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Episode 197

Jun 07, 202435 minSeason 7Ep. 44
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On this week's episode, co-hosts Brad Evans and Steve Zakuani preview what's sure to be a tough road test against a Peter Vermes-side looking to turn their own slow start around. Zak and Brad discuss the history and rivalry between the two squads, then are joined by former Sounder and current broadcaster, Kelyn Rowe, to give his thoughts on the season so far. 

Sounders visit Sporting Kansas City on June 8th, kickoff at 5:30pm on Apple TV -- MLS Season Pass, and 950 KJR AM / 1360 El Rey for the local calls. 

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Listen to this. It's like the morning of my weekend. He's Brad Evans. And Steve. Steve. Who is it Brad Evans? It's not again. Happy days here again. Burning with a private Steve Zucka-Wonnie. Evan, what the fuck? He's an attacking Brad Evans. He's so weird. The party has started. Hey, what's up everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Sounders FC Pod-Cast presented by Toyota. And the Sounders back in action this weekend.

Of the finally getting a little break after that crazy, crazy month of May. The Sounders had the last weekend off. That was due to the Columbus crew playing, I think, in the Champions Cup. And then the Sounders got the buy-week because of that, they were supposed to play each other. But it's back to action this weekend. And to a, I would call a rival. I think you can call these two teams rivals. It's built over the years. Sporting Kansas City against the Sounders.

And it's a sporting team who for the second year of running have not got off to a very good start at all. You know, you think about the manager who's there. How long he's been there. The power he has at the club to kind of make all the decisions and build a squad he wants. Some of the players he has, you know, Politos there. Obviously, Johnny Russell. And it's, and I've been down there seeing the facilities. I mean, everything there is built for it to be a winning club.

And they did kind of redeem their yet. It was the end of last year. They got well, but it's been another really slow start. Also for the Sounders who got off to a kind of slow start to, let's be honest. But they had a really good month of May, right? Look at the results in May. There was the win at Portland. There was the two open cup victories. There was the win. Really big one. Oh, yes. Lewis, of course. And then still a couple disappointing results.

You know, the last minute draw to Vancouver to Salt Lake. You know, that's four points extra that would make a massive difference at this point. But I think in general, the sound is do seem to be trending up. And scoring Kansas City on. But that's exactly why Brad, I want you to tell us why it still is. It still is a super dangerous game, right? Because I'm saying that they're not in good form. But this is sporting Kansas City. Yeah, it's a sporting Kansas City team that's struggling.

But the past two games, Peter has benched, shallowy, Russell, Polito in favor of maybe sending a message on the last week of saying if you're not going to do it. And now they have Kyrie Shelton playing as right back in some games. So it's a team that's trying any and everything to get a result. It's just not working for him. And you saw it in the last game last week where they did bring Russell, Polito and shallowy off the bench.

Russell gets a goal, but at that point, it's too late in Minnesota. Minnesota is often flying in that game. So, I mean, we all know that Kansas City has been kind of a bugaboo for the sounders for years, you know, over a decade. It's kind of been that rivalry that no one's labeled as a rivalry because they're not really close to us. But we've always had good matchups with them and they've always been a difficult team for the sounders.

And they came in and broke the sounders streak, you know, a couple years ago, right? When the sounders were off and running with 11 wins on the season or something like that. And Kansas City hadn't won at that time either. So it's almost like this Kansas City team is in the same position. But is this the breaking point for Peter Vermeys? You talked about the power that he has and the stranglehold. I've witnessed it. You know, and he does have all the power in the world.

So he's got to be pulling his teeth out. We know Benny Philhovers, the second team coach there. And I think it's trickling down to that team as well from what I've heard is like everyone is on edge at that club. And so it's an opportunity for the sounders though. The sounders are going to be just about full strength going into this one, I think. Even so, I think the guys that might be plugged in are going to be game changers for the sounders this weekend.

