THE SNOWBALL GAMES

had the snowplow game earlier on Special Teams. Today, well, let's finish up the weather with snowball games. Three big games, three big football games that were affected by fans throwing snowballs on the field. So this kind of I feel like this is this is one of our opus. Is like the weather opus that we we started with with with the Freezer Bowl, and now we're ending here with some snowball games. I feel like it's part of like the the Lord of the Rings, this is our quest.

We just hit another season. Uh so here you go with the first snowball game coming to you in nineteen eighty five game between the forty Niners and the Broncos. Now, both these teams who you could say we're teams of the eighties and teams of late eighties. Uh, they were both just okay so far at this point in the Niners have won fifteen games in the Super Bowl. The year before, they drafted Jerry Rice in the off season, and this was like, hey boy, the nine we're rolling.

But for the forty Niners, it was a season of frustration. They never really got going enough. And look eighty five, of course was the five Bears. Meanwhile, for the Broncos, they were a trendy Super Bowl pick. They had draft Advance Johnson. Remember that that was when they had the amigos,

like the three of me, go Watcher Sivers. You know, it was a big game for both of the teams at this point in the season, because you're talking about in November, heyty, Broncos nationally televised game, and it turned out to be a game that potentially turned on one snowball being thrown. It was not you, my Carmen, because this fits into your wheelhouse of you be the troublemaker when you were a kid, well a bit of an agitator. Uh. College, I was a guy that was around the big ten

a ton. But you know five, I was just uh you know, a kid in in middle school, trying to play football, trying to do my thing. Actually I was. I had to had to have a surgery that had me sitting around and doing nothing but watching football for that fall. I had to miss a season with the surgery, which which was awful. But what are you gonna do? Uh? You sitting watching a lot of good football and a lot of curious moments much like this one. But yes, if I'd been in the crowd like I was in

my college days, snow might have found my hand. I think so. I also might have been the guy yelling at people to not do it. I don't know now now that back then, Now now you're that guy? Though, Now that would be you think I'm that guy? And would that make me a Karen Nacular? Isn't it Karen and ken right? Because you don't hear about Kenza, But it's like Karen and ken right those that's what's that's okay. Uh. So here we are November eleventh, Dan Reeves and the

Broncos hosting Bill Walsh and the forty Niners. Uh, there was no snow on the ground believe there for a snowball game. There was no snow on the field. It had been shoveled off. Right. The game started out well for the Broncos. Elway through a couple of touchdowns, one to Steve Watson, Denver was up fourteen three. San Francisco couldn't really mount a lot of offense, but near the end of the first half they drive down to the Denver three yard line. This is where it becomes the

snowball game, right. San Francisco had no timeouts. They wanted to get a scoring before halftime, because look, they're trailing four teen three. So Ray Worshing comes out for a twenty yard field goal and the holder is wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, Mat Kavanaugh, who was the holder for the game winning field goal in the snowplow game. So if there's snow involved and you need a field goal, well Matt Kavanaugh, he is your holder.

So on this play, two snowballs actually get thrown. So the snap comes and whoever was throwing the snowballs from the stands wanted a time and so they threw the snowball, so it landed on the field and potentially distracted Ray Worshing. All right, So what happens is you see the snowballs hit the ground. Kavanaugh says he was distracted, he lost concentration, couldn't catch the ball and place it down. This is a chip shot twenty yard field goal, so he tries

to throw it in a scrum. He can't. Denver takes over. They kill the clock. They go to halftime up four teen three. You know what's funny, though, Jason, right there is the end of that play would be a would have been a fifteen yard flag all day every day. Now. The defender comes up and butts him in the head. Yeah, knocks him. It's like, what the hell? That's like, that's

one where there's a pedally flag immediately. He also didn't sell it right, Kevana, you gotta go to the ground like you you just got hit by a Rick Flair Judo chop man. And that that's one that Kavanaugh failed on. So the Broncos go on to win the game seventeen sixteen, Right, fourteen three and a a half time, they win seventeen sixteen Rich Carlos game winning field goal of the minute twenty seven left to go. So this field goal play turned

