It is time to get solar powered. This is the solar powered podcast. I'm Ryan Hall from loyal hearts coaching.com, life and relationship coaching for kings. And we continue with our tales from COVID 19 series. As you've been following over the past few weeks, I've been interviewing a lot of my fellow authors from the great pause, blessings and wisdoms from COVID 19, which if you're listening to this here in early July, get on the board on that now because it's gonna come out very soon.
We're talking in a matter of weeks here, like, right around the corner. Got a killer cover. We've got a bunch of just killer authors who have, who have contributed to this, and we've got one on the phone right now. It's a privilege to call this man a friend. I went through my accomplish coaching training program with him. He's a a repeat guest on this program here. But let's go down to the islands and talk to my Caribbean brother from a different mother, my dear friend Ian Charlore.
Welcome back to the solar powered podcast, my friend. And you're still on mute. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, I figured that one out. It's just you you you you just tap the little microphone button and then Yes. You know? Oh, man. Yeah. Thank you for having me, man. It's always good to come back here and have a chat with you. No. My per my my pleasure.
You know, it's starting to, you know, as this, as this podcast is starting to grow in a little bit of popularity here, I feel like there's some I feel like there's some, like, some, you know, some beauty in having some repeat guest on the program. And there's, by the way, there's no irony to the fact that this is episode 24, and I'm also talking to one of the world's biggest Kobe Bryant fans here. So there's no irony in that whatsoever. It's destiny. Oh, definite it definitely is destiny.
But, how are things down in the, how how are things down in the islands today? Well, you know, Cayman Islands seems to be back to business as usual. You know, we've, we've kept the borders closed, but, I think we've been reporting, like, 0 cases, 0 new cases. And, it's actually really, really, really mind boggling because Friday night, I don't go out. I don't leave my house in the night. You know? I'm work I work all day. I'm tired.
But anyways, Friday night, as the as the, entire country is reopening, you know, I'm driving through the town, and I see all these cars. Like, you wanna know that every single bar on island is ram packed. Wow. Like, everybody is out. And I'm like, oh, does that mean we're gonna have more cases? And nah. You know, the the the press conference, you know, no no new cases detected yet. You know? But we've been doing extremely well, and I'm grateful, blessed, actually.
Everyone who lives on this island will tell you, we definitely, are grateful for the government and their leadership. For the first time in our lives, we're actually able to say, some of us, we're actually able to say, we're proud of the government. You know? They have handled this thing. Like, they have literally led the way and showed us what leadership is like in in a crisis. So I'm grateful to have, you know, received that experience. Amen to that. Amen to that.
There's a there's a lot to be said. This is not one of those kinda shows. There's a lot that I could say about how certain leaders have handled it here in this country, but I think that, you know, the things that are left unsaid are are a little bit better here. It's one of those if you can't see anything nice, just keep your mouth shut kind of things. You know, I don't really subscribe by that rule all the time. I like to call a spade a spade. You guys are literally shitting your pants.
I don't know what you're doing, and I really hope it improves because literally, literally, there's a saying in the Cayman Islands, it says and in in the Cayman Islands and a lot of, in the Caribbean. And it and it this saying says, when America catches a cold sorry. When America sneezes, we catch a cold. This has been a saying from before a pandemic. Right? Right. So when I'm and what it says what it means is anything that happens with America, especially economically, it affects us. Right?
It has an effect on us because all of our goods are imported. Majority, I I believe, may be looking at 80%. I think 80% of our tourists are actually Americans. So our tourism industry is actually tight. It is destroyed. It is literally on its face slowly sinking into the dirt. So a lot of people are out of work.
You know, there are there is like a humanitarian crisis, because you have a lot of expatriate workers who actually, you know, they, some of them have no actually no backdoor, no plan b, no no plan c, and some of them are probably on plan f. You know? So we have a lot of charities that have been reignited to actually deal with those, situations. So now we've and then it's a lot of, it's a lot of, coordinating international flights.
