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How to Build Strength - Chris Heskett Part 2

Mar 30, 202335 minSeason 1Ep. 14
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In this episode, we continue our conversation with Chris Heskett, host of Wild Nutrition Podcast and full-time health and fitness coach, to discuss the importance of a healthy and active lifestyle, especially for people entering the trades.

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Lia: Welcome to the Sparky Life podcast. I'm your host, Lia Lamela. For part two, Chris explains the power of investing in a coach, common myths about health and fitness, as well as the stats on goal setting, which are simply shocking. Yeah, we're back. Many of us who never hunted before or new to hiking, new to weights, from my personal experience, it's very, very important to have a coach. I'm a big proponent of this. I know that when I tried to do it on my own. And I know there's so much knowledge out there with YouTube and stuff that you just don't know what's going to potentially help you. And you're doing a lot of trial and error and potentially could hurt yourself. There's not much progress. It's very discouraging, as opposed to somebody who has a decade of experience in the field.


Chris: Yep. 


Lia: Think of the time and most important thing in the world, in my opinion, is time. You just don't get it back. 


Chris: Correct. 


Lia: You're wasting how much time floundering around trying to figure out how to reach fitness goals, as opposed to investing in yourself and getting yourself a coach. 


Chris: Yep. Yep. So yeah, there's, you can invest in two ways. There's only two ways to invest. You either invest resources, which in modern world is money into hiring a coach who's an expert, and there's bad coaches and good coaches. I like to think I'm on the good coach side. 


Lia: You are. I know Chris, okay.


Chris: Or you invest time. Now, the thing with money is every paycheck, you get money back into your account, like you said, you never get time. So you can invest time, but you never get back. Do you have that time to invest to learn all the ins and outs of things? That's where it can be like, okay, there's so much information, so much shitty information out there. Well, it'd be better just to hire someone. And it's kind of like, real life. Time travel of, okay, here's the information you actually need to know, just implement it. Right? Ignore everything else, put blinders on to everything else. We can talk about that future time. And we're just going to focus on these things. This is what will work. Yes, I know that you brought up this Instagram model who is super ripped and she looks fantastic. I can tell you right now that it's all for Instagram. That's not her actual workout. So it's like, just do this. You get results. Instead of spending three years chasing something you spend maybe a year or maybe six months. It's how you want to invest. Do you want to spend money and invest in a coach, avoid the injuries? Because I've been injured many times. You may my mistakes, yes. Avoid all the fads and all the other bullshit, which I've done. I have the background, I also have the application like this shit just doesn't work. Right? Cool. I've done that fad before or fad like it, it doesn't work. 


Lia: Yeah. It's not just the time. It goes more than that. So when you're starting a new routine, or a new habit, and anything worthwhile in life, my opinion is going to be challenging, right? If it's not challenging, it’s not fun, and to have a coach in your corner, to have somebody there to keep you accountable, to be your cheerleader, to help motivate you. And here's the big thing for me. I don't know how much more I have in me. My coach, he does. She does, she sees it. He sees it. You know what I'm saying? Like 100%. And then when you push me, and I go above what I thought I was capable of: Wow. Wow. That is all the power, all the competence, all the energy to keep going? 


Chris: Yes. 100% There's the knowledge a coach brings, but there's also what you said the accountability aspect. There's a study done by the American Society of Development, I think, I forget the whole acronym thing. But they found like when goal setting like success rate of reaching your goal, like if you just have a goal in mind, lose weight, get healthy, whatever your goal might be, you only have like a 10% chance of reaching it, which means 90% of people will fail if you do that. Now if you make a plan it bumps up it's like 25% And then if you like set a time dates of if you’ve ever heard of like smart goals where it's the acronym. If you go through that process of…


Lia: I've never heard of SMART goal. 


