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Slides vs. Swings: a playground debate

Nov 21, 202438 min
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In a spirited debate, comedians Tim Platt and Fareeha Khan champion slides and swings, respectively, in a battle for playground supremacy. Judge Henry evaluates their arguments through rounds like Declaration of Greatness, Pundemonium, and a Sneak Attack challenge, ultimately awarding the win to Team Swings in a close decision based on the final six-word summaries. The episode also features listener submissions, shout-outs, and a Renaissance Fair interlude discussing logical fallacies.

Episode description

Today’s debate is a beastly battle between two playground legends. It’s Slides vs. Swings! Comedian Tim Platt zooms towards glory for team slides while comedian, actor and writer Fareeha Khan soars through the sky for team swings. Who will be crowned the Smash Boom Best? Head on over to smashboom.org and vote to tell us who YOU think won!


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It can be hard to unwind your mind, but the Brains On Universe is here to help. Check out Moment of Calm in the Moment of Unpodcast feed. For the week of March 3rd, you'll hear Moment of Um episodes with soothing topics and special quiet music. Perfect for playing at bedtime or any time you need some chill in your life. And on Friday, March 7th, you'll hear a special story with music and sound.

that will take your imagination on a magical, relaxing journey. Tune in to Moment of Calm by listening to Moment of Um, the week of March 3rd, or follow the Moment of Um in your podcast app to make sure you don't miss an episode. From the brains behind Brains On, it's Smash Boom Best. The show for people with big opinions. Hi, I'm Molly Bloom, and this is Smash Boom Best.

the show where we take two things, smash them together, and ask you to decide which one is best. Today's debate is a beastly battle between two playground legends. It's slides versus swings. In one corner, we've got comedian Tim Platt ready to sizzle for team slides. Yeah, I'm going to slide into first place because I mean to win this competition.

And in the other, comedian, actor, and writer for Rhea Kahn is here to soar for Team Swings. Hey gang, let's swing our way to the stars today. I love magic. And here to judge it all is Henry from Columbus, Ohio. Henry is on his school's debate team, has a hamster named Pop Rocks, and once got to miss school for a whole week for a show he was in. So Henry, what made you want to start debating?

Smash them best. Wow. I'm really honored that we inspired you to start debating. I want to know about Pop Rocks. Does Pop Rocks have a sizzling personality? Well, she certainly does. She is. Always around. And whenever she's in her ball, she always just wanders. I mean, one time she even got out of the cage and was around the house for like two days. Two days? Oh my gosh. We caught her though. She's back. She's back in her cage. She's back in her cage. Oh, Pop Rocks.

Wanted to explore. So have you been on both swings and slides in your life? I most certainly have. Do you have any like favorite swing or slide experiences you'd like to share? Well, my dad built a swing set in our backyard, so obviously that always has been a fun thing to do. Just when I have free time, I go outside, listen to music, and swing. I love slides. They're just awesome for all occasions, especially in water slides, which I'm hoping those count. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So...

You're an experienced debater now, and you've been listening to Smashing Best for a long time. Do you have any advice for our debaters today? Well, I just wanted to say from my debate coach, no absolutes. And also, you always want to keep a nice, happy tone. You never want to make it sound really bad. Okay, we don't want to go negative. Yes, never negative.

And the absolutes, can you just describe a little bit more about why absolutes are a bad idea? Yes. So absolutes, they can be rebutted very easily in a regular debate. if you use an absolute and the other team has a way to Negate that. You are in a lot of trouble. So if you're like, that's never happened. And then your opponent's like, actually, it happened a couple times. You've dug yourself into a very, very deep hole.

That is great advice. Well, will Henry side with Tim or Faria? Only time will tell. But first, here are the rules of the game. Every debate consists of four rounds, the declaration of greatness, the micro round, the sneak attack, and the final. After each round, our judge Henry will award points to the team that impresses him the most, but he'll keep his decisions top secret until the end of the debate.

Listeners, we want you to judge too. Mark down your points as you listen. At the end of the show, head to our website, smashboom.org, and vote for whichever team you think won. All right, Tim, Faria, and Henry. Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Ready to go. I'm ready. Then it's time for the Declaration of Greatness.

In this round, our debaters will present a well-crafted, immersive argument in favor of their side. Then they'll each have 30 seconds to rebut their opponent's statements. We flipped a coin, and Tim, you're up first. Tell us what makes slides so spectacular. Growing up, I was always a slide kid. I remember this park I went to, and it had everything. There was a miniature train, a spinning set of monkey bars.

