Welcome to the space versus this podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Dominique Pritchett. Today I am joined by to Hoya Jackson. Hello. Hey, Dominic, how are you? I am. Well, how are you feeling? I'm feeling amazing. Happy to be here today. Love it. Love it. Let me introduce our guests. To Jolla Jackson, M B a is a former people, pleaser, overachiever, golden child, and trauma survivor turned mindset, coach and certified trauma professional.
Her super power is helping mentally exhausted women overcome past hurt so they can finally feel safe enough to surrender to the calling on their life. Through her signature coaching programs and social media platforms. She is devoted to helping women shift their minds. Reframe their thoughts and show up for themselves. Unapologetically. In addition, she is a transformational speaker. Founder of the global mental health awareness movement. Hey girl heal.
And the mother of two amazing and gentle parenting children. Welcome again. Thank you for having me. You're so welcome. Before we dive in. I'm curious. When you hear the three words, space, four sisters. What does this mean to you? I suppose for sisters, for me definitely means a space of freedom, um, where black and brown women feel safe and secure to be themselves to just let it all hang out. Right.
Because we walked throughout this world with having it all together and we, we feel the need to have it all together. And I feel the space for assistant is a place where we can just come and just be ourselves unapologetically, where we're also learning about ourselves and rediscovering ourselves. And you redefining what success and happiness in life looks like for us outside of, the people pleasing in, the past trauma, different things like that.
So that's what I feel that space for sisters means. I love that. I love the part of learning about ourselves. Because when we are in a collective space or a space with a few, I see when I see another sister, I see a mirror or a reflection of not just the struggle, but the strive to just keep showing up. And so we get to learn about ourselves through each other. So I love that you mentioned that. But, yes.
So when you are not out here transforming hearts, transforming lives with the global mental health movement. Hey girl. Hey. And it's just so fun to say, by the way. What do you do for fun? For fun and leisure. I might not look like you, but I'm a sports girl. I love watching sports. I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan. Do not Boomi. Y'all. But Dallas Cowboys fan. I also love, I play volleyball majority of my life before I went to college. volleyball is something that I love.
My daughter recently said she wanted to play she's nine. So I'm super excited about that. Definitely volleyball spending time with my family, my boyfriend, and I talk about true love versus trauma. I live a lot on my Facebook platform. I'm a family oriented person too. I love doing new things with my family and also traveling. Okay. Wherever I can go on a beach or an island, or just wherever Airbnb to get a break, I let it to y'all.
And look, we, and we follow each other on the socials and y'all know how it is. Y'all see, all size. One of the things I love about you is that you just don't. Paint the rosy side of what it's like to continue healing through your experiences. You really educate people, you break it down and you make the things so relatable. Yes. And the crazy thing that you say relatable. That's one of the, the values and promises that I stand on is to always be real, raw and relatable.
And even in my like questionnaire, when people, my clients come to work with me or fill out the interest form, one of the things is like, what inspired you to connect me to a lawyer? And all of them are like, she was relatable. I could see myself in her. I definitely value that, wholeheartedly. I love it. So traveling, definitely my love language. I like to be gone maybe every other month. Where have you traveled to recently? And what did you take away from that experience?
I recently traveled to Atlanta, Georgia for the, uh, impact weekend I went there and I was in a room of 150. Black women in business, just to be like Dominic said earlier about the collective, like the feeling of being around people who not only understand you, but are walking the same walk that you're walking. They are headed towards success. Right. Being there was definitely. I opened it for me. And I'm transforming during that time, just to share a quick story.
I was able to open up my eyes to the poverty and lack mindset that I still had lingering within me. I ordered room service. Right. I had never ordered room service in my life. I'm just the type of person I'm like, I just don't get it myself. Because I just want to do something, but ordering room side of it booking the flight and the trip there. When I said the hotel that we stayed in was luxurious and I heard this in my head.
It was like, what would your mom think if she knew that you spent your mortgage? Just stay here for three days. And that was like, okay. Honestly don't care. Like that was my new toy. Your response, like, I don't care. However, the negative thoughts played into my mind in reference to the hotel costs and in reference to me ordering room service, right. I only got a burglary. I think it was like $35.
