¶ Clone Wars Review
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So this week we're talking about the Clone Wars animated film , which kicks off the animated series , and we're also going to be talking about episode seven of the Acolyte . But first let's get into this Clone Wars thing .
So the Clone Wars animated movie takes place chronologically and this is interesting , I just found this out today Actually chronologically between season one and season three . There's two specific episodes where and I remember this because it's the battle of christophis , christoph , christoph , christoph , christophsis , I think . Yeah , um .
So even though it it is kind of like the kickoff , it does take place chronologically , kind of out of order with the way that we watched it . But there's reasons we watched it in this order .
So the film came out in 2008 , and George Lucas said that it kind of felt like an afterthought because they were watching clips from the animated series and just kind of threw it together . So it did well in the box office , but critically not so much .
Um , there's a lot of uh , there's a lot of bad blood circulating around the movie what we watched today was in the theater yeah , that came out in the theater . So , yeah , I have no idea . Yep , so so it came out in theaters 2008 and is set 22 aby .
¶ Character Development in Star Wars
Um , now , what's important about this movie ? It's not high cinema , we all know that . But what's important about this , in my opinion , is seeing the beginnings , the foundations of the relationships between anakin and ahsoka and ahsoka and rex .
So there's a lot of I would also argue anakin and obi-wan yes , okay , oh yes , absolutely yeah , that goes without saying I , yet that's why I didn't say it but it's no , no , but this is no , no , I don't mean it like that , I don't mean , I know I don't mean like that , but no , no , you're absolutely right .
This it's definitely like we're we're seeing , we're seeing that growth , but these are but with ahsoka and rex . These are new relationships right with anakin . So but we , you know , so we've already seen the development a little bit with anakin and obi-wan , from the phantom menace and attack the clones .
So now we're gonna , you know , start getting more into that um and it's . I just feel that this is , this is an important film , just because we are seeing the beginnings of some of these relationships that will make other events as we get further on in our journey , so much more heartbreakingly crushing .
Like I was , I was choked up watching the movie today , just knowing I mean , I've seen the movie like 10 times , but it's just like knowing the direction that certain characters and relationships take . I'm just like , oh yeah but they gotta get there I know , I know , let them get there . I'm just trying to say anything or spoil anything , but I'm just .
You know , let's get there , we're gonna get there , we're gonna get there together . So , hopefully , for those of you that are listening to the podcast on a weekly basis , I hope you you are following along with us and enjoying this ride , because it's going to be fun and we're all going to be in a constant state of pain and anguish as we continue on .
So a couple of topics I just wanted to touch on and just jump in , so we don't have to go around but just jump in . If you got something to say , just jump in . Um , we already talked about relationships between anakin and ahsoka . Um , that was a big deal , seeing their dynamic over a relatively short period of time .
Um , anakin's reluctance , you know , ahsoka's desperate need to prove herself as being more than just the youngling , and you kind of feel that Anakin doesn't want to take her on because he's not trying to experience any more loss in his life .
Maybe , maybe you know , but I feel like this is maybe one of the only good things that yoda has done in terms of anakin's development well , I think he was trying to well , because when he you know well , spoiler obviously , when he was like as long as he can detach later , right ?
Right .
Basically Right . He knows that's not going to happen .
No , I think he does , I think .
Yoda might think he's it's a hope , it's a hope .
yes , it's a hope . It's a new hope .
But it's a hope that he will . But it's a hope that he will . But you can see , once he attaches himself to her , that's it . You can see it in his face . She's my Padawan .
Right .
I'm responsible , but much more , a lot more , a lot more . But in that little interaction is what I'm saying a lot more , you know a lot more .
It's in that little interactions what I'm saying , since it has it's been such a short period and she has such a huge um persona for such a little little thing like seeing her , seeing her walk out for the first time off of that shuttle , yet with confidence , and she's just teeny , teeny , tiny little ahsoka with the big eyes and she's just like ready to go .
You know , rex is like you know . She was like , well , technically , I outrank you , oh , right Off the bat , off the bat . And Rex is like you know . Well , no , in my book , experience outranks everything . And her response was well , I guess I better start getting some experience , let's roll .
I mean , mean , she is , she is , she is , uh , she snips , she is snippy well , for me it was like because we got to see her born as an infant basically , um , as an infant and what she could do .
all I can imagine when I saw this was and I've seen it before but I can just imagine what's going to happen later . Yeah , even though I know some of it . Oh yeah , but even if you knew nothing ? If you knew nothing , you can see from how powerful she was . Then what do you think she's going to do as an adult ?
And boy does she have a fucking story arc , man .
So yeah , but that's my take on it story arc man .
So yeah , oh , but that's my take on it . So , if you got for , for those of you who are new to star wars , stick with us , because y'all are in for a wild ride wild emotional with ahsoka . So it's , she's a great character . I mean , she really is a great , great character .
Um , when , uh , when we were up in boston for fan expo , I had a chance to talk with ashley ekstein , the the lady that does the voice of ahsoka , and , um , you know , we were chit-chatting about the character a little bit and she , she is really deeply invested in ahsoka .
Um , it was great hearing her talk about how she really gets into the psychology of the character , like she's not just reading lines on paper . I mean , she is she is Ahsoka . She is . Yeah , ashley is Ahsoka and she loves the character . You know , a lot of actors , especially voice actors , are just like you know , I do it , I have fun with it .
Let's roll , let's ride and then that's it . But she embodies ahsoka and it's just great and that's what's great . Um , so yeah , I'm looking forward to that and there's gonna be a lot to do with that . Um , another thing I was , I was , I was thinking about Palpatine is a dick , he's a genius .
He's like in Harry Potter when Ollivander was talking to Harry about Voldemort and he was like he did great things Terrible . But great . That's Palpatine , but he's such a just an asshole oh , yeah , definitely , and he cares zero fucks and it's . It's just seeing seeing all the orchestration behind this .
You know stealing , you know like kidnapping the baby and rhoda , rhoda I think that's stinky's name . I think right is that correct job is kid they .
I think I don't remember them saying it at all , but yeah , I don't remember them saying it either , and I just watched a few hours .
Yeah , we did too . So yeah , I just heard him , I just called him stinky no , he , no , no , when , uh , when Jabba was talking he mentioned in Huttese he mentioned him as Rowe . Oh , I didn't read that part .
You guys don't speak limited Huttese no .
No , that's not an option on my closed captioning . I don't know what to tell you .
I'm not fluent , but I mean , you pick things up , I'm not fluent in there , that's all . I know , day one along , day one go All right . So Palpatine your thoughts on this evil genius . I mean anyone .
I feel like and if anybody else has contrary thoughts , let me know I feel the same way about him in this regard as I felt about the Joker in most cases , where it's not so much that they're a genius , it's just that they have thought about things where it's like okay , well , if this happens , then I can play it off this way .
