Welcome back to State-Sponsored Conspiracy Podcast. Thanks so much for being here. Audience, thanks so much for being here. Co-host, whose codename for today will be... I'm doing the movie thing where I'm just looking at things in my room. You will be Green Candle today. All right, and you will be Red Easter Island Head. Red Moai. I'm glad you have that in your room. This is going to be a different sort of episode. We're recording from home today. Our bunker
is getting fumigated. And by fumigated, I think that actually means investigated by the FBI, which I thought we were homies with. But I don't know, apparently after that Wendy's incident, they're looking into me. Which I tried... What I tried to explain to the audience last episode was that just because you started the fight and you, you know, you caused the fight and you did it, doesn't mean that you're legally responsible. I was testing a legal theory that I had thought up
against the advice of my lawyer who I think is a rube. I thought if I could enter the Wendy's bathroom, right, invoke squadders rights, and then once the employees tried to remove me, I could invoke castle doctrine and defend myself against, you know, them entering my home, which I had been squatting in for 30 seconds. It didn't really work out that well. But, you know, we got government lawyers. So it's fine, I guess. I mean, a lot of our listeners are probably,
they're not that... Not really that well educated. So they don't know that, you know, people do these things to test the legal system and to put forward new cases. They thought that there was some sort of brawl at Wendy's for no reason. I'm wonder how Sir Est, my wages are being garnished. It's all good though. I feel fine. I won most of the fights. So. And for this reason, it's a different sort of episode. In case you're unaware, this is the only conspiracy podcast that is funded by the
US government. NPR has some podcasts that are funded by the government. This is the only conspiracy one. And part of our job, part of what we do working for the federal government that I haven't brought up before is that we are in charge of coming up with fake conspiracies that we then put out to the public to distract from real things. I don't even know if I'm supposed to be telling you this, but you know, you guys have been great fans and great listeners. So I'm letting you in on
a little bit of a secret that that's part of our job. That's part of what the government does. And so I thought we would have our usual sort of brainstorming session and we would just record it and put it out as an episode. They haven't actually accepted any of our ideas yet, but I feel like this time, something's in the air. This time, it's different. Yeah, usually I'm at the table with the CIA and there they I get I get laughs. I get weird looks. People make fun of my
PowerPoint slides, but I think I have some real heat this time. I'm ready for starters. This is, I think this might be the best one. So recently there's been a lot of conspiracies about Taylor Swift and how she's working for Joe Biden and the Super Bowl was rigged and all that stuff. That's one of the CIA's. They just make garbage. What the hell? That was theirs. It's not even that good.
Yeah. And then I was sort of thinking I was like, you know, you have the duality of music with Taylor Swift and you have, you know, Kanye, he's more of the conspiracy theorist than he is the conspiracy theory. Let's get him on. And then I thought, you know, the other sort of big artist who just released something is Beyonce. And so I thought a good Beyonce conspiracy to spread would be that she never really left Destiny's child. Who run the world? It's Destiny's child.
I think do you think people would believe that? Do you like people get into that? That she never left Destiny's child. Well, what happened to the other members? Do you think she consumed them? They're pulling the strings. Oh, okay. You know, forgive my language here. She's actually the slave to the other Destiny's children. Yeah. And it's sort of like, it's like manifest Destiny. What does that accomplish for us for the United States? How does that benefit us?
Well, the point is that people will get real into these conspiracies and they'll be distracted from what's actually going on. Well, you know, you don't think that's going to cause some beef with, you know, the government and the black illuminati, which is a real conspiracy, by the way, which Beyonce is, you know, near the top of. So I feel like maybe that might cause some like a rift there. I mean, it's possible. I have a lot of other ideas. I know I said this was the best
one, but it's I have so many ideas. It's whatever. Like if one doesn't work, you know, if they laugh, if they laugh this out of the meeting, I have so many other good ideas. They can just rapid fire it to them. You know, they'll pick it up if they like it. Doesn't matter. Yeah. I think our strategy going into the meeting is if it doesn't work, it never mattered, and I didn't care. But if it does work, I always knew it would work, and I was hyped all along.
