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Sound Judgment

Elaine Appleton Grantwww.soundjudgmentpodcast.com
Become a better storyteller, in audio and beyond. Sound Judgment takes listeners into the studios — and the minds — of your favorite audio storytellers. In each episode, lifelong journalist Elaine Appleton Grant and a top host, producer or editor dive into their creative choices. It’s a revealing conversation about the storytelling craft, and it’s show and tell: Elaine plays back clips from her guest’s podcast. Tune up your storytelling by learning from today's best creators! www.soundjudgmentpodcast.com podcastallies.com soundjudgment.substack.com Threads: @elaineagrant
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Episodes

Behind The 13th Step, Part 2: The best defense is the truth

On May 6, 2024, The 13th Step team was honored with a Pulitzer Prize nomination for audio reporting "for their gripping and extensively reported investigation of corruption and sexual abuse within the lucrative recovery industry that sought accountability despite legal pressure.” Today, we go behind the scenes, once again, with New Hampshire Public Radio Reporter Lauren Chooljian and Story Editor Alison MacAdam to learn their techniques for ensuring journalistic accuracy and fairness as they fac...

May 08, 202441 minSeason 4Ep. 7

How to find the truth: Behind the blockbuster investigative series The 13th Step

In 2020, New Hampshire Public Radio Lauren Chooljian received an email about Eric Spofford, the founder of New Hampshire's largest addiction treatment network. In it was an allegation that Spofford was sexually abusing female clients and employees. Chooljian set out to learn whether this could be true. Over the next three years, she would go on a journey to learn the truth, not just about this allegation, but about widespread sexual misconduct in the addiction treatment industry. The result of t...

May 01, 202447 minSeason 4Ep. 6

How to Grow Your Show — Without Social Media

Sound Judgment is about the craft of audio storytelling. Not about the marketing of podcasts. But today, we're bringing you a gift from someone I trust completely when it comes to audience growth: Jeremy Enns of Podcast Marketing Academy, and his co-host, Justin Jackson, cofounder of Transistor.fm. They've teamed up to produce Podcast Marketing Trends Explained, a limited series that extracts proven audience growth techniques from Enns' comprehensive annual survey of podcasters about their marke...

Apr 17, 20241 hr 4 min

Courage vs comfort: Is it finally time to pursue your dreams?

At some point, every one of us will reach a point in our professional lives where it's time to change — but the status quo, even when it's not working, is comfortable. Are you ready to say goodbye to your old life in order to find your way to a new, better one? But you don't have a map? That's what Daily Creative host Todd Henry and his "story architect" producer Josh Gott wrestle with in the episode we deconstruct together, "The Curious Death of Todd Henry." You won't be the same after you list...

Apr 03, 202439 minSeason 4Ep. 5

[Bonus] Introducing Sound School Podcast: Tracking Partners

It's a brave thing to share the outtakes from a tracking session. All the blemishes are right there. But Martine Powers and Rennie Svirnovsky from the audio team at The Washington Post have graciously done just that. They invited Sound School's Rob Rosenthal into their studio to witness Martine at work voicing an episode of The Empty Grave of Comrade Bishop, with assistance from Rennie. Hearing how they work as tracking partners is a real gift for anyone who wants to perform better in the mic bo...

Mar 27, 202431 min

Six Proven Storytelling Strategies to Engage Your Audience

The six storytelling strategies you're about to learn are drawn from the patterns I've seen across more than 150 behind-the-scenes lessons — lessons learned from some of the best hosts, producers, writers and editors I've had on Sound Judgment. You can put these techniques to use right away in your studio or at your writing desk. This episode pulls together examples from compelling shows and award winners. In almost every case, the creators who use these strategies are multi-talented. They produ...

Mar 13, 202439 minSeason 4Ep. 4

Storytelling Secrets, Part 6: Specifics

This is the sixth and final part of our new Sound Judgment quick-hit series on storytelling strategies for hooking your audience and keeping them with you. Today: specifics. The more specific our language, the more sparkling and memorable it is. In the last 18 months of speaking with incredible storytellers for this podcast, no one has been better at this than Sam Mullins. In 2023, Sam won the the Best Podcast of the Year award at the Ambies, The Podcast Academy's attempt to rival the Oscars. He...

