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Mondays are Still a B*tch!

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Episode description

On July 8th, 1992 apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same once “Melrose Place” was introduced to the world.

It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level.

We are reliving every hookup, every scandal, every back stab, blackmail, explosion and every wig removal... together!

Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you. 

Sydney, Alison and Jo are back together on Still The Place, with a trip down memory lane to Melrose Place. 

Mondays are STILL a B*tch!!

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Transcript

Speaker 1

Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.

Speaker 2

And Daphne's Ania and iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 3

Oh my gosh, we'll find me here. It's so exciting.

Speaker 4

Let's see the pearls. Guys. We have like thirty years of memories.

Speaker 1

Hey, do we do an official intro?

Speaker 3

It's it's a podcast called Still the Place, Still.

Speaker 1

The Place, Melo's Place for rewatch podcasts.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and Melro's Place was the show that where we all met.

Speaker 1

In the early By the way, I'm Courtney thorn Smith.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, I'm Laura Layton and I'm Daphne's Anigay.

Speaker 4

I like, I'm interviewing you. You're such a cute couple. Thank you.

Speaker 1

We're very happy to get us from my.

Speaker 4

Therapist a therapist, you too, on the couch.

Speaker 2

Actually, after Melroe's Place, I went into therapy.

Speaker 1

If this was couple's therapy, this would not be good. Yeah, you're happy.

Speaker 3

Was ready?

Speaker 1

We want to get you close too, couldn't possibly.

Speaker 3

It's where our friendship began and where we all met. And it's thirty two years later.

Speaker 1

Almost exactly thirty two years because I did the math and we started shooting May eleventh of nineteen ninety two, so it's almost exactly thirty two years. And the weird thing is we all look exactly the same, Isn't that weirdess?

Speaker 3

Because it's a podcast.

Speaker 1

The weirdess.

Speaker 4

She just thank God for filters.

Speaker 1

Can we have filters? I'd like a few filters in life. So so excited to be doing this with you guys, So excited to just get the time to hang out with you guys and talk about the show. I've been thinking about all my Melrose memories and so many things have been coming to my mind. Do you remember this came to me today, made me laugh out loud. Do you remember how Jack Wagner, Now remember Heather Locklear was the biggest star in the world at the time. How

Jack Wagner always remembered he couldn't remember her name. Pretend he couldn't remember his name, and you would call her Helen. Where's Helen? Is Helen here?

Speaker 3

Do you remember that we laugh out loud this morning that that sounds exactly like Jack. Yeah, totally, but he but Thomas actually did that to me on purpose, really yeah, like not kidding. I mean, I thought it was unpurposed, like he could never remember my actual name, so you just called me by my character names, and I'm finding there were a lot of us when I yeah, like what I think when I'm thinking about Melrose and like going back into my memory of it and stuff, I

don't think of you guys as your character names. I think of your names. I'm like, oh, well, remember when Courtney had that scene? You know, it's like Courtney had that scene instead of like remember when Alison did this. Like I can't quite remember the character's names and connect the.

Speaker 4

People because so much time's gone by.

Speaker 2

But back in the day when you know, I know, the crew even had like our names, I think, but it was like the names and the character like our real name because because it was a.

Speaker 3

Lot Yeah, so wait, we haven't even said that. So like Daphne, you played.

Speaker 2

Joe, Joe, Daphney, I played Joe, right, Joebeth Reynolds, I.

Speaker 1

Remember you coming on. I remember you coming on because you were very cool, and you like came from the movies and you were very cool, and edge were all kind of nervous, and it's like you came in and you were really cool, and we're all kind of nervous that you were there.

Speaker 3

Wait, and you're Courtney and you played.

Speaker 1

I'm Courtney, I played Alison Craker, I'm o rost Place.

Speaker 3

And I'm Laura Layton and I played Sydney, Andrews, Mancini and a bunch of other last names. And now did you Andrews.

Speaker 1

But Laura, when you came on, you didn't start as a regular, right, that was expanded. You come in as I'm already remembering. Josie's character name, Josie was Jane.

Speaker 3

Yeah, see, it was hard guys, and I'm gonna refer it was Jose half the time instead of Jane. I'm going to refer to her as Jane. Josie's gonna see. I think like the nostalgia factor of it being all the way back in the nineties, it just seems like that was such a different time and place, Like my kids even will say weird stuff like I wish I lived in the nineties. I'm like, why, what is it about the nineties that is appealing to you?

Speaker 1

Like you remember because we grew up in the eighties thinking about the sixties and how long ago that was. The nineties are longer for them ago ago. Yeah, I know there's a way to say that better, but I don't know where it is, yeah, right, like that was only twenty years This is thirty years ago.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but for us, for me anyway, it doesn't feel that far at all. And yet watching the show or remembering specifically things about the nineties.