Because if you have a lot of people from India, like, they were just trying to arrange I think they just did. They were just arranging a flight from from here to India. But it's like they had flights arranged from here to Nicaragua, and everyone paid for their tickets. And then the Nicaraguan government says, no. Sorry. We're not letting people in. So if you're a Nicaraguan in an in another country, you're gonna have to wait until we open up our borders.
So everybody had to try to get their money back for the flights, which took time, you know, so you kinda need money in you know, they spent a lot of them spent their last money, you know, their last money to get these flights, and then their government is like, no. You can't actually come back right now. And it's the same for a lot of governments around the world. You know, they're trying to protect their, borders.
So so yeah. So I I don't know why I went and started talking about all of that, but, you know, it's just kinda really it's really you know, it's it's just it's just a real experience of what is actually going on here. And because we're a smaller country, and we're, like, we're closer, I don't wanna give this idea that we are, we really are like this big family island. No. No. That is not that is not the case.
But there are people here who are suffering still to this day, still suffering and would like to actually leave this country and go to their countries to be with their family who's also suffering. You know? So it's an experience, this COVID 19.
Yeah. When so many people leave their own countries, leave their own, you know, homes and come to the to the, to the islands in in search of something better, in search of something, like, bigger, and then you just get slapped upside the head with a global pandemic. It really throws a lot of people off, and I'm sure you're seeing this just over and over and over again out there. Just people spending their last dollars and, you know, winding up with just nothing. Nothing. Less than nothing.
Perhaps the the thing that they have is life, and it's the most precious thing. You know, but they have no food. Like, they they some of them don't know how they're gonna get fed. And thank thank god for the charities. Like I said, charities and good businesses that took took care of, you know, like my barber. I'll give give you this quick story. Right? My barber, finally, things open back up and get a shave. See, I don't have a beard anymore. Right?
I'm not no longer looking like a homeless caveman. Right? I'm About to say about to say, I know you can't see it out there listening, but you look a little look a little tighter today. Yay. Oh, tighter? Come on, man. I look like a caveman with no cave. You know? It was ridiculous because we all barbers, all hair, everything was just shut down, so much so that I actually did my own my own hair. And, you know, my wife said, I think I'm not too bad at all.
Actually, no one noticed that that just shows you how caveman I was. You know? Everyone thought this was an improvement. I don't know where they got that from. But, but anyways, like, I went to my barber, and my barber is finally open. And, you know, I'm sat here and we're talking and, you know, he says, you know, his boss took care of him. You know, they they didn't want for anything during the pandemic because I reached out to my barber. Right?
See what happened is so my barber and I have a really nice relationship. Right? Because I we we I I give him a lot of books and exchange a lot of knowledge for conversation and stuff. Right? Sure. So I reached out to him. I reached out to my barber and my gardener. My gardener said, hey. I'm gonna still pay you because I can't even imagine you can't do any work right now. You know? I'm gonna I still wanna pay you. Oh, paid him. I tried to do the same thing with my father.
Like I said, we have a different relationship. So my barber comes back and say, I don't want any money. He's a Jamaican. So you don't want no money. Like, I want books. So I was like, oh, you want books? No problem. So I send him, like, a 100 and something books in this excel file this file that I had. Right? So I send it to him or whatever, and and when I linked back up with him to get this haircut, and he's telling me, like, you know, actually, my employer really took care of me.
You know, like, they really we did not want for anything. He said, actually, if anything, I have to tell her she need to calm down because she was just ready to give all of this love. You know, she's just you know, I have to tell her, like, you know and this is someone that they've been with. See, people don't get it. You know? When people work with you, for you, whatever the heck it is you wanna call it, you're your family. And then and it's I'm not saying you fight I fight a family too.
You know? Like, it's all good. Like, we supposed to be mature enough to know that if you're not serving me, then we need to, you know, move on. Right? But, but they get treated like their family, and I and I really that made me feel so good sitting down in the chair, getting my haircut by the by, you know, by this man. I'm talking to his colleague, and, you know, they're telling me there's good news. And I'm like, we need more of that, Ryan. You know, we need more of that.