out to be a really big deal. And if you watch this replay, you can see the two snowballs come in and you can easily tell that Kavanaugh looks like he's distracted. Right. He tries, but you can see, okay, whether the corners I or something else, and he doesn't the ball cleanly and he can't put it down. And it's amazing to see it because it's it looks like it's just ice that hits the ground in a couple of spots and and and splatters. When you see it live,

you can't really see it. But on the replay you see the snowballs fly in hit the ground, and that distracts Kavanaugh. You can't put the football down. Now. The referee at the time, Jim Tunney, said they couldn't call a foul on the home team as a result of somebody throwing a snowball on the field, right, So we couldn't call a foul home team. They did wind up increasing security at halftime because it was a people are

throwing snowballs on the field. We we don't want this to happen, so let's put uh let's let's put more security on the field. But they said they couldn't call a foul on the home team, when now they would they would usher a warning saying, anybody does us again, you're gonna wind up getting thrown now as to be a fifteen yard penalty and you would see that um. But there was nothing they could do on this. So it goes in the books as as an unsuccessful field

goal attempt. And it's just crazy to see that this is what winds up costing a team the game. And after the game was over, Dan Reeves, head coach of the Broncos, said it probably didn't disrupt the play because Kavanaugh didn't argue at that time. So I'm like, okay, so because you didn't argue, it didn't disrupt the play. Yeah, okay.

Uh And and look, and it was one of those situations where it's difficult because you can see what can you really do about it, and there's not a lot to do, but still to see it go down this way,

you could just tell something was wrong here. Well, it's funny because they actually in the broadcast because you know, if you if you can go back and watch young Joe Montana and John Elway, you're gonna do this right, and then you're gonna light this up is that they didn't come back after a bit of a time out to say here's the SlowMo, which was brilliant, right to bring that back. Uh, and Frank Gifford on the call, Hey, there's the snowball. I spoke of, man, that had to

be distracting. One of those kind of moments. You can see the second one here. You know you figured five years later you got to tell us straighter and boom, see there's a snowball right there. Even I had a John Madden like effect as it went. But you know, they certainly made sure to point that out there. And some technological glitches over the course of the telecast too that made it interesting. Hey, we didn't get to show you this angle before, but we got a beam back

from New York, so let's see this. So they did that on the field goal, they did that on some other things. But yeah, the fact that he didn't go and argue it was it was the time. Man. It looks like like, hey, did you see that, Hey, we look what's going on. I looked like he was still incredulous that this is what went on, This is this

is what happened. You know. It was weird, but that's what Dan Reeves hooked onto as he said, quote, I don't think Kevin Off thought of effect in him, because if it did, he'd be standing there arguing with the official. Right now, Here's where Dan Reeves, who never releases anything and never really said anything while he was a head coach, he was a master of of of of coach speak

where he could talk for hours and just not say anything. Uh. He said this quote, I think if you shot me with a thirty odd six when I was a holder, you've still got to catch that football. So here's Dan Reeves. Yeah, here's a foot, there's snowball that was started. Helped my team win. But you know what, Yeah, hey, I would catch that ball. You gotta catch that ball. You could have shot me, you still got to catch the football and put it down. This is Dan Reeves saying that

after the game. I dig that though. I mean, you can put that on a T shirt these days. Look how now many people in the NFL after this was over, said that the officials should have intervened in this but didn't. And here's a big quote Giants general manager George Young remember New York Giants for something coming up later in this podcast. New York Giants general manager George Young said it was a disgrace. We have a game that's decided on something like a snowball, and clearly that field goal.

Maybe game doesn't end with a nineteen seventeen when, but it's a different game, and clearly you're adding three more points to the forty niners total, and maybe the game does and differently. After this was over, people in San Francisco were so pissed, and rightfully so. The San Francisco Examiner offered five hundred dollars for an interview with the person who threw the snowball, and a young guy came forward, apologized for it, did the interview, but didn't take the money.

