"Ryan Reynolds"

Hello, listener. My name is Jason Bateman. I am one of three hosts on SmartLess. The other two are late. As they are one to do, I am prompt. And I am also a fan of Stonefruit. You might not know what Stonefruit is, but it is a peach, a plum, a cherry, a nectarine. Things with stones in the middle of it. And right now, listener, they're glorious. And they are well in stock at your local market. You think I'm kidding, but the serenity

in my voice right now is prompted by the incredible fleshy Stonefruits I've had in the last half hour. Welcome to SmartLess. SmartLess SmartLess SmartLess SmartLess SmartLess Go ahead, Sean. I was just going to ask you, so you listen to Italian rap. Sure, that's like a real thing. Yeah, I listen to Italian rap. I listen to French rap. Well, because you can't understand, you can understand French, but I don't think you speak Italian.

I don't speak Italian. I wish I did. So why, what's the draw? The draw is, it's about a lifestyle. Well, hip hop, no matter where it is about a lifestyle, Sean. So cool it. And I can tell by the way you look that you're really, you understand that. What did this way? You see me on a scooter in downtown Naples rolling with my crew. Can I ask you on his question? Ask me when you want my hair, my hat. I was wear a hat. No, it was about me. Oh, sorry.

How would it, how would I look with a neck tattoo? To me, no different than you look now. No different. Jason, we're rolling. Sorry, sorry. That was a long walk. Oh, I guess so from one wing to the other. We're rolling. We're rolling right now. You're on the show right now, Jason. Yeah, you're a little late, Jason. Will, do you ever wear like long sleeve shirts? You're always in a T-shirt, always every 20 hours. I'm in a climate controlled house.

You know, do you not have climate? What's going on? Are you just? No, I do, but I do. But we can be in a world with, you know, Thoreau could be the third leg on this, on this tripod. And we'd have to deal with those sleeves at all. So can you imagine Jason, are you, are you having a coffee? Is that what your beverages? Yeah, and I think it's a little late for the coffee. I get, I get more irritable than usual. What's the later I drink coffee, but I'm going to try it. It's late right now. I know.

I get all sweaty. Well, we have a guest here. Wait a second. We're rolling. Yeah, we got a guest here. Are you guys? Our guest is, so I don't know. It's tough to describe our guest because this person does so many things. Our guest started on a show that might be close to your heart. I'm not sure a show called Hillside. Four seasons. Hillside blues? Four seasons on Hillside. I think in this country it was called 15.

It's one of those shows that had different names in different countries. But American person? Well, this person is a person you, is not an American person. This is a person who lives in America. But this is a person who, well, strangely enough, comes from just north of the border where I'm from. Oh, so it's one of three people. So this is a, this is a, this person is an entrepreneur. Oh, this person is a, is a visionary.

Oh boy, is a business visionary. He's got his hands in, in mobile phones. He's got his hands in the booze industry. He's now got his hands in Welsh football. This is a guy. Oh, forgot this is America. Reynolds. And this is your buddy. Oh, my God. Look at him. Look at him. I was. I hadn't even gotten to his looks yet. He is too hot for a podcast. It's Ryan.

Oh, we're sleeves today, guys. Wait, not Ryan in week one of this COVID baby we call smartless. I think I sent you a text that said, listen, I know you love to do podcasts. So we're happy to accommodate you when you was, it was a sarcastic sort of passive aggressive pitch to never heard back from you. Yeah, well, the fucking pandemic, baby. Well, but shit was go I was batting on the hatches. Appropriate response, appropriate response. By the way, I'm still hung up on hillside blues picture.

Me and Dennis friends as a couple of angsty teenagers going to puberty together. Don't, but don't skirt the issue here. I wait. So I get a no, I don't even get a no. I just get a no response. But you say yes, Tarnat. You and I are so close to the fucking will in you. Let me, let me, let me reset the table here. Can I reset the table? Yeah, this will be quick.

Better. I back up. You guys just wait. I have never been in a room virtual or otherwise with three people. This is going to hurt who have it. Many points in my life caused me to fall over weeping with laughter. This is one of the, this is a moment. We're off doing great. Each one of you time. That's very nice. Have made a adult diaper requisite wardrobe for the table. Go around the table. Go around the table.

This guy is really truly let him finish. Bateman was the first person when I moved to Los Angeles that was kind to me that I found that was kind. I was 18 years old and I had just just just of hairless freshly wax eyebrows were exquisite. And got to Los Angeles. I ended up in this manager's office that would never in a million years take me. But in walks Jason Bateman and just out of nowhere. Ask me where I'm from when I'm doing here. I think I said hey friend.

I started with hey friend. You could see my soul visibly exiting my body. He always talks to wandering teens that's always been one of his. It's it really is the hallmark of a truly dynamic predator. Hey, hairless, vulnerable, innocent looking friend. Come this one brings you to the office. You look like you could use a ride. But he did not he did not drive a panel van. So Batman was kind to you. So Batman spoke to you and you knew him at that point from all his.

Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman. Ryan, did you move out here cold? I mean, did you did you have a reason to move out or did you just move out to me? He was coming off hillside. Otherwise known as 50 hillside blues. What is hillside and where what is in Lawrence Pressman? You know smashing it together. I just just thrown out all the fun going deep cuts on the on the.

Now listen, Ryan, did you remember the first time we met? I remember very well. The first time we met in person. Do you remember start to nod politely? Where was that? It was at a gym. Oh, in equinox and Santa Monica. Thank you for an ox. Equinox and Santa Monica. Yeah. And you know what my thought was I was in there just I was moving some waiter and obviously I'm no stranger to a gym. And we don't need to get into that. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm just like, wait a minute. What you shut the hell up? So I'm I mean there. Yeah. And I'm feeling I'm feeling kind of good about myself. Sure. Yeah. And all Brian Reynolds has as dax likes to call him to his face, which always makes me laugh because it's just not funny. And I do it too. Ryan comes in and I'm like, this motherfucker is so handsome and he's so strong. And I look like it. I like pretty quickly like, I'm going to put these 20s down and I'm just going to leave.

He was actually only an ankle weights. Will was wearing nothing but ankle weights. But right. What about my question? Did you did you move to L.A. to be? What was my question? Did you actually move because you had an offer for something or did you move to start a career here? No, I mean, I was working it safe way grocery store at the time in Vancouver. I didn't even quit. I just I just left went on break.

I'd gone to college. I'm not making this up for 45 minutes. I walked in and I just went. Nope. And I went right back, pulled one more all night shift. It's safe way. And then the next day just got in my car and drove to Los Angeles. What department. Yeah, exactly. Will you check out or will you box boy or no. I did train as a cashier. But I was actually stocking shelves midnight to 8 am. I was we're going to save your shift. Yeah. Yeah.

So everything is perfectly smooth and flat. Yeah. Make it ever like just open a box a cereal and just house it when nobody is looking. Most of the time is food fights. I mean, some of the people I worked with in it's safe way. There's a graveyard shift is safe way at 25th and oak. They know who they are. Some of the funniest human beings. I bet. Yeah. I've ever been around some big laughs. I bet you had some huge. I'm not joking.

