Scream Queens ("My Way" S1 EP 7)

Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.

And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast.

Guys, this is the first time we've done like not sitting in the same room and we have to wave from a distance there a little.

I know, I got spoiled see you, guys, but this is going to be very exciting as an adventuress.

We'll be in person again.

We will when we have a guest.

Hey, I have to ask, are you guys having a lot of spiders at your house right now?

So many spiders.

Might have so much everything.

Okay, so it's not just my house.

No, there was an article recently it's an extra crazy spider year this year for la Yeah, maybe all the rain.

I save them all. I put them all in a glass with a little envelope and then and sometimes I have to do two or three at a time and like put it outside. Oh.

I was going to say, save their lives.

I don't deserve it, Spiker, Yeah, I don't save them.

Like for a project later or anything. So David, at the end.

Of the day, did you say an ovelope? You put them in an envelope?

No, I said, I put a glass over it and I slide an envelope or piece of paper. I take them out, but there are so many that I have to do two or three at the time.

There are so many.

Yeah, I'm having the kind of like if I'm the first person out the door in the morning, like I really have to check the door frame so that there's not one dangling right in front my face, like mouth level that I'm going to walk right into it.

Right and there looking like like Georgie wanted. Georgie just came in. She want to say this, sister. But I took him out the other day and they walked through a web and she had a huge spider on her head.

Oh my god.

Yeah, I'm not a fan, but I'm glad it's not just my house because I was literally like this morning, like you know, like clearing the doorways before fighter or everywhere. I'm glad it's yeah, sorry.

It's not just you. I'll find the article and send it to you guys.

Yeah, well, I hope the season passes soon because it's a little disconcerting to walk, yeah, right into them.

It's fun to escape it all though the yard. It's fun to escape it with our Melrose Place with our gig.

Yeah, so I gotta say, so, this is my second time watching this episode because, as you guys know, I watched the wrong episode last week because they switch it on whatever I'm watching it on, they switch these two episodes. It was even better on the second time. I watched it again today, just you refresh.

This is a really solid episode. I totally agree. All the stories were like intriguing and juicy, and the relationships were really full, and I don't know, I really thought it was a solid for everybody, for all the characters, you know, real even.

Yeah, it feels like it's gelling and we're getting very close to when you guys come.

On, very get in there. We're like enjoying it.

Halfway to Dashney. Things get left up, but we're still in this sphace where the episodes are very self contained. The storylines are self contained and sort of wrapped up near the you know, at the end, the storylines come to a little neat conclusion, which is an indication of the early tone of the show. Sure so, yeah, so we're on Melrose Place, episode number seven.

Dix. If you're on Amazon, you're very confused.

To confuse everybody. The title however, is called My Way, And this episode opens on a wide open mouth screaming a horror movie scream, and we pull out to find that we are inside of Sandy's mouth as she's screaming lovely teeth I mean, full commitment, and she is in the middle of an audition for clearly some sort of horror movie where she's required to scream, and there's a bunch of people in room, the casting people and the producers, and it's super awkward for Sandy.

And didn't that bring you back to that when they're just so disinterested, like they really sued it, disinterested working.

It was so painful, and like just like that's how auditions can be, right, I mean absolutely, And.

Then she goes, can I do the next scene? And they're like, oh, we cut that scene. Yeah, I read it. I thought I had a meaty part. No, we got that.

What they really just wanted is to see how good her scream was. And we're going to find out that pretty much, they just wanted her to scream well and to look good because so blonde. Yeah, so, anyway, auditions are humilie. Have you guys ever done a horror movie?

Oh?

Yeah, I started with a horror movie. And I have a little bit of a story if you give me a second. And my first horror film was Paramount, and they flew me to Texas where we shot it. It was called The Initiation. It took place in of course, a sorority horror film. And I remember doing the scene. So I was the lead of it. And I when there was a shower scene, this like communal shower scene. I put on a tube top. I put on like masking tape. I wrapped the towel around it. I pretty much think, I,

Horror film off of Sandy's Scream. We cut to Billy and Allison in the apartment, and Billy is bummed out because he tells Alison the paper has gone out of business. He's now out of a job. He assumes perhaps lack of advertising, and he says, why does the apartment look different. Allison reveals that she's been cleaning the apartment, at which time Billy panics and he thinks, wait, wait, I had something important. Did you throw away a little napkin? And

So yes, and Allison does that terrible thing where you know I remember reading recently, Be careful of people who blame you for a problem they create, like my threw it away, and I'm like, well, you shouldn't have written it so messily, like Alison, sorry, just say you're sorry.

Yeah, Well, he's upset and she's off to work, and so as she leaves, the phone rings and it goes to the answering machine and it is Billy's mother and she's leaving a message saying we're expecting you and Allison and Palm Springs, don't forget it's your father's birthday. We're

And being very sweet, like I have to say, right, like he's been sort of dismissive, but suddenly now that she's pregnant, he's being very sweet and wanting to shape very good care of her, which.

I really so excited and gung ho, Yeah, you're so sweet, so.

Happy and enthusiastic to figure out a little.

Overly, so she's not even showing she just found out she's pregnant and he's moving furniture to fit the cribbon.

I know. It's really cute though.

And she's like, I'm not. I'm not that I can move something. I can help. I can, and but he goes to try to move the dresser and hurts himself. I'm I gotta ask.

He's moving the.