But it was like girl, you know, the lack mindset and the negative thoughts that play when you grow up in poverty or when you grow up in lag, try to come back. And I realized that there was some more work that I need to do from a money mindset perspective to reach the financial and wealth goals that I desired, not only for my business, but for my family as well. Absolutely. And it wasn't about the burger or I'm dialing room service.
It's, you know what I want to experience being catered to, I want to experience, All of it from room service, probably to valet, to just booking the flight. What motivated you? To go through that experience. I would definitely say. The elevation process. I'm just on this whole journey of, I want to experience more in every aspect of life. No matter what it looks like, no matter what it costs, no matter what I have to sacrifice to get it or what I have to go through to get to it.
I want to be able to experience this, not only for myself, but to be able to go back and share this story with women who think that these things are impossible, right. For women who feel so bogged down by their brokenness or the things that they've been through in life, that they feel that there's no joy or peace or happiness on the other side of life. Being able to be, the first generational curse breaker in my family.
That's one of the things that I wholeheartedly stand on and what excites me a lot to do different things and to embrace different experiences. There's a really good book by Dan Sullivan is called who not the, how the formula to achieve bigger goals through. Accelerating teamwork.
The book is really good as you're building and growing your business, but also it's a snapshot to how to look at your poverty mindset, your, trauma relationship with money, all of those things that stopping us from living our legacy. Many of us spend time building our legacy, leaving a legacy, but are we living our legacy? Yes, it's related to teamwork and business, but I apply it to personal as well. Who do I need in my life to give me time back?
I could have ran down to the restaurant, spent a 90 minutes ordering my food, but room service allowed me to get just a little bit more time back for me. Yep. Exactly. So who not the how. That's what I am hearing and it really can help us shift out of that poverty mindset. And here's the thing we know with poverty, coms trauma. And part of that trauma is I'll trust. Nobody. I can do a by myself. It's the whole superwoman thing.
Take off the Cape, since we are giving you permission, this is your invitation to take off that Cape because it's heavy. It's going to be. And it's cute. It might be cute, but it's costing you. Yes. Tell us. About. Who are you growing up? Me growing up. Now I can say this from this space. I was a nerd. Like I was going to nurse my entire life. I used to like, people used to pick on me for it, but now I fully embrace it. Like I love learning. I grew up in a single parent home.
My mom got pregnant with me and shortly after that, my dad went to prison. So the first four years of my life was basically wrote weekend road trips to see my dad, to develop some type of relationship with him. My mom was a single parent. We were more like best friends as opposed to mom and daughter. When I. Emerged into this entrepreneurship space. I realized that that was one of the main reasons why I lacked discipline. However, it's on me now to create discipline within me.
As I'm on this new journey. My mom, she's amazing. I would, she was fully, we were fully emerged in the church. I was in every youth. Any committee ushering choir that you can imagine. I feel like my mom was the, pray about it type person when we had things going on, that's what she knew. That's what she had. Exactly. I was a overachiever, so I was the person who would cry in my room and lock myself in the room. When I got an 89.
Cause I was like, I need an, a. And so my dad wasn't there for me and my dad lived in the same city. However, he was not, fully active in my life. I barely stopped him when he got out of prison. When he got out of prison, he got, he came back home. We tried to be a family. But he chose the street life over his family because that was what he knew. So he went back to that and my mom said that wasn't acceptable. So, he just decided to go off and do whatever, whatever he was doing.
Can we pause right there? How powerful was that for you to witness mom saying not in my house. It was very powerful in a show. Me her true strength. As a woman and what she desired. A lot of times, even in this generation, I see it a lot with women settle for less than they deserve, just to say their love or just to save their inner relationships. So being able to my mom to be that first person who showed me. What it looks like to choose you or what their strength is like.
Um, even though it meant that she was going to have to continue to sack make sacrifices as a single mom, she still chose herself as opposed to the American dream of, oh, well I have a husband or I have a man in this household. She did what was best for her. And I truly value that. Yep. And that is, The perfect reminder. We all were dealt cards. Um, some people's cars are shinier. Some people's cars are, more dull. Ripped up torn apart, missing pieces. I ain't got the full deck. It is a reminder.
When we think back on all of our trials and tribulations, there are positive moments. There are influential moments. So we have got to remember, there were moments that were so defining in our life. We may not have known it then, but let those parts in it. They mean something now. Definitely. And embrace all of your story. That's what I definitely encourage everybody to do.
