You know what's unsettling thinking about how easy it would be to push the nuclear button, you know, the one, the big red button. Nukes go flying and millions of people instantaneously evaporate. You know you shouldn't, but you still kind of want to push it. It's right there, that button. Button.
Pushing it gets so much easier to talk of how many tens of millions of deaths are acceptable when one is removed from it.
This guy gets it, the idea that a simple flinch of a presidential finger could cause so much destruction. It feels too easy, too clean. Okay, there's not really a big red button. That's a myth. The truth is the nuclear war plans live in a briefcase that follows the US president wherever they go. The codes are always on hand, written on a small card in the president's pocket, like your gym membership card. You've always got it on you
and you never use it. But it's still relatively easy, because the process of launching a nuclear weapon is still a million miles removed from the real cost millions of human lives. In the nineteen eighties, people were pondering this problem, how to make the weight of pushing that button just a little bit heavier. People like Roger Fisher.
Roger Fisher, who is a law professor at Harvard I can't remember which, had a fantasy about how one could overcome this button pushing distance.
Fisher was a professor at Harvard, not Yale, but anyway, he proposed an idea. What if he said, the nuclear codes weren't in a briefcase. What if the codes were actually in a little capsule, and that capsule was buried in the chest of a volunteer, let's call him Fred. Instead of carrying around the briefcase with the codes inside, imagine Fred carrying around a big, heavy butcher knife.
And if the President needed the codes, he would have to retrieve them from the volunteer and would hand the President tonight Fred.
I'm sorry, buddy, but I gotta heck your chest open. Fred's freaking out. The Commander in Chief is forced to then physically butcher good old Fred with his own hands in order to then kill millions.
When he told this to his friends in the Pentagon, they were aghast. Blood on the White House carpet. They said he might never push the.
Button precisely, much to his dismay. Roger Fisher's fantasy was just that earth destroying power still rests in a briefcase that follows the president wherever they go. To me. It makes the prospect of launching a nuclear weapon a terrifying psychological dilemma. What will it really take to push a man so far that he'd press that button, that he'd prompt the end of the world. I've had helms and This is Snafu, a podcast about history's greatest screw ups.
In season one, we're telling the story of Avil Archer eighth, the nineteen eighty three NATO military exercise that became a snafu so gigantic, so absurd, so terrifying that it almost led to a real nuclear war. In order to trace what happened during Able Archer eighty three, we need to get to know the players at the heart of this story. This episode will follow the two powerful men behind the proverbial big red buttons, US President Ronald Reagan and Soviet
General Secretary Uri and drop Off. There are two men with political savvy, plenty of bravado, and an aptitude for mind games. The question is would they push each other to far?
How do you do?
Everybody?
Hey, there I'd like to introduce myself, please do. My name is Ronald Reagan. This was it where it all began. It's the late thirties and a young Ronald Reagan introduces himself to moviegoers in the trailer for his first film, Love Is on the Air. Even from the beginning, he had that incredible knack for making you feel like he was talking right to you through the camera.
A few months ago, I was a sports announcer on a radio station in Des.
Moines, Iowa. Back before he was charming political audiences with his good looks and brilliant smile. Ronald Reagan was a radio sports announcer in Iowa. Legend has it sometimes Reagan would lose the feed of the game while he was live on air, so he would just make up amazing plays until the feed came back. But his descriptions were so vivid audiences didn't really care whether they were hearing about a real game or not. But Reagan knew his
face was too pretty for radio. He wanted Hollywood. In nineteen thirty seven, he got the break he was looking for.
One day, I ran into one of these movie talent scots. I think I caught him off guard. Because the next thing I knew, I was taking a screen test for Warner Brothers in Hollywood.
His career didn't exactly take off like a rocket, but he was working, got some good roles in smaller films. He even got to play a guy whose legs were amputated by an angry small town doctor. Good stuff. After a few years, it seemed like Reagan was finally headed for the A List, until a World war inconveniently disrupted his path.
Some bust some nineteen forty one, a date which will live in infamy.
The World War two draft called up young, able bodied American men, including the famous ones. Even Jimmy Stewart went off to fly bombers in the war. But Ronald Well, he left Hollywood to go nowhere. Yeah, no, he didn't actually leave Hollywood at all. Instead of fighting the war on the front line, he filmed propaganda and training videos for the army at a movie studio in Culver City, California. To be fair, the four or five and the ten intersection is the closest I've ever seen to a war zone.