We get paid by quantity, not quality. That's not even the only good celebrity conspiracy I have. I came up with go for it. Obviously, there's a lot of like this celebrity is actually still alive conspiracies. Here's an easy one. Juice world is still alive. And that's how he still puts out a song once a week. Boom. Does he do that? Yeah. There's a juice world song like at least once a month. Okay. Here's a big one. What if we use juice world still being alive? What if he's not actually
still alive? What if he's what if he's a ghost? And this is how we let's see, you think we can get the CIA in on slowly revealing the existence of ghosts to the world? You think that would be a good style by using juice. That would be as a catalyst. That's how we break it to the general population. Juice world is the first celebrity ghost. He is basically the ghost in the machine from Ghost in the Shell. He can't be used to hack into everything like Ghost in the Shell, but he can appear
on any track in hip hop. And so he can sort of ruin any track he wants from beyond the grave. That's a pretty good tower. I wonder what celebrity the CIA is going to roll out when they drop aliens on everyone. Who would be good for that? Probably Gaga. Just because she's kind of weird. She comes out in a crazy alien themed outfit. Well, she does like jazz now. Her era is coming on for weird stuff. Right. Gwen Stefani maybe. Gwen, so that's even older.
Are you 45 hitting me with these ideas? Gwen Stefani. I don't know, man. BTS. That's a good one. What about Grimes? She has a very alien look. Isn't she more normie now or is she gotten weirder? No, she's gotten way weirder. What if, what if, well, I think people kind of hate Grimes. So if Grimes came out and told everyone about aliens, people might get pissed. So they need a weird celebrity that people like.
Kanye. Just a nice, uncontroversial celebrity. Good idea. The other person I think we could say is still alive as a good fake conspiracy would be XXX tantacion. And we just say he had a huge growth spurt and is now unrecognizable. But he's still alive walking around Florida. And throwing some blurry pictures, people would totally believe it. What if we fold him into the ghost
thing? Let's say juice, which one died first? Juice Roller X? Could not tell you. All right. Well, whichever one died first, let's just say that they brought the other one back from the afterlife and made them a ghost as well. Let's just say they have the ability to do that. That's all I got from music conspiracies. Nothing like, you know, playing records backwards and saying go to hell, the devil is real. That's all the people that's been done. Yeah, but what if we, what if we,
conspiracies have come and gone? What if we revive it and say that that actually is it's real? I feel like the media being secretly satanic is the conspiracy that never went away. I feel like people are very much still on that. Are we satanic? We're the media. We are the mainstream media. If you guys could see our how many views we're getting, this is basically like NPR. We're bigger than most NPR shows. If you play all of our episodes backwards, it reveals a secret message from Satan himself.
Now, the other media, this is the media conspiracy related to this. What if we told people that national treasure was real? But then they made the sequel and the sequel is fake and they made it more outlandish to throw people off. If you people would buy that, people could get into that. I'm not sure if I'll be able to give you good feedback on this one because I only saw the second one and I had it on my on my PSP at the time on a little UMD disc and then that got stolen,
that got stolen halfway through me watching it. So I've only seen the first half of national treasure two. I think that is the optimal way to have viewed national treasure two. Is a national treasure one a more believable story? Is that supposed to be a documentary or how would you describe it? The national treasure one is way more grounded. What's it about? It's basically... You don't know how did you not see the first one? I skipped it. Did they not release this on the
PSP tiny discs? Yeah, when I got my PSP, national treasure two was popping. So I went for that one. I remember this is this is only slightly related. I bought a PSP for my friend in middle school and then proceeded to only ever buy one game for it and it was like a Tom Clancy
like first version to your game and it was like really terrible. Anyway, my point is I think we could get people to think national treasure is real and that there is stuff in the secrets of the Declaration of Dependence and then the second one where they go to France, that's like a decoy. I could see people getting into this. I mean, is the plot of national treasure really that much
more outlandish than QAnon? No, not really. Could we also make sure that we implicate Nick Cage in this conspiracy by making sure he knows some more government secrets and that if you really want to know more, you have to harass and pester him for it. Yes. Make him the QAnon of national treasure. I think that if we approached Nick Liss Cage and said, would you like to be part of a sci-op, he would say yes, absolutely. So you know how they say that you're supposed to eat
before you go to the grocery store? No. Well, they say that. So what if the reason Bill Gates bought all that farmland wasn't because he's doing something nefarious, but just because he was really hungry when he was like shopping for things to buy. And so instead of buying like an African mining facility or something, he was just like, I think I'm going to buy like most of North Dakota. Well, the CIA's conspiracy. They did the Bill Gates farmland one. So I don't know if we can
pitch them a counter conspiracy of that. I think I could compliment that. He was just like, oh, I could eat a whole loaf of bread right now, but because he was Bill Gates when he was feeling like that, he just bought North Dakota. Okay. So you're saying if we make a counter conspiracy to that conspiracy, then it'll throw it in doubt. And so either people will believe one or the other.
