Here we go. Can I persuade you to join us for the drink of the shoot? It's a tradition. Here. Here Georgia Homie, my main man. Quickly, before the Separatists attack. Get into the escape. This is the Escape and we're the Pot. Welcome back to Star Wars Escape Pod. And we're sitting here in the escape pod with your co host Blake joining us very shortly. And we're going to be chatting all about the fifth episode of season two of The Bad Batch. It's called entombed.
Brought us to some very familiar Jedi survivor, Indiana Jones kind of vibes going on in this episode. So that was interesting. So we'll talk about that briefly as well as we got a new rating system on the show we're going to be using going forward. So we'll introduce that in a little bit as well. An article about Omega, her connection to The Bad Batch star Wars Celebration 2023 is right around the corner.
We're going to be chatting about the new announced guests that are going to be showing up there and a little bit more. Let's get into it. Another happy landing. Hello, hello. Here we are again, just the two of us this week. And yeah, first off, before we kick things off here, welcome to Star Wars Escape Pod.
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So, yeah, thank you all for tuning in for subscribing. And we do love to chat Star Wars every week and it makes us really happy. Yeah, we do. Can you believe people listen to us every week? It blows my mind. Every week. Yeah, we're still doing this. Yeah. And this week we have a new episode of The Bad Batch, season two, episode five. It's called entombed. So I'll just read the description real quick here and we could talk about it very briefly here.
So while searching a junkyard for a useful salvage, omega and Wrecker find an ancient compass containing a set of coordinates toward the uncharted Caldar trinary that carry the promise of treasure, Fee. Genoa. Is it Genoa? I forget. And Omega persuade the Bad Batch to set out for the system where the compass leads them to Scara Nal, the resting place of a legendary crystal, the Heart of the Mountain.
Getting some hobbits, they find the stone, but upon removing it, scara Nal is revealed as an ancient doomsday mech, which begins running amok. And the Bad Batch and Fee managed to return the crystal, which deactivates and destroys the machine. And that seems to conclude the plot of the episode. So what do you think about this one? Just, like, initial thoughts. I enjoyed it quite a bit. I'm not sure if I was supposed to be an homage to Lord of the Rings or to the Hobbit.
I feel like it had to have been right. Like, it's the exact same name. Is that even an homage at that point, or are you just, like, stealing ideas? Yeah, I was like I mean, I don't know. Like, the Heart of the Mountain is pretty direct to me. I know Dave Felony just absolutely loves Lord of the Rings and just the middle earth world, so I don't know. Maybe it is a call back, right? Oh, man.
You know, to me, probably what happened was Dave Felony had a note make it something like the Heart of the Mountain, and then the writers are all sitting in a circle like in The Simpsons. They're like, so does the Heart of Mountain work for everybody? Yeah, that's good. Sounds familiar isn't what anyone would recognize. I think Dave said it once. He must want her in the show. Yeah, man, we got to put this on now. There we go.
All right, so my initial thoughts when this error, when this episode started to air, was dang. Like, I don't know what it is with this character Fee, but it makes me wonder what her purpose in the show is. Right. Because we've seen her once before at the very beginning, the premiere of the season, with her kind of giving the job to Sid, who then gave it to the Bad Batch, hired them to do it to steal Count Duke's treasure. Right.
So we have seen her before, and then she pops up again in this episode, and she's kind of all telling her tales of treasure hunting days and all that, and Hunter is like, check this out. I get a load of that kind of thing. Who believes anything she's saying? The story changes every time. Whatever. Yeah. And I really just think this entire episode was just supposed to be fun.
It was just supposed to be kind of a callback or at least a nod of the head to any story out there that has had a good adventure to it, maybe some treasure along the way. And as time goes by, the memory kind of fades and changes with time as someone's memory would likely distort. And just memories do that. Right? Things end up sounding different later on when you read Tell the Story, but I thought it was just like, okay, all right.
Overall, I don't think I was crazy impressed or anything like that. I got to say, I think it's even more of a filler than the last one, which I thoroughly enjoyed. But I enjoyed this one, too, though. That's the thing, right? Yeah. I thought it was still a good story. It was, like, fun. It had a twist in it. It wasn't bad. Yeah, it wasn't bad. I'm not trying to crap on it or anything, but it's poo do on it. It was like if Indiana Jones was an anime.
Yeah. Although I think Indiana Jones is an anime would be better. But anyways, that's what the Crystal Skull should have been. Dave Faloney, he just, like, called them up and he's like, hey, guys, can you make Indiana Jones in the four? But just make it better? Yeah. All right, thanks. See you. That'd be great. Thank you. Yeah. Any favorite moments of this episode of notes here? See if there's anything in here. I think I actually just really enjoyed Wanda Sykes character.
