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Darth Smiley and the Review Bombs

Jul 06, 20241 hr 17 minSeason 2Ep. 1
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This week we kick off our new season of Star Wars Sucks with a look back at last season and sneak peak at what we've got coming up. 

We're also talking about episodes 4, 5, and 6 of everyones "favorite" Star Wars tv series, The Acolyte. 

We take a deeper look at the Force and discuss how manipulation operates on both the Light and the Dark sides. All that and more this week, on Star Wars Sucks! 

Homweork for next week: The Clone Wars animated movie.

May the Force be with you, even if sometimes it sucks!

Follow us on social media @TheSWSShow. Once we get our poodoo together, you'll find show clips, behind-the-scenes shenanigans, Star Wars news, memes, updates, and more!

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Star Wars Recap and Discussion

Speaker 1

Hey , this week on Star Wars sucks , we're going to be recapping what happened in our last season , if anybody cares . Looking ahead at our new season , if anybody cares , and getting caught up with the Acolyte and I know everybody cares about that .

Speaker 2

No , I mean , I care .

Speaker 1

Where's my ? I care , you need to put it on your camera . It's a camera situation . Anyway , all that and more coming up this week on Star Wars . Sucks , stick around . Hey , there we go . Howdy succulents , welcome to star wars . Sucks , your non-toxic , low sodium star wars show . That doesn't make you feel bad for not knowing that job of the huts .

Palace was actually an old Bomar monk monastery and the monks were still wandering around the monastery . They were the , the little spider leg brain in the jar creatures and a job . I'll let him walk around in there because he he liked that . They looked freaky and horrific . It just kind of added to the vibe of the palace .

So he was right he would have freaked me out . They of the palace , so he was right , he would have freaked me out . They're pretty awesome . So there you go . So , whether you're a hardcore fan or just a little swarzy curious , this is your Star Wars safe place .

We are the Circle of Nerds and we do absolutely love Star Wars , even if we don't always like it . So let's go around the room and meet the team , shall we ? So , to my left , your right star of stage and screen , it is the sensational sherry hello I have my applause button . I know that's fine , everybody does that . It it's okay .

And from the Outer Rim territory of Bofduin , it's Daddy Louie .

Speaker 2

Hello children .

Speaker 1

And we were just there a couple of weeks ago and now you're not , and now we're not . So just yeah , like a couple of weeks ago .

Speaker 2

You were right there .

Speaker 1

You were all here , somebody else ?

Speaker 2

was right there and I was over there . You were all here . Somebody else was right there , I was over there .

Speaker 1

And now everyone's gone .

Speaker 3

All alone , all by yourself .

Speaker 1

Don't want to be all by yourself anymore .

Speaker 2

All right .

Speaker 1

That's a wrap All right , thanks for this week . Everyone , and hailing from parts unknown , it's t to the oni welcome back to the guy everybody yeah , love it . And I am tommy d . You're more than slightly obnoxious . Star wars know it all . And uh , that's us . Well , what was that face ? What you drinking there ?

I'm drinking some uh corona drinking , drinking a little giggle juice , little giggle , some loud mouth soup no , no juice Some loudmouth soup . No , no , yes , yes , I know All right . So what are we doing here ?

Our mission is to watch all of the canon Star Wars films and TV shows in chronological order , breaking them down , connecting the dots and learning a little more about ourselves and Star Wars . So it'll be fun . And warning y'all , there are going to be spoilers . So it'll be fun , and warning y'all , there are gonna be spoilers . So please be aware of that .

Uh , if you're not caught up , and we'll let you know where we're at in our viewing pleasure here in just a moment . So if you're not caught up , uh , just do , please be aware there will be spoilers . So , uh , a note on bby aby we use those terms quite a bit on here and , uh , that is how we kind of keep track of things on the Star Wars timeline .

The events in Star Wars A New Hope , the very first Star Wars film , which released in 1977 , those events are considered year zero on the timeline .

So anything that happens before that , like the events of the Acolyte , that is , bby before the Battle of Yavin , and anything happening after , is ABY , for after the Battle of the acolyte , that is , bby before the battle of yavin , and anything happening after is aby , for after the battle of yavin .

So of course we're talking about when we do talk about the acolyte , yeah , we're talking about things that happened . What I think they said like 132 bby , I think it was , it's like 100 years prior to the events of the Phantom Menace , I believe is what they're saying it is . So if you are a new fan , welcome . If you're a little swarzy , curious , welcome .

If you're a longtime Star Wars fanatic , welcome to the show . And yeah , let's get into it . So first we're going to talk about last season a little bit . What we covered , uh , we started out with young jedi adventures and we moved through to , um , not quite the beginning , well , just to the beginning of the clone wars .

So we talked about , uh , the phantom menace . We talked about attack of the clones . Um , we talked about the really , really , really good star wars micro series which we all got to watch together . Um , right there that's right now . There's no one there and now there's no one oh so that was great .

So , uh , if you , if you want to get caught up , listen to our uh , our last season I think it's like seven episodes , so you can get burned through that in a sitting . You can binge us , so you can check us out on your favorite podcast platform or on our YouTube channel , wherever you decide you want to catch up . So what is your ?

Uh , where does everybody feel they're at right now in terms of the star Wars storyline , like the greater overall star wars storyline ? You know where we're at . We again , we started with the young jedi adventures and we're just about to jump into the clone wars and you know we got to see some really cool things .

Sherry , you had some some cool count dooku revelations . You know it was . You got , you got a little more personal insight into Count Dooku , which was really , really cool for you .

Speaker 4

I just think we're just I don't know , I'm just learning stuff now about Star Wars .

Speaker 1

You know what I mean .

Speaker 4

Like some depth stuff .

Speaker 1

Yeah , Now for you , specifically because Tony and Louie and I we've watched Star Wars a couple times , a little bit here and there . You've experienced Star Wars through osmosis . Well , no , I've watched a lot , you've watched quite a bit , but obviously you haven't gone . You don't read all the books , you only know what you see on the screen .

I would say you're probably a casual fan level , or or you know maybe a little bit more . I think you have more knowledge than the average , Like .

Speaker 4

I do the casual thing , yeah , only because I'm around .

Speaker 1

Right . So so now , with that in mind , so , so , last season , all the things that we talked about , what was kind of like the standout moment for you , what was , what was you ? You know , because we did , we again we got to see the young jedi , which was kind of fun . It's kind of cool . I think we all liked it more than we thought we were going to .

It was a lot of fun . Tony created an awesome drinking game that I think we need to revisit and maybe do that live at some point . We need to like do a young jedi adventures marathon yes , yes , please sign me up with tony's drinking game . Maybe we'll do that in between our season break . Let me write that down , I'm going to forget it .

What are some of your standout moments ?

Speaker 4

I think the turn of Count Dooku . I don't know , we've watched so much that yeah um , really for me it was . It was him when he was standing there and , um , oh my god , qui-gon died and you can just see the he was already turning , but when that happened , I think it just something snapped in his brain it was that , yeah whole .

Speaker 1

You know he was already kind of disillusioned with the Jedi Order .

Speaker 4

And then killing basically his first .

Speaker 1

Jedi Right , and now seeing what you've seen in the Acolyte , and now we're starting to connect those dots , you know that , the disillusionment of the jedi order , even a hundred , a hundred plus years later . And then we're looking at . You know what we're seeing .