They won't even consider that there's a third real explanation. Yeah. I want the end goal of this whole operation is for the average person to just be totally baffled by what's going on in society. All right. Maybe the CIA would buy that. Yeah. I think that one has potential. The other, the other real like CIA related one that I had in mind was, what if we kind of started
sending out a conspiracy that MK Ultra was real, but that it was like totally chill. And that they were just like hippies like dropping acid and like making cool art and like hanging out. Well, isn't that the truth though? No, I mean, that one guy like they threw that one guy out of the window. I mean, I was just like an accident. That's that's kind of what this this would sort of play into that like that dude like tripped when he was like partying with his tie tied around his
forehead like a headband. Okay. So this is kind of just like equittering the air saying what really happened straight up, but putting it in the form of a conspiracy. Yeah. And people, because like people people want to people want to get into something like juicy, then this like secret that they think you don't think MK Ultra is kind of stale. I don't think that sounds very juicy. Well, the thing is like MK Ultra makes us look really bad. So this is kind of like a positive spin on
things. I mean, in that case, let's go let's go more positive. Let's say MK Ultra was like, I don't know, maybe we could tie it into into some Disney world conspiracies. Are there the only Disney conspiracy I'm aware of because when I was a kid, there was a kid in my class who was like obsessed with Disney and he was a child. So this was like the appropriate time
to be obsessed with this. I know exactly who you're talking about. I know you do. And he told me that there are like thousands and thousands of cats that live at Disneyland and they come out at night and they like keep them there to eat all the rats and stuff. That's like a that's something I haven't thought about in like 15 years. How do we tie that into MK Ultra? I don't know, but I thought
I'm just throwing that out there. That's something. We shouldn't be digging up both conspiracies. We need fresh meat. We need some real thinking outside the bun. Well, it's funny you say that because the while I was trying to come up with fresh conspiracies, I accidentally came up with one that is already an existing conspiracy because I thought like what if we started to get some like secret black presidents going like, oh, what if George Washington was actually black? What if Abraham
Lincoln was black? Then I learned that there is actually a conspiracy that says that Abraham Lincoln was secretly black. Have you heard of this? Oh, I heard a different conspiracy that like, I don't know who was it. Taft or Cleveland, I heard like one of them was black. I think there's a book called, let me look it up. It was called the, I think it was called the Five Secret Black presidents. Five of them? Yeah, yeah. There was this historian and he claims that there was Abraham
Lincoln and four others. I remember one was Thomas Jefferson. I'll have to look at the other ones work because it's pretty funny and could be its own episode really. But the Lincoln is black conspiracy has been around for a while and I looked into it a little bit and it started pretty much when Abraham Lincoln ran for president. There were like political flyers and stuff that called him Abraham Afrocanis the first. So they were accusing him of being black?