I thought she was like she felt very not Star Wars, which is kind of weird, but right. To me, she was like, if Lando and Indiana Jones were one character. Yeah. And it does make me wonder what's the deal with her character? I was just saying I forgot to conclude that thought.
But it just makes me wonder, like, characters like this that kind of start off very mysterious in the way that it's like, okay, what's their overall purpose in the show? Sometimes it ends up paying off to a really good, really kind of well planned out story of some kind. I'm intrigued because she's quite the actress to kind of bring onto the show. Right. So Wanda has been in tons of live action stuff and instantly recognizable. The moment you hear talk. I know who that is.
She has a very unique voice. You could pick her out immediately. Yeah, totally. I'll jump in here with my favorite did you like the twist? Did you like it being this giant robot mech thing that just starts destroying everything? Yeah, you know what? Because I'd seen the trailer and I had no idea that that was coming in this episode because that was a shot from the trailer, I'm pretty sure.
But, yeah, I think that was probably my favorite moment, was that this entire thing that they've been in was just this giant buried mech thing. But I don't know, I thought that was kind of cool. And we'll get into it in just a moment. There's, like, a bunch of theories that are pointing out to what it is and who it belonged to, but, yeah, I thought that was my highlight for sure from the episode. Okay, that's cool.
I wasn't sure because some of it did make total sense to me, the fact that they put the key back in and then it just fell apart didn't really make any sense to me. Why didn't it just power down? Right. You think the people who originally created it would have had why would you build that entire thing? And then if you just remove the key from the ignition and then you put it back, it will just fall apart and explode. Yeah.
I was trying to think of why, if I were to build that machine, why would I do that? Maybe the laser was maybe it kind of backfired, like when they put the crystal in and the laser was still charging up, maybe it kind of was the wrong moment to put it back in. Right. If the laser wasn't firing, maybe it wouldn't have disintegrated the crystal. But yeah, I don't know.
It's curious, isn't it? It did remind me of I don't think the shattering of the crystal didn't really shock me all that much because I thought that it was very similar to in a way, it was very similar to that moment with Omega just letting go of the treasury. She had that whole Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade kind of moment where she has to kind of just let the cup go off the edge, and she's got it like Indy does. Right.
Omega has a moment that's very similar, and I guess it was something similar in which they go after a treasure, and instead of a treasure, they actually get a story out of it and a tale to tell the real treasure. Yeah, exactly. And I guess that was the whole point of the story. what the greater kind of idea of this episode is trying to do. I got to be honest, I kind of missed those little, like, two sentence, one sentence things that Dave would slot in before Clone Wars episode.
Those little yeah, the little philosophical kind of bit that would have some sort of resemblance to the episode. And at the end of the day, it's like, okay, well, if this entire episode was all for nothing in the grand scheme of the series, then at least it's kind of trying to tell a story in which it's supposed to be about this. And you can always go back to the first title card and go, like, okay, this is the message it's trying to convey. And in the bad batch, we don't have that.
So it's kind of like, okay, it's all right. I feel like all the small things like that together make it harder to tell a deeper story because you don't have as much time. Yeah. When you have, like, a narrator to a story, you can kind of speed everything up because you're talking directly to the audience. Yeah. So they're missing that now.
Yeah. I don't want to say it's, like, kind of a shame or a waste, because I know that a lot of the animated Star Wars shows tended to start off a little more spaced out in terms of not really having solid fleshed out arcs all the time. But it does shock me a little bit that this show has had such a roller coaster with extremely awesome moments and then episodes like this where it's just kind of done for fun and yet it almost feels like it didn't need to happen.
It almost feels like there's so much more that they could have pulled an episode out for the week and they have the entire Clone Wars to build on as a foundation. So it's not like they're starting from scratch. How many episodes do we have in this season? In season two? Yeah. Do they announce how many they're going to be? Yeah. So they do have a whole schedule for the season, I believe. I think it's supposed to be 16 episodes, if I'm not mistaken.
Okay. It's not like a full old school animated show with 24 episodes. No, I think it's because these episodes are slightly longer. Only slightly, but yeah, who knows? I mean, Clone Wars was like that though, right? Like, they did the full 22, 24 episode season and Bad Batch has so far in its first season. It did 16 episodes. Season two, I'm not entirely sure how many will get. I would imagine it's going to be 16 as well. That's at least what it says on Wikipedia.