But I digress.
So he serves out his time. The war ends, and he is very disappointed that the fighting has non fixed the world.
This is journalist Seth Rosenfeld. He says that at this point in time, Reagan's life wasn't going so well. His relationship was falling apart, his career was faltering, and he was looking for a new sense of purpose.
One night, there's a knock on his door, his home nineteen forty six, and two FBI agents are standing there and they say they have some information that he might be interested in.
They came one of some findings from me on people that I had dealt with and so forth.
By this time, Reagan was a vice president of the Screen Actors Guild, and the FBI came knocking, Hey, Ronald, we could use your help.
This is about spies of savagers. We're sure. As a former military man, you know all about that.
Calling Reagan a military man was a bit much. It's like calling doctor Pepper a member of the medical establishment. But you know, I mean, come on, they were buttering him up. The FBI thought Hollywood communists were brainwashing the American public by sneaking pro communist propaganda into movies. At first, Reagan said no thanks, He wasn't interested in what he called red baiting. But then the FBI said.
We think you're going to want to hear what some of these people are saying about you.
Basically, the Communis are talking about you behind your back.
Well, that got his attention.
And there right on his doorstep, Reagan got his shot at patriotic glory. The FBI offered him a chance to enlist in the world's next great conflict, the war against the Communists.
After that meeting, he agreed to become an FBI and former. He did provide information about colleagues and people who he suspected were Unamerican in some way.
As it happens, the FBI's communist plot story was a bit exaggerated.
There's really no evidence that anything like that ever happened.
Sure, there were people in Hollywood who called themselves communists, and it's not at all surprising that some of their politics zeeped into their work. But these weren't national traders in contact with Soviet agents. There was no coordinated plot. But that wasn't Reagan's takeaway.
I never got over realizing that I could recognize the signs.
Reagan wasn't just convinced that communists were his enemies. He started to believe that every one of his enemies were Communists. If someone was against him, it was a sign they were a pinko for sure. And here's where things get a little weirder.
Not only was Reagan reporting on somebody who he suspected somehow might be a communist or a Communist sympathizer, but he was also reporting on people he didn't like.
Get in an argument with Ron at a meeting, snub and at a party, maybe write a bad review for his chimpanzee movie. You just got yourself blacklisted. It wasn't just Reagan. Everyone was ratting each other out. There were hearings, public shamings. People were prevented from ever working in Hollywood again. Some even ended up serving time in prison.
It did give me a real understanding of the communist menace.
If you asked Reagan, he was fighting the good fight. He was an American hero. Fast forward to the mid fifties, Reagan's acting career was sputtering a little, which meant maybe it was time for a career change, perhaps a leap from the silver screen to the political podium. Reagan versus the Communists coming soon to a political stage near you.
I'll thank you very much.
A group of prominent party members came to me before the nineteen sixty six governorace in California and claimed that I was the only one who could bring the party together and win the election.
California millionaires, we're looking for a new candidate, and they didn't have an obvious one. But they saw him, and they saw how he appealed to audiences.
This is Frankie Fitzgerald. She literally wrote the book on Reagan and nukes.
They knew they didn't have to worry too much about what he actually thought about because he was a good actor. He would just he would do what people wanted him to do.
But they kept after Still. Pretty soon Nancy and I couldn't sleep. We thought, well, what if they're right, then we live with ourselves if we keep saying no.
Pretty soon, the Hollywood actor Ronald Reagan was the governor of California, with his sight set on the White House.
The distinguished guest here and you ladies in gentlemen who I know are looking for a cause around which to rally and which I believe we can give them.
Running for president in nineteen eighty, Reagan gave Americans causes to rally around, all right, and In so doing, he permanently altered the character of the Republican Party.
He didn't have much a support at that point nationally, but he went for the South, and the South had just turned Republican.
His opponent was Jimmy Carter, the incumbent Democrat, who was really more of a centriest. So in order to capture votes, Reagan needed to move to the right, far to the right. His main thing was Reaganomics, tax cuts, bounced budget, trickle down economics, all that, and in order to sell the policy, he needed a villain, and you could be pretty sure it wouldn't be Wall Street.