Mar 12, 20247 min

Storytelling Strategies, Part 5: The Missing Ingredient

This is part 5 of our new Sound Judgment quick-hit series on six storytelling strategies for hooking your audience and keeping them with you. This one can mean the difference between ho-hum content and stories that your audiences will talk about. And I’m betting that you give it hardly any thought, if you think about it at all. What is it? Stick around to find out. Part 5 features Michael Osborne and Amit Kapoor of the podcast Famous & Gravy, New Hampshire Public Radio senior podcast editor ...

Mar 12, 20248 min

Storytelling Strategies, Part 4: Surprise!

Our fourth S in the 6S framework for hooking your audience and keeping them with you is surprise. It's the left turn when we're expecting a righthand one that makes us listen. It's the twists and turns of an involved, high-stakes plot that we love, or the ending of the movie or the novel that we didn't predict. As New Hampshire Public Radio Senior Podcast Editor Katie Colaneri says, it's the "holy shit" moment. Part 4 features Katie Colaneri, NHPR reporter Sarah Gibson and her This American Life...

Mar 11, 20249 min

Storytelling Strategies, Part 3: Scenes

This is part 3 of our new Sound Judgment quick-hit series on six storytelling strategies for hooking your audience and keeping them with you. Today, we’re talking about scenes. They’re obviously a staple in longform narrative storytelling, like true crime and documentaries. Don’t ignore them, though, for interview shows; you just have to interview well to elicit good, sensory anecdotes from your guests. Between the lines, you’ll hear how useful they are on the page and the stage as well. As a re...

Mar 11, 20247 min

Storytelling Strategies to Grow Your Audience: Part 2, Structure

In this series you'll learn how to use sound vision, structure, scenes, surprise, suspense, and specifics to make content that audiences love and share. Each of these bonus episodes is bite-sized and features examples from today's best audio storytellers. Growing your audience depends on more than marketing: It depends on creating compelling content that hooks your audience and keeps them with you. Apply the six storytelling strategies for creating unforgettable content to your own work! Sign up...

Mar 10, 20246 min

New Series: Storytelling Strategies to Hook & Keep Your Audience, Part 1

This is Part 1: Sound Vision. Be sure to follow the show so you don't miss the next bite-sized episodes on: Part 2: Structure Part 3: Scenes Part 4: Surprise Part 5: Suspense Part 6: Specifics All of these segments — each around 10 minutes or less — will come together soon for a full episode on How to Hook Your Audience and Keep Them Coming Back. Apply these six storytelling strategies for creating unforgettable content to your own work! Sign up for our interactive, virtual Hook Your Audience &a...

Mar 09, 202413 min

How Storytelling Can Heal Your Life

Improve your storytelling, interviewing, writing, producing, hosting and guesting skills! Sign up for new Sound Judgment workshops today at www.podcastallies.com/workshops. On this episode, Emily Silverman and host Elaine Appleton Grant discuss: — Why she thought starting a live storytelling event for physicians should be her next step as she was coming to terms with being in the wrong career while also searching for her biological parents and considering becoming a mother. — How leaving the ful...

Feb 28, 202444 minSeason 4Ep. 3

Drama! Characters! Conflict! History podcasts have them all, with American History Tellers' Lindsay Graham

Don’t miss today’s takeaways! Scroll down for lessons from this episode. The episodes we discussed on today’s episode are History Daily: Silent Spring Sparks the Modern Environmental Movement and American History Tellers Season 61: Salem Witch Trials. Lindsay Graham Lindsay Graham (no, not that Lindsey Graham) is a podcast creator, producer and host known for compelling narratives and in-depth exploration of pivotal moments in American and world history. His chart-topping shows American Scandal ...

Feb 14, 202435 minSeason 4Ep. 2

Should you tell your own story? Navigating the tricky art of memoir

Sharing a personal experience, especially a traumatic one, is a particularly popular scripted podcast form. Memoir done well often shoots to the top of the podcast charts or the bestseller list. It moves us, leaves us breathless, inspires standing ovations and prompts us into conversations and confessions of our own. Sometimes memoir creates change. But memoir produced without first grappling with why your experience matters to others can sound cheap, sensation-grabbing, and empty. As listeners,...

