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State Of The Game

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State of the Game was one of the first golf podcasts to hit the internet and remains one of the most respected. Hosted by Rod Morri and boasting two of the game's most important voices in co-hosts Mike Clayton and Geoff Shackelford, State of the Game is the go to podcast for untainted and unfiltered analysis of the game at every level. If you're looking for swing tips and gear reviews you've come to the wrong place but for thoughtful discussion about the big issues facing the game you'll find this a comfortable home.
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Episodes

Ep 102: The Show We Never Thought We'd Have

Finally. That's been the predominant response to the Distance Insights Report released earlier this week, a document that may well change the shape of the game for decades to come. Among the most vocal agitators for action on this issue for the past two decades have been Mike Clayton and Geoff Shackelford and on Ep 102 they have their say on the report and what it means.

Feb 06, 20201 hr 8 minEp. 102

Ep 101: The Premier Golf League Bombshell

Not for the first time a World Golf Tour has been proposed with the noble intention of having 'the best play against the best more often'. Premier League Golf has been in the planning for several years and many of the world's top players have admitted to being interested. But can the PGA Tour put a stop to it and if not what would that mean for the Tour and the rest of world golf? Join Geoff Shackelford - the journalist who broke the story - Mike Clayton and Rod Morri as they ponder the potentia...

Jan 27, 20201 hr 24 minEp. 101

SOG Ep100: And they said we'd never make it...

It was exactly eight years ago today we released Episode One of 'The golf podcast that talks about stuff that matters' and 100 shows later has anything really changed in the game? The answer - as always - is both yes and no. There are dozens more golf podcasts to choose from, 'fan media' is apparently a thing and both the European and PGA Tours have different leaders. But the ball still goes too far, lots of players still don't 'get it' and Mike Clayton is still - despite what Miguel Angel Jimen...

Jan 21, 20201 hr 5 minEp. 100

SOG Ep 099: A Very Special Announcement

State of the Game co-host Mike Clayton has some very special news to share on episode 99 of the show. After almost 10 years alongside Geoff Ogilvy, Mike Cocking and Ashley Mead in the OCCM design firm the former European Tour player has departed the company in search of new opportunities. First up is an announcement that he will be a collaborative partner with two of the world's best known and most highly respected designers, Frank Pont and Mike DeVries, in a new venture called CDP Golf. The tri...

Oct 16, 20191 hr 3 minEp. 99

SOG Ep 098: Distance, Money and Brandel Chamblee

Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and host Rod Morri delve into recent happenings in the world of golf and analyse what it means for the bigger picture. From the distance debate (of course) and changes in the PGA Tour schedule to whether a $15 million payday is off putting and is the LPGA playing courses that are too easy? All that comes under the microscope as well as Brandel Chamblee's surprise switch of position back to advocating for bifurcation of the professional and amateur game. Links ment...

Sep 03, 20191 hr 22 minEp. 98

SOG Ep 097: The Open Washup And Is Something Happening With The Ball?

The success of Royal Portrush, Xander Schauffele and the driver controversy, are the authorities planning to do something about the ball in the autumn and why you can't say anything bad about Memphis. All that and more in episode 97 of State of the Game. Links mentioend on this episode: Geoff's story on the Distance Report (https://golfweek.com/2019/07/17/golf-distance-report-martin-slumbers-technology-driven-game/?utm_source=smg&utm_medium=wasabi&utm_content=home-latest-news) Mark Giann...

Jul 26, 20191 hr 34 minEp. 97

SOG Ep 096: McGinley Takes Irish Open Back To The Future

There is much excitement among architecture types about next week's Irish Open at the famed Lahinch in County Clare. Tournament host Paul McGinley joins Episode 96 of the show to explain how he plans to take the event back to the future making the on-site experience one that far exceeds watching on TV. The 2014 Ryder Cup captain says tournament goers can expect a festival atmosphere in the tiny town of Lahinch as the entire week will be a celebration of the game. Special Guest: Paul McGinley.

Jun 27, 20191 hr 10 minEp. 96

SOG Ep 095: Expect A Spiritual US Open At Pebble beach

As the Old Course is to Scotland so Pebble Beach is to America and a US Open on the Monterey Peninsula is something a bit special. Join Pebble beach devotee Geoff Shackelford alongside Mike Clayton and Rod Morri for a breakdown of what role the course might play at this week's 119th US Open as well as some discussion on the Hank Haney controversy from last week's US Women's Open and what the fallout might mean in the bigger picture. Links mentioned on this episode: Geoff Shackelford's story from...

Jun 09, 20191 hr 13 minEp. 95

SOG Ep 094: Barnbougle Dunes Course Study Tour

It always promised to be an interesting experiment and it was. The inaugural State of the Game Golf Course Study Tour to Barnbougle Dunes earlier this month had a bit of everything but, as expected, the highlight was the chance to sit down with Mike Clayton for an 'unplugged' podcast/Q&A session. Clayton touches on everything from how the Barnbougle project got off the ground to stories from the European Tour from the 80's and 90's. Its everything you'd expect it to be and more and if you mi...