We're seeing the jedi order in terms of , like , cover-ups and you know things like that and saul keeping secrets we'll get more into that later . But I mean , are you , are you starting to kind of see and feel these dots connecting ?

Speaker 4

I think it's rough , it's I don't want to say it's repeating , but it it feels a little repetitive to me . Okay , and and I don't mean that in a bad way , because I like the show , I think it's very good . Um , I think it's very interesting , but , um , and is he supposed to be like the first sif ? Is that ? No , no , no you know what I mean .

So I don't know . So that's what I'm saying . Yeah , I don't know , um , I don't know .

Speaker 1

I just think it's a little repetitive but because it's the same , the same themes , we're seeing these , you know , the the light versus the dark . But like we're also seeing that you know the jedi are are not infallible . The Jedi are not perfect .

Speaker 4

I think we've known that . I think this is just a I don't know . Like I said , I don't think it's a bad show , but I don't think it was a necessary show .

Speaker 1

Oh , that's a hot take . Okay , we're going to hang on to that . I want to explore that . That's a hot take . I need a hot take button .

Speaker 2

I don't know .

Speaker 1

What is this button ? I don't have a hot , take that was it ?

Speaker 2

That was it Just record . Just take that little snippet out , there you go .

Speaker 1

That's like my bullet ricochet sound effect .

Speaker 4

Right , no Okay .

Speaker 2

Sounds like a sick cat .

Speaker 1

I know . So , sherry , please , please , right , no , okay that's like a sick cat , I know so . So , sherry , please , please , don't forget that , because we're I do want to touch on that and I I will probably forget about it as we get further on into the show . But okay , um , it's interesting because it's like as we're seeing all this stuff evolve .

You know , I I'm almost starting to see um obWan . When we see Obi-Wan in , this is jumping a little bit ahead . But when we see Obi-Wan in A New Hope , when audiences see Obi-Wan for the very first time , I almost feel like Obi-Wan at that time is a cautionary tale about the Jedi , just how far they've fallen .

Speaker 4

I mean , like we you know , whatever , whatever , what do you guys think ? Because I , yeah , I agree .

Speaker 2

I agree 100 about what you just that's , that's a great , because if you think about it , where we're at now in the acolyte I think we talked about this before , like it was right , there's what did they say ?

Thousands of younglings , like , yeah , and saul was talking to to osha , you know , there's thousands of children , um and that's not including the knights and the masters .

So if there's thousands of younglings and how many knights and masters are out there , right , which goes just like you were saying when , when obi-wan is talking to luke in that cave , he's , he's , he's it . I mean him and yoda , right , yeah , so , so yeah , you're absolutely right , he is the . Yeah , that's wild so all right .

Speaker 1

So today let's let's talk about , um , season one of star wars sucks , and where you know the journey that we're on right now .

Um , as , as we've been watching it in this order because we've we've seen all these things out of order before , so now that we're watching them in order , has there been anything that you felt so far has been , you know , more impactful or maybe a revelation that maybe you didn't catch on the first time that you watch these things ?

Maybe watching them in order , have have things like opened up ? Have you had any like moments of clarity or anything like that ?

Speaker 2

honest , honestly , honestly , I'm with Sherry . Like the , the Dooku stuff , like just those little episodes , those short episodes of um was the tales of the Jedi , I mean they really just like it's .

It's crazy how it , just a few minutes of a , of a cartoon , of storytelling good storytelling can really open up , you know , I mean completely changes an entire character . Like that it's just right .

Yeah , Because I think for me that's the first time that I've watched it fit in the order of stuff , right , like I I've seen , I'm pretty sure I've seen all of those episodes before at other times , sure , of course , but watching it right before Attack of the Clones and then right after Attack of the Clones , with that character that you're familiar with , for

only a few minutes . We don't see Dooku very much at all in live action .

Obviously , we're going to see him a lot , probably in the Clone , the clone wars , but as somebody who hasn't seen the clone wars , like myself , really this was even more impactful because this is again all that I know of dooku is the few minutes that we see him in the films and now this .

So I think that watching it in order with those is great he's like count douchebag .

Speaker 1

I mean , that's what we , that's what we no , no , no , but he's not anymore . That's what I'm saying , like that's what we've known , like , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah to seeing as a bad guy , right , yeah , yeah , he's just just , you know , another pawn , he's just another tool and he is but there's a reason .

But he's got depth Right , like so much depth , and it's great . I agree , I love it , I love it , I love it . T to the Oni . How about you ? What are you thinking about the first season of Star Wars Direct and the journey that we've been on so far ?

Speaker 3

So for me , I guess , even going back all the way to Young Jedi Adventures , what this first season has really shown me and what I've experienced from it , is complacency from the Jedi , Like you know , when you consider that you know even going back to presumably 230 BBY , if we're going back that far for Young Jedi , which I think is right in the time scheme ,

yeah , like 230 , 232 , something like that . Like even back then , the Jedi were a powerful enough known force in the universe . I know it's a kid's show , but just following the logic of train here .

Speaker 1

The themes are still there .

Speaker 3

You could literally have children travel around the galaxy by themselves and just say well , they're force adept , so they're going to be fine .

Discussing the Jedi and Ahsoka

Right , what arrogance you know Really and to go from there and and continue on this . You know it's very clear from what we've seen in the acolyte that they are trying to keep it under wraps . The sit , that there's even a threat of sith out there .

Um , they're just , they are so complacent in their power that they've allowed everything to happen that has happened so far . And I mean it reminds me of some real-world things that you know it's a different show . I'm not going to get into that , but there are parallels that kind of make me go . This is a problem and somebody needs to address it .

Yep , it's just the complacency of it , I mean , essentially speaking , for all the time that we've experienced it thus far . I mean , the Jedi are basically acting as cops .

Yeah , they're space police and , again , just like in real life , there are parts where they take advantage of that authority and there are things that they do that you know they might , you know , might have the right idea , but the way they go about it is problematic and , yeah , not good yeah , and we're definitely we're going to dive into that , because once we

get to the acolyte section of the show today , I definitely want to dive into that more because you're absolutely right , those parallels between you know , today , you know things going , things happening today yeah you know , but what ?

Speaker 4

and they're hiding the bad from the new ones , yeah , from each other . They had no idea what a sith yeah , um , it was . That's ridiculous , right ? You should still know . You should still be ready and know that there is a dark side , and I feel like they don't want to tell them the dark side .

They don't want to tell them that there is one , because they'll think , well , they're going to use it . Well , no , they're going to figure it out . Duh , they're children . That's how life works .

Speaker 1

You have to teach them both ways , and they need to make a decision and if we're looking at it in terms of , like the timeline , you know , obviously , you know acolyte acolyte came out after we already started the show , otherwise we would have started our podcast with the Acolyte . Holy shit , you know .

I mean honestly we probably should have waited until the Acolyte came out , but you know we were excited . It's fine . But like , if we're looking at it on a timeline level and if we can kind of suspend our own knowledge that we have we've at this point in the timeline the canon timeline anyway , we've never seen anything like Darth Smiley before .

Speaker 3

No .

Speaker 4

I mean , what the fuck ?

Speaker 2

Is that what we're calling him , darth Smiley ?

Speaker 1

I don't know . We can call him whatever we want .

