well hello All You Beautiful [Music] People you know what time it is ladies and gents Guys and Dolls and everyone in between gather around get you something real nice to sip on and comfy to slip on cuz it's time for smut Club here's your hosts Chelsey and [Applause] Hannah hey everybody and welcome to smut club I'm Hannah and I am Chelsea and this is the show where we um sometimes daydrink sometimes I just drink hot tea um because hydration is important yep and we review romance novels that we
read um some leave more to be desired than others um but you know each of them are their own unique journey and we respect that yep and we are going to take you on that Journey with us thanks for joining us on that Journey guys okay Hannah what book are we doing today we are doing neon Gods by Katie Roberts Katie with two e right fanc two e yes so um I read this book a while ago and I remember I liked it when I read it and then on the reread I was like um questions so I'm really interested to
see like well okay I feel like a long time ago I saw a Tik Tok where someone had been like I'm breaking down um like sex amount of sex in the book per author right um and like Katie Roberts was like by and far above like had the most sex mhm per book um which I do think the the downfall of that can sometimes be we do need plot to to carry that and I actually haven't read young Gods I've read um like the villain I've read a few the villain we did Desperate Measures and the next one after that I'd
read as well but I haven't read this one actually I think this might be the only Katie Roberts I've read oh okay um but so feel like I just hear everyone talk about her all the time yeah this one didn't feel as like sex heavy as other that I've read but it still was like the premise is awesome and like there's some really cool potential so it's Hades and pany we have a Hades and panie ret I love a good Greek mythology so but that's part of the issue is like it's we'll just get into it okay so my
notes the way that I did it I put Olympus breakdown at the top because in the first chapter our pany is at a party and she's thinking about the politics and the history of Olympus so rather than like try to put the breakdown in between the couple of plot points in the first chapter I just broke it out so we can do that ahead of time bless you for your ministry well it was just so confusing when I was trying to write it I was like so our Olympus breakdown is ruled by a group that they call the
13 so the 13 are essentially all the uh Gods right um of Greek mythology however they are not gods they are human people okay who have these roles right I see where we've shifted right so there are um there is no Hades at this point um so like the belief in Olympus it it's split between upper City and lower City the belief in the upper City city is that he's just gone and the lower city is just like having a great time nobody from the upper City ever goes there so
okay so he the assumption is that Haiti is he running the lower he's dead that's dead dead not just like okay he's dead dead so Zeus rules the 13 um and his role is a legacy and inherited so Poseidon and Hades are Al also inherited which is why there's no Hades the last Hades and his Heir were killed so Zeus and Poseidon are the only ones the others are all either elected or appointed okay so it's this weird political thing happening so Pan's mother is demer and she was elected to
the role and her responsibility is like food and trade essentially um and it's super vicious there's lots of discussion of like gossip mag magzines and websites this is modern day contemporary kind of technology so not that different from our current political structure correct it's very like is it did you get the energy that it's like meant to kind of be a commentary or I once went um to see a traveling Broadway production of Cinderella and was very surprised that they had um
changed the storyline slightly to be a very like to be their political or their commentary on our current political system um which I wasn't ready for cuz I was like I'm just going to see I know this story it's Cinderella on Broadway [ __ ] and then I got there and I was like oh this is not what I expected like still very pleasant but yeah I do feel like there's sometimes that happens with books where you're like oh I just thought we were just going to kind of
casually be reading this whatever but there's um the new Christen Ashley book um in the River Rain series definitely like they have some like political commentary on like fat shaming and Theo like so it was it was interesting cuz I was not going into it looking for that or prepared for it right it's very much like this idea that the ruling class celebrities like we don't really know them they are putting on a front for whatever gain um and they don't have any privacy and they're also all out for
themselves like they're supposed to be there for the people and whatever but it's really about their own personal power um and so Zeus has had three haras so there is no current Hera all three of his wives have died mysteriously um seems accurate for Zeus correct so now getting into the plot that we have that background um so panie and her sister psyche are at a party um and and they're kind of like hiding out they don't really want any part of any of what's going on but their mom
essentially dragged them into this life because she chose to seek power and be elected um so panie keeps thinking about I only have to do this for three more months because once she turns 25 she has access to her trust fund and she's planning to leave Olympus so it's really weird though because she's talking about I want to go to Berkeley I want to go to California and it's like where are you like where where is Olympus like is the rest of the world aware of Olympus like is it Olympia
that's in Washington no I mean the actual City not in the book like what's the name of the it is Olympia okay Washington yeah yeah yeah cuz I was like I don't think no that's always interesting when and you're like I just kind of like in my head feel like I always end up making the city there in like a Chicago or a Boston like no matter if you're telling me you're trying to get to California like I don't know why but I just always kind of end up picturing their cities
somewhere throughout the Northeast right I don't what whatever ex but exactly because it's like wait a minute like where where the hell are you and it just gets more confusing later but it's just casually like I'm going to go to Berkeley for my PhD in what who knows I already have my Master's in what we never find out we like no so she's not working no okay like her job is to be Demeter's daughter so um her mom finds her and like grabs her and like drags her through the party and she's like
what the hell is going on but she's like the sunshine happy daughter and so she like puts on the the front and she goes up and um um Zeus is super creepy and like grabs her hand and won't let go and is like an announcement to make everyone and proposes to her in front of everybody oh [ __ ] apparently her mom made a deal with Zeus for her that her daughter could be the fourth wife to mysteriously disappear correct without telling her or talking to her or warning her or anything and so she's
like oh [ __ ] because it's in front of like all of Olympus the Press is there so she's like okay she's like I'm going to die and someone who's that powerful exactly you're like you can't embarrass someone that powerful they will not it won't end well if you do no yeah oh poor girl yeah her mom is brutal I'm I'm assuming that continues throughout yeah okay yeah so like she's starting to hyperventilate like she's like flipping out so her sister is like oh hey I need to go to
the bathroom like come with me ha so they go outside and she's like I'm going to vomit like this is really really bad so she asked her sister to go inside and grab her purse and tell her mom that she's sick and she needs to go home and her sister is like we're g to figure this out like I don't know what we're going to do she has three other sisters but the one is the only one at this party she like we're going to figure this out it's going to be okay like I've got you so she leaves her and goes
inside and then panie is like I can't go home and I'm pretty sure that if I go back in that building I won't come back out and she realizes like these thoughts are extreme and not necessarily rational but they're also not completely irrational and so she's just freaking out like in the conversation of is she catastroph iing well maybe a little but also this situation isn't great no and your fears aren't entirely unfounded correct got it so she takes off she just
books it and she's in an evening gown it's the middle of winter and in high heels and she just books it through the city with no purse no purse no phone no money her sister went to get those yep so she just takes off so is there like girl wait for your phone at least well so she was like so a lot of the like central theme Here is that she's wanting to protect her sisters so she doesn't want any blowback to come on them so she knows if her sisters help her get away that they will then have
consequences well that's thoughtful it is yeah it is we haven't thought through this plan but we have at least considered the impact on others thoughtful human yes if not um thriving at self-preservation correct we love our sisters I I can get behind that um so you'd do the same for your sisters I think I would yeah we're pretty tight it's true my sister I would do the same for her I think I also have a very like kind of like your older sister who's been married for so long that you're like
it's I can't really imagine life without their partner because their partner's been around for so much of my life right but yeah I do it for her yeah well I'm just thinking like I just officiated my sister's wedding this past weekend my younger sister's wedding and um it went really well but I was super anxious about it but it turned out really well can I tell you something funny actually that happened please always so did I tell you about how she requested a
Mariah Carey quote in the you didn't but I am 0% surprised yeah so I asked what she wanted in the ceremony and her requirements were a gardening theme Danny DeVito a SpongeBob the musical quote which she sent me and a Mariah Carey quote of my choosing of your choosing of my choosing big Mariah Carey girl over here so last Christmas we were sitting around and it was totally silent like after dinner you know everybody's just like digesting in my their own business we're
tired we've been here for a while we're feeling cozy getting weing down yeah and they had on some like Christmas music station and Mariah Carey came on and my dad just goes I don't care for her just really so ever since then we just will randomly say I really don't care for Mariah Carey and so that that was the reest quest which if you know my dad that's very classically my father did your dad catch the Mariah Carey quote oh he did because did you say to quote the great