And maybe it'll send a message to the sounders crew. But getting a result on the road here for the sounders will be massive going into the... We talked about the last podcast. That month of June is going to be vital for the sounders to pick up results. So yeah, I think it's a Kansas City team that the crowd will still be there for Kansas City. That's not an issue. It's not a big enough stadium where you're not going to sell it out. It'll be a rock and crowd. It's going to be hot.

But it's not unfamiliar territory. Similar to going in St. Louis and getting a result. It's a very similar team and how they're playing and how they play. And just an opportunity. But we talked about the last podcast was the sounders go to Kansas City. The sounders were struggling in 2016. That's the game that God Ziggy fired. Could this be the one where the sounders go in, get a result? And is this the one where Peter gets the axe? I don't know.

I was going to say, because you mentioned the Ziggies. I was thinking about that. I was trying to think what even made this a rivalry. I think in the early years, there was a lot of late gold sort of draw my member for CEO's gold at home. I think Jimmy Trawi had one over there. We played in an open cup final. Obviously, it was the game that marked the beginning of the Schmetz era, the end of the Ziggie era. There was that weird incident with Christian Rodan.

I think Millet was the wrestling thing. There's been always these small things here. But what's made it like when you went to Kansas, did they view it as like sounders is a rival? Was it like that? Was it more from the fans? I'm sure, yeah, what made this a rivalry? No, I think it's more from the fans. I think it was just two really good teams that were consistently good for 10 plus years. And any time two good teams played together, but you have different dynamics.

They had a lot of US national team members. They got Zusi. They had Beasler. A lot of hardworking Americans. You had Roger Espinoza in that lineup as well. You had Dom Dwyer. I think that the sounders were built that way also in the early years. It was two hardworking teams that just wanted to get a result and wanted to show why the other one was a perennial power. We kind of traded back and forth in open cup victories. We have open cup finals against them. They've won four. We have won four.

And they've got a couple MLS cups under their belt. And as do the sounders. And then you have the coaching rivalry between Peter and Ziggy as well. That was one where both benches would always get in it with each other. They're all pretty much veterans of playing in MLS. And I think it just added something special. It was always a good game. It was very rarely. I mean, the game last year was an offshoot of the sounders going out there and destroying them.

You know, four, five, one or whatever it was. So, I don't know. We can bring on Kellen Kellen's here. We can ask him to. He's played on both sides of it and get his opinion in just a second. But for me, it wasn't one that Peter ever circled on the calendar. It was, hey, we're going into play against a good team. And this is what we have to do. Not all. I think that in Kansas City, that's how I was only there for a year. But that's how he would approach pretty much every game.

It wasn't really any. It was more fabricated by fans and just, you know, the instances that would happen on the field. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a big part of it. There's been like some really big incidents. Like I think, you know, I'm trying to think even as a player, you know, there's teams in the lead you look at. And you just respect them. I think Kansas has been one of those seemed like, you know, well run. Clearly, Peter has a strong hand on that team. It's a well-oiled machine.

They always, always compete well. And I know they've played really good football at times. So I think player wise, there is respect. Sound aside. So. Hey, Steve. Let me just interject because what you were saying was just so kind about their franchise. And I love hearing kind words about, you know, an opponent. Apparently they think that we're the most unlikable team in Evales. And they wrote about that about us. Yeah, they wrote that on their club website.

Oh, wow. It was Kansas City is set to take on one of the most unlikable teams in Vangeligg soccer. That is brilliant. I wonder how do you get labeled that one? I wonder how do you get labeled that one? Good job. Yeah. That is crazy. They wrote down that official website. Well, okay. We'll take that. All right. Well, there's bulletin board material for the guys. Sound is wise. And I don't know. We didn't touch too much in the last broadcast a little bit.

One thing I've noticed, and I'm curious what your view of this is. You know, I think for large parts of the season, well, the whole season, the team has struggled breaking teams down, like really breaking down. And for me, has looked at its best in transition. Whether they want to make that the game, other way, we just defend and play in transition. I don't think they want to do that. But it does seem like a special way from home. You know, Philly Delfi was a big one.