And if this happens , I can play it off this way , like it's not that there's a cohesive plan , it's just okay . Well , if this fails , like he's a spin artist is what he is . Oh yeah .
Oh , 100% , he's got an evil plan , don't get me wrong , but it's more of a regardless of what happens , I know how to spin it so that I come out on top anyways , yeah he doesn't nothing .
None of palpatine's plans fail . It's like everything , like if something's designed , if something fails , it's designed to fail , like it fails on purpose . So whether Dooku would have gotten Rhoda to Jabba or not is completely irrelevant . Palpatine still gets what he wants one way or another .
He would have either gotten the trade routes which he did get , and he pushes Anakin a little bit further along and he pushes Anakin a little bit further along or if Dooku would have got there , then he would have got the trade routes for the Separatist side , which still works in Palpatine's favor .
He's playing both fields .
He is both fields . I know , but he's mastering both fields , which is why he can't lose . He's betting on himself and against himself every step of the way .
I think his end game is Anakin . He doesn't care who else suffers to be honest with you for some reason he cares for anakin because he knows the power well that's in him he does , but now I don't know . Now that I'm thinking about it , I wonder if there's more to it . Well , anyway , that's the acolyte anyway .
I was just about to spoil a bunch of stuff , so I guess I won't do that go ahead , louis .
What ?
no , I was going to spoil a bunch of stuff like a bunch of stuff like all at once holy shit no , and from the , from future stuff oh yeah based off of what we're talking . I'm trying to keep it , you know it's hard .
That's why I just said end game .
That's why I think it's going to be so much fun for us when we start watching things that we haven't seen . I mean , we , we , we all know for the most part how things end and wrap up , but there's so much meat in the middle that we're not , because I've like , I'm looking forward to watching rebels . I haven't seen all the episodes of rebels .
I've seen all the clone wars , but , um , you guys haven't .
So I think that's going to be a fun ride , um , but yeah , I mean we , for us it's already spoiled because we know , but it's , it's connecting the dots , it's you know , and I think for for us , that we you know , for knowing what we know , but not seeing everything in the middle , I think things are going to get like so much clearer for us .
I think it's going to be . I think we're going to end up with a deeper attachment and understanding star wars , more so than we already have now well , well , even for me , like with dooku , I have an attachment .
Yeah to him because of what we're doing , right , because obviously I knew him , but I didn't know why , and so the why was important absolutely , and and you're seeing him in this movie and he's still just like count douchebag he is but you know , but you , you get it , though you do you have a better understanding of what's going on behind his , his , his ,
thought process .
So so , overall , what ? What did we think about the movie ? Like what ? What were your , your thoughts ?
It's got a bad rap , but I , you know , I don't really want to talk about , like you know , the critical aspects of it , but you know , in terms of the , the story , in terms of , you know , getting us to , to , to know these characters and getting us set up for this animated universe that we're about to dive into , what are your thoughts on that ?
so I guess I'll say that , um , it makes sense .
Um , now that you mentioned that this does take place technically , like a couple seasons into what we're about to start watching , yeah , between one because , like , had we not , had we not watched the micro series , like I have no idea who ventress is right , um so , so I mean , there's certain things like that where it's character wise , where you know there's a
presumption that we know these people , but we don't , right . But I thought it was a great introduction to youngling Ahsoka . As opposed to baby Ahsoka , she's a Padawan . I didn't think it was interesting .
Not a youngling . She would smack you around for calling her a youngling . She would smack you around for calling her a youngling .
She's like . I'm a paddle . If either Ashley or Rosario want to smack me around , that's absolutely fine , hey .
That's a different show .
That's a show I'd like to be on as well . What am I saying , Louie ? What ?
about you , sir , I was one of those people who had some disdain towards the movie going in , but I really did try and sit down and watch it with a fresh set of eyes . To my joy and surprise , my daughter decided to sit down and watch the movie with me Awesome . And she , about halfway through the movie , she said have you seen this movie before ?
And I said , yeah , so have you Because we saw it in theaters . So the first half of the movie is actually pretty good and I actually took notes Because one thing that I wanted to kind of as like light side , dark side , going into , going into it was some of the character designs .
So like I really think that they nailed a lot of the character designs to bringing some of the live action characters into the show , like Dooku's character design in this movie was a big ass mustache , fantastic , half his face like he like .
It's the drawing , it's right , but it's the vibe . It's like they're capturing a vibe , not like , not like a one-for-one replica live action .
They weren't going for christopher lee , they were going for that vibe and I agree with you , louis , I think it captured the hell but then towards the end of the movie , the movie does , um , it seems to kind of drag on a little bit towards the end , like this .
The whole premise of the plot is essentially a side mission , right , as is most of the filler episodes . This felt like a filler episode that turned into a long movie .
But then again , you know , the introduction to these new characters , which I know are going to be important , going into the show , like you know , first time seeing meeting Rex , first time meeting Ahsoka , first time meeting Ventress , first time meeting , I don't know , I don't know , did we meet , uh not count , to do general gravis ?
I can't even remember if general gravis is in the movie no , not yet no , okay . Um , so so I understand the importance of the movie
¶ Praise for Clone Wars Essentials
. Um , it just it felt a little long towards the end , but there's some great battle sequences there's . Yeah , you know , like seeing seeing anakin face off against dooku was cool .
Um , the opening battle sequence like the big battle sequence with um anakin and obi-wan , before uh snips even gets there , yeah , that whole sequence is freaking awesome so badass like you see both of them just and rex too .
You just see the three of them just doing fucking cool shit yeah , yeah , those are some really , really , really cool scenes .
Um . So overall , uh , I was pleasantly surprised . I enjoyed it more than I thought I was going to . It's definitely something that all Star Wars if you have any interest in getting into the Clone Wars lore and history period that whole Ahsoka arc this is a must watch . You can't skip this one . Essential , essential can't agree .
You can't skip this one essential , essential , and I I agree with you , man , it's like the um , like , even like , when it opens you hear , like it opens with that , that that battle chatter yeah , yeah you know , and it's so cool like it , it sets it up like you're , this is something new and different and it's gonna be deep .
I mean , you're hearing , you're hearing that chatter , and then the announcer comes in , like you know , the old world war ii movie tone news thing . You know like , yeah , you know that was really cool .
You know battle on chris ossoff's , you know obi-wan , general kenobi and skywalker's , beleaguered troops are on the ropes and you know that , yeah , that whole thing , and it was just it . It was so cool how they did that and it just it . I think it does . It just really sets the tone and the vibe for the entire series . But we're not .
I will say like direction it's going to go .
Yeah , some of the . I did note that the soundtrack was particularly really cool . Like like during like the battle sequences , there was like some hardcore like metal guitar riffs going on in the background . And you know , when the movie was over with , uh , I asked my my daughter she's 16 said you know , what do you think ?