I'm pretty sure we can trust that. But I guess we'll see. We're nearly at the halfway point now. We're three episodes away from the halfway point. So I was kind of hoping that's crazy. Yeah, I was kind of hoping that things would pick up a little bit, but maybe it doesn't feel like a lot has happened. No, it doesn't. Yeah, it's been a lot of treasure hunting. And we got that one really solid episode in there with Cody and Crosshair and that's pretty much it.
Pretty cool race, but other than that, yeah, we've had like three episodes all about the treasure hunting now. So I guess they're taking must be leading to something because that's Wanda Sykes characters. That's her profession. She's a treasure hunter. Yeah. So it must be leading to something with that. Yeah. I wonder if we'll see any appearances from Dr. Afra or something like that. Some Star Wars archeologist or something, maybe as well, to wait and see. I didn't even think about that.
She'll be young, right? Because she seems to be a young adult. She'd be a kid. Yeah, she'd be like a young kid in this time frame, maybe no younger than Omega or something like that. But yeah, that'd be an interesting little they cross paths trying to get a treasure and then Dr. Afron, her dad shows up and it's like, oh shoot, we're trying to beat them to the treasure or whatever. Right. That'd be kind of there'd be some twist. And her dad will be Admiral Yalarin.
I don't think that was in the comics. No, that's new. Well, I guess the thing that I already brought up, which was that I felt like the key didn't make any sense other than that I thought it was fun. It was kind of cheesy. I would like to know more. We're told that this whole thing was put together by these pirates.
I don't know if the idea is like Wanda Sykes character just made that up, or if that's supposed to be these ancient pirates created this booby trap for the treasure, but the whole treasure thing doesn't really make any sense in this circumstance. No, it's actually just a giant robot. Is it a booby trap? Is it a war machine? What's going on? Right. That's a great question to bring up.
I'll just get my answer out of the way for this question is probably just the fact that it's like a pretty filler episode. I think that's what I don't like about almost any episode that tends to get to go by that is, like, more filler than anything else.
The big question is, what do we think about the possible connection to the Zepho? So if anyone here listening has played Jedi Fallen Order, you will know that along Calcastus's journey, he comes in contact with remnants and ruins of an ancient civilization sentient species native to the planet Zepho, who many could also wield the Force, which they referred to as the life wind. And they left a lot of things behind. And they're extinct. They're long extinct.
So in the canon, they have been I think they have been referred to as the ancients. And maybe it's just I know in the EU there's like two or three different things in which a species was referred to as the ancients, also kind of long extinct. But in the canon so far, the Zepho is kind of the one thing that has been established to have been a civilization that recognized the Force that were before the Jedi did. Right.
So if we're going with the idea that this machine is in fact built by an ancient, long gone civilization, there's real good evidence, real solid evidence that could point to the fact that this thing was built by the Zepo. And if you look up a picture of what the Zepo looked like, their head shapes and everything like that are all very reminiscent to the way that this thing looked. That's good point. Yeah. So I'm down to believe that this is Zepho territory we're dealing with.
Okay. Yeah. In the related subject matter, in the game, you fight tomb guardians and everything like that, which were robotic kind of soldiers that shot blue plasma lasers out of their chest, very similar to this giant horse thing that we saw. They also had kind of very we even call that shape of their head with the wings dome like. Yeah, like very wide top heads and kind of curving inwards a little bit. Like T shaped. T shaped, I guess so, yeah. The tomb guardian, that's a big one as well.
Yeah. You know what? I'm looking at the tomb guardian here, and the head and face look very similar to the giant. It's the laser thing. It's the blue laser that gets me, because the effect and the look of it is almost the same. And you'd think that it's nearly the same kind of technology as well. So I'm down to kind of just accept this, that this thing is just Zepho, knowing some of the things that they've done in the county so far.
Maybe we'll never get any solid evidence that it was Zefo technology, but yeah, I'd like to think it is. You get a well, hey, Dave. Well, everyone's got their theory, and I like to keep it that way. Keeps the options open. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I don't know. It's like it could be Zepho. Could be Zephy's stuff. But there's an interesting recording about the Zepho.
So, again, Jedi Fallen Order, by the way, Jedi Survivor, the sequel to that game is just around the corner, so maybe we'll get a bit more about the Zefo in the coming weeks. But there's a really good quote, which I totally forgot about because it's been quite a long time since I played the game, but it's right at the top of the Zepho species Wikipedia page, and I thought it was such a great quote about the Zepho and why they're extinct. And it has such a big parallel to the Jedi themselves.
So Calcstus finds a recording of some kind in which the someone of the Zephyl species is kind of like left behind, I guess, knowing that they're going to all perish at some point. And they say this. I offer this recording of our civilization to those who will follow. Despite our wisdom and technological achievement, we face extinction. Dogma blinded us to the path of balance, and gradually we allowed our pride to corrupt us. The greater control we sought, the further we fell into ruin.