In Chicago, they found a woman who holds the record. She used eighty names, thirty addresses, fifteen telephone numbers to collect food Stamps, social Security, veterans, benefits for four non existent deceased veterans' husbands, as well as welfare.
Her tax free cash.
Income alone has been running one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year.
Now, this little anecdote, while tethered to an actual person, is deeply embellished, and worse, Reagan is using it to sell a larger myth that is complete horseshit that welfare queens were running rampant in US society. It was racist, and this myth has never really gone away. It's a nasty old political trick, scaring the voters straight into the voting booth. And when it came to the Cold War, Ronald Reagan saw an opportunity for a new villain, one he knew very well, the Communists.
So that was when Reagan began to move to the right on national security issues.
Reagan did take a very strong life line on building up US defenses.
That's nuclear expert Jeffrey Lewis.
Reagan was hawkish in a way that alarmed not just Democrats but many mainline Republicans.
Reagan was hawkish, but he didn't actually want to fight a nuclear war. In the same breath that he spoke about building more weapons, he always talked about how awful a nuclear war would be. He said he dreamed of a day with no nuclear weapons. A bit confusing, I know, but the idea was this, in order to maintain mad mutually assured destruction, the US needed to match the Soviet's nuclear strength. That would be the only way to keep us all safe. And that's what's known as peace through strength.
Reagan really painted himself as a person who was going to be strong and who was going to stand up to the Soviet Union in a way that Jimmy Carter did not.
In reality, Jimmy Carter was not at all soft on the Soviets. I mean, this is the president who pulled the US out of the Moscow Olympics. He wouldn't even share the beauty of rhythmic gymnastics with the Soviets. But the truth didn't really matter. Reagan had a political story to sell. The evil communists, You're threatening the American way of life, and we're too weak to stop them. Hey, vote for me.
Somewhere along the ways, a fantasy got mixed up with reality. That is to say, if you're an actor, it does to some degree.
Oouch, Frankie, that hurts, But I guess it's fair. I still think The Hangover is a documentary, and do not try to convince me otherwise.
Well, the time has come.
Ronald Wilson Reagan of California, a sports announcer.
Of film actor.
We have projected Ronald Reagan the winner. You hear the subtle incredulity in his voice. How about a little less subtle incredulity.
Who's President of the United States in nineteen eighty five, Ronald Reagan.
Ronald Reagan, the actor.
Suffice to say, Doc wasn't the only person who was surprised over Moscow. The Soviets were trying to get a read on this new Hollywood president, but they also had their hands full with a leadership shakeup of their own.
Good evening. Leonid Brezhnev, the Soviet Communist Party leader and president, died yesterday morning of a heart attack, but the news was.
Not in The Soviet Union. Nineteen eighty two ended with the bang of a coffin. Lid Reshnev was dead and his successor emerged from the shadows.
Yuri Andropov, former chief of the KGB or secret police, was named chairman of the funeral committee, possibly a sign that he could succeed as party leader.
When Leonid Brezhnev died at the end of nineteen eighty two, Yuri and Dropoff, former head of the KGB, stepped up to become the leader of the Soviet Union. Yeah, the head of the KGB took over that KGB mm hmm Russian secret beliefs Political assassinations midnight arrests, domestic surveillance, ring a bell. So believe me when I say the news of and Dropoff's appointment sent a chill up every spine in Washington. Suddenly everyone was scrambling to learn something, anything,
about their new adversary. But the stories that were emerging about and drop Off, they were all over the fucking place. Some said he spent his youth as a boatman or a film projectionist. Others say Stalin almost killed him in the Soviet Purge, or that he was the mastermind behind the Berlin Wall, or that he plotted the death of the Pope. It was difficult to get a sense of him, to figure out what was true biography and what was lore.
What people were left with were mostly just photographs. His icy white hair was always combed back just so, the thick black rim of his glasses kind of merging with his wily eyebrows. His face always entirely expressionless, not giving a damn thing away about what he's thinking. So, when it comes down to it, as you might expect from mkagb Man, Urian Dropov was a total mystery.
Urian Dropov is I think one of the most interesting Soviet leaders.
This is Simon Miles, a Cold War historian.