And she said I really liked it I thought that stinky was really cute . You know , every time like they would show Stinky , All Sick and stuff , she would go aw . It looks so sad and so cute . But I then tried to roll into , since she was here . I snuck on episode one of the TV show .
I was like , well , maybe I can just roll right into that and show like that . And about halfway through the episode she got up and left and I was like what's going on ? She was like the movie was good , but not enough to get me to want to watch more .
Just like a nice trick Dad .
That's all right , peace out .
All right .
I will say I really did like the beginning , the kind of announcer voice , but it will say it threw me off later because there's one of the I don't know if he's a captain one of the people on the ships that is him way too much like that voice it threw me off like Admiral , you're an announcer , or was ?
it , this person giving us an update .
Like I loved his voice like , yeah , it's a great voice . It just threw me off because I'm like wait , is that ?
yeah , it's the same guy yeah , that's admiral yular , and yeah , and I think tom kane does the voice , I think it is super over the top . It is , but it sounds so good I love it .
It sounds so good . It's like so professional sounding .
And we actually we see him again Like we're seeing him as a young man , but we see him on the Death Star . He's one of the admirals that sits around the table .
Spoiler .
Oh , my bad In live action .
Live action , yeah , but I know what you're talking about .
Yeah , in episode four .
Well , yeah .
Oh , okay , my bad .
He just shows up somewhere .
Yeah , I won't . Okay , which is interesting , yeah , so , so I mean , it's cool , like there's . There's a few like supposedly I I think they've made this official now , but rex is in return of the jedi . Um , he was a specific . They've retconned it to be . There's an old man , the old guy , yeah , so he's what he's a . Yeah , yeah , yeah , I'll show you .
You gotta show me that . Yeah , it's a bit of a stretch , because it's like , oh man , it's like with the uh , with the rapid aging of the clones yeah and I'm like , but you know what it's , it's fun , it's like that's it's fun , it's whatever .
¶ Anakin and Ahsoka's Dynamic Growth
Um , I liked , I liked the , the assault on the , the teth monastery , that was like my favorite bit .
Oh yeah , in the whole movie it was giving hardcore like vietnam movie vibes when they were in the drop ship and every you know red lights like , oh , green light , green light , go , go , go and they open the doors and it's just like boom , boom , boom , boom and and as they were going and they were in a jungle , you know , so it just it did .
It gave off like like I like vietnam war movies , so it gave off like some really cool vietnam war vibes .
But that whole that whole fortune on the kicking that would have been cool .
You know what , if you take like a vietnam war movie soundtrack and lay it on top of that battle , it would fit perfect . You should do it . You know what we might have to do that of that battle , it would fit perfect , you should do it . You know what we might have to do that , because that would . It would fit perfect .
Fortunate son , we got to get out of this place , you know um , that'd be a great uh , paint it black by the rolling stones , I mean that would be great on social media and stuff like seeing them come in . It's like I see a red door and I want to paint it black and then like , oh man , anyway .
And then like the walkers climbing up the side of the fucking mountain , anakin and a stoker racing to the top you know , I really like this , oh , jumping on I'm a
walker and basically trying , I mean helping the clone that was in there , because I mean yeah he would have got shot in the glass . Yeah , and she was deflecting .
That was pretty cool yeah , and she was rocking it and then her and her and anakin and anakin , anakin fucking took the . Uh , the battle droids . What are those ? It's a stap I don't know what it's called uh , aerial platform , s-t-a-p area , I think area anyway , the the things that the droids were flying , the battle droids were flying .
Yes , and fucking anakin commandeers one and he's like , he's like rex , follow me and rex looks at him like uh , all right so yeah , I'm still climbing up this fucking rope . But all right , but he , he's so loyal to anakin , it's , it's really cool . But um that , that whole sequence , that whole scene was just so cool , so cool .
I really like this anakin . This is my anakin . He , he yeah , because he's not .
He seems really confident even though you can see he's still got some conflicting , of course , some emotions , but he's not whining about them , no , and that's my favorite you know , and and sherry , you and I talked about this a little bit and , and , guys , I want to know , if you like , how you feel about this .
But this , this movie really , really shows anakin has a big heart . I mean the way that he , he constantly , I mean he , he was , I don't he wasn't even hard on ahsoka , but he , he said what she needed to hear , but then he was always encouraging after it when he was like you wouldn't ?
You know , you're reckless , you wouldn't make it as obi-wan's padawan , but you just might make it as mine . And she got that big smile on her face . So he , he's tempering the training with kindness and he has just a big caring heart that everybody fucks with and it makes me so sad . Yeah , palpatine uses his heart against him .
The jedi won't let him embrace that love that he has had . The the jedi been different yeah in terms of love and attachment .
I really believe and I know how corny this sounds before it comes out of my fucking mouth , but I do believe that if anakin would have been able to tap into his love instead of the hate , we would not have had Darth Vader Correct that shit would not have happened ?
And what does every ? Well , we'll talk about it later . No , what , what ? No , I really keep thinking of ways to insert spoilers and I'm trying to keep it no , I know it's hard though yeah , he he's , I don't know .
I think asoka . I think asoka was placed there by yoda to circumvent what was already happening and yoda knew .
Yeah .
I really do , because she you can see how she changes him . Oh yeah , and it was just a short period of time for him to make little decisions that he knew were wrong . And then she's like , well , why don't we do it like this ? And then he's like , okay , you know what I mean .
So so he , he's taking her advice off the bat , which you know what I mean . So he's taking her advice off the bat , which I think that's why Yoda already knew Ahsoka . Obviously , he's known her since a youngling . He knew that her bright and loud personality would kind of envelop Anakin .
I think that was his hope and they're both troublemakers and I think that by anakin , seeing how much of a troublemaker she is , he , while he's reigning her in , he's also kind of reigning himself in but she's reigning him in . But then well but then they both encourage each other , yeah , to be reckless as fuck .
Yes , but I don't , I think , I don't know if for the good , I think .
It's a great pairing .
It's a really good pairing . I like how they do it .
And I love their relationship and I love the relationship between Ahsoka and Rex , as that starts to grow as well .
And I just see her doing all these things and all it does is remind me of her being on that freaking cat and saving herself as a freaking infant that can't even speak . There you go , I mean . Infant that can't even speak there you go , I mean , she didn't even speak yet oh , sherry you're .
You're in for such a good ride , so such a good ride .
So I thought I thought that was really cute that they because you could see the same eyes as an infant she has now yep , and just with more vigor and confidence . Oh oh yeah . So obviously her leaving her family was a good thing . To be honest , I mean , I think there's some that would benefit .
Yes , because the Force is so strong with them , but the Jedi still are doing shit they shouldn't be doing .
