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Songwriter Soup is a frank discussion about how to make it in the music industry as a songwriter. It takes grit and a lot of patience, but also sound financial advice. Laura Veltz is a Four-time Grammy-nominated songwriter and is teaming up with Tracy Hackney, a seasoned financial advisor for musicians, to bring you the tips and tricks of the industry. Joined by host and producer, Kevin Sokolnicki, the trio has interviews with some of the most prominent and up-and-coming songwriters and artists in the music industry. Songwriter Soup airs every Monday where you get your podcasts.
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Episodes

Daniel Tashian: Music Catching Up To You

Songwriter, multi-instrumentalist & producer, Daniel Tashian (Kacey Musgraves Albums Golden Hour, Star Crossed & Deeper Well) took the long way around to massive success. Like many of us, his musicality was simply way ahead of its time. On purpose or by accident, Daniel managed to stick it out long enough to witness his own Golden Hour and we are all better for it. Daniel's Songwriter Playlist on Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/daniel-tashian-the-songwriters/pl.ec6a51971...

May 20, 20241 hr 12 minSeason 3Ep. 29

Catalog Sales: Part 1

Strap in, y'all. We're diving into the intricate world of the Catalog Sale. While it's tempting to dream about cashing out and buying an island at 27, it's really important to know how these agreements happen, how much they're worth and when you may *actually* be ready for one in the first place. In the first part of our Catalog Sale mini-series, Laura details her experience selling her first catalog including timing, finding the right buyer and the importance of financial independence in the ne...

May 13, 202455 minSeason 3Ep. 28

Jaren Johnston: Commercial Songwriter, But Keep It Dirty

Songwriter & lead singer of The Cadillac Three, Jaren Johnston ("5 Foot 9" Tyler Hubbard, "Raise Em Up" Keith Urban feat. Eric Church, "Meanwhile Back At Mama's" Tim McGraw) knows how to pull a heartstring but can not help but put his southern rock energy into his songs. With a rock essence you can clearly sense from his contribution to the country genre, Jaren helps pull our platform somewhere new AND classic at the the same time. This episode covers subjects like how to exude confidence wi...

May 06, 20241 hr 18 minSeason 3Ep. 27

REPLAY: You Don’t Suck, It Just Takes A Minute

Big Machine Music general manager (and Laura’s publisher) Mike Molinar joins the podcast to talk about his philosophy on songwriter-publisher relationships. Mike shares his advice to young songwriters, the nitty-gritty of publishing deals, and how understanding the structure of those deals is the vital to your success. Mike Molinar brings over twenty-five years of experience as a music publisher and advocate for creatives to lead the publishing vertical of HYBE America and the sister company of ...

Apr 29, 20241 hr 11 minSeason 3Ep. 26

Mike Elizondo: What Hospitality, Humility & Curiosity Looks Like

Songwriter, producer, and multi-instrumentalist, Mike Elizondo ("In da Club" 50 Cent, "The Real Slim Shady" Eminem, "Cowboy Casanova" Carrie Underwood, The Encanto Soundtrack with Lin-Manuel Miranda) is simply synonymous with modern music. The trio sits down with Mike to discuss his studio environment and energy, and how it puts his co-creators at ease, and at what points in his career he had to stand up for his value. This episode also goes into detail about the difference between a track guy a...

Apr 22, 20241 hr 26 minSeason 3Ep. 25

(Song)writer's Block, Suffering for Your Art & Where Ideas Might Be Hiding

What’s blocking you? This week, the trio discusses this ironic possibility: it might be that you’re taking this dream job a little too seriously. We all do it! At all stages, in fact. Take breaks, change the subject, nerd out on other people’s hits, or do songwriter exercises— Laura discussed many of her favorite ways to shake her brain loose. This episode also covers whether you need to suffer for your art— many people believe they do. Listen for our take on that and other tips on feeling like ...