I lead the remnants of my people into the great unknown, hoping that we finally find peace. Does that not make you think of the Jedi Order or what? Right. Sounds a lot like a Jedi order. Yeah, it sounds a lot like someone on the council would say it sounds like something Yoda would say after going into exile. Right. Kind of like reflecting back on all their sins and just kind of thinking to myself, like, dang, we could have done things differently. Right? So, yeah, very cool stuff.
But let's give this episode a rating so we get to use our new rating system in this is the part I've been looking forward to for the whole show, the rating system. Pablo's Poodoos all right, so new to 2023 onwards, we're going to be using Pablo's poodus to rate awesome and terrible Star Wars shows and movies that we will see in the coming years, I guess. So how it works is we either give it a score out of three Pablo points or three Pablo Pudu's. All right? So it's on a scale of six.
If it's in the middle, you give it a bendu. So if anyone knows where that's from so yeah, three Pablo points. You got to google it. Yeah, it's the inside job. You got to google it. All right? So starting with the very, very worst of the worst, you give it three Pablo Pudu's. All right? And if it's like the best of the best of the best, you give it three Pablo points again, right in the middle to bendu. If it's all right, maybe one Pablo point.
If it's maybe not bad but not great, maybe you consider giving it one poodoo. I don't know. So give it a thought and give it a score. Yeah. You got a score in mind? I think so. I'm disappointed because I don't get to say the one I want. I just want to say Pablo pudu, but I actually thought it was kind of decent. I can't do that. I'd probably give it one Pablo point. One Pablo point. All right. I think so. That's actually the territory I was into. I was in one Pablo point.
I don't think it was spectacular. If I was to go back a week and score last week's episode faster, I would actually have given that two Pablo points. Again, it's not perfect and it's not part of this insane story arc, but for a filler episode, I thought it was really good. Yeah, that's exactly it under the term of it being a filler. I think that's like the previous episode last week's. Yeah, I think that's about as good as you could possibly get territory. Totally. Yeah. There we have it.
There's certain things about this episode, though, and I'm getting back into gripes because the stuff's coming to me. I wish he wants that puzzle poo. Do I wish they would have used the pirate stuff more? Because pirates in Star Wars can be super cool. And this like ancient pirate stuff. Why didn't they try to do the Treasure Planet? Oh man, that would be awesome. Like a whole story arc.
You mean like Treasure Planet style, where they have to park, they have to hire a crew and it's all treacherous. I like that a lot, actually. We should just say Dave. We should mail that in. Yeah, someone tweet dave just be like, Dude, bad batch. Plus, like, treasure island plotline done. Three episodes, reply with a link. He'll just reply to a link to the Wiki for Treasure Planet. I'm like it's been done. He'll give him the Ryan Johnson little yup. Yeah. Fist bump emoji yup in the works of me.
I think it's the design that I think missed out on because it could have been super cool. Like, yeah, the the alien, like, alien pirate swashbuckling Sci-Fi thing to me is super cool, and I wish they would have went into that more like, just, where are the ancient pirate skeletons? You know what I mean? Stuff like that all tied all together. Where was the captain on the captain's chair? Like, the dead skelton of the old yeah, the captain. Right, right. I know you're talking.
It's so old, there's nothing left, but, like, you like, just do it because it's cool. Yeah, it's cool stuff. Yeah, it's cool stuff. Right? Like, if you want if you want to do a treasure storyline, you know, commit to it. Let's get an arc out of this. But I got to say, it like, bringing in Zepho stuff, if it is Zepho, that is pretty sweet.
Honestly, if it didn't have the mech thing, I got to be honest, I might even have to give it a bendue, like, one step forward just because I'm like I don't know. Right. Yeah. I'm more likely to go lower than I am to go higher from where it is now. Right? Yeah, totally. Was there anything in this episode other than Wanda Sykes saying that it had to do with pirates that would tell you in the episode that this was a pirate treasure? I know she said something about the pirates.
That community of people had all been talking about this thing for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Right. What I don't understand is why it's such a prized treasure in the sense that it's actually just this key that turns on this big mech thing that can just destroy the planet, right? Absolutely. Josh yeah, I get that it's old and special, but I don't know. I guess I was just a little kind of surprised, like, oh, that's it. Yeah, that's all it is. Just, like, the key to this car. That's it.
Yeah. I mean, it's not even the key to a planet killing weapon. We've seen ancient planet killing weapons before and in the form of the Grand Sith Temple ordeal on Malacore, right, in Star Wars Revelation. So it's not like there isn't other planet killing weapons out there, but maybe this was the source of their extinction, the Zepho.