Yeah , we're going to get into that . We're going to talk about that here in just a minute . But , louis , like you had mentioned that there were , there were some slow spots towards the end of the movie .
Like you know , the second , the second , third of it , I think like the first two thirds , I think pretty good , but that that's like half that last third basically , when we realized , for me it was like , like when they introduce , what was it ?
the other Hutt's name Zero .
Zero , yeah , yeah .
That whole thing with Zero and Padme yeah , Padme's character design in this movie was not the best .
They like showing her ass , though they did . She lost her cape . They kept pushing her down on her , on on her knees . They threw her into the cell and she fell in the cell ass up . I mean , they knew what they were doing with padme's booty but you're right , it was a little filler oh , yeah , yeah , but you know what I ?
I was just thinking about when , louis , when you had mentioned that , about it kind of being a filler and there's . You know , there's always some plot holes in star wars , anything , whether it's a tv show or a movie , it's like star wars , it's .
I don't want to say that the , the writing has always been bad , but the writing's kind of always been bad for star wars and it's , you know , and it's not so much , I think , how they get there , but it's where they're going , right , you know , so are there plot holes you know .
I mean , it's like there's plot holes , there's like there's slow spots , but I think ultimately it's about what happens at the end of that particular journey or that particular act . You know , it's not so much you know how they get there , it's just what happens at the , at the end of that or when , what happens when they get there .
What's been , what's been learned , what's been changed , you know , and it's and I think that's what we're seeing here . It's like this whole thing with Zero and Padme . It did feel unnecessary but at the same time it wasn't . It's like they had to get them there somehow .
There had to be a reason to get Anakin back to Tatooine and to have that moment between him and Ahsoka where he just will not talk about it and she knows that he's got some past history here and it's not great . So we had to get Anakin to Tatooine , we had to resolve shit . I think ultimately that's what this was about . All this stuff .
It could have been anything . It didn't have to be Jabba's son , it could have been a crate of spice .
Yeah , it could have been anything in the story .
It could have been anything , any device , but we had to get Anakin and Ahsoka to Tatooine , but we had to get Anakin and Ahsoka to Tatooine Again .
Like Louie said , they just had a hard time developing it , yeah , and it took a little longer than it probably should have , yeah .
That's all . Like this could have been like , I mean , to be honest , this probably could have not been a movie and just been like two episodes .
I thought it was a show .
So I'll be honest with you , but I mean it was a show . I'll be honest with you , but I mean it was fine . I've seen some of the more impactful arcs from the show that we're obviously going to watch and , knowing how good some of those arcs are , this movie could have been a really strong arc , like some of those later episodes . You know what I mean .
Like this just felt like a long story arc from the show that , while the introduction of the characters are important and obviously seeing the birth of this relationship between anakin and ahsoka , the overarching quest of this arc really had no major impact on the story , because I can't imagine that beyond this movie we really see the impacts of the jedi having a
strong relationship with java you know .
No , no , no , I none of that was well , I think it was just opening the trade route .
Yeah , none of that was relevant . I mean they needed it . No , no . Opening the trade route yeah , none of that was relevant . Well , I mean they needed it . No , no , no , no , Like on a world-building level . Yes , yes , they did .
Yeah , that's what I mean , and I think that's what they're trying to do .
So , yeah , that was relevant , Of course , for the war effort . That was relevant , yeah , but with really break it down , you know , into its component parts . This was Anakin and Ahsoka . That's what this movie was about . It wasn't about anything else . It was putting them in situations and getting them to start building that family between the two of them .
Well , and I think the separation of obi one and I love it .
That is such a good point . He had to get out from under obi-wan shadow .
He did yeah and I think this , this again . I think that's what yoda was trying to do to change the outcome , because I think he knows the outcome to be honest with you . He knows at least some of it . Maybe not the whole picture , but but he knows .
Yeah , he knows what's happening and that's a great point and like , if we're , if we're thinking about it from a storytelling perspective . You know , and honestly , sherry , I had never I've seen this movie so many times . I never thought about it like that . It wasn't just about anakin and ahsoka bonding .
It was getting anakin out on his own so he could grow into a teacher yes , because you know he now know , you know he can make the mistake and then be like oh shit , I have a padawan . I can't yeah , I can't be this reckless , or she's gonna die and there's no one there to hold him accountable , just himself .
He doesn't have . It's like he's got obi-wan's shadow , but he's , but obi-wan's also a safety net in some ways in some ways . Yes , so , by by the by things kind of turning out the way that they did , plot holes and all , yes , I think that this it's this movie set out to do exactly what it was supposed to do .
It was supposed to get Anakin and Ahsoka together to begin their journey , their personal journey as student and teacher . And I think it did that beautifully .
And that way , him and Obi-Wan can actually I know they're friends , but actually be friends . He's no longer your master , that's Obi-Wan now . Now that's general kenobi , but he still calls him master .
He does , and that's out of respect , but I think , well , I think that's out of love . Oh , it is of course .
Of course it is because he's , he has so much love and he has so much love , and so I think that's that's , and so I think that was the point is to pull them apart . It needed to happen .
So it's a great movie . I mean , if you really really look at it like that , in the terms of the story of Anakin and Ahsoka , this was a pivotal , pivotal movie and it was great writing .
And you can see Rex being part of it . Oh , know what I mean ?
like , yeah , he's . And it's like , you know , when you look back and you really look at rex's role in this , you know it was minimal , it was minimal but he was . He is that loyal guy , you know , loyal to a fault and not just because he's trained and programmed to be that way .
You feel that from rex , you know but I do like that ventus , or is a ventus ?
ventus , ventress , ventress , ventress is our friend sorry ventress , um , couldn't control him .
No , his mind control when he called .
I thought that was hilarious when he said anakin , where are you ?
yeah , he , he would never call no no , I love that
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and that's . That's a little and that was one of those little like you really wouldn't notice it , not , you know what I mean yeah that's great , but yeah I love , I love that getting him away from obi-wan .
I'm , I'm geeking out over that . That's fucking cool . I've never , ever , thought of it . I've never looked at it like that . It's the mom philosophy it is , and you know what , and it for me , that just changed the entire tone of the movie . So all of the little faults that you can find with the movie . Now , here's the why .
Here's the why there's always a why that plugs some of those plot holes .
I think it's like , you know we , we had to get him out of there somehow . Uh , job of the hunt , son , you know it's like okay yeah , that is whatever so and then how about um asajj and obi-wan the , the ? They had some sexual tension going on . No , they did , they did , they didn't .
He even calls her my darling oh my , my God , there was some tension . You got tension , but that's not .
Well , we need to talk about that but that's a different show . That's a different show .
That's not our only fans . No , I'm kidding . No , I did not feel that at all .
I was feeling the sexual tension between Obi-Wan and Asajj Ventress .
You guys , what do you think I ?
did not tony it was there .
