My name is Christina Carmona. Hi, my name's Media Christina. My name is. My name is Latizia Comai. I am Carlin. I'm anombous here and I'm from Pakistan. My name is Tommy and I'm from Billy from East Los Angeles, California. From Phoenix, Arizona. My name is Dara Baba and we are from the Purpose Christie, Texas of Mexican descent. I'm
Chinese and on Vietnamese. I'm mostly in Norwegian, but a little bit of everything else stand Outasian mixed with Finnish, mickwith Uh, Native American, Samoa and all different types of things. We are all connected, We're all connected, we are all we are all connected, connected are all we are all one. We are all one, one planet, one race, one consciousness. And I am one person taking one action to get us closer to peace, one day, closer closer to piece,
one day to peace, one day. Who will you make peace with? Today? Who will you you? Wh will you make who will you make peace with? Today? Will you make a peace week? Today? Hey, it's Bobby Bones. So honored to be with you today hosting this very special episode of Spits in celebration of Peace Day. We're live from the daytime stage at the I Heart Radio Music Festival, and what you just heard or concert goers lending their voices for peace. Peace Day is where we put our
differences the side. Let's power of music bring us together, because when we realize that genetically we're all nive at the same and focus on what connects us, we get one step closer to peace one Day. We have gathered the most peaceful people we know to join us as we tackle the question what does it take to make peace? First off is Peace one Day Ambassador Artist Guy got to know a little bit Mike Pos and we're gonna see you, buddy. What get you get your beard full?
Full on? How long to take you to grow that thing? Maybe like eight nine months? It's very peaceful counting. It's like you're one. It's still growing it as we speaking currently, so posting it. Mike Posing is here Piece one Day founder. Jeremy Jeremy, how are you God? Jeremy. Yeah, it's great to be him man. Yeah, good to see. You've heard a lot of great things about you. I was walking up and they were like, you're gonna love Jeremy's like the best dude, So no pressure, but they like you
the best dude. Bunch of people doing a great joke to raise it day. We're really grateful. And uh, Tim Phillips, founder of Beyond Conflict, in nonprofit organization that works with leaders to address conflict and promote social change. And so, uh, this is a heavy room, Like Tim, it's a pleasure. Man. I'm three awesome people here. I don't even deserve to be in this room right now. That's crazy. So on today's episode, what we're talking about, like for real, is
what does it take to make peace? And I'll say this that you know, we as humans are genetically ninety nine point five per cent the same meaning if you go into our DNA for as different as we it seems that we are, and we look on TV or the Internet, it's like we look around everybody so different in reality if you're just using add and we're ninety nine point five percent the absolute same, meaning there's only zero point five percent of us that separates every human
on the planet, which is pretty awesome to know that we're in this thing together. And I think that's also why we're here, is because we really are on this together. Peace day is about reminding us how much we have in common. Jeremy, I want to come to you. Can you tell us a bit about your vision when creating Peace Day? Peace one Day? Yeah, I mean, I was, you know, nineteen years ago. I was concerned and confused
about what was going on in the world. You know, I couldn't understand the destruction and the starvation and the killing of innocent people, what we were doing to our planet, in each other, in our homes, communities, schools, and places of work. And so I thought, you know, I'll make a film about peace. And then I realized there was
no day of peace with a fixed calendar day. And so I had this idea that I'd make a documentary about trying to establish the first ever day of ceasefire and non violence, the first ever peace day with a fixed calendar date. And I hope that would bring us together, and out of that unity would come hope and a belief that you know, we know, by working together, we can you know, make a real difference and lift the level of consciousness around the fundamental issues that humanity faces.