Speaker 4

I mean, we look so different.

Speaker 2

Everything was colorful, and the hair was high and coming out of the eighties, which was all you know, day glow and massive amounts of hairspray. Right, But how I feel is like it was a couple of literally just you know, maybe ten years ago.

Speaker 3

Yeah, maybe a decade now.

Speaker 1

Because fashion has changed, it doesn't look that weird. Like I checked out in episodes several years ago, it looked insane. And then getting ready for this, I've looked at some episodes the fashion holds up, like my first outfit, which I don't remember at all in real time, but I was looking at I thought, oh, I would wear that today. I had a fitted jacket much like the one I have on now, but it was bright red and a black dress.

Speaker 3

Because circled back the boxy jacket.

Speaker 1

Many years I thought I would die if my son saw this, right, I have a sixteen year old son. He came in last night. I was watching an episode, and I had on, of course a sheet mask, as I do, because you guys know I'm obsessed with skincare. They had on a sheet mask. You woe, doesn't even blink anymore? He comes in? How often am I in a I saw in a blanket with my led mask on? So last night was getch a sheet mask, didn't even blink. Shat down and watched for a second.

Speaker 4

I thought, it.

Speaker 1

Doesn't look that weird, except that my hair was big and I looked kind of different. But the clothes were right on point. It was almost the same stuff.

Speaker 4

You mean, it's coming back around.

Speaker 3

It has come back around.

Speaker 1

It insane for twenty years.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and now it's back.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I would wear I probably was wearing exactly what I was wearing on the.

Speaker 2

Show, maybe a little different. Those are some pretty high shoulder pads.

Speaker 1

But apparently shoulder pads are coming back. Remember the shoulder pads that we put in our clothes that were what was that fabric and then they'd fall down and all of a sudden you'd have an extra breast because your shoulder, like if it was falling.

Speaker 2

Out pads or like places in your shoulders where they would fit in and you know, like Denise, our wardrobe God would like come and.

Speaker 4

You know, just fit it in.

Speaker 2

So you fit to this square jacket as opposed to like getting something that fit you, you know that was like shape to you. And I mean I relied so much on those shoulder pads. I thought, you know, now I feel together and like you feel too slopey without a shoulder pad.

Speaker 3

Do you know, do you guys have any wardrobe items or anything that you took from the show, anything that you can.

Speaker 1

I don't know. I did take from there. There was like a maroon and cream skirt that fit me like a and I thought I'll wear this forever, but then it was maroon and cream.

Speaker 3

So never found the occasion for maroon and cream.

Speaker 1

It didn't come back, but I did for a long time. I still have my melrose Place hat. And I remember when when melrose Place was really hot, and Andrew Shoe and I were dating, so it felt like there was a lot of attention on us. And I went to see member Missy and John. Yeah, so, and we went to see them for dinner and we were going we were going out, The four of us were going out to Universal Studios. When Universal Studios opened and we were really trying to hide.

Speaker 3

That brave because I can't imagine that was.

Speaker 1

It was brave, but you know, you can put on a baseball hat. It wasn't like now with social media you could kind of put it on a baseball hat and go out under the radar. And we showed up at their door and they both had on Melro's Place baseball hats.

Speaker 4

Doesn't mean so much for subtle they didn't wear it. Doesn't that defeat the purpose.

Speaker 1

But remember that hat, it was black. I still have that. I should have wearn that today and it had the Melrose Place hot. I still had that. I wear it all the time, so I don't have to explain who I I don't Clarious.

Speaker 3

Do you feel like it was that you were able to go out under the radar? Like when do you think that changed in like over the course of the show, Like when did that because I remember it being sort of a shocking thing to be, oh my gosh, we can't go anywhere without being recognized from the show.

Speaker 2

I remember the game when I really well, one of the times it really dawned on me was when you were with Grant.

Speaker 4

So whatever season that was, I was, we were writing Harley's to Latline.

Speaker 2

At the time, I had my own little I wrote a couple of times on the back of Grant's Harley, and then I was like, uh, I want my own, So I went and got my own.

Speaker 4

I took the lessons and everything you were on the back of Grants. But I'm not that I aways ever dated Grant.

Speaker 2

But anyway, anyway, we go to Laughlin and there was just all of these motorcycle writers and you know, it was.

Speaker 4

Laughlin, Nevada.

Speaker 2

So we crossed the state line and there were these escalators and it was just a mob. And I just remember you and Grant and like everyone these Harley Davidson like to mix it there and they're like, oh my god, wait, they're following it, you know, And I just thought, wow, this is like one of those scenes where there's a mass and the escalator and just this massive people recognizing you.

Speaker 4

I thought, that's it.