I did not see it as sexual tension , but it was very clear that they had a history prior to the events of this movie , sure , and I'm curious to see that , but I don't think it was .
I don't think it was sexual I don't know , man , there was , there was some , there was some some animalistic tension there . I felt it , it she would bite off his wing . No , I don't .
She is crazy what . I would not touch that bitch with a 10-foot pole .
She likes being forced choked . There's nothing wrong with that , okay .
Oh well , that , yes , I don't think he's into it .
She's the choker . She's not the chokie . She is the choker . I don't think he's into it . She's the choker , she's not the chokie . I don't think she's into choking , but just she doesn't want to get others .
I think she's a bad girl .
She just needs somebody to put them in their place .
No , I think this is starting to go exactly where it needs to go this has gotten .
Ladies and gentlemen , we are officially bringing back Star Wars and Dicks .
Star Wars and Dicks Asajj is . Cute , though she is not , she looks gross . Ladies and gentlemen , we are officially bringing back Star . Wars and Dicks Star Wars and .
Dicks Asajj is cute , though she is not . She looks gross . She doesn't look gross , she looks dirty . Let's take a bath .
You know what ? Speaking of dirty , speaking of dirty , sexy , dirty clone boys , what the fuck the battle on Christophus when we see them just filthy ? I love seeing dirty clones . I don't know .
That's because you're a customer . Let's get that straightened out today .
It's because he's a customer , not some weird shit , those dirty boys . But what was cool when the Coruscant guards clone troopers . I don't remember what legion they're from , but when they busted in to Zero's place to rescue Padme they were clean . They were a little dusty but they were clean . But when we see our boys they're fighting , I know .
I'm just saying that's a nice touch . I mean , that's what you look like in the field .
I mean , I don't understand . I will say , though he has a good point .
There's a lot of times in animation where they completely ignore that . It's like this is your character model . We don't care what happens to you , this is your character model . So it is nice to see that they actually paid attention to that and made a difference , but that's what he's going to see .
Dirty boys he's over here acting like he's attracted and shit Calm down . It's just some weathering , Sexy dirty boys , Go get them lads , when he starts your , when he starts yours , tony , he'll be real excited to do the weathering .
No because for Tony's I got to keep it relatively clean . Hopefully he'll take advantage of that . No , because it's with the Moon Knight thing . I gotta keep it somewhat clean . Why ?
Moon Knight gets a little dirty ? No , I don't think he does I agree .
His whole thing is he's willing to take punishment in order to get close and do more damage .
Every time he summons it's a magical suit , though . Every time he summons it it goes into , like you know , but it can be in the middle , it goes what ?
Into like the dry cleaner that's in , like his body .
Yeah , it's like the ethereal dry cleaners , the whole beauty of . The whole beauty of Beskar in armor is that you can weather it Now , the cloth and everything that's part of his outfit . Yeah , that's going to be fresh . That's going to be fresh . That's going to be clean .
Sure , armored bits are going to be armored bits and they're going to take that damage and hold it I don't have any of the armored bits , I've just got the well , the chest piece is armored ?
yeah , but it's covered in the wrappings .
Listen , I think that's fine I think it should be in a battle before the dry cleaners .
That's just my take on it , do you agree , tony , though ?
I agree , or do you want it pristine ?
No , you want to just learn about it .
I know I've sent pictures of this before , but I'll send it again . The look that I'm going for from him is damaged , even his .
The look that I'm going for from him is damaged .
Even his cloak and whatnot has holes and rips in it . It's designed to be that way .
Correct A little burning . Alright , I'll burn it up , then I'll get a little flamethrower .
I'll burn it up . So , Clone Wars what are you guys thinking , Louis ? You already said it's a must-watch . Sherry wars what are you guys thinking , louis ? You already said it's a must watch sherry . What do you guys think I think it's a must ?
watch absolutely um like and you know I'm not gonna say it's a critique , it's just for me personally sure , I'm not a huge fan of this particular style of animation um I hear that a lot but I mean , I mean , that's fine , it doesn't matter , like I'm not watching it for that , I'm watching it for the story , exactly , and as far as the story is concerned ,
absolutely , you gotta watch it .
Like , how much of the Clone Wars have you seen ? None , okay . So I promise you that , because I wasn't a fan of the animation style either . I really , really liked the animation style from the micro series . That was my favorite . But I promise you that by the time you get deeper along with the Clone Wars , you're not even going to see it anymore .
You're not even going to see it . You're just going to be so invested in the characters and the storyline it's not even going to matter . So you're going to be good to go , all right it's not even going to matter .
So you're going to be good
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go . I will say and you might consider this a hot take in this case , honestly , as much as this particular style of animation was not my favorite , I sincerely prefer this much more over the micro series . As far as the animation style , my particular animation style that I prefer is more like Bad Batch .
That's the kind of animation style that I prefer is more like Bad Batch . Okay , well , it's very similar . That's the kind of animation style that I really like , but that's where this comes from .
Bad Batch evolved from the Clone Wars animation style .
I don't know , I just I like this is kind of that's the thing with this animation Like this is the first you know iteration of the animation style that we see . But by the time we get to like the last season of the vat batch , you can see how they've evolved that animation style , yeah , and how beautiful it looks .
Oh yeah , this is definitely not up to that par , but this is definitely the start of that and it's going to get there quick before you know it .
It's good stuff , alright , so Acolyte episode 7 murderers , jedi murderers well , really just one just the one , well two two , so I don't even know what to say Just the one , well , two .
I don't even know what to say . The Jedi are cops . I didn't even know they could do that I didn't even know . What the Nightsisters .
Well , I mean , they were just doing their chant and she just Vaped out . I don't even know what her name . I call her Trinity , because that's all . I know her as indara um , I mean , is that because somebody mentioned a mind bomb ?
oh , you mean , when they all died ? Yeah , yeah oh so there's , there's the this is this is a long , long time ago . It was it's , I think it's called a thought bomb well , somebody mentioned it and I think darth , I think darth bane did that . He did a thought bomb that killed everybody , including himself .
Might not have been bane , I feel like it was , but thought bomb it killed everybody on this planet or in this , this area . It was a forced thought bomb , but I don't .
It was almost like and you know , because it's trinity , it was almost like by her doing that , by by her bringing back um jedi master , that she was like disconnecting them from the matrix right and like in the matrix , like the body cannot live without the mind right , and when she clicked it , yeah , they were . Oh she unplugged them and that was it .
That was a wrap on them . I was . I thought that was dumb but I kind of liked it .
I mean it was interesting but I thought , because I like the night sisters , that was not that was not the premise .
That or not the premise , but that is not the way that I thought . All of the night sisters died . I was like what the fuck ? I thought that was cheap and I didn't care for it .