And after years of traveling the world voted for the day. The twenty one September is now he stays celebrated by my heart and uh, you know twenty three and me last night. And when we once we've created that day, we then wanted to prove it could work, and that took us into Afghanistan. We spent a couple of years
trying to negotiate a ceasefire there, which eventually happened. The Talaman agreed to not kill or kidnap on that day, and that allowed us to mobilize around ten thousand vaccinators with UNICEF and w h O and vaccinate one point four million children against polio as a consequence of that, And then the last few years have been about telling
the people about the day. And that's why you know, what Mike did and what you guys are doing, what twenty three and me and what you know I Heart have done in terms of raising awareness of the day is a wonderful thing. So we're really grateful. Tell me about Afghanistan, Like, that's gotta be nuts, right, You're going into a place that super bold and you're going in and you're you're going to have this idea I need to negotiate with you, Like, is that scary for you?
As a human being. Well, no, I mean I think that. You know, when you climb the mountain, you know, you you focus on each grip. You know, you're not really looking at the you know, the top, you're not thinking about that. You just kind of like focused on on every moment. And that's what we did. And I had a lot of help from YUNAMA and NATO, ISAFF you know, cars I, the British government and many other parties including you know, obviously local people that were key and central
to the success of it. So you know, you don't really role like that. It's like you, guys, when you get on stage, you know, that's what you're on stage last night. I mean you got up there in front of I don't know, millions of people, nobody, nobody would be trying to shoot me. Well, that's crazy, Like you're an Afghanistan. Like that's that's brave. Like you have this noble thought in this bravery inside of it, which is why you're here. Like it's rare for someone to have
an idea. You said nineteen years ago, we said on the road nineteen years nineteen years you're chasing this idea, this grandiose idea, this beautiful idea and you're putting yourself in situations that aren't comfortable to make sure that this idea is achieved. What inside of you do you think it is? The push? Is that? Why? Why why do you keep going after nineteen years? Well? I think that why? You know the numbers like, so, what's gonna happen yesterday?
There would have been about a billion people now fully aware, there would have been around eighteen million, nineteen million people who changed their behaved yesterday. So that's a decrease of violence of around eight million people. And that's what fires me up, the idea that you know, on a day like this, people are mobilizing, they're changing their behavior in the home, the community, the school, and in places of work.
And that just blows my mind to think that a child wouldn't be bullied in the classroom as a consequence of them being involved in a peaceful activity. Is what this is all about. What's fascinating is around five six percent of the conflict that will happen today will happen in an area of conflict. The bulk of violences in our homes, community, schools, and places of work. And what fires me up is that when we generate awareness of
this day. Then that creates opportunities for people to engage in the peace process, and that decreases violence and creates a happier world. So you know, that's what keeps you going, right, you know, it's love that come on, that's crazy. And you know we go back and you know I talk about twenty three and me and you talk about peace and in our homes, you know, I say Afghanistan. But then you make a great point, like in our homes,
Like that's where it all starts for us. You know, we can have this peace in our homes and take it out another world and kind of spread the seed. But we are so much the same as people. I'm inspired right now to talking to you. Come on now, Michael, gonna talk to you. Mike Posner sitting right next to me, he's right to my right. So how how did you get involved? Like we're sitting here and we've set beside each other in other situations. How did you get involved
in this? Well, it's for me. It started when I heard the story of Christmas Day. The Middle World War One trench warfare, you know, rats, poisonous gas that the Germans are on one side, French and British or on the other in the middles no man's lamp. That's where
that term comes from the First World War. And on Christmas Day against orders, right, uh, the soldiers decide we're not fighting and in some parts of the line they exchange gifts, and other parts of the line they actually played games of soccer with each other side that should be fighting each other. And I heard this and I just, I mean still talking about it, the hair stands up on my arms, and I just thought to myself that they could. If they could do that that day, then
we all could do that for one day. And then that's when I found out myself about that there was a day dedicated to this, that a bunch of people were, you know, already practicing peace on this day, but not everyone, not everyone knew about it. I didn't know about it until I started looking. So I just wanted to um it help spread awareness. And that's when, yeah, we we connected with Jeremy and then connected with my heart, and dude,
