¶ SmartLess Opening Banter
I had a dream last night that it was the best episode we've ever done. I couldn't sleep the rest of the night, got in here, fired up the old machine and I'm now waiting on these guys and I am loose. I got a little bit of a sweat going. The hammies are pliable. And the jaw muscles are ready to really ask some tough. And giggle at my funny little friend Sean. Guys, welcome to Smart. Hi guys. Shut up, Sean. Oh my god.
I've never I haven't lashed laughed so hard as I did today when we were standing on the street. We'd just come out of a Like adults. Sean starts to say something and he like he's doing right now, he he uh undoes a uh top of a bottle of water and he's about to take a sip and or no he's going to do it and Jason slaps it out of his hand.
Mm-hmm. And it lands on the ground. A fun little hair pull. Yeah, just a little fun, fun thing. So I reach down to grab it because it falls at my feet and I hand it to Sean, and as he reaches for it, I just drop it right before he can grab it, like a child. That's twice that's twice denied water. And as it lands on the ground, Sean reaches down to get it and Jason kicks.
And it goes flying, hits a curb and goes under a parked like construction truck. It explodes. Top comes flying off. The water's everywhere. And I haven't laughed that hard. I felt the money. It was high school all over again. It was like Uh it was a little bullying.
¶ Cheesecake and Whipped Cream
Just it, you know. It was just God clean fun. You know Um Jay, did you like my cheesecake last night? Yeah. Cheese. Now I I would have I would have liked it a little firmer, Sean. A little Yeah, it was a little too fluffed. You know, it was a little uh
It wasn't as gooey as the last one, so I feel like we're we're making progress. I like the I the last one was a little bit more than I say this as a person who I can't even boil water. So i the fact that you cook anything is incredible. It's very impressive. But also I didn't know, Will, either that I didn't I've never made whipped cream in my life. I didn't know that you just pour
half and half or whatever in a bowl. And whip it and you just start the special whip. You just start whipping it. I was my mind was blown. I was like, oh, Do you think it's a good idea that you've now learned how easy it is to make whipped cream? I think so. I think so. I think you know I'm doing it night. Yeah, you missed out on a good cheesecake last night. Well but then I found out then Sean told me that the secret ingredient that he d drive an hour and a half for Yeah. Chocolate uh
Cadbury White Chocolate Bar. No, not Cadbury, it was another brand, but yeah. Another brand that we're not going to mention, I guess. But there's a there's a is that is that a thing? Is that normal that there's a white chocolate? Candy bar in most cheesecakes? Well, no, no. I just melted it to make kind of like the creamy part of part it was one of many ingredients. But it's not a good thing.
This week. Bakeless. Bakeless. Yeah. Um yeah. I I and I I was so obsessed with getting the ingredients right. I I drove an hour and a half to get it because they don't sell'em in the United States. And what did he do, Will, when he got there? When he when he drove an hour and a half away to get this to what did he do while he was there? It's like, Huh, well look, here's a here's a a a rare um uh Hamburger joint that we don't have near us.
To portillos. Yeah, and he put a big burger in his face and uh and a shake too, I'll bet. Yeah, I got a shake and a piece of cake and I got fries and a hot dog. Wait, wait a shake for lunch? Piece of cake, fries and a hot dog, and then a cheese and then two beef sandwiches. What's that? Two beef sandwiches, one Scotty. And this is when you were on the mission that you're talking about. White chocolate.
Yeah. Well I had I picked up the white chocolate. Were you buying for all the kids in the school bus? No. I never get it, so we s I bought like a little extra stuff and I put it I put it in the fridge. I'll heat it up later. Good for you. Thank you. Guys, let's get started.