Chris: So SMART goal, when you make a goal, S is for specific. So I want to get healthy. That's not specific. I want to drop my cholesterol by 100 points, that specific we can measure that. Next one's measurable. So I want to lose 10 pounds. So I want to lose weight. Nope, it's specific, but it's not measurable. I want to lose 10 pounds, now it's measurable. A is applicable, I was messed up A, I know R is relatable. And T is time. So like 90 Day goal, six month goal, etc. I always forget, applicable or achievable, slash attainable, so I always forget that one. So yeah, setting a goal of it's measurable, 30 pounds in 30 days, it's measurable, it's specific and is not achievable.


Lia: Darn!


Chris: Majority, unless you are very obese, the chances of you doing that are slim to none. And you're probably going to put that weight back on, you want to go through that process. So you make a SMART goal. And then if you go through that process, you have a 50/50 chance of actually reaching your goal. If you get someone to hold you accountable, like a friend or family member, someone who's going to hold your feet to the fire 60% chance of you actually reaching that goal. Cool. Now 60% chance, but it's almost like a flip of a coin. What they found is when you like, invest, you pay for coaching, yeah, you pay for a certification, you put out money, it causes some pain. And that's the key point. It's not me like, sign up for coaching, I'm a coach, buy my shit, right? I've done this myself. I've invested a shitload of money in coaches. When you do that, you actually get your shit done, because you're like, I'm gonna squeeze everything out of this mentorship or coaching program that I can because I've invested all these resources of mine, and it's very primal thing in our brain. Other times that we've been trading resources for something now it's money for this knowledge. So 95% chance of reaching your goal? If you have…


Lia: Whoa, talk about jump.


Chris: Yes, good jump. 95%. Yeah, because it's a very primal reaction. You’re like, Shit, I just gave all these resources out for this thing. Yeah, I'm gonna use it. So in my Facebook community, all the stuff I teach in my coaching program is there for free. I can tell you, there are probably five people using it. We’re close, we're at like, 955 women in that community. Five are probably using it. Everything you need to be successful is in there. Everything. You have workouts done, meal plans done, recipes, supplements, mindset, trainings, everything is someone would need for free is there. Who's using it? 


Lia: What's the name of the Facebook community? 


Chris: Wild nutrition secrets for women.


Lia: Yeah, yeah.


Chris: You can go and get all of that for free. But, and this is where people are like, aren't you worried about giving your best? No, I'm gonna give my best shit away for free, because people need that accountability. And that's where you actually get results. And then once you can maintain, it's much easier to maintain your results than it is to actually like, put forth the effort to getting to them. 


Lia: And the truth is, it's it's not that you're just giving things away from for free, you're educating, the most important thing, the number one secret sauce, so to speak, is you, is having you. So it's it's investing in the coach. You're doing a service by giving all this free information. And you know, so sweet. So genuine, you really just want to help people, it's clear. But people have to want to help themselves. And that's where getting a coach really shows, you're here to help yourself, you're here to move forward. That's what's really going to make the huge changes. 


Chris: Yes, when people talk to me who aren't in the coaching space, they're like you give your stuff away for free. It's like, all I'm doing is giving access, like you can find everything out on YouTube, or on Google for free of like, how to write workouts, nutrition information, you can find all that stuff for free. So you're just paying for access to a coach. So it's like, here's free stuff in our group, I do live trainings, you can come there. But if you want to be a client, now you're going to get one on one accountability, where I'm going to actually get to know you, get to know your schedule. Here's the things that relate best to you. That's not going to, no, client A is going to be different than Lia. 


Lia: Right. Right. 