Mariah Carey literally yes I said to quote the wise and kind Mariah Carey after every storm if you look hard enough a rainbow will appear and then I pause and I went get it and I made eye contact with my sister's wife's brother who the whole weekend just kept going because gay over and over again and he like thumbs uped me get it so you're like I managed to troll my dad and get a gay joke in there I did I nailed it it was really good but like also for the record the joke was would
not be offensive to Hannah's sister who was getting married this is not like a like making a like gay joke in poor taste for I I sent her what I was going to say including the get it and pause for dramatic effect pause for laugh I sent her everything I was going to say and she approved it so yes yeah yeah so we had a good time um but I would I would do a lot I would do a lot for either one of them at my wedding my cousin officiated it and she had several people come up to
her after saying we were so nervous when we heard a woman was doing this and you really exceeded our expectations yeah well I had people comment on how I did a really great job and they were really worried that I was going to like turn it into a standup routine and I was like for the record I'm not trying to like [ __ ] up my sister's wedding right I'm like literally I was like I wore all black and tried to be as like non in anybody's face as possible because I
didn't want it to be about me and like all that [ __ ] you know and so I was like okay like what do you what do you think of me that's not the compliment you think it is right like thank you yeah I think we had really low expectations for you right and you did so much better than we thought you'd do we thought this was going to be like a Seinfeld cold open but instead you know but my dad you did it you actually married your sister off right in a way that was both funny
and moving I'm like oh but my dad was like oh I forgot I was going to bring paddles I was like what the hell are you talking about paddles he was like with numbers on them so we could hold them up to rate you during the cereem where are the napkins I can make some now yes Dad that's the way this the ceremon is going to go off without a hitch you raiding my big sister was like she's actually really nervous can you not do that right now bless it he came over and he was like does me
messing with you help or hurt I was like I don't know just keep messing with me I guess I I really appreciate that he asked that me too yeah I was like like I don't know but just keep doing it cuz it's our norm and I think if you stop it would be weird yeah if you stop it'll make a yeah just don't draw attention to it we'll get through this nobody panic okay anyway I could keep talking about that we love we love our sisters is the moral of the story and so does panie
so um like I said she books it and she realizes that she's being followed by two men as she's like moving through the city she's like wandering she doesn't know where she's going and she's like um this is bad yeah so she's like well the city is not exactly like the safest ever so she doesn't know who these guys are they just kind of appear and are following her so it's not like she's like oh those are Zeus's bodyguards no she doesn't recognize them yeah but they
are hurting her towards the river so the river sticks that separates the upper City from the lower City so she gets to the bridge and they are like pause question with the separation between the cities is it like one of those like more like mythical like there's like a hard SE like where she's like never been to the lower City before okay yeah which is also what's confusing because she gets to the river and she's like at the bridge and the guys are like Zeus would
like a word and then she's like a [ __ ] so it is his guys this is worse than if it was just like some Scoundrels from the street you know I was hoping someone wanted to mug me and sexually assault me right now I have to have a conversation with Zeus that would be better so she runs or starts gives us perspective right with like how bad she really doesn't want any part of this situation yes so she runs across the bridge which apparently you can't do unless you have specific permission so
there's some kind of magical mythical mystical barrier that prevents people from going from the upper City to the lower City without permission oh do you think if she passed through the magical barrier would spit her at at you see Berkeley if only no she feels like her Skin's being peeled off like as she's going through it she's like this is excruciating this is really awful now I feel bad B for making jokes about you're like no Chelsea didn't spit her out of college she felt like she was dying
literally wanted to die so um there are like Wards or something but it's never explained where did these come from who maintains them how does magic exist nobody else in this universe has magic so none of it is ever addressed and the gods aren't actually Gods but there is Magic right I'm loving this chaos it it is just very much chaotic um we've had several requests for this book and I know you'd read it before and it's been on my uh TBR for a while but real hyped
that we're here well and that's what I'm saying like I really liked it the first time I read it and I guess I just skipped over all these questions and so when I went back to outline it I was like wait a minute how does any of this work that is something that I've actually noticed when like reviewing books and trying to choose what to outline there's a lot of books that you're just like we're we all know we're suspending belief to read this but then upon reread you're
like really yeah yeah I I looked over a lot like most things like I've looked over most things so so she's running across and there's a man standing at the end of the bridge watching her like struggle across so now we switch to Hades perspective so Hades is watching her struggle across um he has no idea what's going on doesn't know who she is doesn't know how she got here um but he's like I am going to take advantage of this situation so he's just looking at her and she's like basically
begging him for help and he's like you have to get to me run like tells her to like run and so she gets to him she's like hobbling at this point cuz she lost her shoes somewhere her feet are all messed up like she's it's been a rough night and so he oh not on the bridge I forgot she had a long journey to get to the bridge I thought I was like while her skin was being pulled her body her shoes disappeared on the bridge for a second and then I the words also prevent you from having
shoes why not add that yeah and you're like her feet are all messed up and I was like that's a weird feature oh cuz she's been walking so long yeah and had been in heels and is now barefoot walking through the city correct correct so he like grabs her by the throat right and um the guy's chasing her why did you say right like you're like he grabs her by the throat right and I'm like should I assume he would grab her by the throat why did he grab her by the throat okay okay so in my
brain it tracked because he's taking advantage of the situation so he recognizes that these are Zeus's men he has like like uh files on all the people who work for Zeus so he recognized them and he's like I don't know who this chick is but Zeus wants her so I'm going to take advantage of this so not just taking advantage as far as like there's a pretty girl struggling towards me but actually had some context of like I don't know who she is but she's clearly affiliated with Zeus in
some regard and I'm going to take advantage of that right I hate Zeus so that's the whole deal so he's holding her by the throat and the guys can't cross so we learn that there's a treaty in place that says that if Zeus or any of his people or Hades and any of his people cross the bridge that they are declaring war on the other and so question bring it there there's a treaty in place that Hades can't cross but they all thought Hades has been dead this whole time yeah so
so we'll get there okay we will so she is like shivering all over she's clearly very injured it's the middle of winter she's out here without a coat and no shoes on she's she's a mess another reason why I always think these cities are in the Northeast right right I'm like you mean it's a balmy like 60 in the winter I read a book recently with like a vague City that didn't exist and then realized it was supposed to be in like North Florida and I was like I have
questions of all places like yeah like and not like on the beach like not like not not Panama City right not Coastal yeah just like like Keystone Heights in Gainesville like what yeah it felt like it was more like we're outside of like a Gainesville or a Jacksonville kind of energy to me and to be fair that could have been 100% user error um because you know me sometimes I like get a little over excited when I'm reading and I just like I'll miss a detail or two so it
could have been highlighted you mean like the time that you missed that one of the twins died in Harry Potter that was actually exactly what I was thinking about yes the time in the final Harry Potter book when I missed I still a very important death I still think about that oh my God okay so anyway as you should that my sister still talk [ __ ] about that too how long ago did the final Harry Potter come out and I still haven't lived this down okay sorry so he has her by the
throat Y and he's like basically nanny nanny boo boo you guys can't get over here go away bye but like dark and Sinister so he's like go tell your boss I've got his play thing or whatever so he picks her up how long is the bridge that he can shout I don't know I don't know one I'm sorry I'm gonna I'll shut up now I'm like there is so many other issues we can't get stuck on the length of the bridge although I did think about it cuz it seems like she's on the bridge
forever but anyway yeah it cuz it seemed like it was this like long dark ominous bridge and you can just shout Like She's mine now [ __ ] like they could hear I guess maybe the wordss amplify The Voice like a megaphone who knows like why not they can do that too we'll just add to Katie Robert's plot don't don't you worry so he like puts his coat on her cuz she realizes she's he's he realizes she's really cold throws her over his shoulder and he's taking off and he's like this might be
the chance I've been waiting for because Zeus killed my parents and I've been waiting years and years and years to [ __ ] this guy up so um he's really worried about her she is like super mouthy it's really funny and he's like oh no she's in shock because she's like excuse me do you just throw people over your shoulder is this just the thing that you do because I'm not into it and he's like she should be terrified why is she not freaking the [ __ ] out right now obviously she's in
shock so he takes her back to his house and dionisis and Hermes who are part of the 13 are in his house so ah okay we learn that the 13 and some other like Elite people are aware that Hades exists everybody else in the upper City thinks that he's just a myth and that his line has died out so um she dianis and Hermes are like oh oh so so we're kidnapping Zeus's fiance now is that what we're doing cuz they were at the party yeah like they saw the whole proposal and everything mhm and so so
