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One moment and one mistake was all it took and your Seattle Sounders twenty twenty four season has unfortunately come to an end. An eighty fifth minute goal by to John Joviolch and it was on a giveaway from Alex Roldan. Ricky Pooch found Joviovich and he put it in the back of the net bottom left corner past Stephen Frye and the LA Galaxy, with a one nothing win, will be hosting New York Red Bulls in MLS Cup as
Seattle's season has come to an end. Welcome in to our postmatch show here on a Sounders FC radio on iHeartRadio. Jackson Feltz, Calenroe Pete viewing here for the next I don't know, however, long to talk about the game, talk about the season, talk about a number of things, because it is very heartbreak, to say the least, what we just witnessed, and it's it's sad that it has to end on that kind of a late goal and that kind of a moment, you know, obviously for Alex rolled On,
you know, very very tough for him. It's not going to be a fun flight back home. But I think we kind of we stagger this postgame show and we kind of let's talk about the game, let's talk about the season, and let's talk about what's ahead in our
three segments. Let's start by talking about this game, Kellen and how you know, we were really into it at halftime, saying that this team with zero zero, and even then I would say the eightieth minute, we're like, okay, let's go defensively, so good for so long, but it is a one nothing loss in the end, and the season has come to an end. Let's just get your opening thoughts in Pete two on this specific game.
I thought, you know, for those eighty eighty four minutes eighty five minutes, it was a quality game from Seattle. They were compact, they were hard to break down. The Galaxy was getting frustrated, their attacking players were getting frustrated.
I think in the second half, Galaxy started pushing a little higher, making the Sounders have some mistakes, and you saw it with the goal in that first half, it was way too easy for Seattle to just turn in the midfield and play a ball wide and they were out. In the second half, you saw Pooge step up a little higher. Obviously Delgado stepped back a little bit and he was able to move around and make things a little harder. But Seattle controlled the game for the fair
amount of the game. They controlled the game. They had chances, but either team didn't really have chances where you're going, oh, that was a good saver, that was a miss. It was a few times whereas half chances here and there. And I think that's the story of Seattle as of late, is where's the offense whereas where are the chances being created?
But you know, overall, I think this game was a positive, And I think when we were watching this game, we're all kind of sitting back almost a little surprised or how well we are playing against this quality team and where we're shutting things down. We weren't so much surprised on the defensive side, but the way that we controlled the midfield and controlled the wings, I think was a huge positive for this game.
For the salesounders, yeah.
I felt like we made them look very ordinary as the game went on. But you're playing against a team that has extraordinary talent and you can only keep him out for so long. And it is the brutality of a game where you make one mistake and they capitalize on it. It was a perfectly weighted pass from Pouge and the finish from Jolovich just you know, Steph FRAI got a hand on it, right, You got a hand on his body weight was going to his left, shot
went to his right. If he gets maybe another inch or half inch of hand on that.
Ball, do you want to make me feel worse?
P So it's just one of those things that I mean, I think Brian Schwitzer, I think after this one he'll he'll be in the locker room and say, I'm really proud of you. This team started one five and three. I remember being at training one day when they were one five and three and Brian. Brian was sort of dismayed and almost laughing, saying I have no ever coached or played on a team that's been this bad. And yet there was a tone of I'm not giving up, right, I'm not getting We're gonna get it right.
We're gonna figure it out.
But for them to start like that, I mean, I remember he was saying to Wade Weber, and I was just like, I can't believe for one, five and three, and then you look at where they end up. And then that LA team was so talented, and the LA team last week was so talented, and they were able to take a group that has gotten better and better and figured it out as they've gone, and it was just unfortunate. I thought some of the quality crosses that we had, if we get a goal before they do,
it changes the tenor of the game. It maybe puts LA even tighter and more on edge, and maybe we get it. If we had so many good JP had a great cross when he subbed in, and then Georgie Peter de la Vega.
If we just get on the end of one of those who put it.
Away, we could be getting very excited about next weekend.
Well, speaking of that substitution, because Albert Rusknight comes off in the sixty eighth minute, and you know, to your point, I think we need to talk about the midfield a bit, because you know, the midfield in this game for the combination of you know, we're gonna kind of go with post substitution as well. But it's Rusnak, it's Christian, it's Obed and that trio, that triangle that they built, you know for the last I don't know how many second half of this season and Obed coming into his own
over these last two playoff games. I mean, no doubt the international soccer folks are watching and looking at a bit of argust saying, oh my, but you had those combinations and then Albert comes out and JP comes in and that trio becomes very fluid as lots of other changes happen, and Callen, it just felt like, you know, that midfield group as a whole really did a fantastic job of controlling this game, as you mentioned, no matter
who was in there. But you know, I guess one of the lasting thoughts is, God, if Albert hadn't gotten that hip reaggravation, maybe something's different. But that midfield did an outstanding job specifically in this game. Well, they did an incredible job at it.
When you lose a guy like Albert Rusnak, who is your sister, who is your playmaker, Who's the guy that's going to create I mean, in the first what five minutes he had a shot on goal, and he's obviously playing all the balls in from the corner kicks and such, but he is the guy kind of controlling that offense. And so you have guys behind in Ovid Vargas and Christian Roldan who can obviously step up into that position
and do what needs to be done. I mean, Christian did it in Houston, scoring the goal as the number ten quote unquote ten. But that fluidity of when Albert Rusnek comes off, it's just a little bit different. You're basically having eight indoor sixes, so defensive midfielders first trying to attack and I guess said they're quality players, they can do it, but it's just not the same. You don't have the same swagger to the offense without an
Albert Rusnak. The passing is not as cripped. The ideas. Honestly, the ideas that alb Rusnak can like throw into his head are incredible, and then the quality of the balls that he puts in.
I mean, I'm also thinking.