Dresser with his hands on the dresser and with his upper body, and yet he hurts his ankle and he had to rewind it and go back because he hurts his ankle so badly that he flings himself on the bed and she's like, oh, no, oh, no, you know, are you okay? We must go to the hospital. I thought, well, that wow, that serious injury. They're off to the hospital for this, and I had to rewind it and go He didn't even touch.

His he must have missed step off camp angle.

I think, yeah, maybe the take where he hurt his ankle maybe wasn't the take that they used. Maybe yeah, so, but I thought that was pretty funny. He was very hurt and she was very con and so off they go to the hospital to handle this injury. And then we cut back to D and D and Billy is showing up at Allison's work to bring her flowers to apologize.

I have to say I was pretty impressed with Alison on those phones, like that's so good. I'm not a great prop actress, so I was pretty impressed with work in this phone.

It's the apparently you are because you were. I was impressed with the same thing you were answering your.

Talking to him for years you had that were you did you get better at it? Was it awkward for you?

I don't even remember it? So I was like, oh, look at me, prop act I was.

Really, oh, yeah, you like, I'm not as bad as I.

Thought, because because the hard thing is and people might not realize, like nobody's actually talking on the other end of the phone, and you as the actress need to like fake this phone call like somebody's saying something to you in your ear, which they're not. And then also the person across the desk, which is Billy, he's talking to you and he's presenting flowers. There's a lot going on, and you were juggling.

Pushing the right button, all that whole thing.

Yeah, yes, which is why I like to not have any props and just talk to people while I'm sitting down and in this I had a lot going on.

It was a lot, and you sold it girls, great, thank you. We all noticed the very same thing, and this is what we sold it better than Michael sold break in his ankle. Well, it's yeah, but all these things are hard. It's hard to fake an injury too.

It is true, It's so true.

Those are tough things. Screaming is hard and so uh yeah. So Billy is apologizing and he brings her He says, I knew roses were your favorite. However, he's brought carnations and but that's where he pops the question of hey, you want to go to Palm Springs with me for the weekend.

And he does say, they asked me to bring a friend, and you're my friend. But even so, like going away for a weekend, that's a big step.

Yeah, yeah, I love how you guys are again since I wasn't there, but I love seeing how this whole progression of you guys are still friends, you're still on there for just the friends stage. And so he's saying, I told him, you know you're a friend, and you're like, okay, I'll go as a friend. And you know, this is like you can see it all developing and what's going on here, which is cool. It's kind of a it's a very cool sort of setup for drama.

Yeah, it's very sweet, like I can I can see the chemistry already.

It's very so, yeah, you can see where it's headed, and it's you know, obviously Billie's said something to his parents to have them say, oh, bring Alison, and yeah, it's all very cute and we all are here for it. We want to see it happen. So from there we go to Shooters where Sandy is serving beers and Jake wants to hear about the audition and she's like, not

Very excited for and don't you feel like Jake is really turning it on Like that feels like really intense flirting between the two of them.

To me, I get Yeah. I thought there was a lot of juice between them in this episode all the way through, which I liked. I like there, Yeah, we'll see as we go on.

This is the relationship that maybe they're you know, headed towards.

So yeah, I mean I was wondering if it was Grant and Amy making that choice, if it was in the script, like did they choose to play this thing?

So shooters, uh, Jake and Sandy were noticing there's all of a sudden a little flirty vibe with them. Maybe that's, you know, a sign of things to come. But we find out that Sandy's just gotten this job and that.

Was a sweet moment.

Yeah, because Ronda heard it on the voice message.

They remember answering the answering remember signs, Yes, like you couldn't wait to get home to check the answering machine, you.

Know, Yeah, important news would be left on your tape.

Yeah, yeah, and you'd have to go home and wait to see I remember that so clearly.

Yeah, or like if you the call, you know, like it has to be that's the only way to know that you missed the call is somebody has to choose to leave the message. Yes, and so nice that she heard it that way that they left them as a john her machine for it. Then from there, Lily and Alison are driving to Palm Springs and Billy informs her upon arriving that, oh, by the way, it's just going

However, I remember that outfit and I really liked it, and had on the white shorts and that blue and white top which I remember, and the boots. Did you notice like those boots I had on with the shorts and that I remember that outfit had that detail.

Don't you remember how big those were? That like little flower kind of sewn in detail.

They'll applicate thing.

I did the application. Yeah, Oh, those were so big.

I love I remember the boots. I remember just loving that outfit.

Well, you looked a door. Do you remember where you shot it? Did you guys go out to Palm Springs? Probably not somewhere.

In an apartment building in the probably Santa Cia. I was going to say the Valley, but maybe Santa Crita.

Yeah, yeah, because it looked like a little like cul de sac, you know, like complex, right right, you pull a little condo complex. Yeah, yeah, so it could have been lots of places. Probably wasn't. Actually, there's a lot of those here in southern California, like all over there, so many. Yeah, and so Allison's upset because she doesn't want to send the wrong message, like, hey, wait, you know you told me I was just coming as your friend, and I wouldn't have come if it was just us. This

The door open. Yeah, but yeah, that was a brief, little palm spring scene.

Yeah, so that's that's our That's where Alison learns that Billy has told his parents that Alison is his girlfriend, and again she's upset by that. So then we're back in the apartment where Sandy is studying her lines and Ronda's music is too loud for her, so she asks Ronda to leave the apartment. That's annoying for Ronda. Sandy reveals she has eight lines and three screams.