I think Saint Louis as well. I don't know if you can understand where just like really dangerous getting out on the run. But they do want to still build up when they have the ball against Salt Lake. In the first eight minutes, there was four giveaways. And I'm talking like basic to from Jackson to from Luke. And Danny Jackson and I went to booth and we just couldn't believe that. And these are like, you know, or maybe over trying to dribble, trying to make a pass when you probably shouldn't.

Or maybe just go home to Stefan Fry to be safe. And I didn't quite understand that like for you, but this set of players, I mean, you coach, you've played at the highest levels. What style suits these players? And are we seeing it? Well, look, I don't think that Ye-Mar is great on the ball. I don't think that Jackson is great on the ball. I think they're being forced to play a certain way.

And I think that they've developed into that player that's being asked to play that role and be good on the ball. New who's pretty good on the ball, but his passing is in his number one thing. The only one back there that's technically savvy and a great passer is Alex rolled on. Right. And for the most part, teams have negated him. And I think on purpose, I think if you talk to any coach in this league, where would I want my forwards?

Yeah. The force of player to make the play, it's going to be Jackson because he's right footed playing on the left hand side. And it's going to be new who because for the better part of the game, if you're forcing to play long, it's not accurate in any way. He can wiggle out of trouble. Yes, but he's not a playmaker out of the back like Alex. So I think teams are overplaying and forcing things down the left hand side, which is, which is what I would do too.

And if I'm Jordan, I'm thinking, I know that that ball is probably not coming into my feet. I'm going to have to be more dynamic. And I think that's why you're seeing a struggling Jordan to to get on a scorchy because most of the time the way you want to play is go left to right, left to right and inch your way up the field.

But I think teams are playing against the sounders now, well, they'll just force everything down the left hand side and make Jordan make the game by himself because you know who's not going to get up and around. You know he's not going to provide service. So why not, why not make the sounders play out of left, out of the left side of the field. And at some point Jackson and Yee Mar have to just be like, okay, we're going to send it long. I'm going to get it.

Even if you just play Steph and let Steph make the game because he's better with his feet than both the centerbacks are when it comes to playing the ball out of the back. But they're going to have to be careful. And I know that the coaches are probably heart we've seen enough training sessions where it's play out of the back play out of the back. Find the passing lanes play through the passing lanes, right.

And more you get stuck the more you get uncomfortable. That's when you start to make the mistakes. And at some point it's just going to be like, okay, I'm going to dump the ball into the corner. We're going to pick up the ball there. Let us defend and do our job, not create from the back. Yeah. Well, one thing I did want to ask you as well is we've seen in the last two games he's flipped it one game Christian started on the right orbit inside.

And sometimes in game he changes it, which are the two do prefer that should Christian be inside next to JP or does he is he better on the right with orbit inside or is orbit given you enough on the right hand side as well. I think Obed should be in the middle and I think Christian goes out wide right now Christian is is a great box the box midfielder.

But the sounders are struggling to produce offensively and I think Christians a better offensive player than then Obed is I think Obed if he just sits home and tries to link play. Hopefully Albert is feeling confident after finally getting you know getting a goal, which is huge for him any player off your back. And that can ignite something as well. So I want Christian to be more involved in the attack.

But there's times where you find Christian in the middle and he's covering so much ground because JP's not as mobile as he used to be and Obed can do that but he's just not spatially savvy enough to really provide cover when it's best needed. So I think you come out on the road with with Christian on the right like you said, play a little bit more of a counter attacking style, which I think will suit the sounders away from home against a Kansas City defense that is not good.

They're not good on if ever there was a game to break out is this one. I mean they give up about two goals a game that's 31 goals and 16 games minus seven goal differential and they have scored more than a sounders. Sounders only scored 19 goals so far. But this would seem to me to be the game if those in a break out game in the last five times these teams have played they flip from wind. So it's been Kansas then sounders then Kansas then sounders and then Kansas. So the sound.