what a story. I had no idea, Like you're telling me that you're talking about two sides that are fighting war with each other, like trying to kill each other for a cause, but because of Christmas Day, a piece day for them at the time that they were able to go, hey, let's just let's just set it aside for a second. Yes, it's like a glimpse of what is possible. I feel and if you, if you really think about it, we're evolved to to really care and
love about a hundred people like we. We we lived in tribes, you know, the human species, and through evolution and believing in in ideas and concepts, we you look at the concept of a nation where you might give your life for someone that you never met a million miles away, you know, across the country. So we've come a long way, right, and that we kind of we can see someone, hey, that that person is American. They're like me. So there's only a like, not that big
of a step to just see everyone like that. I'm making sense. You're making a lot of sense. And I wonder as you're you're talking about this and your creation, because you're you're constantly creating things, sounds, words, music, like, how does this that inside of you influence your music? Well? For me, I think that the outside world is a reflection of our collective inner world. Right, So if you got anger and hatred inside you and gets reflected in
and what the world looks like, you know. And so I was trying, always trying to purify, meditate my butt off. I've been spending some time as some monast theories and I saw that. Then you go do like a bunch of days. I did twelve days in solitude, you know it just just with myself, and you start to observe your own mind, and you see how wild it is and how negative it is sometimes and hateful it is sometimes, and you start to disidentify from it because this is
just my my brain muscle talking. It's not me. And uh, to answer your question, I just want to create more from more from that place, not my brain talking yammering in my mouth, more from that place of of connectedness. Love it so inspired. Right, look at you, guys, tam I want to talk to you for a second over there. And so I'm sitting at the table Tims on the other side of the table. Terms of tall, good looking fella,
How tall are you too tall? Too tall? As a conflict resolution expert, that's your that's what you are, right like, that's I'm the messing that up because that's a cool name, like that's it. Yeah, kind of conflict resolution expert or somebody's teaking to get it. How do you even how was that even the thing that you go, hey, I can do this, Like I just wonder you go, I can resolve conflict? Like how did you start in that area of of of your career or your your heart,
like where you want to fix things? Well, I was listening to what Mike and Jeremy had to say, and it really resonated with what I've observed over twenty five years um when I started it, I didn't start with this idea of becoming a conflict resolution person. I just sort of thought the world is pretty screwed up, and
you see a lot of conflict emerging. This is around the end of the Cold War, So on one hand it was positive with the end of the Cold War, but also the Balkans and other countries are falling apart. And I often say, being the youngest child of a large family ever problem with authority. And I remember going to Eastern Europe in the region, thinking why don't these people get together with people who themselves had been through
conflicts or transitions from dictatorship to democracy. It was Argentina and Chile and Spain after Franco. So with this very simple notion that there is a shared human experience that if you bring people together to see that others have struggled to change it come out the other side, that that could be really valuable. And so that's what began the journey. And when I started, there really was no
failed or conflict resolution. And frankly, you know, the conflict is inherent in society, so it's really about how do you manage coexistence and and so we've worked in seventy five countries and one of the most important things I've learned, starting from a friend in Central America, he said, all conflict is fundamentally driven by exclusion. You know, when you don't feel safe in the world, you really can't engage
in the world. Um. And then more recently we've started working with brain and behavioral scientists because they're sitting in these apps, in these silos with profound knowledge of what it is to be human, you know. And I was mentioning to somebody yesterday that it even shows which is interesting tied to twenty three and me, is that the same part of our brain that experiences trauma can't differractuate between physical and emotional trauma, So we experience uh, humiliation
and exclusion as physical pain in our brains. So when you start I'm packing that you start to see how much all of this really connects. This reminds me of of some experiences I had meditating at the monastery. You feel anger come up and for and if you really track it, I would have a a thought first, and then you're absolutely right, you experience I mean, anger is a real thing in your body. For me, I feel in my left leg, I feel hot, right, and it's