Speaker 2

I like it .

Speaker 4

I don't want to dive too much into the Acolyte just yet , but I think I like it I like it , the actual name I mean .

Speaker 1

So I don't like , I don't want to dive too much into the acolytes yet , but you know , I think that anyway we'll get there , we'll get there .

So so , season one of our show definitely , if you're , if you're just now listening tuning in to this particular episode , go back , have a listen to the other shows , get caught up with us , and we only had that little bit of ahsoka a little bit , a little , tiny bit a little taste a little . I love her a little oh , oh oh I'm so excited for you .

I'm so excited for you , sherry , I know you do , I know , but I am so excited for you to see her growth in the Clone Wars because there's a lot that you haven't seen . Like we watched the Ahsoka series together , we did so . You get old Ahsoka , you've already got like old , jaded , beaten , ptsd . Ahsoka . You've got hard , hard , hard-edge Ahsoka .

You've got hard , hard , hard edge . Ahsoka . You don't have bright , fresh , new hey sky guy . Ahsoka , you don't have that .

Speaker 4

I know some of it , but I think , even though I like Dooku's story , I think that episode was my favorite .

Speaker 1

Yeah , of course she's a badass , are you kidding me ? She's an infant . She tamed and controlled . Are you kidding ? Me , she's an infant and she controlled that . A giant saber tooth tiger yes .

Speaker 4

That's impressive . You know what I mean At that age .

Speaker 1

I am so excited for you to see this Because it's going to make what you know and I'm so glad that we're doing this way Because , as you see , ahsoka , because she really does as we dive into the Cloneoka , because she really does as we dive into the clone wars , she really does have one of the best arcs , I think , of any character in the star wars franchise

in terms of growth as a character .

She is probably one of one of the the deepest characters , um , in the star wars franchise , just because when we see her , you know for the very first time which is going to be our homework , by the way when we see her for the very first time , she's just so full of hope and exuberance and just big , bright eyes and just ready to go .

And you know , but she's been . But we also know at this point that she's been fed all of this you can do anything jedi arrogance for her whole life .

Speaker 4

So she's she has , but like just watching her mother with her . I think she did have some time with her , so I think that helped of course , her character .

Speaker 1

I think I think it does it's . It's a nice way to start off um watching the ahsoka character grow . You see her as an infant .

Speaker 4

So yes , of course no , but I'm just saying like because I know some stuff . Yeah , she gets older and you can see her using that wisdom .

Speaker 1

As we go through the Clone Wars , as we go through Rebels . Oh , it's just , I'm so happy , louis and Tony , you guys haven't seen all of the Clone Wars . Louis , you haven't seen any Rebels , have you ? Maybe a couple episodes here and there .

Just a couple episodes here and there , just a couple episodes here and there yeah , tony , uh , none of rebels okay , sherry , have you seen maybe a couple episodes ? yeah , so probably a few um , and I have not even seen the entire rebels series .

Okay , so I'm I'm looking forward to that , but I but there's , there's so much with Ahsoka and it's just , oh , my heart , my heart , it's just , I can't stand it . I love it , okay , so , anyway . So that's season one . Go back , watch or listen to our other seven episodes in our season one .

Get caught up to where we are , because now that we are starting season two of star wars sucks . We are moving into what is going to be probably our largest chunk of star wars and that is the clone wars , and we are going to be starting . This is going to be homework for everyone .

Star Wars , the Clone Wars animated series movie now , now in real life so sorry that was me having a heart attack in real

Discussion of Star Wars and Ahsoka

life . A lot of people did not like this movie . However , it's a very important film and not for cinema . It's not important . It's not high cinema . No , star Wars is high cinema .

Speaker 2

It's not a great film . It's an important part of the story .

Speaker 1

It's an important part of the story . Yes , sir , Absolutely so . Again , it's our first introduction to Rex like five percent of it .

Speaker 2

Watch it with open eyes .

Speaker 1

Yes , watch it with fresh eyes . Watch it with fresh eyes going in it , because I think the biggest problem that people had was stinky . I think that was the biggest issue people had a problem with stinky . If you don't know who stinky is , you'll you're gonna know , you're gonna find out who stinky is .

I don't want to spoil anything , but um he stinks , by the way , in case that wasn't but we get like pig pen . This , the movie , sets the tone for the entire animated series . It introduces us to the most pivotal characters . It introduces us to and what , in my opinion , are some of the best versions of longtime classic characters .

This is my favorite version of anakin skywalker in in the clone wars animated .

Speaker 4

I didn't care for cry a lot I didn't know .

Speaker 1

No , I mean he's , he's , he is a . He's a young man who's struggling to find his place in the galaxy , and it's done in a way that doesn't make you want to smack the shit out of him , right so ?

Speaker 4

again . Get some power computers like why are you always crying ?

Speaker 1

but that's , you know what . I know . That's not him , I know , but but that's where luke gets it from . Luke is know when theyies his , you know he's . We already know about his relationship with padme , so the two of them are trying to balance that um , while being part of a galactic war . Um , it's , it's a , it's a great series .

It's just a great television show . It really really is .

It's got filler episodes and we'll talk about those filler episodes , of course , um , but so , moving forward , so we're going to start with that and then each week from there on , we're going to be hitting four episodes , um of the show , per episode of our podcast we're going to be watching , for , you know , basically it's like two hours .

Well , each episode is like 22 minutes long , so so , not quite two hours , but you know that's that's going to be our time commitment and then we'll come back and talk about it . So is there anything that ?

So now , knowing that we're only going to be looking at the the Clone Wars movie and season one of the Clone Wars animated series , that's what we're going to be doing . Coming up this season on star wars sucks . Now , is there anything that you guys are looking forward to ? Um , anything that you're looking forward to maybe seeing learning anything like that .

Speaker 3

Questions that might be answered so I do have one question , um , because from what I have read , like I said , I have not seen any of the stuff , but from what I have read , and , like I said , I have not seen any of this stuff .

Speaker 1

But from what I have read , the episodes in order are not necessarily correct as far as the timeline is concerned . For the most part they are For what we're doing . Yeah , it's not . There's like if it like basically everything in the clone wars takes place between attack of the clones or revenge of the sim .

So that's that's what we're , that's what we're concerned with . So everything takes place between the two movies , between episode episode two and three of Star Wars . You are right .

Speaker 2

There are some episodes that do jump around . Is it like there's one episode with the clones ? That's like a flashback of some of them in training and stuff together , but I don't think that there's any big story changes .

Speaker 3

As long as it doesn't make an impact as to well , I was supposed to have known this prior . Then it's fine . No , um , no nothing like nothing like that at all .

Speaker 1

Um , um , and it's nice too , because we're gonna end up eventually . We're gonna see I don't want to say anything else we're gonna see a lot of cool shit . We're gonna see a lot of cool shit , um , and you know we've . We've also got , I think , andor . Season two is coming out pretty soon .

Uh , we've got skeleton crew coming out pretty soon , which I'm excited about . Um , the skeleton crew ship , the lego , was leaked recently , so now we know what the , what their ship looks like , which is a really cool like um vtol , you know , vertical takeoff and landing type of craft . Almost looks kind of like a drop ship sort of thing . It's pretty cool .

So curious to see how that that show is going to play out .

