What's our basis for trust in public broadcasters?

Denis Muller, media editor, research consultant and specialist on media ethics and accountability, talks to Jess and Charlie about the role of public broadcasters in light of recent BBC controversy, and how the ABC stacks up in comparison. Jess and Charlie also talk about Paul Keating’s tough-love AUKUS opinions in his National Press Club address, and what ethical editing means in a news environment of such high output.