why were they suddenly in his house are they all buddies yeah so they are like friends friendly with him and just show up in his house regularly and eat his food and drink his wine and just hang out and he has like the very like Broody grouchy oh get out of my house but like obviously like he likes them um but they finally say like way to go Hades and panie is like excuse me ha who what now you're Hades ah a then she freaks out then she freaks out when he's tearing
her over his shoulder totally fine but now that we know that he's the the Boogey Man of Olympus she's not into it so she tries to run and he grabs her and is like he realizes her feet are like bloody like they're really she's really injured so back to panie she's freaking out he's cleaning up her feet and takes really sweet care of her he's like really growly but also very gentle and um he starts talking down to her about like um don't worry like I'll get you back to your fiance you can start
popping out his babies and like all this other stuff um and so she what happens when you assume yeah she slaps him across the face is what happened she does and she's like um she's like I'll die first and then she goes I just slapped Hades she's like oh no I made a mistake she's like in retrospect maybe I felt a little too passionate in that moment whoops so he just like lets it by picks her up and carries her to a bedroom um and he tells her if he if she tries to escape and gets blood on his
floors that he will be forced to bring her back so she can clean them and she's like that's what that's you're worried about your floors and he's like they are very nice floors yes and so feels like both of them have interesting priorities here yeah well and they're V both just like weirdly irreverent about the most random things yeah which it keeps it interesting so there's a landline phone in the room she's aware it's probably bugged but she calls her sisters anyway um and to tell
them that she's okay she's in in the lower cities with Hades they're freaking out so they offer to help her they're like we will help you get out of Olympus apparently it's very expensive because just like there are Wards between the upper and lower City there are Wards preventing you from leaving Olympus so you have to have like ways out right you have to have money and whatever so was she ever were her was her mom ever going to let her go to UC Berkeley no no her mom was not aware of that plan
okay so that was just in her head she was like I'm going to my I'm like my dream is to get out to go get my PhD to live a life outside of this place I don't want to live like this like with people always watching me and all this [ __ ] um all this political like nastiness um but her sisters know but nobody else knows so um they offer they're like we will pull our money we will get you out and she's like no no because that just means mom will just organize for one of you to
marry Hades like I'm not or to marry Zeus I mean I'm not doing that so um she tells them not to get involved and she after the conversation she's like cool cool cool so I have um no money no phone and no plan so just living with Hades these days I'm just going to have to [ __ ] figure it out dude um and she doesn't feel safe at all like she's in this stranger's house she has nothing there's nothing in the room she can really use as a weapon so she's like well there's no lock on the bathroom
door or on the bedroom door but there is on the bathroom so she moves a table in front of the bedroom door and takes the comforter and like sleeps in the tub and like locks the door cuz she's like I don't I don't know what's going to happen to me at this point that's [ __ ] terrifying I know because it's all like sort of kitchy until that moment where she's like no like I this could be really really bad well and I think that's another like place in a lot of the books we read
where like it's very easy to suspend belief but then if you actually pause and think about truly being that character in that moment it's like oh right oh this is this is a very unsafe situation she doesn't even have shoes like she's f [ __ ] like in an evening gown right like no clothes she has nothing so back to Hades Hermes and dianis are still in the kitchen um or they're in the kitchen in the morning when he goes down um Hermes is like a super spy messenger that's her role on
the 13 um and she hints that panie is not what she seems cuz Hades has seen her in the gossip magazines and stuff and so he's like she's just a Dy trust fun kid like very shallow whatever and Hermes is like I love that you think that like okay CU Hermes knows things that she really shouldn't know so Hades takes is that like a magical like or just like is it one of the okay you there's not an answer I don't need to ask yeah I mean it's unclear she can get into places that she
shouldn't be able to get into but is she just a super cat burglar or does she have magic I don't know yeah um like is it like she's there I'm like do people bring her the secrets does she go find the secrets just have questions seems like both okay yeah so um Hades goes up what a job to have I know and she does like all the the uh message carrying between the 13 so she knows everybody's business imagine being asked what your job title is and you get to say I'm a super secret
keeper and that's your full-time job I mean like as a therapist kind of like you know super secret Keepers Hippa does make us super secret Keepers we are federally protected super secret [Laughter] Keepers but we're also mandated reporters yeah so we're we we're stupid secret Keepers unless posing imminent threat to yourself or others or know of harm being posed to a child or the elderly yeah yeah yeah with with those caveats alone we're super secret Keepers
super super secret Keepers as y yeah um so he goes up to wake up panie and he just thinks she's really cute like you know she's all rumpled and he just thinks she's really cute did he did she come out did he break through the doors he so he opened the door that wasn't locked and like knocked over the side table and he was bothered that she felt that unsafe um but just came across as really irritated towards her but he was more like oh I don't like that like like why
is she like why why doesn't she feel safe here yeah but he he didn't do that internally internally he was like oh I don't like that like I don't like that she didn't feel safe like what's happened to her before that like she would to these measures and stuff but externally which just very grumbly and Gruff so um she's still more mouthy about him barging into places um and uh she makes a joke that um he's like well this is my house I will go into any room that I choose to go into she's like you
should have some kind of consent form if that's the case people should be made aware before they stay here and um he's like noted it's but it is foreshadowing for other stuff so um consent yeah consent being the foreshadow big big consent Queen here um so he's thinking that like he doesn't feel good about using her for his revenge he's like like I actually kind of like her she's cute and she's sweet and like like she's innocent in all this I don't want to use her okay um but
before he can like say anything she's like I think we can help each other cuz he made some like vague comments about revenge on Zeus and how much he hates Zeus so she's like I got you so back to panie she intentionally puts on her fake Sunshine Persona um and she's like so go ahead and use me go ahead and use me let Zeus believe that you've ruined me because then he won't want me it's a purity culture thing in the upper City and um Hades was like that will never work like Zeus will know it's not
true um and she's like then we'll just do it for real like we won't lie we'll just really do it um and she only needs three months cuz she's going to get out she's never coming back um Zeus only goes for virgins or who he believes are virgins um her public Persona is very pure but she alludes to like she had a previous girlfriend that was like her best lover ever and like other men are just stupid basically um so uh Hades is like no it won't work because I'm not into you like
I don't like you I don't want you and she's like okay and just starts thinking of alternate plans in her mind she's like fair enough on to the next that sucks cuz he's kind of hot but whatever I have bigger fish to fry at this point I really appreciate especially with a lot of the heroins that we have read that doesn't ruin her yeah like so many of the heroins we read are like I'm just so frumpy and like yeah one passive like I feel like a lot of the books we
read even like someone will compliment someone and they're like what did they mean by that and and he's like I don't like you she's like no skin off my nose on to the next yeah literally she's like basically it's one of those things where it's like so many of the heroins their self-esteem is so fragile that a single half of a rejection like not even an entire rejection but half of one is like the major plot point in the book um where for her she was like all right
well that was one option for a plan if that's not going to work I need to think of a different plan I feel like that's Megan Quinn's books yes I've been on a big Megan Quinn kick we've talked about this I did that last year I think yeah yeah like and the series are all fun and easy but there's it's also like I think the game I've I've turned it into is trying to figure out what minor plot point is going to be the minor inconvenience that's going to implode their relationship yeah like it never
seems to be worth the Fallout in my head um and then they always resolve it very quickly yep and I'm that's my one because I think Megan Quinn's books are like so fun and so smart and so witty but I'm just like make him work for it a little girl right right like I'm like or like I'm like the the fuckups just never seem big enough for the level of response right but then the like graving seems to be actually in proportionate to the size of the [ __ ] right you know
what I mean it's like really big response but then the actual like I'm sorry they're like it's okay I forgive you right well that's I've been I told you I found the JS Scott of motorcycle club romances I've been reading and it's the same thing and it's the same thing every time where like the girl is feeling kind of insecure but she like really loves him and then one day she comes into the clubhouse and one of the club bunnies is like all over him and she's like oh my God I knew it I knew he
would never really want me and then she runs away and puts herself in Mortal danger like every time I've read literally like 20 of these by this point every single time bless it for the authors out there trying to hold down the action adventure romance because keeping it fresh when you're like essentially the women are always getting kidnapped and the men are always coming to save them yes like the details of what the kidnapping look like even like in the last one I read the