Speaker 1

We're stuck on the three of you rode motorcycles to Laughlin, Nevada. Oh, I'm trying not to focus on I wasn't invited. Whatever, we'll get over it. We'll talk about that.

Speaker 4

And a whole motorcycle gang on the show.

Speaker 2

Really really with us, fascinated like our teamster and Greg.

Speaker 4

I think Lacava came. Who else? Oh, there were a couple others from the crew.

Speaker 1

That is so cool. You know what else encouraged me last night was you dated Grant in real life, but all three of us dated him on the show, So we have all kissed Grant show.

Speaker 4

Thank you? Everybody?

Speaker 1

Did everybody dated everybody on the show?

Speaker 4

I don't know. Well, let's what, let's wait, we're gonna have.

Speaker 3

That.

Speaker 4

I watched the pilot.

Speaker 1

I didn't remember any of it, Like I vaguely remembered my audition scene, but I was like.

Speaker 4

That, what what?

Speaker 3

What?

Speaker 1

It's so crazy how much I've forgotten? Remember when we did We did a reunion show in New York on the twenty fifth anniversary, and they were showing us scenes from Melwer's Place, you remember it, and Doug and I upped. At some point we were all.

Speaker 4

Wait, what happened?

Speaker 1

How do I remember a scene? Yeah, Doug and I were kidnapped. And the other thing that made me laugh is so as you know, Doug was one of the first gay characters on on Timetime Network TV, and he felt like they didn't use him enough. Because they didn't really know what to do with a gay character. They weren't really ready.

Speaker 4

Ironic Star created and was our showrunner.

Speaker 1

Yeah, different time though, so it's really well he was allowed to write.

Speaker 4

Yes, he was just talk about exactly.

Speaker 1

You can really see what a different time it is, right, how far we've come in that area. But he came and he had a sign. He made himself a sign and it said, Hi, I'm Matt. I played Doug because he hadn't been there it so long.

Speaker 3

I don't remember that, but it doesn't surprise maybe left so hard. Yeah, but like how the perspective that our show at the time was it just like did you anticipate it becoming this giant hit? I mean it was like a juggernaut.

Speaker 1

Well it wasn't a hit at first. Let me tell you, ladies who weren't there in the very beginning, sit down, sit on many Let's tell you a story. So in the beginning, it was a spin off of nine O two and note they expected great things. We were sold

for thirteen. I remember doing the opening credits scene on Melrose and Grant was sort of recognizable because he'd already been on nine O two and O. But nice kids and a soap opera and just insanely handsome obviously, right, like watching those chos, like how do I even talk to Grant? Insanely handsome? And we were we were we There were all these expectations. It was so much press and then nothing happened. It was like eight nice kids

trying to make it. And then Heather came on as a bitch, right, that was the that was the poster, Monday's our bitch, and all of a sudden we had someone to play against. And then Thomas's character, Michael Mancini, turned bad. Was that when you came on? Yes, that's when you came on. Yeah, so we had you and we had Michael, and we had Heather, and that's when it we were I imagine, I don't know the inner workings.

I think we came very close to getting canceled, and then all of this new energy came in and we weren't just nice kids trying to make it. There was all this conflict and drama and then, as you guys know, the.

Speaker 4

Drama just took off.

Speaker 3

Yeah. I was just gonna say, I want to give you some perspective because you were saying nobody watched it right right the premiere, I'm going to give you it statistic which I have to be accurate.

Speaker 1

I am so impressed.

Speaker 3

I believe this to be accurate. The Melrose Place premiere episode had sixteen million viewers.

Speaker 1

But at the time, yes, what were the top shows getting? Like now, that was an insane so.

Speaker 3

Right, So I guess I'm gonna have to get back to you with that. I'm going to have to get.

Speaker 1

Myself or get your people on that.

Speaker 3

By comparison, I will let's compare to for example, today the series finale of Breaking Bad, right, I mean giant current cultural phenomenon, cultural phenomenon. Series finale of Breaking Bad was ten point three million. Melrose premiered sixteen million, and when it was in the height, there was nineteen million viewers for like, for say the season two finale of Melrose So nineteen million.

Speaker 1

That's unheard of today we're watching it.

Speaker 3

But also the way they had to watch it was at the same time, like we had to. They had to make an appointment. Go oh, I have to watch on Wednesday night or I will miss it. So sixteen million people watch that premiere on the same night, or we Divo didn't come INUNTI late could record not hard.

Speaker 1

You could record it.

Speaker 4

Like a VHS.

Speaker 3

Everybody had a VHS and if they're like if they weren't going to be stones riding the bike, and you'd have the recording and if you were going to miss it on that Wednesday night, you may have to make sure, oh I forgot to set my VCR. Remember that, and then they miss it, and then they wouldn't get that moment of being able to talk about it the next day around the water cooler.