We need more of that because we need more people to have a good experience, specifically that part. You know? Because you can give back and then person doesn't have a good experience. It has to matter.
Yeah. I you know, one of the things that came up for me as you were sharing that was just and really out of a lot of the people that I've spoken with on this podcast and about this book is that so many people are rediscovering and getting better connected with the they're they're using the slowdown to get better connected and get rediscovered and rediscover just what is important to them. And, so many people, it's family. It's, you know, it's friendships. It's relationships.
It's something that you can take to the grave, and it's not simply, hey. I want more money. I want more money because it's, you know, it's one of those situations you give you you get back what you give in the world. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I know. I I definitely agree. And it and it is an experience. You know?
My experience with the great pause, you know, being an entrepreneur, being an o the the, you know, the leader, the the top leader of a company, with 50 people who each of these people are responsible for, like, 4 people, maybe 5 people in their country. You know, I I definitely it's not something that I take lightly. You know? So during the during the great pause, I turned inwards a lot. You know?
I'm like, oh, I was already an inward facing person because, you know, I I I I'm I'm a someone who journals twice a day, you know, in the morning to open the morning and in the night to close the night, finish off the day. And so I'm always having this practice of looking inwards. But this one, see, the great pause allowed for us to be still enough to not be distracted by everything else. Because we're always distracted. We're going 100 miles an hour.
We never have enough time to slow down and to just think. And if we do that, we don't have time to follow-up the thought. You know? You slow down to thinking. It's like, yeah. Slow down to thinking. I'm going again. I'm going a 100 miles an hour. I'm Barry Allen. Right? I just don't have a red suit. Right? For everyone else, that's Flash. Right? Right? That's a Flash reference. To con to continue our comic book conversation from last night. Right?
So so, you know, like, I I so appreciated the opportunity to stay home with my daughter, you know, to just remember this is what this is all about. This is all about getting me to, you know, having a relationship with my kid. She's almost 3 years old, and she, you know, she can say so many things. She can express herself.
So, you know, I have work to do to to be in relationship with her, and being a you know, I like to I consider myself to be, to I like to say it as a high performing CEO, you know, someone who's I constantly need to be thinking ahead, you know, 5 months, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years. There's only so much headspace to go around.
So to be able to engage in the great pause, to be able to slow everything down, you know, sit on the porch, you know, just think, or just be with my daughter and play with me. She said, daddy, play with me. So I'll play with her blocks and, you know, to be able to just do that stuff. I found so much value in that, and I know that I am not the only one because I've heard the stories from parents who would normally be home, normally sorry to be at work. And they have to they can actually be home.
They had to be home, and their kid has to be home, not at school with a teacher. Actually, at home experiencing their parent, not parent who comes from work, you know, attire. You know? It's a different experience of parent because it's parent who's actually working during a pandemic, but it is still relationship and experience with parent. See, I long before this, I thought that we were working too much. You know, I felt I always feel like, you know, what's it all in service of?
I remember being a kid. I come home. My mom is not home because she's at work. You know, she comes home tired. She, you know, we talk for a lot. You see, what, an hour, 2 hours. She goes to sleep. She wakes up in the morning. She does it again. You know? And I or I go to school. You get I'm like, oh, come on. It's just everybody's in passing. That's not the way we're supposed to live.
And if it and if and from me growing up with that experience and all of the all of my friends, for us that are in our mid thirties, early thirties and stuff, and we experienced that with our parents. No. We promise we don't want that to be the experience of our kids because we need connection. You know, we we don't just we need connection. You know, we need love, not money, not just provision. We have to find a better balance, and it's not to put down our parents. And the parents work hard.
All parents today work hard. Yep. You know? It's really to say we need to shift the culture from on on the corporate side. You know, we need to we need to become more flexible, and we will actually realize we will find more efficiency in that malleable, you know, occasion. The the just the idea of being able to say, hey. You know what? Once a week, work from home. Hey, you know? You know?