Are you still friends with any of your co-workers there? I don't keep in touch with men. I kept friends with a lot of people that I went to high school with. But like that was an odd group because we only saw each other in the pitch black midnight hours. So all cooked up and stacking. Oh god. Oh, I think I'll do that. Stacking and not with. So are you really still friends with even if you're friends with five friends from high school. I admire that. I wish I was better at that.

I'm still in touch with my high school girlfriend who's now, you know, married with three kids. I'm in touch with my one of my best friends, Peters or Beano's that I went to school with my whole life since little league. Basically, no Ryan. This is be honest and because she won't hear this high school girlfriend. How hard is she kicking herself right now? I mean, do you think it's I think she married a surgeon. She's doing all right. Oh, she made it. Okay. And she herself is a prolific educator.

She's doing really well. She's really does. The surgeon have a back on him like you do. Yeah. My god, yes. That guy had thighs like Earl Campbell. I mean, he was just an absolute shredder on the football field. Did he steal her from you? No, he did not know we were together in 10th grade and broke up in 11th grade. They got together after relationships run hot in 10th.

Yeah, I was too busy working with Dennis friends. When you when you got here, like tell us because I love little origin stories like from actors because I did the same thing. I just got my car. I'd never even been here before. You never driven a car. Yeah, what kind of car did you rock out here from?

A Toyota Corolla. And let me tell you something really quick story. When I got the pilot of Will and Grace, they had a kickoff dinner and I drove my Corolla and the only place you could park it was devalue at this one restaurant.

And I was so embarrassed because the window was out the hubcap was missing. All that was disgusting. I was dense everywhere. And I made sure I got there before everybody else. I went in and had a dinner with with the cast of Will and Grace and Jimmy Burrows and everybody.

And I so embarrassed. I didn't want to see me get the valet when I got out. So I left earlier. It was like guys. I'm sorry. I got to get a proly by I got out to the valet still waiting for my car. And one by one is taking forever one by one. Everybody else comes out. Now we're all standing in a line. And my fucking car pulls up first one. And I go, what did you do to my car? Or wrong.

Yeah, this is. Yeah. It wasn't a Corolla. It was not a Toyota Corolla. Sean, how quickly will you try to pull off your coexist bumper? Because you believe. No, exist. I drew I drove a similar sensible sedan for years, even after I had a TV show. I remember I kept my little Nissan Centra and was just covered in the car. I was just like, I was just like the car was just like, I'm so like, like danger to to the bottom was out and you just moved it with your feet like Fred Flint.

So Ryan, so you move here and you had done a show. You done it. It was sort of like a YA show for a few years. And that was like your first big adult for Wisconsin. And then, and then, so you move here and then you get two guys, a girl, originally known as two guys, a girl in a pizza place that which they dropped the pizza place. Great show. Great show. Great show. And I remember seeing you on that show. I remember auditioning for that show. I remember.

Come on. Did you get it? Did you really? Yeah, I think I did get it. Yeah. I think we did. I forget how many seasons. Well, Ryan, I'll tell you. I think four and a half seasons. But Ryan, I remember how, and this is no joke, how funny you were. It was undeniable. You're such a funny. I watched that show all the time. I thought you were. Yeah, the timing is like a Swiss watch. His timing is impeccable.

A surgeon. Here's what I want to know. Right. And the reason I bring this up is this because you've gone on. You've had. I think a super interesting career. And I think that you've, you've always no matter what, you're always good and everything you do. And everybody does things that sometimes they don't, you know, you. I remember somebody describing a movie, a bad movie. You're like, well, I thought we were going over here. Oh, we're going over here.

There are certain things that are out of your control. What you can control is you're always really, really good. And I've always thought you were super funny. Like, like, Baman said, your timing is incredible. I feel like you are depriving the world of more just pure comedy. Look, I love seeing you in the action stuff. I love seeing you kick ass and you do bring humor to those parts. But fuck, man, you could absolutely crush pure comedy. I think you're so fucking funny.

He's going with this is please do another sitcom. Is that the question? Well, I would love to do another sitcom. Best job I've ever had in my life. Best job I've ever had there. Yes. You know, it's really is the greatest job in the world. Absolutely. Reasonable hours live audience. You know, fun. You get to. And the reason I moved to answer Sean's question, I'm going to Los Angeles was to join the groundlings, which is a, you know, 18 year old moron.

I thought I could just show up there and they would put me on the stage. But the groundlings is like second city. It's an improv. Yeah. Yeah. We're a Saturday night live. Are you telling that to Ryan? He moved here to go. I'm telling us why are you explaining it to him? Did you get into groundlings? No, they were like, of course not. They were like, you got to get in this class.

You can't. I was like, I don't have enough money to sit in the class. I need to make some dough. So you're so you're in the class of groundlings. How you what's your day job? Did you go to Albertsons and Vons and say, hey, I got a pretty good tenure and pretty well. Well, see the go in here guys. I know how to work a manual forklift. Like no, I know how to close a wound with crazy glue like no one else.

Did you what what what was your first day job out here? I had no day job because I had no work permit. So I couldn't just walk into a Anyplace and well knows this. You can't just walk so you have to you need to work permit. So actually I got a I went looking for an agent to see if I could Get sent out on a couple of auditions and maybe that way they would sponsor me. And that's when you met Teen Wolf 2.

Well, that's exactly what I met Teen Wolf 2. Come on really? That was I know I just been rejected from the groundlings. And the next day I met you. And then when I met Jason. You got hit. That you got hit on by a weird. No, he saw the look of pure unadulterated panic in my face. And you know, he asked whoever it was at that management company. My number and left me a voice. This is back when you had answering machines. He left me an answering machine message.

Just saying, hey, if you ever need anything, here's my number. I know you saw you. Are you serious? Is that for a rest it for that nowadays? That is a random act of kindness right there unlike any. Jason known this guy for a long time. And he's this is something he does though. He doesn't like to admit it or talk about it. But Jason Bateman has got a wake of decades of random acts of kindness. Oh, no, no, he has such a squishy center to him. And Ryan, I told this. When was it come on?

Once ago, Sean, when I heard my back and Jason showed up with like stuff for my came to the house. Yeah. So just showed up an announce and he's got like stuff for my back and all this kind of and very, very sweet. So that doesn't surprise me. Does freak me out a little freaks you out when I said, but the deal is I need to apply it. I like to do that. I was a back pad. I have like 25 things aching on me right now and wrong with my body and Jason sent over Nia Sporen, but not in person.

And a bill and invoice. How is your shoulder, Sean? I heard you have a rotten shoulder. I do. How do you know that? I listen to the podcast. Yeah. I have a bad shoulder. I don't respond to Bavins text about it. What about now what about speaking of the pot? What about Maccalaini and you own a I'll say it football team.