Apr 15, 20241 hr 11 minSeason 3Ep. 5

Jessie Jo Dillon: Fomo, Envy & The Joy of Writing Songs

On this week’s episode, Laura, Tracy & Kevin sit down with one of Laura’s best friends, critically acclaimed hit songwriter, Jessie Jo Dillon (“10,000 Hours” Dan & Shay, Justin Beiber, “Halfway To Hell” Jelly Roll, “Lies, Lies, Lies” Morgan Wallen). The group gets candid about shaking off the resistance to following in her legendary dad’s songwriter footsteps, the dangers of not being happy for your peers, and the difference between fomo and jealousy. Jessie Jo is an incredible resource ...

Apr 08, 20241 hr 12 minSeason 3Ep. 4

Millions Of Ways A Perfect Song Can Die (That Have Nothing To Do With The Songwriter)

Songwriters always blame themselves (or the song) when something stops the process of it becoming a hit. But does it have anything to do with the song? Most of the time, IT DOES NOT. On this week’s episode, the trio discusses how many people and entities cause those interruptions and all of the millions of ways a perfect song can end up in a proverbial trash can. It feels like injustice! It feels like agony! But in the end, it’s just a part of the songwriter business. This is an important listen...

Apr 01, 20241 hr 21 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Allison Veltz Cruz: Sisters, Dusty Prayers & Why Nashville

Laura’s sister and fellow hit songwriter, Allison Veltz Cruz (“Prayed For You” Matt Stell, “Somebody Like That” Tenille Arts, “Let Your Boys Be Country” Jason Aldean) joins the trio for a candid conversation about the sisters’ unique childhood and what lead them to songwriting after their family band broke up. They discuss Allison’s particular brand of hustle, how her personality informed her initial money management style, and what drew her to Nashville. Listen to Allison’s music on Spotify: ht...

Mar 25, 20241 hr 12 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Season Three-ever begins! Let's Talk Commerciality: Taking Your Songs From Your Bedroom To Billboard

Kevin, Laura and Tracy delve into the initial humility that it takes to learn the craft of commercial songwriting by unlearning how you did it before. Ouch! It takes a minute and it feels weird for a bit, but it gets better! After the craft settles in, your uniqueness returns to you and THAT is when the magic happens. The trio discuss the intricate art of communicating to a larger audience, the joy of being behind the scenes, and remaining a student as music evolves. Learn more about your ad cho...

Mar 18, 20241 hr 4 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Ashley Gorley: In A League Of His Own

Ashley Gorley has a literal bajillion hits. He’s also got a thriving publishing company in Tape Room Music. With so much success it’s easy to overlook the fact that it took Ashley eleven years to score his first hit. But thanks to his deep connection to the community and the key investment from mentors, Ashley was prepared to ride it out. It also helped that his early measures of success consisted of little more than writing “songwriter” on his tax forms and having working air conditioning. Lear...

Mar 11, 20241 hr 14 minSeason 2Ep. 10

STEALING! How To Fix A Small Problem Before It Becomes A Big Ass Problem

What is stealing anyway? In the songwriting world, there are a million ways it can happen. Sometimes (but rarely) it’s quite blatant, and sometimes it’s as innocent as forgetting you wrote the same concept in a different room two years ago. The fact is, it happens. There can be big consequences that can tank your reputation and your finances, but all of it is pretty much avoidable if handled right. This week, Laura lays down a few simple rules to keep you out of proverbial songwriter jail and ma...

Mar 04, 20241 hr 7 minSeason 2Ep. 9

Emily Weisband: Breaking Up With Your Soul Sucking Artist Dream

Emily Weisband (“Thy Will” Hillary Scott, “Boy With Luv” BTS, “Can’t Break Up Now” Old Dominion & Megan Moroney) is one of those people who just billows talent. Even though she moved to Nashville to become a songwriter, it didn’t take any time at all before people started trying to convince her that she should do “the artist thing.” This episode covers a topic that plagues so many of us and Emily articulates beautifully how tricky it is to navigate. If you’re a songwriter out there wondering...