Because if you're already doing virtual schooling for kids, well, why can't you just stay at home one day for the week? You know, like, we we the pandemic proved that we could do amazing things in short space of time, you know, with little resources, with just a lot of willpower. You know, the entire country went virtual. A lot of willpower, a lot of brilliant people tapping into brilliance that they've given you exactly. Exactly. I mean, look at this book for crying out loud.
I mean, the mere fact that this book. Yeah. I mean, the mere fact that the great pause and, you know, god knows how many hours this hill is putting into actually creating this, and it's gonna be absolutely incredible. But one of the things that came up for me as you were sharing that was it's, you know, one of the one of my favorite song lyrics of all time. It comes from the from the Pink Floyd song, Wish You Were Here, where, like, 2 fish where, like, what the hell is a line?
Like, 2 fish we're we're like I totally blanked on the line. That's but, I'll have to look it up because this is gonna drive me crazy. But And I'm like yeah. I mean, and I'm like I mean, I'm like you you know, I'm like mister, you know, mister mister music care. Oh, we're just 2 lost souls swimming in a fishbowl year after year. And when so many people we have I mean, my my my dad was the exact same way.
When I was in when I was in elementary school, my dad was working probably 70, 80 hours a week as, as the owner of a pretty popular bar in Tuscaloosa. I rarely saw him. But one of the things that I always give him credit for was that he always made an effort to come home and have dinner with us. And see that stuck out to you? Because look, you remember that. Yeah. You know? And those things matter for us. They really do. Things matter. Yeah, man. I mean yeah.
Yeah. And that's one thing that I commend you because as a you know, you're the you're the owner and and CEO of a, you know, a pretty popular if you can just refresh our, my audience here, of a pretty popular, cleaning service there in the islands. Yes. A one cleaning services. That is that is us. Easy to find in the phone book too. Easy to find. You know? But, you know, that's one thing that I commend you because you, you know, you wanna make this business a success.
Don't get me wrong, but there's that beautiful little girl at home that needs her daddy. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. And, you know, we know what happens to little girls that don't have good relationships with their daddies. You know? It it's not always smooth. You know? It's not always smooth. So, you know, the one thing that I I I know that I wanna make a big difference with is I just want to I want to find the balance more. You know? Personally, I wanna find the balance more.
And, you know, my business is gonna be successful, regardless. Right? Because I'm gonna will it. And my relationship with my family is gonna be successful regardless because I'm gonna will it. And what I constantly think about is, well, Ian, what part of the what's getting more attention right now? And the tough thing is as a father, as a parent is and sometimes you just gotta say, well, you know what? I have to sacrifice this for this right now.
See, I can't I have to why why a balance must be struck is because I can't say I'm going to, stay home every day and and play with my kid. I have to work because these people are dependent on me. Everybody's dependent on me to, you know, ensure that, you know, we're all good. So you can't take these things lightly. You know?
Like, you you you can't take the contribution that you bring lightly, and you can't try to put it all on you because I found the easier thing to do is to just have an amazing team. That makes everything a lot easier. I kid you not. Indeed. Indeed. Yeah. Knowing and knowing how to delegate to that team too. Knowing how to delegate to that team. You know? And and and a a lot of entrepreneurship is is leadership. You know?
And a lot of leadership, for me, personally, is authenticity because I don't need to be perfect. I have no obligation to be perfect. So I say, I apologize to my staff all the time because as I said to them, I'm like, what do I know? You know? Like, I'm experiencing today for the first time with just as you are you are. You know? Like, and even what I think I know, I'm open to your perspective because you might give me an angle that I didn't even see before that improves the the entire mission.
So I don't wanna ever create an an an atmosphere to shut you down. You know? I wanna create an atmosphere where I kinda lit where I listen more. You know? I'm able to listen more. So, know, this this great pause has been an amazing experience. It's exactly what I needed. I was on the verge of burnout, and then I had to pause. So the days where there's absolute lockdown, I that I can do anything, I didn't do anything.