It even had a talking, pig-shaped trash can called Porky the Litter Eater. Hi, kids. I'm Porky the Litter Eater, and I sure like to eat. And in the center of it all, like a big, shiny beacon. was the biggest metal slide I'd ever seen. I remember the first time my parents let me go down it. Wow, that's the biggest metal slide I've ever seen. Mom, Mom, can I go? I think you're ready, Tim.

Go for it. Yahoo! This is the best day of my life! They grow up so fast. When I finally went down that huge slide, it was like a rite of passage. For the first time... I felt like a big kid. Climbing those stairs up to the top was like my Mount Everest. After taking so long to climb, I flew to the bottom so fast. I couldn't wait to climb up and do it all over again. But...

Over in the corner of the park, well, that's where the swings were, I had this friend. Let's call her... Faree... Shmariha. She was a... Swings, kid. I'd be sliding down the slide, having the time of my life, and then Shmaria would just be swinging, swinging, swinging back and forth all day. Slide, on the other hand, make you feel like you're really doing something.

Swings are so repetitive. Back and forth and back and forth until it's time to go inside. Boring. With slides, there's anticipation. You climb up and stand at the top and the... wind in your hair, the excitement builds, and when you slide down, it's a real payoff. Yahoo! This is the best... And once your feet hit the bottom, you can just go and do something else on the playground. Slides are like a perfect course in the feast of fun that is recess. Welcome to Shea Recess.

Tonight's specials are an amuse-bouche of the monkey bars, a side salad of the delicious cedar plank seesaw. So good. And to pair with that, might I recommend a main course consisting of a full-body... trip down the slide. Yes, please. Speaking of variety, slides come in all shapes and sizes from tiny plastic playground slides to big metal ones to huge towering slides like the famous 60 foot long wooden slide at Philadelphia.

Smith Playhouse. That was one of the first slides ever built on a playground in 1904. Step right up, folks. Experience the talk of the playground world. The slide. Who needs swings with all that pesky leg puppet? A slide doesn't work for you. Just walk on up and slide on down. You there, man. with a scowl. What do you say? Care for a slide today? You kids and your newfangled technologies? Mark my words, slides will never catch on.

Next, you'll probably say those new cars are going to replace my horse and buggy. And we haven't even talked about the real Ace in the Hole. Two words. Water slides. Try the Rise of Icarus water slide in Wisconsin. It is the biggest water slide in the United States, standing almost 150 feet tall. Or try the Reef Plunge slide in Florida, where riders zoom in clear tubes with a huge tank filled with dolphins and tropical fish. And slides aren't just exciting, they bring people together.

They teach us how to share and take turns, which helps us learn how to become a better person. And they teach us about working hard to reach a goal. The pure joy of getting at the bottom of the slide is always worth the effort of climbing up that ladder or stairs. Whether you're playing in a big group or just by yourself, there's just no substitute for a slide. It's the pinnacle of the people's playground. Wow.

That argument for slides was quite the ride. Henry, what stood out to you about Tim's argument? Well, I love the part where he talked about slides possibly being like a main course of the park. As a person who adores food, I can tell you that that was a very compelling and delicious argument. Okay. My compliments to the chef. And in this case, I mean you. Speaking of food, I'm also stuck on that pig trash can that eats garbage, but we'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that later. Faria.

It's time for your rebuttal. Tell us why slides should hide. You've got 30 seconds, and your time starts now. Sure, Tim, slides are fun, but you can only go one at a time. OK, and that big metal slide you were talking about from the playground you went to. Now that slide on a hot summer's day, it's going to burn your buns right off. Skin is lost in the process. Yet with a swing, you can swing up and out of this day into another dimension. And simply being in motion can make your mind feel...

Different. Oh, yeah. I got a few things to say about this. One at a time? Yeah, well, at least one at a time we know exactly the length of time that someone's going to be on the slide. If someone's on the swing, they can take as long as they want going that back and forth. You could be in one person line and it'd take half an hour. Lost skin?