Okay , but I agree completely . I felt that it was and I know in in conversation prior to watching the episode I expressed a little concern over this that they were going to make it not as bad as it initially seemed .
And this is to me one of those things that somebody on the outside could easily justify and say well , listen , if she didn't do that Now the Wookiee was going to beat the shit out of all of them . So she had to do what she had to do . So now does it make it okay ?
to murder a Nightsister , but he's not going to kill another Jedi . See typical , typical cop behavior . Typical cop behavior .
So my question is is what ? Because they were created and they're turning into the , what was that ? Were they turning into the force ?
I don't know .
Because that was cool .
You mean when they were vaping out ? That's what I was talking about .
Oh yeah , when they were doing the yeah , but you saw the twin and I'm assuming the other twin was also doing it . Yeah , she was starting to take May . She was going to absorb them and take them away .
To get them to safety , like the mother had said yes , and she was going to give him to .
I don't even know why he pulled out his lightsaber . She wasn't doing anything to threaten them at all . The mother wasn't the other one's sure .
The other mother was absolutely threatening right , and and I will say in saul's defense , if I see one person that is very clearly threatening and I see another person turn into fucking mist , I think something bad is about to happen you're supposed to use your jedi abilities to sense and to know these things , but they straight up just broke up and broke into that
place .
They did . I'm straight up they did . It was all bullshit . The Jedi were wrong , of course they were , absolutely . It was fucked up .
Like straight up , it wasn't even like oops , we accidentally found this . No , it was indara told to slice the door , hack the door , open the door it's like you couldn't have knocked bitch right it's like they fucking like bust up into your house and say , hey , by the way , we're taking your kids so we could train them get the fuck out .
Yeah , you're getting shot uh-uh , so it was the four of them , because the council didn't even agree . No , the kids .
The council said leave them alone and I bet you yoda's on the council at this point . So they were like leave them alone , we'll observe from a distance , correct , right ?
these four motherfuckers . The question is , the way I interpreted it was that Torben basically said fuck it . After being manipulated by the witches and whatnot , he basically said listen , I want to get back home to Coruscant . I was told that we can't until we figure out the virgins . The girls are proof of the virgins .
I'm going to get them and I don't give a fuck anymore you know who Torben was . At that point , it's a question of okay . Well , if the remaining three of them are just trying to stop Torben , yes , they put themselves in a bad situation . Yes , they're still responsible for everything that happens , but I understand the motive of it .
I got you , I'm calling bullshit on all of it Torben did fuck up because he let that get in his head .
Of course Indara stood against an entire Nightsister . Coven disconnected them all from the matrix but she couldn't stop torben on that speeder bike with the force she couldn't have been like got him calm down again . That was a bad story , come on I just I can't and and please , please , please , please .
I just want someone to answer this , please for me , please . Why are these motherfuckers rock climbing and shit up the fuck ? You have the force , jump , fucking jump . Yes , use the use the force to jump . I don't , I don't understand . They don't , they don't . We see obi-wan and qui-gon do some badass shit that no one ever sees again
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. I was thinking about it the other day . Why do jedi not zip around like the fucking flash ? It's like , think about , like the flash , but with the lightsaber .
Yes , it will expend energy , most definitely , but it's because the budget doesn't call for that kind of animation that's's it , that's it .
There you go . So for something like that , I honestly think this goes back to a theory . You can just jump that motherfucker Get the fuck out of here .
What'd you say , Tony ?
I think this goes back to a theory that I have about the Force in general , and it's that the more that you use the Force's extreme abilities , the more tax it puts on your physical body and the sooner you die those they don't know those motherfuckers how luke died after after he did his . Okay , that's different that's different .
Yeah , that's a big spoiler but that's .
That's completely different . Doing what luke did versus using force jump to go up a side of a fucking mountain that's completely different , right yeah , I agree with you .
I'm just saying that , that and all kinds of shit . No , I get you , tony . I'm just saying that , that , like it's a lot of energy . I mean , if I want to , if I want to push the analogy to an extreme point yeah what luke does avoiding the spoilers is essentially the equivalent of taking a shit ton of meth . What ?
Using force push and force jump and all that is is essentially hit and hit marijuana like it's one of those things of just okay then you crash , yeah I don't know a handful of meth .
I again , this was a handful of meth so when we see yoda fight dooku and he's fucking jumping and flipping around , he must have he he hit that pipe before he went in there . That's not . That's not a walking stick . It looks like a walking stick . That's a fucking crack pipe that yoda has .
He hit that shit real quick and like and then fucking went hard on .
You know , you notice . Let's be honest . We've seen yoda living in that swamp for how long by himself . You know he smoked some good shit period .
So yeah , so , tony , what you're saying some kind of algae . What you're saying Some kind of algae . So what you're saying right now , officially , is that the Jedi use performance-enhancing drugs . Is that what you're saying ?
What is happening right now . The Force itself is a performance-enhancing drug . Of course it is .
But they're using drugs . What is happening right now ?
He said , the Force is a drug I I understand I like that . I like that analogy I know it's not , but it's freaking hilarious so the jedi use performance enhancing drugs well , so does the sith . Well , that's the sith you they , they have it with them we've need .
We've seen . We've seen no evidence of that . We've seen this in this , this earliest he's made . He's okay that he claims to be , but darth smiley . Darth smiley's living in a cave . He's got his cool hot springs .
He's eating like veggies he had like sure edibles maybe I mean he's always calm and super chill , but that's not for performance enhancing he was not calm and super chill killing people . Oh , he was defending himself .
Oh , please , he was defending , out of the woods , out of nowhere . He didn't have to go . Even you have to go there he floated down like a boss he did , he did , he came down .
He came down like a boss . All right , so anyway , we have one more episode left yeah I believe . Wrap it up predictions this that I we're gonna , we're gonna be left wanting . I can tell you that already we've got too many questions . There needs to be an entire series just on darth smiley . How did he become ?
Because one thing I noticed , because we had the , and I thought Because , what's his name ? Queefer , quiddle , quidditch ? I can't remember his name . I don't remember either .
Is it really not Queefer ? Did you say Weakway ? Who are you talking about ?
No , Weakway is .
I know who that is , who are ?
you talking about Weakway is from Return of the Jedi .
Darth Smiley . It no weak way is that's . Uh , I know who that is . Who are you talking ?
weak way is from a return of the . Just yes , I know no , darth smiley , what that's ? Something with a ? Q I can't remember , oh , his name . I have no idea what his name is . I have no idea , but , uh , kamir , okay , q I m . I r kamir kwimir .
I'm gonna call him darth smiley darth smiley's funnier I like darth smiley better , so all right , so he's commander quiefer and we're just gonna run with that then . So I want to see his story . I am so much more interested in him .
See it right now , so I know , but we , they need to .
They need to do that next , um , because the watch time for the acolyte is way , way , way way up according to the the numbers all I know , saul fucked up , leave it saul fucked I mean fucked up and what was , and I'm not .