Now I'll do what. I'll talk about it. But he didn't take the money. So I was like, wow, he came forward to that, if I'm doing that, I'm taking the money. Unless he thought, like it's the movies. Hey, they're gonna say they're gonna pay me, They're gonna find out where I live and there there's gonna be guys there and and and I'm not gonna like that. I'm gonna have to be on the run for the rest of my life and suddenly I'm I'm hopping freight cars from town to town and and and living on the

railroad tracks. I don't want that. No, no, no, you keep your money going down to Bartman Road is what you're saying there. I mean, but it's like knock out the door. Who's there? Goons? Who iron goons? Uh? And I don't know that is a curiosity. Five hundred bucks at the time, that's pretty decent money. I didn't look never never say five isn't a lot of money. But you know, for throwing the snowball and coming forward, which

means he would have had to identify himself. So he was the identity of this dude in the process, whether he took the money or not. I just gotta say, though, Jason, it was it was a gift to go back in time and watch a young spride. John Elway running a flee flicker was Jim but running the flea flicker and advanced Johnson. There was a play where he started getting towards the sideline, didn't quite tap out fast enough for Ronnie Lott's taste, so he kind of bumped him a bit.

And because it's wet and slippery, Elway goes down, so all hell breaks loose. I mean, you got all sorts of cool little moments watching this game. Game John Joe Montana trying to do his magic, and Roger Craig coming up short uh to to cement the game at Rice with an athletic catch, but he's two feet out of bounce like that's fun. But he also took the official down with him, so I think maybe the officials were

still salty. I mean, there's so much going on, but it's fun to go down memory lane and and you forget about the snowball game. Now remember George Young, Jim of the Giants. It's ridiculous, it's cost that way. Dan Reeves, head coach of the Broncos, doesn't matter. You gotta catch that. Just remember those two names, because if you like the snowball game here, you ain't heard nothing yet. That's coming up next right here on special Teams. So snowball game

in our rear view mirror. Remember the names again, George Young, Giants, GM, Dan Reeves, head coach of the Denver Broncos, because we are jumping ahead now ten years to the next snowball game, which lives in infamy in NFL history as the New York Giants, who were then coached by Dan Reeves, hosted the San Diego Chargers in the final game of the season.

This game is notable because this was a year where San Diego had a huge run of the playoffs where they started four and seven but won their last five games to get in. You know, starting the run of the Charges when every year all the Chargers are terrible the first few games and they go on a big run. This was the first game year where they had that big run four and seven, They win five in a row to get to the playoffs. Now the Giants, they were done right there, five and ten. They're finishing out

the Season's the final game of the regular season. So in New York in the winter, it gets snowy. Now, the snow wasn't on the field because the snow was was pushed off, but it was on the corners of the fields, and it was all over the stands, all right. Somehow, the Giants in this game get up seventeen nothing while fans are throwing snowballs at each other in the stands. This is New York, all right, or New Jersey. Hey, the game we're winning. Yeah, but let's throw snowballs at

each other. I mean, this is the Giants are terrible, and then there's they're playing for nothing and the Chargers are playing for everything and the Giants get up seventeen nothing. So what do you think is gonna happen? Well, you got a bunch of New Yorkers and New Jerry have a snowball. Fine, you know you, You and me I. Everybody turns into Rocky Bell boy, you know you. And so eventually it gets to, hey, no, we should do a forget about throwing stuff at each other. How ably

show some stuff on the field of the players. I mean, that's New York. So they started throwing snowballs at the players on the field and players started getting hitting with these snowballs regularly. This wasn't like one or two, but this was snowballs are being bombed every few seconds because there was so much snow in the stands that they were hitting the players. And this is where things started

to get out of control. Yeah, the report was that Wednesday of that week they had about a foot of snowfall by game time, and this is a Saturday game. They moved it from the aisles and the the well the seats were cleared, but it was all under the seats and packed and condensed, and because it was cold. We're also not just talking snowballs, we're talking ice balls, and that that become part of this. So about fifty people in attendance trying to pass the time and finish

off the season. Yeah, that's uh, that's a recipe for disaster. Well, don't forget. You have to add alcohol to this because as the game is going on, people are drinking and you know, shock, hey, wait stop, people are drinking beer and alcohol NFL games. As the beer gets flowing, things get even more crazy. It's not like, hey, you know, after a while, everybody stopped throwing snowballs at the players.