Chris: It's very different. Whereas like, in my group is very general information unless you come to me with a specific question. Like when we talk about, say, a workout program, it's gonna be very general. But if you come to me, we did a training on working out with like bad knees. Well, if you come to me and you're like, I have X, Y and Z with my knees, okay, that's gonna be very specific. So that's where you get a coach. Why do I need a coach? Well, it's going to be very specific to you. But like you said, you need to want it yourself. So don't think hiring coach and it's going to be magically like, I'm gonna do all these things. Magically the weights going to come off magically, I'm gonna get healthy and super jacked like, no, like, you still have to do the work, the coach just tells you like, this is the most efficient way, this the best way for you to do it? Now you actually have to implement the work. So I have a business coach, and we call this like, he calls it the boring work. It's the boring shit that pays the dividends, do the boring stuff. And if you're not doing the boring stuff, that's why your business isn't growing. So with our clients, we call this the core 4: its protein, sleep, water and movement. If you're not doing that, it doesn't matter what fancy macro program, what supplements you're taking. If you can't get eight hours of sleep, or seven to seven hours sleep, you're not going to have amazing results. Anytime someone falls off: are you doing these four things? Yeah, it's really fucking boring to talk about I could, I would love never to talk about it again. But it's super, super important. And it's the foundation of like our entire program, those four things like, do those things, you will get results. And then when they stop working, we just get more specific with those things. 


Lia: Yeah, it's crazy how sometimes it's the simple things. 


Chris: It really is. It's Yes, keto. It's not Optavia. It's not intermittent fasting. It's just eat really good food. And that's a great starting point to be at, you don't go too extreme. I just, I did a post in the group. And I did a in our client group, I do a training every week with them as well. And I talked about like, I saw a Facebook post of someone's “All right, I am done with all the sugary food with Christmas. We're throwing everything out, no sugar, no dyes, no processed flowers. And if we if I send my kids over to your house, and you have those things, we're never sending them over to your house ever again”. It's like, are you going to live your life like that for the that's super, extremely rare. Last 30 days, your family is going to be super miserable. And then you're going to fall back or 80/20 principle, maybe you should just cut back instead of that being half your diet. Maybe it should just be 20% of your diet. 


Lia: Right. Right. Again, making it sustainable. Not to mention, I don't think I would want to hang around with somebody so rigid like that. 


Chris: Yeah, they're not fun. No. I did compete in bodybuilding in the past. And those people are like that. And I like no, there. You're not my people. 


Lia: Yeah, yes, I have girlfriends who have been in that world. And wow, it is more than a full time job. It's a lifestyle and militant.


Chris: Militant lifestyle. And that's something good to bring up, is when people are thinking like, I want results. And I want to look like this person and they are a fitness model, a bodybuilder physique athlete of some sorts, you don't understand that, that's their entire life, right? That's either their obsessive hobby, which that was me for a long time. Or they're actually getting paid to do that. You think like, you're going to start from where you're at. And get there with your one hour workout a day and you just want to enjoy life. Like no, their entire life revolves around that. It's the gym. It's the food. Everything revolves around that, you want to go and have girls weekend stuff? Cool. That's not going to happen if you want to look like that. Which is okay, like those people who want to do that. That's awesome. Do that thing. But if you want these other things, don't set your expectations of I'm going to be super shredded and jacked and look like I should be on the cover of women's health like, no, I was that person too. And then it's really not fun to live your life that way. 


Lia: Right, it's for a very select few. And I think that's a really great point because I like most thought, oh yeah, I want to look like that. I want, I want I want a six pack and I want to see every muscle I want Madonna arms. And I had no idea what that took. Like what that's like.


Chris: Celebrities are another good example. And Nerd Fitness put this out, fantastic account by the way, guys. He's like, Okay, if you want to look like Chris Hemsworth, super easy. Just hire a personal chef, personal trainer to live with you and have you workout four hours a day, make millions of dollars, so you don't have to worry about any finances and play as Chris Hemsworth as Thor because that's your job to look like that.


Lia: Love it. That's so dead on.


Chris: Oh, you want to look like that, except you might have like 30 minutes in your day to work out. You barely have time to meal prep. This guy has professional chefs, trainers going in living with him to give him the best workouts like set your expectations like some people will look like that. That's just genetics. Most people aren't. 


Lia: Right, exactly, exactly. And that leads me into something that I wanted to bring up. What are some common myths in the health and wellness field? Some things that you can debunk for us because I know that my 37 years on this earth and I'm still figuring out some things that I thought were true that are not true. 


