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you don't start now. This is Space City Saturday. Here are seven nineties Astro's insider Michael Cunner, and it is a big day here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Fast paced because we are short. This show ja just an hour today until eleven, but I will be with you until eleven thirty because we will have the Astros on deck show following. As it is finally here people, Jay V Day is back in the city of Houston, technically in the Bronx, but he is going to take the mound at Yankee Stadium today
with Houston plastered across his chests. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that they're wearing the gray uniforms today, but maybe there were who Whatever uniform they're wearing today, it's either gonna say Houston or astros across that man's chest, and he is back in your lives, back in our lives. If you want to join us between now and eleven, you can do so at seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven one three two one two five seven
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oft MLB dot Com. I asked him to push back from his normal spot with us on the On Deck Show yesterday to today because well, today's Verlander Day and we would I would like to talk some JV with him, and of course on a day that it makes the most sense, because again he is back, and what a week it has been. Look, we have
a lot to get into. I do want to dedicate a segment during this first hour to college football because the mess that it is in terms of the craziness continues and a lot has changed even more in the last twenty four hours, and it doesn't look like the change might be stopping anytime soon because there's still a lot of teams in limbo. So we'll get into that before we get out of here in this first hour and go strictly back to Astro stuff
at eleven. But jert adjustin Verlander back for the Astros today against the Yankees. That are a very good win for the Astros last night against Louis Severino, who has got awful and you know, he pitched like he's got awful last night, and you know, you love to see it. For the Astros. Their offense went out there and took advantage of a very bad picture. And that's exactly what they got was a great performance out of that offense,
and that offense was doing everything that it needed to do. And Jordan hits a home run. They get Kyle Tucker another big hit for him as well. Just what a fun night. You always love the Yankees players or the Yankees fans there at Mint and met not Mintamid Park, Yankee Stadium, going out there and stink or having to deal with the fact that the Astros are taking it to them, and that's exactly what they did last night. They took it to them. Nice and you know rough, which you always
love. And today they looked to do it again with Justin Verlander on the mount. And I know that it's been a weird week. We've gone back and forth on a lot of things for the Astros in terms of how they got to this point of bringing Verlander back to the ball club. But here's the short term right now view. They needed him. That's it. They needed him him back. They needed a starting pitcher in the worst way. If you've been listening to this show on Saturdays for the last couple of months,
I've said it basically every single weekend. They needed starting pitching and the best starting pitcher available on the market was Justin Verlander. And they went out there and they got him. And you cannot be mad at all if that's what the baseball team decided to do, was to go and get his services. And that's exactly what they did. In you know, the fact that they brought him back by giving up their two best prospects, who by the
way, Ryan Clifford, one of them that they gave up. The other night, in his first at bat in the Mets system, hit a home run. That's the one that's going to hurt. He is going to be. Now. I'm not saying that Drew Gilbert's not going to be a good big league or Drew Gilbert's probably going to be a very good big leaguer.
I expected him to be an astro at some point next season, and I think that, you know, realistically they I know that Dana Brown kind of changed his tune on everything just a couple of days ago in terms of well, he's a corner outfielder and everything. I know they wanted him to be the center fielder probably at some point next year. But look, they also do have a center fielder right now, and Chaz McCormick and what he has gone out there and done, which is be awesome. The focus again is
on Verlander. We saw last night Hunter Brown third consecutive, really strong start for him. If he continues to find that consistency that he needs to have, this team is going to be in a very good spot. They get jose Er Keaty back tomorrow, which, by the way, if you miss the news on that or Keaty Back France JP France will be available out of the bullpen tomorrow. He's not necessarily moving to the bullpen, is what they say right now, I don't know how they're going to make this work going
forward in terms of the rotation. Here's the facts, though, Excuse me, the Astros have more starters than they need given the schedule and the days off that they have. I've brought this up many times. The month of September they have every single third Thursday off, and you can't really do a
six man rotation unless you want it to it. It's pointless almost to do that, because then you're gonna be giving six seven days off for starters the rest of this month of August. They're off on Monday, which by the way, will be the day that they go to the White House. Justin Verlander, when we check him with Brian McTaggart, he tweeted out, he told I guess mctagger or everybody yesterday that he might wear a gold suit to the White House on Monday. So Jav's gonna go and style. But they'll
be off again next Thursday. So they have a stretch here of nine games in a row, and then they play from the eighteenth until the thirty first, and then again in that month of September, every single Thursday they are off. So it's hard to manipulate your rotation. But the facts are the facts right now, and Mauricio Dubon, not y. I'm saying, Mariesea