Speaker 4

I think it'll be fun I thought you were like that's a lego movie , like no , no , no , no , it's just the .

Speaker 1

The lego , yeah , the lego set for the ship oh , it was was put out . So people , yeah , so I . So that was , I guess , kind of a spoiler and that shows some of the characters that are going to be . I've been actively staying away from anything to anything to do with skeleton crew , because I'm really .

When I first heard that it was announced , um , it sounded very interesting . It sounded like piratey .

Speaker 2

Is it a live action ?

Speaker 1

I think so yeah , um I didn't even know about it , so from when I , when I first heard about it , it sounded like something that was going to be , yeah , a little more fun , funny , scoundrelly , you know that sort of thing .

Speaker 4

Um it almost sounds like um the the star trek , uh animated , oh , lower decks , lower decks .

Speaker 1

It kind of sounds yeah , similar to that yep , yeah , and I think it's going to be . Uh , oh , yeah , it is live action . It's going to be live action . So , yeah it , it looks fun . It's supposed to be coming out um sometime this year . I don't know if it's cool . Um , yeah , down jude law is going to be in it .

So that's a big , uh , big name in there . All right so so the acolyte let's get caught up . Acolyte episodes four , five and six . So in these episodes a lot happened , so much a lot happened . I mean damn oof , a lot happened , I would . I think . I think it's safe to say that these are probably the best three episodes of the series so far .

Agreed , I guess , in terms of action , action-packed Pee-Wee .

Speaker 4

Action-packed Pee-Wee . What I like is no fillers . It's very nice and I know it's a new series , but it's nice because you're getting something from each episode .

Speaker 1

So , rather than dissecting each episode because we could do a whole show on each episode um , just like a quick , a quick recap . You know , we we've . We see soul and his team hitting the planet kofar looking for jedi master .

Speaker 3

Jedi Master .

Speaker 1

And we already know that shit's going to go sideways because we don't know the names of any of the other Jedi . They're all red shirts . If you get the Star Trek reference , they're all red shirts . If I don't know your name , you're going to die . However , however however , they fucking pulled a Game of Thrones on us .

Speaker 4

I am not happy it was like the Jedi , Red Wedding Wait what I was like oh .

Speaker 1

Jackie , jackie , jackie Yordo , whatever he's whatever . Yord . Yeah , whatever , it's okay . He was kind of a dick .

Speaker 4

Yeah , he was too arrogant . That was his fault , but she was but .

Speaker 1

Jackie . Jackie handled her business and he fucked her up too .

Speaker 2

It wasn't even like .

Speaker 1

He prison shanked her . I mean he was like he fucking got her three times in prison .

Speaker 4

And she , she got out of it .

Speaker 1

She handled her fucking business .

Speaker 4

She really well yeah .

Speaker 1

She fucked him up .

Speaker 4

I was sad with that episode .

Speaker 1

Jackie was shocking , that was shocking . I did not did not see that coming .

Speaker 4

I , I almost cried and I we we've only been watching this for like a second she got a hold of that second lightsaber .

Speaker 1

She got a hold of lightsaber , yeah , and handled her business as a padawan .

Speaker 2

She's a fucking padawan yeah , can we talk about how May killed Master Inara , but fucking Jackie destroyed May in a fight , destroyed May .

Speaker 4

Well , I think it's because she knew what had happened and we still don't . So it could be she let her guard down . It could be Because of what happened , whatever happened .

Speaker 1

You know what , and that's a good point . But you know , I also think that inara wasn't trying to sauce may . No , jackie was trying . Jackie was , I mean she was trying to make that arrest . I don't all right . So , all right , jackie wasn't trying to sauce may . Necessarily she was was trying to make that arrest . She wanted it .

And Inara was still just trying to be cool . She was trying to be cool , little Zen Master Trinity and she was trying to hold back and she got it . She got got . But Jackie wanted it , she wanted that notch on her lightsaber , she wanted that arrest . She was like and I'm sure it's somewhere in her mind this is my ticket to knighthood .

Yes , right , here , I bring in May . I'm knighted the next day as soon as we get back , just go ahead and take the Padawan braid off , I'm ready to go . Let's go , let's do it .

Speaker 4

All I know is she needs to be a living force character . Bring her back as a force .

Speaker 1

Sorry , yes , okay , because yes , bring her ass back as a force goes . Great character , yes , absolutely fun character , hardcore hardcore it hit me right here it did get you right in the chest . I was like , get you right in the chest , get you right in the chest but um , and what's his helmet ?

Speaker 4

cortosis , you guys , okay cortosis .

Speaker 1

Cortosis has been around for a long , long time . For those that aren't familiar with it , like we , we first learned about it in legends . We first learned about cortosis um , I believe it's during the whole thing with the Fel Empire and Cade Skywalker and all that the Imperial Knights who had white lightsabers . They had cortosis vambraces , wrist guards .

They employed those because it short circuits a lightsaber blade .

Speaker 4

Yeah , and where is that in the new ones ?

Speaker 1

It's not anywhere , so they pulled that from Legends to ones it's it's not anywhere , so they they pulled that . They pulled that from legends to bring it back into the canon . Um , which I was very excited as soon as . As soon as I saw darth smiley using it cortosis , I knew it . That's the only thing I was yeah .

I was like , yeah , I get some my , my guy . So that was yeah . So three great episodes back to back to back , um , that last , the last episode . There was a lot of a lot of dialogue in that , but , um , man , it was just , it was good . I like , I like you know that we're getting to see a different side of Darth Smiley .

I mean we got to see his front and backside , I mean almost . I mean , well , osha got to see every side of Darth Smiley with his skinny , different ass . My boy's in great shape , my boy's in

The Force, Light and Dark

good shape . So , whatever , I want someone to come out with the Sith Lord diet and workout plan because I want to know .

Speaker 4

Yeah , it's called evil Right .

Speaker 1

Okay .

Speaker 4

It's called being mad .

Speaker 1

Done . It's like how many Jedi do I need to kill to get those biceps ? And ?

Speaker 4

shoulders Crying .

Speaker 1

Stay mad . He didn't cry , he was mad a lot . Listen , stay mad and eat salad I'm talking about just a lot of whining and it's it wasn't .

Speaker 4

I don't mean it that like he was really doing it , it's just he's like you know they did and they dude all right .

Speaker 1

So you're right , you're right , all right . So so let's talk about these episodes and like overall , in terms of like some of the themes that we see . So this , these are my questions for y'all . Okay , these are my topics for us . So , as we're seeing now , the force is not always what it seems right .

The light side and the dark side okay , would you say that they are . I think I know that the answer . I know what everyone's gonna say probably each side , too rigid , too dogmatic , not enough room for growth on each side . And if so , osha makes this comment . She said that she's not as easily corruptible as may .

Is it possible , kind of a two-part question here ? Is it possible that you can be , quote unquote corrupted by the light side thoughts ?

Speaker 3

well , whether or not we want to call it corruption or manipulation , yeah , uh , that that's the that's the good term to use . Uh , you absolutely can be . It's just a question of means . To an end , corruption has an implication for darkness , but manipulation can absolutely be used in quote-unquote positive ways , sure ways .

But the fact that it is manipulation in and of itself means that it's not really positive . So , absolutely , you can be manipulated to the light side just as easily as you can be corrupted to the dark side . Now , as far as , as far as whether or not both sides are too dogmatic , the Jedi definitely are .