Feb 26, 20241 hr 32 minSeason 2Ep. 8

The Money Episode: To Spend Or Not To Spend (More Specifically, How Not To Spend)

So, you just scored your first hit song! Time to buy a boat, a big house and that Rolex you’ve been eyeing, right? Not so fast. You can still have fun, but it might be a minute before the next big one comes around so let’s breathe and do some future planning. This week the gang breaks down what a “hit” actually means, how much it might be worth and how to manage the money it makes you properly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 19, 202457 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Joe Ragosta: You Know, Elvis Didn’t Write That

Joe Ragosta scored his first big hit (“Need A Favor” Jellyroll) just a few weeks before this episode was recorded. Joe brings big energy to the writing room and any other room he walks into. It’s that energy that has propelled Joe through years of slogging it out on the road with bands, commuting to Nashville from Long Island, and securing writes with one of the best bluffs we’ve ever heard. Strap in y'all, this is a fun one. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 12, 20241 hr 12 minSeason 2Ep. 6

Habits Scale Up! The Basics of Managing Money As A Small Business Owner

Laura, Tracy and Kevin expand on the idea that even if you have a publishing deal, you're still very much the sole proprietor of your own business. Tracy gives a tutorial on how to divide up your income so that when tax day comes, you have all your bases covered. He also lays out some best practices for avoiding debt, systematic saving and maintaining a realistic viewpoint of your financial progress. Laura gives a play by play on how all this money stuff feels in real time from songwriter’s pers...

Feb 05, 202456 minSeason 2Ep. 5

Kelly Archer: Canadian Nice With An Excellent Bluff

Kelly Archer (“Sleep Without You” Brett Young, “Wild As Her” Corey Kent, “Somebody Else Will” Justin Moore) explains what it’s like to write songs in Nashville before and after becoming a U.S. Citizen. Tricky! Kelly's story is a wild one with high stakes and time limits, making her one of Nashville’s most steadfast and determined songwriters. This episode covers writing songs on work visas and how that intertwines with being signed to publishing deals. Kelly sets a shining example for songwriter...

Jan 29, 20241 hr 34 minSeason 2Ep. 4

Award Show Ashmord Shmow… Let's Talk About Expectations!

This episode highlights one of the easiest ways to ruin what could otherwise be a really fun and fulfilling career choice: expectations. The trio talk awards and the impact they can have on your career, finances and mental health. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 22, 20241 hr 5 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Jordan Schmidt: From Salad Boy to Nashville Heavy Hitter

Jordan Schmidt ("wait in the truck" HARDY & Lainey Wilson, "God's Country" Blake Shelton, "What Ifs” Kane Brown) talks to Laura and Tracy about his journey from producing rock bands in Minnesota, to getting in on the ground floor of Florida Georgia Line’s publishing company, Tree Vibez Music, all the way to writing smashes for Jason Aldean, Blake Shelton and Kane Brown. This candid conversation covers a few particular challenges that a lot of professional songwriters deal with; i.e. being ba...

Jan 15, 20241 hr 2 minSeason 2Ep. 2

We're Back! Let's Get Into Publishing Deals

Laura, Tracy and Kevin kick off Season 2 by diving head first where we left off in season one: publishing deals. Specifically, the gang gets into what a publishing deal actually is and the relationship between publisher and songwriter. They break down why a draw feels like a salary (but isn't!), the subtle art of calendar management, and how money flows once a song gets out there in the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 08, 202455 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Lori McKenna: Stumbling Into Greatness, Mother Of Us All

Lori McKenna became a songwriter almost by accident. In this episode she joins Laura and Tracy to talk about her super unusual entrance into the Nashville music scene. Lori details how Faith Hill heard and recorded several of her songs before she had a publishing deal, how she balances living in Boston and working in Nashville, and why no expectations are the best expectations. Over the last three decades, as she became a wife and mother of five, Lori McKenna has also emerged as one of the most ...

May 15, 202355 minSeason 1Ep. 10

You Don’t Suck, It Just Takes A Minute

Big Machine Music general manager (and Laura’s publisher) Mike Molinar joins the podcast to talk about his philosophy on songwriter-publisher relationships. Mike shares his advice to young songwriters, the nitty-gritty of publishing deals, and how understanding the structure of those deals is the vital to your success. Mike Molinar brings over twenty-five years of experience as a music publisher and advocate for creatives to lead the publishing vertical of HYBE America and the sister company of ...