d Monks. I'm looking at a tweet about him right now. He's actually in the line of today Jav's personal catchers back today, by the way, But JP France, he is. He has been one of your most consistent starters. I don't think you can knock him out of the rotation. It's unfair to him in the performance that he's given you. So what will they do? The biggest question coming off of this week, and it's gonna take
I think some more starts of being bad. Do you consider going ahead and bumping Javier back to the bullpen where he's had some success and you know, maybe it's easier for him to pitch from the standpoint of he's been dealing with what we know is dead arm and he doesn't have it all. So I do wonder if that's a possibility for this ball club. I do not know if that is or not. We will see, but they're gonna have to figure it out. At the end of the day, they get two aces
back into this staff. You'd love for it to be a third by having Javier b Javier, that would be awesome, But you have Verlander, you have Fromber. Of course, Fromber a little bit extra motivated the other night with what he went out and did against the Guardians, tossing a no hitter, which was just awesome. Again, what if freaking week it was for the Astros overall what they were able to accomplish, but getting him back and getting Verlander back, Now, look, Verlander, we watched how the season
ended for him last year, and the regular season was unbelievable. You have a sub two era, you're the unanimous Alsy Young Winner, and there's every reason why he should have been voted that way as well, there's nobody else that was as good as him last year. Postseason Wheels fell off outside of
the start against the Yankees. Now that's the good news is that today he comes back to the Astros and is playing a team that he's are facing, a team that he's already faced twice this season, has been excellent against them two more times this year, was excellent against them in the ALCS last year. Then you just go look at the lineup at the Yankees roll out every single day and you see all the swinging miss in it, and you say,
justin Verline is probably gonna have a good day today. I'd be surprised if he does not do well in this one. And I say that, and I'll probably jinks him. No, I don't want to do that. He's going to have a good day today. We all probably know that, and I think the Yankees deep down in know that as well, because he's kind of their daddy. They, by the way, are going to have Aaron Judge back in their lineup today. He was out yesterday, did pinch
hit for them late in the ballgame. Gean Carlos Stanton also in the lineup because he is homered in both games of the series so far. So those are the guys that you watch out for. But Verlander it's not. And look, really since he's come back from the side or from the Tommy John, it's not been pre Tommy John Verlander. The swinging miss that he gets has been different. Now. Last year it was fine, it was really good. Still, he did get a lot of strikeouts. He had more
strikeouts than innings pitch. This year it's not been the same. Now. His season started off, he had the injury in the spring, started off a little late. It was in the month of May, had to get himself back and going, and in the last month he started to pitch more like himself. But here's the difference that I think we will see today and you'll see throughout his ten year back. It takes him a little bit more work to get through hitters, counts run a little bit longer. Not that
he's throwing more balls. He still throws a very high percentage of strikes, but it takes more work to get those guys out and it makes the counts go deeper, and then on top of that as well, the pitch count runs up a lot faster. He's just not consistently going six and seven. He's going five and a third, five and two thirds, six six and a third, six and two thirds, and not reaching that seventh inning as
much as he has in the past. Now, look from the astro stamp on him to get back to being that guy, because we all know how much the workload has been put on the bullpen overall this season and the exhaustion that they've put on a few of those guys, and you want to help that out. And that's a big reason why you get this guy back now, this guy, like I mentioned, misses the month of May, and
you know, is he a little bit more fresh than other times. I was texting with Steve Sparks the other day and he's gone back and watched a lot of his stuff now. He said to me in the text that we were going back and forth, he said, he looks fresh. He said, I think he looks really fresh compared to where he was last year, and he expects a lot out of it. As I mentioned, that month of July was good for Verlander. In that month he did go at least
six innings in four starts. Out of the six he made, the other two were five and five and a third. There were a couple of games that were walk heavy, or I should say three of them six and one three and another four in another. That's the other concerning thing is that there have been a lot of walks. He has more walks this season in ninety four and a third innings, I believe is the number yet ninety four and a third innings, he has thirty one walks, where in one hundred and
seventy five innings last year he had twenty nine. And he's never been a guy when he's with the Astros at least that walks a lot. And now look, early in his career, he was always a high walk guy. He was walking sixty plus basically every single season up until twenty fifteen, then again in twenty seventeen, but most of those came when he was with the Tigers. Really, since he's got into the Astros. Now, look, I'm just gonna be completely honest with you, and I think everybody knows that
once he got to the Astros, he stopped walking. Guys. He was probably putting stuff on his fingers. And we've seen the case that was made the other day in court or that was settled out of court with the Angels and their guy. But that's okay, everybody. Look, it's not the okay, take them, but I'm not worried about it. Everybody in the sports doing it. Trust me, every single pitcher in baseball is still using