Football club, a Welsh football club. Well, sorry. Well. And you're doing and you're going to do you're going to do a documentary to your documentary like following you guys around the trials and tribulations of of of propping this team up to the next level. Yes. To a certain degree. Yeah. It's not so much about we're not really centered in it as much. I mean, we're in it. But it's really about this community in this town. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, they're sort of what what I found interesting about this particular type of football team is that they're inextricably linked with the community. So when the football team is suffering so as the community when the community suffering so as the football team. So if you can find a way to kind of

interconnect these two and raise them both up simultaneously. It's such an amazing has amazing and profound effect and a win win for everybody. So we we love the idea of you know sort of splitting our focus between community and the football club. You've seen Sunderland till I die. Obviously. I think I've seen every single football documentary. Yeah. Same same. And I think you always need a face man and like nobody can replace your face man. But you know,

it's great. You see what he just said guys. Thank you. I think I'll rewind that listener. Yeah. That was an 18 reference as well. Yeah. Just. You you in Rob are going to need somebody on the ground and look, look at the full time job. All I'm saying is. Yeah. Imagine a guy. We're losing you will you go over a candy. Yeah. Who can go in there. Imagine somebody who could inspire who can pull up lyrics. Whether they be smash mouth or thumb or

Italian rap or Italian rap. You heard. Oh, yeah. Of course you heard me talking about Italian rap. I love like I was saying I love origin stories and your story when you first arrived to Los Angeles. And so talk to us about the kind of when you got here and you said you got an agent was hoping to find a couple jobs.

But like when did it start taking off was was two girls in a guy the first kind of big thing that kind of led to other things and when did that ship kind of turn on in your head that's like wait a minute. I have to leverage all of this right now and or curable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're conflating two separate jobs that he did two girls in a guy was something that he's trying to expunge two guys a girl in a pizza. You're referencing a skin flick in upper Saskatchewan that he's still running from.

So we'll erase guys in a problem. I record a skin flick. So currently we have four total of four guys. How many pizza places do we have? What the fuck was the question? Oh, the two guys are going to pizza place. Yeah. When you were on that show is that when something clicked inside you that said, you know, I have to figure this out so this doesn't go away and it became this drive this ambition that you have to.

So when an actor is only, you know, we we thrive on our next job. We're always looking for our next gig. And I know when I was on one of the great so I was like, OK, God, I'm on the show. I have to make sure I keep working out because that's what I've always wanted to do. I'm going to be an actor. So did that click in for you was when you were on that show because you're so successful now and everything in so many different areas. When did that start?

No, I didn't. I mean, thank you, but I never had any. I was the very fortunate beneficiary of having zero expectations. So when I moved to Los Angeles, I wanted to join the ground. I didn't expect that I'd ever end up on a sitcom. And if I could get a set. I remember when I went and met this little agency in Los Angeles called the Paul Cohn or agency. Oh, yeah. I said, if you just send me out on five auditions, it's where God I will get one.

I said, I've sitcoms. I said, and they said, OK, sure. And I was just bluffing. I didn't think I'd actually get one, but I ended up getting this one. Two guys going to pizza place. And I'm my highest aspiration was to play the wacky neighbor. Yeah. You know, unlike on a what was the what was the predecessor to the CW? It was the UPN network. I was hoping to get as the wacky neighbor on like the UPN network. That's where my expectation was.

And that's still a pretty coming from where I came from. There's a pretty high expectation. You know, so the fact that I got on that show and it was one of the lead roles. And then I just learned so much as I went. And I've always kind of maintained that sort of minimal expectation thing, which has served me really well. What was your state of mind? So you do two guys a girl pizza place. They drop the pizza place. Obviously a lot of meetings went into that.

They drop that and there's just two guys a girl. And then and then you that show ends after four years, I think, is that right? Four and a half years here. Four and a half years. The show ends. It initially comes out as a huge hit. So it's a big hit and blah, blah, blah. And then shows happen things happen. So then all of a sudden it's like 2000. I don't know one or two or something when it ends, I think I think I got that right. I've tracked your career for a long time.

And so you find yourself you 2001, 2002. You're an equinox a lot in Santa Monica. And I know because I see you. And you're there and you do, but you you kind of shift you do Van Wilder. Is that what it's going for for lampoon? Definitely worth a rewatch listener. Yeah, another movie that would like it's not necessarily the greatest movie, but you're really good in that you get a lot of accolades for it.

Like people again, they point out, but what was your where did you think you were headed coming off the show? It's a very tricky time in an actor's life. As you know, when you come off a show and kind of like what Sean is saying, you come off a show and you're like, Oh, shit. Now what? Where what were you thinking? Did you in your wildest dreams think I'm going to become this Van Wilder? Yeah, great. Really nice. Thank you. Really, really great.

But what was that? What was that? Was it just day to day? Was it because you did Van Wilder? And then you did you did these blade movies where people were like, Oh my god, this guy's like an action star. Well, did you have a plan for any of that? Or you just know? Can you have imagined that you would achieve the success? You guys have plans. I don't know. I was too dumb for a plan. But me too. I was my plan was to keep this fucking heart beating. That was kind of it. I didn't.

I mean, I had no. When I was doing movies, I was still looking for another TV show. Like my real focus was my father's son, like, you know, lunch paylacks. Like I need another like a job that I know will last. This movie thing is stupid, you know? Right. Right. So I was always looking for the show. I was always trying to get back in the sitcom. I think I still am. Well, but I'll bet you. I mean, you're just you're two. You're too skilled and experienced now and clear on.

I think where you want to go and what you're capable of doing that at some point. You absorbed enough information and knowledge on a set to start to shape an appropriate and realistic kind of path for yourself. Like you're clearly enjoying being an entrepreneur, a producer, a star, a writer. So at some point it started to crystallize a bit for you what you were capable of doing and what your opportunities might be.

And if you really applied yourself dedicated yourself to it and treated yourself to being worthy of it, you know, in the best sense of the world. But I think everyone here on this podcast can relate. You know, nothing good was ever made without enthusiasm. Sure. And I think that when you are a fan, like a genuine fan of so many people and you really absorb a lot of what these masters are doing.

And I consider you guys all masters is what I just, you know, you start to want to create your own thing, you know. And I just feel like that eventually I got to a place where I would say it wasn't until my mid 30s where I really understood that like you can't be great at something unless you're willing to be bad at it. And it just freed me in a way that like I don't think I'd ever experienced before. It really genuinely freed me up. And amazing things started happening.

I mean, a movie I've been trying to get made for 10 years. Deadpool finally gets made and like that changes my life. And then we build sort of on that. And then I can start a marketing company and continue to tell stories. And I just, you know, I think it's important. I will say as a compliment to you and you could plug yours if you don't want to hear it.

But from working with you and knowing you, I know that that that enthusiasm slash ambition comes not only from just wanting to accomplish things with your life. And it really comes from an appreciation and a respect for the people that you work with and that you observe in this, in this business. Like you have a clear appreciation for the opportunity and access that you have.

And all of the work of the people around you, like you have a very clear sense that it is teamwork this, this business, it's not so low stuff. And you, you're just, it's really admirable how you seem pretty optimistic. And you're, you're just a kind leader. You get how hard people work around. Well, I love working with people. I love collaborating. Beautiful, beautiful skin. I do. Do you do a skin? I sort of phrase it like that, but it's very.

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You know, as somebody like I consider myself an optimistic person is down he always says nobody wakes up in the morning happier to be himself more than you. And it's true.