I mean, in the beginning, I did a lot of research for work because now you need to think about CDC guidelines and what the research says about this virus, and I needed to obviously take care of our customers. But, yeah, as soon as that pause was over, I was able to be, like, reenergized from burnout to great pause to reenergize to still crushing it right now. You know, as I just said to you, we may need to hire some people. Yeah. You know, it's not a bad problem to have in a global pandemic.
Not not one bit. Not one bit. No. Yeah. And, you know, you know, I think that really that really is just a beautiful segue into just into your contribution to the great pause to the book is that when when the island shut down, you know, no offices, no, you know, no offices were open. You weren't able to actually send people into these office buildings, into these apartment buildings to be able to clean them. You had no work.
And you had a lot of people counting on this paycheck to keep from absolutely sinking, you know, sinking like a sinking like a boulder in the middle of the Caribbean ocean. Yeah. So, you know, talk a little, talk a little about what readers can expect out of your contribution to this book.
Oh, well, thank you, Will. Essentially, when you read my chapter, you will get, you know, a very real, you know, an upfront perspective of what it might have been like and what it was like for someone who's an expatriate living abroad, working in this low income field, and just being the words escape me right now to even just be able to, you know, connect a word with the desperation, you know, the, you know, the helplessness, the hopelessness, you know.
Like, I could not make my staff go through that because their friends, they were seeing their friends. You know, their other peep other friends who work in other places, they were seeing what was happening with them. You know, I I we so we're in the Caribbean. We're Caribbean folks. Right? We are a little bit more brash than some people. Right? So it's like there's a tradition with Caribbean folks.
Because if you haven't seen me full on and you put on weight, maybe your aunt might say, why you got fat? Like, you put on weight. Look at you. Right? And with no filter. Right? So no one is sensitive over here in that regard. Right? So one of my staff, would pick her up. So I pick her up and, you know, we were we were heading home. So we she needed a ride home. So we picked her up and, you know, we took her to her house. And you know what?
Well, where she gets in the car and I'm saying, I'm like, I called her name. So I said, you, you have a good COVID experience, ma'am. She said, don't make you say that, sir. And she starts smiling and she's like, because I put on all this weight. Not true? And I was like, yeah. Yeah. And she's like and she and and she's smiling and she's like, I'm so I'm so grateful that because I've seen I've seen the other people.
And whereas I can actually put on weight during the pandemic because she worked all through the pandemic. See, as you said earlier, work stopped. People did not have work for 3 months, 4 months. We did have we were we were considered essential, so we have some government contracts that, we're still operating. But if you think about having 3 or 4 people at work versus 50, That that doesn't really balance out at all. Right? So, you know, right away, we we we knew that we weren't making money.
But as everyone, no one was making money. Right. What other companies started to do was they started to release stuff. Because if you have them on your payroll, you're going to have to take care of them. Right? So what they did is they made their their call and they released a lot of those stuff. Right? So what we did is we said, no. We didn't want to do that. Because, in keeping with our company culture built on love, that's one of our slogans.
It's that to release staff, in our opinion, would be detrimental to the psyche of the remaining staff. To think that when things get hard, we give up on you. Now I can tell you, go back to the conversation I was having with the young lady, because that's how cool we are. She'll say, sir, like, this is obviously, this is the best place that I've ever worked. You know what I mean? Like this no nowhere else compares. The experience of being able to know that my coworkers are good.
You know, like, to know that we don't have to be in the mental space of wondering if we're gonna get kicked out because they're getting landlord letters. You know? They're getting letters from their landlords saying, hey. If you don't have the rent, if you know you're not gonna have the rent, you need to move out or return to your country. Whatever you do, you can't be here. Gotcha. Right? And I've seen those letters.