May 08, 20231 hr 9 minSeason 1Ep. 9

Luke Dick: There’s Nobody Like Luke Dick

Luke Dick joins Laura and Tracy for a candid and sprawling look at money, songwriting, creativity and family. Luke’s winding path has led him through academics, warehouse jobs, an artist deal, songwriting, producing, and movie-making. Ultimately he’s emerged as one of the most unique and sought-after songwriter/producers in Nashville. His approach to money puts creativity front and center. His humor and vulnerability make him one of the most engaging guests on the show so far. Luke Dick was rais...

May 01, 20231 hrSeason 1Ep. 8

How To Break Up With A Co-Writer

Break-ups are never easy, especially when it comes to co-writing. This week, our hosts examine the reasons it may be necessary to say goodbye to a collaborator and how to do it with care. The trio also talks about the virtues of Nashville’s even split policy, writing non-exclusionary lyrics, and what to do when you feel like your songs are getting worse. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 24, 20231 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 7

Andy Albert: Determination, Drive & The Infamous Mouse House

This week, Laura and Tracy are joined by songwriter Andy Albert. He details his humble beginnings in Nashville living with multiple roommates in a run-down house, struggling to get a publishing deal and nearly throwing in the towel. Spoiler alert: he sticks it out eventually scores a bunch of hits. Though his success is inspiring on its own, his openness about the difficult times makes this one of the most relatable interviews yet. Andy Albert is a Nashville-based singer/songwriter originally fr...

Apr 17, 20231 hr 2 minSeason 1Ep. 6

My Heroes Waited Tables Too

This in this episode, Laura, Tracy and Kevin continue down the path of the new-to-town songwriter. The trio digs into the importance of giving and receiving criticism, the beauty of an imperfect writers round performance and the many virtues of cowriting. Tracy shares how his gig at a bike shop lead to joining the band Bare Jr. and Laura tells the story of the time a publisher calling her “chicken sh*t” saved her from pursuing the wrong career in the music business. Learn more about your ad choi...

Apr 10, 20231 hr 9 minSeason 1Ep. 5

Luke Laird: Beatboxing, Songwriter Rounds & Quality Mentorship

In this episode, Laura and Tracy sit down with songwriter, producer and publisher Luke Laird. Luke talks the magic of writers’ rounds, being reluctant to ask for help, letting go of jealousy and the nitty gritty details of his early publishing deals. Laura also shares the story of a pivotal moment that lead to her being a songwriter. Ferocious talent, wit, and sincere humility rarely come together like they do in Grammy winner Luke Laird. Since moving to Nashville from a small farming town in Pe...

Apr 03, 20231 hr 1 minSeason 1Ep. 4

DON'T Fake It Til You Make It

In this episode, Laura, Tracy and Kevin dive deep into the first chapter of a songwriter’s career. They discuss the no-no’s that tempt young songwriters like sliding into hit songwriters’ DMs, meeting with a publisher before they’re ready and spending money they don’t have. Laura also breaks down the dangers of having a hit too early, protecting your self esteem, and how faking it until you make it is not the move. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 27, 20231 hr 13 minSeason 1Ep. 3

Jimmy Robbins: Record Deals, Old Lady’s Attics & “Overnight” Success

Jimmy Robbins’ career in music has been a winding road. From getting signed to a record deal at 17, to making jingles to afford Christmas gifts, to scoring five #1 hits in 18 months, to becoming a publisher, his path has been anything but typical. In this episode, he sits down with Laura and Tracy to talk bad deals, imposter syndrome, misconceptions about writing up, and why he’s more than a “track guy.” Jimmy Robbins is a CMA + ACM Award winning, Grammy nominated Nashville-based songwriter, pro...

Mar 20, 20231 hr 5 minSeason 1Ep. 2

You Have To Start Somewhere

The path of the songwriter is full of uncertainty. It comes with highs and lows creatively, socially, and financially. That kind of shaky ground can lead to all kinds of anxiety and decisions that leave you questioning everything. This podcast is made for songwriters or those on a creative journey who might need a little encouragement and sound financial advice. In the first episode, you’ll meet our hosts: veteran songwriter Laura Veltz, financial advisor Tracy Hackney, and producer Kevin Sokoln...

Mar 13, 20231 hr 13 minSeason 1Ep. 1
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