Let's let's let's bring on a guest here. Come on. Come on, pal. Let's get your opinion. I was going to say former Kansas City player to you but you played for quite a couple of teams. Well, but we're going to stop. Is it still. No, no, no, good way man. Come on. He's a veteran.

What's up, man? How you guys doing? Good, good, good. Let's get your thoughts because you're the closest removed from the team obviously you've seen the games you were in that locker room up until just a couple months ago, pretty much. What have you made that a season so far? I mean, I think it's been a rough start. I think the guys are not playing very cohesive.

There's a there's a disconnect between the back line in the midfield from the midfield to the forwards. It is just not working together. We talked about it the last game against Salt Lake. There's usually talking about the final pass with the sounders. It's not coming through. The first pass wasn't going through. I mean, the amount of mistakes that were going. It just didn't seem like anyone was on the right page. If they were not even in the same book, really.

But if you want to go back to the Christian is aspect, I think if you had a player on the wing that's going to come in like a layout to like a De La Vega, if they had that attacking threat, Christian goes in the middle because I think he connects the back line with Jopolo better than Obit does. But without that, you're losing the right side and the connection of Alex and Christian together is better than most in the MLS. Use that to your advantage and Christian's going to get higher and better.

The chances forward. What about your pendant already over here? What about Kansas City, though? I mean, you were there. Yeah. What years? I was just in 2019. Yeah. So you came after I left. 2018 was a great year for Kansas City. We made it to the Eastern Conference Finals. And the vibe going in in 2019, I'm sure it was much of the same. It was high. I mean, we had essentially the same team with a few additions, you know, myself and a few others.

But it was it was good. And we actually started off well in the Champions League played some good games. And then once we got beat, I think it by Monterey twice, both away and at home, pretty, pretty heavily. I think it's 505 to you just saw the downfall. I don't know what it was. You know, our our backline lost bad balls. Our midfield wasn't connecting and we lose it in bad spots. And they were getting hit on the counter.

It was the game basically changed for us. And I think the confidence kind of just went down. And I think that's seen a lot in Kansas City the last few years. The beginning of the year, they're kind of trying to figure each other out. Happen last year. It's happening now. They seem to they're getting good at the right times and they'll make the playoffs and make a decent run. But, you know, that it's taken a little longer to find each other out.

And I've never played for the guy I can from the outside form what I think he'll be like, but in this kind of run with the team there, what kind of coach is Peter for these moments? He's the kind of guy does he guys, does he kind of step back and let the guys figure it out or is he raw raw in the locker room in your face, like letting you know every day. The standards got to be better.

When when when lose draw, he's in your face. He's he's you see him on the sidelines. He's a very similar person to locker him as well. He's going to stand up for his guys any chance he can. But, you know, he's going to he's one of those guys that he relies on the guys he he knows. I remember that 2019 season when I was there and things were going right in the midfield. He brought back a guy he knows very well. Then he failed harbor.

You know, he guy he knows guys he trusts. And now that he's now without Roger Espinoza, the you know, big time leader guy who's been there for a while. Graham Zusey again big time leader been there for a while. Who's going to be the next guy to step up and like he said, he benched a few of those big players, the Dan Schallowy, the Alan Toledo, you've got Johnny Russell as well, captain, you know, team captain on the bench now.

Who's going to be the next guy to step up? Is it going to be the younger generation? Is it going to be one of those older guys saying, okay, sorry about that. Let's let's get this thing rolling.

Yeah, that's that's a great point. I think yeah, you're right. I think, you know, but it's weird because I was doing one of my coaching badges at the Kansas facility and I saw Peter and we ended up having like, you know, I was with James Riley as well. And we ended up having like a good 15, 20 minute shine. Really just calm normal good guy. And then I see one aside.

I always knew that it was a bad day going in. I mean, we only lost four games that year, I think in 2018. Yeah, every time I came into training, he always got there first, right. And you pull into the parking lot and his car was always parked with the nose facing out, right. But after losses, I knew I knew it was going to be a bad day at training when he pulled straight in and the back was facing out.