girl ran away but they the whole club and all the women had tracker implanted just in case they get kidnapped okay because they get kidnapped so often they have track kidnapped so often so she she knows she has a Tracker but she's like I don't want him to find me so she somehow already had a black market frequency [Laughter] Jammer and there's no like how did she get it where did she get it from why did she get it I couldn't tell you just in her purse you never know when you'll
need it she just had it anyway yes that's not our plot Point here thankfully um so he blah blah blah she's thinking of Alternatives and then um he gets really quiet and then he's like wait a minute if do this we have to have sex in public um hard pivot I'm not into you like that she's like okay I'll find another plan he's like unless we [ __ ] in public literally okay yeah so she he's like you will belong to me in every way this is not going to be uh only when we're in
public thing this is going to be like for real for real thing for the next 3 months what what like he took like a a full minute to consider and was like hold on a minute I've had other thoughts if we're doing this we're really doing it yes there's no half-assing this but right but at first he was like I don't know so she's like bet let's do it sounds great so um then she's like we got to seal it with a kiss so they kiss uh um so back to Hades he's like super
into this whole kiss situation and he's like um uh I got to back up like oh no because I really like her that's why I said no in the first place but she's so cute and I really want to help her and he's like I could just pay for her to get out of Olympus like I could just get her out but I don't want to a so so he leaves her so he said no because he likes her he was too into her and like this just isn't a good idea and then was like well better make these three months count and for a penny
and for a pound we're going for it um so he leaves he goes into his office um he's talking to one of his like adviser people who essentially raised him after his parents died um they were killed in a fire I just realized pound you just realized pound is in like British money didn't you I was just sitting here I've never really thought about the say before I just sitting here I was like oh my God I want to be very clear we haven't been drinking today no unfortunately this is entirely sober
oh my God you know the beauty of this podcast is it really keeps me humble yeah I'm Chelsea and I do know what a [ __ ] is is like something I never thought I would say before before the show oh my God you made me cry okay um for a penny in for a I like that I just said so the pound and the look on your face you're like I automatically know what happened I no questions wow [ __ ] man I love that we're learning I it's just I've literally never thought about it before you know it's just like
I was like that's what I was actually ruminating I was like wow you know you don't really hear in for a penny and for a pound that often I was like what a weird comparison and then I paused a second longer and went oh that feels so obvious oh my God oh I like that I'm talking about his parents being murdered and you're like wait a minute wait a minute honestly I completely missed his parents murder which feels like a really shitty thing to say honestly it's very unbrand yeah yeah yeah the
murder but also the analogy right right right so his parents were killed in a fire um and he believes Zeus said we know that Zeus said it okay it's not just like it is confirmed Zeus said it and also in the house right so he is very scarred um and um it's a whole big mess so the his advisers are trying to convince him to just like go ahead and give panie back like this is a bad idea and he's like no I didn't break the treaty she ran from him she ran to me so
unless she chooses to gooss the bridge yeah unless she chooses to go back I'm not keeping her against her will can she cross back yes so she can cross to the high city whatever it's called M with with no problem but going to the the low City where Hades is is where it will cause the physical issues right not the bloody stump feet right that was from walk because she didn't she didn't have permission from Hades to cross so like diis and her perm dianis and Hermes can cross because they have
permission from Zeus or from Hades and Zeus to go back and forth do you need permission from both okay that's way that's you need you need Zeus's permission to cross to the higher City and you need Hades permission to cross to the lower yes okay so um they he's like working on getting her some clothes because obviously she has no clothes so um Zeus calls while he's sitting in his office and starts making threats and demands that Hades give her back um and he taunts Zeus about it and
he says um he's like taunting him and the quote is like uh you can only imagine like the depraved things all do to that tight little body and he's like she'd prefer to be debauched by me than anywhere near you son like he's like going in but he feels really gross that he's like saying that about her he's like oh like I know we agreed that we were going to help each other out but this yeah I don't like talking about her like that yeah but he doesn't anyway so he
doesn't mind it enough to stop correct he's like like oh guilt it'll pass that's a fascinating moral concept that we could delve into at some point as well which is not really what we do here on the show that's a different podcast that's a different podcast one we haven't started yet um although I'm sure someone else has and you should go listen to their therapy podcast cuz we or there their guilt whatever their commentary on social mores whatever what a good word I
know I've been thinking I read it somewhere and was like Mor I love a really like a good vocab word um and I also know I talk so fast I [ __ ] them up on a regular basis we like as I'm saying it I'm like that word no longer sounds intelligent because you got it WR have you watched the new Glass Onion the Ed Norton one uh-uh um on Netflix I well relatively no in the last year or two right um but there's a Ed Norton like is always using these big words like getting them wrong saying them
wrong and at some point they're like he's an idiot like he like is using all these words making people think he's smart he doesn't know [ __ ] he's [ __ ] up all these words and that's how I feel most of the time well that's like Michael Scott when he's like it's in calable you know like I'm not Su stitious but I am a little a little stitious um that always makes me think of 10 Things I Hate About You I know you can be overwhelmed yeah can you just be welmed I think you can in
Europe that movie is brilliant it is I haven't watched him in forever so years ago when I worked youth ministry I was having a big slumber party with all of like my high school girls and I was in charge of bringing the movies and I I brought that one with a bunch of others and they were just like Chelsea we should not have like this was before streaming services right we should not have put you in charge of the movies [ __ ] I um and then like 10 minutes in
they're like this is the best movie ever and like thank you we never would have seen this and I'm like I I know you're welcome you're welcome yeah I need to watch that now I need to find it somewhere our first answer at our wedding was Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You not not the Heath Ledger version right the Lauren Hill version oh nice yeah it was a good first Dan what was your first dance did you do one I was gonna say yeah we didn't dance does Matt dance no do you dance
yeah how you said both of those no no yeah I Dan okay that's like the energy of our whole relationship is like mad is is the anchor and then I just cause chaos and then return like when you crash your car into a ditch trying to get boiled peanut I no that wasn't the example I was thinking I showed I showed Vance a photo I was like oh looks like Hannah and Matt like I was like scrolling through Facebook and I showed him a photo of y'all and he's like I've never seen a
photo of matth before he's like but he looks exactly as I pictured he would I was like I felt the same way yeah like I was like I don't know who but like as soon as I saw a photo of him I was like oh yep I get it like this energy yeah no makes so much sense yeah yeah he let me braid his beard the other day I've never experienced so much serotonin in my life oh my God like I was just like we were just sitting there and I was like baby I want to braid your beard and he he was
like okay like whatever I was like oh my God so I did like two little baby braids did he wear them to work no okay no it was on the weekend okay yeah not wi public thing no it made me really happy would he go in public with the braided beard I don't think he would care touche yeah he might anywh who um bless Matt he Amen to that y are you guys are just like such a good little pairing together thank you okay where were we I panie so she gets dressed in borrowed clothes she goes out with
Hades um and then he shows up and he's like carrying her she's like I can walk and he keeps getting really frustrated with her that she's not taking better care of herself like she's not eating enough she's like pushing it too hard on her feet that are really injured he's like he's really frustra with her so so um she just leans into the fact that he's going to carry her because he he's not listening so she's like whatever you uh there's no point in asking to walk if
you're going to keep ignoring me right so um he takes her into the basement of the house to this really weird room and she's like uh awkward concerning is there anything in the room it's a Sex Dungeon is what we find out there we go but he's like it's not a Sex Dungeon and Hermes is like it's a Sex Dungeon like it's definitely a Sex Dungeon don't let him fool you it's definitely a Sex Dungeon yeah literally she's really funny um so he tells her that um when he said he cuz part of why
he said no to the original offer was that he doesn't bargain for sex but when he take to takes her down there he's like well that wasn't totally true um because you know consent is really important to me so before we enter this room I need you to tell me pick a safe word so she picks pomegranate like nod to the myth right I see and um he's like harping on and on about consent and she's like oh consent matters does it like how you carry me with consent and he's like this was a bad
idea and she's like I'm I was just kidding like I was just teasing I'm sorry I'm sorry like I won't make jokes about consent anymore I'm sorry so um they go in and um it's like a replica of Zeus's throne room but a Sex Dungeon she's like she's like I see what you did here I get it I get it so you're trying to work through over there was a little bit of resentment so um they go in and it's empty and she's like where is everybody he's like did you think I was just going to
like put you on a stage the first time we ever touch each other in front of her room full of people like no no honey a little bit she literally was like I kind of was thinking that yes so um he goes through an extensive list of sexual Kinks and she yes no maybe yes no maybe and they like go through all the things consent matters he like explains to her that at any point pomegranate stops everything blah blah blah this is all for her pleasure um she's clearly really really