Yeah, that could be a problem. I love it that could be a problem. I love it that could be a problem. And I appreciate you bringing it up. You know, what's a little fun with that little pain, okay? We can agree with that. Another dimension. You want to go to another dimension? I like to stay in the here and now. I like to stay.

on this planet, on this Earth. And as I stay on this planet, I want to see the highest points and the lowest, which this slide gives you ample opportunity to see. Whoa. All right. Faria. It is your turn now. Please tell us why swings are king. Oh, hey there. You just stumbled on the 2024 Swing Family Reunion. Lucky you. We've got swings from all over gathering to spend time with family. Over here, we've got Tire Swing from Texas sipping some sweet tea. Howdy. Over there is Old Man Porch Swing.

I used to be FDR's porch swing. Now those were the days. And of course, there's little playground swing having a high-flying time. Look at me! Look at me! Mom! And me, I'm just a humble hammock swing. It means the world to me that my family has come together to celebrate the love that is swings. Wow! Swings really come in an impressive variety of shapes and sizes. And this playground favorite has been delighting people for thousands of years.

Swings have been around for so long that it's hard to say who invented them. They've appeared all over the globe at different times. The ancient Greeks used them. The ancient Egyptians used them. And they were huge in the 80s, so ancient Americans used them too. Just ask your parents. Straight up, if you were cool back in the day, you were probably riding a swing. And they weren't just fun rides. Swings were part of art displays.

cultural ceremonies and celebrations. In ancient China, swings were used in festivals and acrobatic displays just like today. Look at that strong, elegant woman flying through the air back and forth. How is she doing that? Is she a wizard? A god? An angel come to earth? It's just a little girl riding a swing. We really need to get you some glasses. She's magnificent.

People all over the world love swings, and they use them in different ways. Some are just great to look at, like the giant swings in Thailand, which were once used to reenact the Hindu creation of the earth, but are now just a cool tour. attraction? Look at that gorgeous swing. I'd ask to swing on it, but like I said, it's just too gorgeous.

Others are used for sports, like in Estonia, where they have a swing game called keeking. In this game, a person is fastened to a swing and has to swing all the way over the top to win. Welcome back to the SportsZone. We've got top Keeking athlete Amber Flip here to tell us how she won today's match. Well, first I went up and then I went down. Then I went up and then I went down. Then I went up. Let me guess. Then you went down again.

What? No. I kept going up and went over the swing because I am a champion. Incredible. Coming up next, we have a report on today's international slide competition where everyone came in last. Now the swing you're probably most familiar with is the good old playground swing. And it's a good thing we have them because kids get so much out of swinging. It teaches them about rhythm and full body coordination, strengthens the core, helps build motor skills, and most importantly,

teaches you how to play with your friends. On a slide, you're by yourself hurtling to the ground like a spitball through a straw. But on a swing, You can be by yourself or side by side with your friends. Most swing sets have multiple seats, so you can fly with your fellows, soar with your schoolmates, ascend with your associates. What a delight. As a kid, I used to swing with my friends all the time. We'd have

epic swinging competitions to see how high we could fly. We would have had slide competitions, but unfortunately, a slide only caters to one person at a time. Truly isolating ride if you ask me. Whether it's a crowd looking for a show or friends looking for some fun, swings are the treat that comes with a seat. Oh, that went back and forth and back and forth, and it felt so very good. Excellent work. Henry, what stood out to you about Faria's Declaration of Greatness?

Well, I really liked all the social stuff. In the swing set in my backyard, me and my brother would always swing together. We would sing songs and see who could swing the highest. And I would do that with my friends as well on the school playground. Yeah, I really relate to that. Excellent. Well, Tim, it is time for your rebuttal. Tell us why swings stink. You've got 30 seconds and your time starts now. Faria begins by saying swings are old.

Cool, I guess. So they belong in museums and everywhere else except the backyard. Yeah, we talk about all these different cool swings you could do that you have to be an Olympic athlete to use well, like swinging all the way around.

A slide is for everybody. I don't need to strengthen my core to use a slide. And in terms of this community thing, yeah, the community you get by waiting in line for someone who's taking half an hour to use their swing and won't get off. Yeah, this is a community that is based on the person who... in control of the swing at the time while the slay is equal for everybody. I'm just a bit blown away, honestly. And I disagree with the way you described.