About the free kick that he took that to save as well, and is a lovely freak kay point. And it's just it's the little things that aler Rusnak you may not see all the time, but he's always on your back shoulder. As as a defender, you're hating that because you always have to turn your head to find out just where he is. And he's so good on the ball and clean that if he turns, he's going to find that pass. And I think a few times we actually missed Jordan Morris on some very good runs,
especially in the first half. A few times that I remember dala Vega had one Christian roll Dan had one because he did He's so quick and if he's in between the center backs, you know he's probably gonna make that run. So I think you just missed that little bit of that swagger, that that quality that rus Neck has.
Before we took a break, I think you mentioned Pedro, Dale Leveg and Pete. I wanted to chime in on Pedro because I did feel like in that first forty five minutes where we were kind of getting going, I felt like it was may have been Pedro's best forty five of the season, which we kept talking about with Brian over and over, work in progress, and were you it's a progress, you know, you know, getting him in and involved and getting him up to speed with everything else.
And it sort of felt like we started to see that from Pedro. He started to see him getting involved more and making these runs and making these passes. He slipped the ball to Jordan that you know, end up being a shot that got deflected. But I think I think what we saw from Pedro is is I'm not trying to be all, you know for everybody else. Yes, the Sounders have lost. The season's over. I'm not trying
to make it all happy, happy, good good. But nonetheless, I think I think there is a positive take from this in the sense of I think we're starting to see what Pedro dala Vega can become over time here with the Sounders.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Tonight was his tenth start, right, we probably played thirty eight, probably fifty.
Games to fifty games.
Yeah, when you add them all together, right, So I think we did see and I would agree with you Jackson. I thought today was his the best half of soccer that he's played. And so he ends on a positive and I think his teammates come back to him and say, Okay, this guy's gonna help us and this guy can play. We saw a lot of guys evolved this year. Albert finally in the spot that he wants to play in OBD.
Holy cow, he got better every week. In my opinion, Jackson Reagan got three goals this year, one assist Georgie. I'm excited about what he's going to bring next year. So yeah, it was a gosh, it's just bittersweet, right last twenty games. I'm doing a little math here, eleven to five and four in their last twenty uh and and piecing it together. We did not think Paul Rothrock he should be added to the list of Oh that's.
Good point, No, Yamar no, Paul, yeah, yeah, And.
So we missed a couple of guys and we watched Paul Rothrock really emerge into a quality player in this league, so and versatile, and Brian Schpenzer had to plug and play a lot. I mean, we see Jordan Morris his best positions up front. He's got to end the game on the left hand side, which makes perfect sense.
You want Raoul in there. Hopefully he gets some magic.
But you had ten games i think the middle of the season that Christian roll Dan was playing right back. You had then he got pushed into the middle and that they Oh, finally they found out that middle with Ovid and Christian is going to be the way it's going to go. I mean it was Peter del Vega gonna be on the right. Was he the middle on the left?
Yeah?
He, like you said, coach Mester has done a really good job of plugging and playing and he had to do it again in the playoffs.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, it's so Georgie coming in because of injuries, and let's talk about for a second two because of injuries. But well, let's let's go back to Pedro de Vega. Go ahead, because for me, he had a Yes, he had a fine first half.
What did he create? I think there was there was that one ball to Jordan that slipped in and I don't have the minute on that, but he slips the ball into Jordan and then it was deflected out. I think that was in the fifteenth minute actually now that I haven't written down. So that was a really really big chance where you know, I think that he runs by two defenders and he also did that later in the game too. He runs a boy defenders, cuts inside,
slips the ball right through. That's that's a good chance. And I think the more Pedro develops that chemistry of Jordan, the more time he spends, the more those runs become commonplace, the more those balls become commonplace.
That's what I would say, Yellen. I just think that if it's going to be your midfielder, let's look at this way. Yeah, I mean times, did you say Georgie did that same thing? Wow in the first half?
Yeah, I mean Georgie. And that's why I want to talk about Georgie.
But I mean, that's that's what I'm saying, is that this you know, I understand that it's a it's a different game, but it's the fifty thousand dollars man versus the five million dollar man.
Yeah, you know that's that's got to be something. That's got to be something said.
And so, yes, he had a good first half and I that was fine, and he was running around and he was connecting passes and doing the things.
But I just want more. You gotta have more. And you know who gave you more.
It is Georgie. Because George Georgie is the fair different styles of man. Their styles, they're different styles. Georgie is the pace he's going to run at you one v one while you know, Beja Vega's more trying to beat you slower side by side, maybe doing some one too's But look, I Georgie's straight ahead.
But look, I I just I wanted more. And that's I think that's fair. And I think, you know, when we kind of talk about this season overall, we wanted a lot more from Pedro dale Vega overall this season, absolutely so, because what we tonight should be like the bare minimum for Pedro de la Vega. You know, at this point, had he you know, developed as he needed to,
but he got injured of course, over and over. But Georgie Manongo out of nowhere signed from Dacoma Defiance to the first team, and we're seeing things Pete and Kellen
chime in two from Georgie. This kid, Georgie Manongoho who's blind in one eye, and the confidence he has and the speed and the quickness and the ability to get behind h it's something that I don't remember the last sounder, I mean, young Jordan Morris is the is the thing that I'm reminded by of being able to, you know, make a move, run behind defenders, go direct at a guy we haven't seen that in a long time. And Georgie has that unique ability, and we saw it over and over again tonight.
Those are the kind of players that coaching staffs like the Sounders, Brian, every single one of them, they love having a kid like that because he simply wants to get better.
Right. And Paul Rothrock the same. Paul Rothrock. You never saw him.
Paul scored a lot of goals this year, right, and I think he scored seven between all categories, between all games. You never saw him hold up a check and say you got to pay me more, right, And that's just that's behind the scenes, fair.
Enough, But that's where and that's where it should be capped, of course, right.
But but I think those two guys, you know, those are two young leaders. And we've seen other guys be those young leaders, Alex Christian, Jordan Morris and now they're a little bit older.
But to see these two.