Maybe they built their own demise, right? Maybe it's like a Krypton story where this person who left all the voice recordings behind for Calcuttas or whoever would find it was kind of like the Jorel of Krypton and kind of knew that, hey, our civilization is creating our own defeat, essentially, and no one knows that.
It's like a Westworld story, right? Like, the AI takes over, and it's, like, decides to do what it thinks it's right in itself, and it's kind of its own entity, and now there's no going back, right? There's no escape. The more I think about it, I'm like, okay, yeah, it is kind of cool. But again, none of this is confirmed. It's just in my head. So it's like, yeah, it's all head cannon. Yeah, it's all head cannon. It's like, I just want to live up there in head cannon space sometimes.
But I do hope, like, this storyline pays off at some point in the future because it's lore expanding, right. And I think that's what we really love Star Wars for is it's lore expanding. And when we sit down and watch a Filler episode, I think the only reason why people like us complain or have reason to give it something like only one Pablo point or even perhaps a Bendu or a Pablo pudu, is the fact that it's not enriching the Star Wars lore. Right.
Like, every week when I sit down to watch this show, I am hoping that I not only just see a good story unfold on screen, but I'm hoping to learn something new about this galaxy that lives and breathes in the form of many stories, right? And it's like, I hate to think of a bad Star Wars story as just a waste of time.
It always makes me cringe whenever I read a Star Wars book that's just not good, because I'm like, what was the point? What's the point of making a Star Wars novel that someone has to sit down and read for 12 hours and it doesn't do any favors to expanding the lore or explaining something or filling in some plot holes somewhere which now can be continued in the form of a story and we get more rich content out of it or whatever. Right.
It just kind of bothers me when I see that, because it's almost like, what's the point? If I want to read a good story about this kind of essential, basic plot line, there's other franchises that could do it better, and there's other storylines that can do it better. So what really gives me hope about this episode is that this is, in fact, Zepho technology that is taking a note out of Jedi fallen order and saying something like, hey, this is good stuff.
We can use this, run a story through it, and maybe we can have it pay off later with a couple more story arcs or something like that. And for what it's worth, if we find out in this series that that's not the case, we will come back and we will produce. We will give it a problem. That's right. It will be poo, dude. That's right. It will be poo, dude. We got an article to quickly read through here, so let's check this out. All right, so how Omega's journey connects with the bad batch.
And, viewers, this is an article that showed up on Star Wars.com News written by Paige Lyman. And, you know, this subject kind of came up at one point when when we were talking about Omega's character and her relationship with with Hunter and basically clone. Force 99 being her family at this point. So, you know, this is like, the the headline in itself kind of caught my attention and kind of brings us back to that. I don't know.
Do you want me to read through this kind of section at a time and we can just just pipe up whenever you got something? Yeah, let's do it. Sweet. All right. So Star was the Bad Batch brought back Clone Force 99, an elite group of clone troopers who were genetically modified to have unique set of skills.
The first season put us right into the very early days of the Empire and the immediate galactic changes occurring alongside the members of the Bad Batch in Hunter, Wrecker, Tech, Cross Air, and Echo. But one unexpected addition to the group was Omega, a young clone who served as a medical assistant on Camino from her first introduction to the Bad Batch.
Omega is set apart from the other clones in a number of ways, all of which help her truly unique addition to the Star Wars galaxy upon her first meeting with the group. Omega's difference in appearance brings an immediate connection with Clone Force 99, as none of them fit in with the rest of the clone army. But the connection that Omega forms with the group, especially with Hunter, extends beyond superficial differences with other clones.
Their bond eventually blossoms into a found family, especially after the Bad Batch return to Camino to rescue her. Following a mission to ondron. Omega's greatest gift may be the heart that she brings to the team. For the most part, she's a kid who gets to experience the wider galaxy outside of Camino for the first time. Through her travels with the Bad Batch, she has a sense of wonder about her, even as the group deals with bounty hunters and the Empire pursuing them.
I actually really like this part here because it is definitely true. We've definitely talked about this, especially that episode where that old guy gives her a toy. She doesn't know what toy is. She doesn't know how to play. Yeah, she said, such a sterile life. Yeah. And it really kind of allows us to somehow connect with that character and kind of feel some sort of, I don't know, sympathy or empathy for her. It's like, Dang, that's a kid, and she doesn't know what a toy is. That sucks.
You know what I got out of reading that section is I forgot that the Empire's haunting her. They haven't talked about it all this season. It was a big thing last season. She kept getting, like, kidnapping no cadbain or whoever. Well, I guess in part, I mean, it is due to that guy's failure. He executed that clone who said to him, like, hey, guess what? Clone Force Nine ends actually not dead. And he's like, oh, shoot. And then he shoots him in the face.