May 29, 20191 hr 21 minEp. 94

SOG Ep 093: Bob Denney on AW Tillinghast

With the PGA Championship set to return to the Bethpage Black course in New York next week there will be plenty of discussion about course design AW Tillinghast. While known mostly as a course architect, Tillinghast had many more strings to his bow including a well known - though little understood - tour of the US during the depression years to advise courses on more financially sustainable management practises. What is less known is the extensive records he kept of that period and PGA Historian...

May 08, 20191 hr 35 minEp. 93

SOG Ep 092 Master Coach Denis Pugh

Denis Pugh is a 40 year overnight success story. In his early years as a coach his theories were often scorned but having worked with more than 200 touring professionals - including Colin Montgomerie, our own Mike Clayton and of course the reigning Open Champion Francesco Molinari - his thirst for knowledge and communication skills have been proven. Denis talks everything from what it takes to succeed at the top level in the modern game to how he helped Molinari go from merely very good to truly...

May 02, 20191 hr 15 minEp. 92

SOG Ep 091 The Masters Big Picture

Tiger Woods winning his fifth green jacket was something special but The Masters is about so much more than just the 72 holes each year. Join Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri as they break down what the 2019 Masters means in the bigger picture, from changes to the course (in particular the fifth hole) to media, technology and the role of the Augusta National Women's Amateur. Oh, and there's a brief mention of the possibility that distance might be an issue as well.

Apr 22, 20191 hr 23 minEp. 91

SOG Ep 090: Old Course Rough and Rules, Rules, Rules

Is golf going into meltdown or are we just having a rough patch because of the new rules? Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri delve into the seemingly weekly rules snafus in the professional game while also touching on the 'enhanced' rough we can expect at the 2021 Open at St Andrews and what might happen if the pro game made its own rules. Links mentioned in this episode: John Huggan talks to (https://www.golfdigest.com/story/political-issues-in-and-out-of-golf-have-ra-chief-martin-sl...

Mar 02, 20191 hr 22 minEp. 90

SOG Ep 089: Saudi Arabia, Hao Tong Li and Augusta National

The storm over the European Tour's visit to Saudi Arabia is only intensifying but it's not the only controversy bubbling in golf. There is still lots of disquiet over the penalising of Hao Tong Li in Dubai as well as discussion about Lucas Herbert's explanation of his actions in removing loose impediments with his club in wasteland at the same event. It's not all bad news though, with Geoff Shackelford believing changes to the 5th hole at Augusta National made public this week suggest the course...

Feb 01, 20191 hr 36 minEp. 89

SOG Ep 088: Lucy Li and the Rules of Amateur Status

Most were expecting a rules controversy early in 2019 but few could have predicted what has transpired with 16-year-old Lucy Li. The world's number nine ranked non-professional player looks all but certain to be stripped of her amateur status after appearing in an online video ad promoting the Apple watch in direct contravention of the rules.The USGA is yet to release a formal decision but SOG co-host Geoff Shackelford says in many ways the issue is one of the USGA's own making. Mike Clayton has...

Jan 10, 20191 hr 15 minEp. 88

SOG Ep 087: Ru Macdonald and the power of Instagram

Interested in golf course architecture and wondering the best social media platform to indulge your passion? Golf Channel regular, popular blogger and SOG co-host Geoff Shackelford says Instagram (https://www.instagram.com) is the best and makes his case - with the help of Scottich Golf Podcast (http://scottishgolfpodcast.com) host and European Tour Social media team member Ru Macdonald - on episode 87 of SOG. There are a bunch of Instagram accounts menitoned in this episode (find the list below...

Dec 22, 20181 hr 23 minEp. 87

SOG Ep 086: Richard Gillis and Over The Top TV

Golf on TV is big business and its in the midst of some dramatic change. Sports business writer and consultant Richard Gillis joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to explain the concept of 'Over the top TV' and why the game's two biggest Tours - and Tiger Woods - are rushing to be a part of it. Also, for the golf course architecture nuts, places are now open for our Golf Course Study Tour to Barnbougle Dunes with Mike Clayton in May 2019. Three days of golf including playing with ...

Dec 15, 20181 hr 26 minEp. 86

SOG Ep 085: Golf's New Rules

Golf's new rules come into effect in less than two months but how many people are really ready? USGA Manager of Rules Outreach & Programming Joe Foley joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to discuss that plus lots more including backstopping and the potential for bifurcating the game's equipment rules. Also, we are excited to announce our inaugural Golf Course Architecture golf and live podcast Tour will take place May 3-5 2019 at one of the game's greatest public venues, Barn...