But I did notice that because there's no one there to say to her. There are no small parts, only small actors when they're going to tell her, you don't count your line, Sweetene.

Yeah, and did you notice that by this episode, Sandy's accent is completely gone?

Mm hmm.

And I thought I was paying attention. I thought it was sort of fading. I thought she was sort of fading it out. There's a hint gradually, but by the next episode there's none.

Yeah, I felt like it was pretty pretty not present in this one, which I think makes it just makes it easier. It just felt more comfortable.

I feel like it came back a little when she was with Jake seen later in the courtyard. It kind of comes when she does this, you know, Damsel in distress or this kind of Hollywood stole that thing. She could, yeah, yet into it. But but I didn't even think about it this time watching it. Yeah, I did notice. If we can just go talk about the the the apartment itself,

I'm going to remember her name. She decorated my first house.

Oh that's reallyazing.

Yeah, I was remembering that that first house I had on North Nole, and like Callywood, I bought it because it was up the street from the house rought Andrews shared with his four roommates. And that's how I found. I was driving home from his house one day and I saw this house a quarter of a mile from the house where he lived. And then she did the decorating. To me, she was wonderful. I'm going to look up her name.

As we said, Oh that's great. Did it look like any of the apartments.

Like no, but it really it felt very me so what we're trying. She's really good at seeing a personality and putting it together. Yeah, I loved that house. Yeah, she did a great job.

Very cool. Well, that's the thing about the sets, because they would just have like a one bedroom apartment as like a blank slate, and then they would dress it for whatever scenes they were shooting that day. They would dress it for if it was Ronda's apartment or if it was Matt's apartment, like whoever's apartment was a one bedroom, they would redress. When when Sydney had an apartment, it was not always that space was not always Sydney's. The interior of it r It's just according to what set

Look if you're out in the courtyard and you look at the exterior of all the apartments, all of them are not full apartments like Joe's. When you're on the courtyard and you look up to where I moved into where Ronda and Sandy I believe live now, it's just a facade, that's just a door. There's nothing behind there. So they actually had to borrow another apartment that was fully there, So they did that, and they had to have a good memory of what goes.

Now, So which one were you? Because the first flour apartments were all working apartments and upstairs were all just facades. So when you were in your apartment, which downstairs apartment did you use? Because it might have been because it was right below. Yeah, but yours was full of makes sense.

Yeah, it might have been Jakes. I've never remember going into what was you know, Michael and James and using that as mine. Ever, it was a mind out that was yours. Yeah, okay, of course you okay, we're not going to go too far ahead, but yeah, but interesting it's how they, you know, interchange these spaces that are just sets that it's.

All in the decor, yeah, to make them individual. So yeah, so Sandy's you know, she's trying to study, and she's anxious, and she's asking Ronda to be quieter and actually maybe you could just leave, And she doesn't even want Randa to use her phone because she thinks she won't answer the call waiting soon enough, and she's really anxious about like making sure that she doesn't miss any calls or messages from her new job. Then we go to Palm Springs,

Yeah, and he picture as a literary agent. There's this whole Personnelity's kind of fighting it but almost saying things and then getting interrupted. There's a line where we go outside and I'm so mad at him and I say, you say, I am really going to kill you for this. He was like, you're not thinking kill you? It was so yeah, I am going to rip off you like you.

But what I want to say is you're in trouble with me.

Yeah.

I love that subjects from nature. I love the whole rom com nature of it. This is such a great situation, you know, like, do.

You have a minute we can talk? And you walk in the other room and you're like, come out, Hi, Billy's parents, how are you?

You know?

It's I just love that. This is so not the Melrose we came into Laura.

It's so great it's very cute and Billy Billy is saying that because his dad wanted him to, you know, inherit this furniture business if he wasn't successful as a writer after one year. He really thought that at least by presenting Alison as his girlfriend, that would please his parents enough and maybe distract them from like sort of laying down the gauntlet and saying he needed to come be the furniture store manager.

Well, yeah, and his girlfriend the literary agent is all sorts of then, yeah.

Twisting the truth a little bit. So that's that's Billy's agenda. And so at the dinner table, we learned that Billy's sister, Stephanie, you know, has the sauce thing down that his mom's really good at. But Billy's dad says, well, Billy has the salesman thing according to him.

Yeah, and it's so sweet, right because his dad is coming from a really loving, sweet place, like we share this.

Yeah, And that's where he asked of her professional opinion as a literary agent about what do you think? Yeah, but sir on the spot about that and what is the time frame for his success sort of thing.

In a couple of months.

Allison's really put on the spot. She's like, well, it depends, you know. Poor Billy doesn't feel like it's quite enough of a supportive answer. But Allison was kind of put on the spot. Absolutely, And I feel like outside of our business when he says a couple of years, like that's almost unbelievable. In our business, that's not unbelievable. That would be amazing if it happened.

In a couple of years. Well, you could support yourself with this business. Yeah, But every other industry, I guess moves faster because sometimes it takes forever to get your break.

Yeah, it's really hard. When Jake was talking to Sandy about you know, there's a lot of rejection in that business, it's I just went, oh, boy, is there right? And in a successful career, there's so much rejection you have to deal with. Like, say you get one out of twenty jobs, that's a great average, and you've gotten rejected nineteen times.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, like if you look at anyone's resume and you know them from one or two or maybe three projects, you don't see the other one hundred in there where they had a one liner or a couple of you know, episodes and just didn't get the job or didn't get it, And that's not even counting those A.