something on their fingers. They can tell you they're not. They absolutely are so not too concerned about that, but would like to see, of course, the walk number come down for Verlander moving forward. But they got him back. That's what matters, and it is completely surreal to see him out there to see him the other day at the podium wearing the ASTROS hat, going through it all. You know, it's weird for him. He basically said just as much in that press conference. I'll give you some of that
here come up throughout the show. Seven one three two one two five seven nineties the number to join us this morning. We're with you until eleven thirty we officially go into Astros on Deck mode. Coming up at eleven. We'll
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o'clock this morning, when we transition into Astro's on Deck mode. We're basically doing Look, it's an extended basically hour and a half Astro's on Deck Show today if you would like to join us in this first hour seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven one three two one two five seven ninety on the return of Justin Verlander, who, by the way, spoke with the media a couple of days ago up there in New York, and of
course the number one question that came out of it when it came to trade was coming back to Houston his of course preferred destination. Yeah. I mean I think this when after I had some conversations with Billy and Steve about next season and their plans, I think, you know, entertaining the idea of a trade and and waving my no trade clause, I think Houston was,
you know the number one choice for me. The just knowing these guys so well, and you know, having a chance to win, you know, the familiarity, and you know, I had such a great time here, so yeah, you know that was yeah, number one choice. It's good to hear of course, and I think we all knew that that was going to be the thing. You know, you're not putting this player up. And I know that there's been a lot reported about teams that were interested in
him outside of the Astros. There was a report this week the Red Sox were interested. Of course, we knew that the Dodgers were interested early on. The Rangers were a team, it was reported, but they went and moved to the Max Scherzer thing real quick. And I don't even think messed with the Justin Verlanders thing, because I don't He wasn't interested in them in the off season when they tried to sign him, And I doubt that that
he was really interested in going back there. Now he if he was going, if he was leaving somewhere, He's coming back to Houston because he chose living in New York. He and his wife did, Kate Hupton, you know, And I say chose living in New York. The New York Mets gave him the biggest offer that he received. Is reported that the Dodgers gave him two for eighty. We don't know exactly what the Astro Rose gave as well, but it was you know, it's probably a significant offer, just
not anywhere near what they had offered. If the Astros had offered more than the Mets, he would have probably stayed in Houston and he never would have had to do any of this, which would have been nice and giving up a couple of prospects that you really were counting on for the future. But he and his wife also had the idea of living in New York and that's a transition, and that's a thing, and I get where that would be
difficult. I think if you had presented to him. Now, look, winning, like he mentioned, winning a championship at this stage of his career is when you're making these kinds of decisions is what matters more than anything else. And he wouldn't wasn't just gonna jump like you know. I know there are some reports out there that the Reds were interested. He we all know he was not going to pick up and go live in Cincinnati, Ohio and
play for a franchise that's historically cheap. Now it does have a ton of young talent, right like he was, that was never gonna be a thing. I question if you would even be interested in Baltimore. Baltimore didn't have a history of spending a lot in the off season. You know, they do have a ton of They're they're going to be a monster like they've built it with the Astros people there to where it's going to be an Astros like thing for a very long time there. In terms of their success, they're
gonna be awesome. But I doubt that he would have gone to Baltimore. I really do think that if he was leaving the Mets, I think he was only going to take two places. He was gonna take Houston and I say, LA, But I don't know necessarily that he wants to be a Dodger. But you know, if the Dodgers had presented an offer, I would be I wouldn't be surprised if he accepted it if it was the best
offer, and that's what the Mets brought to him. That's the credit to the Mets here for knowing the player and taking care of the player too, is that they went to JV and said, Okay, here's the deal. We got a deal done with Houston, will you go? And he came right back. It works well with the staff, as you heard, We know how much the pitching staff has worked well with him. Throughout the years
as well, and the players know him and you it's it's familiarity. I had, you know, living wise, if he's I would assume he's bringing the family down for the rest of the season. I don't know what their situation is, but wherever he lived when he was here before, if it's available or you know, they can, they will have. They have the ability to find anything that they want with the amount of money that those two have very quickly. But it's still it's it's just this extremely odd bizarro world
that he is back there. Of course, one of the most important things in this was the relationship with Jim Crane. Here is jv on just that I mean a lot, you know. I think it's when you're gathering the information and that's all you can do as a player. Right in this situation with the note trade, cause is I try not to get too far ahead of myself. I try to gather as much information as possible and and then make an educated decision. You know, everything goes into that bucket when you're
gathering information. My relationship with Jim, my relationship with my teammates, the coaching staff, familiarity with Houston and the fan base and spring training location.