But you do seem like you're an optimistic guy and that you do have a great sort of positive look on life in any encounter I've ever had with you. It's never different. If I see you doing your in a movie or you're promoting something you're talking or you're talking on the street, you're the same guy and you do exude that sort of positive energy.

But are there things that get you like you must have things that sort of see been like what passes you off what passes you on when does it get dark right. You do what pisses me off. Yeah, what is it? No, no, I mean, I have I have a patchwork quilt of pitch black night within me that is, you know, I mean, of course we all have that. It's like it keeps me warm at night. Yeah, you know that big hole with teeth and star wars. That is my soul. No one's heard from Blake for over 48 hours guys.

No, no, I hate her. Chunky brazed medium. But it's to that point, right. I have like a question about this kind of motivation positivity thing and it's about the green lantern because now that I speaking to you, we, you know, it's so funny. I was in Atlanta shooting the three stuages movie I go walk over to go see my friend Craig Vierco Craig Vierco's hilarious. I love it. Yeah, very funny. So I walk over to this mall on a day off to go see the green lantern.

And when I walk into the mall to go see the green lantern, there's Jason Bateman and Ryan Reynolds shooting the change up. Yeah, and I walk in the middle of the right. Isn't that crazy?

I was the Fips, the Fips, Fips Plaza or Lennox. Yeah, and we were we were reshooting I think I think you're right. And I walked right in the middle of the scene. I was like, Hey, what's up guys? And you're like, God, this is it. Yeah, I do too. I was like, Oh my God, I'm going upstairs to watch your movie right now. The green lantern. You're like, good. I think I warned you. I said, don't do it. So it's your saver tickets don't do it. I will hand you $12 plus popcorn.

You made kind of this like you're doing now a public admission that it didn't kind of maybe work out the way you had hoped, right? There's even that hilarious. At the end of Deadpool, we have that script. It was so funny. So forget about like Hollywood for a second and share with us like how someone might be in a similar position somewhere in life professionally.

That was a part of something that didn't meet expectations or or or how they wanted. And so what was the drive or the path to say, okay, this didn't work, but we're going to go bigger and make the best thing more successfully. Was it something inside of you that said, I know I can make Deadpool this role successful. I'm going to try it again because a lot of people would have given up after something like that. Well, you know, that's.

Sorry, Ryan, just not to get you up and Sean saying that Green Lanter was so bad you should have quit. Go ahead. Go ahead. Thank you for reading between the live. My entire inner monologue is a gigantic comedic nod right now. That's so cool. You know, I think like I'm failing at starring in a gigantic comic book movie in the grand scheme of things is an extraordinarily uptown problem.

So I think kind of friend, you know, reframing it a little bit like that. But then also that's your life. Well, it's okay. It's your life. It is, you know, everything's a little bit bigger when it's your life. And you know, at the time it really hurt because I realized that it was, I let a lot of people down. It sort of felt like, you know, when it's you in the public discourse about that, everything feels much bigger than it actually is.

You know, so I felt a little bit like I'd let people down. You know, people really loved that character. And I, I didn't love that feeling, you know, but I think what changed everything was was finding a way to have gentle authorship in the work that I do as opposed to that unilateral power, like walking into a room and saying, I'm the boss.

This is how it's going to be my way the highway. It's a really finding a way to truly collaborate with people and the best leaders I know this applies to all forms of business and the arts. But the best leaders I know are the ones that are very, very comfortable saying, I don't know. So how can we get to a place where we know can someone in this room show me or teach me.

And those are great leaders. So I think harnessing some of those kinds of things, you know, basically grinding up 45 self-help books and snorting it like the biggest line of Coke you've ever seen. Also kind of help the shapes of these points of view.

But that was the thing that I think kind of changed my life. And then it allowed me to sort of take that energy around that particular movie and use it a little bit like judo uses energy against it and kind of ramp. I mean, one of the great prides of my life was was writing the tag on Deadpool 2 where we're deadpool kills Ryan Reynolds while he's reading the script for Green Lantern.

So funny. It was like a lot of clever that kind of stuff is so fun to me, you know, to be able to do that. And also I think well part of it what you're talking about is you you don't and you never it seemingly never have taken yourself too seriously. And I think that that's really important. It's a and people see it as armor. It's not really it's it's a it's actually kind of a great way to go through life.

You don't take yourself to seriously than this. The slings and arrows don't hurt as much. No, not at all. And so you yeah, and you have a healthy and I think there's a very. You also have a very kind of Canadian outlook on life in certain ways. Certainly I identify with that, which is like. Hey man, it's like you said like it's an uptown problem. It's all kind of a gas. I mean, the fact that we fucking doing it is hilarious.

You're making a living at it. I mean, my father, if he were alive today, you know, he'd probably find some new way to die. But if he were alive today, he would, you know, dark. Um, he would, you know, he'd be like holy shit. You live in like the life of Riley here like, come on. Yeah, you know, Sean, what would your dad say? My dad would say, what's your name? Yeah, that's what my dad would say over the sound of the departing car engines. Oh, no.

Sean's dad left when he was five. Yeah, Sean's dad left when he was five. And so it's a big. It's a recurring joke on the show. Yeah, my dad cancelled Christmas one year. I'm not kidding. He said Christmas is canceled. And it's just like to this day. It's still. It makes my brother and I fall over laughing. Um, what year did Blake and her little angel wings float down into your life?

What during what projects and how did that? Hey, man, don't say it so fucking creepily in that way. She's just, she's such an angel. Don't describe his wife as an angel. Straight from heaven. Straight from heaven. Just say when did you meet Blake like a normal fucking person? I want to know how what the little, what the wings flapping did for his life and his career. Um, and then children did it change anything or did it just complicate stuff and affect your overhead?

No, no, no, no. This is the only fucking guy on earth who would look at a family's overhead. I know. It's so true. Yes. Where's the line item for daughter? No, I met Blake on the on the darkest crease in the anus of the universe called Green Lantern. And we were friends and buddies. And then about a year and a half later, we actually went on a double date, but we were dating separate people.

Wow, really, she was doubling with someone else. Oh, yeah, she went on a date with someone else. I was on a date with someone and we hung out and kind of, you know, we were, we always kind of kept in touch, but sort of casually. And then next thing, you know, she was going to Boston. I was going to Boston. So I was like, well, let's, I'll ride with you. We got on the train and rode together and. And then it happened. I was just begging her to sleep with me.

Who made the first move? Was it you? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And how did that? Let's, let's get into that. What, what does the first move look like? I mean, is it like, and I've done this move actually in a movie theater where you put girls sitting next to you, you stretch out both, both arms, one over the back of her chair and one over the back of the of the empty chair next to you.

It looks like you just relax. And then about five minutes later, you take the other arm down, you scratch your leg and you leave the one behind her up. Now I got my arm around her. So that was one of my first moves. This is like ninth grade stuff. You're like the fucking font. Yeah, man. So it was yours as good as that. Or was it? My mind was much more elaborate. I mean, I would, I would use a little bit of tear stick. So I get the tears kind of.