Lot of the times when you get really really close and then like you don't get at your heart. So you've already planned what you're going to buy with the money, make the.

Job, planned how your career is going to go.

You're twenty years in the future, like, wait, what this is my first step?

No?

Yeah, she played that well to the vulnerability and the heartbreak of that well.

Back with Sandy, she's getting ready for a Hollywood party she's going to with the people that she's been hired, you know, the producer, the casting person is going to take her out to this party, and she's borrowed address of Ronda's without asking, so Ronda's getting annoyed about, you know, the way Sandy's all of a sudden, you know, prioritizing

Yeah, so sweet, wasn't it?

With balloons and Yeah, bring.

The big hug. It's adorable.

And Sandy's so so distracted about, you know, wanting to make the right impression for this Hollywood producer that she tells them to hide the balloons. Sorry, I don't have time for cake, and I gotta go to this party. And it's sort of disappointing for everybody, especially for Ronda. She's disappointed.

And I will say, the way Amy played it, I really had compassion for her. Like she wasn't being dismissive or braddy. She was just saying, I can't have this right now. I'm trying to make a good impression and this makes me seem needy or whatever her story was. But I felt for her. I thought that, I know Rond is reacting to her getting a big head, but I didn't see that. I thought she played it so vulnerably that I was thinking that Ronda was overreacting.

Yeah, I think I agree. I felt like it was more in the story, in the writing that she was getting a big head and that and this is a crossroads that a lot of us go through when you start to do well in your career and other people aren't. I mean, as we were just saying how hard it is. And we've all had roommates or something when we get a job and you kind of and people will say this to you, like, oh, you're getting a big head or something. I think it's very relatable in our industry,

Maybe it's just trying to get launch it vulnerable.

Yeah, and for her it's a big deal and she really just wants it to go well. And yeah. So back at the Palm Springs drama unfolding, where Billy comes out to the patio to talk to his father and he wants to tell Immy he doesn't really you know, no, if he wants to do this furniture thing, he really

He sless scene number twoss and not just shirtless, in which Alison doesn't seem to notice. I'm like, are you not seeing what we're seeing? Allison?

And I saw that you brought your your very thick robe. That's apparently it was Chilli and Tom Springs. I need a huge Jeffie rope? Did you? Did you notice it?

She says?

Sleeping in the same bed with and for the weekend and whatever with Billy is Allison's worst nightmare. She go, my worst nightmare. I'm like, honey, if that is your worst nightmare, you.

Had a pretty charmed life.

Yeah.

If that's the worst thing that ever happy.

Wait, so what's your best no eyes?

What's wrong with you?

Yeah? And I and the and and the irony was you know, a capture by the director, the wide shot and he's naked and good looking. It's this little bed, this little privacy, and you're like in your robe and like the nightmare.

I mean, it was just this is my worst nightmare.

It was great. Pull it up high to my neck.

I'm lying next from all stiff, it all pulled up hide to my neck.

It or Alison.

Maybe she needs contact. Maybe the storyline we don't know. She really can't see anything.

I think it was just a sign that Courtney the actress was acting her pants off.

Because the camera we were making out like crazy.

For you guys, like he love it totally, So I, yeah, I have to act really incensed by this. And Billy's bummed and tells Alison he's bummed that she didn't really come to his defense at dinner and admits that he really doesn't want to break his dad's heart, but.

Which is so sweet.

Yeah. So then Sandy's coming home from her party. She's coming through the courtyard.

Is she drunk?

Is she just acting drunk? She seems it's I wasn't sure, but she was seemed like she really wanted to exude. I had such a great time, it was amazing.

Confused, I think she was that was playing drunk.

Yeah he actually was coming home drunk.

Yeah, didn't you think that's what she was playing?

Well?

It was confusing. I definitely when she turned to she definitely wanted him to know she had a great Hollywood night, you know, like I'm on my way.

That's what I felt like. She was like talking all that.

Up, right, But I my question was, like, I know she wanted him to think that, and so you could see that she was like really pushing so that he would see that it was great, I had a great time. She was almost throwing it in his face a little bit,

And when she came in, he didn't know he was there, So I don't think she was doing it for him.

Right, He came out after right, But then like once that conversation started, that's why I started going, are you actually drunk or are you like just wanting him to see a certain thing, like wanting to present a certain way.

Anyway, it was a little confusing, but I do think that it's on that point. Throughout this whole script, I was waiting for some more definition with her experience with the Hollywood group, you know, like, I know that there was mixed and probably most of it wasn't good, but you tell yourself it was a great night and he felt really out of it anyway, So I think you're always gonna it wasn't really clear. We actually never saw

Yeah, But then we're back with Alison and Billy, and Alison is watching Billy as he is preparing to go to the furniture store, and Billy still feels like he's owing it to his dad, and you know, says, what would you do if it if it was your dad? And Allison's response is sort of interesting here. She says, well, Verry, I guess we've had different experiences, very crazy.

Yeah, And I didn't realize I know, Lady Allison had a very complicated relationship with her dad. I didn't realize that we knew this at this point. I was like, oh, that's really.

Well, yeah, I mean, you must not have known these details yet as an actor, even like what that story was going to be because.

Right, no, yeah, I wonder if they told me. I wonder if I did know, because that was very loaded the way I.

Would say, definitely loaded.