You know, all of it is what really went into my thought process leading up to this again, gathering information on there's not a lot of information to gather, you know, what you're coming back to here, but the stuff there matters, and we know that, and we all knew that if he was coming back here, more than anything, was gonna be a Jim Crane led thing because those two are close, and that's where at the end of
the day. And we've talked about that this week seriously as much as we get and I got to like part of me has a hard time stomaching the situation. Now. Look, hindsight is easy to do. I get that the Astros, if everything went right this season, would not have had to go back down this road and go get justin Verland, or they might not
have been interested in him. If Garcia doesn't have his arm fall off, if Lance but Colors ever pitches this season, if Urkeiti doesn't miss months of the season, they might have been just fine in the rotation, and we'd be sitting here today saying, well, they got like three relievers and you'd be happy. But it went this way. I was never mad like everybody else that you moved on from him from the standpoint of you didn't like the contract. The Mets are paying a ton of it, which is great.
It makes the astro's life a lot easier. And that's Jim. That's been Jim Crane's philosophy forever. Correct. The first time he acquired Verlander, he did not pay all the salary. Now he did approve, of course, with Luno directing it at the time, an extension for Verlander two years, sixty six million, which of course he did not pitch under. O you
shouldn't say didn't pitch under. He made one start, opening Day in the middle of the summer twenty twenty at Minute Made Park against the Seattle Mariners. Pitch well, I was there still the strangest environment I have ever been in my life, a completely empty ballpark playing baseball. It was weird, but he was good. But he one game in that contract, missed the twenty twenty one season, missed the World Series run that year, losing to the
Braves. But then comes back and of course gets the cy young last year, gets another World Series and it felt like a storybook ending to his time like that is the truth of the matter. But now the storybook ending gets to continue, and I'll go ahead. And we were talking this week during the A team I was in with Adam Wexler all this week. If you missed any of that, you can always catch the podcasts on the website sports Talk seven ninety dot com. It feels like it with his return, now,
this is it. He's not pitching for anybody else. He of course is under contract through next season, and if he throws one hundred forty innings next year, his contract vests for the next season at thirty five million, which the Mets are paying like seventeen million of that that would put him through the age of forty three. He has always said forty five astros are still
competitive at that point, he's still good. It's hard to imagine the astro saying, hey, you know what, JV, just go ahead and walk away. They'll keep they'll keep running it back with him. And part of me, at that point, you're so far in, you're so invested, and you've had this guy for so long, and you know there's part of the history of it. I would love, I think, like a lot of you, to see the day come where Justin Verlander is going into the
Hall of Fame and he's wearing that astro's cap on his plaque. That'd be awesome. They've never put a picture in with an astro's cap in the Hall of Fame. Now, look the circumstances and everything. Whatever it might have been, it was a mistake by the Hall of Fame to put Nolan Ryan in as a Ranger. It was a mistake, I think by everybody on that part. But I get that his relationship there and everything else was a little bit different. They kind of ended on a sour note here in Houston
with ownership back in the day. But he should have been in as an astro. The majority of his work of his career came as an astro. Hell, he could have been an angel and angel or an astro is what his hat should be in the Hall of Fame, not a Ranger. And if there's anybody out there that's a Rangers fan or from Dallas, it's listen to it and thinks I'm crazy, You're wrong, flat out, But it would be awesome to have that guy go in one day and have that Astros,
that Houston logo on that hat in the Hall. That opens up this possibility again. He is which, by the way, I'm gonna go ahead and give you if you're paying attention in the next hour. He does have two hundred and fifty career wins. Now we all know that he would love to get to three hundred. We've not seen a three hundred game winner.