I know the, the bad times and the hard times, and when you were taken advantage of, and I was those different things, they hurt. However, being able to fully embrace how that those experiences shifted, who you are or effected the way that you showed up today or show up today. Definitely is in full scope of who you are as a human being. Right. Because if I never experienced daddy issues, I may not have been, I'm an overachiever. I may not have been successful. Right.
I may have just settled for the bare minimum in life. However, Unfortunately, I was the little girl who grew up achieving my way out of trauma to make sure that my dad came around because I felt like every time my dad came around, I was achieving something. So I, and my kid brain put daddy shows up when I do good things. And so that's what I desired in life at that time, which led me to striving for success in every area of my life.
So, yeah, just kind of looking at what you gained from those particular experiences, as opposed to kind of running away from those are kind of, you know, Brushing those out for ignoring them. SIS. You just said achieving your way out of trauma. Y'all if y'all didn't feel that that's still like resonating in my bones right now. We are made up of so many parts of us. Y'all ever say, man, I hate that part of me. Or man that part always gets in the way, or I love that part of me.
We are made up of many parts. And I like to think of them as like little slit personalities, or even that little girl inside of you that still probably needing to heal, wanting to be heard. But if we think about all the parts and it's something, obviously something therapeutic I'm introducing to y'all. It's called parts work. Our personality, our identity is made up of all these parts. And you said achieving your way out of trauma. Here's the thought.
Who would have thought that achieving could have an adverse reaction or an adverse effect who would have thought it wouldn't have been probably a positive thing. So when we look at the parts that make up our body, There are the parts that we want to shine. Like, look at me, look at me. And they're the parts that we wish we didn't have procrastination perfectionism. And sometimes yes, eating over achieving can be an unwanted part based on how it's being activated in real life.
Because we can overachieve our butts to burn out to. Okay. And so I invite you all quit pushing those parts down, let those parts come up in your body because they need attention. The more you push them down, the more we're likely to sabotage when we're doing well. When we're in healthy relationships, it's going to come out. That's how to be agreed. And so when I just look at your t-shirt and your brand, Hey girl, heel, um, it speaks to that. Hey girl, comma, that comma is to pause. Just pause.
And remember heal. It has an ING for many of us, 99.9% of us. There is no EDF at the end. Ever we can desensitize and we can recover from experiences, but believe me, we are always in constantly healing. You identified yourself as a first-generation curse breaker. Educate us. Yes. So God gave me this role. It's very heavy. However, I'm the first person in my family who is embarking on this healing journey.
And one of the things that I've found a lot of frustration in, as I started, I've been in therapy for six years consistently. I run, Hey girl hill. I'm a mindset coach. However, one of the things that I struggled with it, I feel like a lot of black and brown families, or are first generational curse breakers struggle with, is your family not coming along with you?
And as a first generational curse breaker, you are paving the way you are blazing this new trail, because your desire is to break these curses and these toxic cycles off of your family. So just to be completely honest, the two that I. Wholeheartedly stand behind that. I'm breaking off my family, a single motherhood in poverty. And so being able to identify what those things are, my actions and my habits and my values and who I am.
I make sure that they align with the curses that I'm trying to break. So I can't say that I'm out here trying to break poverty, but I have bad money management skills or I'm throwing my money away at everything. Being the first generation of Curtis broker, is that person in their family. Who's the first person to say, yes, this has to stop.
Or yes, I will no longer, embark on this and I want to be able to help my family break this thing off of our family, whether it's intergenerational trauma, whether it's family trauma, whatever those things are. Those are the things that you say yes to sometimes saying, yes, it's scary, but you're committed to making sure that you heal yourself first to make sure that you're in a position to. Break those things off of your family. Yeah. Yeah. That's a powerful reflection question for you all.
What curse will you commit to breaking? What will you say yes to stopping? And perhaps it starts with doing less when you guys relate to something like. Propelling yourself out of poverty or even shipping a poverty mindset. Reframing a thought that keeps you in a spiral. So what curse will you commit to breaking? And, transparency mine. I committed to a long time ago. I was stopped the curse of sexual abuse in my family. And poverty.
Yes. Yes. And so reflect on that question and see what comes up for you. That's a great conversation to have, with your girlfriends or people who also desire to heal. You all have heard me talk about it time after time. And you're going to hear this come up. People in your lives can tribute to your healing or lack there of journey. We have got to stop giving people permission on how we heal and when we heal. Would you agree with that? At totally agree.