Yes, but they weren't just being racist. There were people who legitimately thought that he was black. And it sort of came because southerners obviously were very worried about what would happen if Abe won and became the president despite the fact that he was actually considered a moderate for his time because he wanted to limit slavery, not abolish slavery when he was running. That was his like initial stance. But even so, there was a famous secessionist who said that in 10 years
or less our children will be the slaves of Negroes. And that obviously did not end up happening. He thought it was going to get flipped somehow. Yeah, he was like if this black guy Abraham Lincoln becomes president, we're going to be the new slaves. How will he do it? Nobody knows. But I assure you it'll happen. Yeah, so that's like the level of paranoia and propaganda that was going on. And so obviously in modern times, he's being suspected of being black for completely
different reasons by completely different people. Yeah, now it's like now there's people who are trying to claim him as black for positive reasons like, oh man, this sick guy was actually black. And basically pretty much the whole the argument basically, well like no like legit historian takes this very seriously, but there are people who do claim that he was black. And it kind of boils down to two things like one, like his appearance and then two his sort of somewhat unknown backstory.
So he did, you can kind of see it in pictures of him, but he had something of a dark complexion you might say. And he he was said to have had very coarse black hair. And his dad was apparently said to be sort of a swar the looking fellow to do not like work outside or something. I mean, maybe he spent too much time working outside and he was getting a little too tan. Yeah, I think that's just like what a farmer or something would look like back in the golden days.
Yeah, but I mean, at the time this combined combined with not being as racist as the other white people, this was enough to cast some serious suspicion. Lincoln, say the end word now or else. Say it or else you're black secretly. I don't I don't know about that. I don't want to say the end word. He was I'm sure he did say it. Yeah, but it probably sounded funny because it was high pitched voice. Oh, that's right. He had like a weird voice, didn't he? Yeah, he sounded like Dorn Peterson.
Nathaniel Hawthorn, the author of the Scarlet Letter and other very boring things I had to read in school. This is another this isn't this is I didn't anticipate this, but this is like the third like school related side note here. I had to read a lot of stuff from this guy and I learned that books about like like 19th century New England are very boring. Well, yeah, there's nothing over there. There's just fog and secrets secrets. Family secrets. But like I had this English teacher who was
just really pumped on 19th century New England. And if you're an English teacher and there's not like a super strict curriculum, you can basically just suck all of your students into your like magical realm and be like, this is what books are. Books are about like families in 19th century New England. But anyway, Nathaniel Hawthorn said this of Lincoln. Lincoln's hair was black, still unmixed with gray.
Stiff, somewhat bushy and had apparently been acquainted with neither brush nor comb. His complexion is dark and shallow. He has thick black eyebrows and an impending brow. His nose is large and the lines about his mouth are strongly defined. So he had a weird face for a white guy. Got it. I think I think I yeah Nathaniel Hawthorn did not think he was black. But I think this this is sort of the description that got people thinking, I bet this guy is black secretly. It sounded like he was
describing an afro. Yeah. And then there the other sort of the other interesting thing that has got sort of like actual modern people thinking is things that were written by William Herndon, who was Abraham Lincoln's personal friend, law partner and biographer. He said this. There was something about his origin he never cared to dwell upon. Mr. Lincoln usually had but little to say of himself, the lives of his parents or the history of the family before their removal to
Indiana. If he mentioned the subject at all, it was with great reluctance and significant reserve. I've never heard about this. Does Lincoln actually just have a mysterious pass? Nobody goes? He has a little bit mysterious. Yeah. Who were his parents? I mean probably just probably random white people. Mean random black people. And then JL scripts who is a reporter for the Chicago Tribune. That's a writer's name for sure. I know what a great old-time reporter name.
JL scripts. Yeah. I'm glad we had the exact same idea at the same time. That's just what JL scripts would sound like. He wrote Lincoln communicated some facts to me concerning his ancestry, which he did not wish to have published then and which I have never spoken of or alluded to before. So this like mysteriousness is what got people saying, I bet he was black. Wait, so what does this have to do with what we're pitching to the CIA? I mean this is kind of this is this is kind of a
tangent. I'm not pitching this because it turns out this is already an existing conspiracy. I just wanted to explain it because it's interesting. What if we all right hear me out? This one might also cause some trouble with the black lumenati. What if we say that every president has at least a little bit of black DNA and it's a conspiracy to that the black lumenati has been making sure that there's a black guy in the White House since George Washington. I like where you're going with this.