It was a weirdest thing I picked up on it after like three or four times because he's so OCD. You knew that he was in a bad mood if he didn't reverse his car into the parking lot. Just that 10 seconds of extra time to reverse in and pull out. You knew it was going to be a day in Kansas City. Yeah, that's a wild.

That's hilarious. I want to ask you about Albert Rosennac. And we want to ask you this. Obviously, you know, fantastic plan. I mean, that is without question, just like a really, really good football player. We can see that right. And then the possible games couple of assists gets his goal to really clever, free kick, etc.

And with Nicole gone now, he's kind of be given the keys and said, look, you can make this team and be that guy be that playmaker. What was it like playing with me? Did it feel like he felt the team was his, you know, I mean, I he felt like he could have the license to go and do I can sort of like right. He went and did everything for the team.

I want to kind of see that Albert and people are kind of waiting, but I'm wondering if you can when you play with someone you see how good they are. And I'm sure being with him, everything training, obviously, fantastic player.

It's a different team. So if you go back to Salt Lake, I remember when I was there. It was his team. Like he he ran that team as him and and Krylack at that time. You know, and when Kyle was even there, he was Kyle, he won the ball and he made things happen. But who was his first look?

It was Albert or Krylack. Like it was, that was the, that was the team. I remember when I first played there and I got my first game. My job was to I was playing as a six and my job was to win the ball and find Albert. And to be fair, he always found gaps like, yeah, we did it as some of his running for him and things of that sort, which is nowadays common.

Yeah, I'm sorry, but if you have a great player, you want to find them on the ball and good spots. So my job was to find the ball. My first look was always where where is Albert and then if not, where is Krylack? So I mean, it's a little different team now. Now he's got players around him who are, you know, the job follows a Christian rolled on the Jordan Morse's the role.

And then he's got players around it now. So he's trying to find how can I then provide for them as well. So it's not just his team anymore. It's the sounders with Albert. It's not just Albert's team, which is weird because I think Krylack is way different than Raoul is.

Yeah, right. I think Raoul is more aching to like a Clint. If he doesn't get the ball, he's going to let you know, right? I don't know how the mere played or if he was happy to, you know, share share the wealth and just wanted to win games. I don't know if that's the case with the sounders. I mean, you've played with those guys before, but is it a case of where Albert just feels like he can't take control the game and he has to find certain players to get them involved.

I don't know, but at some point you have to push that all to the wayside and say, I'm playing the right pass here because it's the right pass and if someone gets they're not getting the ball enough. Sorry, this is the team is going to go where I go. Right. Instead of being the nice guy, he's got to be a. Yeah, look, you have, Tamir was always a.

They always look for each other. So it was always a back and forth, but Tamir is just wanted to win. He'll get a chance in the 90th minute. He might get a chance in the first minute. He'll do the hard work. I think it's one of the nicest guys I played with. Well, you know, it's a different game with a Raul. It's a different game with even in Jordan in a Christian. They're starting to figure each other out, I think it looked for each other more. I think that ball and when he was in.

Leave it was St. Louis, the second goal where he played him through. They finally got the, you know, the kind of the three big players to pop up up and play through. But I would love to see Albert be more selfish. I mean, he's got one of the very good finishers, but never shot. He's one of those. He always looked for that extra pass. And I think he found himself in that eight roll that first year he came in.

You know, he used in 2021 or 2022, 22 maybe. And then he found himself in that eight roll. And he thought, well, maybe I'd be more of an assistant. Dude, take the shot. Take that extra guy. You see it every once in a while, where he'll just pick up pace in the midfield and glide by guys. It's like, I want to see more of that because that's the Albert I played with when I first started in in Salt Lake. I want to see that Albert come back out.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think you speak for a lot of us when you say that. And that's probably even why I even asked the question. One more player when I asked about I asked you this during the last game. It was off air because I was so curious about it. My poor Joe Sergeant, I said Jackson Reagan was he good when you guys did possession drills in training. And you go, yeah, he was very good.