It lets him drop off a cliff, and he's like, yeah, there's no one's going to know about that because I want my promotion and I don't want Tarkin to know that I failed or whatever. Right. So they think she's dead. That's why they don't. That makes sense. Yeah. So everyone else thinks they're dead. I forgot that was the plot line.
Yeah. Well, it was just a little brief moment at the end of that first arc for season two so far, but yeah, it was very quick and wasn't a core element of any episode yet with the Empire hunting them down or anything like that. Other than the bounty hunters. That was in the first season. Yeah. That little moment, though, that's like the beginning of season two is up.
But you're right so far in season two, other than that one little section at the end of the second episode, we haven't had any mention of the Empire hunting clone Force 99, you know, because no one knows they're alive. Right. Except. Except crosshair. Except Crosshair. And he hasn't told them that they're alive.
Do you think it's a shame they're his brothers? So he's like, I think they've kind of come to a realization that they can live on different sides with their own beliefs and not need to try and kill each other. Right. It kind of reminds me that's what it is. That Lost Stars book that we read a couple of years ago, right? Yeah. That wonder stands out among the Bad Batch, who are already well traveled and battle hardened individuals.
Omega experiences many things for the first time, including dirt, sunlight, space travel, and even playing with other kids. These experiences have echoes of Luke Skywalker's early moments in Star Wars A New Hope when he finally makes it off tatooine, carrying a classic Star Wars threat of hope and exploration into Omega's own story. Omega's solitary, lifelong Camino has left her innocent in many ways, but while she does begin to learn more about the world, she has a strong sense for of herself.
She often questions things, looking for a deeper understanding of events like the Clone Wars and what exactly loyalty and family can mean. That search for more understanding also pushes her brothers to question the way that they operate. Her understanding of family is especially visible in season one finale, Camino Lost.
At the end of the episode, omega makes it a point to forgive Cross hair even after he chooses to remain loyal to the Empire following the squad's escape from the now destroyed Topaca city. Omega notes that he didn't like Camino, and she understands why after having spent much of her life inside Nalasse's laboratory herself. Her forgiveness comes after spending a whole season bonding with the Bad Batch and learning about the importance of family ties, even when a family member chooses to leave.
Season two of the Bad Batch opened up with a slightly older and wiser Omega. She's been out in the galaxy for a few months learning and changing alongside her family. We see that when she takes initiative for herself and her brothers, even when it's a little misguided. In the second season of season two Ruins of War, the Bad Batch take on a mission from Sid to steal one of Count Dooku's war chests from his old castle.
Through some mishaps, Omega Tech and Echo have to abandon the war chest that they secure. Still, Omega goes back to retrieve it on her own. It's a misguided action fueled from guilt after she overheard Echo telling Hunter that they can't have a normal life because of her. While this winds up putting her in the path of Imperial stormtroopers, it goes to show that she's trying her best to take care of her brothers in her own way.
And in the end, Echo reassures her that adding her to Clone Force 99 was still the right choice. Omega, through her own journey, serves as an important point of connection for viewers, much in the same way that others like Luke Skywalker and A Sooka Tano have before. We see her growing and learning during a dark time in the galaxy and bringing unique perspectives into all kinds of situations and among a group of characters that all bring something unique to the table.
Omega's approach to the world and her family is something that sets her apart. She is strong willed and caring for those close to her, even as the Empire's rise to power continues to threaten her and the Bad Batch wherever they go. So that was a thank you page. Great article. I noticed that Ezra Bridger is not in that article. Luke skywalkers. Socatano. Where's Ezra Bridger? You got to put him in there. It's like lost and forgotten. It's funny because I'm rewatching rebels.
Are you? Yeah, I am sort of kind of watching it while I'm busy working on my own stuff, paying attention. But, yeah, we got to do Rebels Talk. Rebels Talk after show before we get too late. Right? Because I feel like Rebels is going to be more relevant down the road as more and more live action shows come out. That's a good point. Yeah, I feel like we should do that. Maybe when Bad Batch is over, we'll kind of kick started up and talk about five episodes at a time or something like that.
This has been on the list? Yeah, totally. It's been on the list of things to do for a while. And I know Diego who did Clone Wars talk. He didn't really connect with Rebels as much. And so we did start doing it. We did one, and then he got busy, and then it just never happened. I think if we kind of just strap ourselves down and just kind of binge through it. Anyone listening, just let us know. Shoot us an email. Shoot us a message on Twitter and Instagram.