What if we started small and we just said Biden is black. Biden is full 100% sub-Saharan African. Biden again we could start small. We could say Biden is like logic. I'm sort of like logic. Yeah. I don't think Biden can pass us that though. No, but what if we say Trump is black? That would be cool. Trump is like bronze now. Have you seen like a recent recent picture of Trump? Yeah, it's awesome. He's like a like a marble character. He's left like his he had like a comfy orange
hue at some point and then he transitioned into just a crazy like bronze statue mode. He's positively glowing. See, I mean, I guess one concern I would have with this is we don't want Biden to seem racist for like hiding the fact that he's black, but maybe we could spin it and say like, well, the reason he hid his blackness was originally so that people would vote he didn't want people to
be racist towards him totally understandable. Then later when it would have been more acceptable to come out of the closet, the reason he hid it is not gay because he didn't want to take the spotlight away from Obama. Why would he be hiding it now? Now he's now he's hiding it because he legitimately forgot that he's black. Oh, okay. He completely slipped his mind. Yeah, he called me called me Peter the other day. That's not even close to my name. It's fine. Don't that is your
name now. If he calls you that just roll with it. I had I had some other like a sort of good like Biden conspiracies we could launch to. One idea I think that could have sort of like bipartisan appeal is what if we said like Biden is like emperor Palpatine not in the sense of being evil, but that he only appears to be old and out of shape, but at any moment he could fly out of his
chair and do a crazy 360 spin attack. He's actually a spy young man. Yeah, and I think like this would have it appealed to both parties because then like conservatives could say like, I knew he was like Palpatine and then liberals could say like, I knew he wasn't that bad. I knew he was still pretty surprised. See, look how healthy he is. Did you see him do that crazy spin attack in the Senate? Oh, yeah. So so so for conservative, it's like, oh, he's dangerous because he's not actually
like an infirmal man. So when the next president's coming in, he's going to he's going to like do a backflip and then like wrap his legs around their neck and snap their neck and then he's going to do like 50 more backflips and then he's like, I'm the president now, Jay. Yeah, their conservatives are going to be like, I knew he was just like Palpatine. I knew it. Yeah, and then liberals can be like, he's like Palpatine. We love Star Wars.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that's a that's a home run conspiracy right there. And this is neat. That's not even the only Star Wars one I have. Oh, okay. The new this site this I think could also get major attraction. We say that the new Star Wars trilogy that's coming out because they're going to make a new trilogy and Ray, it's going to like follow Ray. Then they already did that. What was what was your last name? Daisy Ridley. Yeah, Daisy Ridley. No, but they're making like a new
trilogy. That's what are you talking there? They already did that though. This is this isn't this is not the main point. The the reason they're making these new movies like the next three is because they want to get women to join the space force to battle a Russia in space. And it's going to be like all hands on deck in space. So we're going to need the ladies as well to get up there. We need yeah, when you smaller hands for all the buttons they have to put these complicated space machines.
Yeah, like all the space force ships look like the interiors and the movie alien. And so we're going to need like some small feminine hands to get at everything. But on the outside they're going to look like X-wings. Yeah. And like so the conspiracy is like it's it's all like a a slyop like predictive programming. Women will see it and be like, Oh man, I'm going to join the space force and fight Russia. I'm going to fight Putin in space and be just like Daisy Ridley. So it's like
it's like top gun for girls, but in space this time. Yes, exactly. Exactly. All right, there's already precedent for this. I don't know how we're going to slope that one pass. Tom Cruise. He's probably going to get pissed. He'll be fine. Yeah, we know it is the last time. He when you found out we didn't like top gun to. But the thing it the thing that people don't know though, like people who haven't actually met him is like he's so small in person. They use a lot
of camera tricks to even get him up to like five five. Like he he hit me full force in that meeting. And it felt like I was being attacked by a toddler. But then he had Scientology goons come and do the real damage. So it doesn't really matter how small he is. But I recovered and now here I am. So I think it's fine to launch this one. You know, my notes are not the most organized here. This really should have been earlier when we were talking about Destiny's Child and Juice World.