It's just keep drinking and throwing snowballs. The Giants start giving away the lead on the field, the Chargers start coming back, and it's crazy. So now you have fans who are really upset, and snowballs are flying faster, more consistently. You can see the games, you can see the highlights of this game. You just see snowballs into the picture. Out of the picture. Every few feet you see one

laughing Giants. Officials said they saw kids throwing snowballs on the field and Dad's given them I fives after their Hey, that was a good troke, Tommy. I bet you cant throwing far to out. You know, Hey, how about I'll buy you a bicycle if you control want to hit somebody on the field. That's a good one, Tommy. Hi five.

I mean that's really what it was. That that's what you went all good fellas at the end there too, you're like, I went, Tommy, Hey, Tommy know, just amazing video, man, Just yeah, the way in the way it starts to flow, because look, we're used to seeing games in Philadelphia, Chicago and other places where you'll have the you know, snowball here, a snowball there. This is just a constant barrage. Yeah, and then that we're we're only in the third quarter

at this point. Yeah, I mean you feel like, okay, you're no, no, no, you're only the third quarter. Because like I said, things always get more and more insane the more alcohol, the more time you bring. And in the third quarter of this game, uh, a security guard gets hit with a snowball. Then a fight breaks out

in the stand. So now violence is going on. Snowball start coming down from the upper deck, which if you throw a snowball from the upper deck in a football game, you had somebody you could really hurt them, especially with a lot of these being made up of ice, because it's not like you know, you just this is just all like fresh fallen snow and hits you and and falls off, and you go, oh, it's funny. You'll have

a snowball fighting like. This is not elf Okay, this is this is you know, throwing snowball from the top deck in a football game. The game gets halted and halls are made up to the booth to have an announcement made to warn the fans about not throwing snowballs anymore. All right, So you have this warning go out to the fans and and of course it doesn't matter because people still keep throwing. Yeah, what are they gonna do

to us? Uh? The San Diego charges equipment manager, who is standing next to one of the officials, gets hit in the head by a snowball and is knocked unconscious. Yes, Sid Brooks then sixty years old. He gets hit and is knocked unconscious. The cord guy. And when I say that, because that's the that's the assistant on the sideline. Who who holds the cord for the head coach? Back when before they had wireless records, you know that you had

two hundreds of yards who came. Yeah, you had the guy who would hold the cords for the head coach, like Bruce Coslet when he was head coach of the Jets, his daughter would hold the cord form. My roommate in college was the cord guy for Syracuse Paul. Yeah, he was. He was an equipment manager and uh, you know he got money to go to college, but equipment man because he did that in high school. And he job on game day was the cord guy for Paul Pasqualoney. And

so who was the head coach? You would always sit there and I'll move around, move around, move around. He was the cord guy. So the cord guy for Dan Reeves, responsible for Dan reeves headset took off because he knew Dan Reeves is gonna be a target because the Charges are coming back winning this game. So I'm like, you know what I'm done. I know they're gonna start throwing stuff at Dan Reeves. I'm gonna get hit. So the cord guy just leaves. It's the end of the year

and he probably knew Reeves hated him. Anyway, I'm not coming back to this. There's no way I do in this again. It's the way they're we're doing my contract um out of here. So the chord guy takes off. The game is seventeen seventeen. Sean Gale picks off a pass and goes nine nine yards for a touchdown. You can watch this highlight and you see his Sean Gale is getting ready to cross the goal line. Snowballs come flying down at him. So San Diego Chargers they go