I don't want to go down another path with this , but why are you obsessed with this child ? And it's not for her safety , you weirdo I ? What are you doing ?
I think that I mean he was obsessed yeah , he really like it was out of control . I don't think like obsessed in an inappropriate way , no , no , I don't mean it that way . I just I think something must have happened to him in in the past and he's trying to okay . Maybe something happened . He's got some mommy daddy issues clearly .
Yeah , most I feel like he saw this girl his very first time witnessing her is when she's having a fight with the twin . He can tell right away that this girl doesn't really want to be where she is . She wants something more , for whatever reason . Whatever's in his background that pulled him to her like a fucking beacon .
Yeah . But when he saw that it was becoming dangerous for both of them that's when you quit You're like okay , and the counselor was like don't do it . Wow , I mean , he , he really jacked up , he did and who paid the price ? Right now , everyone paid the price , but him .
Yeah , so far so he's , he's living with it , but he's not . I think he , I think emotionally , he's probably paying for it but .
But others died , but , like tobin , took a poison because of how guilty he felt he felt so guilty , put himself in freaking suspended animation yeah , for 16 damn years and then took a poison .
Like you know what I did fuck up my bad clunk done right , what the ? fuck . But now we know , now we know what happened . The one , the one thing that I will , the one positive thing I will say about saul is he did try to save both twins . He did , but he made a choice . He had to make a choice , I think , or he would have lost both of them .
But at the same time , I feel like like how , how weak are these people in the force Again ? Indara couldn't stop Torben from riding away on a bike , but she can kill , but she can she can disconnect everybody from the matrix with her . her mental abilities Correct . And how is it that this Jedi night , matt , he's a master , I believe .
How could he not use the force to hold up two young girls ?
Correct Because , according to Yoda , size matters , size matters .
So he should have been able to grab both of them , correct .
But and pull them towards him .
Right . But he consciously made a choice to catch , catch to to go for osha , correct . And even when she was falling , he didn't use the force to catch her , he grabbed her yeah this is part of the thing like , like when .
Even when he was struggling , trying to hold both of them , it wasn't that he was trying to hold them . He was trying to hold whatever bridge or whatever it was that they were on .
Yeah , but that's dumb If we want to call this just Poor choice Plot hole . It's a device .
The smarter way to do it is to do what you're suggesting grab the girls themselves , as opposed to trying to hold the thing , but that wouldn't fit the story .
It wouldn't . And I , I get it , but it's just seriously . And then I'm curious when may fell , where did she go and what happened , because obviously she's still alive now . Did she use her vanishing ability or she could have vaped out ? Well , that's what I'm thinking , because that's the only way I mean but she was also very , very angry .
She was and she is very strong , she , I mean she could have used the force to slow herself down or to stop herself completely . I really think she did the vaping she could have vaped out , or Darth Smiley might have been there well , she started vaping without the mother at one point , didn't she ? No , no , no , no . The mother , as she was vaping out .
Mae was starting to vape out too .
No , I know , but I thought she did it .
I don't think so .
I don't remember . I don't recall you might be right . I don't recall it .
Yeah , maybe Okay .
Maybe I was thinking of something else , but anyway . So predictions for the last episode , and then we'll wrap up for the night . What do you guys think ? Episode eight the acolyte . Again not a terrible story , I . I think it's on par with like the same things that we were kind of bugged about talking about um , the clone wars movie , in terms of plot holes .
We're seeing those things here . So that's why I won't complain about things like that with the acolyte , because it's on par with all other star wars . Okay , so go anyway . Predictions for the last episode .
Episode eight daddy louis I don't know so much predictions as much as what I think I would like to see . In this case , I want to see perhaps a cameo from a little green man .
As far as predictions go , I I predict that that we will still have questions when the show is over with um , because I think that at least that maybe it's not in the cards now , but at some point in time the show was designed to be multi-season , yeah , um , so I am concerned that we're not going to get a full closure to the story we do hope I'm .
I'm enjoying um the the possibility of it tying into you know the Skywalker stuff , whether it be subtly through you know , learning more about how life can be created through midichlorians . I like Tobin , you know saying M count .
I liked that a lot actually , because I like these new shows quote , unquote , fixing or retconning and adding to what we already know and love in the series . You know what I mean .
I agree , Tony . What do you think ? Any predictions
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also predict that we are not going to get a full ending to the story by the end of this next episode . I agree , I agree . My fear is that I mean basically speaking . Now we've had both the third and the seventh . Now episodes basically be entirely in flashback and both looking at the same exact period in time , but from different perspectives .
I am slightly concerned , yes , from different perspectives . I am slightly concerned that this next episode is going to be that exact same story , but now from smiley's perspective , and we're not going to get anywhere further in the actual story . We're just going to see that . All right , all right . So that's my fear .
Now my hope is that we see the Jedi Council made aware of everything that actually happened and see some actual accountability . I don't have a lot of faith that that's going to happen , because in the history of Star Wars it rarely ever happens . But that's going to happen because in the history of Star Wars it rarely ever happens , but that's my hope .
Alright , alright , sherry .
Well , I want to know , obviously , what happens to May , and is that when she meets Darth Smiley , it should have been May . But yeah so I'm curious to that effect too , with with darth smiley , if he's going to be in this uh last episode . But um , and I , and I don't know what the convergence is the virgins .
The con , the convergence , it's the virgins the virgins yeah uh , you know what does it entail and how did you make people ?
well , and that's that's cool too , because I think they talk about that in the phantom menace , don't ? They doesn't qui-gon talk about a virgins in the force yeah yeah so the one that will bring that's .
You know , I sense a virgins in the force and that's when Mace says you know , you refer to the one that will bring balance to the force .
So is a vergence . Just some woman getting pregnant .
Well , they did talk about , remember ? They talked about how potentially they were one being that were split into two .
And that is crazy , because you're never going to get the same on each side , obviously so is it like that ?
I mean , is it almost like where , like one of them is quote unquote dark side , the other one is quote , unquote , light side , and they split them apart so they wouldn't be as powerful as anakin ?
well , no , because they were saying there's a destiny for them , even the council yeah thought there was a destiny because she said that they're gonna die so they there's no doubt about that they're gonna die I don't know . You know , I think they would have came together in their little vapor form , uh , some way . So I think I .
I think they're one person already . To be honest , it's like jekyll and hyde , except they separated jekyll and hyde . Um , that's the only way I can think about it . So but yeah , I'm just curious to know about you know about really how they came to be I think we'll learn that I yeah , um , you know . So , okay , and that's really it .
I mean , I think it's an interesting story I think we're gonna learn that .
I think we're gonna learn how , how they came to be in some way . Maybe it might be vague , but we're gonna have a little bit better understanding , right ? But I I do think that we're gonna see them as one being that was split into two , because I've already alluded to that right , that's what I'm saying .