a it's a physical thing. It's not real to anyone else, but real to you. You know, Geman, let me ask you this, how do we facilitate making people feel like they belong? Well, I think it's really interesting what you were talking about in terms of humiliation and exclusion, because absolutely right, when you're humiliated and you're excluded, then of course you've got no other option, right to but to fight your way out of it if that's the position
you've been put in. And what a tragedy that is for those who are in that situation, especially young kids in schools. Right, And that's uh, you know, a real focus for us in terms of Peace Day. Um so, I you know, I think that you know, it's uh, it's an interesting you know situation where we face and uh, you know, we've got to do all we can to raise awareness of Peace Day, you know, manifest action on
the day and get people involved. Tim, what do you what do you think is holding us back from the piece that we're trying to create, Like what what's the first boulder in the road that we can move. We have this instinct to try to ascribe others intentions and who they are in the world, right, to try to feel safe. What we all want is to be seen is did you see under the under student and validated as we see ourselves in the world. And I don't mean this in any sort of like kumbayahweh. You know,
science is now confirming that right. As one scientist said to me who got me interested in science, He said, you know, we're not these rational beings with emotions at our core. We're emotionally based beings who can only think rationally when we fail that our identities are understood and valued in the world. And with that at the starting point, I mean, I've just seen that at every level of
conflict and transformation around the world. And I've seen in our country now, and I think, you know, we have to recognize what fundamentally drives human nature is to be seen and validated and feel safe. We're wide for survival um our brains. It's really amazing our brains evolved to be predictive and not reactive. We're constantly predicting our environment, which is where do I fit in? Do I fit in? And when you don't fit in, you feel like you
don't belong. So belonging is a fundamental biological need that humans have. And I think we'll begin to achieve peace when we recognize that that's what we all want and that's what the others around us wants. With twenty three and me, I've I've done it, and you know, you start to see your genetic genetic makeup, and you know, the things that you can learn about yourself to help
even your things are prettyisposed to even. And so whenever I say that we're nine point five the same as everyone else, Mike, what do you think about that number? And what does that say to you? And that we kind of are the same and we can do the same thing. The first thing I think about when when you asked me that question was a few years ago and a few albums ago. I thought that my brand
of sadness and suffering was unique. I thought, Man, I feel crummy sometimes, and no one understands that my sadness is very special. It's a special strand of sadness, but it's really not. We all know what it's like to feel lonely, to feel rejected, to feel alone, to feel not seen, and um, that in itself, you know, is a uniting factor for me. So I don't think I
answered your question directly, but that's where I went with it. Well, what I think that even I took from you saying that is that, you know, the uniting factor is that like we kind of already are united, we just don't even know it yet. Like we're the same. We just
have been told we're not. We've been shown that we're not, but we haven't been shown enough that we are the same, you know, And listening to you know, to listen to you guys talk about that, it's it's an education, you know, we were not educated yet on and on really our similarities, on how we love the same one and how he Mike's just talking about how he doesn't have this unique
brand of sadness. We all have the same sadness. We just don't share it with each other, so we don't know, you know, we don't have the education of happiness, empathy, and so we feel alone when we're not. I feel the same sad that you feel. But I feel so alone because I don't know whether you feel that. And I love that's what you guys are out here doing.
You know, it's an education, you know, you know, Jeremy, I'll come back over to you, like as you're here and you're working with Ihart Radio and twenty three and me like, when you leave here, what would be like a good takeaway for someone like myself and even for you to leave with people that are they're here And I think it's really interesting that we talked about unity and we talked about education, and you know, education I
think is absolutely key to humanity survival. I think if we want to live in a peaceful and sustainable world, then we've got to give the tools to young people to be able to resolve those issues in a really fundamental way. I mean, how can you expect it to all change if we haven't given the skills to young people to be able to do that, right, I mean so, so I think that the twenty one September is an
incredible opportunity for unity. And as I said earlier, out that comes hope and a belief that we can climb the mountain together when we're one the strength in that, and out of that strength comes all kinds of incredible ideas that really can lift the level of consciousness around the fundamental issues. So my take away from this is that it's amazing how music, you know, can drive awareness of something and that where awareness manifest action, you know.