up seventeen. They wind up winning the game. More people are getting hit, a initials are getting hit. One flipped off the crowd after getting hit. How this game wasn't stopped or even forfeited after the Shaan Gail touchdown is beyond me because officials clearly had no control of this game. And at that point it's I go, you know what. I know you don't have forefeits that often, but but you had no control over what was going on the Giants. You gave up the lead, you're losing the game. Now

we're done, we're going off the field. But they kept playing the game even though they had no way to stop the snowballs from flying out of the stands. It was a barrage near Sean Gale. As he runs into the end of with his touchdown and still the the officials said, Okay, hey, sorry, Dave Brown, you just through that big ninety nine yard pick. You gotta go back out there. Good luck staying away from the snowballs. It's just amazing right now. It's safety, safety, safety. Then can

we finish running clock? What don't we do? Uh? And just you know, getting over the loudspeaker, please refrain, be a good citizen and you're no nobody cares. It's done between the alcohol or the kids trying to impress their dad's it's over. You're just open to get out of there in one piece. Man. Just crazy scene the Shawn Gayle former bear uh yard or uh. That is the play that that stands out when you see any video footage of Here's the great weather moments in NFL history.

Fourteen people were arrested, A hundred and seventy five people were ejected, so at least they were ejecting some of the fans. They but it doesn't matter because I mean, this is how many thousands of people at a football game. You inject a hundred seventy Yeah, there's yeah. We got rid of those people throwing snowballs. Their tickets were confiscated. Oh my goodness. Ten security guards got hurt. Three were hospitalized, said Brooks. As you mentioned, was knocked out for about

thirty seconds after getting hit. And look, Shawn Gayle's return was with five and a half minutes to go in the game. Nobody would have complained if you stop the game at that point. Nobody would have. The Giants didn't need it. The Chargers rearly had come back to win this game. You could have stopped at that point. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Let's keep going. They actually get another field goal and win the game. Seventeen Dan Reeves, who was so much

oh yes, snowball snowballs. He had to sit here and watch that the whole thing unfold, like his penance for yelling at Matt Kavanaugh on being so haughty ten years ago. Well, and his man deserted him. I mean that's the other part. Yeah, you know, you're you're supposed to be a leader. Leader said beat it. You know, the kids, the guy that's supposed to be following him said I'm I'm not standing in and taking incoming for this guy. What does that

say about you? Dan Reeves. After the game, Sean Gaylee was asked, Hey, did you feel weird about getting hit with a snowball? And he said, no, we have equipment on, so I didn't worry too much about getting hit. All right. The Charges they lost Dan Humphries early in this game. Gail Gilbert was playing quarterback and it was all this

is gonna be done. We're done on the platt and they come back and win, They win this snowball game, and all this controversy happens, and and it's you know, look to have that kind of Hey, we're gonna stick with this and win in in an in a hostile environment when it's the weather is zero degrees and it's not fun for us because we're in San Diego. I get the charge of a lot of credit for coming

back and winning this football game. Yeah, no question. I mean being able to battle through because when when we know the the reputation of teams in cold weather environments and the data backs that out, you know. So that's how it ended the snowball game with the Giants and the Chargers there's one other huge snowball game we're gonna get to coming up next. Because I was actually in attendance for this one. I didn't throw any snowballs. Where are you really? I was in attendance for this game.

My feet have never been so cold as I was at this game. And it's the biggest college football snowball game. We're gonna get to coming up next on special teams. Welcome back to special teams. Before we get to the college football snowball game up, We're for a couple of minutes here. Uh, you know, we talked a few minutes ago about how fifteen fans got arrested, hundred and seventy five people got ejected. One of the people was a former police chief. Right, so it's a former police chief

is throwing snowballs get injected in from the game. A lot. You throw that snowball? Alright, chief, I got it. Uh. The Giants actually apologized to the Chargers in one of

the San Diego newspapers following the game. Uh that, hey, sorry this happened, We treated you this way and all these things charged right, Yeah, we don't can We won the game where you know, we went to the playoffs now in regards to forfeitting, because this is an interesting thing because we talked about forefeitting in this whole weather run, whether it was the snowplow game or this game right here. NFL and officials do have the power to a rulings