I need to pull up the list. It's been a long time since we've had somebody get to three hundred wins, and it's gonna become even more rare as we continue to move on with the way that they handle starting pitching in today's world. The last guy to reach the three hundred win number was Randy Johnson in two thousand and nine. It was actually on this day back in two thousand and seven, by the way, that the previous pitcher before him, Tom Glavin, on this day in two thousand and seven, got win
number three hundred of his three hundred five in his career. But the Astros have a chance to have a guy that could be here and maybe maybe can get to that number. And for what I was going to tell you is, if you're listening in the next hour of the show, in the pregame show, the trivia question, here's your answer. Sixty one sixty one wins lifetime for Verlander with the Astros. Of course, that does not count the postseason, where he has the majority of his career postseason wins. With the
Astros, he has sixteen of them lifetime. Finally got that World Series win last year, but has two, four, five, six, seven, eight nine of his sixteen postseason wins as an Astro, and of course has won two of his three cy Young Awards here in Houston outlook, he did win an MVP and a Rookie of the Year and a pitching Triple Crown in Detroit. It's gonna be difficult, but it's going to take a few more years of adding some stuff on, I think for the Hall of Fame,
who ultimately does have the right to the decision on this. Every single time that a guy goes in seven three, two on two five, seven nineties the number to join us here on Space City Saturday. We'll take a quick time out when we return. I do want to get into the craziness of college football, which started I shouldn't say started. It's been going on, but it got even wilder yesterday. We'll get into that next here on seven
ninety Welcome back to Space City Saturday on Scorts Talk seven ninety. We're into the final half hour of this show. Coming up at eleven, we transition into Astros on deck here on Sports Talk. It's seven ninety. My Connor back here with you. If you'd like to get in seven three, two on two five seven ninety on Twitter at mcven ninety is the way to join me there of course as well. But the Astros and the Yankees coming up
twelve oh five, first pitch. I'll be back with you after the game as well for the tenth inning show here on seven ninety, which last night we you know, got through some phone calls. It wasn't the most crazy because the Astros went out on one. I do always appreciate when we're a little bit less on the wild side because that means the Astros did well, and they did exactly that last night. Justin Verlander back on the mount today, but mentioned it ahead of the break and if you were for some reason
under a rock yesterday or just not paying attention. First of all, I have always since it started back in the day, loved the college football realignment talk. And I think it's kind of like hit NBA free agency talk, like there's a lot of the time. Now, I love the Rockets like
everybody else, and I'm excited to get them back. But during the regular season of an NBA season, at times, and I guess you could get that way with baseball too, it becomes like exhausting, or it's so long, there's so many games that you just kind of tune it out to an extent and you're more worried about the player move With the player movement in the NBA, I think is always a little bit more fun and spicier to talk
about than the actual on the court stuff. At times. I've loved from the moment we started getting football college football realignment talk like twelve years ago, it has just been this crazy, crazy thing that has not gone away. I can remember when it started. It was all the talk of getting teams
to leave the Pac twelve to join the Big twelve. Never happened. Eventually, of course, the teams leave the Big twelve for the SEC and the Pac twelve and the Big Ten. Nebraska goes to the Big Ten, Colorado goes Pac twelve, A M leaves for a M, Missouri lee for the SEC, and it felt like the Big twelve is dying. They held on through the years. Of course, they tied all their hopes to the Longhorns, who have been a colossal disappointment basically every single season. Yes, I'm
talking to you, Longhorn fans. You know that you're a complete underwhelming, under achieving football program considering how much money you make in the expectation and honestly, the level of the conference throughout all these years, how the Longhorns haven't been consistently dominating that conference is kind of embarrassing. And I think that any Longhorn with a level head there would probably tell you the same thing. That you're Texas, you should get every player that you want. You have an
unbelievable campus, you have unbelievable facilities. You're in an awesome city for college students. Like if I was a college football recruit and Texas was chasing me, I'd go there all day over any any other school in this state. And that's no disrespect of what they've done in College Station, TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech, wherever it might be. You of h I would go to Texas all day long. It's just better and they haven't been able to
do it. And a lot of that's been the coaching throughout the years. Of course, after mac Brown, you know, Charlie Strong was a complete disaster. Tom Herman turned into a disaster eventually, But it's not like Sarkiesan's been any better. Now he's getting better recruits probably than they've had out of