But I've noticed that there is some racial disparity among conspiracies about which rappers and musicians are secretly gay. You know, the whole the big conspiracies that there's like a gay hip hop, you know, like a gay hip hop mafia and like, you know, puffed atty is gay and he's like cat couch casting casting couch. All these rappers and like he's banging everyone and all these rappers are like gay just on the DL. But I think like we could really even things out and start
conspiracies about white musicians being gay. I mean, who's it for? Because people would love that. Well, here's exactly. People did love it when it was Taylor Swift. Gailer was like the biggest conspiracy. It was basically QAnon for like white zoomered women. They were so into this. But then she kind of officially came out and was like, guys, I'm not gay. Like you gotta stop this. I'm not even gay. And so that's died. And now there's the field is wide open for us to say like, you know,
who's gay? Eminem is gay. Boom. You know why he was so homophobic on those early albums? Peer projection. He was obsessed the whole time. I don't know if you're joking right now. But have you ever seen the movie? The interview? No. Literally the first scene. Said he's interviewing Eminem and Eminem says, I'm gay. And then he talks about exactly what you just said. Oh, I guess that that's probably been done. Yeah. You know what we can do? There's other. No, no, what if we double down? We say
Taylor was lying. This Travis Kelsey guy. That's a freaking beard. Okay. She is gay. We still revive Gailer. Revive Gailer. I mean, I could get into that. Then again, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, football, all that is again, the CIA is known conspiracy. So I don't know if we can counter that. Yeah. I mean, I have others. I have better stuff. I have so much. I have way
better material. What if we said that airplanes are like the teleporters in the Star Trek, where you technically die every time you go on one and a different person is stepping off the plane. What about that? Well, okay. The thing is that with airplanes, there is no de-materialization process. So, well, I'm not like, I think people could still get into this conspiracy, though, and buy it. Like, if you fly across the country, that's not you stepping off that plane. That's
a totally different person. The only people who would buy this conspiracy are people who are not allowed on planes to be given up. Yeah. I mean, I guess this is kind of a long story. This is one just for people who like, this is one for people who like kind of are like, look like they're falling asleep on the bus, but like they're not falling asleep, you know. It's to make the people on the no-fly list feel better about the predicament. Yeah, that could, I mean, there could be a niche
for it. I don't even want to get on your stupid plane. It wouldn't even be me. It's like a teleporter or a soundtrack. You realize it's not even going to be you getting off in Denver. Enjoy getting your molecules rearranged in Denver. I like, I mean, I'm going to pitch that one. I think it would be good. I wrote down in my notes, a big pavement. Do not remember what I meant by that. I know what
you meant by that. Big pavement. Why is everything got to be paved? Why? Yeah. Everything made of concrete pavement tar where we get in all this is made from people is paved is pavement people. Yes, and it it plays into the whole because like one thing that's big right now is like kind of like anti-car walkability stuff. Humans, humans were designed to walk on ground on dirt. Why are we walking on pavement? It's not good for our feet. It's because of big pavement. Big pavement
invented shoes. Who do you think owns Nike? Who do you think owns Nike Adidas, Air Jordan's Yeezies, Big Pavement? Kanye's with Big Pavement. That's why Kanye made the Yeezie pods which are just socks with some padding. He's trying to he's trying to make a message about shoes and Big Pavement. I think this is the unexpectedly the best one to come up with. I don't know if let's see how he's going to go for any of these. It's hard to tell with them. They go for a lot of
real stupid stuff. Yeah, I mean they're weird. This is one I definitely I want to do. I want to find ways to bring back old conspiracies with a twist for new younger zoomer audiences. So like there's old conspiracies that zoomers don't care about like 9-11 was an inside job. 9-11, 9-11 was Skibbity toilet Grimmest Rizzler. Something like like you're on the right track. We need to make these old dusty conspiracies appeal to this new generation of kids. 9-11 predicted Skibbity toilet.