in regards to forfeit and overturning results. It's called the palpably unfair acts in a game. That's the actual name, the palpably unfair I like that, which it wasn't so hard to say, would be a great name for a band. I mean, palpably unfair acts. But who was really gonna

do that? I'm really gonna say, oh, yeah, you know what, Yeah, that this happened, and your forfeit in the act, you could have just you could have ended games in in the in the you could have ended this game with the score being the way it was and the Dolphin the Johnts after forefeit. You were ending the game early. We're just ending the game now because we all gotta

go away. But it does exist from the NFL. If there is a palpably unfair act that is deemed unfair enough, you could end a football game with it, and you could forfeit a game about that. Wonder what they'd actually determine needs to happen to uh put that into effect. I read a New York Times article in addition to going back and watching as much as I could have this one, uh, that there was a photograph of an individual who's throwing a snowball. He was arrested and charged

with disorderly conduct. He was convicted of improper behavior. Boy, every one of us could getting nailed for that at some point. Now I found coodn't we uh? And he was fine six d fifty dollars. Oh okay, Well, you know fifty bucks back in that's like a grand now, so you know it's a lot of cash, straight cash. I mean, that's that's uh, some small fraction of what

the seat licenses in the new stadium. So this game was not the first snowball game that I had seen this year, and I was actually a part of the biggest one in college football. On my birthday in I went to go see Michigan and Penn State in Happy Valley, right. Pam and I had just started dating. My wife and I and one of the first places we went to by ourselves. She's a Michigan grad, huge Michigan football fan.

We were living in Kinneta get working for ESPN, and we said, hey, you have the weekend, I'll let let's go to the Michigan Penn State game. And it was awesome because I was meeting a lot of her family for the first time, because her aunt and uncle, who were more like her brother and sister in law because they were they're close in age. Uh, they came down to the game and met us. It was awesome. We've been so close for the past, you know, twenty five years.

So they come down to the game and so, like I said, it's my birthday, which is in November, and it's so cold and my feet are in water and ice the entire game. It's terrible. There's snowballs and there's snow in the stands everywhere else, and it's it's just a miserable experience. Because to go to a game at Penn State, you have to get there early, Like if you don't want to tailgate, tough, you kind of have to because there's so many people going to the games,

you gotta get there. So we had to leave it like nine o'clock in the morning or ten o'clock in the morning. The games at three thirty or and so we're like, okay, we'll go and we'll go to the game. And so we're there for hours and it's so cold and it's miserable and Michigan's losing the game. But people start throwing snowballs. And there was a play in the in the second half. At one point, so many people

were throwing snowballs. It was a play in the quarter of the ends, and I think it was I want to say it was Mercury Hayes, but I'm not quite sure. It was a play in the corner with the ball was thrown to the end zone and I couldn't see it because it was it wasn't close to where I was in the stands. But the play goes to the corey ends and it's an incomplete pass and snowballs come flying out during this during this play, and my wife

pen goes, Oh, that's gonna be a penalty. I'm like, that's not gonna can't throw a penalty flag snowballs on the field. You're not getting that call. At Penn State, you're not getting it. But the snowballs came flying out. I was like, always like so many from the upper deck, and this was like the last straw. Joe Paterno got on the microphone. They but they gave him a mic and he goes, hey, you guys, stop throwing snowballs. It's

not who we are on the field here. And I was like, oh my god, Joe pau is yelling at the fans, you know, in the field. This is obviously years before all the scandal in Penn State, and we're I'm going, oh my, this is this is crazy. This is Joe. Joe Paterno was yelling at the fans to stop throwing snowballs. They wound up, Penn State went up win in the game. Wally Richardson threw a touchdown and he was the quarterback that year. And but I walked