So and Dropov was definitely a man of the system. As we say, he started his career in the party and he finished his career in the party.
It was actually more complicated than it sounds, because throughout the middle of the twentieth century the party was constantly shape shifting, as were its rules, norms, and expectations. So to remain in the party's good graces for so many years was a feat all its own.
He's a remarkable man. I read his speeches very carefully. He managed always to be a centrist, whatever it meant to be a centrist at that particular moment. A great master of political maneuver.
And Dropoff rose through the ranks of Soviet politics, slowly gaining more and more power and eventually demonstrating a particular talent for brutal policing.
You became head of the KGB in nineteen sixty seven.
This is historian Douglas Salvag who specializes in the history of Soviet secret police and propaganda.
Once Andropov took over the KGB, he began to issue new regulations, push for new laws, new ways to prosecute people for anti Soviet agitation or propaganda.
As head of the KGB, it was like in drop Off became a twisted Soviet Santa. Through his staggering surveillance network. He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good. So, holy shit, you better be good. This was a naughty list you did not want to be on.
He actually created a new division within the KGB responsible practically just for suppressing internal dissent. I was especially dealing with intellectuals or people who had contacts to Western journalists of the West.
One story goes that when he was hiring someone new for his KGB office, he didn't bother to interview anyone. One candidate said, let me tell you about myself, to which and drop Off replied, my dear boy, what makes you think I don't already know everything about you? Yeah, the British accent's mine. I was taking creative license. I just thought it sounded more kind of like a movie villain, because that's kind of what he is, right, I mean,
this dude was freaking scary. All you had to do was sing the wrong protest song and you'd get scooped up by and drop Offs trash collectors.
He is having Soviet dissidents sent to statemental facilities.
Of course, if you're diagnosed with there's this special diagnosis sluggish schizophrenia, it's very is even harder to get out of a mental hospital than to get out of prison.
He was a perpetrator of some really horrible.
Things, and yet in nineteen eighty two, as he stepped into the role of Soviet leader, rumors began floating around about and drop Off that he loved Western art, literature, folk music, a real renaissance man.
So at the same time as he's sending these people to statemental facilities, he's happily sitting around a fireside in the Caucasus Mountains with the head of the local Communist party, singing their songs and playing them on a guitar and roasting sausages on sticks and things like that.
There seems to be some controversy about Andropoff. There's a suggestion that some of his political aids leaked through the Western press what some are calling disinformation about his being a closet liberal. A man who likes Western art is a very urbane intellectual. What is your review of him.
Part of it is the complexity of the man himself. I think complexity that's the best they could do on Goods back in nineteen eighty two, throw their hands up in the air and just kind of shrug goes the show. When it comes to and drop Off, everything you learn about him should have an asterisk and a little footnote that says maybe.
And drop Off is ultimately a mystery in this because he turns out to be an old sick man dying.
Oh yeah, one more thing you should know about Uri and drop Off. When he became the leader of the Soviet Union, he was practically on his deathbed from kidney failure.
Keep in mind, if you complained about the Soviet Union too much, he'd probably have you and your family murdered.
But yes, he'd kill you then sing songs at your funeral permission. Did not feel bad for him. So here's where we are. In one corner, we've got Ronald Reagan, newly elected American cowboy who does not keep his distaste for the Communists on the down low, campaigned on the promise of building more weapons. And in the other corner, Yuri and drop Off, who nobody really knows anything about except for the fact that he likes to squash dissidence and he's dying of kidney failure. I'd buy a ticket
to this fight. That's right ed. The atmosphere is elect We've been waiting nearly forty years to see these two sluggers enter the ring. Who's gonna land the first punch? Well, that's anyone's guess. One thing we should probably get out of the way. This nuclear missile standoff is basically just a big dick measuring contest. I'm not being crass. This is an idea straight out of academia. A young professor named Carol Kohane wrote about it in the early eighties.
She said that US defense intellectuals, the guys who literally shape our nuclear policy, talked about nuclear war in a way that was overtly erotic. Nations without nukes were called virgins. They talked about the creamy foam of mushroom clouds. Nuclear blasts were called orgasmic womps. I'm not joking, And according to Carol, apparently the men kept touching the bombs, like stroking them, even asking her, Hey, Carol, do you want to touch it? It sounds like harassment, but Carol says
they were totally unaware of the innuendo. Honestly, to me, it sounds like a bad stand up routine. It is at the peak of the arms race, nuclear weapons became a very unsubtle metaphor for one's manhood, which made nuclear policy awfully susceptible to the good old fashioned inferiority complex.