And I'm just really excited that you know, Mike reaching out to me and that beautiful poem that he wrote, and those amazing artists and my heart and twenty three and me have just told an awful lot of people about the twenty one September, and I think that, you know, by working together, you know, we can create peace one day. So you know, I would say to everyone, you know, bring the family together. We want peace every day, not just one day. So you know, tomorrow just think about
bringing the family together. Who have you fallen out with, you know, get let's get together. We we change the quality of our relationships and our families, then that's absolutely everything. And if we're doing that all over the world, then nobody will be excluded. And that's real peacemaking. Peace and change and a better world is in our hands. It's not in the hands of governments. Mike gol may ask
you this before we jump. Tell us what you're doing with I Heart Radio and twenty three and during the festival here four Peace day, like you keep you're here, like specifically what even doing well? Uh? I wrote a poem. I read it. It's awesome, thank you. I wrote a poem that you and a bunch of amazing artists man Mari carry carry underweard Sam Smith logic. I mean the list goes on already, line of they played this video of this list it up during the during the festival,
and they're gonna put it out online. Um so yeah, that was just start my little way of creating a piece of art for the for the day. That's cool. Man, I loved it. I read it. Love carries Yeah when she texted it over two minies, that's cool. Let's just say a second to talk about what you guys are doing individually. Tim, I'll start with you, like what you know, what's happening right now with you? Do you like to share?
Maybe people will hear this and be inspired, or maybe they can go and be educated on something you're involved in right now. Well, you know, just picking up on what Jeremy was saying and what you're both saying earlier. You know, we have a project in the United States now called Prempting Racism. Turns out, this is what's great about work, and we brain scientists children from birth to
three don't show any racial preference white and black. Around six months, children recognize difference, but they don't make a preference. So you have to teach children to either be racist or to be X, y and z, depending on context. And what we're doing is looking at, okay, what are those things that could literally create the conditions in the brain where children can see difference but not make a preference based on social construction. You know, the stereotype is
really what drives it. And so I think the more we focus on children and recognize we actually have a capacity to shape their brains too. You know, there's there's a lot of shop out there in the world. There's a lot of stuff there's in't cognitive ecosystem that's shutting us down, saying you can't be this, you can't be that. Well, we can actually flip that and put a cognitive ecosystem out there that says subtly and not so subtly, you can be whatever you want to be, and that actually
works and that's really powerful. The scientists show what it works. It changes Jeremy, I ask you the same thing, man. I love that you can be whatever you want to be. Man, It's just totally right, isn't It is? What an awesome, wonderful thought that is. So yeah, what am I doing?
I mean, we we're planning the twenty celebration. So it's been a hundred twenty three countries, nineteen years on the road and we've got our twenty years celebration on the twenty one September next year, so you know, a lot of preparations for that and that would be really exciting. We're also creating some education, new education materials. You know, we've got education resources at the moment being used in a hundred and thirty countries and we want to expand
on that. We want to embrace the global goals, the Great goals of the world's face in terms of creating materials around those which we're doing. And we also want to do a load of work in Japan, where I've just been recently, and and then we've done Screwed Creators
and technology. I've been working with some technology companies for the last year and a half and we're just creating a new application, a new profiling system which is all about impact and values to really inspire and engage people and to say, look, let's look at a human being not just for the qualifications, but let let's look at them for the rich kaleid discope of beauty of color that they actually are. And that's all about their values and their impact, and let's look at people for that
as much as how intelligent they are. So, you know, that's something we've been working on for a long time and I look forward to delivering it and hopefully working with my heart and twenty three and me and Mike again in the future, because this has been such a trip, and just to want to take this opportunity to thank everybody, Bobby and you for you know, letting me be here today. Oh you're kidding, this is awesome. Mike let's talk about
your project for a second. Let's time in music. I was like about, let's talk what you got out there in the world. Yeah, I got a new record coming out in January, and I just put the first single out. It's call Song About You. Yeah good. We were just talking before. I was just getting ready to ride the roller coaster again. You know, you feel good. I feel good.