Chris: You got four hours because we can go a while. “Carbs make you fat.” That's, you know, with keto and everything. Carbs are just an energy source. “Insulin isn't bad.” That's the other common one I'm seeing.


Lia: Oh, I did not know that. 


Chris: All insulin does is bring your blood sugar levels back to normal range. You eat something sugary, it spikes up and you're like, oh, high amounts of insulin, that's really bad. Well, if it stays high, yes, that is really bad. But it comes back to normal. But if you eat something sugary, then dips too low, you get hangry. And then you do it again. Well, if you eat more like the complex carbs, insulin does go up. But it's not necessarily bad. Your body's normal response to getting glucose, blood sugar out of the blood and into where it needs to go. And that can be either body fat, if you're eating too much, or it gets used by the brain, and it gets used, stored in your muscles as what's called glycogen. That's the starch that animals use. So that's how insulin works. Insulin is also really good if you're in a dieting phase of preserving muscle tissue. So bodybuilders we'll use insulin, because it's very anabolic. And you probably heard that term from anabolic steroids. Insulin is very anabolic, and it helps save muscle tissue during a dieting phase. 


Lia: Wow. 


Chris: So you can use it strategically, like around your workouts, you kind of eat some carbs spiked up that insulin, and potentially help save muscle mass because we don't want to lose muscle when we're dieting, we won't lose body fat, right? 


Lia: Right. 


Chris: So insulin in itself isn't bad. If you have a really shitty insulin response. That's a bad sign. That means something metabolically is going on. So carbs aren't bad on their own. But if you have insulin resistance, which is like you're eating too much, maybe PCOS, you might need a lower carb diet, but it's never no carb. One, it's not sustainable for most people, but carbs also help, with there's something called leptin. So Leptin is a hormone your fat cells release, okay? That tell your fat cells to release body fat into bloodstream. So your fat cells tell themselves to release. If you go low carb leptin levels tend to naturally decrease. If you eat carbs, they tend to stay elevated. This is a hormone that tells your body fat to burn itself. 


Lia: Wow. Wow. 


Chris: So I always like to show there's a picture of like your metabolism and this giant, you have to zoom in this giant screen. And we always like to be like, one plus one equals two with the human body. It's never like that. Yeah, there's these cascade of events that go down. It's really, really complicated. But we can make it simple by saying like, people have been eating carbs for a long time. Like if you look at hunter gatherers, they would seek out honey and fruit and starchy root vegetables. They're gonna seek those things out. Same thing with fats, like people demonize fats. You've been eating fats for a really long time. Protein has been demonized for a long time. There's no scientific study, unless you have really bad kidney disease, that high protein diet is bad for you. So in a nutshell, carbs are bad for you don't avoid carbs. There's a myth and don't spend a god awful amount of money on those good constant, like glucose monitors.


Lia: I was just gonna ask you about that!


Chris: So what they don't tell you is each of those is temporary. They're only gonna last like one or two weeks, like, oh, it's like 30 bucks, every one to two weeks. You're like, oh, wait, that doesn't sell you think it's like a one time thing? Yeah, there's something, no, you have to replace those things. 


Lia: And then like, How accurate are they? Because I heard there's a lot of debate about accuracy. 


Chris: I don't know enough to give you an answer on that. So I'm just you don't need it. So I haven't looked much further. If your doctor wants you to be on that, in which case, that's outside my scope of practice, like I'm, if we're dealing with actual medical conditions, that's a doctor now. They might want you to use that different situation. Don't listen to me in that situation. If you have a medical issue. If you're a generally healthy person who might need to lose some weight, you probably don't need it. Same thing with, so another myth. Here's a great myth. Most calorie trackers overestimate how many calories you burn, and they're not accurate. 


Lia: Oh, my goodness, I did not know that either.


Chris: So by up to 60%. That was a study. 60%. So if you think you burn 500 calories, it could potentially be elevated by 60%. 