I'm not bringing about how important your virginity is to you. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Of course. Yeah. Like as soon as I was in love, I was like, there's this and not together. All right. It's not happened. So you guys are friends. So how, how long after you started dating your friends, then you start dating. How long were you guys like, this is it? This is the real deal.

Pretty quick. Honestly, it was kind of one of those silly sort of like out of a very, we were like a week later. I was like, we should buy house together. No, we did because it was getting expensive to drive back and forth. So it was really about the bottom line, the overhead. It was just more efficient to own a house together.

Yeah, we just again, the overhead right. Same thing. How long you guys been together. And then, you know, how long have you guys been together? We've been together almost 10 years. Nice. Yeah. That's like 45 years in Hollywood. Yeah, sure is two kids. Yes. Three three daughters.

Three daughters. Thanks, Bateman. Listen, you know, you couldn't throw a little look Google search in there while we were talking. No, we're to alienate Ryan. Right. I want to ask you to something, but because I follow you on Instagram. And you posted something that was pretty awesome that I can relate to, which anxiety. It's about anxiety. Yes.

And, and you're open about the anxiety you have. And I'm pretty much open about the one I haven't. This is your quote, which I love anxiety. What's you do? It says to all those like me who overschedule, overthink, overwork, over worry and over everything. Please know you're not alone. I love that.

Why? And see, that's what I was trying to get to before was you do all of those things because and is that you attribute all of those things that attribute, but you associate all of those things with having anxiety. And if you associate anxiety with success. Isn't it scary to get rid of it? Well, that's the dangerous tightrope walk. I think a lot of people are on, right? It's, you know, I see anxiety as sort of a, you know, an engine in a way sometimes for creativity.

But it also has, it's like, you know, it's, it's got its own sort of cloud and shroud of darkness. So I, I'm grateful for my anxiety, which has allowed me to kind of transmute it a little bit and make it useful, which I think is always great. But then, you know, there's a lot of insomnia. So she has a lot of sleepless nights where you're laying awake, over analyzing everything. And it's very hard to turn one's brain off. Right.

So that's where you start to rely on other, you know, meditation and all kinds of other things, you know, just, just to kind of get yourself back to a centered place. But yeah, anxiety is something that like it's been with me my whole life. It's, you know, started as a kid, you know, being in a house that wasn't, you know, my household that I grew up and wasn't, you know, overly awful.

I wouldn't say in the grand scheme of things, certainly compared to some people. But my dad was never an easy person to be around. He was like a skin covered landmine, like you just never knew when you're going to step on the wrong spot and he was just going to explode. So it creates a situation where as a kid, you start to really try to predict the future.

And I think predicting the future is a big brick in the wall of anxiety, which is we cannot predict the future. So you're constantly living in this thing that may or may not happen. This place space that may happen. So, you know, so relate. But then in this business, you know, we all kind of tend to do that where we project into the future. What's it like to be this person? What's it like to comedies a little bit like that?

There's it's a music and it's you're thinking, and how do I, you know, come 90 degrees to expectation in this moment? And that's, you know, it's all kind of born of that same thing, those wheels that just sort of don't shut off. You know, I think that then anxiety when you can't turn it off, when you can't turn your brain off, that is one form. And I know that Sean struggles with he's anxiety because he can't turn his brain on. And that's often.

Yeah. And that gets my court. My court won't reach far enough to the outlet. Right. I walk. I walk a certain life. If I walk anywhere further than 10 feet, the plug comes out of the wall. And then this little this thing ever go on. Will there ever be a thought? Listen, what what's going on? You and you and Hugh Jackman are obviously in this huge beef. And you are seeing you guys have had some words. Wait, fill me in. What? I guess he is going to be tapped dancing and hell. Yeah. Yeah.

I've seen a few posts. And it gets pretty, it gets pretty real. Yeah. What's going on? What happened? Who pissed somebody off? You know, Hugh Jackman is, I really shouldn't say this, but he is really is a family podcast, by the way. Okay. I know. He makes like kindness look like murder. I mean, he really is just the nicest guy you'd ever meet. And however, not sometimes. No, there's no but unfortunately he's he really is the real deal.

Your question and the sincerity of his kindness. No, no, it's just it's infuriating because I want to because it's so real. I got it. No, I want to possess the sense of well-being that Hugh Jackman. Yeah. And it turns into anger for you. I want to understand that to some degree. So we sometimes hate and lash out at the things that we cannot understand. Sure. So I tend to hate and lash out at Hugh. He does reciprocates, of course, because he's nothing if not a sportsman. Yeah.

And that's that's kind of it. But in reality, though, he is, he is like my kind of life Sherpa. He's one of the best guys I know. I'm doing a film right now where I'm it's a musical where I have to sing and dance, which is for me is like my actual version of hell. What is it? And a channel. Yeah, why would you do that? Are you supposed to be a bad singer and dancer? No, I'm supposed to be pretty, I'm doing it with our friend of the court Will Ferrell.

We're in song and dance camp right now for the next month and a half. God, he's the best. The best. So great. Isn't he the best? I'm like that Chris Farley sketch with them. I was like, remember when you remember when you were Neil Diamond in songwriter. I know. You guys are doing a movie together. I'm going to be first in line for that. What is it called? When's it coming out? It's it's called spirited and it's a musical for Apple. And it's just been a real journey.

When Jason Sizzies first in line, he means first in line calling his publicist to get tickets for him and the kids to go to the studio. I'm going to be the first to get tickets for me or link while link stream directly into your face. When does it get strummed? Christmas. Christmas. This Christmas. No, next, next Christmas. Christmas. 2022. Is there a Christmas theme to it? Yeah. It's a Christmas musical. Wow. You know, like who wrote the music? Oh, here we go.

Passing in Paul. Justin Paul and Dan G. Oh, they're fantastic. Amazing. That's great. Yeah, they wrote the songs for real singers. That's the problem. Okay. But you say how do you how do you think it's going? You're your camp. Are you do you want to fire yourself yet or not? Oh, I would definitely but I would fire myself from almost anything, particularly fatherhood. Not true.

So Ryan, what would what would our listener be surprised to learn that you do when you are not being a philanthropic or a key member of the entertainment industry? What do you do to unlike Maclhanie me and will you we play a lot of golf? Do you do any of the golfing or what do you what do you do to to be an idiot? I envy golf because it sounds so meditative right? It is. You know, I will tip it like like when I'm in New York or at home, you know, I'll go like I'll do like crazy walks.

Like I'll go for four hours. Yeah. If I can. Have you ever walked all the way around the island of Manhattan? No, never that long. I'll go like from downtown to like the tip of Central Park, which is yeah, takes like three. Where are you in New York now? Yeah. Oh, I don't know you live there. They're East Coasters. I love that you guys are East Coasters. I am in Paul Bunyan's asshole right now. I know you are. This is very I love it. But wait, have I seen this house? No, you moved.

No, in the house I saw, right? I don't think you've been here now. No, they had to change numbers and addresses. Sorry Jason. Well, what? You don't even know how many kids he has. Why do you think he'd have you at the house? Oh, and who's this little one? Yeah. This is the, you know, the neighbor's turn. Are you here on a plane day? Was the third for like just like emergency harvest to the audience or did you want the third? Jason turns to black and goes, um, angel, angel wings.