Point in time where we are , the dark side hasn't shown itself to be that , because right now , we're literally talking about really one guy right , and his whole thing is just hey , I want to do what I want to do , like he just wants to survive he he even said that in one of his speeches .

Speaker 2

He just wants to exist and be left alone to do what he wants . To do he doesn't want . I think he even said something along the lines of this isn't what I want . What I want is just to be left alone .

Speaker 3

He says that , but at the same time nobody knew he existed .

Speaker 2

If that's all he wanted , he could have just done his shit Well because I think that he was , because I think that he's been blocking , like that's what he's using that metal helmet for and stuff , as he's trying to , so that he can't be sensed . You know what I mean , so that he can't be sensed . You know what I mean ?

He doesn't he's not like Palpatine where , like Palpatine , was so strong in the Force that he could literally mask his identity . I think that this guy is using , you know , this metal that he has and this helmet , like it , suppresses his senses , but it also keeps other Jedi senses out of him and he mentions that and he mentioned that too .

Speaker 1

He said you know soul , I think , said , well , you know , if you , if you just want to be left alone and you don't want to , you know , you know , just exist , then why make yourself known ? And he was like well , I did wear a mask you know , I was trying to be on the DL , but he wasn't though .

Speaker 4

No , he wasn't on the DL because he was using May as his arm he wasn't on the dl because he was using may as his arm he searched out for someone to be his um padawan . Basically , yeah , be his second . So if you want to be alone , you're gonna be alone and he's living on that planet because it's made .

Speaker 1

Obviously we saw it in the cave of this metal oh yeah , veins of like raw cortosis were in the walls .

Speaker 4

So that's why he's on the planet . He's trying to hide himself from the Jedi and he's just manipulating whoever he can . Because he said he just wants someone . I think he said something about wanting someone to just share this with him .

Speaker 2

He said I want the power of two Like I want a second .

Speaker 4

Right , if you want to be alone , then what do you need a second for ? Why are you manipulating young girls ? Well , a young I'm not saying girls , because it could be a boy too . That's not , that's not . So , yeah , so why are you ? I mean , you used her , and you know you used her , and he did it on purpose .

Palpatine's doing the same thing they're all doing , and the Jedi do the same . I'm not justifying the Jedi either , though , because again , they're doing the same thing we do in the real world .

You take something good and you distort it and make people believe that's the way it should be based on your own agenda based on your own agenda instead of just being cool with everyone . That's a great point . Not like and not stealing babies and not stealing babies .

Speaker 1

Right , so in in that in that respect . But he did the same thing , the jedi and , and darth smiley , the sith too . He took a child too they , they're both doing the same things , different , different sides of the same coin . Yes , they're both .

They're both using , I mean , and if we want to talk about manipulation by the jedi , anakin skywalker , I mean , I mean , there's no better example for that than Anakin Skywalker .

Speaker 4

I do find it interesting , though , that they're using twins again . Yeah , I mean Luke and Leia should have been it . I really don't like that part to me .

Speaker 1

I get it , but I don't . I'll tell you what . In everything that I have seen online about the show , almost all of it's negative . Oh , I don't , yeah , I don't want to get into the you know everybody's like you know this is woke and blah blah whatever . No , I don't care about that part what you just said about the twins .

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone mention the Skywalker twins . Everybody always kind of likens May and Osha to Anakin , being children born of the force . No , but no one has mentioned the concept of the twins , right , because , like you just said , we've seen twins before . We've got the Skywalker twins .

Speaker 4

Right , we already have that .

Speaker 1

Right .

Speaker 4

So I don't think this , I mean but I think that's an important parallel .

Speaker 1

I think that potentially that could be an important parallel .

Speaker 4

And and then the way they were , because they were what that the death mirror witches yeah well , yeah , they're , they're .

Speaker 1

Uh , I mean , come on , yeah , yeah , they're , they're witches , they're not . Yeah , star wars doesn't like witches very much .

Speaker 4

No , they don't like the witches very much , which is not good at this time .

Speaker 2

But one thing that we're not really talking about is I totally lost my train of thought . That's what we're not talking about . We're not talking about what's in my brain , because it's not of thought . That's what we're not talking about .

Speaker 1

We're not talking about what's in my brain because it's not there anymore . That's why I write this shit down all the time . So here , all right . So I got a question here's . Here's something else in for you that's almost to to chew on here , as I was , as I was watching episode six .

Do we think Darth Smiley was using May to get to OSHA , or do you think that he legitimately just fucked up with May ? Or do you think that there was anywhere in his plotting and planning that he was using May to get to OSha or to get them both together ?

He talks about wanting the power of two , but does he mean the power of two to him and someone else ? Or you know , or is he ? Does he mean he wants the power of two , those two ? He wants to wield that power of two ? What do you guys ?

Speaker 4

think Well , their mother was pretty powerful , or whatever she was .

Speaker 3

So my interpretation of it is that he was trying he was not intentionally using Mei to get to Osha , he was using May as his . He was trying to use her as his second

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. And the only reason that plan changed is because of what happened in episode four , where she basically said fuck it , I'm just going to turn myself into the Jedi . And he realized , well , if she's not committed to the cause , then that's not going to work anymore and I need to find somebody else , right ? So I don't think that was his long-term plan .

Was to use may to get to OSHA . I think it's a convenience for him that he had the opportunity to do so , but I don't think that was his long-term plan .

Speaker 1

Okay , all right . And now it's interesting because we're seeing we saw may turn away from him , but not from her ideals , like , not from her ideals , like not from her overall mission . She still wants to fuck saul up and get her revenge , but she did turn away from him . And then now we're seeing osha turning towards him . Uh , so their roles are reversing .

Osha's holding out , but you can see it in her eyes that she's she's buying what he's selling . Right now I don't know she is .

Speaker 4

I I think she's listening and I think she's has an understanding of why he's doing this , um , but I I don't know . All right , I don't know . It all depends on what she finds while she's in the helmet .

Speaker 1

Very true , very true .

Speaker 2

Louis , you look like you wanted to say something ? Oh , I remembered what I was going to say , which was what we're not talking about is that the Jedi clearly did something that we don't know about .

Yes , and so there is still this elephant in the room that has taken all six episodes to still not tell us the answer of what the Jedi actually did , which , at this point , anything short of the Jedi killed all of those witches . Oh , my God , I would be shocked , because I was thinking that like what else could it possibly be ?

You know what I mean Like like I just can't think of anything else that could it possibly be . You know what I mean like like I just can't think of anything else that it could possibly be that would make sense other than they killed all of those witches and that's what we thought we were doing , the right thing .

Right going back to what tobin said before , or torben tobin , tobin before he took the poison , we thought we were doing the right thing and Sol keeps wanting to tell Osha something and keeps stopping himself so it's dark . Whatever it is is dark but I don't think anybody but the four of them knew . I don't think the Jedi Council knew .

You know what I mean like , because every time they switch to the Jedi Master bald headed lady I can't remember knew . You know what I mean like , because every time they , every time they switch to the the jedi master , bald-headed lady , I can't remember right , you think she knows I do .

Speaker 4

I think she knows because she keeps their counsel , and I mean that in the literal , that's true so she did say , okay , we gotta go , like we gotta go get them , you know like , like , oh shit she's , let's her .