Speaker 4

Like that was a thing, I think.

Speaker 2

But to your point, it premiered like that because people had been watching nine O two and zero right, and it was like the same vibe is really cool la vibe but older people in their twenties now. But it leads into that because Darren told me so, I live with Darren Starr, the creator of this show, in college, and he said, you know, it's a show when he called me about coming out to this one.

Speaker 4

It's a show.

Speaker 2

About you know, kids after college and they're trying to make it on their own. And sure enough, you see in the pilot and through the first however many shows, that's what it was like, like, how do you pay the rent?

Speaker 4

And can I keep my job? And da da da, these things.

Speaker 2

That that earrow wasn't covered, that you had thirty something and you had nine or two to zero and you didn't but you didn't have this the twenties, you know, you didn't have that on TV and how and because that's what he remembers experiencing and that's what so I think he really want to do like a thirty something but in the twenties and then and then so it started big, but that didn't last at first. So I

came in halfway through the first seasons. I think I has been told episode fifteen, there's gonna be a lot of you talk and Courtney for the first fifteen.

Speaker 3

A lot of questions recording til we get that court yeah, what happened behind the scenes.

Speaker 1

Then oh, you'll have opinions. I know, both of you.

Speaker 2

And the thing that these filmmakers did is that you go with where the juice is and when they made Michael a villain because he was kind of an asshole anyway, and then he just went and then boom it. Then it started to pick up and then they brought in Heather and I came in there somewhere around there but I wasn't a bad girl.

Speaker 4

I was and then they brought it and have Ben just went with it and made her the ultimate bitch.

Speaker 2

And then you guys had all that, you know, and then you went crazy and all that.

Speaker 4

But what I love is, oh, I thought they were hoping.

Speaker 2

They were hoping it was going to be a hit for one reason, and that didn't fly, and they just pivoted and it became bigger than they imagined.

Speaker 1

I think.

Speaker 2

So I just think that's a cool story because it's real, and I think that that's really valuable to know in life.

Speaker 4

Anyway.

Speaker 3

I love that we get to watch it again and in real time, sort of as it was meant to be, you know, as it was is this one went first, and here's how it was in the beginning and the evolution of it. We get to rewatch that and see that evolution again and sort of compare it to how we remember it versus how it's going to feel watching it the second time, and you're.

Speaker 1

Going to be surprised how little you remember. Like I remember, I remember, oh, I remember shooting the pilot, I remember how we Deutsche directed it, I remember the people, but watching the scenes, I don't remember any of them. It was watching it and knew it was fascinating. And as you were saying about people having to watch it on that day, like what people? I still people talking about Melo's Place more than anything I've ever done. I've worked a longer. I did a lot of things after Melo's

Place because it was a time in their lives. That's why I love our title still the Place. Because I was at my son's friend's house and his dad was telling me. His dad's this big heart, the big back surgeon, and he was telling me how in college he and his friends watched Meloe's Place and he wrote an article for their paper, like an update on Melroe's Place, like this guy he was a black surgeon. He was like blogging,

but actually on paper. It's a time. People remember it as they were in college, they got together with their friends. How many times in a week do people stop you and say, I lived on Meloe's Place. I lived in an apartment building with a pool.

Speaker 4

Yep, right, well it used to be like that, I think people.

Speaker 2

I think to your point, it was it felt like a time and we need it now, you know, like just ape and a time that you remember that time that life was I don't know, simpler, or you connected more in real life, or you went next door for advice to your neighbors if you lived in that apartment.

Speaker 4

And I just feel like people you know, talked about that experience.

Speaker 2

Of being an apartment building a lot and then talking about the show at the water cooler, you know.

Speaker 1

Well, and getting together to watch it. People got together watch it every Yeah, Like now we're all in our own little world on our own devices watching shows Now. I watch things sometimes concurrently with friends and we're texting while we're watching it. That's why Game of Thrones was exciting because people wanted to watch that in real time. Yeah, it's so rare. But Melrose was that and if you didn't watch it the next day and people were talking

about it, it was a bonding experience. You don't get that as often.

Speaker 3

Now, And I think that's what makes it different from like what watching shows are now, is like that experience of I remember where I was when I watched it and who I watched it with.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and that day I binged six or eight yep, like that episode and the next day, Yeah.

Speaker 4

Well you could all be like do you can you believe that this happened. Can you believe that? And what was she wearing anyway? The belt around the vest. I'm going to look into that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3

The water cooler conversation, that was the real thing. People actually had a time that watched it, and the next table was a big conversation about it. And it's just different now with being able to stream and watch whatever you want whenever you want, you don't have that water

cooler moment. And so I feel like our podcast is like we're doing it again, where our conversation after watching it is our water cooler conversation is like we just watched episode one and we get to have the water cooler conversation, but it.