Young kids come in and light it up like they did. And you know, Georgie lost his father during the season, right, And when the funeral happened, Ryan Spitzer said go home, and he said, no, I cannot go home. I need to stay here to get better at my craft. And I know, my family needs me, but they need me more to stay here and get better, right and so that I can improve and help my family later on. So yeah, he was terrific. It's not just his speed.
Kellen said it. Well, we were watching the game. He's so darn strong, right and he yeah, And so he's somebody we can be excited about for the for next.
Year for sure.
When we were first talking about him, I remember was the Open Cup game and I think it was actually my first call in.
The Open Cup game.
But the words that we used, the word that we use was raw. He is a raw talent, right, He's he had a lot of pace, he has some you know, good moments, but the final product was never there. You saw Georgie mature that some of the some of the first touches he had today we're not just going after it, but you know, bringing a ball down, shielding the ball from the defender. So he can't you know, step in, like I said, using his strength, using his talent. He
became that raw talent and really honed it. Like you said, we worked really hard and he's such a good guy doing so right, but he works really hard to hone that talent and I think he is someone to be excited about as he continues to hone this this talent that he has especially just not even just go one on one, but the quality of a game that he has.
There was a lot of individual moments and a lot of individual players. I think, you know, we're talking about, you know, good things, and and I think it's a funny game because I think the Sounders for a lot of this game outplayed the Alley Galaxy. And that's the reason tonally, why this conversation right now is talking about these positive things. And it's so funny that the Sounders season is over and there's probably you know, I probably
getting messages of like, you know, be more negative. Our season's over. You know, you got to be more critical. We'll get there, and I think I think we do, and we should because at the end of the day, there are lots of positive things to draw from it. But the season is over and it was a big mistake from Alex rolled On and the mistake is costly because Joevilich scores and it's one nothing in the eighty fifth minute, and the LA Galaxy have ended the Sounder
season with a one nothing win. They'll be hosting MLS Cup next week, not Seattle. So we've talked about the positives from this game. We got to dive into not only the negatives from this game, but I think the negatives of the season, because yeah, there was a rough start and we saw things we liked, we saw things we didn't like. Let's do a kind of a little bit of a breakdown of what we saw. This is great,
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lot to go over. We'll continue following the Sounders season ending Western Conference Final one, Nothing Lost to the Galaxy more next on the Sounders FC radio stream channel on iHeartRadio.
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Welcome back to the postgame show. Sounders season is over. A one to nothing lost to the LA Galaxy on the Road. LA is hosting MLS Cup against New York and the Sounders off season has begun, and thank you Sounder fans for an incredible season. Obviously, you are at the center of our club and we appreciate all of your support. We can't wait to see what next season holds. This team will continue to be relentless into the off season,
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waiting for you. I think we transition this conversation now into probably the place that a bunch of fans want to take it to, and that is the negative, and that is the reality of the situation is that the Sounders offensively this season, and Craig Wible, our general managers, said it to US media yesterday. This offense is not nearly where we wanted it to be in twenty twenty five. And the way to fix that, of course, is by additions singular plural. We don't know, but it will take
fixing the offense for sure. So I think we start. I don't even know if there's a question here, but I think the reality of the situation is that the Sounders were just shut out by a team that gave up fifty goals in the season. Kellen and the offense in this game, the offense throughout the season is not
what we wanted it. I guess we're all start is do you feel like the offensive issues that we saw today and throughout twenty twenty four were more personnel related or more issues with what the team was trying to do in each given moment game whatever.
Well, the personnel is there. They can score goals.
They've created a lot of goals, and they get themselves in front of things. I mean, Jordan Morris, you know, ten plus goals in all competitions with Rus Knack with what seven to nineteen assists. Yep, it's incredible so that they have the ability to score goals. But yes they're missing. It can't just be one or two guys anymore. It used to be in the league when I when I was playing that you could have two attackers, you can
have a defender and that would run your team. I mean, look at the Toronto's right, the Gavnco out the door and then Bradley like, those were the big guys. Yeah, they had some contributions from others, but those were the guys that were getting them goals, they were giving them things. You have those guys now and it's just not the same.
You have too many.
The talent around the league is too good defensively offensively doesn't really matter, and the tactics have changed. The game is so fast, and it's just you need to have more than just the one or two guys. And we didn't have that. It was Paul Rothbrock to kind of create something and make them look the other way so Jordan can have more time and root space. That so
alv Rusnak had another option to have. But I think they just need more out of either the players they have or a new signing that is just it's electric. I think you so aw Georgie. He was so successful because he had moments where he can get behind the defense one v one whatever it mean, down the line, but there was nothing in the box. The runs weren't the correct ones, and if you had that on both sides,
you know what's happening. Look at the way that Paystill is there, the way that Peck is there, the way.
That Jovilich is there.
They have the ability to go to them and once they get the ball, there are runs in the box because they know they're going one v one and it's going to be dangerous. So I think we just need to find something like that to give some electricity to this offense.
Yeah, I would. I think we're missing one player. When you think about the fact that we gave up thirty five goals. We needed somebody else to either get more goals or get more assists.
We relied on Jordan.
He got the most goals in the regular season of any Sounder with thirteen, and then Albert had a terrific season. But we needed more productivity for more guys. When you go down the stat sheet and you look at how many players were above five goals, it's not that many, right, And we expected Ruy Diaz to have another great season as well, and he was. He spent a lot of time on the bench, so we did not expect Pedro de Levega to be injured as often as he was,
and we expected him to be that one guy. So sometimes, you know, players emerged. Paul Rothrock emerged, right, Georgie emerged. If Georgie has an entire season as a starter, then I think he might be a guy who accumulates a lot more assists and maybe even gets a couple of goals just by his sheer hustle and putting himself in the right spot.
So it's not how the season.
You know, we were on that plane on the flight back from LAFC and it was awesome. That plane ride on the way home is going to be dead silent. Having said that, this is a club that was deep at the beginning, of the year and then they pulled themselves out and they got better and better and they but they faced a team today. Taylor Twelman said it
on his broadcast. Give LA credit because they never gave up and they kept fighting and we made one mistake that costas dearly right and good finish from a quality player.