Speaker 1

And and key addy moondy , both in that one scene . There there's a cover-up . They know what they're covering up . They're aware of the sith , sherry , like you said . They're just not telling this new generation .

We had , uh , we had , you know , young padawan , uh , napoleon dynamite , I don't know what his name was hob hole , hob hole , whatever you know , you don't talk about right , he looked like napoleon dynamite , so padawan dynamite . So he does not know about the sith . He may know about the dark side , because I'm sure they're being taught that .

But up to up until this point , they've dealt with like border disputes . They've dealt with Tony , like you said , they've been the galactic police . Basically , they're just there to keep the order . They don't know about true darkness . They've become complacent . They don't know anything about this .

Speaker 4

Well , no , I think they hide it right again , just like in regular society . Yes , you hot , you make them blind to it , and then that won't happen to them the jedi council knows it's gonna happen .

Speaker 1

I think the the jedi council absolutely I'm sure yoda is sitting on the council . We haven't seen him yet , but he's there um I thought yoda oh yeah , yoda's alive at this point , no , I know , I thought . Unless he's still chilling with the first episode no no , what the hell was I watching Yoda and Yaddle should still ? They should be here .

They should be there in the temple right now .

Speaker 4

Oh , that's right yeah .

Speaker 1

That's right .

Speaker 4

So Making their Making growth , maybe making growth , who knows ?

Speaker 1

who knows how long it's possible . They're kind of pregnant .

Speaker 4

They could be pregnant for 100 years yeah , yeah , that would suck , for all we know right .

Speaker 1

It's like , oh how , how many months along are you like 8 000 months um . So I'm I'm thinking that there is something between Vernestra and Darth Smiley .

Speaker 4

I think she might have been young then and maybe new , and maybe she put some kind of order out .

Speaker 1

And we don't know how old he is . We don't know .

Speaker 2

He even said that he was old . Very very A long time ago .

Speaker 4

Darth .

Speaker 3

Smiley oh .

Speaker 4

Darth Smiley , yes , he did .

Speaker 3

It is my personal thought that the scars on Smiley's back remind me an awful lot of whip scars the whip Sherry we talked about that .

Speaker 2

That whip lightsaber was cool as shit .

Speaker 3

And I really think that he was probably her Padawan , I'm thinking the same thing . Oh , I like that Way back when he said he was a Jedi .

Speaker 4

Okay , okay .

Speaker 3

I'm thinking the same thing and some shit happened and he walked away from it . Yep .

Speaker 4

All I know is I want that whip lightsaber .

Speaker 1

That's pretty dope .

Speaker 4

I've never seen that .

Speaker 1

It's pretty dope and there's been a few people within Star Wars that have had that . There was , I think , the Dark Woman , she had it , and then in the High Republic era there's another Jedi that has a light whip . But they're uncommon , but it's not the first time that we've seen them .

Speaker 4

But I do like that , tony , I like that theory . I didn't think about it until right now , so okay .

Speaker 1

So I think that that could be . I think there's a connection there for sure .

Speaker 3

And this is another thing that I kind of wanted to point out and I will admit this is not my own theory , but something that was brought up and other things that I was reading was that , is it just me , or does it look like for nestor setting up saul to take the fall ?

Speaker 1

I don't know , because uh ?

Speaker 3

on the planet , her , her new padawan , padawan dynamite , napoleon dynamite , looking kid . Um , it's basically like he comes to conclusion that saul went nuts and killed everybody , but she kind of doesn't say no no , no , no , but she , she kind of , she kind of smacks him down a little bit .

Speaker 1

she was like that is a bold accusation . And the look on her face . She did not like that accusation . No , but I think maybe she didn't like it because she doesn't want to believe it .

Speaker 4

But the evidence that we're seeing , and again , See , that leads more to then killing the witches then , because if you would think that he would kill his own freaking Padawan , right , we got a problem .

Speaker 1

But I mean , we've seen this . We've seen this in Star Wars too , you know , luke wanting to kill Ben because he thought he was going to go evil . And even in canon or in Legends , luke asked I think it's Jaina to kill her brother because he was becoming , he was going dark .

So this isn't the first time that we've we've had the jedi , you know , wanting to straight up merc people because they're quote unquote evil or they're falling to the dark side . But I think at this point , oh , go ahead tony .

Speaker 3

I'm saying I don't think it's like , I don't think it's that deep , I think it's . She knows she's gonna have to answer to either the council or to the Senate and she's plotting in her head hey , I can let Saul take the fall for all of this and clear my name , because at this point , he's the only one left of the original four .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and you know , what else was interesting is seeing like she knows about the Sith and the dark side .

Speaker 4

Oh , yes , you could see it in her face .

Speaker 1

I mean they talked about that . I think it was in episode three . They talked about that .

Speaker 4

Now that Tony said that about him , about Darth Smiley , I'm it's kind of in my head now , right like that was her padawan .

Speaker 1

but look at but now when something , when they're talking what ?

Speaker 2

is the connection back to soul and osha . You know what I mean . Like that's all well and good , but like what ?

Speaker 4

well remember they were just going to the planet , to get a forced child .

Speaker 1

They sensed them , so that's the only reason they went to that planet I'm guessing the council sensed the twins and sent this little crack team out there to their little special forces team testing to do the testing and bring them back , so they were probably , at the time , their their strongest jedi team .

Speaker 4

I will send them out . I think they picked the wrong planet Because all of them were sensitive . So I think they . I think Osha when she used to go outside of the gate . That's when they could sense the force . When she was outside , remember , she would sneak out .

So I think that's why they used to yell at her like you got to stay in the wall we got to keep you hidden because maybe those walls were made of that stuff maybe cortosis or that there was that big generator that we saw .

Speaker 1

That generator might have been doing something to keep them there .

But I I think at some point what's going to happen is like this this whole thing's going to blow up in their face because , like when , when vernestra and and napoleon dynamite were talking , she clearly knew that something or someone else could have done all of this , but he immediately could only conceive of another jedi doing this , because he doesn't know he

doesn't know . He doesn't know anybody right .

Speaker 4

Because he doesn't know . He doesn't know , he doesn't know anybody . Like you said , he might know a little bit about the dark side .

Speaker 1

He only knows what he's been taught .

Speaker 4

There you go .

Speaker 1

And he doesn't know what he doesn't know .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and to the point that we brought up before about the counselor , whoever , being able to sense the children . I mean that was directly referenced in the most recent episode , because Smiley basically says no , no , no , it's not . That soul is so powerful that , in the force that he can see you , it's that you're so powerful .

Speaker 4

Yes , right , he did say that .

Speaker 1

But again , that could be who knows , who knows what dark smile he's doing right now . It could be lies , manipulations , we don't know . It's like we're we're kind of wanting to trust him , but it's like , oh , I don't know . I mean , we shared a naked hot tub together . It's like I don't know . Like , can I trust you ?

I put my , I put your hat on , put your mask on .

Speaker 4

I mean , it was like I don't know , I gave me lunch . I don't know . She's just trying to figure out her place because .

But when she , when he said , said they got rid of you , well , that's not true , because she even said I left because I failed so we don't know the whole story there yet either we don't , but I don't , I don't know , so we're let me , let's , let's get to wrapping up here , because we're I do have one quick question yes , please , of course , of course of

here .