Who is this little one? And she's like, don't call me fucking angel wings. Did this third one give you a more favorable tax bracket? Is that why you? Is that Amanda's name? Do you go, do you guys, do you guys have like a, like a, is she, is she boo? We, um, I don't, I don't think I've called her the same thing twice in 20 years. I know. And my kid's the same thing. It drives them out. Whatever it is, it works though. I guess. You know, it's so funny.

I, for, with Scotty, my husband, Scotty, I think it's so awkward on sitcoms when characters call the other character by name over and over. Oh, again. So I, because nobody does that in life. So I do it with Scotty. I always say, Scotty, um, do you want to grab something to eat tonight? Scotty, Scotty, Scotty, I don't know because it's so unnatural. Blake always busts my balls about this because I can never just say, um, I, I did a movie this last year with Dwayne Johnson.

And I, but I always say Dwayne the rock Johnson. Sure. Like, I go through the full, I mean, literally like the sun rises and sets before I can make it to the end of his full name. You know, like, uh, Dwayne the rock Johnson. I'm doing the scene today with Dwayne the rock. She's like, I understand you could go with DJ D, the rock, the big guy. Yeah. But people in Boston do that.

You know, no, say go matter of fact, Will, uh, we were over there at, uh, we're out in deadm, Will and, uh, Will, we see the other guy that will. And you're like, stop using my name so much. You know what other, let's go through things that we hate that people say. Like, little pet peeze, are we ready? Because I got another one loaded up. Okay. I can't imagine you're watching fucking hockey these days.

Okay. And I'm so, and not just hockey, but all sports and answers, stop saying without a doubt or without question. Constantly constantly going, well, without question there, you know, the leaves are, uh, they're, you're not, you know, fighting through the neutral zone. And without question, without question. Yeah. I don't know. I think it's very common people will start to say something and they'll just throw in the, the conformational right in the middle of the thing.

Um, so, you know, when you're walking down the street, right, you're, uh, you're thinking about, uh, you know, how nice it is, right? And, and the right is getting very overused nowadays. Right. The one that, the one that just cripples me though is, is, is guy. Hey, guy. Hey, guy. Can I have a, but we did that for years. Jason, I did it and we used to, it's in a few episodes of arrested development where we'll turn to each other and we go, yeah, hey guy.

I've heard you just say, hey, that Jason in a, in a, in a comedy content because it's, I love it because it's like, you may as well just say like, hey, penis hooked up to a life support system. What, uh, you know, it's just so generic. Did you ever see what Jason, what's that movie you did in the desert with Peter Berg and, uh, everybody. Oh, uh, Kingdom. Kingdom.

I'm Jason has a, as a role in Kingdom and one of my favorite line readings of all time. They're speeding through the desert and I remember seeing this in the theater with Krasinski and you're speeding through the desert and the guy's going way too fast and Jason goes, hey driver. Are you late for something? My character is anxiety. He doesn't like the speed. It's his throwaways though that like, I, the, the, what's the, what's the one that kills? There's one that just fucking kills me.

It'll come to me. I did change guy to gang recently again. Just like saying, even if it's a single person, yeah, like we're going to. Guns hot is the one I still use from the change up when you, when Leslie man rolls over and passes a little gas in the bed and Jason, who's now me, why psych is he, but he goes, hey, you're going to, you're going to comment me guns hot. We all said Sean Levy says it. We all say it all the, I mean, literally all the time.

I got to see that movie again. I really liked that. I feel like I've not seen it since we saw it in like in La Kinyata or something. We saw you were in. Well, yeah, I only saw it the once you work on something for months and then you just see it one time. Sean, what do you hate that people say? What's yours? Sean circle back. I hate circle back. Circle back. Oh, circle back. Circle back. Hey, let us discuss and we're going to circle back or touch base or per my previous email.

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That's LinkedIn.com slash smartless. Terms and conditions apply. Did you purposely not respond to Bayman because you're just like, fuck it, he doesn't. Yeah, let's get back to this. Now, here's what I'm going to say. Here's a generous interpretation of the series of events. I think it is, let's believe it on Apple. Apple has a problem with texting. You cannot mark a text as unread because if you read a text and they go, oh boy, I really want to give a good response to this person.

It deserves my attention, a longer, but I don't have the time to do that right now. I'll do it later. There's no reminder that that text came in later and you could go months without responding to it and then seem, well, hurtful. I guess, you know, to the person who sent it to you. It would be a kind thing of Apple to do is to allow us to do that. Just to do that. I'm going to be completely honest with you right now. I got your text. Oh, boy. I wanted to be on the show.

Here's the other thing though. This goes back to my little post yesterday. This goes back to the thing that we were talking about. Is I get really like, I turtle a little bit when it's stuff like that. When I'm getting around people that I greatly respect and admire and this isn't me just pumping a bunch of hyperbole into your balloon now. I'm telling you I actually feel so I get a little like, oh, God, what is that? Like, I need to understand, you need to hear that podcast.

And then I started to then I fell in love with the podcast and. I made it worse. Just last time when you had someone on that was like me and I was like, oh, then I can do this. Now I wasn't who was it. Who was it? Who was it? Who was not Tina Fey. I'll tell you that. She drove it. She drove it. She's good. She doesn't miss a lot of things. Nobody was met. Nobody was met. It was just one of the things where I just wasn't the right time.

I also found that the pandemic and I realized that I'm not one of the millions and millions of people who are living at home paycheck to paycheck and living in an abject state of panic during a pandemic. I am one of the people who is not. I'm lucky. I'm fortunate. I'm able to not. But I was having a, that was a tough. Yeah. I mean, you know, when you're homeschooling kids, I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this. Yeah, how did they do? I was seeking out external help left friends.

I was reading books. I was like trying to figure out some way to steer the shizzle. It was Blake was so much better at it than I was because I'm also a child. But personally, when you have a creative mind and you go through a pandemic, it's hard and you're stuck at home. I think maybe that's a little bit of what you're saying is like, yeah. Did you start doing anything that you were surprised at? Did you start painting? Did you start whittling? Did you start working with clay? No, I wish.

I did a lot of writing. I started to like really make meditation or practice. I know that it's like a little lessoteric and everything. But it really did help. How many times did you accidentally fall asleep? Because that's what happens with me. I've given up on it now. Jason, if I had a baseline sense of well-being that you did, I would love it. I used to, I remember in the change up, we worked down to be like, did you get your 14 hours? You got it on. And Granddad does know how to stay down.

Pretty good. It greedy little pig. You get it all? Yeah, no. I would love to, um, I would fucking love to just get some uninterrupted sleep. That sounds great. No meditating is not. I mean, my version of meditating is like sitting at a perfect right angle and in a silent screen. Yeah. That's a wide, jaw unhinged. The mouth is so wide open. No sound coming out. Yeah. Ryan, where do you see your, so now you got these three kids. You got all this stuff. You're meditating.