And the reason I asked that was he been given away sloppy boards. I'm not sure why we'll talk about it. But I bring him up because obviously unbelievable season last season, unbelievable. You know, came in one starting spot. All of that made it his. And now we've all been there where you kind of you arrive. But can you tell the next step? Can you really now make that jump? And then really get there where you're being talked about is best 11 and all starting things like that.

And that sees jump he has to make. This season, well, I've seen not just him. I really, I've had did it. Yeah, I was done it too. We're given away really weird boards, but just I mean basic parts into the opposing team. Why have you you know Jackson you actually played with Jackson. Why have you seen from his game in the time you played with him? And then why is it because the team has been asked to play certain way?

Is it just individual errors? Why kind of the sloppy piece of it? Description to new whose game and Alex's game a little bit where in the past really, really valued keeping the ball. And you were kind of played that really kept the ball as well. So I'm sure it's why this team with so many technical players seems to be given away some kind of basic boards at times and given the opponent chances to attack.

It's it's I think it's a little bit of youth a little bit of naïveness. He is. I think it's a good passer when it comes to breaking lines. He's done it a few times. He'll find midfielder. He'll find the forwards and even the long diagonals at times. But when you get that confidence of like, Hey, I did it three times. I can do it four, five and six. And those four, five and six don't come off.

It's sometimes you just got to know when to not go for that home run ball and just keep it simple. It will open up. And I think our patience in the back line, especially is not there. Like the patience isn't there. They think that they can do that ball that's going to cut through and find that Albert to go and we score a goal. And it doesn't have to be that way all the time.

And so when those things, I think we talked about this is when those things don't go right that first pass. Great. Let's go back to bay six. Let's connect three, four passes. And as players, we do this too. When you first get on the field, if you come off the bench or even when you start a game, your first two, three passes need to be completions.

And then from there, you get a little bit confidence. Okay, they know I'm going to play simple things open up. Then you try that hard one. And I think because of the success of last year, because of the coaching staff, knowing that he can play those balls, they're wanting him to do those almost every time, because they don't see the, you know, if you can do it once, you can do it 10 times. That's that's not always the case on the field.

Yeah, I think as a center back, you see everything in front of you. And you think that you can thread a pass more often than you can if we're up three, nothing. No problem. Go ahead, try and thread a pass. We'll deal with everything that's coming. But if it's one nail, two nail, nail, nail, nail, right. I'm never trying to thread a pass just to find Clint's feet or oba's feet. They might get mad at me.

But at the end of the day, they have to understand like if I miss this pass, it's a, I'm screwed. It's a breakaway. Like I'm seeing myself. I'm saving my team by keeping things extremely simple. Now if you guys create up top and you're feeling we're feeling fancy and we're up to three, nothing, then go ahead. I'm going to try and hit you on that pass. But until that point comes, it gets a bit predictable at times for the sounders to and that's what teams want. They'll set it up.

So in the back, I'm looking up and I see a passing lane. That's what they want. They're going to step outside of that passing lane as soon as I lift my head up, put it down. They're just going to step in the passing lane and off they go. Right. And that's what other teams do tactically they sit in passing lanes at the appropriate time.

They'll make it look like it's open. And then all of a sudden it closes. Yes. From up top in the stadium stands. It looks. Oh, just thread that ball through. But when you're actually looking on a field and you see 20 other players and you're trying to thread a pass.

It's really, really hard to do that, especially as a center back. Right. You can try all that stuff in the attacking third because defenders aren't as likely to cheat because if they do cheat, then our forward turns and he's on top of the box and you go. Right. So it's a different set of rules when you are playing in the back.

Yeah. No, that's absolutely a great point. Before we go for this weekend, I mean, we said Kansas, not in the best form. It's one of those games where that's form really matter. You know, any day joining us to continue on. Please look and turn it on. Sanus have match winners to Brad. You mentioned this game that usually has delivered. There's one or two way it maybe hasn't been general. It's been a really, really top game.