¶ Emma Stone's Hollywood Journey
Oh wow, I thought we had, but this is really exciting, guys, today. You're gonna freak out. Oh, it's your guest. It's my guest today. I'm so excited we got my favorite. Redheaded firecracker here today. She's a self proclaimed computer nerd. And before becoming one of my all time favorite full fledged movie stars. She made people websites for free. In fact, at fourteen years old,
She performed a PowerPoint presentation titled Project Hollywood in order to convince her parents to let her drop out of high school and move to LA from Arizona to pursue her dreams of becoming an actress. Thankfully that dream came true, so we could talk to her today. Her name is Emma Stone. And Emma's a little under the weather. I'm a little under the weather.
Oh I can't believe you showed up for us. Did you get into a big pile of bad Coke last night, Emma? Listen, you know what? You've been there, right? There's meetings for you. Yeah, listen, we're saving a seat for you. I know. Thank you. Are you at home or in a hotel?
¶ The Truth About Emma's Hair
It's a home. She's been live for my day. Thanks for having me. What an opening. Emma's been up for four days, listener. Emma I don't think of you as a ginger, I guess, per se when I think of ginger. But you are blonde right now. No, no, no, I'm not. I'm actually I'm blonde I have blonde hair right now and I'm and I'm b I was born blonde. Well, I was born hairless, but but then I grew blonde hair. Okay. Hairless is my podcast. Sure. Give us the full Bravo.
Yeah, you were red for a while there, yes? For a long time. So much so that people thought it was it was that you were Natch Red. Red Natch. But I but I'm not red nat. But wasn't it true that my mother's red Natch. Yeah. You gotta be careful with that boy now. I have a son who's a Natch ginge. Oh we love a Natch Ginge. Oh my gosh, do we ever love a Natch Ginge? Wait, Emma, didn't that Natchee ginge? Hey man Do you need a second?
Take a nap. I've been up for days. Um so excited you're on the show with us, Emma. Thanks for But wait, didn't you diet originally like w when you moved here and you felt like you weren't getting parts or something? I feel like I read something and then You thought maybe your talent, which you're br you know, seeping talent, that that was what I was telling everyone.
Yes. And that's what I kept saying. And they went, No, no, no. That hair has got to go. But y that but that you thought you had to dye your hair, is that true? D I yeah, I I was'cause I I moved to LA when I was fifteen. And so all of the all of the things that I was auditioning for at that time were kind of, you know, like roles for fifteen year old girls at that time were a lot of girls that were ver I guess what I was up for was a lot of very blonde cheerleadery kind of
Rolls and I didn't fit those very well. And so I thought if I dyed my hair brown, it would really set me up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How'd that go? You know, it went great, Jason. I didn't I didn't get any parts after that either. But a couple years later I I auditioned for um for Super Bad. And um and I was at the the camera test for that and uh Judd Apatow said, Well maybe she could have red hair because the other girl in the movie, who's my best friend now, Martha McIsaac, had brown hair and so
¶ From Web Design to Luddite Life
We dyed my hair red and and the rest was, you know. But was dude is Sean's incredible research accurate? Were you really doing websites for people? Like are you a computer person? I was in that uh kind of, you know, nineties. computer format. I don't know if you guys know, you know, Angel Fire, GeoCities, that kind of world where you did very primitive HTML. This is not coding by any means. I would not if you in fact
I don't have a computer now. They lent me this computer to be able to do this with you guys. Oh, do not do you guys. I'm like a neo Luddite now. But uh back then I was very into the internet and learning about, you know, building drop down menus and things like that. I mean primitive like nineteen ninety eight. What what are you looking for? When you're out there you're looking what are you looking for in a drop down menu? Now see that's the thing.
See that's the thing. When you want somebody to step in this keeps me up at night. If you want somebody if somebody's looking to step into a really elite drop down menu. Yeah. If you're if you're looking for great drop down, if you're in the market. No, okay. It needs to be clear, clear fonts. Okay. We're um we're hitting Helvetica hard. You now are completely um uh you don't have a computer at all?