into it and he just stays stone-faced through the whole thing like he's completely unaffected he's like how do you feel about anal play and she's like maybe and he's like noted and she's like oh my God like I'm on fire and he's like all right so they're going through it this does seem like a very fun book is it is really fun um and I I appreciate the way that she goes about consent in a healthy BDSM type relationship cuz normally in these books it's like and suddenly he
pulled out a whip and I was like oh my god I've never been so on in my life and it's like no no no no no n nope nope we shouldn't be doing that um so I can't imagine I mean I can I don't want to right right right that's the key cuz I'm like if you just have open communication with your partner M we can all be on the same page yeah like just use your words use your words and there are things that you're like maybe like I'd be willing to try it I don't really I don't really know how I
feel like I feel like my my husband and I have like not that I'm going to like do a deep dive into Vance ni sex life right but I I feel like I really appreciate within our relationship there's the comfort and the safety that like if we like I tried something and I went yes or no he goes no and I go okay now we know and just like moved on but I was like like I I can't imagine not having conversations in the so many books there's no they just dive straight in yeah like and it's concerning
multiple partners multiple toys yep with no nothing you good with this right you you okay hot like oh okay like this is another way we're suspending belief like okay yes 1,000% that is another way of suspending belief in a lot of these books I heard I was listening to another podcast a while back and I heard the host was like so some research has come out recently that women who have sex with men um have the least satisfying sex life and 80% say that they do not have orgasms regularly
and the the co-host goes that [ __ ] is dark are straight women okay it's like a gay man who's like are straight women okay so concerned a lot of them aren't he's like why are we having conversations about this why doesn't everyone know it's like well the pleasure of women doesn't matter so it yeah the pleasure woman doesn't matter and there just needs to be more open conversation mhm and like I was having conversation with someone who um heterosexual relationship and I was
talking to the male partner and they were feeling some like not like shame or guilt but just they're they were noting their um their partner initiated sex more often and they were like kind of internalizing that about like oh is that like a character flaw on my end is that like a problem with me that like am I not into it like why am I not like and I was just able to say well an 80 % of like traditional heterosexual relationships the male does initiate more but in 20% it is common that the
woman has a higher sex drive and initiates more and it looked like the relief that he's like oh oh what yeah and I'm like it doesn't it doesn't mean anything's wrong with you no it's just different yeah it's not even that different it really it really isn't it's okay but there's no conversations about it so everything feels dirty and dark well and it's also this idea that like women are the prey and like men are supposed to be initiating and like women aren't supposed to be into it as much
it's like just a very weird gross misogynist when I was like younger and like still in physically developing developing and such I remember not even it never occurred to me that sexual that like sex could be pleasurable for the woman right like my literal thought process like oh yeah like you have sex and the man comes like my actual thought process of how sex worked as a young child well but then we have this like swing the other direction in a lot of these romance novels where it's like he
barely touched my [ __ ] and I came like he breed yeah he breathed on my vagina and it was Dripping I came harder than I've ever come in my life and so never and I've never been with a partner before and you're like that's not how this works I've never seen a penis like it's like what yes so that's part of why I this book stood out to me and why I remembered it is like this scene specifically because he goes through all the things um and so and as noted in the
book she is like very aroused he's being very clinical and he's like we just need to get through this list yes or no on this yes or no on that and she's like oh my God she's like are we doing this she's like these things are all options what right literally yeah so um he tells her it's yes it can be hot to talk about consent is the only Point yes consent is sexy so um he's like yes sir when we're in this room or you'll be punished and she's like oh no I liked that like okay
all right so he puts her on the stage in a spotlight there's there's nobody there but he puts her up there um and tells her to strip he's teasing her um she's like shaking she's so excited um and then um yeah she's like I haven't been this excited since I hooked up with my exgirlfriend a few years ago this is [ __ ] awesome like excited so um he tells her that he's going to make her come and then take her upstairs to change the bandages on her feet and if she's a good girl she'll get to come
again um she's like yes please I also just love the sexual confidence in these books oh right when like especially with that stat of like yeah most most straight women are not orgasming consistently and all of these books are like I will make you come five times tonight or I have not done done my job properly and I know how to make that happen and I'm like with a swiftness like with a Swift I will make that expedited that orgasm for you like you're like what right like like the
confidence to just be like I'm going to make you come multiple times what books are you reading my guy okay okay so we're back to Hades he really is like super turned on but he's like keeping it locked down um so there's all kinds of stuff about um he's talking to her about what it's going to be like when they have an audience that you know they're all going to want her and he's like do you think I should share you and she's like I don't know that I'm into that he's like good good
because you're mine and I won't he's like they can look and be jealous but they can't touch one of those yeah so then my notes say he finger bangs her to completion we love that for her then he realizes like I need to step away from her like this is a lot like I'm really excited so um blah blah blah um he basically his whole thing is he keeps his territory and his people in the lower City safe because people think he's like the baddest [ __ ] and so he says um I can't
appear to be let around by the [ __ ] by a girl from the upper City like can't happen can't be [ __ ] whipped out here nope so he's like L break our political system literally like the fabric of Olympus will crumble so um he continues to like take care of her he takes her upstairs um to redress her feet um and um she's like well we should definitely [ __ ] before we [ __ ] in front of people right like we should we should get that way just making sure we should
we should test that one out too just to be clear you know um and um he is like giving her a hard time about not taking care of herself and all this other [ __ ] um and he tells her that if she can't be trusted to care for her body then he will do it for her which she does not like she's like it's my body so maybe calm down he's like nope the next three months it's mine you agreed sorry not sorry no take backs and he's like realizing he's never kept a submissive like this before and he's
like am I supposed to be feeling like this like I don't know so he's a little conflicted so um he goes to leave we're back to Pan's point of view she's like you owe me another orgasm um don't forget have a good night yeah she's like excuse me you promised um she's definitely a brat she just wants to he's like what do you really want and she's like to misbehave is what I want because she's always been like the perfect good little girl um so he she he tells her to rub one out in front
of him so he does that he touches himself at the same time um and then he she's like begging him to touch her and so he just like rubs her with his dick I don't know why I did that hand motion I'm really sorry but like there's just no penetration there's sexual contact and no penetration but they both come well initially when you said rub her and had those hand motions I thought like she was getting a postorgasm massage and then cuz you used both hands for the
hand motion and then you said with his dick now like logistically Curious don't worry about it so um yeah there's good after care she's like I'm not into cuddling he like pulls her into his lap and he's like this isn't cuddling this is after care right um and so they have a sweet moment and it's nice so then Hades leaves we're back to him Hermes is there um and she has a message from demer so when Hermes brings a message it comes out in the voice of the person who sends the message right okay
so she opens her mouth I had been wondering how the messaging worked deer's voice comes out of hermes's mouth which sounds disturbing so um she says that at least if you know that it's going to would May a little L disturbing but if you don't know that Hermes is about to open their mouth and it's going to be another yeah unsettling so um deer says she's going to cut off the food supply to his people if she doesn't give or if he doesn't give panie back so um he's
pissed um and he knows that he's not going to do that um and also his people have been preparing for something like this for quite some time because of the tension between him and Zeus so he's like we got it not worried it's all good yeah like she can take her food supply away and we will still be okay we have been we knew this was coming at some point didn't know what the Catalyst would be right so he keeps thinking like I am not ever giving her back even if this is temporary and she
leaves me she will be happy and it will be her choice I'm not giving her back like I don't care about the consequences so he's just seems like a kind Gruff misunderstood yeah he's got a little bit of like Beast from Beauty and the Beast energy I thought that yeah um so he takes her shopping they go all through the lower City he's like showing her around there's lots of History the upper city has essentially erased their history like it's all new and like they tore down historical buildings and
things like that and the lower city is much more more like rich in that area so she's loving it they have a special bonding moment where he takes her to his favorite place in the city um and then as they go to leave she almost faints because she hasn't been eating so um is there a reason that she hasn't been eating she's stressed she's one of those that like when she gets stressed she can't eat okay um and so it's not like a like intentionally not taking care of herself
nah she just has a hard time eating full meals when she's really stressed I understand that same yeah yeah so he takes her back to the house he my notes say he's big mad um and he gets a bunch of takeout for her um she's like annoyed with him but also kind of likes that he's taking care of her so um they're in his room she falls asleep and he's again just really mad that because also part of of this is she's ignoring her body's cues about her hunger about her fatigue about her pain