Speaker 1

All over again that way that's horrible.

Speaker 3

And we get to do it one episode at a time. I can't I can't wait to see it unfold. And I'm not gonna like I'm not going to binge ahead. I'm going to do it in time, like when we're doing our episodes of the podcast. I mean, just watch that episode. I just want to have that experience.

Speaker 1

I don't think I could watch more than one. It's kind of overwhelming, right, Like it was such a time and place in my life, and like I said, I don't remember for any of it, so I'm watching it anew. But I think one at a time is perfect, and I love that way of thinking about it, of like as fans watching the show again because there's enough distance. Although I will say, like I want to say, there's enough distance that I can watch myself. It's still hard,

but I was watching. When I did watch the pilots we're gonna talk about it, I was like, oh my god, my legs. I would kill for those legs today. And I thought I was so hard on myself about my body right.

Speaker 3

Exactly, like we.

Speaker 1

Never know. It is so heartbreaking now to look back at that young woman. I don't do that to myself anymore. I'm not mean to myself about my body, my more, thank you God. But I was looking at myself, going, I wish i'd known how adorable I was, right, like you never know at that time. So I think this will be healing too, to like connect to that younger version of ourselves. Yeah, and just be really sweet and generous to those young women we.

Speaker 3

Were and for all the young women out there.

Speaker 4

There's so much to talk about.

Speaker 2

Where I'm talking about the capturing the essence of an entire decade. And then but I wasn't there from the very beginning. You said, you remember when I came on. I remember coming on. You know, this is eight years after doing movies, and things were movies lasted longer, and also like you're with a certain group of people and then it's over. And then for me, like right before I came on, there wasn't a lot going on, and I was like.

Speaker 4

What do I do in between?

Speaker 3

I was really frustrated.

Speaker 4

I just love to work and act.

Speaker 2

And I remember walking with my manager at the time, Brian Metavoy, were walking somewhere in Westwood and I'm like, I just want to act.

Speaker 4

What's going on?

Speaker 2

And I had done some India where I played a This is after some studio movies that I did.

Speaker 4

I was playing a serial killer.

Speaker 2

And then that when I was like, please help me with like, you know something I want to play and he's like, daf don't you worry. In this business things turn on a dime. And that week I got a call from Darren Star, who I said we were friends, and he's like, hey, dafh, I know you don't do TV, but you know I'm doing this show. It's called Melro's Place and da da da, he described it, and I just thought it was a big decision to go do TV after film because we're very separate then.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, it was so separate then.

Speaker 2

But my gut was like, you get to act every day, you know, so for as long as this last, you just get to act, and you know you're going to meet all these people.

Speaker 4

And so when I came in, I.

Speaker 2

Was so excited, also nervous because you guys had been doing it for like fifteen episodes already and you had.

Speaker 4

It down, but I wasn't there from the beginning. So that's my coming into it.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 1

So did you audition at all?

Speaker 4

No?

Speaker 3

I didn't, Lucky.

Speaker 4

Those are the actually sorry, I'm sorry only for Aaron Spolling. I think I did because I remember being in Aaron's office and yeah, Darren was there with me, and he wrote a scene for Joe.

Speaker 2

He's like, I'm introducing this new character, so she's from New York blah blah blah, and he had written something for me. So I just went in and did it and and I had a great time with with Aaron Spelling and.

Speaker 4

Duke was in there, Duke Vincent was in there, and we were in Aaron's spelling. Oh yeah, so anyway it was.

Speaker 2

And then uh yeah, then I was going to start right away. I also anyway, I'm just saying this because I wanted to like give a lead into where it because we all came from different places, different experiences.

Speaker 4

You were there from the beginning, you had done.

Speaker 3

I want to hear all about that, Like what that Alura.

Speaker 4

You were kind of just starting.

Speaker 1

I'm just well, I had been I had been auditioning. I was doing like TV and movies, and at that time, like I said, it was really separate, not like now where movie stars are doing limited TV and TV. It's all sort of one big pile now, right, it's all It's very different to the time. It was very separate, and I was getting very close to movies down to the final two, down to the final three, and not getting it. And it was always like there was a

bigger name. There was a bigger name. And I had been auditioning at with Aaron and Aaron Spelling for this doctor show. It was called Partners, and it was one of those where you go back every day every day and you're paired up, and you're paired up one of those grinds right every day, every and I didn't get it, and I was like, I'm out, I'm done. And at the end of the final audition, Aaron said, we're gonna work with you kid, like old Hollywood, and I sort

of rolled my eyes like yeah, whatever. And I woke up the next day and I opened my front door and there was a stack of scripts from Airli like something up from Spelling. There was a stack of scripts.