So I think we're missing one player.
But I think we thought that Peter de Levego would have been that guy, and roll Ruy Diaz would have been that one guy.
And I think we're missing more than one.
When I'm thinking about building a team, it's not yes, you think it's not the eleven.
I want fifteen, I want eighteen. I want guys off the bench.
That was one of the problems that we've had is that we don't have anyone on the bench that is going to come in and electrify this offense. Well, Georgie did that, but but that was one Yeah, that was one guy.
Yeah, And how can you how can.
You find the quite look at the substitutions that LA makes either LA team right, Marcy Delgado created and pushed things forward. You had Diego Fagundez, who's scored over fifty goals in this in this league.
Grugman came in.
He's he's a number six, but he allowed those other guys to push forward.
Uh, we didn't have Missovski scored two.
Yeah, that's that's a rough SiZ scored due to five goals.
You know, it's just not it's just.
Eight, but it's just how many of those penalties.
It's just not enough off the bench to be electrifying. You need to find You can't always just find the star player. We do need star players, don't get me wrong, but you have to find the guy that's going to go get you five goals, five assists every every season, exactly eight goals, eight assists every season.
That needs to happen.
I think gets five or six.
Ye Jackson.
Jackson got what three two?
And Jackson improved so much middle of the season. But I think I fully agree with Callen. I think, you know, Paul Rothrock feels like a guy that could could get you somewhat numbers, but he doesn't feel I don't know if Paul Rothrock is your full time starting winger next year. So there's there's one. And then you know, at some point we should probably if we have time, talk about Rods We don't know what the future holds. But if that's it for Allias, than time, there's his career in
Rave Green. But you need a roller replacement, and not only a Roul replacement, but a Roll plus replay Rawul used to be replacement. You need a really good forward who you can slide in there and have confidence that I mean Roll Redia is. This is not going to be. This is going to sound like I'm hating on him, and I'm not, But the reality of the situation is that this season, I don't think he had a goal that was a non penalty inside of twenty five yards.
He had galazzos this year, and he had pks this year, but his movement and what he did inside the box this year, it wasn't good enough and not even close. We needed miles more out of roll Rediaz this year. For I mean, you referenced the finances, so I'm just gonna reference again for what roll Rediaz is making this year. We needed a lot more from Roller Rediez this year and we just didn't get it.
So we need a improved, much improved Roll Rediaz added to this roster. So I'm I'm right with you, Kellen.
This I think Craig Wible when he talks about you needing to make an addition, additions to this team to fix the offense, I agree. I think it is two pieces in the next four months because also the Club World Cup is coming next summer. If this team wants to compete in the Club World Cup next summer, we need to improve this offense. And I think it's gonna.
Take multiple pieces. It is look, Robber, really Diaz, and we can just start with it now. Is just Look, he's one of the best finishers I've ever played with.
He is a quality human being. He is a guy that will support him.
He'll yell at you on the field, he'll call your names, and then afterwards he'll give you a hug. He's like he's he's a competitor and I love that about him. And he's obviously done so much for the Seattle Sounders. I remember watching games because I wasn't here yet and I was watching obviously supporting the Sounders because it is my hometown and because it is a club that I
will always have in my heart. But watching him compete and win and score and and bring this team in to up into Cloud Night, I mean, we are absolutely when he came, when Nico came, obviously Dempsey and and even I'll even give Brad Brad Evans a call, the call there too, but look, these guys just bring this level so much higher and they bring the quality, they bring the I just the leadership. I hope he's not
done in his career at all. Obviously I would love for him to stay if he's going to continue to play and play well, but if he does have to move on, and then you know, all the best, Raul, and you know, thanks for thanks for the times that we had together.
Well, he certainly created some trophies for this club, no question at all. And you're right the energy that he would bring. A couple of years ago, I remember watching training at Lumenfield and he was scoring goals and he was strutting around like a rooster and it just because he was coming off injury and everyone it lifted everyone up as well.
And some of the goals he scored through his career here.
And I like the names that you mentioned, Dempsey, uh And and uh Ladero as well. We've just had some great quot op Femmy Martin's right was just such a quality player, so we need somebody of that charisma on the field and that cockiness on the slag or the swagger. Yeah yeah, on the field. That can help lift everybody up in.
The tough round, the toughness, the mental toughness.
It's also can you make something out of nothing? That's something that Rel Rudiaz did a lot of us. True, He's like he's got three guys around him. All of a sudden, he's you know, some braaring one guy, making the other and putting it in the back of the net, and how did that happen?
Exactly?
But those are the moments you need, and you don't see that at the on the field right now. You're not making You're not making two guys miss and and and finding the back of the net.
That's just not happening and so interesting.
I think that's the that we don't have that set of and I do say star power for that.
I think it is.
But it's a little bit of swagger, a little bit of confidence of I can do these really amazing things and it may not be every game, but you're gonna get three or four of those a year.
We had a guy mar Our Resolz his first game on the fifty yard line, loses the ball the Argentinian and he gets tackled from behind, no call. He gets up and he hammers somebody, and it's like Nicol Ladero turning off the music in the locker room before the first game he played We're not we're not gonna listen to music.
We're gonna talk to each other about how we're gonna win. And Marrow was one of those guys.
And you know, Schmeetz has said often we need to be a little nastier as a team, a little harder too nice sometimes, So we could use somebody who's who's gonna turn the music off. Somebody's gonna get stuck in on tackles.
So we're kind of morphing this conversation into the off season ahead. I want to take a break and I want to continue that. I will quickly say for all, really, Diaz, I was comments society, you know about this year what Raoul rod Rudiez has given to this club, and he's
the all time leading goalscorer for our team. He is a legend on and I would also say off the field, because the work that he does to put an arm around academy kids and and and young young people in the organization and be tight with them and make sure that they're coming up. I think there's a kid, I hope I have the name right, Danny Roeblaze. Yeah, former with Defiance and ended up, you know, leaving to get some more time. And I believe he did come back.