If you really love Star Wars Rebels and want to hear an after show or maybe if you've never seen the show and you want kind of us to help you walk through the show, that would be awesome. Unlike Clone Wars, the viewing order is pretty just in release order, thankfully. So it's an easy one to binge instead of straightforward. Yeah, clone wars is crazy. Just jumping season, and you never know if we're going through it.
Maybe we'll come across stuff that relates to, like, Clone Wars or a lot of the bigger scheme stuff because some stuff I think I can't remember specifically now, but I recall watching it the other day, I'm like, oh, that's that thing. And then because they reused it in some of the later live action stuff right. Which I didn't realize. I wish I could be more specific, but I can't remember what it was. Just do that happen. It'll come to mind, I guess, when we go through it.
But let's definitely do that. Let's definitely go through Star Wars Rebels and do an after show at some point. All right. Yeah. Well, that's the end of that article. We have, I think, one more subject on the roster, and that happens to be Star Wars Celebration. All right. Star wars celebration Europe 2023. Happening April 7 to April 10.
And as of today, more guests have been announced to make their appearance at Star Wars Celebration, doing both photo ops, interviews on stage panels, and signing autographs, which you'll pay a pretty penny for, but if it's worth it, then cool. So let's go down the list here. Anthony Daniels, c three P. Ashley Eckstein the voice of Asoka Tano d bradley Baker You'll know him as every single clone trooper in every single animated show. You get that guy's autograph, you got like 50 characters.
He should charge ten times as much. Yeah. Dennis silver maiden. Christiansen. Yeah. Dennis Lawson, who played Wedge and Tillies will be there, so that's pretty cool. That's cool because he was there when we went to Celebration. And I recall then it was a big deal because he'd never been to Celebration before, even though he's from the original Star Wars movie. Right? Yeah. It was the same with Hayden back then. That was his first convention as well. Oh, wow, that's even crazier.
Yeah, first in a while, I believe. I think he may have been to one, like, during Attack of the Clones press or something like that. But Giancarlo Esposito, who plays Moff Gideon in the Mandalorian, he will be there as well as Hayden Christensen, who needs no introduction. Indira Varma. Okay, so if my memory serves correctly, she played a character in Obi Wan Kenobi, am I right? I'm not entirely sure, to be honest. I believe she did. I think she was the same actress who was in Game of Thrones.
Yes, she did. She was in obiwan. Kenobi I'm totally blanking on her character name from Tala. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, there it is. Talla. She played talla and obiwan. Kenobi So she will be it. James Arnold Taylor, the voice of Obiwan Kenobi in the animated Star Wars series, will be there as well as Katie Sakov, who plays Boca Tan, both in live action and in animated form.
Mad Mickelson, the one and only actor you just hire for anyone you want to recast, and he will be there for his, I assume his character in Rogue One. Galen. That makes perfect sense. Yeah. Matt Lanter, voice of Anakin Skywalker, will be there as well. And actually, we have a little message from him. This is Anakin Skywalker calling in and you're tuning into the best podcast in the galaxy, star Wars Escape Pods.
Thanks, Matt. And Vivian Lira Blair, who played young Princess Leia in Obi Wan Kenobi will be at Star Wars celebration as well. I believe I got all the names that are currently on the list. And it is very possible that more names will be announced in the coming weeks. That's what I was going to ask, if this is like an ever expanding list. Yeah, I think it is.
I think up until maybe even like a few weeks before they could still technically announce more guests that they just don't have their calendar locked down yet. I would be a little shocked if you and McGregor wasn't there. Only because I know he just came out. Yeah, and I know they were at the most recent one, but I would be just a little shocked if he wasn't there. I'd also be very surprised if Rosario Dawson wasn't there either because she was at the last one.
And it makes sense that she would be at this one because her show comes out later this year as well. They just set her up with Ashley Eckstein. So if you want a soka she'll just do a two. Forget both of them on one. Yeah, just like the Soca combo pack or something like that. That's right, yeah. You got one of them to sign one of the Asoka lightsaber hilts and then you get the other to sign the other one. That'd be kind of cool. Now we're talking. Yeah, you're on to something here.
Celebration tips. With the Star Wars escape on, it's going to be the Ebay special to go along with Star Wars celebration. I mean, we're still looking to reserve the weekend to hang out and chat Star Wars in the discord and do a live podcast recording. Just kind of watching maybe watching the live stuff happen in the audio channel. And then later on we'll do an open caller kind of thing. See, people dropped in, right? I think you suggested something like that a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah, that'd be cool if people just drop in and chat some celebration with us. Yeah, we'll definitely figure something out. And we'll be announcing news in, I guess, the coming weeks because April is not too far away, but it's far enough away that we got time to plan something cool. We also have some really good Star Wars celebration channels. In the discord server, we have a Celebration RSS feed, which constantly copies over.