Yeah, I would say I would guess I don't know, Court, but I would guess not because I think writers, they will draw it an outline for the whole season, you know, but they don't. I don't think we find out about your father and what really went down this even season it's way down in the future, so you know, they're just trying to like hint at things were different, and as writers, my guess is we'll flesh it in later what really happens.

Yeah, it's good writing though, to drop that pebble there. Yeah, right, and you get.

You get you get a sense of like her in her life and how she's you know, sort of witnessing what Billy's choices are and just how she can't sort of understand his choices based on her own experience, that it's just been very, very different from her.

Yeah, and why she feels alone in it, like why when she couldn't make the rent, she didn't call her parents, like she feels alone in the world for some reason.

So we're learning, we're learning about both of them through this storyline. And then we're at the furniture store where Billy is trying to sell a couple on a sofa and he's suggesting the floral Chintz and he's got a giant blazer on with huge shoulders and he marches off to go pull down this fabric and his dad is watching him and he thinks Billy's doing great, and Billy just feels uncomfortable selling the couple on any of it.

He's like, but he's saying, chintz and pine. Do you remember chintz and pine?

Absolutely?

I had so much of that. Do you remember on Venice Boulevard there were all those stories sold this pine furniture. I had so much of it that was that time.

Yeah, shabby chic and all that light pine.

Yeah.

I actually French.

She was French country, an Irish country. Yes, I had that. The fabric store that they were shooting in it looked Did it look like an actual fabric store to you guys or a set furniture store like furniture store, yeah, right, because it had all the walls of fabric. Did you think it was like, I wonder where that was. At first, I was thinking of Calico Corners. Do you remember that place? No, that's right, I think that's just so. It was maybe just like a sofa you love or something.

You wouldn't know the cal for all these years, Laura, I.

Remember the names of stores for sure, you know them all so so then that then he's he's uncomfortable. Billy's uncomfortable with it, and he's talking to his dad, and his dad is defending it. And here's where he said. His Billy's father says to him, there's nothing wrong with being a furniture salesman. That isn't wrong with being anyone else. And I had to rewind that one again and go play that back. What did he just say? Yeah, let me repeat it for you. There's nothing wrong with being

Yeah, he just says it twice.

He does words to live by it.

It was tough. I mean, I think I think just as an actor, even like memorizing that line would be hard, like, but yeah, it did. It was sort of a head tilting.

He probably came in and said, can I reword this, and we're.

Like, oh, no, you can't, No, no, you can't do that here, No say it like, say it just the way it's written.

You know, a lot of things make sense on paper that never makes sense coming out of somebody's mouth. That's a big kind of like a big thing about this about this industry that you know, we all know because we have to sell something that looked great on paper, and sometimes it just doesn't work coming out of somebody's mouth, doesn't.

I one time I had an audition and I didn't get the job partly because I said this line and started laughing, and it was I'm not cannon fodder in your fight with your father? Oh And I just said and I just still laughing. I was like, can't you fight with your fadder? And there was a writer director and he was like, and you're done here.

And imagine how many people he fired that day.

You think he would hear it and go, yes, I need to change that. I think he blamed me. It's like, that's not on me.

It's very different in writing and actually saying it. Yeah, I loud, it can be, yes, ye can be.

So.

Then Jane and Michael we find them in their apartment where Michael is attempting to cook for Jane and he's got one foot in the air and he's standing at the stove, doesn't want any help from Jane. Must to do it all. Don't you hurt yourself, don't you strain yourself? And then he ends up dropping the pan, hiding himself on fire, and Keane is like what She pulls the sink host she douses him and he's sopping wet and he goes full Jerry Lewis and crumples on the floor.

Yeah, that and that was quite a stunt, and throw it in the sink, throw it in the sink, holding it up, and she spray She sprays him.

The whole kitchen everything.

He goes like the camera, did you notice the camera?

The water is right on the camera. The cut right away from it exactly, They cut back to the pyrotechnics. I'm like, this was a whole stunt, afternoon, you could tell it took the stunt.

A lot happened to just say, here's what we want to say is that Michael is trying to do something nice for Dana and really lights himself and the whole place on.

Fire, and he's trying to make her the super healthy veggie dish, and she says she just wants a quarter pounder.

Yeah, yes, surprised he didn't run after her. No, you can't put that in your body.

We're growing the child.

So but luckily they put the fire out and all's well. That ends well and.

Jies go to get a quarter pounder, which was great, good for her.

Yep, but you're noticing in this, you're noticing screen script wise, Michael's trying too hard. Everything. He's just you know, with the with he breaks his he twists his ankle, moving the furniture, he's over eager with the cooking. He's just trying so hard.

He's been a total from two episodes ago where he's like, no, I don't want a kid. I'm not ready for a kid. Now he doesn't even want to see her, and like, you know, So then Billy is coming home and he he actually has to repeat the line to Alison there's nothing wrong with being a furniture salesman. That isn't isn't

That's still going on.

That takes things that would come in the mail.

I don't know, but I remember my mom was so convinced that she had actually won. That would just so not like her. But I just really feel good that we Like, she brought a TV to our vacation house, which didn't have a TV, because she just this is the year anyway, sadly did not. Yeah, but didn't you kind of every time you open it you thought, why not me?

It's an exciting possibility?

Sure, yeah, big check seepstakes?