Speaker 1

I do have one quick question yes , please , of course , of course , of course .

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Speaker 2

Am I the only one who wants the bad guy to win in this show ? I want Osha to turn , or I want Sol to die , or I want the show to end with the Jedi looking completely stupid and seeing like I don't want . I don't want the end of the show to be the good guy wins .

Speaker 1

I agree . You're not the only one . I feel the same way .

Speaker 2

I want this to lead to something like I like that fight scene . When he tore those Jedi up , I was like yo , let's up . I was like yo , let's go . I was so excited because with Star Wars , I love Star Wars , of course . But what are our favorite episodes ?

Our favorite episodes are the Empire Strikes Back , the Last Jedi not really so much Attack of the Clones , but Revenge of the Sith . The movies where the bad guys win um , because there's always usually something that's unique about it compared to everything else , which always seems so formulative , right , like a new hope , very formulative .

And phantom menace is very formulative , like the the good guys , good guys , won . It's always the same repetitious stories , but with the movies that have had the bad guys win , they've all been kind of unique in their own way . So I don't know .

Speaker 4

For me , I think it's just a middle ground , because I do like the Sith , I think you know , but I think it's also because what I know of them , that they were repressed and they were manipulated really to become what they are and use the dark . They just want to be normal . I don't know about left alone , but I don't know about that .

But yeah , I think they could all just get along if they'd just all be cool . That's my phrase these days . Can you just be cool ?

Speaker 1

Can you just be cool ?

Speaker 4

Because you can use the dark side and the light together . We know this . Some Jedi do it .

Speaker 1

Ahsoka perfect example .

Speaker 4

Ahsoka does it . She doesn't turn . Ahsoka , perfect example . Ahsoka does it , she doesn't turn . You can be normal and still have love , anger , hate . You can still have all that . Use all of them , but you know how to use it and you learn it's like a Vulcan .

I'm not saying they're emotionless like a Vulcan , but they learn to deal with that and I think that's the story . The story is learning to adapt to who you are without hurting others . At least that's my take on it .

Speaker 1

Nope , I love it and , Louie , what you brought up , because that takes me to my hot take . Because my hot take is I have zero interest in the Jedi . To me , the Jedi are not interesting characters Individually they are , but the Jedi as a whole , as an organization , as a group , I could care less . I don't like them .

The Sith are interesting to me , and not because they're quote-unquote bad guys , but it's like they . There is that need to just want to exist like everyone else , but it's their own egos and their desire for power that will eventually undo them .

But I'm really curious to see if we're going to learn more about the origins of the sith from a canon perspective , from a legend's perspective . I believe that the sith were initially exiled jedi that were sent to the sith home . There was a race of beings called the Sith and they , basically they were the lords of the Sith .

So when you talk about someone who is the lord of the Sith , they were literally the lords of this other species this other race of . Force-sensitive beings . So they used those Force beings and you know , they kind of , they kind of exploited them . So you know , and that's , and eventually the sith evolved from there .

You get darth bane , the rule of two and all this blah blah . But if I'm remembering correctly I could be off there , but um , I believe that's what it was . It was exile .

Speaker 4

Exile was Exiled Jedi .

Speaker 1

Because in this we talk about , I want to say it was like episode three , when the little small council is meeting and they're talking . They don't even want to say that it's a Sith Lord . They say , oh , is it a splinter order ? And it was a splinter order that essentially became the Lords of the Sith .

And it was a splinter order that essentially became the Lords of the Sith . But in the books and legends that took place thousands of years prior to where we're at right now . So I mean , I don't know , I'm curious to see that . But I agree , louis , sherry , tony , I agree with you guys all . I would very much like to see more about Darth Smiley .

I want him to walk away with Osha . I want them to be like the fucking badass power couple and then . But what's going to happen is and louis , to your point , why you know we like the second act . You know we like empire strikes back . You know , years ago , lucas george lucas is in an interview and he said that star Wars is your classic three-act play .

There's nothing crazy about it . It's a three-act play . The first act you meet the characters . They get to know each other . The second act you put the characters in an impossible situation they could never get out of and in the third act they get out of it . He said that's Star Wars In each movie . There it's a three-part thing , but the the movies themselves .

If you look at a new hope , empire strikes back . Return of the jedi . In a new hope we meet the characters , they go on an adventure and even in that they get put in an impossible situation they can't get out of . They're on the fucking Death Star and they get out of it . Empire Strikes Back .

Now that entire movie , they're in this impossible situation in Jedi . They get out of it . So I think that we , we're , I think that's what's going to happen ultimately , because it , like you said , it's all Star Wars is always very formulaic . It doesn't matter , it's how it is .

So right now we're , we're still kind of like maybe in that getting to know you phase , we're , we're closing in on the second act and I think maybe we're going to see osha in that second act getting pulled in to the quote-unquote dark side yeah , I need osha to be a badass because

Speaker 2

osha's not really a badass .

Speaker 4

Not yet .

Speaker 3

I know we're up here and I don't want to prolong it any longer than necessary , but it is one thing that I feel like I need to bring up is that I know it's already been talked about that any future seasons were already killed off . The potential for all that was already killed off .

But does anybody else feel like they don't have enough time left to finish this story ? Why ? I mean , we've got two episodes left .

We haven't even figured out just yet what the fuck the Jedi did to the witches , I mean , and that story is going to take a while to tell and then so so you've got maybe one episode to to give us that , give us the rest of that background and establish what the fine , what , what ?

Speaker 4

yeah , what they're gonna leave .

Speaker 1

They're gonna leave us wanting more yeah , I .

Speaker 4

I think they'll be able to explain it , probably in some sort of flashback and I , I think I , I would not .

Speaker 1

I would not discount the season two . I would not say that that is completely off the table

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. Despite all of the backlash and again , this is not something that we're supposed to be talking about but despite all the backlash , there are numbers that show watch time views , everything's getting review bombed . You know everybody's talking about the . You know the . I got a 16 audience .

You know appreciation level or whatever , which is it's all bullshit , because something came out . Episode six was . It had like x amount of thousands of negative reviews hours before it even got 30 minutes yeah and it was .

It was like an hour or so , hour or two before it even came out , yeah , and it was already getting hit with tons and tons of negative reviews and people . They ended up they're so stupid . They ended up review bombing this movie called the acolytes like they .

Speaker 2

So it's like , so they review bombed the wrong show yeah , they reviewed , but they review bombed a fucking show .

Speaker 1

Yeah , they review bombed a fucking movie .

Speaker 2

People are so fucking stupid .

Speaker 1

I'm like I don't know , like a decade ago . It's not even like a current movie . I don't think it was a movie called the Acolytes and they ended up review bombing that and this just shows their ignorance and it just is proof that the show is not as bad as they want to make it seem like it is . The show is not great .

It's not great , I'll be the first one to admit . I'm going to give it a C C plus at best .

Speaker 4

I think it just gives a little bit of background and I think they could finish it up in the two episodes left to be honest and be done .

Speaker 2

You have to give it a higher rating than Tommy personally . Okay , yeah , I .

Speaker 4

Tommy personally . Okay , I like it .

Speaker 1

It's still better than the sequel trilogy .