Maybe they're supposed to . That was the whole point of you know getting the mark .
Maybe you know but they got to keep them separate . Got to keep them separated but for whatever reason , the mother was gonna let them separate for a minute . So she knew something maybe for the greater good ? I think so . Maybe for the greater good . They cannot . They can't be one being as one being . They would be way too powerful .
So maybe that's why they were split maybe as one being yeah , so I've had this theory for a few weeks now and I'm I want to run it by you guys here . So the whole thing , with the witches as a whole , they're constantly repeating the power of one , the power of two , the power of medic .
Yeah , now I tend to look at it as the power of one is a reference to the jedi , is a reference to the quote-unquote light side of the force , where the whole thing is being one with the force . The power of two is a reference to the Sith and the rule of two and their whole belief system .
And the power of many is rejecting both of those theories and not being good or bad , just being what they are . Yeah , and , quite frankly , considering the faults that I've seen in both the jedi and the sith throughout the course of star wars , maybe they have a point correct and maybe this whole thing was . You know , they started as one being .
They split into beings . Maybe the eventual purpose was to keep splitting them into more and more .
Because that was another thing that we were talking about as well was speaking of splitting and things like that . The Jedi had said that the witches don't raise children , so it was odd that they would even have children in their presence , because they're not known to raise children . Also don't keep company with men . So how do they procreate ? How do the ?
How do the covens do they ? Just , is it just ? You know , women from different ? I mean , obviously there's , we did see different species of witches in there . I when they were , when they were all doing the whole no , I think tony's right , or or do they come off of like they , they split , they do uh no , I , I don't .
I think they create out of one another , through in the force no , I think they're jedi , or you know , they're force sensitive creatures I'll see .
I and I think that . Like to get back to the theory of what a vergence is , considering the two times that we specifically heard her mention . I think a vergence is the force actively choosing to create something out of nothing .
Correct . So the force chooses that itself Correct . I like that theory .
I like that theory a lot , yeah , and there's a reason for it , so I think you're right .
Instead of people using the Force , like the Jedi or the Sith or in this case , these covens , using the Thread . It's the Force itself saying , hey , there's something that needs to be here and I'm going to create it .
Needs to be fixed , and so I think the force created a , a child , whether that be may or OSHA or some combination of the two , and the witches , knowing that they don't want one , knowing that they don't want to split the being that the force created into may and OSHA and perhaps eventually had want to split the being that the force created into may and OSHA
and perhaps eventually had plans to split it further .
Oh , maybe that one's far , but I , but I , I , I , I like that explanation of the Jedi one , the two , the Sith , and then , because you're they , there's a lot of force sensitive out there that are not Jedi , that are not Sith .
Right .
So why wouldn't they come together and be like , what are they doing ? Because they weren't doing anything . They were in the woods practicing their craft and doing nothing . It's like the witch trials all over . Do you see what I'm saying ? Yeah , they weren't bothering anybody .
They were out there doing their thing and whatever the vergence was , either drew them to that planet , because that planet was dead , according to the Jedi .
Right .
And now the vergence created the whole planet and either the baby or the what you know right however , it was split , so I think the witches came to take care of these children maybe I mean I don't think that was her .
I mean maybe she carried it , you know , maybe it's possible that , like , okay , like we know , based on what they said in the show , we know that , um , a vergence is , like you know , like a highly concentrated uh force , energy , right that's centered around a location . That's what indara had said .
Um well , and there was that hole there could be um . Yeah , there was that hole so is that where the virgins happened ? And that's why now they're worshiping ? There ?
right , um , there was , uh , I um it wasn't . It was an empire strikes back , so maybe we shouldn't talk about it . There was a virgins there in empire strikes back . There was a virgin , so a virgins , not a virgin well , we'll get there there was a virgin too .
I'm assuming luke was a virgin at that time um , he didn't get those power converters he didn't get the power converters and he did not get a chance to hook up with leia , so ew , which is good because , they would have had some cross-eyed babies anyway , which , ironically , is also a vergence when , with your eyes , that's uh , in in the real world terminology ,
when both your eyes like , focus on , like the same thing at the same time , if you're cross-eyed or whatever it's , it's considered okay , let's move on now so it all all works . It all comes back to Star Wars . I love it . All right , all right , we'll wrap it up . My prediction is that that OSHA is going to kill Saul .
I think that's going to happen , okay , I think once she , once she finds out the truth that he murdered her mother , I think that's going to . She's going to be it , that's gonna be it . She's gonna snap and then maybe in that moment , if her and may are in close proximity , they're gonna vape up together and form one being .
They are going to be a virgins unto themselves and they are going to form one incredibly powerful being . Um , that could potentially be too powerful to exist like wonder twins wonder twin powers activate ? unite yeah , but I think , I think that she might .
She might end up inadvertently killing herself because she keeps too powerful , too powerful to exist , and osha will live no , no , I don't think uh I think she needs to live I think what might happen just to make somebody's mom .
No , she might like I think if one lives , I think that neither one of I think they can't serve one , can't survive without the other . Yeah , you're right .
I agree , or if , for whatever reason , one of them does survive . If osha survives , she'll something will happen . She'll lose her memory and then she'll just go maybe she'll be a farmer or a truck driver . Absorb maybe truck driver they have space trucks it's fine a freighter pilot . So I I think that's what's gonna happen .
I think , I think okay I think osha's gonna kill sol . Okay , and through that act , her and may are going to essentially do the whole ascension thing that they were supposed to do together . Um , they're going to merge , become one incredibly powerful being that may burn itself out was that the ?
was that the ceremony they were doing ?
the ascension ceremony . Maybe they were that ascension was for them to combine .
Maybe I don't know I didn't even think about that .
I don't know okay , I don't know , we'll see what happens . All right , that's gonna do it for us this week . Thank you for joining us next week . My little succulents , your homework is to watch episodes one through four , season one of the clone wars spoiler .
There's a couple filler episodes and I think , like , of the four episodes , I think four of them are filler , but or it's going to feel like filler , it's , they're , they're fleshing out the the world season one .
I will admit I've seen the first episode of it many times and I like a lot . Of course you do of course you do .
I know exactly why you like it's . Don't spoil it , it's sweet . We'll just say that it's sweet . I don't want to call it it's not a filler episode , it's . It's building out the the world um worth watching . There . There will be , there will be episodes of the clone wars that are not worth watching .
Just read the wiki on those if you need to , or forget they exist . It's fine , but we're still going to do it all together . It'll be a good time . We'll see what happens , um , all right , so that is it . Make a drinking game on . Yeah , we , yeah , we need a Clone Wars drinking game .
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Nope , just have a good weekend .
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I actually woke up . You can suck it all right .
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