Yeah. You know, so some of them, when they get those letters man, can you imagine? You I mean, of course, you can imagine. I know you won't talk to too maybe a little too much, my friend. You know? You know? So so think about if you are having 40 something people on the verge of homelessness. We don't take that lightly. You know, like and not just homeless, homeless and without food. You know? Homeless and without health insurance.
Homeless without food, without health insurance, right, without connection in a global pandemic, because they're locked inside of their houses because we are on 24 hour lockdown. So let's just go through that again. Right? You are homeless. You are jobless. You are foodless. You are health insurance less. Right? You're all of those things in a global pandemic whilst you're a prisoner in your house. Right? It now that we're past it, it's easy to look and romanticize what it was.
Well, we are kinda past it. You guys are still going through it. You know, hopefully, you get your stuff together. I don't know what's going on over there. But, you know, like, can you just go in that experience? Right? In that experience, the the realness, the visceral, like, nature of just being able to you can almost feel the energy off of the the the people. You know, like, just the the worry of, oh, I don't have this. I don't have that. I don't know this. I don't know that.
It's like, for my staff, when they tell me, I'm so happy I didn't have to think about that. I I'm so happy that that was not a problem of mine for more than, like, minutes. Like, a conversation changed, all of that. So they were fretting, fretting, fretting, super stressed, you know, like, just not sure what's going on, nervous, and, you know, not you know, like, just as you would think a person would be. Totally.
Yeah. And then they have a conversation, because literally, you know, you know, we send a message to everyone. Hey. You know, just a reminder, you know, of where you work. You guys are good. You know, like, we got you. You know, we're gonna be providing for you. We're gonna take care of you, you know, and you're good. And now that things have over back up, you know, we did our last payroll, 98% of people have got back to work. Right?
And it's it's not that 98% of our work from previous has returned you. No. It's that I you know, we've literally been trying to prioritize and get our staff out, so that they can take care of themselves. Because it's not only so long a company can actually manage this this line of, of action. Of course. You know?
You know, one thing one thing that I wanted to reflect on this is that when, is that having a, like, having a culture, having a mindset, having a, you know, a, you know, a practice like this of of taking care of somebody and where they don't have to they don't have to worry about, okay. Am I gonna get kicked out of my place? Am I gonna go hungry? Is the power gonna get cut off?
Not only can they relax and know that they can get through this, I hate to use this word, but this unprecedented time in human history, they can can get through this without having to worry about this kind of stuff. But once work comes back, they're gonna start giving they're gonna start putting out better work, working harder, which in turn makes the company look good and which in also turn helps get you guys more business. Exactly.
So it's a total so it's a total so, you know, it's a total, it it's like a like a like a sphere of influence kinda thing. Yeah. I mean, it's it's it's taking positive actions to affect culture, and it's it's key principles of change management, you know. And and it comes down to something to the effect of, you know, we're taking care of the of of of our staff, and we let them know specifically this. You are our number one customer. You are our number one customer.
Because without you, we need to serve you and you serve our clients. Right? And it it's not that you can't get them to serve the clients without serving them. You know? It's just that that requires meanness. You know? And that that requires an approach that I would not want my mother to work in a situation like that. And if my mom can't work where I work, listen. If it's if I literally use this, if it's good enough for my mom, it's good enough for my staff. Right?
So I'm taking care of them the same way I'm taking care of her because she could be one of them. She just learned bartending instead of cleaning. You know what I mean? Like, if she got locked into cleaning, then that would have been her work. Exactly.
Exactly. And, I know we were speaking earlier, before we, before we started recording here about just how much your mom and dad really influenced you and how you managed to create your business and really your approach to leading a business through, through some pretty scary times. If you wanna, you know, expound on that a little bit. Yeah. Well, you know, essentially, you know, my parents gave me the framework. You know, we, we're no strangers to crisis.
You know, we we in 2004 on September 11th, we were hit by a category 5 hurricane, the Cayman Islands. So it kinda feels like we were personally hit by it, you know. I felt personally attacked. Honestly, you know, it ripped through our the roof. You know, we had no roof. Water was everywhere. You know, we have to, like, literally tie it up around each other and try to make it to the next house through water.