any of those guys at any time. Of course, and more importantly, the quarterback position quin yours this year, arch Manning waiting in the wings to take over, which we assume is after this season, Texas should start feeling like they're back. But oh wait, they're leaving for the SEC, which is going to be extremely difficult for them to go and win immediately. And if you think that they're going to the SEC and immediately winning, I'd be
surprised. Now look A and M did it. Now again, they did it because any more than anything, they hit on a quarterback in Johnny Manzil and that allowed them to go in there and win. So they can do that. If arch Manning is a you know, everything that arch Manning has talked about being, they can win. We'll see how the conference aligns or aligns things up schedule wise, and or you know, we do know the schedule. I guess what for next year, but how they consistently do all
that, and it's there's a lot of moving parts. But last night, or yesterday after, and really the day before, we're seeing the death of
the Pac twelve. Now, I've always been a Pac twelve fan from the standpoint of I think, like everybody else, you love late night Saturday West Coast football at twelve thirty in the morning, and it's you know, Oregon versus Washington State, and it's sixty two to fifty eight with fourteen minutes left in the fourth quarter at twelve thirty in the morning, and you're like, let's go. This is what I'm talking about. You rather had too many
beers. You've just been sitting around at your house and whatever it is you're watching college football to like one one thirty in the morning. It's awesome. That's dying, to an instance, never going to completely die. They'll still
play late games at night, but the conference is dying. Arizona after Arizona follows Colorado to the Big Twelve, and then last night it becomes official that the Big Twelve votes in approves the additions of Utah and Arizona State to the conference as well, which is a very big deal for the conference to get the rest of the probably most significant schools available in the Pac twelve into their conference. I know that Arizona and Arizona State don't have this unbelievable rich history
of being incredibly successful at football. Utah has been awesome for a very long time with Kyle Whittingham. I think that that is a sneaky, great addition for the Big Twelve. The number one thing that is stands out through all of it is that the Big Twelve has done an unbelievable job of saving their conference. They knocked their commissioner hire out of the park in in Brett Yormack.
He's been awesome and he's gotten them an awesome TV deal, and the Big Twelve has put itself in a spot where they are now, without a doubt, the third best conference in college college football, in college sports period. It sounds like, I mean, the ACC should survive. The Florida State thing is interesting. You think that if they're leaving, they're trying to get to the Big Ten at this point because the Big Ten might try to
expand to twenty. They add Oregon and Washington, which is another good get
for them the Big Ten, though is so funky. And that's the part that you do hate of all this is that you know you've killed rivalries in some spots, like no offense to the schools that are going UCLA USC Oregon Washington, Like nobody's gonna get jazzed up for Oregon versus Illinois, or Oregon versus Indiana, or UCLA versus per Due, Like those do nothing the Big Ten for a conference that has some really good historic programs in Ohio State,
Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State. There's a lot of crap in that conference, and they are a little bit I've always felt it's an overhyped conference. Now with the addition of the West Coast teams, it's a big day. It's just gonna be weird. You wish it was more, you know,
geographically driven. And I will give the sec that they have stayed and Greg Sanky has always said that they want to stay geographically aligned, so that I interested in going out and jumping and getting teams way west or way far east, northeast, north, whatever it is. They've stayed in that southern region of the United States, in the south southeastern region of the United States. Texas is as far as over as they're going. They're the powerholder in
all this. They're the best damn conference. We all know that, and that's not changing anytime soon. So the madness is not going to stop anytime soon, you think. But the Big twelve is secured its life with what they've done the other conferences. The PAC twelve is on its deathbed. The ACC is in a weird spot. I think I would prefer, probably like the ACC to not watch that conference implode. And people love to get hot and by oh, it's all about money. Of course, it's all about
money. That's all this sport, all sports are. It's about money. As long as you can turn on College Game Day on Saturday morning and then transition into a crappy Big ten battle between Indiana and UCLA. Yeah, at eleven am, you're gonna be fat and happy. Turn on the SEC at two thirty. Follow that up with a good Big twelve matchup, maybe in the evening or in the late afternoon into the night, and maybe another SEC
matchup for the night game. Before the late night game. We're all gonna be happy here in a few weeks and in the next year when all the changes do come. Seven one three, two, one, two five, seven nineties are number one final segment of this show. Those you unhold stick there, We're gonna take a quick time out. We'll come back wrap up the thoughts of this show before we transition into the Astros on Deck Show coming up at eleven Here on Sports Talk seven ninety This is Space Cities Saturday on