The swings, the swings is for community. It's not an isolated experience the way the slide is, and I just disagree with that. I guess if I can, may I just say real quick that, you know, shirts for community is a community that are chosen.

by the most powerful. That is not true. That is not true. A little community, but it's more part of the privileged. You're talking about it from a New York City perspective. There are many places all over the country where there are many swings for every man and child. And woman. And non-binary person. Okay, Henry, you've heard a lot. It's a heated debate so far. It's excellent. There's a lot to think about, but... It is time to award some points. Please give one point.

to the declaration of greatness that you liked best and one point to the rebuttal that won you over. You get to decide what makes a winning argument. Did one team's jokes make you giggle? Was another team's logic impeccable? your points, but don't tell us who they're going to. Have you made your decision? Yes, I have. Ooh, excellent. Free and Tim, how are you two feeling so far? Just want to say...

In the spirit of competition, things get intense, then we get passionate about our side, but I respect my competitor. Yes. I respect you too, Tim. You're a friend of mine. I don't want to take you down too hard. I accept that playful jab. And I will say, I will say also that I actually am a big supporter of core strength.

And so I was very interested here bringing it up. And the older I get, the more I realize the value of core strength helps the whole body. But it's time for a quick break. Climb up the stairs and get your legs pumping. And we'll be right back with more Smash. Boom Best. You're listening to State of Debate, home to rage and rhetoric and awe-inspiring argumentation.

Good morrow, debaters of state. Tis I, Todd Douglas. And I, Taylor Lincoln. And we're speaking all Shakespearean because we're at the Renaissance Fair. I can finally wear my elf ears, not to mention our super snazzy matching fairy wings. The green really brings out your eyes, Todd. So far, it's been a blast. Except we just spotted a logical fallacy. Logical fallacies make arguments easy to defeat. And we just saw one yonder at ye olde cabbage stand. Check it out.

Ooh, that cabbage looks divine. I've never seen blue cabbage before. Only red or green. Is blue cabbage a ye olde cabbage stand special? Good observation. I know this cabbage looks blue, but it's actually red cabbage. What the what? Well, red foods like cabbage get their color from acids.

So when we heat it up in a pan or boil it in water, the acid cooks off the cabbage and it turns blue. I don't believe it. It's science. And look, you can add the red color back to the cabbage by adding more acid, like some of this vinegar. See? It's turning red again. Pretty cool, huh? Gizmo, I simply can't believe that Cabbage does this naturally. Therefore, it must be magic. Magic, I say. It's simply science. No tomfoolery here.

We just spotted the personal incredulity fallacy. That's when someone says something isn't true just because they find it difficult to understand. Just because you don't understand how something works, that doesn't mean you can dismiss it entirely. Right. That's why it's important to ask questions like, how does that work? Or can you give me another example? Or, hey, Taylor, want to split a giant turkey leg? No. We'll catch you next time on State of Debate.

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You're listening to Smash Boom Best. I'm your host, Molly Bloom. And I'm your judge, Henry. And we love getting debate suggestions from our listeners. Take a listen to this wild debate idea from Jack. Hi, my name is Jack and I am wondering if we can... And now it's back to our debate. Slides versus swings.

That's right. And it's time for round two, the micro round. For the micro round challenge, each team has prepared a creative response to a prompt they received in advance. For Tim and Faria, the prompt was... Pundemonium, where each debater had to come up with three puns for their side. Tim went first last time, so Faria, you're up first. Let's hear your first pun for Team Swings.

Sometimes you're trying to swing higher than the kid next to you, but you can't do it. That's what we call a swing and a miss. Cheers. Okay, Tim, now it's your turn. Let's hear your first pun for team slides. I can totally see myself getting married someday. But instead of kissing the bride, I prefer, and you're not going to believe this, to kiss the slide. Because I want to be married to a fun time at the park. Wow. Check next to that. Wait till your wife hears that. She'd respect it.

All right, Faria, let's hear your second pun. When I'm feeling down, I like to have a nice swing session because it helps me feel uplifted. Oh, man. Excellent work. All right, Tim, now it's your turn for your second pun. My friend recently lied to me. I didn't appreciate it. Then I had another friend slide with me. And you're not going to believe this. I didn't appreciate it. Wait your turn. I slide alone.

Ah, the individualist pursuit comes back for more. I guess I believe in rugged individualism. Yeah, you're a real capitalist. With restraints. Just like my dad. All right, Faria, let's hear your final pun for team swings. Okay, okay, look, I'm an introvert, but sometimes I like to pop by my friend's house for a few hours, then go back to exploring my own world. I just swing on by. We eat snacks.