When Reagan comes into office, and this is where the Worscare comes in.
He has this very part.
Is an idea that the US is week and the Soviets are strong, and we have to fix that.
Oh yeah, Reagan's campaign message that a whole thing about Soviet strength and American weakness. It's totally and utterly incorrect. Let me take a big highlighter to that. Because this is the first domino. It's this misunderstanding that sets us up for the real clusterfuck. In November nineteen eighty three, the United States was never behind the Soviet Union in military capability. In fact, the Soviet economy wasn't doing great.
The military was broke and their equipment was in total disrepair. But Reagan was running for president and candidates always ramp up the rhetoric. Of course, now that he is president. Surely he'll get the real end. Tell he'll realize the Soviets are not an actual threat and cool down all this talk about building more bombs.
Right, Ronald Reagan, having campaigned on being tough, is not going to stand up and say, oh, that was just for the cameras. I'm actually an old softy I love borsh.
He's not gonna do that.
He truly believes that the Soviets are strong and we are weak, and he has to restore his strength.
And then drop Off, trained to be paranoid, assumes that Reagan must be up to something.
And I think when he hears Reagan talking about how the Soviet Union is strong in America's week and America has to get stronger, and drop Off knows it's the other way around, and he thinks that Reagan is lying, right, that Reagan is deliberately distorting the truth in order to exploit the Soviet Union's weakness.
In order to gain public support for building more bombs, which, of course at the Soviets wondering why does Reagan want all these bombs so badly?
And they don't see Reagan as as bringing the US up to their level. They see Reagan as pushing past them. And it's really in that context right where you have those two totally different views of what the hell is happening, that you get the war scare.
Ladies and gentlemen. That is a pissing contest, except in this case the piss is radioactive and the pissers are shooting completely in the dark, and we're all in the crosshairs getting a very deadly golden shower. If it's possible to take a metaphor too far, we might have done it. And what's about to happen next, it's only gonna make things worse. I think it's time for that day after
Scream again. When and drop off in Reagan came into power, they weren't just on different pages, they were reading from entirely different books. Arms negotiations were closed, but a Chili cold war relationship does not necessarily a nuclear crisis make. In order for things to spiral out of control during nineteen eighty three's Able Archer Exercise, things needed to get a lot hotter, and they did.
I was born in Hungary. My father was in the Soviet military, so we moved a lot.
This is Svetlana Sovereignskaya I.
Work at the National Security Archive as director of Russia Program and senior analyst.
Svetlana works in DC now, but she grew up in the Soviet Union, where she was constantly told that the United States was a threat that they could attack at any time.
My father was very devoted Communist, like he actually believed seriously. I remember when I began asking questions about nuclear weapons and possibility of war much later in maybe in high school. He was always saying that, well, of course, we have to defend ourselves. So I get into Moscow State University and I am very, very excited.
Svedlana's first year of university was you guessed it, nineteen eighty three.
In the universities in Moscow, you had mandatory military preparation. So one day a week we would have a complete military immersion day. You would wear a military uniform, go to a separate place, and you take military courses.
It wasn't all marching to Tchaikowsky. Periodically, Svetlana and her comrades would do nuclear drills, practice what to do if the Americans launched nuclear weapons. At the Soviet Union, sirens would blare and the students would file into lines. And head straight for the bunkers.
We had a civil defense system underground.
Bunkers were meticulously scattered throughout the country so that in case of a nuclear attack, Soviet citizens could survive.
So we practiced it regularly, like once a month, we had to go to the nuclear shelter.
So Vetlana says the walk from her university to the bunker was about ten to fifteen minutes. So if the United States launched a missile and the Soviets sounded the alarms.
It takes suty minutes for a ballistic missile to get to Moscow, and under suity minutes you can walk leisurely to your shelter.
I don't know how leisurely I'd be walking in that situation, but I take her point. A secret CIA report from the late seventies said that there were only enough bunkers to save about twenty percent of the Moscow population if American intelligence was right, But they did expect most of these shelters to actually work. Anyone inside would survive a nuclear blast. But then, as Atlanta tells it, the bunker chatter started to get a little more tense.