Sports Talk seven ninety one. It's our final few moments of Space City Saturday. We will transition into the Astros on Deck Show here at the top of the hour, getting you ready for the return of Justin Verlander today to the mound for the Astros twelve O five, the first pitch. I'll be with you for the on Deck Show from eleven to eleven thirty, then of course after the ball game for the tenth inning show as well. I want to get you guys in on the phones before we get out of here for again
this part of the show. Brian McTaggart will join us in about thirty minutes here on seven ninety to give us the updates from up there in New York. Rogers on the line wants to talk to us here this morning. Hey Roger, Good morning, guys. Hey, I don't want to be a downer. I was a good win yesterday. I just I'm not I'm not understanding dust this philosophy. So later in the season, we're coming down the home stretch on on a division, on a division chase, and he's still
teakering with the lineups. You know, I don't understand the Cassenger. I'm he got Aldres at DH is fine, you kidding, you know, there's some way you got to fit that. The das back in the lineup. Man, it just means so much right now. Every game matters, you know, every game counts. So I'm not just understanding Gusts philosophy. So late in the season, we're just kind of annoying as a matter of fact to me. And that's all I had. Fellows, have a good day,
Thank Roger. Look and yeah, the lineup today, I'll just go ahead and give it. I'll give it again before we get out of the on deck show today, I'll two Day at second Painia short Tucker and right Bregman at third, Jordan DH McCormick and laughed dubon the return of Verlander's personal center fielder is back. He's bat in seventh and playing center. Greg Hessenger is starting today at first base and batting eighth. Then Martine Moulton Island is
catching and batting ninth. I am with you from the standpoint of Yaner Diaz. I don't know how you don't get this bat consistently in there every single day. It makes no sense. We were all told ahead of the season that you know, this is a guy that's got some versatility, playing the outfield a little bit and play him at first base, he can play him other places. And then he sat for the first two months. It was
dumb. Snow the way around it, it was dumb. He gets playing time, of course when the ordon goes down, basically starts dh ing all the time. And he's hit fourteen home runs this year. It's a three run bomb last night. And look Yannar Diaz is not the next coming like he has flaws. He cannot continue to be the guy that he is as now. Look it's his rookie year. You get him room to grow. He's only walked up, believe, six times this year. That's atrocious.
He swings at everything. He has to find a way to work on his plate discipline. If he doesn't at some point in his career, it's going to catch up to him. He'll be a guy that doesn't get on basic a good clip. Teams won't value him, and as his skills diminished as he gets older, he will be become a negative at the plate. Look
at Hobby Bayaz of the Detroit Tigers. There are so many similarities in terms of the way that they approached the plate between Yanar Diaz and Hobby Bayas guy who had a ton of success early in his career, put up a bunch of numbers, hit really well. He's now into his thirties and he has been god awful and his plate decisions have gotten worse and worse than There's the mental side of that that makes things worse as well, so Daz has to
figure that out. But flat out, he's been one of your best hitters, even with his lack of on base skills this season, he hits a three run jack last night. He finds a way to get hits basically every time he's out there. And he's not in the lineup today, I understand that matchups and stuff are important. I got a couple of tweets about it to day, like, oh, well, he's not good against left handed pitch. He's had like fifty nine at bats in his big league career against
left handed pitching. You don't know that. I don't know that he hit over two eighty against big league left handed pitching in the minor leagues. No offense to Great Kessenger. Great Kessenger is not a big league player, has not proven to be a big league player. I don't understand necessarily why he's on the roster, to be honest with you, I don't I know that he has versatility to play across the endfield. He doesn't play, he sits. Why is he here? And then you have a day like today where
honestly, your infield probably won't work a lot today. Verlanders a flyball pitcher, So I understand you wanna have your you know, perfect outfield defense that you can get out there for him today. But he's a flyball pitcher that typically gets flyballs or strike as. There's not a lot of balls on the ground for Justin Verler. Yan Ardas can handle playing first base. There's no
excuse for yan Erdas to not be in the lineup today. And I, like the rest of you, I'm not on this train of crush and Dusty Baker in the lineups every single day. It's a long season. You're gonna use different lineups. Guys are gonna get days off. It is what it is. But the guy had a three run bomb last night in the first any in a ballpark that profiles to what he can do. Yander can hit it out of any ballpark. The guy hits the piss out of the baseball
when he hits it. But he has an incredible ability to hit the ball to right field. You saw it last night. He didn't crush that home run. You flick a ball out to right field of Yankee Stadium. You got a three o lead. Why is he not in the lineup? It does not make sense at all. We'll ask Brian mctaggard about it at MLB dot com coming up during the Astros on Deck Show. No, we're gonna go to the top of the hour here and then we'll get back into the
Astros on Deck Show here in a moment. But on this Yiner Diz thing with the Astros, he just has to be in the lineup every day. He's been one of your best hitters this season for a team that has had incredible inconsistency. In terms of their offense, and not enough thump at times. This guy, so far this season and when he has played, and he has played a total of sixty eight games, two or thirty one at