Lia: Yeah, that's wild. 


Chris: That's a lot. 


Lia: That's frustrating because oh my gosh, you think you're doing everything right and what? Oh…


Chris: So calorie trackers are really inaccurate. And so the next question I get is, what's the best way to track calories? The calories you burn during exercise don't really fucking matter. 


Lia: Yes, that I knew.


Chris: The only accurate way to really assess how many calories you burn, is to go to a lab, lock yourself in this little like glass room, and they monitor what you exhale and your body temperature for 24 hours, so people are like, but that's how it's like, yeah, so you think you're a little like tiny little Fitbit that goes around your wrist or your aura rings gonna be that accurate. Now, it's, they're fine. They're great for heart rate they're good for like, tracking your steps and some other data, but people get so into like, these data points of like, I need to burn 500 calories, every single workout is like, if that workout was shit, you didn't improve any skill or anything during that workout was it really a good workout, like you're sweating, but you didn't get stronger, you didn't build your endurance, you just kind of like, checked off. That's cool. But if your goal is weight loss or improve strength, you're not actually moving closer to your goal, right? You're just worried about this arbitrary thing of calories. Doesn't matter in the long run. 


Lia: So interesting. It's really crazy. Then again, this comes back to there's so much information out there. If you have no background, you know, you have no understanding of what's legitimate and what's not. 


Chris: It's overwhelming and there's so many new things coming out. I'm like, great, what am I gonna have to keep up track with? There are so many things coming out and blasting you all the time. We're in information overload all the notifications on your phone and what you see and ads and TV and that it's very hard if you don't have a background, to really understand what is right and what's wrong. And then ads, then pinpoint you emotionally and they target you at that right time. And you're like, that's the magic bullet. I'm gonna sign up and go and buy that fat burner for $85.95. And then it doesn't work. Yeah, like fat burners are garbage. There's a myth, fat burn fat burners are a waste of money. 


Lia: Unfortunately, I knew that.


Chris: Learn is basically just caffeine and a few other things. 


Lia: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 


Chris: 90 to 95% of your results will come from your diet, exercise and sleep. Yes. So focus on that stuff. And then when we really want to get into things, and then we can dive into supplements, like I'm super boring when it comes to supplements with my clients. Really, really boring. If I get someone who is like more like a bodybuilder who I don't work with anymore, and we're trying to get that last little bit of body fat off. Or maybe it's this kind of kind of get super shredded for like a photo shoot or something, then we might implement the fat burner, but this person is like, last little bit and we're talking like single digit body fat. If you're spending like $50 on a fat burner, and you don't have portion control in check, you're wasting money. 


Lia: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Going into supplements. So isn't it true that some supplements depending on who the brand is or where it's coming from? Some are bogus, some are bogus? Does the FDA regulate it? Can you give us any clarity on that? 


Chris: Yeah. So FDA does not regulate it, for better or for worse. So this is the argument. And I play devil's advocate anytime this is brought up to me, but some people wouldn't see that FDA regulation. However, if they do that, then the prices of your supplements will probably go up five to 10 times. So there's the pros and cons we have affordable supplements. But there's a lot of shady ones out there. Or we can get regulation, but it's gonna cost you $200 a month just for vitamin C pills. 


Lia: And what are they really regulating? Because they can put organic on tons of shit and it's not organic. So, and that's FDA approved, you know? 


Chris: Yep, exactly. So, yeah, there's that but most supplements are a waste of money. Now you can go a free resources examined.com. You can go onto there and find most supplements and it pops up with the most up to date research and see what effect it has on the human body. So some of them are not totally bogus. And you go on there and you're like, it does have this effect. But you see, like in humans, it's like very minor. It's like, it does boost testosterone and the effect is minor. Okay, it's gonna cost me $35 a month for this minor effect. Is it really worth my money? Should you just buy more like, better quality food?



Lia: Hey now, don't start with that common sense.