Over the summer. The relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union really got from bad to worse. There was a discussion of how the danger is rising, the United States is becoming more and more aggressive. We could see that there was also very genuine concern among these military guys, especially after the deployments started.
The deployments so of Atlanta is talking about are the five hundred and seventy two shiny new missiles being installed in western Europe by NATO, the Pershing twos and the ground launched cruise missiles. The Persiing twos were little and lightweight, at just over thirty feet long. They were highly maneuverable and fast. And then there were the ground launched cruise missiles aka Glickams. They were designed to fly low to
the ground, underneath radar, capable of delivering seriously big booms. Now, these new missiles would be nicknamed the euro missiles because they would be installed in Europe very close to Soviet territory. Now, if NATO wanted to attack the Soviet Union, the missile flight times would be a lot faster, disastrously faster.
So our military officers explained to us one day, your civil defense arrangement is useless because now with the Persians in Europe. It takes under ten minutes. They said, it takes seven minutes for them to hit Moscow.
Seven minutes, which means if it took Svetlana ten minutes to get to her bunker.
There's no use anymore of going running. They had this joke. Now, if you hear the alarm, your training should be you cover yourself with white sheet and lay your head away from the nuclear blasts.
Woo very dark joke. Starting to understand why Russia is known for ballet and not comedy.
Really, for the first time in my life, I felt like there could be nuclear war.
To be clear, the threat to deploy these new euro missiles was a negotiation tactic during the Carter years before Reagan ever set foot in the Oval Office, because the Soviets had missiles too, enough to bomb all of Europe if they felt so inclined. So European leaders felt exposed. They said they would also like a light sprinkling of missiles on their side of the border, thank you very much.
Thus the Cruise and Pershing twos. But in reality, the prospect of these missiles being deployed was only intended to be a threat back off or we'll bring in some nukes. But when Ronald Reagan entered office, he and the NATO chiefs made good on that threat. The deployment was scheduled for November nineteen eighty three, the exact same time as NATO's annual Able Archer exercise.
The Nuclear Freeze movement was a grassroots movement that wanted to de escalate the nuclear arms race.
Seth Rosenfeld again. Seth says, after the announcement of the euro missiles, people all over the world took to the streets in protest. They thought Reagan was being irresponsible by pointing even more weapons at the Soviets, and they put pressure on Congress to cut Reagan's defense spending, and of course Reagan didn't like that.
Reagan actually made an allegation that the Nuclear Freeze movement was just another Communist plot to weaken America.
Yep. Reagan believed that the Soviets were brainwashing people all to orchestrate a massive nuclear cock block. And by now Ronnie knew exactly what to do when a communist plot was afoot. He got on stage.
So I'm delighted to be here today.
It's now March third, nineteen eighty three. We're t minus eight months to able Archer and Reagan's in sunny Orlando, Florida to deliver a speech.
Number of years ago, I heard a young father saying, I love my little girls more than anything, and I would rather see my little girls die now still believing in God, than have them grow up under communism and one day die no longer believing in God.
Oh okay, that's pretty weird for a crowd to cheer on a father wishing for the death of his children. But the audience was the National Association of Evangelicals, and I think it's safe to say they believing in God. Pretty seriously, say what you want about Reagan. The guy knew his crowd. With the nuclear freeze movement on Reagan's back. He needed to remind the public why his military build
up was necessary. He needed to remind them who the enemy was, like he'd done a million times before, but this time he would go a little too far.
So let us pray for the salvation of all of those who live in that totalitarian darkness. They preached the supremacy of the state, declare it's omnipotence over individual man, and predict its eventual domination of all peoples on the earth.
The next words out of Reagan's mouth are a critical turning point in our able Archer story. If all this nuclear tension was already soaked and gasoline, you might say Reagan was about to light a fucking match.
They are the focus of evil in the modern world. I urge you to beware the temptation to ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire. Evil empire, evil empire.
Identity, an evil empire. Now them's fighting.
Words, and then was a shock. It was in all Russian newspapers.
To the Soviets, calling them an evil empire was a step too far, They wondered, was Ronald minuc is bigger than yours? Reagan calling them out because he was building up to an attack. Well, they wouldn't have to wonder for long.