How do you feel just in general when it's got a sound is in a good place to go into this game is the game you go to try and win. Do you play safe trying Nick one towards the end? How do you show the approach to the game? I think you approach it just like the St. Louis game. My only fear is that the the front three haven't started the past couple games. So they have to be salivating right now because I think that they're thinking, OK, if I don't produce this. I'll get traded next week. Right.

Honestly, if I'm if I'm the sounders like, shall we is a really good player. He's been in Kansas City for six, seven years. Maybe this is the moment where shall we has to move on. I would imagine that the sounders would be stoked to have shall we on the right hand side to create is a good player.

Maybe he just needs a change of scenery. So I think for those front three they're thinking. OK, if if they start this weekend, I think they'll be chomping at the bit to get a result and put in a good 90 minutes. If they want to stay in Kansas City. If they show the same effort over the past four or five, six games, because they're going to be fresh coming into this one as the sounders are, but they've had less minutes on their legs as well.

I would expect Kansas City to come out and they're going to press. And from the flip side, if I'm Kansas City, my front three, we're going to put the sounders under as much pressure as possible and not let them get into a rhythm of the game because that's when the sounders become good. And we know that Kansas City's defense isn't isn't that strong. Right. You can't let the sounders get into a rhythm.

They've showed they can keep good possession. They've showed that they can win away from home. Philly St. Louis to two, you know, pretty good teams in the grand scheme of things right. St. Louis very good last year and OK this year, but yeah, it's a tough one. I don't know.

I mean, for Seattle, you got to look at taking some points on a team that's struggling, right. You're going into their house, but you got to look at taking the points from the, I think, believe the bottom of the west. Right. You need to find a way to get these points because at the moment, you're not getting them as much as you want. You know, that last minute tie against all day going from three to one.

At the end of the season, you're not going to know who's, you know, what place they were in, who wear it matter. It doesn't matter. It's three points or nothing. So. And then from can't into city, like you said, they're going through and they're just there. Guys on the bench guys, we're starting. They're looking to prove themselves. And that's a dangerous place to be if you're going in for Seattle, because they're at home. They're looking to prove.

They're looking to find the guy in the bench looking for a starting spot. The guy in the starting spot is looking to keep that guy in the bench. That's a tough place for Seattle. Yeah, let's talk about the real soccer tournament going on, man. Yes, need to fuck, dude. TST. Let's go tell us you guys a down there. Right now. I pulled my calf in the first game. That's good. No comment over here. No comment.

But we won the first game. Yeah. And then last night we played Jimmy Conrad, G of Enco, Dwayne, D Rosario, Chandler Hoffman. They smoked us four, one at the end of the day. Everyone going into the target score. Colin was on the field for that one. I can't really speak to it. Yeah, it was, it was tough. I crossed it to give it away, but that's all right. What's the level? What's the actual level? Is it because sometimes you play these games like these charity games and

it's almost walking pace, but is it a bit more intense than that? Right? I'm so sore. Yeah. I'm so sore. They're so sore. It's good level. I mean, I wasn't here last year, but it looks like it was. It looks like it sounds like everyone's talking about it. It's a much better level. And like these guys are, these guys are good. And a lot of them are young and they are running.

Yeah, they are running. They have to, it's, it's chasing things. I don't want to chase anymore. I stopped this. I thought it was going to be a charity game. I thought it was going to be a lot of fun. And then all of a sudden, my competitive is coming out. I'm doing, I'm doing slide tackles, which I shouldn't do. It's just not okay. There's no slide tackling allowed. Yeah, but I didn't do anyone.

Yeah, it did. It's been fun. I mean, we have a lot of beach soccer guys on our team. If we get the result tonight, which we should advance to the next round. It's a 48 team tournament, just like the next World Cup. So eight third place teams will carry on. So we got to score goals. We got a couple Tacoma stars, Jamel Cox. Yeah, a bunch of guys. Tyler Johnson who's played actually for the sounders. He had a trial with the first team.