I don't have a computer at all anymore. Come on. Wow. I really don't. What about an what about an iPhone? I have an iPhone, but it's a very good idea. The incredible new iPhone fifteen. Um I don't Sean uh you wanna get yeah, if you wanna get rid of your old one, yeah, we're done with that. Cycle's over, thank god. We enjoyed our experience, but oh mama, was there a heavy rotation on that?
Sorry about that, America. Um wait, so you do but you do do do you do email off your phone then? I do email on my phone and I t and I uh you know just uh just type it with my thumbs. So no social media, no nothing else. No. No. No. It's refreshing. Thanks so much. I says, friend, I says. I said you we should w imagine Imagine the reset this planet would get if we had no social media for six months. Mm-hmm. Globally. Yeah. Yeah. Incredible. What do you think would happen?
Well, people would learn how to manage boredom, which I think is a lost talent. I know I try to teach my kids like it's okay if you're bored. Like that's actually a a a a another word for relaxation. Like enjoy it. Take a breath. Being bored is okay. Like not having anything to do with a red light or an elevator is a good time to kinda like
Reintroduce yourself to yourself for a minute. You know? Well yeah, do you ever do that thing, Emma, you like you where you look at pe I I've been doing a lot lately, well, I don't know. Where I look around and I go Everybody's on their phone. Every moment if there's a if there's a down moment, and sometimes it's reflexive because people are nervous or, you know, they feel insecure.
Yeah. But when you you wake up in the morning, you don't have like a loop that you have to or that you like to do on a computer with this is good hangout. Well no but uh you're gonna computer loop. Well, you know, you hit the you hit the New York Times and your email and your calendar and you kinda get your shit. I just do all that on my phone. Okay. So I'm probably actually on my phone more than people that have a computer.
But see what I'm picturing here is that you've got no no reason or excuse to get up out of the out of the pillow. Correct. You're still in the feathers. What you reach over, you grab your buttons. You sleep in a pile of feathers for real. What an angel. What a real angel. I'm down. Well what like with a you had a nice desktop, you could get out and into the living room and join the world. Get yourself a desktop.
JB, walk us through it. No, you don't want to follow my morning. All right, so Emma, which one of your rad projects are we gonna talk about today? We're gonna there's so many, but I you okay, so you answer that first.
¶ Birthday and The Rocker Film
Oh, I don't know. Which one would you like to talk about? I want to talk about childhood. I want to talk about all these good stuff. I want to talk about that. It was your birthday last week. Happy birthday. Thank you so much. Yes. I mean, lucky. Are we allowed to guess the? Can we guess the age? Oh, this might be mean, but sure. Go ahead. No, no, no, no. How about I'm gonna go with twenty four? Oh twenty five. Will?
I'm gonna get real. Yeah, be real. Will Will and I worked together when I was uh I think nineteen. Yes, that's true. Really? That was a long time ago. That is true. So wait then then wait, then Sean you go next. Okay. I was gonna say late twenty. That's very cute, Sean, and sweet. True. I really don't know. Are you truly north of thirty? I'm north of thirty. Oh she she is uh uh she is thirty seven.
I d you don't look thirty seven, though. I was just guessing based on what the information That's true. We did. We did uh we did uh work that was a long time ago. What was it? What was the job, do you remember? It was called The Rocker. You didn't The Rocker. Wait, the Rocker I still need to see and what was the other one I said I need to see the other day? Um uh Hot Rod.
All right. Well let's not go through my Emma. Go tell everybody who is in the rock. Nobody's seen it. Who is in the rock? The cast is pretty hilarious. It was Rain Wilson. Yeah. Uh Jason Sadekis. Yep. You. Bradley Cooper. Yeah. Fred Armison. Yep. You uh I need a who directed this? Um a guy named Peter Cataneo who directed the full Monty. Peter Cataneo. Yeah, yeah. Uh
Uh John Glazer. John Glazer. Oh yeah. The great John Glazer. Who did Hot Rod? Who directed Hot Rod? Was that that wasn't Yorma, was it? Yeah, gotcha. But uh the cast was pretty It was pretty wild. Yeah. We were in Toronto. We were in Toronto. And I feel like you weren't there for that long. I was there for a couple months. I was there for a week, maybe. And uh and what kind of part were you playing, Emma? Uh well I was playing the bass.