Nov 22, 20181 hr 17 minEp. 85

SOG Ep 084: The Euro Tour and Saudi Arabia

Should the European Tour be playing a tournament in Saudi Arabia? Simple question, complicated set of answers. Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by Middle East expert Arthur MacMillan to discuss the as yet unnamed Saudi event and what its future might be in the wake of the murder of journalist Jamal Khassoggi. There's also some thoughts on Rory McIlroy's commments on the European Tour, some Tiger observations and a heartwarming story about Mike Clayton from his playing day...

Nov 14, 20181 hr 5 minEp. 84

SOG Ep 083: Jason Day Architecture Critic

Is the handicap system killing golf's adventurous spirit? Will we ever see George Thomas' 'course within a course' concept catch on? Does Jason Day have any credibility when he suggests architects are to blame in golf's distance debate? Is the Tiger/Phil match just the first in what could become a new golf franchise? All this plus some chat about the Ryder Cup course, Tiger Woods' unusual interview at Le Golf National and we ask if there is simply too much professional golf being played? We hope...

Oct 14, 20181 hr 41 minEp. 83

Episode 82: SOG Ep 82 Ran Morrissett

Last month Ran Morrissett published a list of 147 courses he nominated as 'Custodians of the Game'. The venues all promote the simplest and most joyful elements of the game, from width and playing angles to walking and simple green keeping practises. But the pre-amble to the list was at least as - if not more interesting than - the list itself and Ran joins Mike Clayton and host Rod Morri to discuss his thinking when putting together his list.

Sep 13, 20181 hr 35 minEp. 82

Episode 81: SOG Ep 81 - The Tiger/Phil Match (and more)

Sometimes there is so much to talk about you don't need a guest and episode 81 of State of the Game comes at just such a time. From the Tiger/Phil big money match to reactions to Bellerive to Inbee Park's slap in the face from one of the game's biggest manufacturers and the possibility of a PGA and PGA Tour merger, its all happening in the world of golf. Join Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and host Rod Morri for an unfiltered take on important recent happenings in the world of professional golf...

Aug 30, 20181 hr 34 minEp. 81

Episode 80: SOG Episode 80 - Andrew Coltart and Scottish Golf

Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by former Ryder Cup player Andrew Coltart to discuss the state of Scottish, and world golf. Coltart won the 1997 Australian PGA at NSW Golf Club, a tournament made famous by another incident involving Clayton himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl_Nny8TwNM

Jul 31, 20181 hr 26 minEp. 80

Episode 79: SOG Ep 79 US Open fallout - the big picture

It's been a couple of weeks but the controversy from the US Open continues to bubble with many believing the USGA has lost a significant amount of credibility after happenings at Shinnecock Hills. Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton join Rod Morri to discuss the long term fallout from the 118th US Open as well as some Ryder Cup chat and more memories of Peter Thomson. For the reprint of Thomson's book mentioned, https://www.slatterymedia.com

Jun 28, 20181 hr 16 minEp. 79

Episode 78: SOG Ep 78 - Clayton remembers Peter Thomson

Peter Thomson was a giant of the game, not only in Australia but around the world. His five Open titles put him among the greats in history but his contributions to golf extend far beyond simply his brilliance with clubs in hand. His writings on the game and key role in establishing golf in parts of the world previously unknown sets him apart from his peers and he will forever be cherished. In Episode 78, Mike Clayton remembers the Peter Thomson he knew, sharing first hand stories of times spent...

Jun 21, 20181 hr 33 minEp. 78

Episode 77: SOG Ep 77 Trinity Forest

2006 US Open winner Geoff Ogilvy joins Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to talk about the new and intriguing Byron Nelson host venue Trinity Forest. With the course dominating pre-tournament talk, Ogvily outlines some of the reasons Trinity Forest will be an entertaining and important test this week. We also get some thoughts on whether he will consider a career as a commentator once his playing days are over and there's a bonus 10 minutes of 'fly on the wall' chat as Ogilvy and Clayton shoot the bree...

May 16, 20181 hr 9 minEp. 77

Episode 76: SOG Ep 76

PGA Tour player and course architecture junkie Zac Blair joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri on Episode 76 to talk the distance debate, course architecture, The Buck Club project and more.

Mar 17, 20181 hr 28 minEp. 76

Episode 75: SOG Ep 75 - The Ball Debate

Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton join host Rod Morri to break down the ball debate which has broken out in the recent weeks.

Mar 07, 20181 hr 20 minEp. 75

Episode 74: SOG Ep 74

Billy Dettlaff is a retired golf professional who has produced a stunning new book on the history of his craft. The extraordinary end result is a book of both stunning beauty and historical importance. Billy joined Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri on Episode 74 to discuss the book, Doctors of the Game, while there was also some banter about what impact, if any, Tiger Woods' comments on the ball may have.

Nov 06, 201752 minEp. 74

Episode 73: SOG Episode 73

It's been a while but Episode 73 is worth the wait as Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by Geoff Ogilvy to talk Presidents Cup, players not marking on the green before opponents hit their shot, where the best crowds in the world are to be found (this one was a surprise) and plenty more.

Oct 10, 20171 hr 13 minEp. 73
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