Chris: So what I recommend for clients are like a multivitamin. Most people have been very deficient a long time. And I call it an insurance policy. So I will use a really high quality multivitamin. It's a insurance policy for those days you miss out on nutrients just like you have car insurance for God forbid if you're ever in a car accident, or homeowners insurance renter's insurance, you have this to make sure that you get the nutrients you need, we use a very low dose of it. Once we like, deep dive into some other things going on in their life, I might recommend other things. If they're having issues with their detox pathways, or they're having issues with some genetic markers or different things I look at with clients, then we'll deep dive into some other supplements. But more often than not, it's, “Have you been eating your green leafy veggies and sleeping?”.. “No”; get back to that. We're not paying for expensive supplements. 


Lia: All right. I like it. I like it. It goes to the basics. 


Chris: Always. If you're struggling, you just have to go back to the basics. Are you doing the basics really? Well? If the answer's no, go back to basics. Do those really fucking well. Yeah. And then if you're doing those well, and you're still in the plateau, then it's time to dial things in like, Okay, now it's time to go a little bit more advanced, cool, you've stepped up the level, congratulations, you just made your life harder for you've gone from a beginner to an intermediate, intermediate to advanced, congratulations. The training just got harder. Nutrition just got harder. But if you want to take things to that next level, that's what happens. But if you're a beginner, don't overwhelm yourself with thinking of like, oh my God, when I get two yours, when I'm like a really advanced lifter, I'm gonna have to do all these things. Maybe just get there first, right? You're gonna build so many habits along the way that it's actually just tweak this one habit I have. So instead of like, overwhelming, like, Holy fuck, what do I have to do to get that results? Okay, the first step to me getting to that goal is, say it's lose 100 pounds, first, we start by losing five, then we lose 10, then we lose 15. And you chunk it that way, like the first, like 50 pounds are probably gonna be pretty easy. And then that last 50, we got that deep dive get a little bit more specific. But maybe we should lose the first 50 first.


Lia: Yes, yes. Yes. Excellent. Excellent point. Excellent. Chris, with all of your success with all of your experience with everything that you've learned along the way, I'm corny, so you're gonna have to put up with this. 


Chris: That’s fine. So is my wife.


Lia: You're used to it? 


Chris: Yes. I'm very used to that. 


Lia: What's in your tool belt? What do you carry with you always, I'm big on this. Because for me when I got into the trades, learning to have the right tool for the job. Just, I know, that sounds so simple. But if you apply this to your life, it's incredible. The places you can go. 


Chris: What do you mean by in my tool belt, like for me personally, like to keep me on track day to day? 


Lia: Yes. Something that you learned through your life experience that you carry with you always that's in the back of your mind you, you always revert back to.


Chris: My giant fucking planner. Everyone's too fucking busy, right? We're too busy for this. We're too busy for this. But somehow, I'm sure Lia, you said I was too busy. And yet you found time to start a podcast? Yeah, that research was done that most people in America have roughly four hours of free time per day. So for me, it's about organizing your actual time to get shit done and reach your goals. So my planner, and it's called powerlisting, this is something I got from one of my business mentors.


Lia: Please tell us.


Chris: Write down the five most important things you have to do today for it to be a good day, you are limited to five that's it. If you check those things off, it was a good day, you can have other tasks, but you can only have five things on that list. 