I feel honestly a little scared because you know, you do what you do waves of this right, you know, I'll go, I'll go, you know, to the monastery or to the meditation retreating. And I've really been spending the last two years writing, you know, and recording, and then uh, you start to see it come out in the world, and you start to see that success coming your way, and it's a good problem to have, but it's a little scary, honestly, starting to get more busy if you
know about that. Well, listen, oh you guys, My Jeremy, tim Like, I think I take in away something from this is sitting with you guys, Like it's really been a pleasure for me to like look at you guys in the eyeballs and see how invested you guys are and just making the world like one percent better, Like at a time. You know you're talking about climbing the mountain, each grip, you know it's about one percent better. Like I tell I live my life. I don't try to
get a eight percent better. I try to do it one percent at a time. Those one percent started to add up before you know, at one percent, seven percent, seven percent, fourteen percent. All of a sudden, You're like, man, I've actually made a difference in me, which made a difference to somebody else. So I'm inspired by you guys, and uh yeah, I'm appreciate it that you guys are
sitting here with me. Uh for everyone listening, commit to peace with us, share acts of peace using the hashtag peace Day and check out Mike, Mariah Carey, Carrie Underwood, Sam Smith, Jared Letto, Logic, Nick Jonas, myself by Buddy, Ryan Seacrest, and so many more sharing a special message. Uh it's it's a message of piece. Let's go to iHeart radio dot com slash Peace Day. So thank you, guys. I really appreciate. We're gonna wrap it up, but I feel like, man, you gotta crushed it and I'm ready
to go make some peace right now? Are you kidding me? All right? Thank you guys, thanks for twenty three and me thanks to I Heart Radio. Thanks to you guys than we have this amazing recording studio in the middle of the daytime stage at the I Heart Radio Music Festival, and we asked attendees to share their messages of peace with us. But what we got with so much more. Take a lesson and get inspired to spread your own
peace today. We are all connected, We're all connected, we are all we are all connected, connect all, we are all one. We are all one, one planet, one race, one consciousness. And I am one person taking one action to get us closer to peace, one day, closer closer to piece, one day to piece, one day. Who will you make peace with today? Will you make Who will you make peace with? Today? Is there someone you would like to make peace with? I myself would like to
make peace with my stepfather. I'd really like to make peace with my half brother. We've got in a really big fight and our share DNA could really bring us back together. The one person that I want to make peace with it it's my mom because I will not so good lately. So love you, Mom. I hope to
forgive myself today. I battle every day with the struggle of thinking that I'm not doing enough, and I hope one day that I can forgive myself and be proud of everything that I've overcome and how far I've come since my battle with cancer. Your fellow man is fighting something, no matter what way, shape, or form it is, They're fighting something deep down and they need your help. Just be more forgiving and give people a benefit of a doubt, and do your best to help people when you can.
We're all genetically alike. As cliche as it is, it's love. Love is the only thing that can bring us that extra point five percent together, whether that's a smile or a wave or a simple hello um to someone who's
a different race, different ethnicity, different age, anything. Humanity can just look at love and not look at hatred and what separates us, and could just look at love and connectivity and stop judging other people and just control ourselves because the only people that we can control, the only happiness that we can control with ourselves. So just be happy. I love everyone else. Learning one new thing about someone else could curve so much ignorance and fear and hatred
from the world and bring us all together. And I know at the end, one day we can achieve world peace together. I want to dig in more on today's topics and guests. Check our show notes and if you enjoy the episode, share it with friends, all your friends, and be sure to leave us a review. If you want to hear more surprising stories about how we're all related, search and follow Spit on iHeart Radio or subscribe whenever you listen to podcasts. Spit is an I Heart Radio
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