I play with their super cute cat, Fluffy, and then sometimes we go for a walk together. Little doses of happiness with your friends is fun. When you can swing it, double bun mic drop! That's a double pun. Sorry about it, brother. Okay, Tim, it's your last chance to give us a pun for Team Slides. In ancient Rome, the 15th of March was known as the Ides of March. For me, and you're not going to believe this, the 15th slide of March is known as March 1st. I go down 15 slides a day, you see.

Oh, my goodness. Oh, excellent work. Or should I say wonderful work, both of you. Henry, what did you like about Tim and Faria's micro rounds? Well, I thought that they were... Very funny in their own special way. Thank you, Henry. Thank you, Henry. They weren't just like simple puns. They were very exaggerated and... Story-like puns. Yes, they had narrative. It was very impressive. And for Tim, you said something about the Ides of March and... Yes. Don't disrespect my birthday again. Oh!

Your birthday? Wow. Oh my gosh. Well, I didn't know. I didn't know. I mean, of course, no disrespect at all. In fact, much respect. The 15th, it has a special name. If you think about it, it's actually respect to your birthday. Can I add some water, please? Don't worry. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Oh, man. All right. Henry, this is going to be a hard decision, but it's time to award a point. Have you made your decision? I think that I have.

Fantastic. Then it's time for our third round, the super stealthy Sneak Attack. This is our improvised round where debaters have to respond to a challenge on the spot. Today's sneak attack is called dinglehopper. Your challenge is to list three uses for your side other than what they're really used for.

For example, if your side is marshmallows, you could be like, marshmallows make the most amazing beds ever. You've never laid on anything so plush. You'll volley back and forth, and we'll start with Tim. Debaters. Does this make sense? Yes. Yes. All right. Tim, let's hear your first alternative use for slides.

A lesson in friction. Have you ever climbed up the slide part of the slide? That's going to teach you not only a whole lot about friction and surfaces and surface tension, but also climbing up the front of the slide. You are working muscles that you have never... known in your life weird arm muscles weird leg muscles and actually now that I think about it

Probably your core too. So if you're going up the slide from the opposite direction, not only are you going to learn about the physics of this world, but also you're going to give yourself a workout the likes of which have never been seen. Wow. A workout for your brain and your body. Faria, it's your turn. What else can swings be used for? Let's say you have to deliver a package to a bird. And you needed to do it yesterday.

You're pumping your legs on this swing. Bam, you're there. Tell the bird to meet you there. Three o'clock, top of the spot. And you hand them the package. Bing, bang, boom, done. Package received by Bird. Oh, so good. All right, Tim, it is your turn. What's your next alternative use for slides? Let's say you have to deliver a message to a groundhog.

And they're straight down the ground. How are you going to get them out? You don't have a drill. Wait a minute. Do you have a heavy rock and a slide? Push that rock down the slide again and again and again. And eventually you will dig through the pressure. of the rock down the slide into the ground. You will dig a hole deep into the center of the earth where the groundhog is waiting patiently for their message.

Okay. Practical. All right, Faria, it's your turn. What's your next alternative use for swings? Well, we mentioned that swinging can be a bit of a meditative activity. Let's say you're on the swing. You're clearing your head. All of a sudden, next thing you know, you're connecting to the angels around you. You're getting down low. You're getting your most creative ideas yet. You're about to make the best comic idea play of your life.

You go to the swings, it brings out your creative genius. Yeah, I'm talking touch the sky. Oh, wonderful. All right, Tim, it is time for your final dinglehopper for slides. You know, I've been combative this whole time, but I love my friend Faria. I got so much love for people. In fact, I think this world needs more love. In fact, I think this world needs so much love that I would love it.

personally, if we could spell the word love in big letters, you know, we can make a big L, that's easy. We can make a big O, big O's anywhere. But a big V. Where can I find a big V to spell love? Wait a minute, if I just turn this slide upside down... I suddenly have the big V in the big spelled out love. And for an E, I can invite you to engage with your own imagination if I always use in there. But for the V, for the V, an upside down slide might just be the take.

And now look at me. I'm on a plane up into the sky. And I look down and I see the word love. The world has changed for the better. Thanks to Slides. All right. It is time for your final dinklehopper for swings. Thank you so much. And listen, I love my buddy Tim. He's got a mind of his own, I'll tell you. The way that the things that come out of this guy's mind, I just say, whoa, I didn't expect that one. But here's the...