And it and, you know, to to anyone who's listening, you know, I just wanna just paint this kind of vivid image of you know, you're going into water not sure if it's actually electrified because there are telephone lines and everything that's down. You don't know where you're stepping. The wind is like a 100 and something miles an hour. It's not safe. There's there's things flying through the air and stuff. It's it's absolutely not safe. You know, my parents were calm and cool as a fan, bro.
Right? You know, we literally they just sprung into action. It just helped, you know, literally. Sprung into action. Right? Okay. We need to do this. Alright. Boom. There was a family that actually moved in with us, and we actually took care of them during the during the storm. They had to leave from their home because their roof got torn off also, you know.
So we as a at least 2 families now, you know, we, you know, traverse that crisis and, yeah, we kinda just deal with crisis like it's a, you know, everyday thing, to be honest with you. You know? And I and I'm I'm thankful for that mindset because my wife will say to me. Like, it's like you just bring into action. You know, when something goes wrong, you just bring into action. Well, you know, I have 11 years of law enforcement experience. It's kind of innate now. You know?
And the law enforcement, came after the crisis, that big, category 5. So my parents taught me. They gave me the framework for, hey. This is what you do when the shit hits the fire. Right? You need to pull yourself together, and you need to deliver, and you need to take care of the most important things to you. Right? Even I was trying to I remember I remember going through the back door and have my computer in my hand.
I got my big computer tower in my hand, going through a category 5 or anything, because I'm like, I am not leaving my goddamn computer. I need this thing for all my gaming and everything. You and your gaming and everything. I'm telling you. I got this thing over my head, and I'm, like, walking through the rain and trying to, like, stay close to the person in front of me because you don't wanna get washed away. You know? I remember this, and my computer didn't make it. You know? And, I can do it.
So So my mom was like, yeah. You know? And my mom was like, yeah. Those are things. The the they're not important. You know? But but they but they the effect of seeing the leadership, of experiencing that, and then seeing the destruction to make you really understand. Yo. This was real. Like, no one died. Praise the lord. But this was as real as it gets. Right? And to see what the balance was yeah. I I take that with me every day. So during the global pandemic, it was not hard to serve.
To me, that's when you serve. When in crisis, serve more. Exactly. It it you know, it's like what I would wanna leave us with. Of course. Of course. And and it's like I said earlier, once, you you get what you give out. And that's the kind of energy, that's the kind of that's the kind of leadership that really leaves a long lasting impact on the world during a really frightening, scary, scary time. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. 100% agree.
Yeah. And and and, you know, I just I I just I just wanted to say this last thing right before we, sign off. What I did was not anything I I know I I I I I I get how big of a deal it is, but, you know, Marcus Aurelius did the same thing. I literally just copied what he did. You know? And I kinda look at the governments around the world, the the the smart ones. Kinda did the same thing too. You know?
You have to freeze debts from the you have to freeze all debts and expect you to pay debts back in the time crisis. You understand? Like, you need to make sure you take care of the most vulnerable people. It's a crisis, you know, like, you know, you gotta take care of the most vulnerable people, and, you need to make sure that, you know, we're connected. You know, we don't need to be we don't need to be, hugging each other to be connected. You know?
So I you know, definitely, I would say, yeah, when when in crisis, you just serve more. And on that note, I think it's a that's a beautiful place to wrap up here. Ian, how can people find you online, my friend? Well, how do you find me online? Just go to Instagram, life coaching for free, all one word. Yeah. If you're interested in following that page, you could reach out to me. Send me a DM. Maybe I'll have something a lot more proper later on when I have the time.
That's and that's perfectly fine. And I will, of course, include the link to that. Ian, it's been a privilege, my brother. Thank you so much for joining us. Yes, sir. Alright. And that'll just about do it for this episode of the solar powered podcast, a presentation of Royal Hearts Coaching.
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