You're becoming a complete person. You're obviously drinking gin all day because you own a booze company. Sure. You're married to an angel. So you're constantly half in the bag. You've got your little pretty little angel. Jesus Christ. No, I will. He dragged you right into this smut puddle, didn't he? I know. But where do you, where do you see yourself? I mean, you, it seems like everything you're doing now just is opening up. You're just hitting your stride now.

Is there part of you that goes like, I've done a lot of accomplished a lot and I just kind of want to slow it down and just chill or do you feel like no, just let's just keep rolling constantly. I mean, I assume that you guys feel the same way you're always thinking like, OK, next year I'll, I'll slow it down, you know, but the only reason I think I'm able to continue doing this at this, this way I think is that I'm present with my kids and my wife.

And my marriage is incredibly important to me and that friendship is important to me. So I, you know, I'm able to kind of get through, you know, but then Blake and I don't do movies at the same time. So she's ready to go back and do some soft. I'll step down and then you know, we'll, we go back and forth. You guys alternate. Yeah, she'll do a film and I'll just be, you know, with her on location, hanging with the kids. So you take, you take the kids with you on location always? Always.

Yeah, we never have. We're six, four and one. So they're, they're in school. So we can't really leave. Yeah, it starts to change when your kids, my older kids are 10 and 12 and you, yeah, you start to say like you have to make decisions based on it and people know everywhere who have kids that you make decisions based on what works for your family. My dad had that, my dad had the same philosophy around. Yeah, take me with them wherever he go. Oh, wait, no, I'm kidding.

Yeah, right. You guys have, Jason, you have two kids. Will you have three? Three. So you have three boys. So you have one dog. One dog. Okay. So yeah. Did you guys ever, I mean, I don't, I never imagined to have three. Yeah, three. Well, three. That's not like that's three boys. But I have 10, 12, 10 and one. My, my young is just turned one and yeah, it's, you know, it changes everything because everything is dictated.

Everything starts there. That's your baseline. So it's, it's what works for the kids. It's everything. It's where you live, what you do, what jobs you take, what, uh, when you take holidays, it's all geared around. But how, how different is three from to the jump from two to three? I just like, I was researching like a blowtorch vasectomy after the third. I was sure. Yeah. There must be a way to stop. Oh, I know a way to stop this.

Yeah. No, I've, I thought about it without getting, yeah, with, yes, I've also had that same thought. Um, but then I also think like, why, who am I to deprive the world, uh, careful of more of what just me. Yeah. Well, just hear me out. You guys look, this, this shit is no fucking fluke. Yeah. Yeah. Look. So why would I, why would I, what's, but, but it is hard.

I do think that though sometimes when, when somebody I love at it, Meyer doesn't ever have kids. I think, oh, those, those amazing jeans aren't. Yeah. Well, thank you. Let me tell you something though. Thank you. The welcome. I think that the reason why one of the reasons why I don't have kids is because of some of these conversations that I've always been around, which is like,

yeah, so tired. Oh, kids, oh, yeah, figure it out. And so growing up, I was like, well, maybe there's something to that. Maybe it is true. The first year is garbage. Okay. Everybody. First year is, is tough. But I gotta say though, there's never a moment where you're absolutely genuinely regretting it. Never. I mean, it's the best. No, of course, you can't imagine not. I can't remember not having kids.

I do, I will say, I will say as a man who's 51 and had a child at 50, I was like, hey guy, what the fuck were you doing? Hey guy, are you stupid? Yeah. And you were out, you were out of the game. Yeah. And you threw yourself back in there and guess what? Your chassis is not holding up.

Chassis. So close. I hate when you say that word. You know, I said this Ryan before on the on the pockets, but I read this quote a long time ago that I said from this woman who said I'd rather regret not having kids than have them and regret it later. And that was kind of my philosophy. No, well, you got to consider the source with a fuck was she? You know what I mean? It's my mom.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I know Sean, we've talked about it before a few times and you've thrown that quote in my face to make me feel bad. I've always wanted to want them. When, when is the last time you and Scotty talked about it though? I mean, probably like only listening here. Two years ago, couple of years ago, like again, just just take it up the flag pole again today over lunch or something.

Awesome. I say I know. Come on. I want to make sure that I want to be there for them. Like my dad wasn't right. So that no, I know I know I know I would be like a great dad. I just make sure that I'm ready as somebody who's been friends with you for 20 years. I know that you would be so good at it. You and Scotty could be great. Oh my god. Sean, if you'll take one of yours. Yes. I'll take the kid. Sean. Listen. If it doesn't, if you don't like it, I'll take the kid.

Because I did always want to break. Oh, this is a great deal. But I like the way like Ricky Ricky's always, Jervais is always saying that you know, there is that sort of pressure from people to like why, why is the ultimate thing not to have kids in his things like maybe that's just not for us. We don't want. We don't want to share this and it's totally, totally, valid 100%. But you do get a great tax write off if you have a kid.

Oh, it's just. Ryan, we have, we have really, we really monopolized your time and you've got. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm not ready yet. Once I'm not ready yet. Okay. I want to ask you each one thing because you guys are all people that I lesser in greater extents think less of now. Yeah.

I love you guys so much. I love your work. Like what is your most fulfilling job that you've ever had? What is the one that you look back on? It doesn't have to be in showbiz. You go first. Well, the most fulfilling job I've ever had is probably will and grace of course. I mean, it happens to be the biggest job I've ever had to but bird in flight on that.

I was thinking, but speaking of anxiety, a lot of people thought, you know, I came in like a ferret on cocaine all the time as that character. And I think it's because it's because of my anxiety because a lot of people like, oh, you're so funny. You have so much energy because they have so much anxiety and that into the characters.

And the day you like burst through that door on the second literally see you bursting through that door on that set. It's just it was I just said it. I mean, it's like seeing a bird in flight. Well, thank you. That guy is meant to do this. Yes. Well, that I was my she answered your question. Thank you for asking. It's very kind. Yes, probably that job. It happens to be the biggest one. But also just because of the uncillary effect that's had on the world, which was not nobody could see that coming. It was just an incredible byproduct of what we were doing. So that's my answer.

Amazing. Jason. I would say, I don't know. I'm a I'm really deeply, deeply, deeply in love with directing right now. And so the I would say the first film that I directed, bad words, was probably really exciting for me that shot by Ken sang. Pretty looking, funniest charming fucking movies. We'll our net. I would say arrested development for me because I've said this before. It's very rare where you guys know when you have when you're working on something that doesn't feel like work.

You're walking up driving up every day to the lot on Fox and bring my pass on the thing and they open up the gate and thinking, I'm so glad I'm here today. This is exactly where I want to be. I can't wait to get in. I never had anxiety about doing scenes. I never had anxiety about any of it. I just couldn't wait for them to start rolling and start fucking around. I was like, I'm getting paid to I've also said this on the show before.

I remember saying when I bought a nice place and saying to my dad, can you believe that fucking around because he obviously thought I just fucked around my whole life. Yeah. It was like turns out fucking around paid off. Yeah. But it was it was truly such an amazing experience and it was very, you know, it was so fulfilling and there were so many great relationships and it was seamless and.