Or like you know how can we get kids to care about JFK? How do we get these old ones back in the rotation? Like we could have a video where it's like JFK gets shot and then there's like we oh I got it Fortnite sound. I got it. No, I got it. We we we okay so we do it TikTok style of course.
So it's it's old footage of JFK and stuff and we you know what muing is? Yes. So we we put footage of there it's like look look there you can see JFK is muing and then like if you show like a video of JFK like you know rubbing his finger on his jaw or whatever it's like look he's doing the muing gesture it's like JFK invented muing he knows that's why he was so handsome. They killed they killed him to stop people from knowing they killed him because of muing. He was look he was
looks maxing back in the 60s. I mean he was he was the hottest president for sure. If any if anyone was looks maxing it was JFK. I think people are really going to get into that. I think we get it. We personally could make that video for real. That's a good idea actually. Let's you know let's make a note of that. Let's put a pin in that. Yeah. Um the other one now this is one I've had for a while. So the creator of my little pony is named Lauren Faust. Mm-hmm. It's in like that's her actual name
is Faust. So I think we could make some sort of conspiracy where it's like Faust in Bargain. She the devil. Yeah like she is related to like the original Faust and she made some sort of demonic pact in order to create this show which has such a weird like hypnotic appeal on brony's you know lonely artists and you know very unfortunate young boys and old old boys actually. Honestly I believe in she's using her like evil powers for that. I believe that one for real. I basically do too.
And so she's done this and she's trapping all these you know men in like the shadow realm and you know eventually the pact is gonna you know eventually the devil is gonna come to collect what happens then. He's gonna take their souls to question you aka hell. I think that's pretty much a home run like that's that's guaranteed money I think with that one. I think that one's also an easy take talk thing to do. I think we should put a pin in that. Yeah screw this yeah we can
we can make our own side hustle here. All right that's another one we can start on around moving on. These are all old things like cartoons and music. These are all very old mediums. What really what really what kids really like if you want to appeal to the new generation is video games actually. So I think a good conspiracy would an easy one is League of Legends that's owned by a Chinese
company in real life. So we could just say it's like a Chinese side up to it's a Chinese side up to sort of get people adjusted to like Chinese style justice where you can you can just go to jail for no reason without a trial just like in you can just get banned in league without any real reason. So realize League of Legends wasn't made by Chinese people it was an American company before they got that. Yeah I mean I personally have been playing League of Legends before they were bought
up by the Chinese. So is there some spin we can put on this now can we make this work? I mean we could just you know do normal side of phobic you know conspiracy League of Legends say oh look the Chinese have control over our autistic youth. Yeah basically the same arguments we make for TikTok we can make for League of Legends easily. Okay done boom I asked pretty much another home run.
That's another $10 million for us in our pocket. The other most popular video game Counter-Strike we could just say that's a Russian side up because kids kids will associate like Russian speech and images of people getting shot with fun. They'd be like how funny like like and so when they see actual news footage of Russians shooting people you know they won't be as shocked it's sort of like predictive programming. Well isn't that kind of the point of all sort
of violent media? Did you games and movies is to detentify people? Yeah so I think this is that's another home run. Just an extension of that. Yeah okay the other bit the big game the hot game right now pal world. That's not the new hot one the new hot one is hell divers too which I I think would be an easy thing to go for basically I'll just I'll give you the rundown of this.