Jan 31, 202437 minSeason 4Ep. 1

The Art of True Curiosity with Kelly Corrigan of Kelly Corrigan Wonders

This episode was sponsored by Signal Hill Insights. Want to know how your podcast is affecting listeners? Need to plan to share outcomes with a branded client? Visit measureyourpodcast.com for a free 4-part email series that will tell you how and why to measure the unique impact of branded podcasts. Go beyond counting downloads. Instead, obtain real responses from real listeners to demonstrate the ROI of branded podcasts. You’ll learn how research generates practical insights to optimize your pr...

Dec 14, 202347 minSeason 3Ep. 7

Introducing Podcast Perspectives: Audience Growth Lessons from Lemonada

If you liked this bonus episode introducing Podcast Perspectives with host Jeff Umbro and guest Jessica Cordova Kramer of Lemonada Media, you'll love: SJ S1/E1: Emotional Bravery on Last Day with Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Not only is she an amazing, evocative storyteller who knows how to get the best out of her team and guests, but she's cofounder and chief creative officer of Lemonada Media. We love hearing from you and getting your support! Please give Sound Judgment a five-star rating and a re...

Dec 07, 202329 min

Secrets of Hosting In-Studio and Live from the Queen of Book Podcasts, Anne Bogel (Best-of Show)

This episode was sponsored by Signal Hill Insights. Want to know how your podcast is affecting listeners? Need to plan to share outcomes with a branded client? Visit measureyourpodcast.com for a free 4-part email series that will tell you how and why to measure the unique impact of branded podcasts. Go beyond counting downloads. Instead, obtain real responses from real listeners to demonstrate the ROI of branded podcasts. You’ll learn how research generates practical insights to optimize your pr...

Nov 30, 202342 minSeason 3Ep. 6

How to Track a Liar with Believable: The Coco Berthmann Story Showrunner Karen Given

The episode discussed on today's Sound Judgment is Believable: The Coco Berthmann Story. Karen worked with reporter/host Sara Ganim to create Believable. This episode was sponsored by Signal Hill Insights. Want to know how your podcast is affecting listeners? Need to plan to share outcomes with a branded client? Visit measureyourpodcast.com for a free 4-part email series that will tell you how and why to measure the unique impact of branded podcasts. Go beyond counting downloads. Instead, obtain...

Nov 16, 202344 minSeason 3Ep. 5

How to Capture an Audience with Near Death’s Nikki Boyer

The episode discussed on today's Sound Judgment is Near Death: Death Party. Near Death is a Dying For Media production with sales and distribution by Lemonada Media. Nikki Boyer's takeaways These are the takeaways from the end of the episode. For more takeaways from all of our guests, subscribe to the Sound Judgment newsletter and visit our blog. Nikki loves having uncomfortable conversations. She’ll ask almost anything, and she’ll share herself in order to create a welcoming, inviting environme...

Nov 02, 202338 minSeason 3Ep. 4

Weight for It’s Ronald Young Jr.: Unlocking the Key to Storytelling Success

The episode discussed on today's Sound Judgment is Weight for It: Episode 2, Shame Spiral. It’s produced by ohitsbigron Studios and distributed by Radiotopia. Ronald Young Jr. is a critically acclaimed audio producer, host, and storyteller, based in Alexandria, Va. He is an avid pop-culture enthusiast and the host of the television and film review podcast Leaving the Theater . He is also a regular contributor to NPR’s Pop Culture Happy Hour as a guest panelist . He has hosted shows such as Pushk...

Oct 19, 202337 minSeason 3Ep. 3

How Anna Sale invites listeners in

The episode discussed on today's Sound Judgment is Death, Sex & Money_—Bells & Bills: The Price You Paid for Your Wedding. We also discuss Death, Sex & Money — A Headline Stays Static Even as a Life Transforms. Anna Sale is the creator and host of Death, Sex & Money , the podcast about “the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more.” Anna won a Gracie for best podcast host in 2016 and the show won the 2018 Webby and 2021 Ambie for best interview show. (Jan 2024 upda...

Oct 12, 202342 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Classy's Jonathan Menjivar: The Fine, Awkward Art of the Personal Audio Documentary

The episode discussed on today's Sound Judgment is Classy with Jonathan Menjivar, Episode 1: Are Rich People Bad? Jonathan Menjivar is a senior producer at Pineapple Street Studios and the creator and host of Classy with Jonathan Menjivar . He also made the hit shows Project Unabom and The Clearing. Prior to Pineapple, he was a longtime producer at the public radio show This American Life and also served as the show's music supervisor. He's also worked as a producer at Fresh Air with Terry Gross...