and he's like I can't trust her in a scene to tell me what's actually going on with her like if I can't trust her to take care of herself on a day-to-day basis how can I trust her to be honest with me like when we're in the middle of something that could actually hurt her if she doesn't tell me you know valid valid concern yep um so she wakes up later he's like get dressed he puts it out like this um princess leaes situation like the gold bikini yes gold bikini situation and he's like in a
full black suit and they go down to the playroom and there's a ton of people there and um he is realizing he just really likes her like she's bratty and fun and smart and he's like yeah he's like balls [ __ ] so this wasn't supposed to happen he's like she's not mine like she has he has to keep reminding himself like this is temporary like she really isn't his to take care of even though his instincts are to protect her so they go down to the playroom and it's obvious that she's
really nervous so this whole setup was very intentional so she is dressed like essentially Princess Leia as a slave at that one point in the movie it's very intentional to like send this message so they go in everyone is staring um but he tells her like we're not going to go on stage tonight like that had been his original plan but seeing how nervous she was he was like we're just going to essentially like [ __ ] over here like in this Throne people want to watch that's
cool but we're not going to get on the stage so um he organized a different show at as like a pre-show anyway so um there's like a naked woman that there's a lot of detail about that she's very full figured and like whatever um and a a man comes out ties her up she gets super turned on Haiti starts fingering her in front of everybody um and clearly no one's watching the stage like everybody knows who she is everybody knows who he is and they're all like oh [ __ ] so um they Bang
um he pulls out a condom y he pulls out a condom they bang um he turns her around to face the room so that there is no question that she's super into it like he's not forcing anything like this is all of it is very much a show uhhuh um very consensual yep very of her own accord yep so then he pulls out but he didn't come like she came but he didn't um and she's like what are you doing and he's like I'm not done with you yet and I don't want to do that in here
so so fair enough he's super excited and then he's like what's this funny feeling in my chest and that's like through the whole book love there's like why is my heart all squeezy like what's that like okay um is someone going to eventually go that feeling it's love I mean he does eventually he does yeah I was hoping so there's like a whole bunch of political [ __ ] that's happening in this playroom scene with like people from the upper City seeing them um and so there's
a lot of people from the upper City in his basement yeah so like it is the best kept secret that Hades is alive like it well the worst kept secret really like that he's there thriving having sex parties like everybody in the upper City appar knows this clearly not desolate no or dead or dead no yeah very much alive everybody's doing great so um uh they're like Hermes is warning him like this could cause uh a war like this is really serious and then Hades all of
a sudden starts to realize like Pan's sisters are unprotected in the upper City he's like oh [ __ ] I really should have thought of that that's not ideal so he's like trying to have his Spies Like keep an eye on them and watch them and this is what he's think about while he's [ __ ] her no this is after this is after he's pulled out and he's like still hard having a conversation yeah I guess in my head he was still inside her well I didn't think he was still inside her but when he said I'm
not done with you I thought like the scene was continue where like they were going to go up to his like it did seem that way but that's not what happened then when he start talking I was like wait what we're still playing political Mind Games he didn't nut but suddenly goes I realize her sisters are unprotected they're not safe you guys so um then he decides like yeah I've waited long enough I'm ready to go thanks bye and so he carries her out and then he realizes like he's not carrying her
because of her beet he just likes to carry her so it's like a welcome so um he finally tells her about the threat her mom made to his people and she's like I'll go back like I'll go back um and he's like no no we got it they make out he turns out the lights and she's like but I want to I want to see you like I want to touch you and he's like h no like he does eventually let her touch him but he doesn't want her to see him the scars classically um initially he does
like prevent her from touching him but eventually they go all in she puts another condom on him they have a solidifying [ __ ] and she asks him to stay with her um even though she's in his bed he's like babe where' you think I was going to go so it's liter yes I'll stay with you like well since you ask nicely right um and not because it's my bed exactly so he holds her he's thinking about how it's really going to suck when she leaves but he's really grateful to have
her now um and it's she's really determined to make the most of their time she's like We're going to milk this just for everything so but still with the 3 months timeline in mind she's going because the other thing is if she doesn't go then her mom will never lift this ban on the food like it's not just that after 3 months she gets to leave but it's like there will be far-reaching consequences if she chooses to stay with him right so um he has never let anybody touch his scars
before um and you know previous lover have been like disgusted by him because of it and he mentions like male lovers too it's just like casually like BS he's a five on the Kinsey scale like throughout the book for both of them um which is interesting but um he keeps reminding himself this is temporary and then he gets a text that there's a mandatory meeting of the 13 via Zoom I guess so um the 13 minus Hara cuz she's dead get on the meeting Zeus is demanding panie back her mom gets all
indignant um and like you will give my daughter back and he's like I'm sorry the daughter that you sold to the wife murderer that daughter I don't think I'll be doing that like the daughter that you so clearly cared about that you sacrificed her for your own political purposes the deep love and you have for for that daughter no we won't be doing that so then um she he's like you can't actually be concerned like come on like Zeus you'd never really talk to the girl you
proposed to or Rando for a political deal you sold your daughter how mad can you'all be that that I have her right like I don't think this is about pranie like let's be real so um he she comes up behind him wrapped in his sheets like there's description of the beard burning hickeys all over her and she leans down into the camera and is like I'm very happy here thank you and like hangs up on the 13 and Hades is like babe he's like not even I would like okay somebody woke up spicy like
okay so um um she gives him a Hummer he's super into it um and he's like really into making her cry while she does it but she's also into that and so they have like a whole system for if he goes too far if he hurts her obvious and as long as there's a system and it works for both of them yeah we're into it um and then um he's just having a lot of feelings he's just having a lot a lot of feelings that he's trying not to acknowledge um so then he gives her a cell phone that is not
tapped so that she can communicate with her sisters um so she calls them she tells them everything that's going on they continue to encourage her she's still feeling really guilty um they're being followed um by they're pretty sure Zeus's men and so they are concerned that Zeus is going to try to do something to one of them to like lure her back across the bridge and they're like listen no matter what happens do not come back here like do not come for us we will be
okay but she's like freaking out foreshadowing very much so so um Hades they're like living life like he comes in and sees her all curled up after he's had a really long hard day and he's like I really like seeing her here yeah this is so nice to come home to someone um so he decides to take her out they Explore More of the city they have a great time um she sees how much he really loves his people and like spending time with them which is very different than the 13 in the upper City
it's very much like worthy Elite kind of deal um but he's like eating from what amounts to a food truck like you know he's having a good time and he knows the owner of the food truck like you know um and so she moves into his room um and um apparently he has this thing where he has to check all the doors and windows before he can go to bed that's like left over from the trauma of the fire when he was younger and um he she doesn't make him feel bad about it she's just like she like
reminds him she's like did you check the doors and windows cuz she knows he won't sleep mhm if he doesn't and he's like well I'm [ __ ] like super she's thoughtful and kind and looks so warm and cuddly yeah she's just real cute um I love this for him yes so it's very sweet so then um it's been about a week um they've been banging panie confesses that she really wants to be on the stage um with Hades um they bang again because they get turned on talking about it and
he's like uh I'll do whatever you want like next sex party let's have another party yeah bet got you girl say less and then um he finally lets her see him naked which is a huge moment for him um he starts to get really worried that Zeus hasn't done anything he's like I'm concerned that he's too quiet yeah it's been like two weeks like where you at man like I don't like it so um he finally realizes all the squeezy feelings are love he's like oh [ __ ] um so he's reminding himself it's
temporary I have to let her go all that stuff um she wakes up and asks him about going without a condom cuz before this it's been every single time very clear and itive condoms are used she says she has an IUD and she's clean and he gets really excited that she trusts him so much um so they have more sex um and so again they go out they're having a great time she asks asks to stop at a pet store and he's like sure we can stop at the pet store like literally whatever you want what does he
think is going to happen when you stop at a pet store with yes you're correct yeah so they go in and um they have three puppies that were abandoned and she like gets on the ground and starts playing with them and the owner of the shop which of course Haiti knows the owner he donates to them all the time to help with like Strays and stuff um is like I've been trying to get this one to get a dog and she's like Hades you have to but you can't separate them we need all three I see I see the