Does that you come knocking on the door, Yes, with this giant check. So then we're back with Rhonda and Sandy and they are fighting and Sandy says, fine, you know, I'll just move out. I'm you know, whatever, This isn't working anyway, and and Ronda's upset. She's like, I just feel like everybody's, you know, fed up with you.

Sandy.

You're blowing off your friends and and you know you're you're just getting a big head. And this is where it all comes to they're fighting about it, and Sandy says, well, you know, I just think everyone's jealous and you're not supportive because I'm making my dreams happen, and you know, just because you don't have anything going on, you know, And didn't you cringe? And she said talking about it, I was like, Oh, that's so sixth grade.

Everyone's talking about how horrible you are.

It's like, oh yeah, and it was, and both of their both their cringing.

Yeah yeah, And I loved how I loved that before that blow up though, them rehearsing the the lines and the way that Ronda.

Is running them so disinterested.

Yeah yeah. And then like Sandy's like it doesn't say that, she goes, oh, I guess I got carried away. They did her.

Own edit toil rolling her eyes.

Yeah. I mean it's really it's really, uh the struggle of the actor.

Partner.

You have to like make all this stuff real in your mind, and you're surrounded by people who don't get it, and they like do really bad line readings. But she's trying to help Ron, just trying to be supportive.

Except she is sort of trying to real issue. She's helping to run her lines but it's also an opportunity to tell her what she really thinks, like really yeah, and then sure enough ends in a fight that that leaves Sandy saying, fine, I'm moving out. I've wanted to

This way or yeah, And this scene brought me right back one of my first movie. I was seventeen years old and I was in Tahoe, and the storyline was I was seventeen and I was playing against this guy who was in his late thirties. The script. We did sleep together in the script, and I wore his one of his button down shirts afterwards, and I got to set that day. I'm in Tahoe and I got to set that date and there's this really sexy negligee in my room. Again I'm seventeen, and I went to the

And I am, well, yeah, I had.

Enough of a somehow, And I think it's because I was so supported Alisa Adler. God bless, I'm still with that agency today. They so had my back. They didn't say just do it, they said hold on. They came to support me, And I feel reading this, I feel so grateful that I had that kind of support because the pressure they put on me. It was a young young woman and I'm so grateful. And they were furious, and there was and I ended up wearing his button down shirt and.

I scripped it.

Grateful because they just trapped me. I walked into my room and there was this really sexy lingerie.

So coordinated, how did they wait while they drive up to Tahoe or did it happen? Did you put a poda on us Stapen.

Like that's what I'm thinking, like it must have. First of all, they said, don't do anything. You're not comfortable with my agent right, one hundred percent on my side, and they either backed down, but I remember they were really annoyed with me and I and the crew. But I will say this, it lied about the crew. Every single member of the crew came up and he said, good for you, good for you. They were so cruise are amazing, as you guys know right, Cruise are amazing.

Yeah, and they.

Really had my back. But I know I just got the connection right. Why I was so annoyed when Ronda said, everybody's annoyed with you, because that's what happened to me on that set. The crew thinks you being a baby. Yeah, and it wasn't true. And thank god they had my back. So good support is so hugely important because they tried to brushure me into doing it. And here's part of

I had an experience like that too. I had wasn't in the script, and I had a We were out of the country and the director came in into my trailer and tried to convince me to shoot a nude and uh, I was like no. And I had a big agency, but I felt very trapped because this is way back when there were no cell phones. You're in a trailer in another country and there's this big producer

We consciously did because.

I felt like it was, you know, like to try to it was.

I didn't like it.

It seemed it seemed like the saying this is not just a male thing, this is a Hollywood thing, but it's saying this was a female director asked a girl.

Was yeah, because I've never been pressured by a female director, and it's certainly never been a woman of color. I mean, that's just not who does it well.

No, But there was something recently on that show The Affair and that extraordinary Actreacy start on that she she had problems with the female user, who she said was writing gratuitous sex scenes. And there were a ton of gratuitous in you like they would. She'd be having a conversation scene, she's talking, we don't need to see her breasts, so it does happen. I think they were rarely. I agree with Laura that they were trying to say, it's

By by Hollywood and the and the demands of Hollywood.

By Hollywood, I think it was a really conscious choice to make her be a woman. But I agree with you, it's more rare, right, I think it's more rare. I think for the most part, female directors are much more conscious of being respectful of women.

Yeah, I feel like I felt like it was a cheap shot. I didn't interesting because here's a woman, an Asian actress who how many offers does she get anyway? And then she plays like the bad guy director who talks tries to talk a young actress and to taken off our top. So I just thought it was.

Sneaky.

I just didn't like it. And this writer is a woman, you know, Darren co write it. Co wrote it maybe or oversaw it, but it was a woman ton Tony Graff, who does outlineder. She's done a ton of stuff. But I noticed that. I don't know, I just didn't know where that direction came from or that casting.

But interesting, Yeah, it is interesting.

So and you know, Sandy at the time didn't have any support. She had to make the decision in the moment right are you here?

Are you?

Interview out? It's basically what the director asks her and she has to make a choice. And so we see her begin the scene and she's obviously doing it with a lot of trepidation and she's you know, not happy, but she has she.

Goes through with it.

She feels really pressured. She didn't want to lose a job.

Well, we don't know if she cut through with it, because they cut the scene right.

Well, you see that, you see the knife right then the scene like opening up the thing and the director encouraging her to go ahead and let the tears, go ahead and cry and then it kindly want to see her as a victim.