And I played at them pick up on Wednesday or Tuesday. So what I heard from somebody within the organization is that when he came back, Raoul saw him in the halls at Long Acres, and I mean, this is Danny Roeblace, the guy that I don't think he ever touched the first team played with the coma Defiance a lot, and Raul sees him in the hallway, comes up and gives him a massive hog and is just embracing with Danny Roeblaze and is just as tight like they never spent
a day apart. And it's it's that that role Redez has brought the leadership with with the young and bringing up kids from the academy who were playing with the Fiance who he sees around, whether it was Starfire now Long Acres, you know. Role. What he's done on the field is phenomenal and the moments. I mean the game winner at Portland this year, I'm not yeah, that was a game winner start of the second half where he hits it from twenty five out and you know, this
epic moment. He's had epic moments one after another, forty five yards in Philadelphia this year, Penank is over and over obviously MLS Cup twenty nineteen. I could go on, right, He's delivered these epic moments and he will always be remembered for these epic moments. But what a lot of fans don't see is what he means to people coming up through the organization, like a Danny Roblaze and like so many others, Danny Leva too. In Coullen, I'm sure
you saw it. But the work he's done, you know, within the halls and being able to be a friend to everybody and a leader to everybody, it's something that this club will absolutely miss.
Oh yeah, you see it firsthand in the locker rooms. Look, and it's not it's not an everyday thing. Like you're you're an athlete, right, you have a motion, you have you know times when you're not feeling great. You got times when you're feeling amazing. But when it came to the academy, it came to the kids, Raoul just turned it off like he's okay, he's a human being now. And that was pretty great about him. Like I said, this guy is a role model. He's the league and
goal scorer for the Seattle Sounders. All these kids in the academy system know who he is. If he walks through that through that door, they know that he is the best player to one of the best players to play for the Seattle Sounders, and that's.
Their role model. They're trying to be like Raoul.
And so he knows that when he when he gets in those scenarios that it's not it's no longer about being a professional soccer players, no longer about you know how my day is now, how my day is going to be if I'm playing, not playing bench, injured, whatever it may be. He turns into a human being. That's what I do love about his leadership.
Just tremendous person, tremendous player. If this is it for all, and we're not saying it is, but if this is it for all, and Ray Green, thank you Roll for everything. And listen, man, we're gonna miss you. If that's it, but we'll see what the future hole. As for what the future holds over these next few months, let's continue talking about that. I think we've talked about it continuously.
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Welcome back to the Postgame Show, a season ending postgame show as your Seattle Sounders year has come to an end. It's a one nothing loss in the Western Conference Final at the LA Galaxy, who will now be hosting MLS Cup and for Seattle. As we talked about the season ends and now the questions begin over what happens leading into twenty twenty five. I think we've kind of understood that they need to add some on the offensive end. I think Craig Wible understands need to add on the
offensive end. McCallen and I both agree it needs to be multiple people on the offensive end to get this team better offensive numbers. But I think that there are then interesting questions for you know, what does this roster look like over the next twelve months, Because, oh, Beed Vargas' value is going to continue to skyrocket. He is more you know, opportunities with the Mexican national team. He's
looked so so good. But Pete, as we look at that roster then in the break, we were kind of going up and down, and there are some question marks over whether certain people are here, you know, four months from now or not.
Well, there's always going to be attrition, right and and players might get better opportunities somewhere else it's kind of the college deal of the transfer portal. Right, they might be able to go somewhere else, get a better contract, get or more playing time. We're not in on any of those conversations, right, So you don't know what you know, Paul Rothrock Georgie. Those guys are on pretty small contracts, right, and so I'm sure they're going to come in and say, hey,
I would like to get paid more. There's a there's a limit to what the team is going to pay for certain players. Obed Vargas, I don't know what kel and I have no clue what his value is, right, is it five million bucks? I mean when when DeAndre Yedlin went to the EPL for five million, that was a coup. And I know Adrian Hannah was saying, we need one of those a year, right, that can fund the academy, that can fund you know, one or two of our players, three or four of our players, depending
you know, on whether it's a DP or a TAM guy. So, but we haven't had one like that since. But ob Vargas, man, he just got better and better and and I can see now why Mexico the first team, the you know, national team wanted him.
Right, and so we'll seattle to be able to keep him. That's the question, because he's so young.
Well, do we want to keep him if he offers eight million bucks?
Yeah?
And if yeah, I mean that's a good point.
You know, there's some of these clubs in Europe they sell a player and they get a new stadium right for their for their second or third team. So it's going to be interesting to see what the movement is.
And you're right, Craig Wifel.
You know, he's a great guy, and he's sitting in the back of the plane and I look at the spreadsheets and I got to look at him and go, how you doing, buddy, And he's like, I'm trying to figure it out.
Right.
He knows he's got to make changes, and he knows that they have tough They have tough conversations starting Monday.
Right, A tough conversation started, you know, a month ago. But yeah, look, I I actually loved this part of the year for me is when things were done, it was so you don't want it to end like it did. But when things are done, you look at this locker room and you're going, Okay, this locker room is never going to be the same again. Yeah, there's we talked about the turnover with the e autrition. It's there's never have that group again.
Never.
Yeah, in that locker room, there is never a time when it's just this say the same guys. Yeah, there's always an add on. There's always someone that leaves. There's it's just it's the way that this world.
You said you like that.
I like it because you sit there and you think, Okay, no matter what, if we got in a fight twenty you know, twenty days ago, two months ago, beginning of the year, three years ago, that moment right there.
Hey man, it's been great. Yeah, here's you.
Know, And for me it was always I want to share a drink with that person and I go around the room and we chat, We say hello, we say goodbye. If it is hey, I hope if you do leave like thank you, that this moment is like that graduation moment of like, okay, no matter what, we're again, we're human beings. Now this is no longer. Yes, it's our job, but we're human beings. We get our time off, enjoy time with your family. It was really great paying with you.