You actually inspired me, my friend. Because the E in the word love you are looking to spell could be seen by three swings, three best friends on the three swings on the playground. swinging each at an angle that creates the perfect E to end the word love. The world is better for swings on the playground as well. And friendship is... Yet again at the center. This is love. This is teamwork. This is friendship. This is beautiful. But Henry, only one of them can receive a point. So.

You're going to have to think about which side impressed you the most and award your fourth point for this sneak attack. Have you made your decision, Henry? Boy, this was a hard one, but I have. Wonderful. Then it's time for our final round. The final six. In this round, each team will have just six words to sum up the glory of their side. All right, Faria, let's hear your six words for the sweetness of a swing. Swing to the stars.

And enjoy. Very nice. All right, Tim, it's your turn. Tell us why slides are so sublime using just six words. Climb up, slide down, you're perfect. Oh, man, these are so good. And that you can be anyone. That you can be Henry, that you can be the listener, that you can be the slide itself. I'm open to your interpretation. All right, Henry, it is time to award a final point for this final six.

Have you made your decision? Yes, I have. All right, tally up those points, my friend. Are you ready to crown one team to smash boom best? I have tallied. All right. Drum roll, please. And the winner is... Swings. Oh, my God! Wow. I could not be more elated. Oh, well, I'm happy for you. Great job, Henry. Great job. Thank you, Henry. I really respect your take. Appreciate your time. Yeah, yeah. No, Tim.

You did a really good job earlier. Thank you so much. You did such a good job. You were so crazy. great too thank you you made it hard you brought a lot of strong arguments i was sweating i'll tell you the whole time uh yeah well i am just i'm really honored henry that i won you over can i ask you what it was yeah yeah actually actually Henry, I would also like to know what it was. What was it? Was it the magical element? I will say it came down to the final six as a tiebreaker.

Wow. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. As close as close can be. Those six were perfect. Wait, wait, well, how'd you decide? How'd you decide? So the final six, I really liked your... swing to the stars and enjoy. I thought that was just awesome. I love yours too, Tim. Don't worry. But it was as close as close can be. Both had two points up to that moment. Certainly was. I appreciate it, Henry. I appreciate it. And if I could just say I respect your choice. You have been a diligent and fair and...

logical judge. And I appreciate that. And even in loss, even in loss, it is a privilege to be treated fairly in this world. And you treated us both fairly, I think. Thank you. what I want to say the same thing thank you for the opportunity Henry and Tim you were a great competitor and so were you in fact and people at home can't see this because they can't see anything that's happening but

We're shaking each other's hands. You can't hear it either because it doesn't make a big sound. Let me try it. Maybe it makes a sound like we do this. Did you hear that? That's our hands being shook. Yeah. Well, that is it for today's debate battle. Henry Crown swings the Smash Boom Best, but what about you? Head to smashboom.org and vote to tell us who you think won. Smash Boom Best is brought to you by Brains On and APM Studios. It's produced by me, Molly Blue.

We had engineering help from Derek Ramirez, Gary O'Keefe, and Dalton Jones with sound design by Anna Wegel. Our editors are... And Charlotte Traver are executive producers. Tim, is there anyone... like to give a shout out to today? My kitty cat, Honeybee. My dog's name is Honeybee. Are you kidding me? No. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. All right, Freya, how about you? Any special shout outs?

I would like to give a shout out to my special kittens at home, Ziggy and Zuzu. Oh, and how about you, Henry? Any special thanks or shout outs? Yeah, I would love to dedicate this whole episode to Dexter, my brother. And as well as, if we're talking about pets, my dog, Peter.

my family, and my debate coach especially, Miss Daniel. Shout out, Miss Daniel. And the Dream Team, you know who you are. We won three trophies together for debate. Amazing. So this, uh... whole thing was because of them too. Aww. And Dexter, shout out to Dexter. Before we go, let's check in and see who Jack thinks should win the moose versus pheasant debate. I think moose will win because they are larger and have better defense. and are very interesting.

If you're between the ages of 13 and 18 and you'd like to be a judge, or if you're any age and you have an idea for a knockdown drag out debate, head to smashboom.org slash contact and drop us a line. And make sure to subscribe to Brains on Universe on YouTube where you can watch. animated versions of some of your favorite episodes. We'll be back with a new Smash Boom Best debate battle next week, Bluey versus Elmo. Bye-bye. Yeesh. See you later, folks. Goodbye.

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