Speaker 3

Remember when they delivered actual scripts.

Speaker 1

They delivered actual scripts. You'd go open in the morning every pages and and my agent and I were talking about it was like, well, there's this thing. It's a spinoff of nine er two and one. And he said, look, it will probably get your name out there, and then you'll have more opportunity, Like even if it only goes like thirteen episodes, it'll get your name out there, and then you'll have a name and it'll give you more

power to get other things. And I went in and it was as opposed to the Partner Show, which had been a grind and a grind. It was one of those things where it's just you walk through the open door, right like this podcast has felt like that, Like it's just we had the idea and then it was just walked through the open doors. It was really easy when things are meant to be, and that was one of those things. I just went from audition to audition to audition.

Speaker 3

You're in Did you have like chemistry reads or any of that stuff, like when you were testing and did you test?

Speaker 1

I tested? Actually before Andrew got cast, there was a really wonderful Canadian actor named Stephen Fanning and we tested together and he was amazing. And then as happens, you know, we've all we'll talk about this when we get to the pilot, but you know, I don't know anyone who hasn't get fired. Have you been fired? Yes, I've been fired. Have you been fired?

Speaker 4

Wow?

Speaker 1

Wow, we have to talk to you about something. This was uncomfortable to do in high school.

Speaker 3

I worked.

Speaker 4

I believe I was.

Speaker 1

Fired, but it just for whatever reason, they didn't think it worked on the day. And then I'll tell that Andrew audition story when we do the pilot. It's a crazy story. And it was just sort of like, Okay, this is where I'm supposed to be, like not banging on George closed, George closed, George Closure. Then all of a sudden, you make a turn and there it was. And it was so weird because I don't think there

are people like Aaron Spelling anymore. He had that beautiful, huge office and smoked cigars and literally, we're gonna work together. Yeah yeah right, And he remember he'd hug you and he was so thin because he picked all those cigars, remember, and then and he meant it like I thought, oh my god, he meant it that stuff. I don't think that happens anymore. So that was my story. Laura Old.

Speaker 3

Oh, Well, I I had not worked as an actress, but Melrose was my first job. So I was in nineteen ninety two. Well, I had done like a couple of commercials and stuff like that, but literally this was my first job. And so and the audition came to me. It was a two episode guest star, which I thought, well, that's a lot, Like it's not just a it's not just a HW may I help you, like I'm your server role and that's I just get the one line.

I got two whole episodes where there was a storyline and a whole character, and I had to like figure out how to flash that character out. And I really, you know, like, oh my god, this is huge to get two episodes as my first job was huge and not just a hi, how are you so? Yeah. So my audition process was a series of auditions just to like I had to start. And at the time, our casting director said, you know, you might be right for this guest star playing the younger sister of Josie Bizzett

on this new show called Melrose Place. You might be right for the younger sister, but you have to pre read because I can't bring you to producers if you can't, you know, like pull it off or whatever. I'm like, sure, I'll do that, okay, you know, so we I pre prepared my material and I auditioned for him, and he's like, all right, yeah you could, you could maybe pull this off.

I'll bring you to the next sort of level, the next And so you go from that to reading in front of the producers and then they might ask you back again for another read with producers. And so I sort of went through the process that way and they kept going okay, yeah, yeah, maybe you know okay, And I was up against when it came down to deciding if I was going to get the role. It was me and another actress who had far more experience, because

everybody had farmed time. And so they brought us, the two of us to Aaron Spelling's giant office suites on Welsh Boulevard to have him make the decision. And so we did. We were in that same giant suite of offices and we both read and and I sort of found out right after that I had right after that I had won the role. And one of my things was that I had worn a leather jacket as the character is like, yeah, this is you know, this is

how I think she would be and whatever. And I had worn this leather jacket and mister Spelling had said, I like the jacket, keep the jacket.

Speaker 5

Sidney wears the jacket.

Speaker 3

So I ended up wearing my leather jacket, I believe in my first appearance on the show. And yeah, and I'm like, my my big insecurity at the time, besides not knowing what the heck I was doing as an actress at all, was I looked up Josie and I was like, oh my god, she's beautiful and she's younger than I am, and I'm supposed to be her younger sister.

Speaker 5

Nobody's gonna buy it.

Speaker 3

Nobody's gonna believe me. Nobody's gonna believe that we're related because she's so pretty, and I can't. Nobody's gonna believe that we're sister. Like, I was so concerned that I had to make sure that I came off as younger.

Speaker 4

Than she was.

Speaker 3

And I didn't know that, and then just like so worried that, like I wouldn't nobody would buy it. Well, you know, Josie's beautiful and blonde, and here's this like quirky little redhead, right like could they be sisters? But I was so concerned that Sidney come off as young enough so that people would believe Sidney was younger than Jane, even though Laura is older than Josie. Said that terrified, well done.