If I don't see you again, you know all the best. Yeah, I do like that part because you have to become a human again. And now everyone knows that it's horrible losing these games. Yeah, it's horrible, but you know at that moment, it's not about the game anymore. Yeah, that's your teammate, that's like your comrade. You were blood, sweat and tears with that person across the across the hall next to you, two guys down. You guys fought together for over ten and a half months.
Yeah.
Yeah, And Christian said this was the most togethered team he's ever been on. Right, And it's never going it's always going to change.
I mean I just I had a call with the ten year anniversary of the New England team that went to the final in twenty four and we all text each other afterwards of like, hey, man, I hope you're doing well. I just got reminiscent of the times we had. We had fifteen guys at the bar on Sundays, win, lose, draw, and you just you get to hang out and you get to you know, I met wives, girlfriends, kids. It's that's that was the stuff that sticks with you in the long run, and when I do stop when I
did stop playing. Now that I've gone through it for about a year now, it's that's the stuff you remember.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure Brian Schpetzer's trying to console and also thank a lot of players for their contributions and their commitment to the club and representing the club as well as they have.
You know, it was set on the broadcast. Seattle has more.
Points than any other team in MLS in two thousand and nine, and that is the standard and the expectation. But that's very darn impressive, right, two thousand and nine is a long time ago. Now, it's fifteen years ago, sixteen years ago. So that's something that the club should be proud of. And yeah, I'm sure he has taking a moment.
I'd love to.
And that's hard for Brian too. You know, you say he's a person. He that guy really cares about his players. He's a steward of the club right now. And so if that is the end for Raoul and you have to go from Okay, we got to get a goal, tie it up, we got to get a goal, And all of a sudden, you walk in the locker room and you go, oh, now, I've got to give now. I got to make sure I get my kudos and console some guys. I mean, I'll bet you. And Alex
Oldon's a tough kid. It wouldn't surprise me if he was in tears in the locker room because because what you said about the Christian said it was the tightest group.
He doesn't want to let anybody down. He's had a very good year and to give that.
One so reliable, he's usually the guy that's the mister reliable.
It was him, I know.
And look, it's it's tough and we go down this roster of guys, you know we're gonna it sounds like and it's a speculation obviously so, but it sounds like big players are going to be gone.
And it needs to happen. And that happens all the time.
It happens all the time. But it needs to happen to turn over into the new regime.
I mean, because we are in the post Ladero era and now we may be in the post Ladero and Ruy diaz Ea and me. There's always exactly it has to be.
It's continuous. This league is growing, this game is growing. So what's the speed of it is not.
Is Jesus you see these guys, it's it's it's it's quick, it's passing, it's a recy huge doing touches that I was like, where'd the ball go? You know, audition. It's just those those moments. The quality of players that are playing in this league. Now you have to stay on top of it.
And what's the new era gonna look like? Staying on top of it? Playing with the Galaxy, playing with l A f C. Not Miami.
Not going one in four against l A f C. You're going three and two against l A f C. And you know, right, so is it the money? Is it the personnel? What's what's stopping Sounders from keeping up with the l A f C s with the Miamis with the LA Galaxies?
Now, that is the golden question.
You know, I would say in the last two games were with them, right, of course they they got the better of us today, of course, and we got the better of l A last week.
So I will said, they have we have to work harder to get there. Yeah, I would agree, I would.
Agree, which I don't mind.
Yeah, you know, but like we weren't favorites in any of the playoff games.
No, No Houston. But you know, when you're recruiting, some of the game one.
Against Houston game, so we had a bunch of guys missing.
So yeah, when you're recruiting around the world, l A is a much more desirable place New York Miami.
Right, of course, how do they make it? Yeah, right, like they how do they make it? How do they make it the way it's it's coming in?
How do we get to the next era of Sounders soccer, the new La Darro Ruis Diez And how do we stay right there in the top three with your LA's and you know, Miami's. What does the next era of Sounder's soccer look like? And how do we how do we belong in that next era. It's a it's a tremendous question because you look at the roster and you know, you just look at who signed through next year. Fries signed through next year, and we'll see what beyond that.
But we know we have Andrew Thomas to long contract. You got Yamar signed the next year, Jackson now signed next year, he signed a big deal. You have Alex, you have new who you have obed, and obviously his question is is a big question for the future. You have Christian, you have a Pedro sign. You have Paul Rothrock and we'll see if he gets on a new deal. You have Albert whose contract is now up. He was on an option. They picked up his option for twenty twenty four, so now you can you do you sign
Albert Rusnak to a designated player contract. You have moreri ass signed. There's the there's an eleven that I just spelled out. If you can sign and make that eleven work. You have Jial Paula I believe signed for next year. Josh Attencio. You have options to build this eleven out. But it's it's lots of questions about as Callen you said it, I think perfectly in the last segment you find the fifteen. It's not about the eleven. It's the fifteen.
It is Look, and you just said that lineup and that is our essentially our starting lineup right now, right, that didn't score, so like, how is this going to? And then for me, the question mark for that group was OBD. So let's say Obid stays great for us? Right, you want him to stay obviously, you want him to do well and go and be this massive star but say he gets sold, Yeah, who's next, Well.
Probably JP, just for next year. You'd think it's JP.
When when JP's up there in age, I hate to say it, Christian's getting up there in age and can't play every game as much. Every game I know, I know, So who's then your next up?
This? This game?
You can't play every is so hard. My body is done now because I played once. I played every game like it is so hard to do, especially with the travel, the adding of games. The League's Cup is now a thing, the KUNKCAF Club World Cup or the yeah, the FIFA Club World Cup. You've got Open Cup, you've got playoffs, You've got just day to day trainings where something's going to happen, injuries. So who's your backup for Ovid? Yeah, you know was there, but he didn't do all that
much this year. He was meant to be the guy and Ovid said, no, I got it. So there's that happened. If Christian was if the everything was healthy, I don't think Christian would have moved into the middle. You're right, and so you need wingers, you need you need you know what, I got to need someone to compete with Jordan. So he he thinks that, Okay, there's someone on my
back when he has that chip on his shoulder. That's when he scored goals when he wanted to be the forward and they wouldn't let him.
