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Nov 26, 2024•52 min•Season 4Ep. 7
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Mary + Amy's Debate Preview: What Project 2025 Tells Us About Trump, What Harris Is and Isn't Saying About Climate, and More
Will we hear anything about climate in Harris's first debate with Trump? What can we glean from Project 2025 about how Trump will approach environmental justice? Plus re-thinking the climate movement and politics, with Mary Annaïse Heglar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 09, 2024•50 min•Season 4Ep. 6
Could You Really Charge Oil Companies with Murder? Plus: Supreme Court Climate Update
This week, we bring you an episode from our climate litigation podcast, Damages, because we've been getting SO MANY emails about what sorts of legal strategies might still be available for climate accountability given everything happening at the Supreme Court. Public Citizen has been working with various prosecutors to explore the idea of using criminal law to hold oil companies accountable for climate change, but is it really viable? The group's senior climate policy counsel, Aaron Regunburg, j...
Jul 09, 2024•36 min•Season 4Ep. 5
ProPublica's Abrahm Lustgarten on Climate Migration
In his new book, On the Move, ProPublica climate reporter Abrahm Lustgarten digs into the ways climate change is re-shaping where people live and how they move in the U.S. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 25, 2024•44 min•Season 4Ep. 4
John Kasper: A Guy Who Sucked
Over the years we've talked a lot about the intersection between civil rights and climate change. Now Mary Annaïse Heglar has a novel out (her first!) that lives in that intersection and it's fascinating. On this episode she brings us the story of a guy who fought the desegregation of schools, and why it's important to remember the many ways in which the fight for climate action and the fight for racial justice overlap. Help Mary's Aunt Jackie: https://www.gofundme.com/f/pej5x-please-help-me-sup...
May 30, 2024•52 min•Season 4Ep. 3
Maddie Stone on Microsoft's Role in the Climate Crisis
In a new story co-published by Grist and Drilled, Microsoft employees who spent years fighting the tech giant's oil ties are speaking out about the worker-led effort to get the world's most valuable company to stop helping the oil and gas industry drill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
May 08, 2024•35 min•Season 4Ep. 2
Welcome to Spill and Happy Earth Day: Freeing Palestine Is a Climate Issue
Hot Take co-hosts Mary Annaïse Heglar and Amy Westervelt are back with a new show blending climate news updates and cultural commentary, plus a monthly Hot Take-style conversation. In our first episode: what else? A conversation about the intersection between the war on Gaza and the climate crisis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 22, 2024•55 min•Season 4Ep. 1
Climate News Update: The New Carbon Majors + Swiss Elders Win Landmark Climate Case
Lots of news lately on stories we've been following, so in today's episode: an update! The landmark Carbon Majors report has been updated with some surprising new data, and the European Court of Human Rights has sent down an historic ruling that will shape how EU legislators look at energy and climate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 16, 2024•41 min
Slow Factory's Céline Semaan on Climate Justice, Collective Liberation, and Building an Unbreakable Movement
When Celine Semaan began calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, she was surprised at the backlash she and her team at Slow Factory got, including multiple funders pulling their support. Today, Semaan is more determined than ever to push for climate justice and collective liberation. Pre-order A Woman Is a School: https://shop.slowfactory.earth/products/a-woman-is-a-school Check out course(s) on Open Edu: https://slowfactory.earth/open-edu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...
Apr 02, 2024•44 min
Messy Conversations: Rhiana Gunn-Wright on What the Climate Movement Loses When It Excludes Environmental Justice
Rhiana Gunn-Wright was one of the architects of the Green New Deal, and today works as the climate policy director for the Roosevelt Institute. In this episode we get into the nuances of the IRA, how to handle climate being a "culture war" issue, what's going on with anti-renewables, and what the climate movement loses when it turns its back on justice issues and particularly when it turns its back on the Black community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 05, 2024•1 hr 1 min
Messy Conversations: How to Talk to Kids about Climate Change, with Mary Annaïse Heglar — a Mini Hot Take Reunion!
Mary Annaïse Heglar's first book is out today, and it's a children's book about climate change. It's the first of *three* climate books Mary has coming out in the near future (the other two are a novel, called Troubled Waters, and an essay collection of Black writers on climate). She has been busy writing up a storm since we wrapped up Hot Take (and we've roped her into editing stories for Drilled, too). In this episode we talk about her books, what's happening in climate media in general, and t...
Feb 27, 2024•52 min
Messy Conversations: Akshat Rathi on Climate Capitalism
Bloomberg climate reporter Akshat Rathi joins us to discuss his new book Climate Capitalism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 05, 2023•39 min
The Climate Impacts of Deep-Sea Mining
Some mining companies claim that we can't "electrify everything" without deep-sea mining—a claim that has been debunked by various scientists. Environmentalists, car companies, and governments are pushing back, citing not only the obvious potential damage to marine ecosystems but also the climate impact of releasing carbon from the ocean floor. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 03, 2023•24 min
Introducing: Inherited — Climate Youth Stories From Around the World
In the Season 3 premiere of Inherited, host Shaylyn Martos introduces us to storyteller Camara Aaron, who shares a personal story of family loss, structural resilience, and survival in an era of climate change. Camara, now 25, was only a child when she visited her grandmother’s unique house on the island of Dominica, in the West Indies. But when Hurricane Maria devastated the Caribbean in 2017, her grandmother died in the storm, leaving Camara to sift through her own hazy memories and reconcile ...