In a band that was fronted by it was sort of a school of rock adjacent, would you say well kind of story. Oh I played the le uh lead singer of a uh of a hair band. Yeah. True story. Bradley was the guitarist and Fred was the the bassist. Uh but it was uh but it was fun. But yeah, I mean you have not I'm trying to think. You just have not stopped working and doing awesome stuff since the moment I became aware of you. You've just been like consistently just doing
Cool thing after cool thing, great film after great film. It's pretty remarkable. Not a lot of people rare. I've done way worse movies than The Walker since The Rocker. Oh my god. Subjective
¶ Emma's Name Change and Dog Bakery
Well, let's not go too deep through the IMDB or whatever. I wanna know I met you once very briefly. You were so kind years and years ago, blah blah blah, you never remember. I think it was at SNL. But I was like, oh my god, that's I'm a stun. And then so when I did my research for the for today, I didn't know that
Your name was Emily. I wanna know these guy I know why it's called Emma, but I want you to tell these guys why it's c why you changed it to Emma. Yeah. And then I also wanna know about your dog bakery thing that you worked at because I have a friend who lives in Arizona. Who has a company? It's a do it's a dog poop company. She picks up poop dog poop for you just call her and she picks up dog. But it was in Scottsdale.
Oh r that's where I'm from. I know. That's where I've done. That's amazing. We well my name was taken. Do you notice like there's been less dog poop around in when you go home? You know? Now that you mention it's friendship. I mean it used to be absolutely everywhere. Just piles them. But her gig her gig is just she's just a freelance. She just goes around town and she's looking for
Just spare poop that's unclaimed and unbacked. You call her up if you don't want to pick up your dog poop and she it's called poop patrol. Sherry's poop poop. The city. People who don't want poop in their lawn, man. Yeah. Wait, I'm I'm confused. Wait. So you you call her just to so you just let your dogs kind of run free on your own lawn like all week?
And then poop patrol comes a garden. That's right. The gardener comes over, picks up the poop. Yeah. Like instead of blowing the leaves and stuff, there's just a poop. Huh. Wow. Wow, I don't know, thirty jokes in there? I didn't know where to Well that's kinda why I brought it up. It's such a funny job. You take a tight five and gather them and then come back to us. But wait, a dog bakery. You worked at a dog bakery when you were a teenager?
Yeah, okay. I worked a dog bakery when I when I moved to LA when I was fifteen uh called Three Dog Bakery at the farmer's market. At the Grove? At the Grove. I used to go there. You worked there? Yes. Oh well I mean not for long. For like maybe six months. Wow. So wait, Shawnee, this was pre Ricky? Yeah, this was years ago. Years and years ago. This was fifteen twenty years ago. Yeah, that's when I had my t two other dogs and used to go there to shop for.
Do you think that we ever ran into each other then? Probably. Maybe. Probably. I think the I think word would have gotten out that Will and Grace's Sean Hayes was there. I think you're right. I think I would have told everybody. Guaranteed. You probably so we m I must not have been working those hours. We'll be right back. All right, back to the show.