Yeah, Well, based on her reaction after though, you assumed she went through with it, because.

She's well no, she I mean, okay, we haven't gotten there yet, But she didn't go through with it.

We know that she didn't me not keeping up okay, but what she.

Tells Jake, So she didn't go through with it.

But at any rate, you think she's did at this but she you know, she she was willing to do the next take, and because we do see her do that, she was willing to go, Okay, I'm going to try. And so she goes to do the next take and she's going through the wood. She does the scream, and then the guy comes and does cut the top. But I don't really see what happens after that.

Yeah, I don't see if she went like that or whatever exactly.

So, but then the next morning, she's upset. She's packing her things to move out, and Ronda says to her, you know, she sort of apologizes and she didn't mean that, Sandy, didn't. You know, she didn't need to leave right away. And Sandy says, that's okay. I've got this great guest house waiting for me, and you know, somebody from this movie I've got. She's sort of telling lies about how great her opportunities are and she's going to move into the

She's bounced. Man, she's she's had her Hollywood moment. I mean, this is a real down. This happens to so many realities and yeah, in different ways to actors too.

A lot of people quit after something like this. Exactly doing this again, exactly so true.

So yeah. So back at the furniture store, there is a lady bouncing on a couch and tagonizing Billy for the pricing at the store, and Billy is annoyed. He finally just sort of loses his patience with the lady and offends her a little bit. And his dad has witnessed this and he has to come over and try to fix it and apologize to the lady.

And and the lady is Liz Sheridan, who played Beld's mom, which oh so much fun to see her so crazy.

Right, yes, yep, And that scene just opens it.

She's yeah funny in this She's funny and everything.

Yeah, it's awesome. And Billy's dad says, how are you ever going to the discipline to last one week at this job and apologizes and said that working here was just a bad idea and he leaves. Billy leaves. So then Jake catches Sandy as she's leaving the building in the courtyard. She's got all her stuff and he misinterprets her leaving is like sort of leaving everyone in the dust. He's like, you're just leaving everyone in the dust, and he's angry with her, and Sandy's like, no, that's you.

But she just said I couldn't go through with it. That's where she says I couldn't go through with it, and he goes, well, what's wrong with that? That's great, and she's like, I know, but that's but that's when she says, I exploit myself every day and I don't know who I am and maybe that's why I'm an actor. I just want to start over. It's funny because the business and the acting itself gets into your head and messes with you. Who am I? You know? Who am

And can I do this here? Like is this even possible to be myself and to be you know, true to myself? And is this all it's ever going to be? But she says, you know, she thinks maybe she needs new friends and a new life and that's why she's leaving. And so Jake is angry and says, if you know, if you think you can just walk out of here

Did he say what movie?

The Beautiful and the Damned?

No, no, no, he said, you know this is because that was my favorite line. He said, you know who's in movie theaters during the day The beautyful?

Okay, So I thought, oh, all right, yeah, I'm a.

Great movie title though it is Young.

New Bile Women.

Why is that not Billy's next movie? You know, I used to go to matinees all the time.

I love matinees.

I never saw I noticed maybe I was one of those young new boths.

But like coming out of the movie theater in the day, like when it's still light outside sort of disorienting. It's been dark inside and you come out and you're like.

Especially in La there are so many creative people who don't work all the time, so a lot of people are out during the day, right, And.

There are a lot of theaters here. I used to go to like the you know, the art houses, the little indies, and I would see like double features sometimes because you know, yeah, and of course you'd check your phone in between.

Just in case, check your answering machine, and so yeah, Allison says, you know, I knew that wasn't right for you, and and Billy's like, well, why didn't Why didn't you tell me that in the first place, And she's like, what, I don't think I did.

But anyway, she says, and I thought this was really good boundaries. She basically said, it's not for me to tell you what to do. Yeah, were you seeking out co codependin Anada's meetings? Like that's a pretty good that's a really good message, which is, you know, it's your life. You get to live your life.

And he sort of knew it too, like he just wasn't being honest with himself about it.

But he had to learn it in himself right, And even if she'd said he would have been, it would have been a fight, like, yeah, we have to learn our own lesson. That is a truism.

As I said before, I'm trying to see all the writing aspects of this, and so that scene to me was like the first time someone he says, why didn't you say? And you say, what am I the all wise person? Like so she is, but she supports him and like, you know, you know, you don't have to do it, and then we're going to see you know, this starts the tie up, the tie you know, the neatly tiedbos where someone bestows some wisdom on the other

Yeah, so that one, that one's pretty well wrapped up. And then Jane is back at the apartment and now she is cooking for Mumble, who's on the couch recovering his foot is up and he's telling Jane.

He's not really very hungry.

Don't make very much food. I'm not really hungry and he reveals that he's having some anxiety over having this baby. What if he doesn't know what to say to him, what if he doesn't know who he is? And Jane is awfully sweet and saying, you're going to be great, You're going to be a great dad, and so they're sort of coming to terms with their little struggles.

And then he says to her, it's such a sweet moment. He says, how are you so wise? And she says, I have to be I'm going to be someone's mom. And the way she delivered it, I just want oh, it was so sweet. She's so good at those moments. I was just like, oh, that was beautifully delivered.

And again there's that word, the wise thing. I love that. I love that now that I'm thinking about it, like these are as you've always said, Court, like young people trying to make it, give it a go, Like what do they know? It's mostly you fall into potholes and you're freaking out. But there is wisdom in them, you know. We saw it with the with the Billy and the Alison just now, and now we see it with Jane

Yeah, what lessons can we learn from this? And there's always a good lesson.