They kept playing him wide.
When when he played up front.
I remember it was Kansas City two years ago or last year he was either way. He scored four goals from all lao chwo. But that moment was Okay, this is my time. I have to prove that I'm the number nine and he needs that push. So get me a number nine who's going to push.
Jordan Morris agreed.
Agreed.
Here's an interesting one. Obed stays.
We have a kid who's on the Mexican national team and he's our starting center midfielder. Does he attract more national team players from around the world because Obed's here.
I think they chat about it. There's definitely chats about those in those camps and in those games. But with his youth, his stature with the national team.
Isn't there yet. He's not going like he just come on, and I'm not sure.
I'm not sure that savvy as a businessman either, like, hey, we can make a lot of stuff happen over here, like come on, you come jump on board.
But it does say something for the Sounders that is a is a little bit of money in the bank. You've got the you know, starting midfielder for Mexico, which he's not at this So what's.
Your price for him? What's what's your price?
Well, because he's free, we got him for free, so anything is give us a dollar.
We're earning money. I think I think ate and I think it's my floor.
Yeah, uh I ten.
I would love to get ten.
Yeah, I think Adrian.
Adrian's a poker player, right, so I think he's not going to well, he's not gonna He sold DeAndre edlind for five million. Yeah, how many years ago? Six seven, eight years ago? He's inflation alone.
You know what I can Well, I'm not gonna say who told this to me. Somebody told me, and I don't think it was on the air, so I'm not gonna say who it was said three three years ago. This is long time before Obed Vargas and before it was it was before the twenty twenty two seasons, so before he kind of broke out, right, he said, Ovid Vargas is going to be the first player organization sells for more than ten million dollars, and right now I believe it. Yeah, I mean I hope.
So, I don't know what teams said that.
Come on, you're not gonna do that. Give me the first letter. You know what, it's already it's after ten pm and Mitchell is probably going to stab a knife through my neck for any We've.
Got one more question, so answer it.
Answer it how you like it. It's it's almost like you're just in mynd Do you want to ask the question?
Yeah?
Was this coach and Jackson? Was this a successful season for the Sealle Sounders?
For me, it was because of where we started and because we didn't have some of the pieces that the top teams had, so we relied on that unity that Christian said to you was the tightest group. They found ways to win. They got better as the season went on. They fell short, for sure, and no one is going to be more disappointed than the players and their head coach. So but having said that, I'm very proud of what
this team did. The last two years have been tough, right because you've had to make changes, You've had to get Nicol Ladero off the roster right, and he played in a semi final tonight as our final tonight of the Eastern Conference, right, and then Ruy Diaz he had to make a tough change with that one. So the team had to weather as much controversy as they have in the last five, six, seven, eight, ten years, right or maybe the history in their MLS run.
And so I think it was a success.
I think they got better as the season went on, and they competed right down to the very end and stake against quality opponent.
So I would I would agree on I won't repeat all your points, but I think all your points are sound. I would say it's a successful Skiz season by the skin of our teeth, because if we had lost to LAFC, no, absolutely not a successful season. But beating LAFC and getting that to one win, and maybe it was because it's recency bias and we were there and you know, just the everything involved with that win to get you know,
the it wasn't the full monkey off the back. They still knocked us out of two other tournaments this year, but to end their season and to beat them in their house and to you know, for everything that was against them the previous thirteen months just based on that win. We lost to a team that was the first team in MLS history to have four ten plus goal scorers. Yeah uh, and they.
Are run by the skin of their team one by just one single mistake. Defensively, you talked about the skin of the teeth that we won. I will also say.
We were the best defensive team in MLS. We led the league in goals against with thirty five. We had, you know, I think great club moments we saw developing, Paul Rothrock's development, Georgie Mnungu's development, great moments like the Portland win away back in May. And there's been a number of these these big games over the course of the year that I think we can point to and
go that was really really fun. There's obviously negative moments, many negative moments, but the lasting taste in my mouth it probably won't be tonight. It'll it'll be tonight for the next week, but then as the next few months go by, it'll be the win at LAFC, ending their season and denying LAFC a cup in their house, you know, because they would have been hosting the LA Galaxy tonight had it been LAFC going through so by the skin of our teeth, Kellen, I think it was a successful season,
but it's like it's that close. For me, it's a no go ahead. It's not a successful season.
Success is silverware and we or yeah, semi close, and I use those words correctly, semi close. We got out played by LAFC in the Open Cup, we got out played ALIFC in the League's Cup. We got out played most of the season. We didn't win the Cascadia Cup. Zero silverware. Yes there was a good story, Yes we
said that. A terrible start to the season and then obviously a very good long run and some developing players and some guys that you would never think of that you know, you'd think as the last guy off the bench is now starting, you know, the Georgie's, the Paul Rothrocks.
It's just but it was not exces.
We also had probably I think, if you want to average it out, and I have to milk at the numbers for about this, but the lowest attendance in Seattle history. So you want to talk about a successful season when nothing came of.
It, Well, that's sports.
That's that's why we show up every single year, right and each season is its own book, its own has its own plots and subplots, and so you look at it and you say, okay, we have had our moments here of great silverware with teams that are rolling right, and then we and then this was a season where we had to deal with a lot of injuries, we had to deal with a lot of coming from behind. And so yeah, I mean I get And that's spoken like a player who has just finished right. And and
so that's how the players. I bet the players will have that viewpoint a lot.
Of them, well, players, fans, coaches, I mean, you know, because because this and yes it's a war, we have a warped reality of what this league is because Sattle has been so good so many times. They've won a lot of trophies for just coming in in two thousand and nine.
So look, it's a warped reality. But maybe it is.
Yes, a player's perspective of we just the success of a season and having a decent season or having good stories in a season or two different things.
But if you're asking if it's successful, it's a no for me.