Healing is definitely up to you and you don't need external validation to heal. Right? Your journey is your journey, whether somebody judges you for, whether somebody has something to say about it, definitely continue to move forward because it is for. You and no one could tell you how to heal when to heal, where to heal what's best for you because you are the only person who knows you wholeheartedly. You're the only one who knows what you struggle with behind closed doors, right?
The things that you don't talk about, the things that you, um, you know, sweep under the rug or that what happens in this house stays in this house conversations that you've had. Right. You're the only person who knows that. And so definitely always choose you. And what's best for you. Absolutely. Absolutely. So healing seems so big. It's unattainable. You know, we got, uh, things happening to black and brown people every day. What's the point. Those are some of the things I hear people ask me.
How did you start your healing journey? Okay. It starts with a story. We like stories. Yes. I'm a storyteller. All the time. As far as the healing journey, just to backtrack a little bit, most of the time throughout my life, I said to achieving my way out of trauma. That was more SCO daddy issues that I had. I personally felt more so disappointment and unworthy and unloved because my dad not only live in the same city with me, but I had a sister who was two years older than me.
And he was very, very active in her life. We didn't have the same mom though, so I don't want. What you to think that, however, I feel like I wasn't good enough because you devote this time to my other sister, but you don't spend time with me. It wasn't until I was 25 years old, where I initiated the conversation with my dad to meet up and have dinner where he told me that he didn't, he wasn't around because he knew that my mom would take good care of me.
And so it was at that point that I realized that sometimes being superwoman sometimes serves as a curse, right. Being a strong, independent black woman, although we've done great things to move our lives forward and achieve. A lot of things. Sometimes people don't see it those same way that we see and they take it as, oh, she got it. Oh, she can handle it. Which for me resulted in me not having my dad in my life because my mom, had all of her stuff together.
And so all the while we're tired, Tired burnt out, beat down, mentally exhausted, overwhelmed, whatever overextended, whatever word you want to put there that you resonate with right now. It's not good. It's not for you. I developed a lot of daddy issues, the unworthiness, all the different things. My senior year in high school, my little brother, he passed away from pneumonia. I went to grief counseling for. I would like. Two months. The lady was not a brown, a black lady.
So I really didn't resonate with the grief counseling that I was getting. And so I told my mom, mom, I really don't want to do this anymore. So my mom supports everything that I do. So she was like, you know what? You don't have to go. However, I wish I would have stayed in there longer or found somebody else. Because I went to college, the year after. And I hadn't healed from losing my brother, unexpectedly. And so I went to college. I was drinking.
I was voted most likely to see the high school. I was the top 1% in high school. However, I went to college, I had a 2.8 GPA. I was on the grey goose. Had a fight. Got kicked out of college because it was on video at the dorm. And I went back to the same place that I said I'd never wanted to return. I went back to my room and my mom's house. And I realized like, okay, how did I do here? And that's when I realized that, okay. How did most likely to succeed?
Come back and as he's doing nothing right. And I realized it was because of the choices that I had made my, me running from the thing that I really needed, which was healing. And it's crazy that God led me to create eight, an entire movement or something that I ran from for so long. Going back home. It was an eye opener for me. Then it's 20 S. 2018. I broke up my engagement about five months before walking down the aisle because I realized there was still more parts of me that I needed to heal.
Or I became one with someone I realized there was still some other daddy issues and things that I needed to work on. I made one of the most courageous decisions of my life. Which was saying, okay, this is not for me at this time. And deciding to take my child and be a single mom. That's what I did in that moment. I talked about it on social media. However, one of the main responses that I got was from women. I'm happy for you, but I would have never been able to do that.
For me, the psychological desire that I have, like, I Bye. The how the mind works. And so just to hear women say, black women say that they would stay in something that no longer serve them, or they would allow someone to kind of just be a place holder in their lives while they figured out their healing journey or what, or them, or different things like that. I felt like it was kind of crazy to settle into a situation. If you know, that's not where you're supposed to be. Right.