¶ Spice Girls, Injuries, Bone Density
Tell these guys why you changed your name from Emily to Emma. Well it was m originally my my name was taken at Screen actors guild. Right. Um, when I w got my card when I was sixteen. She was an Emily Stone. Wow. And so I originally changed it to Riley because when you tell a sixteen year old that they can just change their name. Right. You pick a cool name. And so I was like, I'll be Riley. You could have changed it to Emma Middlename Lee. Emma Lee Stone. Right. That you that
I don't know if I could pull off being a three namer. Fuck, is there any way you could call her twenty years ago? Could you call me twenty years ago really quick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Real quick. Hold on. Just one second. We'll pause. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we'll just that is a real thing though, right? Th that is a real thing though, all people who change their names because of
Sack,'cause there's already somebody Yeah. Michael J. Fox, I think, was cause there was already a Michael Fox, right? One of the great ones is isn't uh I feel like Michael Keaton is Michael Douglas. Oh wow. Oh really? And he changed his last name to Keaton because Michael Douglas was Michael Douglas. I just learned I just learned Albert Brooks's real name is Al Albert Einstein. That's it. I did not know Swear to God. That's unbelievable.
That was Bob Einstein and that's Albert's brother who was. But anyway, Emily to Emma. Emily to Emma because well the because you're trying to get to the Spice Girls round. True, that one's free now. Not being used anymore. Wait, so you so you went to Emma? I went to Emma because w uh growing up I was uh an enormo I mean still to this day I am, but an enormous An enormous sorry, I'm um I'm slurring from all of the I've been up for four days. You need to take a nap. Yeah, I gotta take a nap. Um
Uh I was a huge Spice Girls fan. And there was Emma who was Baby Spice. No way. Crazy about her. Yeah. Really? When I was in, you know, like second or third grade, I asked the teacher to call me Emma, but they didn't it didn't ever stick. But then I had the chance to do it permanently and here I am. I love that. Have you have you met the the Spice Girls since? I have.
Does she know that? I've met the Swiss girls now. I I think I think she does'cause she gave me a really special t shirt that she had signed. It was like from one Emma to another kind of thing. It was pretty cool. Did you keep it together or would you just do that? I did not keep it together at all. At all. But I will say
The night before I met them, we were going to their concert in England when they when they, you know, w had done they did like a reunion tour a couple of years ago in 2019. And the night before I went to a um a party at somebody's house and the magician David Blaine was there. Okay. And he did a uh
trick. An illusion if you And he and it was like he and he pulled up his phone and the card was reflected in a picture on someone's phone you know, in the in the glasses of someone on a boat and it was this crazy thing and I got so excited. Now, this is a tale as old as time because I'm about to tell you a story from yesterday as well. I got so excited.
that I ran. I was like, I can't stand it because I'm such a big fan of magic and I couldn't stand it. And I ran. And I was wearing these uh these heeled boots and I slipped on the wood floor. This is the night before the Spice Girls come. Slipped, my arm went back out behind me and I broke my Fucking shoulder. When was the blending? 2019, the summer of 2019. So the next day I'm supposed to go to the Spice Girls concert, and I was like, there is no way on earth I'm missing this.
So we got in England one of these, you know, things from Boots, the drugstore, this little sling, and I I hadn't even gotten an x ray yet. And I went and I was in so much pain that actually meeting the Spice Girls under those circumstances was probably Better so I couldn't do that.
front of them instead. And your excitement was so tempered by the pain It was so tempered by the pain that I was like, It's amazing to meet you guys. Oh my God. Like it was so brutal. It was broken in two places. And then yesterday I uh I have bone density issues, that's clear, because I broke my toe yesterday. No kicking something. Are you kidding me? Doing what? On what? Getting out of the shower.
Yeah. What do you mean? Getting I know. You accident you accidentally you stubbed it up? I slammed I slammed it into something and now it's completely black and blue and like all messed up and so I've been icing it all day.
And you're sick and you showed up for us today. God bless you. Yeah, how did you not cancel it? It's a dream. This is incredible. Are you kidding me? I'm sitting on a computer on uh with with headphones. This is lovely. Half of one of those excuses would have made me cancel this thing. God, this is I was so excited. I would give anything for improved bone damage.