Five years ago, six years ago, Nick Pereira from the stars, Chris Toe, the goalkeeper. So it's a good roster. We just got a click on all levels and figure out what guys need to be on the field. A lot of these guys that come out, you know, a week before to train and get practice games and stuff. That was not our team. We got here and, you know, it's like a youth tournament and having fun. But if we get the result tonight, that'll be, that'll be good for us.

Because every team has a winner, right? You can't tie a game. So you have to have a winner. It's been, it's been fun. I mean, agueros about 35 pounds overweight for his team. He's been, yeah, there's a lot of legends out here. And it's been super fun. Cause it's like a open, it's like going to a tennis tournament where there's just people everywhere you walk around like.

That's what it's called. It's called the experience like the actual just like, yeah, how is that part? Because I mean, so many old people. Yeah, yeah. It's fun again. Like like soccer's fun again. It's so cool. Yeah. Everyone's here to have, obviously have a good time and like compete. But when you're competing at 77, it's a little bit weird. You're having this.

You have to score a game winning goal to win the game. You know, the whole target time. It's just it makes the game enjoyable. I really does. I mean, it feels like a new youth tournament again. We played two games in a day. I just, you're out there like, you know, orange slices at halftime. It's freaking cool. What time do you guys play tonight? I'll tell you what, David Ackham only left the game because of a personal situation.

And he spoke to the group. I was like, I still have more to give. And he scored a banger of a goal last night. Sounders, hey, if you're listening, you need some speed on the right wing. Like this. He hasn't lost a step. That man was quick bringing back. He's a good, good place. Oh, you'll sink. Oh, down there. Yeah. Oh, you'll sink. Oh, down here.

Uh, you can be there. Yeah. JJ, JJ Wat tackled three people. Yeah. Three people at once. Dude, there's a guy on Virel. He played in in La Liga. Like probably like 10 years ago. Played for like five different teams in La Liga. You might have seen highlights of him. He's about 300 pounds. But the dude can move. He scored a couple goals. Oh, and kick it the ball off of it.

It just gives me hopes and dreams. Yeah. Back, you know, 10 years ago, guys, we hopes and dreams. You know, how big and how athletic can I still be? Hey, but like art. I'm a lineman, and it's all for work and giant body. So I mean, you got guys on other teams getting paid 10, 15, 20 grand to be here on their teams. Our team's not built like that. You get a T shirt or two and we're built on good times, maybe. Yeah, good times. We got a whole bar set up called the Sneak.

How big is the roster? How many have the roster? 20 guys. Yeah, 20 guys. Okay. We're gonna do about one 15. We're down to 17. It's just free subs. Right. It's like hockey. You don't have like free subs whenever you want. Yeah. Yeah. We got the owner of the Tacoma stars down here. And lanes on it. Yeah, lanes down here hanging out with his with his wife and.

We got a good support staff. It's it's fun. I love that. Well, all the best tonight, guys. Hope. Yes, being plus. Yeah, if you go to if you go to TSD's website, they're streaming all from there too. You can watch a bunch of. How much are you trying to do? We will all the best guys. I'm Keely. Broadcasting for.

Apple TV. I'm on season past Keith Costigan and Moadu are on the call for us. Awesome. Bringing back some guys who really know our team. Gonna be really exciting. And then 950 KGR. I am English radio. Steve's like one a Danny Jackson on the call. And 1360 Lray first Spanish language speakers. Who's all pregame or half time? Jackson felt and coach keep doing.

Perfect. I mean, replacing me already. I know. We need you. We need you. It's just like it's just like TST. It's subs whenever you want. Yeah. It was something whenever we want. We all hope we can get. Now I love that. Well, sound as you got to broke us in for their big one on the road to Kansas City. We'll see how that goes. And depending on when this gets out, Brad and Kevin may have played may not have played.

But regardless, be tuned into the TST is really cool thing. I'm a trying what you feel the games today as well. And we'll be back next week as always comment, like subscribe where you got your podcasts. This has been the sound is FC podcast presented by Toyota.

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