Speaker 1

It never even occurred to me if you asked me, I would even of course you're younger. And when we were talking about this podcast where you watched the first episode, all of us were in and I remember thinking, you guys absolutely look like sisters, and it didn't even occur to me they weren't younger because of that energy you brought, were not And the jacket to.

Speaker 3

Make sure this character is young, like find all the ways to make her young.

Speaker 4

Yeah they did.

Speaker 3

They don't called me out and fire me.

Speaker 1

Well, good thing about Josie too. And I know we're not talking about the pilot yet, but I can't help myself. She was timeless, like, first of all, insanely beautiful obviously, but like her haircut, her clothes, like her choices. I remember that she understood fashion more than I did to the nth degree. But I'm looking at him like, well even then, like she had a handle on it. She was a model a maturity, her haircut play still like she is timeless.

Speaker 4

I know.

Speaker 3

So one of the things I think we've failed to mention is that I ended up marrying one of our co stars, right, so you got around I just like I feel like that was It's such a funny thing, like to go back and this was this moment in our lives where we were just doing a television show, Like you don't expect to go oh at the end of it, the rest of my life is going to be, you know, sort of defined by the people that I

met at that time. But for me it really is because like now I have kids, who go, Oh my gosh, my parents met doing this television show. And you know, it's just such a different I never would have thought it going in of course, and then now I can't think of it any other way either. But it's been really fun because he was there in the beginning like you, so I have the benefit of hearing about beginning in

those first episodes before my character arrived. I have the benefit of hearing about it from his point of view as well. And I love so. My husband is Doug Savant, and he played Matt Fielding. He was the gay character on Melrose, and his perspective on the beginning where you were Courtney, but his perspective on the beginning. But also he had such a unique experience playing the gay character at that time when television shows in the nineties weren't

really portraying that. You know, what we're doing now is far greater and far better than what he was able to do then, and so it's just been great to see it through his eyes.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and two things. First of all, it's so great that he played that character because he's such an ethical good man, and I remember them trying to ask him what his sexuality was and it's like, I'm not even addressing that that's not important. We're talking about a character and this is important. He really, he was such the perfect strong He has such a good character, and it would he was such a great person to play that character.

Speaker 4

Well, I can't. Yeah.

Speaker 1

But also, it's not just that you guys met there, it's that you're still married, right Like I dated Andrew, you dated Grant? Did you date anyone in our little Melrose.

Speaker 3

Place where she's not telling.

Speaker 1

Oh my goodness, well we have a lot of I just got married from ago, so that.

Speaker 5

So cute.

Speaker 1

But that you guys met, got married and are still married.

Speaker 3

I guess it's exceptional in Hollywood anymore.

Speaker 1

It's exceptional anywhere, right, Like it's exceptional anywhere. That's so sweet.

Speaker 3

Well, and I you know, I can't wait till we have guests on and we will have our other cast casts and they will get to speak on their experiences too, and bring their memories and share, and we'll be able to have those conversations. I can't like that will be part of our podcasts. We'll get to have all our old castmates come back, and you know, like you mentioned Doug speaking about his experience you really have to hear it from his point of view because he's so eloquent

about that. So I can't wait.

Speaker 1

So one of the funniest people in the world can't wait to spend an hour with him.

Speaker 3

Well, I can't wait to see all our old friends when they come back.

Speaker 5

That will be just a blast.

Speaker 2

I started in nineteen eighty three, so whatever year we are now, and I look back and I've done another series after this for even more years, but this one, because it was that time in my life, really felt like family on the set, you know, and just the crew, and like we said, doing things on the weekends, like motorcycles or whatever.

Speaker 4

I don't know.

Speaker 2

I remember going to Target and getting earthquake supplies with Heather or self help books or whatever. I just remember like a real feeling because of that time and the age that I was of it, ing secure. I loved going to work every day, driving out to Santa Clarita, having that stability.

Speaker 4

You know. So that's what this show felt like.

Speaker 2

Like. I left college to start acting, so this felt like my four years of college or something like that. It just felt really really good, and we were starting to do things, you know, outside of shooting when we had time, we worked a lot.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I love I love that you say that, actually, because part of it was that we were in Santa Clarita, so we were it's almost like going a way to college, right, we were far away. I was remembering when you guys came on, We're we're still going to Ree Calendars for lunch. Absolutely right, we had an hour for lunch. We had an hour and we would all go to Marie Calendars and sit together in Clora remembered. Do you remember that

between scenes? And this doesn't happen a lot, we would all hang out in the office, like we would hang out and talk, and I like you and Doug. You may not have gotten together, but one of the times you connected was at a party at my house. Like we actually hung out outside of work. And you're right, we were all that age. I was twenty four when I started Moro's Place, so we really were all that age having that experience.