You know you know the movie Starship Troopers. Yeah well this is a game of Starship Troopers basically there's a soup there's a our new world government's called super earth and there is an alien threat from beyond the stars called determinants and there's also some robots calls I don't know but they're freaking the robots are trying to kill us and basically everybody and their mother right now is saying for the glorious super kill the bugs kill the clanks you know for democracy
whatever and that's a that's the new hotness. Is it like Starship Troopers in that it's implied that it's like a false flag? Yes kind of but also it's real but kind of because we did farm the alien threat for a hundred years and they broke out so it kind of was our fault but you know I love hell divers too so I'm not trying to speak trees we're sponsored by the way. Okay hashtag it
hashtag it. Okay well if there's any relevance left in pal world that's an easy one you can just say it's you know it's about conditioning people to get into union busting and basically just promoting modern day slavery. To prepare for Abraham Lincoln style slavery reversal. So yeah to prepare for white slavery as predicted by the successionists discord the video game website this is too easy of conspiracy it's right there in the name discord it promotes discord
it's a it's a siop boom done. I mean more than that's for you know petafiles and stuff it's petafilering. Yeah I mean that's an easy one that's like how would they not? Well no that one does exist. Oh really like people think the discord was just created as like a as well as like a honeypot yeah that one's that one's already see I already though they got a lot of like us two we're just two guys we're we're a drop in the ocean of the guys that the CIA has coming up with stuff so you know
it's hard to try to do that. But we're obviously the best you know in our opinion yeah we're the best but the you know money talks and we have not seen a lot of it. This one you know this there's no bad ideas in a brainstorm so I'm just throwing this out there you know I don't know if you've noticed
this but the the internet you know it's getting a little bit anti-semitic these days. So I think what we could do is we could take a little bit of the heat off of the juice you know they're everyone on the internet is very anti-semitic and Nazi so we could take a little heat off of them and we could start fake conspiracies about other you know small groups in America like we could say you know why are Japanese people making all this anime and all this power world it's to lower the
birth rate boom. Why are all the why are all the Mexican people coming from you know the border why are they what are they doing they're trying to do something weird at the border. I think that one might already be out there. Oh but you know there's no bad ideas in a brainstorm though so I'm not judging you. It's up with black people. What are they doing? Asians. What's that what are
they up to? What are what are what are what is it yeah yeah what are what are what if we just made racism to racism to what I'm saying is we disperse we disperse it a little bit instead of having everyone be so concentrated on hating on Jews what if we just spread it out a little bit. What if we made like hyperboreal little dark age edits but instead of like for Nazis it's for the Jews. You're saying get some like really pro Jewish stuff going like a pro Jewish
MGMT little dark age hyperboreal edits like return to Israel. What are we doing what are we doing here. Yeah well yeah let's just get some more pro is a real propaganda out there. That's what I think. Well there's no bad ideas in a brainstorm. Not a lot of good ones either. We know. The other thing is like some of these don't some of these might not sound that good or like they might not sound like convincing. You might be listening to this thinking people won't think national treasure is
real. People won't think MGM was gay but the thing is we have an intern and he is going to turn all of these ideas into image macros and MS paint. So there's going to be like a picture and there's going to be text on it. And when you do that studies have shown that people are 95% more likely to believe that it's real. Also you know are the people we have to show the see they are much older than us. They are only just now getting into you know 2010 style.
I can have I can have G's burger memes. So that's that's the format we have to present them with. Because they're all like above 50 above above 60. That's I mean that's the end of my ideas. That's what I have heading into this meeting. If you have anything you want to just hit me with right now. I know you've been busy with court and the whole Wendy's thing but if there's anything you just want to throw out. I mean I'm I'm all yours. Well I think conspiracy I like
throw it out. Now is that the legal system is just fake because obviously my theory for invoking squatters rights plus castle doctrine. That's like inner tight legally but you know what are how Sir S. Daniel bracelet. It's all fake. I agree. People people a lot of people think that if you if you start the fight for no reason you're automatically in the wrong. But I had I had a reason obviously they were entering my domicile my bathroom. Well I'm saying I'm saying that's what like
uneducated people think. Plants. Like if you see the video footage that you what it looks like is you breaking into a Wendy's and just you just start wailing on people. But that's not like that's not what actually is going on. That's literally what happened but it's not really the first punch wasn't thrown until they attempted to open the bathroom door. Well this is what people are not really sure that the fight might have moved outside of the bathroom. But you know adrenaline.
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coming out. That's all I have. That's all I have. You have anything else you'd like to leave our listeners with? Well, as terms I want you to I want you to go look at the new Sora video AI. It's insane. We probably should have brought that up as a conspiracy but if you look at it you'll just you know you'll you'll come up with your own applications. If you're a real fan of the show you'll come up with your own applications for how this new video AI is going to ruin everything.
And there you go. Thanks for listening everyone. Definitely.