Sep 28, 202341 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Introducing Season 3: Inside the Minds of Today's Top Storytellers

Follow Sound Judgment on your favorite podcast app . For more information on the show and to browse the back catalog, visit our website: www.soundjudgmentpodcast.com . Leave a voicemail for us! Just click on the microphone icon on our website. Sign up for our twice-monthly Sound Judgment newsletter on the art and craft of audio storytelling. Follow Elaine Appleton Grant on LinkedIn. Email us! allies@podcastallies.com. Sound Judgment is a production of Podcast Allies, LLC. We make beautifully cra...

Sep 14, 20232 min

How to Make Serious Topics Fun with the hosts of Famous & Gravy

The episode discussed on today's Sound Judgment is Famous & Gravy: Poetic Justice (Maya Angelou). Amit Kapoor is co-host and co-creator of the podcast Famous & Gravy . Amit has spent nearly two decades in management positions for media organizations, both commercial and non-profit, ranging from Match.com to Wikipedia. He is also a stand-up comic, former Wienermobile driver, video game voice actor, and a certified meditation instructor. Amit has an MBA from The Wharton School at the Unive...

Jun 29, 202339 minSeason 2Ep. 14

Pushkin's Julia Barton on The Best Audio Storytelling of the Year

[Scroll down for takeaways you can use from today’s show.] Win prizes! Tell us your favorite Sound Judgment episode Deadline: 6.30.23 This Sound Judgment season is quickly coming to an end. Our season finale airs Thursday, June 29. We go behind the scenes with the hilarious hosts of Famous & Gravy , the podcast that asks, “Would you like to have had this dead celebrity’s life?” To celebrate, we need your help! Please tell us your favorite and/or most useful Sound Judgment episode and why. In...

Jun 22, 202341 minSeason 2Ep. 13

The Art of the Interview with Conversation Expert Celeste Headlee

Celeste Headlee has anchored many programs, including Tell Me More, Talk of the Nation, Here and Now, All Things Considered, and Weekend Edition. She also served as co-host of the national morning news show, The Takeaway, and served as executive producer of Georgia Public Radio’s On Second Thought. Her best-selling books include We Need to Talk: How to Have Conversations That Matter, Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing and Underliving, and Speaking of Race: Why Everybody Ne...

Jun 08, 202349 minSeason 2Ep. 12

How to Make Listeners Breathless for More with Wild Boys' Sam Mullins

About Sam Mullins Sam Mullins is a writer, comedian and journalist based in Toronto, and is the host of the critically acclaimed podcast series “ Chameleon: Wild Boys” and “Chameleon: Dr Dante” from Campside Media and Sony Music. For the past decade, he's been writing comedy for TV + radio, and performing his award-winning solo shows all over North America. His stories have been featured on This American Life , The Moth , and CBC's The Doc Project . The episode discussed on today’s Sound Judgmen...

May 25, 202356 minSeason 2Ep. 11

How to Tell the Truth: The Art of Memoir with Dana Black

Mother's Day seems like it should be a Hallmark moment. But for many, reality is far different. Dana Black started her very personal podcast, I Swear on My Mother's Grave , for listeners suffering from complex mother loss — meaning not only people who have lost their mothers to death, but also, in life by estrangement, illness, addiction, circumstance. Sensitivity warning: This conversation touches on alcoholism and addiction. Audio storytellers can learn design the tone, writing, and mood of a ...

May 11, 202346 minSeason 2Ep. 10

Best Of: Emotional Bravery with Last Day's Stephanie Wittels Wachs

One day in the summer of 2022, Lemonada Media’s Stephanie Wittels Wachs received a surprise: an invitation to the White House to witness the signing of a gun safety bill. The invitation was sparked by the tremendous emotional impact of their hit show, Last Day, and especially of this episode, "A Love Story." If you strive to make audio documentaries on the toughest problems we face today, this behind-the-scenes conversation is your road map. Scroll down for several actionable takeaways from this...

May 04, 202345 minSeason 2Ep. 9
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