away going, I can't believe that. And then I saw the coverage of this game, and now it was a lead story on Sports Enter and everywhere else. I'm like, oh my god, I was at a piece of history. I was I was actually in a game that was part of history. And when I got back, one of my friends said to me, the people were trying to

get in touch with you. I'm like, really, go yeah, we didn't have anybody at this game where they were trying to see if there was a way to get in touch with me where I could go in the locker room and get stuck. Like working for ESPN at the time, but I had the time off this before I had cell phones everything else. We're like, yeah, we were trying to fare a way to call you to get you to do something because you know you were We knew you were at the game, and and and

you could have done something. I was like, what did you want me to do? I didn't bring a camera to the game with me. I didn't bring microphone to the game. It's not like you know, I had stuff. I Oh, yeah, I'll just go in and do interviews. I mean, if it was too housand and twenty, yeah, I could go in with my phone and do interview. You could text me and say Yea'll go in and

do some interviews, and trying to do this. Yeah, we try to get to So obviously they wind up getting all the stuff they needed from different um news sources and local stations, and obviously had the broadcast of Joe Paterno yelling at the fans. But my friend told me they wanted me to do some stuff at this at the game for them just absolutely insane. When you go through and you and you look at this footage, I

can only imagine being there. I went to to State College maybe three times, I think, in between my school years and after, and it was always the bitterest cold of any of the Big Ten. And I went to all the Big ten schools on road trips. Man, I don't think I ever experienced anything like this. Now, for for Penn State, this was also they were pretty salty because they were number twelve in the country the week before and came to evan stin and lost to Northwestern.

So you've got a little bit of anger. Not to mention it's Michigan, but you add that up. You had ten of these guys got drafted along the way, and you know, big time players. Maybe Penn State maybe maybe it's it gets muted now and again, but remember when they first came into the conference, they were like rock stars, right because number number one ranked team all the time or top five, and it's like, I, what, what is

this mystique with Joe Paterno? And when you did your Joe paternal impression, I mean it was Wallace Shawn right out of the Princess Bride. I was waiting for you to tell me about guilder people or something. But tons

of snow. Uh. There's actually the video I watched of it had that Mercury Hayes video where he's absolutely uh Will Ferrold and he got a snowball inside the uh inside the dome there because he slid into the wall where there's a banking and banking of snow, and that's where you have Joe Paterno come running up to side. What the hell are we do? We're like, oh my god. And you know, the game ended. It was so much momentum, was it was exciting, was all this so I'm exhausted, right.

So after the game was that we went to a pizza place, right and I'm so cold all day all day. We go into this pizza place and we have to we have to find a place because you know, everything on campus is just mobs. It's after a football We find a place we're able to get in and sit down and it's so warm. I sit down and I'm sitting next to Pam and I'm sitting up and I fall asleep, not laying down I'm sitting up at a table waiting for pizza, and I fall asleep. I don't

I don't put my head down on my hands. I don't do any of that. No, no, no, I I just sitting straight up. I wind up falling asleep, and I sleep that way until the pizza comes and I wake up and I go, oh, I'm up, and and Pam looks at me and goes, you were just asleep sitting up for twenty minute, I said, I was. You didn't even move. We were like, are you okay? And I can just tell you were sleeping. That's how tired. I didn't didn't move to the side, didn't fall that

I nope. I just sat up and and that's what I did. I sat up and slept for I was so tired, so exhausted. That's that's what happened. I really wish I could say I have no idea what you're talking about. But my older daughter, as you know, my my beloved Eleanor just turned fifteen. Every now and again I go through, you know, as you do, you go through some old pictures of that. I look at you when you're little. Uh, there's a lot of pictures of her in my arms like a football with me sleeping

sitting up. So I am no stranger to that position, my friend, and I applaud you for allowing your body to just say, you know what, it's time. So there it is the end of our weather opus that takes us from freezing cold to snow and mud and snowballs. Hopefully you've enjoyed it. I'm Jason Smith, He's Mike Carmen. Our show was heard on Fox Sports Radio Monday through Fridays, tend to two am on the East coast, seven to

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