If you're listening, there's no shade at all. If you are choosing to stay and have somebody be a placeholder, we know, it's, it's not just, oh, I can leave. There are some people who might be in domestically violent relationships. Lack of resources or have not had their healing reckoning yet. We called that, you know, our Shiro moment of you when you are at your rock bottom, or just at that pivotal moment, you're like something has to change. Yes. Definitely. And that's where I was with that.
It was a lot of crying and praying and rediscovering myself and just, spending time healing. Cause I was in therapy at that time and I believe I was in it for about a year, but as I was going, in addition to that and premarital counseling, there was a lot of things within myself that I was being able to see. I felt like the blinders were being taken off of me, in regular therapy and, and premarital counseling as well. And I was like, I'm not.
He'll not healed enough, but I'm not at a place where I can say yes to being someone's wife. There we go. Wow. That's powerful. You have an amazing story. And I know many of you all, you're like, that's my story. That's my story. And when I think about how God. Used your experiences as a catalyst. Here's the thing y'all will hear me say again. I don't believe people have to go through horrible life experiences to experience good things. I don't like that mindset.
Unfortunately, many of us go through them and it's important that we take what we need and leave what we don't from it to show up as our best version today. So I want you to be very clear of that and take that, how you want to, I don't believe people have to broken into pieces to do good to live. Well, you feel me? That's totally agreed, but we've been conditioned to that, especially. I grew up in a church. The struggle. We've got a struggle to get to. Good things.
Yeah. I was asked the pastor, I said, why do I gotta be broke down in a no body to get to know God, like don't God want to know a healthy, strong person. That's my daddy. He. The do good and look good and see. Good. Because that laying on the ground and all of that. But that is how many church folks have been conditioned. So one of the things I love doing is listening to people's experiences and pulling a literations out of it. A quick way to give a snapshot.
When I think of heal, it allows me to come up with an alliteration, based on those letters. And what's you're describing for the age is the half a hope, but also to get help, we are not meant to do this alone. I know we got independent sisters y'all and bill, all these businesses raised the kids and all the other things. Hope and help. We are not meant to do it alone. I believe when we can maintain hope, purpose and meaning.
We can go get anything and I say, get through it because that, it means. It's going to be perfect. But we can get through it and come out. Well. And another book I'm a throw at you all is by Victor Franco. You know, old school do from back in the day, he has a book called man's search for meaning, and he talks about it. He's watching his family during the Holocaust get murdered and all of these things. And somebody said, how did you. Keep your focus to stay alive.
And he said, hope purpose and meaning. Okay. And so for the E embrace. Challenges. And explore. So embrace and explore. It is so important that we embrace our challenges because, again, if we push them down, it's going to be very hard to find a starting point to change. And it's an exploration. You're a traveler, I'm a traveler. I couldn't possibly go and fear every time I get on a plane and go overseas, I embrace the expiration. A advocate and Alliance.
When you can learn the art of self-advocacy finding the words, finding what you need to speak up for yourself, telling people I'm not about that life. No more. You will not treat or talk to me like the old version of me, SIS is healing. Then that Alliance, going back to that help build your Alliance, of people who want to see you win and heal. It takes a team. L learn and listen, learn from the wisdom.
I recently had someone very special to me say, you know, Dominic Sometime you forget to apply the wisdom. I was hurt. Because my Sicily, but shout AI all up in me. And I clapped back and I was like, you know, and I, afterwards I was like, okay, I see what you mean. So learn to apply the wisdom. As this is saying to us. She's experienced it. She's created a movement to guide you, to nurture you on your journey. And then as you're learning from the wisdom, listen to learn.
An acronym and I'm done with my literations is wait, why am I talking? We have got to learn to listen and listen to Morne everything. And about always saying something healing doesn't always require words. So I know that was a mouthful, but y'all know, I love my literations to succinct information. Is there anything you would add or was that often mark on any of the things based on what you've shared? Oh, no, you were definitely spot on with everything. And I'm grateful for this conversation.
One thing that. I really, I specialize in. Is helping women turn their setbacks into major comebacks. So I don't know why I felt led to speak to the person who is ready to give up or the person who is seeing a current challenge as a dead end. I want to encourage you to continue to keep pushing and to keep going, to break through that barrier any way that you can so that you can get around to the other side. There is hope. Inhaling. I know it hurts, right?