Good evening. President Reagan today issued a formal directive to the National Security Council to begin initial research on the space Age missile defense system he proposed to the nation.
Last night, three weeks after calling the Soviet Union an evil empire, Ronald Reagan announced that he was building a new technology. He gave the public an irresistible pitch. What if the thing you're absolutely the most afraid of could suddenly vanish into thin air?
We could intercept and destroy strategic ballistic missiles before they reached our own soil or that of our allies.
He proposed a kind of magic shield, a technical innovation that would shoot down Soviet missiles from outer space. He called it the Strategic Defense Initiative acronym SDI, and he would need a massive increase in his defense budget to do it. Now, a nuclear shield sounds like a comforting thought, but you might be wondering, how the hell would you do that? Well, Reagan conveniently wrapped up his speech before offering much detail.
There will be risks, and results take time, but I believe we can do it.
In this speech, he said we're going to make nuclear weapons obsolete by building these defenses. And he didn't say what the defenses would be, really, but people then began asking all of his aids what the defenses could be, and they came out with their own view of it. Whereas everyone in both Houses of Congress and in this NOS Defense Department understood that he was talking about something that simply didn't exist, and couldn't exist.
In other words, it was bullshit fantasy. America didn't have the technology to block out thousands of incoming Soviet nukes. Hell, we still don't have that kind of technology. Reagan's opponents in Congress started calling it the star Wars program because of how obviously it was rooted in science fiction. I
got a bad feeling about this. Some scientists estimated that developing Star Wars would take thirty years and cost a million million dollars, but that didn't stop Reagan supporters from trying to sell the illusion with creepy ads like this.
I asked my daddy what the star Wars stuff is all about. He said that right now, we can't protect ourselves from nuclear weapons, and that's why the President wants to build a p shield. It would stop missiles in outer space so they couldn't hit our house.
Vain.
Nobody could win a war. Nobody could win a war. There's no reason to stab.
Anyway. All of that might have been fine, funny even if the Soviets didn't have their own interpretation of this announcement. They thought it was part of a cunning plan that sure Reagan would put satellites in space only these satellites wouldn't be used for nuclear defense. They would be used to launch nuclear weapons at the Soviet Union.
There was a certain hysteria among the Soviet leaders because what it meant to them is blitzkrieg from space, and that would create a situation where the United States would have for strike capability.
Star wars, the new missiles in Europe, and the Evil Empire speech to the Soviets. These three things added up to one conclusion. The United States was prepared a surprise nuclear attack against the Soviet Union. It was the only explanation they were certain of it. What was in drop of to do well? For one thing, he needed to see the attack before it happened. He needed eyes on the other side of the Iron Curtain, and it turns
out he had him. Next on Snaffoo, we leave the Oval Office and Kremlin to meet the spies in the field who would be forced to intervene during the able Archer crisis.
Omaka, he's preparing an.
It was moments like that that he really began to think, I need to do something about this.
I need to target the Soviet system, undermine it.
Somehow, and try and damage it somehow.
Beto was my enemy and I mean to destroy it.
I mean, this is just so hutterly crazy.
Stanley Kubrick could not invent this. SNAFU is a production of iHeartRadio, Film, Nation Entertainment, and Pacific Electric Picture Company in association with Gilded Audio. Our lead producers are Sarah Joyner and Alyssa Martino. Our producer is Carl Nellis. Associate producer Torry Smith. It's executive produced by me Ed Helms, Milan Papelka, Mike Falbo, Andy Chug, and Whitney Donaldson. This episode was written by Carl Nellis and Sarah Joyner, with
additional writing from me Elliott Kalin and Whitney Donaldson. Our senior editor is Jeffrey Lewis.
I'm actually an old softy.
Olivia Canny is our production assistant. Our creative executive is Brett Harris. Additional research and fact checking by Charles Richter, Engineering and technical direction by Nick Dooley. Original music and sound design by Dan Rosatto. Additional editing from Ben Chugg. Some archival audio from this episode originally appeared in Taylor Downing's fantastic film nineteen eighty three, The Brink of Apocalypse.
Thank You mister Downing for permission to use it. Special thanks to Alison Cohen and Matt Aisenstadt.