the nod there as well look at us go yeah how big are the dogs they will be big right now they're puppies but their paws are massive and of course the biggest one he named curus um so um she like internally she's really worried about him being alone when she leaves cuz his house is all big and empty and she's like is that part of why she wanted to get him pets so that he wouldn't be alone yeah cuz she's worried about him she's like he likes to take care of things he likes to take care of
people people and like if I'm not here he'll have them to take care of so um well with your inability to care for yourself he might have them to care for even if you are here just for the record just a thought so then um she just wants him to be loved and to like be able to love and so he he decides he'll take all three um and he says these are our dogs and she's like no no Hades these are your dogs and he's like no you don't understand these are our dogs so he insists that she named two of them
um and then like on their way back she's like oh so they're going to deliver the um like supplies mhm and we'll walk home and then she's like oh my God I think of his house as home this is not good yeah like this is not good cuz I got to go um so she's very concerned about like the trouble that she's going to make for every body um but she doesn't see another option mhm so um they have a very heartfelt moment where they both basically say like if we were different people
like I would want you to stay like I would ask you to stay if we were the conversation of we really wish the timing were different here and we're both bummed right that there's a clock and she's like if we were different people you wouldn't have to ask me to stay like you know like it's a very sweet moment where it's like we both want it it reminded me of the end of shit's creek with Alexis and Ted I'm not going to lie I never actually finished shits Creek oh
no spoilers which I'm not upset about like we it's one of those shows that like we like would casually passively put on and I think like I got through like two seasons and then we started watching something else and I always mean to go back to it yeah it's excellent right everyone loves it yeah it's really funny um and wholesome uh but that's the energy is like we love each other like we want to be with each other and circumstances outside of our control mean that like love is not enough so
um she has been talking up them having sex on stage and later that night they go down to the playroom and she lowkey is starting to panic and he's like he notices and he's like I changed my mind I don't want to have sex with you on stage and she's like thank you sweetheart like that's really sweet um I see you changing your mind cuz you see that I'm nervous yeah he's he's really thoughtful he's very thoughtful and sweet and so she's like I just need to work up to it so she
gives him a [ __ ] in front of everyone but they're still like in the shadows and then he um he makes it look like he's really forcing her like he's grabbing her hair and like all this other stuff um but he's not it's all for show and um so then he feels gross about it because this is what they're into and he would be doing that anyway but he sees people thinking he's really using her um and hurting her and he's like less sexy now yeah you know so less into it when people think that you're
actually being harmed exactly but she notices that he's like kind of distracted and like brings him back to the moment and um all he can think about is how much he loves her but he can't have her so then um he pulls her into the throne after he finishes and sets her in the throne and he gets on on his knees which is like a really big deal and he eats her out and she's super confused and like what is happening oh in my notes I forgot I did this I did this for you he gives her a blow [Laughter]
job a that was so thoughtful thank you for doing that for me he gave her a [ __ ] he gave her a [ __ ] literally it says he gives her a BJ which is obviously amazing if Rihanna can say it we can say it amen that's not true at all for the record do not quote me on that there's a lot that she can say that we can't say for a variety of reasons but in this case we will quote the great Rihanna in this case we can so um he after she finishes he tells the whole room that she is his and he is
hers and she's like what are you doing like okay um uh and so she knows they've talked about this in like a like a roundabout way but this has nothing to do with revenge on Zeus so like in private they've talked about their feelings like we really do actually care for each other but everything in the playroom is supposed to be directly pointed at Zeus and this wasn't and she's like oh okay um so uh he takes her back up to his bedroom he's really clearly very very
upset um and he tells her that he won't ask her to stay um because he knows it's not possible but this really sucks like it's going to hurt um and so they go into azy like ripping each other's clothes off um and uh he they're talking about like in the future he he's like midst stroke he's like in the future when you're with someone else when you find someone else um I want you to remember that no one will ever be like I am with you um and to think of me when you're with someone else and she's
like please don't be cruel like that's that was [ __ ] and he's like you don't you don't understand like you have ruined me and I am just returning the favor and she's really upset about it and so he feels awful afterwards like he realizes he went way too far um but she's like I mean I'm not sorry everything you said is true it just hurts you know so um there's lots of concern about his people suffering because he still has her so her phone starts raining has her
mom turned off the food at this point okay not like Total Blackout but really close to it but he has a like a side deal with Poseidon's second okay so they still are getting supplies that are coming through like The Docks but the land locked stuff they aren't getting okay so um Pan's phone starts ringing it's her younger sister uicy she's being followed she's really freaking out um her boyfriend was supposed to meet her and he didn't show so they're pretty sure that he set her
up um yeah yeah he's like a musician and like later they find out this is isn't really relevant but it's pretty [ __ ] up later they find out when he was supposed to be meeting her at the bar and she then is subsequently pulling a panie running through the streets of Olympus away from these men he's like posting pictures on social media of him with other women like super gross so even if he didn't set her up he's a dick yes so um panie is on the phone with her and she's
just like get to the bridge get to the river like just get to the bridge and so um the man that's following her seems to be hurting her there anyway um apparently this is Zeus's emmo he like wants people to have a taste of like that they might be able to get away and then like snatching it back like he gets off on that like power trip so um when they get to the bridge when panie and Hades get to the bridge to meet her um they see that uriy is very clearly injured and a man comes up and
pulls a knife and how like has her and is like actively harming her and so Hades is like you know what [ __ ] it and he crosses the bridge um because the same skin peely thing happened to him no okay um a little bit but like not as bad okay but um he's like well just going to cause a war destroying the treaty causing a war right because panie is trying to cross back over and one of his men is holding her back and he's like she will never ever forgive me and I might not forgive
myself if this man kills her sister in front of her and like we could have stopped it so he shoots the guy in the arm um and then just beats the ever loving [ __ ] out of him before carrying ridy back over um and back at the house panie is obviously really thankful um they've taken care of youry injuries and she's playing with the puppies and like just watching them together playing with the puppies he's like no regrets like yeah I did what was right so but also what's the Fallout
real bad okay yeah so he tells her to update her other sisters like they need to also be on alert yes um and uh yeah Pan's like I need to stay with her you know Hades is super supportive he's like you do whatever you need to do um and panie is starting to realize her desire to leave Olympus is selfish and really naive like to believe that she could just run and it not cause her sister's harm and now hades's harm yeah was [ __ ] foolish and so she feels awful about
it um and she decides that she is going to fight because she doesn't want Hades or her sister her sisters or any of the lower City to suffer because of right yeah so she's like well guess it's time to [ __ ] Zeus up hell yeah yep so um deserves it he really does not just in this book but just he's the [ __ ] worst so um yeah lots of stuff happens he starts trying to organize his people um to prepare for the retaliation from Zeus Hermes shows up with a message um from
Zeus that says return both girls in 13 hours or you will be annihilated and Hermes is really sad because she's part of the 13 which means technically because Hades broke the treaty she has to side with the rest of the 13 against him and she's like clearly really conflicted about it so um she's like I can't do anything to stop this Hades like you did this yeah so um which he knows he did he knew he knew from the jump and he chose he chose to do it anyway um he's determined
to protect panie and his people no matter what the cost is to himself so then Hermes goes to panie and she has a message from from Zeus for pranie which is return and maybe I won't go to war with Hades and she's like okay like yes you will yeah you mean this threat that you're just going to hold over me for like forever forever yeah well and he's been looking for a reason to destroy him his entire life Hades doesn't know why Zeus hates him so much we never find out but he [ __ ] does
and so he's just been Zeus has just been looking for a reason um but he couldn't because of the treaty so um she panie sends a message back to her mother but we don't know what the message is okay we just know that she's like Hermes I need you to get a message to my mom that's all we know so she's realizing that she loves Hades and she has to protect him so Hermes shows up a couple hours later with a message from her mom and Mom just says you have a deal we don't know what the
deal is but we have a deal so she goes with Hermes so she leaves idy at hades's house and she goes with Hermes who takes her to Zeus's building okay and um there is a party going on at because there's always a party going on um he gets kind of gross grabbing on to her and telling her that she's been bad Zeus mm okay and she just like leans into it because she knows pictures are being taken and so she like puts on her fake smile does Hades know about her plan or what's happening right now no
because she was staying with her sister that night okay like in the room with her sister does he know she's gone no oh [ __ ] he has no idea yeah big yikes big yikes he's not going to respond well to that and he doesn't so um she goes to her mom's and her mom tries to pretend that she's been protecting her and that she had had a plan for Zeus if she married him um but to keep her from being killed yeah basically it was like lowkey poison but not enough to kill him