Because we are ripping these band-aids off and we are exposing ourselves to parts of us that we've suppressed for so long, but I encourage you to stay in it. I encourage you to be consistent with it. I encourage you to choose yourself, right? Because the life on the other side of healing will blow your mind. Right? Because there are so many things that, you know, that you desire.
However you're held back at this time by maybe limiting beliefs, or maybe what somebody said about you, or maybe the labels that were placed on you, but I encourage you to keep going and do what it is that you need to do there. You can get past this. There are people right there. Spice persisters there's Hey girl. He'll there are communities of women who are waiting to welcome you with open arms. You just have to commit and say yes to. I mean with us along this journey. I am rooting for you.
And I love you guys. So you already started, identify some tangible things that they can, start working on to, unpack their setbacks and preparation for their comeback. You talked about consistency. What are some other tangible. Small things, small things they can do to make that transformation. Put it in motion. Yes. So I. Like live by journaling. We have a hago. However, that's where I started.
My healing journey was just putting my thoughts on paper, write every morning, every night, writing out how I truly feel, not the way that I try to show up for social media, not the way that I tell my family I'm fine, air quotes, but how do I truly feel today? Right. What does my body feel like? It allowed me to sit with my emotions, but also to put words to my emotions, right? I'm feeling overwhelmed.
My, when I'm feeling overwhelmed, my body feels like, you know, this bubbly sensation and I'm ready to go back to sleep, but I have responsibilities, whatever it is that you're building start there, right with the self-reflection putting it on paper. Also asking yourself those questions. Dominique gave you some questions to ask yourself, Throughout this episode as well, asking yourself the tough questions. What is it? What does it look like to be the first generational curse burger?
What curses am I breaking in my family? Being able to honestly answer those. I know many times we have a tendency to be somewhat defensive with people in, in our personal lives or in person, but paper allows you to be real right to elaborate. To tell exactly how you truly feel that and what it looks like for you, and then getting around communities and environments that encourage healing. That encouraged you to become a better version or more aligned. Version of yourself.
So the third thing I would say is focused on being present. I know one of the things that black women struggle with is being present. We're good at getting the degrees. We're good at, reading the self-help books and listening to the Sierra. Jake's Robert sermon, all of these things that we do, like. And. But I challenge you to be present with yourself. One of the things that my clients struggle with a lot is being present with themselves and their kids.
These are things that God blessed you with and just being able to get out of your head so that you can. Embrace and have a great time and actually just be fully present with the things around you and the people around you as well. Also last thing. That. Your work is not attached to your worth. Okay. The things that you do.
Those are just the things that you do, you are worried without having to do anything you are worthy for simply existing and being who you are right now, listening to this podcast, no matter what your hair looked like, your face is not beat on your clothes. You got on. You are worthy.
Exactly the way that you are and i want you to continue to remember that and tap into that you don't have to do achieve another degree you don't have to get another certification you don't have to attend another program to be worthy. You're already worthy the way that you are now the way that god created you Yeah. What do you Desire for women to see when they look At Their reflection in the mirror I desire for women to see.
Loaf. A lot of us didn't experience the love that we desired i'm gonna put we desired at the end of the growing up a lot of us didn't experience the love that we give In relationships right a lot of us are are superwomen, right we're catering to the needs of other people but when we need somebody nobody is available right i challenge you to see love within yourself and happiness within yourself without anything else attached to Right and that requires you to engage and embark on a self love
journey of what does it look like to love myself Right. Many of us could have pouring out love to other people but we suck at giving love to ourselves and so this may be the season where you embark on your self love journey what i call soul care Aaron for your mind your will and your emotions in this specific season and also knowing what is it that makes you happy okay that's another question that we can add to the list.
what is it that make you happy Okay many of us have been dancing to the beat of everyone else's drums where people may have been people pleasers throughout our lives or super women or whatever it is But what is it that makes me happy Yeah, right what makes me smile right outside of the dropping kids off at the activities or going to work or scrolling on social media what is it that truly makes me happy and get back into it right maybe for you for me it's volleyball maybe for you it's going to a
painting class or art exhibit or going to, i fly to risk your life or whatever it is Make sure that you find time to do those things that actually make you happy and here's the thing i think that that's going to be the journey many women don't even know they have made so many necessary and so many unnecessary sacrifices that they've kind of lost their sense of identity so i love the soul care i love that and so thank you thank you thank you so much As we get ready to wrap up please share with
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