bats, has hit fourteen home runs of his sixty three hits. I mean hell, twenty eight of his sixty three hits have gone for extra bases, twenty eight of them. If you just go for comparison, say Josea brey You plays every day, Josea brey You has four hundred ten at bats, one hundred and seven games played. He's not in the lineup today. He has twenty six extra base hits extra base hits this season. Yiner Diaz has played half the time basically and has twenty eight. You have no business not
playing this guy every single day at all. And I'm not interested in the excuses. I'm not interested in hearing anything else. I don't you know what, if you're concerned about him against left handed pitching, the only way to find out is to give him actual at bats against it. You can't make a determination off of fifty something at bats at the big league level period in the story. So I will say again they are wasting their time today playing
great Kessinger at first base, Yaner Diaz can completely handle it. Now. Look, they've put themselves in a roster bind I get that because he is the backup catcher, and you know you don't want to lose the backup catcher. You don't want to get both guys hurt. But that's your decision. You've done this. You can't keep one of your best bats out of the lineup every sing the day, and that's what they're doing with Theanar Das. Let's go to Actually, Scott just hung ups and never mind, we were
gonna get it quick phone calling. So again that's my thoughts on it. I don't know if they're going to necessarily continue to go through that. I think on a day like today, I'd be less concerned about putting Das in the lineup and playing first base because you could just transition him over to the catcher spot if you need two, and then put a bray you in a first base if you had to do that to where if you do, if you dhim, of course you lose your dh At that point you're playing old
school National League baseball, which is a problem. But I just I'm not interested in looking at an Astro's lineup that does not have him in it. Don't tell us before the season that there's this versatility and everything, and then you're afraid to use him at first base for whatever reason. It's just dumb. Now, look, playing the Yankees today, I'm not as concerned about it as you typically would be because the Yankees are throwing a nextra Cortez.
He's not been very good this season. The Astros last year in the postseason got to him. I think that the Astros match up very well with him today. Oh my watch is going off. I will say the other part of the line of today that bugs me Jeremy Paine in the two hole. Jermy Paine has shown no signs of improving. He showed no signs of anything going well. He's hitting everything on the ground or he's striking out. But
they got him slatted back up in the two hole today. I understand you want to get a guy going, you want to get protection or everything, but you're giving your most advanced to one of your worst hitters on the team, and Jeremy Painia consistently. Why why Chas McCormick has been red hot put him in the two hole? He crushes left handed pitching. Put him in the two hole today. It makes no sense. There's not an excuse. There's not a single answer in the world that makes sense as to why Chas
McCormick can't hit two today and Jeremy Painia has to hit two. I don't even care if you're gonna be stacking Painia, Dubon, Kessinger, and Maldon on a back to back to back to back. I don't care. What I care about is al Twoba, McCormick, Tucker Bright and Alvarez all hitting together and getting those guys the most advats that you can get. But you need to put pain in the two hole today. Now. Watch, he's gonna go out and I know he had a couple hits last night. They're
infield hits. He's gonna go out today and hit like a he did hit a home run off of courts last year in the postseason. I'm forgetting that that's on me off top of my head. I'm probably gonna go out and hit two jacks today and make me look like an idiot. That's fine if I prefer that to happen. So that's where I keep getting back to some of the lineup decisions. I get why you guys get so frustrated. There are days where it irritates me too, and today when I look at it
for the return of Justin verte Lander two today too. This is not your optimal offensive lineup. It's just not. And you have a day off on Monday. You should have no concern about getting guys days off a bray you. I'm fine with getting a day off today. He's gone back into a complete tailspin in the last week, has dropped his batting average back down I believe below two forty. He's been awful. Get him out of there, get his mind off of it. But they should not be running out a
lineup when they have days off available coming up. That's not their best offensive lineup because when you get to the postseason, you're gonna need your best offensive lineup to win baseball games. And they'll probably make the mistake and I'm doing that in the first couple of games and their offense won't be great. Then they'll have to pivot really quick and go do it. We see it happen to not just the Astros, to every single team every year. They do
this. They overthink things, They play matchups too much, and this is one of those spots. We will take a quick time out here on Sports Talk as seven ninety this is the end of a Space City Saturday, so when we return, we'll get back into the Astro's discussion. We'll officially get you ready for JV Day as we will kick off the Astros on Deck show coming up momentarily here on Sports Talk seven ninety