Speaker 3

And I think those years are such formative years, were like becoming who we're going to be as adults, but we're not there. We're children in our early twenties, and so we were all having this shared experience in really formative years of our lives, and so it's impossible for that not to have sort of informed the rest of our lives. And then to be able to go back and watch these episodes now is such a special privilege. Most people don't have film of those years of themselves.

And so, like you were saying, you look at that young girl, and you say, oh, why didn't I appreciate, Like why didn't I just give myself a break? And like look at my cute little young self. You know, it's like for for us to be able to go back and look at ourselves at that age and at that time of our lives. And it really was, like you said, daff like our family at that time television and had that way of because you have to go

back every week and every day. It's not like a film where you're like done, and but it was our family and it was definitely unforgettable time in all of our lives. And the fact that we all still admire and adore each other and I we're so lucky to get this opportunity to come back together and just like go back.

Speaker 1

And play together.

Speaker 3

Yeah, go back down memory land together. Yeah, how funny.

Speaker 1

The other thing that was different about it is that because it wasn't as huge success when it started. We're all kind of I remember and this may be a before you guys were on it, but we went to some maybe Magic Mountain, because we shot right next to Magic Mountain for like a fan thing, and it was nobody like it was just the guest. There were people like who are you? What show were you? Like, nobody knew.

We were like Caesar one for someone nobody knew. Wo we were so uncomfortable and we got to have that ride together too, right. We all went from relative unknowns. You had a career before and granted in the soap opera, but for the moment part where will it dove unknowns and we had that journey together like as it took off, we got to do that together too. So we went through a lot together. We all went from unknowns to recognizable actors in the span of a year or two.

Speaker 2

And and our off screen lives were intertwined clearly by you two, who dated all the good looking stars on.

Speaker 1

I dated Andrew pretty early on.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, And it.

Speaker 3

Was a weird thing to sort of juggle that, you know, becoming not just like a private person but like all of a sudden there was a public sort of entitlement to your life. You know, that was just a weird thing to juggle. I think it is for any in any decade. It's a weird thing to come to terms with, like when you go from being unknown to all of a sudden people. I remember like the first time on a red carpet when photographers were like calling my name to get me to turn my head and look at

their camera. And I was like, wow, do they know my name?

Speaker 1

Why?

Speaker 3

What that is so weird? How do they know my name? That was bizarre, Like you don't know me? Why are you calling me by my name? I mean I understood if they maybe knew me as a character, but like my name, it just struck me as like ye, So it was like it was really disconcerting, and it's like I can't remember who was with me. Good because you're on a television.

Speaker 4

Like a carpet.

Speaker 3

But to me, it was like it was so confusing and disconcerting and it took a while to get used to, like it wasn't you know, it's a weird thing. And then yeah, but that's that's what we all experienced together.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and it was so different then like I think now the volume has been turned up so much. Like I remember, like Andrew and I could we couldn't live a normal life like we both lived in like Hollywood. We could go to the store, we could lunch, we go, we could go to movies like it was pretty normal. And we were on a red carpet. They would try to I remember being offended that they were trying to take our picture together on the red carpet, which is

we're at a red carpet event. But we had a sense of privacy that I don't think recognizable people do today. I think it would have been I'm really happy to not be famous like that today because I think it's so much more intense, so much more to see.

Speaker 3

Considering Yeah, exactly, I'm so glad that when we did it, we did it in the nineties.

Speaker 4

Yes, we have.

Speaker 3

So many stories and so much to talk about, and I cannot wait to do this every week with you. We get to have our old cast members come back. I imagine that over time we might take fans questions and be able to respond to that, which I think is really cool because obviously the fans it's what it's you know what it's all about and why we're back here again.

Speaker 2

So I would love to hear what the fans say, what the questions they have, because I think the fun is revisiting everybody's youth, you know, like everyone who's listening. That's why I would want to listen to this, you know, to go back and watch it. But then also through that I get to relive my youth. So I'm I'd love to hear the fans.

Speaker 3

And some people might be finding it and watching it for the first time, which I think is sort of a fun perspective too, that the old fans can come to it and they might have memories of where they were when and with whom and while they watched. But other people, We welcome everybody to come and watch the show for the.

Speaker 4

First time, and you can watch it now stream it yep. Stream.

Speaker 1

We actually had a friend, does it not apropos of anything? Who said we were looking for a new show to watch. We decided we're going to watch Molo's Place. I was like, well, your timing is impeccable.

Speaker 5

Yeah, that will.

Speaker 3

Be watching it with you, yes, and we can meet around the water cooler to talk about it the next day.

Speaker 1

Water can't be so excited to

Speaker 3

Still the place,

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