Yeah, there's always support and the wisdom comes from the supporting each other and being there for each other.

Speaking of which sand Ln Sandy comes back to the apartment and asks Ronda if she will take her back. They both apologize for their fight, and they decide to celebrate by eating their celebration cake that had come the night that they were trying to congratulate Sandy. Sandy apologizes again, saying I am an unbalanced personality, aren't I?

But again, she doesn't seem super imbalanced. She handled it pretty well, actually.

Yeah yeah, And then Ronda says, yeah, but we balance each other out. But they're back to being roommates and friends again. And then Billy needs to resolve his stuff with his dad. He goes back to his dad's office late at night and the store is closed and his

Yeah, very sweet, very sweet, seeing very sweet. And I think this is a real universal theme, don't you, about parents wanting really letting their child be who they are. I hear stories of, like, you know, a person trying to live up to at least for a while til they get older, maybe, but trying to live up to their parents' expectations, or like their parents just want them to be safe. Holly wants them to be safe and secure, you know. And it's so scary to be a writer,

Well, and it works so well for him, right, His father, Billy's father's father, gave it to him and he thought, well, this is great. I have this thing to give you. I remember my dad. My dad had a market research and consulting company for the computer industry. And before he sold it, he said, and I was a working actor, like I was in my thirties, and he said, do

But I had that.

I was the oh what a sweet moment, Like what if I was an actor? But I dreamed of working in the market research community. Right, Maybe that was my secret?

Could have been Yeah, you couldn't And.

Reminds me, I realized I have my own story. My dad was a professor and he said, I dropped out of UCLA just do my first that horror film I told you about where I was going to go and start it. I was a junior and I had uh and my father said to me years later, I was working with Lucille Ball mel Brooks, like on my way getting paid, I think maybe maybe about my first house, like, and he said, don't you want to go back and get your degree?

Don't you want to go finish your degree and get just so you're a graduate of college.

And I tried twice just to please him, thinking like what am I going to do with these extra you know, what am I going to do with that degree? But he just wanted me to be safe and I never got it. And then one of the directors I was working with with the Lucille Ball movie was the dean of the School of Arts at UCLA for a year. Can't you ask him for an honorary degree? And I

I do think like as parents, we all want something for our children, and it's not always what they want for themselves or like, you know, I think even when I was deciding to be an actor, I think it was my mom's probably worst nightmare, like what you know, like just such a such an unstable and unknown thing to do, like no guarantees at all anything that was sort of horrifying because I had I had left Iowa and moved out to California and you know, sort of

And I had a friend of mine who said to me he was a producer, and he said, there are no failures, just quitters. So whenever I had down times or I wasn't working and I was worrying about stuff, it was like I just had these things in my mind, like I just can't quit period, you know, And I have to have be tenacious, I have to have that persistence, just keep on going. And it's true, it's true always. I think you know so well.

And we talked about at the beginning, like the amount of rejection in this business, Like you have to want to do it so badly that you can't be talked

To do it.

Yeah, it's just hard. A lot of rejection more than anything and you have to want to be able to fight through that and want to do it.

And I feel like you have to want to do it because you love the doing of it, Like I always tell I've always told younger people like you have to want to do it, whether it's on a local community stage or geeing it, or it's summer stock or and then if the break comes and you get to do it on Broadway or in front of a camera, awesome.

Yeah, And I think that is the story that Billy and his dad are having. You know. His dad is like, yes, just this great reliable thing, this furniture store. And so actually that our last scene, Allison is in the courtyard, she's grilling, and Billy comes home and says, you know, I told my dad and it went really well, and thank you for the encouragement. And I'm telling him the truth. This is my truth. Yes, right, a writing career going to be hard, But I didn't want the furniture business.

But oh, actually, she asks him, did I tell him about the truth about us?

Yeah?

Did you clear up the bit about like I'm not your girlfriend? He's like, oh, yeah, no about that. No,

And she leaves. She goes in and he's She's like, what's the phone number? I'm telling them now? And he's like no, and he follows her, and you hear it. I love it. The camera pulls out cue you just hear them so super cute number. What's the you know, very funny? Yeah, give me the phone, give me the number, Give me the phone, give me the number. And you know those two are going to get together any deal.

Well, we can only hope And yeah, so that's that. That's episode number seven. That's a rep on another Still the Place recap. We're halfway to Daphne, we're turning the core.

With then a third of the way to Laura and.

On the way to it becoming a totally different show. We're only a.

Few episodes away from Sweeps, which is where like the first order of thirteen episodes, right if we're on seven now, around twelve and thirteen, they were hitting those episodes around Sweeps week and trying to get like really good ratings for this section of time and also to find out if they were going to get picked up for their back nine order.

Yeah, and what I see, Like we talked about this episode gelling in the last one, like it's kind of so nice that we were under the radar for so long, we were getting to know each other because then we really were friends when it took off. That's really lucky, right, if it had taken off right away, might have fractured.

But at this point you must not have been so sure because the ratings weren't great, and you know you're approaching that.

Rattings weren't great and getting towards.

Us, Yeah, getting towards the end of thirteen. You don't know if you have any more episodes after that. It might just end up thirteen, unless all righty, we'll pick you up, so tune in next week. I'm still the place to find out, all right, See you next week.