Speaker 3

regardless , I'm going to say the same thing I've said since episode one Until it's done , I can't give it a rating . Now . Personally , it is getting better for me as it goes on , because early on to me it was slow , it was okay . I understood we're introducing the characters , we're developing you know the larger world it's .

I Was understanding of that and so like . While it was slow for me and there were parts that I didn't enjoy that much , I was willing to give it that time and the most recent episodes have Peaked my interest more and okay , if they stick the landing , I'm willing to give it a good rating overall . Um , but I need to see how they stick the landing .

I agree , I agree , I'm just saying you're right right now c plus , c plus .

Speaker 4

Yeah , I just I just want to see the rest of it because I I don't think it needs a second . I mean , to be honest , I don't depending on how they wrap it up , we might need a second if they wrap it up decently , I think it's fine , like again , like I said , it's a it's a nice show , but it wasn't necessary .

Speaker 1

Okay , I don't think all right you know what I mean unless it ties in some other way , unless they figure out some other way to tie it into the overall story , it's just backstory , basically .

Yeah , for you , it's just , it's just interesting backstory , but it has nothing to do with because , like what you're , what you're used to seeing is the skywalker saga , you know so it doesn't stop .

Speaker 4

It doesn't tie into that in any way . Well , I'm okay with other sagas , but it's just like the whole franchise really is revolved about the twins it is well .

Speaker 1

Yeah , you're absolutely right .

Speaker 4

Anakin the twins and so I get it and I I see what they're trying to do . They're trying to step out that box because they're trying to get another , a different kind of audience . That's what I think , and it's trying to get a different perspective on it and it's relatively unexplored , uncharted territory .

Speaker 1

I mean the um the high republic . There's a lot of books for it . Of course there's Knights of the Old Republic . We do have other references to High Republic era , but nothing in live action . So it's a new sandbox to play in .

Speaker 4

So I get it no-transcript , and that's where that's where we're leaving it at broke neck yord than a live ray . And I haven't seen those , not really , so I can't .

Speaker 1

Well , now you don't need to . You've seen the best of them laying on the floor , the jungle floor of Kofar .

Speaker 4

Oh , okay .

Speaker 1

Alright , anyway , so that's going to do it . So your homework , succulents , is going to be to watch the Clone Wars animated movie . No belly aching from Daddy Louie , please . You're watching it .

Speaker 2

I will watch it with fresh eyes .

Speaker 1

Fresh eyes , thank you . Thank you very much . It's a fun ride . Yeah , stinky gets a little annoying , but we get to see the introduction of some really really great characters . We get to see the introduction of some really really great characters . All right , we get to see asajj again . We get it's just all right , don't okay . Okay anyway . So all right .

So that's gonna do it . Please watch the clone wars animated film for next week we're gonna be talking about it . We went way long . I think that's a lot of that's my fault that's okay , it's everybody's fault , but we're returning back you . We're back from our little break , our little mini break . So a brand new season .

Speaker 3

Three episodes of a show . It's going to happen .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's going to happen . What are you going to do ? All right , so time for the obligatory pimpage . Please be sure to go ahead and check us out on all social media at the SWS show and be sure to subscribe to our podcast and our YouTube channel . Of course , you can subscribe on whatever platform you listen to .

Most people are listening to listening to us on Apple , but of course we're on Spotify , google , all over multiple platforms . We're on all the platforms , basically , so you can check us out . I personally listen to our show on Spotify , so listen wherever you'd like to and , of course , check us out on YouTube .

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Speaker 4

And take a picture of yourself and put it on our pages and take a picture of yourself .

Speaker 1

You know what our pages , and take a picture of yourself . You know what . That is a great idea , damn it . That's a great idea . You take a picture of yourself wearing some of our gear .

You know , just post it , let people know , post it , hashtag us in it , hashtag at the SWS show , and you know what your next purchase is going to be on us , we're going to pick the best one and then we're going to get you a hoodie . I didn't say all that we're going to send you a hoodie . I'm just kidding , so that's why I'm not worried about it .

So if someone does it , we'll pick the best one .

Speaker 2

We'll pick the best one Not everybody , but we'll pick the best one , I think you should just say the first person that does it .

Speaker 1

All right , first person . First person to all of our social media . So I don't know , you know what Hit us up on . I don't know when should they hit us up . I mean because we're on all the social media .

Speaker 4

I'm going to say Facebook , give us a call . Give us a call , I'm on there a lot .

Speaker 3

Check the number at the bottom of your screen now , star Wars . Just give us a call now .

Speaker 1

Star Wars sucks , just give us a go .

Speaker 4

Oh , we need to do that line , Okay anyway .

Speaker 1

We'll do it Alright , so check it out . Circleofnerdscom slash merch Cop yourself some cool . Star Wars sucks merch . I think this weekend I'm going to be posting . We're going to be launching a new design . It's going to say Swarzy Curious . So I think that's going to pretty cool . That's gonna be a nice little design .

I mean , it seems like a good design in my brain , so we'll see what happens when I actually so yeah , and if you want to find out what we're gonna be doing next , you can check out the timeline on our website , circleofnerdscom slash the SWS show , and you'll be able to see the timeline for the rest of the season . There .

We are going to be diving into season one of the clone wars all 21 , 22 episodes of it . So it's going to be a good ride . So , as always , thank you all so much for tuning in this week . We we love our succulents . We absolutely love you . So thank you for joining us . You guys got anything before we head out .

Speaker 4

Nope , just everybody . Have a good weekend .

Speaker 1

Yeah that it Nothing else from the fellas .

Speaker 2

I have a live stream on Monday if people want to come watch it .

Speaker 1

That's what I was looking for there you go , plug it Nice , okay . Well , I mean where ?

Speaker 2

I got a live stream when , what is it ? Youtubecom type in Redigade Game Studios . I will be live streaming Monday 6 pm . Eastern . So if you go back to my last stream , I started working on a miniature of Mighty Morphin , power Ranger , yellow trainee inside of dragon armor .

Speaker 1

Yep , that's right .

Speaker 2

It's pretty cool . I'm going to be finishing up her . I show people what to do to go beyond tabletop standard and do a little bit more advanced painting Love it .

Speaker 1

You got me with the painting .

Speaker 2

Love it , love it .

Speaker 1

You got me with the painting , bug man . I painted that one and I want to keep going . That's going to do it for us again ,

Fun and Quirky Podcast Goodbyes

succulents .

Thank you guys , so much for joining us this week and , as always , you can listen to any other podcast , but you chose to listen to this one , so I appreciate you , hopefully no one was forcing you down while making that happen I would also hope that that didn't happen , but I'll take those numbers , though I I mean I will , I will take those regardless , we

got your view count , so it's all good . So if you you are in some way being human trafficked and someone's forcing you to listen to the show whoever is forcing you to do that make sure that you both give us individual likes . I don't want to just get the single like from a human trafficker . The traffic E also needs to go ahead and give us a like .

So please I mean , if you're going to traffic someone , you might as well get a like and a subscription out of them .

Speaker 4

I don't think they're listening to her , and I kind of hope they're not .

Speaker 3

I don't know . And we have been demonetized for the last half season and we're done Okay .

Speaker 1

All right , folks . So that's it . That's gonna do it for us . We are gone , we are out of here and , of course , as always , if nobody does anything nice for you , do something nice to yourself and , uh , we will see you all next week . Bye , I'm a fire .

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