Yeah you know it's and I'll bet you the coaches are going to say the same and the players are going to say this.
Absolutely when you go into that, when you go into the preseason the first day, first week, it's like, look, it's a long season everything, but there is one goal here. There's only one goal. It is not to Yes, you want to be good human beings. You want to play well. You want to you know, have a you want to have a tight nick. You want to better yourself, everyone to have the right amount of money and all the
things right. And you want some swan song story of a young player who's playing well, or someone on the bench like all of a sudden becomes a starter, is having a great season. You want to break out season for someone. But every single time you walk into that room that first day, your only goal is silverware.
Yeah.
I think it's I think it's a really good, good take, and I think that a lot of fans, a lot of fans will agree with you on that, because this is this season is left unfinished because we lost on one simple mistake and we don't get to host Tim Molls Cup, and it's it's no, it's no hardware. I think it's it's a good take that I think a lot of people are going to have and I think people will have your take, Pete. I think people will have my take, and I think that a lot of
people will have Callen's take. And the reality of the situation is that's that's what makes up this fan base, and it's such a diverse and you know, well educated and thought out fan base. And I think our fans are just tremendous because they are so knowledgeable about the game and this team and the coverage of this team is so good for fans to know exactly what's going on. And you know, as we wrap up tonight's broadcast, I think, I think it is finally time to end tonight. Do
you guys have any final thoughts? Before we got it?
Just remind us I've coached three teams and won national championships.
Right.
We had a team that went to the Final four and the Hall of Fame committee said, well, should they go on to the Hall of Fame? And I said no, right, because the goal is to win the Cup. So I get where you're coming from. A year or two removed, you kind of look at the big picture and you look at the all the scenarios and you say, okay, So for me, I'm still I thought it was a
very good year, but it's not the standard. I mean again, branch, that's your Danny Jackson said a years ago as serial winner, right, he was as a player, he won a ton in youth, he won a ton of the pros I mean championships, right, and he's won his share of championships here, more than most. But he'll he'll be the one to say, gosh, we could have done better. I mean, they were that close.
His final thoughts would be, you know, speaking to the fans. The players are going to obviously say the other good byes, but think about this season and how the turnovers were. There were some great stories, there were some breakout season players. There are going to be turnovers and so remember those moments with these players, with this team. There's going to be a turnover for next year, and there's a lot
of positive coming through. There's going to be a lot of youth, youth that already showing their sparks that are going to obviously mature. There's going to be new players at it. There are going to be some heartbreaking in my everyone has it, there's going to be heartbreaking lead guys that leave, and it's going to hurt, but you
know this. This club is one that wants and will always strive to be the best and to win and to have silverware, and that means they're going to to to purchase and or go grab some really good player. So I'm really excited. Let's turn the chapter, let's start the new book. If you want, next year is going.
To be fun.
Next year is going to be fun, and at least for our club broadcasts that will do it. We'll of course have sounders weekly Wednesday, seven pm ninety three point three KJFM. We're gonna have a roundtable myself are Lillianwall, Nico Moreno, andrews Hurst. We're going to talk about this game in the whole season, but for club broadcasts that will do it. I want to thank everybody involved throughout this entire season, Mitchell, Bli, Anders Hurst, Christopher Kid, who've
all run games for us from the board side. We want to thank all of them for their great work. Mitchell, thank you so much for staying late tonight and what was supposed to be a thirty minute post game that has suddenly become an hour long post game, if not longer. I want to thank everybody from the technical side, of course, Terry Ryan is our great engineer and does a great job our broadcast producing side Ryan currnc Heer, who does a fantastic job. Keiley Dunning who's on site in La tonight.
Also of course are fantastic play by play voice Danny Jackson, who had has had another tremendous, tremendous season. All of his color analysts throughout the years, uh and throughout this year, Brad Evans, Steve Zachwani. And that is included with people that I've worked alongside here. You know, Pete Fewing obviously has been somebody who's been on these broadcasts forever and
just outstanding. So thank you again for a wonderful season from Marcus Hannaman of course, and and Lamar Nagel, James Riley. It's been an expansive crew that you know, just one by one has stepped up.
But callan Row.
You joined us man for Open Cup, UH, and I wanted to say it was like Phoenix Rising, I want to say, or maybe it was, And and you know, I didn't know how how seamlessly you were gonna fit in. I'm gonna you're fresh off of playing like you know, how guarded are you going to be am, I gonna be able to have this fun camaraderie with you and you know since that you know, first segment of that first broadcast. Dude, seriously, thank you for being just a
freaking all star here with with our crew. You've just slid in and it feels like you've been with us for a damn near decade. Outstanding here, man. You have an amazing future ahead of you in this business in talking about the game. You're really freaking good at it. So thank you for joining our team and welcome. Thank you.
Yeah, talking is never my problem. It's usually the shutting up part that he is. Yeah, so I've always had that problem both yeah, you give you yeah, I know you guys, give me a microphone and let me go out it.
It's like, oh geez, okay, just let them go. And finally, thank you. And my name is Jackson Feltz, and I want to thank all of you the fans, because you're the ones who keep listening to us and keep us on and keep saying tuned and as I mentioned, you're also knowledgeable and stay tight with the club. And it's been enjoy to be bringing these postgames shows to you every single game for the twenty twenty four season. So we all from the Sounders want to thank you and
we will see you in twenty twenty five. That will do it for our broadcast tonight. That will do it for our final postgame show of the twenty twenty four season. Everybody, have a wonderful and safe holiday season. Enjoy your time with family, friends and everything else. Be staying tuned to everything going on the Sounders. It's gonna be a busy offseason. We'll keep you in touch here on KJR. So thank
you all again for listening. Thank you all to everybody who is part of the Sounder broadcast in twenty twenty four. Sadly it does not end with an MLS Cup. It ends in the West Final with a loss of the Galaxy. All good things must come to an end, and the good thing of the twenty twenty four season has come to an end tonight. Thank you all for listening. We'll talk to you soon.
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