Lia: Okay, five things in the day, that are…


Chris: Personal, professional, etc. So I'll write down for like my days, Tuesdays are client checking days. So on Tuesdays, we have a client call. So that goes on the list, my inner circle client call, have to do that. This also gives you the power of “No”, which people are talking about the power “Yes”, power, it knows really. Then on Tuesdays, I want to work out and stuff I for me, I don't have to put down the list because I'm going to do that anyways. But I might have, I have what's called my boring work. So it's posting on social media, messaging people following up with leads, blah, blah, blah, like really boring shit I have to do. That's number three. I only have two slots for other things. So if those things fill up, I can't take on any other important projects or tasks for that day. I can have tiny tasks like send so and so an email that doesn't take precedent that, unless that's like a giant, really fucking important email. So it gives you that power like, hey, these days, I'm really booked up. I can't take on any more. So you either delegate to someone else to do or you say your boss is like, hey, I need you to do this. Well, if you have this available, like so often you're like, I'm just busy and they're like, Yeah, fuck you or do this thing and you're like, No, no, like, I'm working on these five things that you need me to work on, like I have all these, this is going to take up my entire day, I can either do that thing tomorrow when I have more free time. Or I can put this task off for tomorrow, or give it to someone else to do that thing you need to today. So it gives you that power of being like, this is why I can't get something done. Also helps organize your shit. And figure out where your free time’s going. Like, if you can't get five tasks done, like what the fuck is going on with your day. Like that's just, you know, technically it should be about five hours for work. 


Lia: That is so cool. I love that. I've never heard that before. Amazing. Amazing. 


Chris: The other nice thing is everybody likes checking shit off. Oh, like that. podcast was on today. So now we can go and like, cross that off for today. 


Lia: Whoo, that's done, we made the list!


Chris: It creates a sense of accomplishment as well, like, so often we feel like we're drowning. Like there's always more we can do. 


Lia: Yes. 


Chris: We know in men, if they accomplished something, they get a spike in testosterone, like the body rewards them. If you've ever had something where you are disappointed or failure, you just know that feeling. While your like testosterone actually drops not great. “Alphas” (I'm using quotes there), generally it's gonna be high testosterone, like you're having accomplishment after accomplishment after accomplishment, high testosterone, high drive. And that can happen in men and women. It's just the body rewarding you accomplishing things. So if you can do that in your life with just the small accomplishments, you're gonna feel way better. 


Lia: That's really fantastic. That's fantastic. I've never heard that before. I love it. I love it. Totally implementing it.


Chris: Super easy implement. Everyone has a smartphone, just open the note section, you can do it there. You can use sticky notes. I use the panda planner. I like it. I also work from home. So it works better for me from home. When I was in person, personal trainer. You know, on my feet, I didn't have a desk, I use my phone. So I used like the Notes app, or you can use something like Evernote or something if you want for free. But you can get started today. And it's best, the best way to do it. You don't have to do it this way is do it the night before. If you're listening to the podcast, do it right now. It doesn't have to be perfect. Just get it done. And it can be two things. And if you think five things are too few, I listened to a podcast with what was the previous CEO, one of the cofounders of Under Armour.


Lia: Oh, wow, yeah.


Chris: Small, small company, you might have heard of them. So he found for him personally, he could only do 11 things in a day very well. He limited himself to doing 11 tests every day. And one of those tests might be, I have to talk to my wife about X, that went into one of his 11 things. And he said everyone has like this different range. But the powerlisting is like your most important and then you can add on other tasks, but it's like how many tasks can you take on a day? Once you start filling out things, it's going to be probably about 10 for most people, some people might be a little bit more, some people might be less, but it's like he built a multi billion dollar company and he can only do 11 things. Why are you any better? You're you're probably not like, 


Lia: Right, we're all capable.


Chris: Stick to like 10 things and do them really fucking well and then accomplish the next 10 things. And just do that instead of like, I'm gonna do 20 things and you get like four done because you like freeze up and then you like binge on Netflix and you're like, wait, it's been four hours.


Lia: Netflix binge!


Chris: You're like, oh, shit, I was not productive today. Okay, let's limit how much you're gonna do realistically in a day and do those really well. And then there's always tomorrow. 


Lia: Yes, Chris, I really appreciate you being here with us. This was great. This, really, mind blown, tickled pink loving it. love every second of it. Thank you. 


Chris: No problem. Thank you for having me on. 


Lia: Chris left us with so many great nuggets of knowledge. I have never heard of powerlisting. But that is something I am definitely going to implement. Powerlisting for a powerful day. What will you implement?


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