Jul 20, 2023•32 min
F$#%, Marry, Kill Big Oil
For our last episode of Hot Take, Amy and Mary revisit their favorite jokes, and dig into the listener mailbag to answer questions from Hot Cakes around the globe. Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 30, 2022•1 hr 16 min
The Zombie Apocalypse Is Real
This week, Amy and Mary discuss zombie ice viruses, the Keystone pipeline spill in Kansas, a global biodiversity crisis, the degrowth movement, and more. Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 16, 2022•1 hr 31 min
Won't Someone Think of The Children
This week, Amy and Mary chat with Rebecca Nagle - an Indigenous journalist, host of This Land, and long-time friend of the show. They discuss Brackeen v. Haaland (a legal case threatening Indian Law), why Indigenous issues are so under covered, Landback, and more. Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 09, 2022•1 hr 27 min
'Tis the Season to Want Nothing
Just in time for the holiday season, Amy and Mary chat with Aja Barber - a writer, stylist and consultant who works at the intersections of fashion and sustainability. They dive into the problems with fast fashion, and its worst offender and Aja's sworn enemy Shein. They discuss Aja’s recent book - Consumed, talk about more ethical options for gift giving, and more. Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 02, 2022•1 hr 29 min
Call the COPs
Amy and Mary break down this year's COP27 in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, and explore the history of U.N. climate conferences beginning with the first summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992. They also discuss the unseemly presence of fossil fuel companies at the meeting, loss and damages, climate debt, and more Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 18, 2022•1 hr 28 min
No Country for Centrist Dems
This week on Hot Take, Amy and Mary break down the midterms, examine the shadowy billionaires funding Republican candidates, and give an honest review of Elon’s performance as Twitter's CEO. Spoiler: He’s failing, but it might be on purpose. Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 11, 2022•1 hr 32 min
Every Election Is a Climate Election with Rhiana Gunn Wright
This week on Hot Take, Amy and Mary speak with Rhiana Gunn-Wright - Director of Climate Policy at the Roosevelt Institute and one of the architects of the Green New Deal. With the midterms right around the corner, they discuss shifting narratives around climate, the IRA, and much more. Later on, Amy and Mary make sense of the phenomena of flying soup that’s taking the art world by storm, and break down a horrific take from a New York Times opinion writer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ...
Nov 04, 2022•1 hr 33 min
Election Spooktacular
This week on Hot Take, Amy and Mary pick apart the climate implications and nuances in key midterm races (Fetterman, Booker, Barnes, Beto), plus the upcoming Brazilian presidential election. They look ahead to COP and the conversation around loss and damages (read: reparations), and the Nigeria floods. Oh, and Amy gets crafty for Halloween! Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 28, 2022•1 hr 31 min
On the Frontlines of the Climate Crisis
This week on Hot Take, Mary is joined by Sara Sneath, investigative reporter and alligator doula and Drew Costley, climate & environment reporter at The Associated Press. They discuss how to approach communities in the throes of a climate disaster, the tension between chronic and acute crises, trauma-informed reporting, and the disabled community. And, gators! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 21, 2022•1 hr 15 min
Climate Candidates To Watch In The Midterms
This week on Hot Take, Amy & Mary discuss the new wave of Southern Black Democrats running on climate centric platforms and break down the important climate cases before the Supreme Court. They also bring updates on this year’s hurricane season and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 14, 2022•1 hr 25 min
Reclaiming Identity Politics with Olúfemi Táíwò
This week on Hot Take, Amy & Mary talk to Olúfemi Táíwò, author and Associate Professor of Philosophy at Georgetown, about tokenism, reparations, how the powerful have appropriated identity politics and turned it into a tool of division, and more. Taiwo is the author of Elite Capture and Reconsidering Reparations and a real-life philosopher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 07, 2022•1 hr 23 min
Hurricane Season Heats Up
This week on Hot Take, Amy & Mary give updates on Hurricane Ian, Manchin's failed permitting bill, discontent in Europe, and more. Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake and sign up for our newsletter at hottakepod.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 30, 2022•1 hr 7 min
Ask a Scientist, with NASA’s Dr. Kate Marvel
Today on Hot Take, Mary and Amy are joined by Kate Marvel, climate scientist at NASA, who answers listener questions about acid rain, geoengineering, astrology, and more. Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake and sign up for our newsletter at hottakepod.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 23, 2022•1 hr 20 min
Follow the Money, Eat the Rich
We hear all the time that acting on climate can upset the delicate balance of the economy, worsen inflation, kills jobs. So on and so forth. But is it true? Today on Hot Take, Mary and Amy are joined by Akshat Rathi, Senior Climate Reporter at Bloomberg, to break down the barriers and dispels the myths between the world of finance and the world we live on. Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake and sign up for our newsletter at hottakepod.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adcho...
Sep 16, 2022•1 hr 8 min
Both Sides of the Mississippi
For this week’s Hot Take Labor Day special, Mary and Amy look into the connections between labor unions and the climate movement, the mega droughts in China and California, and the ongoing water crisis in Jackson, Mississippi. Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake and signup for our newsletter at hottakepod.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 09, 2022•1 hr 22 min
Climate Colonialism 101
This week on Hot Take, Mary and Amy talk to Abrahm Lustgarten about how colonialism, both in the past and the present, put the weight of the climate crisis on the shoulders of the people who did the least to create it. As a lens, they use Abrahm's Propublica investigation of Barbados' (and other Caribbean nations) attempt to navigate the intersection of climate change and debt. This conversation was taped on the anniversary of Hurricanes Katrina and Ida, during devastating floods in Pakistan and...
Sep 02, 2022•1 hr 13 min
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