You know, Jason and I that's where we for that's where I met my little angel. Yeah, I first fluttered into my life. Jason and it's been a lifelong. Yeah, I love you will will I love you. I love you. Right. You're your greatest was it two girls in a guy to guys. Two girls.

Oh my god, I loved I did love doing a sick. I love two guys a girl and a pizza. But I remember I kind of like worked with this kind of Danny Jacobson who is the producer and writer and and I remember he came out and yelled at me one day because I was kind of holding back. I don't know if will if you can you know relate to this, but it was you know, I felt I was very Canadian on stage. I was very like, oh, I got to make sure I'm not too much.

I'll give you know, these other guy want to make sure everyone has their moment, you know, and he came out and he's just like, hey, man, fucking take the stage. You take the stage. Take it. It's yours. It doesn't make diminish anybody else's performance. Just fucking go out there and give it your all and it really stuck with me. Take the stage. Take the stage.

I still think about that, but I would say that my most. Oh, that's great. For filling, John was probably dead. Deadpool won a double two just because like. It almost killed me. I mean, it was like a you know, I was chewing and blowing bubbles with every aspect of it. And remember you talking about that years earlier and wanting to really be respectful and deliberate about how and when you you do that.

You know, you know, you know, learn some, you know, just like being involved in the guts of a big movie line wasn't it? We shot it on nothing, but it was still. I from the outside it seems like that was it. That was a part in a movie and a thing that really was probably shifted everything for you. I can see how it was huge. Obviously,

and that genre too, but it wasn't just a huge hit. You were really good in it. It was really funny and used everything that you're good at. And look, you mentioned Canadian. You're from Vancouver. Do you still do you consider yourself Canadian? I hope you're from Vancouver. I really do. So counts. British Columbia counts. Despite this tricky to country name. Yes, it's. It is Canadian. Are you close to?

I'm I'm I'm just joking, but do you are you do you still feel connected to your Canadian roots? I really do because I feel like Canada is like one of my parents in a way taught me to laugh at myself. It taught me to really kind of you never take my thought means they're one of the lines of Van Wounder don't take life too seriously. You'll never get out alive. Yeah. But what is that? What is it? Will you tell the story about the lobsters? It's it's a tricky spot. How does that go again?

I told that when Tina was honest that the Canadian lobster fisherman and the American lobster fisherman walking down the road and one that American says, you got to notice you don't have a lid on your lobster pot there by aren't you worried about your lobster is getting out and the Canadian says, no, these are Canadian lobsters. One of them tries to get out the other ones will pull them back down.

No. And I will say like that's Canada. I caught the new fee accent there. They're pretty good. Right. Yeah. Thanks, everybody. Thank you. I have to apologize to people of Prince Edward Island, because they made a joke on Colbert. And I just want them to know they're loved. And we really love you on the PEI all four listeners to the smartless podcast. They're like, what? We didn't know and shut up and we don't follow what you say, dude.

But you know, Ryan, you and I ought to do a tour of Canada, just like a just like a coming home tour and what just like a parade. So, let's get in the car. Yeah. Okay. Let's get in Sean's Toyota Corolla and see how far we can get before my Nissan Center takes over. Let's do it. Let's do a tour of Canada and just a victory lap in Sean's car. You guys are going up there. You guys are taking the podcast.

We're doing the tour up there. Yeah. I know more about this fucking show than you three. I know you do. Rob Bennett and I have been working the shit behind the scenes like no one's business. Ryan Reynolds, you are a man, a myth. You're a prince. And I can't thank you enough for doing this. Love you. Love you. Like crazy. Love you guys too. Yeah. I mean, it's been awesome. Have you. Thank you, Ryan. You're the best. Thanks guys. And I never say that. No, you don't. You don't.

Thanks, right? Alright, pal. Thanks guys. Take an easy. Have a great rest of the day. Bye. Bye, guys. God, I really like that. Ryan. Well, you all your Canadians are so nice. Why is that? When does it get dark? Is there going to be like a series of like September through April? Oh, it gets real dark. So inside with hockey season or the opposite? Well, I think it wasn't for hockey. Forget it. It does get dark up there in the north.

But you know what? The flip side is gets really light. It does seem though like every because I don't know Canada like you do obviously. But it does seem like everybody that is in the business of show is always so grateful and upbeat and kind. But there's no entitlement, which is. Yeah. Well, no. I mean, we're so excited. I was talking to, you know, Sean and I we were we were talking to Andrea Martin the other day.

You know, who's who lived in Canada for a long time and she's actually American. The brilliant Andrea Martin. And I was saying that like, you know, growing up in Canada, I moved down here because I knew that there was so much more opportunity down here. And that's the same reason I'm sure that Ryan did like that you can there's only so much that you can do it sort of.

And Canada's such an amazing place. I knew so many so many funny talented incredible people who are from Canada who moved here because it's just there's just more it's just bigger and you know, people. And you get down here and you're like, I don't know. I guess you just kind of appreciate that like that you get to do this. I'm a kid from Toronto as much as I sort of joke.

I grew up in Toronto. I have no showbiz connections. But let me ask you something. Well, because when you came down when you guys come down to this country, because on the outside for me, it always seems like well, because we live here. All just the kind of like a turbulent, you know, atmosphere that is now in the country that the divides, you know, turn on the news and all this stuff is happening.

And it seems like from the outside Canada doesn't have them sure you do. But on the outside, it just seems like Canada just up everybody's upbeat and happy.

No, I think there are a lot of issues. Of course, anywhere you go, there are issues that are sort of germane to whatever place you go to and Canada has its own issues as well. But there is a sense of like, you know, I don't know if it's a kind of a hangover from the sort of the English, like sort of a Commonwealth thing, which is just kind of. You know, keep calm and carry on idea of just like, yeah, it should happens. And you just kind of keep going. And you just don't.

It's one of the things that I love slash sort of push back against, which is like, don't take yourself to seriously. Yeah. Keep it in perspective guy and Ryan embodies that right by embodies all that is Jason frozen or is he asleep? Oh, look, no, this fucking conversation is just putting me to sleep. Are we still on Canada? Holy shit.

I was I asked the question because Ryan seems to embody everything that will is saying Ryan. You know, we're reporting right guys were supposed to be wrapping up the Ryan episode. What do you think I thought it was for you? What do you want to say about Ryan? I'm a night number of minutes in my day to enjoy. He looked like he was fucking frozen like we were at the Madame two so's and here's the Jason Bayboy. It's what shocked looks like. So listen, this guy Ryan Reynolds. He's something else.

Just a stunning man, a great friend, an incredible talent. Is he getting more talented? Does it? I think so. Yeah, I mean, he that he understands, I guess, you know, what his thing is and he's like fine tuning and fine tuning and then putting it in other areas and and you know,

fucking slinging booze and and buying like he didn't even get to his mobile phone company that he owns. I know. Yeah, I want to fucking mobile phone company. Yeah, and you know, when you call somebody on through his cell phone, you start and come. No, no, no, no, you can. I don't even need to tell us go for I could just see it coming right here. Go ahead and start the conversation by saying, hi, but how do you end it?

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