We have our friend Lobot copying over tweets from Star Wars Celebration official account, and you don't miss a thing there. As well as the Star Wars Celebration TV channel, which any YouTube stream that they're doing will get posted in that channel. And Star Wars Celebration Live, which Celebration live channel, is basically just like a live blog. So if you're out and about and you can't watch Celebration Live on YouTube, turn on notifications of that channel.
And anytime there's anything cool, like a photo of someone coming on stage or a quick update about something or an announcement, then you'll have that coming through on the live blog. So we're doing our best. I tell you, for a couple of people who don't get paid for this, I feel like we do a pretty good job of covering. Yeah, I think so. I think we do such a good job, bluetoothfilm should reach out and throw us a bone. Oh, man. Free flights and tickets to Celebration would be nice.
Hey, you know I wouldn't say no to that. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I mean, that's pretty much all we got for our show this week. Is there anything you want to bring up? I guess before we wrap things up here, I had this one article I stumbled on to that would be fun to share. Yes. Go for it, I guess. I'm not sure if this came out, like, recently if someone was being interviewed or if this is something that just kind of been in the ether for a long time. People just forgot about it.
But this was news to me. So, Henry Gilroy, which was one of the creatives involved in the original Clone Wars animated series, the one from 2002, I guess, when they originally were working on the pitch for General Grievous and possibly up to some development of Revenge of the Sith, they were heavily considering making him Darth Maul. Interesting. Yeah. So you find out that Darth Maul's body was found, I guess, by Sidious and put inside this mechanical suit.
Do you mean somebody else? Tony Gilroy is the guy who did Rogue One. And andor so I don't think he was involved about his work as a writer on the Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels is what it says. Henry Gilroy. Oh, sorry. Henry Gil. Okay. Yeah. So there's two Gilroy that we're talking about, star Wars Tony. He's supposed to be Henry. Yeah, because I'll say the same thing. Isn't that the rule? One guy that makes a lot more different guys. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Henry Gilroy. Right.
Cool. Yeah. The name rings a bell. Yeah. So this is something George was playing with for a long time. Obviously, he decided not to go that direction, but it was on the plate and George was behind it. I thought that was actually really neat because you're telling me you remember that being a rumor, right? Yeah.
So back in 2005, I remember the whispers between Star Wars fans at the time in which would suggest that General Grievous was actually Darth Maul but kind of rebuilt and reconstructed into this monstrous form. Which would be an interesting parallel to kind of the anakin Darth Vader transformation as well, because Grievous is always supposed to kind of resemble what Vader could become, especially with the mouthpiece and the voice and the modulation and everything like that.
interesting, right? It's cool to think about all the possibilities, if that was the thing. I'm actually very happy that Maul kind of retained his own identity as his own character. And eventually, especially now. Right. He has a much more expanded story. Especially now. Yeah. And his story is pretty much all fleshed out, I would imagine, other than the missing gaps between Solo and Star Wars rebels.
I mean, we've pretty much got everything about that character that we need to call that story finished. Right, right. Yeah. But it's interesting to see kind of like plans like that, plans that they had for characters that didn't quite go as planned or things that were changed or just concepts that were then later, like, unused. And sometimes a lot of things end up getting reused. I mean, look at the book of Boba. That's the main thing. Yeah, look at the book of that.
That shows just all recycled material. Yeah, exactly. Like Droidika designs for episode two. That's true. Yeah. That was super cool, by the way. So that's a great point of something that was reused. That was I'm really glad that they did. Yeah, exactly. Nothing ever goes to waste as an idea around there, it seems. And it's kind of cool that that is the case because a good Star Wars idea can sometimes always be a good Star Wars idea so long as it's in the right context. Thanks for sharing that.
That's a cool little yeah, it caught my eye. I thought it was worth chatting about because it's pretty cool, for sure. Yeah. Well, thank you to all our listeners who tuned in this week. We'll catch them all next week in the podcast as well as anyone who tuned in on Tuesday. YouTube. Yeah, exactly. All right, buddy, thanks again for co hosting this weekend. We'll catch you in the next one. Sounds good. Thanks for having me. We'll see you out there. Keep flying.
All right, so a big thank you to our cohost Blake and upcoming Star Wars content. News is, of course, a new episode of the Bad Batch on Wednesday this week, so tune into Disney Plus for that. Any Willow fans out there? They did behind the scenes. Like a making of Willow, which I still need to watch. Willow was awesome. So if you haven't seen that, definitely go check it out. And make sure you check out that I think it's a post credit scene or the final scene or whatever.
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