enough to keep him alive so that they would have power over the 13 and his air wouldn't take over but not so much to actually kill him just incapacitate him correct yeah um but now her mom's like well but now he's a problem so we're just going to take care of that little issue her mom is a piece of work yeah yeah we also find out her mom has been married four times so all of her sisters are are biological half sisters and every single one of the marriages was just like a power move like it's
like watching The Little Mermaid a little bit yeah um so um persephanie makes a deal that Hades will be seen with her mom at six events throughout the year to make it look like they're allies so he doesn't actually have to back her on anything he just has to look like he's backing her on stuff because that's going to bolster her power um and panie knows she can never leave Olympus now because she has promised her mom that she's going to get Hades to like agree to this stuff MH but she
can't risk him um and she's like hopefully he'll forgive me and we can be together so Hades realizes she's gone seriously upset he doesn't know what to do he finds a note that says that she loves him and she's going to fix everything and he's like the [ __ ] does that mean like he's like no no no no no no no no no don't go fixing [ __ ] time out rewind because he's like fixing things is you going to a party with Zeus ah like I don't like this plan so um he knows though that she must
actually truly love and trust him because she left her sister with him to protect her so he's like okay so that's not [ __ ] but like yikes but I don't like not being included in the plan yeah big yikes don't like it um so he takes off to try to get her back and Hermes shows up and he's like what are you doing here are you here to kill me now like aren't we at War and she's like I love that you think that I'm here to give you a ride get in and he's like okay so he gets in
and heres is like hey so um uh here's a message from Deer you have the support of more than half of the 13 here's a gun good [Music] luck so panie organized an entire alliance against Zeus with her mother so that to give Hades an opening to go kill him so Hades is like well okay then well don't look a gift horse in the mouth correct he's like lowkey I've been planning this for for years I have questions about that saying as well but that is also a conversation for another
time I think I know oh I do you want me to tell you now actually if you know yeah so from my understanding okay which could be wrong is that um part of like buying horses back in the day and maybe today I don't know anything about horses really is you want to check their teeth and that's you get a good understanding of their health based on their teeth huh but if somebody gives you a horse it would be incredibly rude to look at their to look at their teeth oh yeah
thank you you're welcome very helpful I've learned so this podcast we need to recategorize it it's [ __ ] educational the more you [Laughter] know can we get the Reading Rainbow Guy to come and honestly what it is is that between you and your knowledge of General pop culture and me and my knowledge of just random [ __ ] that's not necessary to anything we are a trivia Juggernaut we do it's true so anyway um we should also bring my husband on to our trivia team because what I've
noticed Vance and I have very different approaches to things especially when it comes to trivia Vance is like there's nothing I can't figure out if you like give me enough time so he'll get real like I can just like process of my way to the correct yes and that is not me I know the fact or I don't I don't sit like that is just not how my brain works so when we play trivia together I hear the question and I'm either like I know this answer or I don't know this answer and
pance is like give me a few minutes we'll get there and I'm like the [ __ ] you feels like like like a a perfect example of your whole relationship though yes yes where you're like I've got it or oh [ __ ] and Vance is like we'll get there the man's life motto is why worry twice there you go like 1,000% I like that okay so back into Hades has a gun and the blessing to [ __ ] [ __ ] up yep so um he gets to Zeus's office and um he hears sex sounds from the bathroom and he's like
like oh [ __ ] like if he's hurting panie oh [ __ ] like I'll never forgive myself he starts to freak out but then he listens and he's like that's not her that's not her that's not her so he hides and he waits the girl leaves and Zeus comes out and then Hades confronts him um my notes say fight scene it's a lot I appreciate that it tells me all I need to know yeah so Hades in the midst of this decides that he can't kill Zeus because that would just make him just as
bad as him um the window Shadows shatters at some point during the fight and he tries to get Zeus to stop he's like listen man yeah maybe we shouldn't and Zeus won't listen and then just falls out of the window like takes a wild punch because he's so like and R adrenaline and he doesn't realize the window has shattered and he falls out of it so Hades doesn't push him Hades does not push him Hades in fact tries to catch him he like oh but he misses um and so um Hades is like well
oops so he goes to leave demer per Stephanie's mom is waiting outside the office and she's like don't worry I'll clean up and like puts gloves on and he's like her mom is both terrifying and kind of inspirational yeah yeah like yeah I never want to go up against her but you want her on your team right like I feel like I would like to get to know her but I wouldn't want to have a relationship with her touche you know what I mean I want to meet her at a dinner party never yes
yes yes yes um so I want to play trivia with her um so he goes home he's super depressed because he's like well now per Stephanie is safe and she can be free like I got to let her go so he's really depressed because she didn't put in the letter that she left him that she wanted to stay with him and that's why she was doing this right I mean she say she was going to fix everything for everyone which come on Hades believe in yourself man you've had a lot of conversations
about your love for each other but we didn't get there so but that one sentence was missing from the letter right so Pan's mom um comes back and sends her back to Hades and tells her um that they both need to be at the press conference about Zeus's death that's that's hades's first public appearance with me for the year go deal with that and P Stephanie is like coming up with a whole plan of like how I'm going to convince him that this is a good idea and that he wants to be
with me and that six events a year is not that bad and hopefully he won't be mad and she's like going through this whole thing and um she's just so grateful when yeah he's just so excited he's like she's like so I made a deal with my mom and he's like sounds good and she's like do you want to know the deal and he's like you're here he's like don't really care uh so they go to the press conference it's really sweet and wonderful cuz she like deflects from him because everybody's
like ha is is real and she's like don't worry about it like look how cute I am like um so he asked her to move in with him all the Declarations of love so then we get to the epilog okay and they are super in love everything's going great great they do a finally they do a full scene on stage oh um in The Sex Dungeon and everyone is happy the end that's what my notes say you know yeah all right to your point from earlier there were some plot holes as far as just like suspending
belief about the which to Katie Robert's credit I do imagine that's like a delicate balance in a retelling MH right I appreciate even the nod with the six events right um and pomegranate as our safe word mhm yeah yeah okay so are are pomegranates yeah let's do pomegranates is there anything else that we would throw puppies puppies but I a half a puppy feels wrong so just do no only whole puppies are allowed here half a pomegranate is fine though yeah you're like how many ounces of pomegranate
juice how many pomegranate seeds they're six out of six I got into a debate one time with um like my parents were like having a dinner party with some of their friends and they like had their kids over who were like my also like when I say my age I was like a freshman in college we were not like children right and I was debating how many pomegranate seeds it was six yeah it was [ __ ] a it was six I'm still pissed about this is so spicy you're like wow no I I don't
even remember the kid's name he was like he was 13 but he had a genius IQ and was like a Mena member was their son and he was like it was three I'm a Mena member and his sisters were like you can't just use that as your argument for why you're right and I was like I've taken actual like I took a whole Greek mythology class yep in college um but he was like no it's three seeds I'm a Mena member I still remember that fens M like it's six I'm like [ __ ] yeah was six I've been saying this since the
early ODS aggressive late no the OTS the OTS okay pomegranate seed pomegranate seeds we're going to go out of six yep um you know I'm going to say four that's what I was thinking yeah cuz it's a really enjoyable read but I feel like we missed an opportunity with some of the World building okay of like an explanation for why is Olympus separate from the rest of the world where did these Wards come from you know yeah stuff that isn't really necessarily relevant to the story but this is a
series so it follows other members of the 13 I haven't read any of the other ones I wonder if there's more World building like if we get more explanation in future books right so I don't know if that happens or if it takes away from future stories that we don't know it it might be totally irrelevant touche I don't know maybe maybe a future character does end up at UC Berkeley maybe who can say but I actually I felt the same just listening to the review I was like I haven't read it but I'm
feeling I was like more than like average like and not one where're like it was one out of six we should have burned it big yikes like but I was like that really enjoyable but also some plot holes yeah okay four out of six final offer um let us know what y'all think what you would rate it mhm more or less would you do Thrones instead of pomegranate seeds if you tell us you would rate a any any puppy Parts just don't puppy Parts puppy parts please no puppy Parts but if you
recommend the second book which I think is electric Idol um let me know cuz I haven't read it but I will if somebody tells me it's decent should Hannah keep reading the series yeah keep me posted did yeah thanks guys have a great day thanks for listening by mlut bye well that's it for this week's mut [ __ ] we hope it was good for you cuz it sure was great for us if you're digging what we're doing it would mean a lot if you'd take a minute to rate and review the
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