Yeah. Sorry, just sidebar. Sidebar. Wait. Sorry. We need to take um what is it? Boniva or something? There's some there's some pill to help our bone density. But I've broken seven bones. Before I was thirty, I broke seven bones. Emma. Isn't that crazy? Well so you then you seriously looked into this. You l you seriously do have one that's like I have a there's an endocrinologist was like, we gotta talk about this. Like something's up with you.
Right. And uh did he come up with anything? Just that I need to take a lot of vitamin D and calcium and do apparently weight bearing exercises like heavy lifting is what Creates more bone density. Well you could just drink milk and eat uh like dumplings from chin chin like Sean. Jesus. He has a glass of milk four times a day. Is that right? No, I t I have a glass of milk with m with dinner every night. No, you don't. I really do. Your joke. Why not? It's good for you.
Chris it's good for you. It's vitamins. When you sit at dinner drinking a glass of milk. Yeah, yeah. I saw it a week ago. Are you just doing it to be adorable or you really enjoy it? No, he this is what he does. No, I milk. You know why he lives like he's in the fifties. It's incredible. Twelve year old. Because water's too boring and soda has too much sugar, so I just drink milk. Well they you know, they have zero sugar soda now.
So listen, uh I wanted since we're on medical school I wish this was just a gallon of milk that I was looking at like so fascinating. It's but is it true because you have one of the you have one of those cool like million billion dollar voices too?
¶ Health Conditions and Sean's Milk
Is it true that you first of all didn't know you had a asthma until you had an asthma attack while filming EZA, which I read? And the other thing is did you really have a condition When you were a baby'cause you cried too much. And it made your voice Is that true? Yeah. Because you were colicky that you that gave you a raspy. Like extremely colicky for five months. What's colicky? Can you imagine? Now having a kid, I I cannot imagine having a colicky baby to that extent. Five, five.
Uh apparently a condition where your stomach is killing you. Like there's you're in a lot of pain. I it's like everything I can talk about is just my medical No, I know. It's fascinating. But here's what I think it is. It is it is the it is the uh intestines. Or part of part of the GI track that is still developing and unkinking itself, and there is a kink in the hose that is not. It still needs to grow to release itself and it takes a couple of weeks and the babies are miserable.
Miserable. So it was like if I was awake I was screaming myself hoarse every day and I think it was very, very traumatizing for my parents. You know you know what's good for bone density is those um those the astronauts who you know that thing that the the power plate thing that vibrates, that's supposed to be good for bone density. Oh thanks isn't that kind of a fifties thing too? Yeah.
I read it once over a glass of milk. I used to join that. I want to know let's get to the career stuff because it's really interesting to me. Okay, great. How old's your baby? Two and a half.
¶ Family Life and SNL Connections
Sweet boy, girl. Girl. Girl. Oh, sweet. I didn't know that. That's so fantastic. Congratulations. And thank you so much. Yeah. Thanks. With your husband who you met at SNL. Did you meet him at S N Lulie? Dave McCary. Yeah. And is he what what does he do with uh SNL?
He w he was a a writer director there for about five years. Oh nice. Doing digital shorts. And you met him there? Uh I met him there, yeah. But we had a bunch of mutual friends. So yeah. So great. I love that. I feel like I was there that week too, although you've probably hosted a few times. I I I remember I was I w remember being there once when you were hosting and I was just like oh she's a little bit hold on. I'm gonna host on December second, I get to get my five timers jacket.
I'm so excited, I can't even stand it. I'm I'm like I'm freaking out. You're so good at it. Uh that's really, really cool. Wait, so Emma, you and Dave married in the pandemic, and was that just because it was planned that way and you just kept it, or were you like, you know what, let's just do this now? You were waiting for a pandemic, right? Were you doing that? Didn't you guys say you wanted to get married but let's wait for a pandemic to hit?
Yeah. The week that I got married I I did open a refrigerator and the handle broke off and I got a black Oh my god. Oh my god. And that's where it stops. You know, I do need a helmet. Oh my god. I need a helmet and extensive hair. You got this new show with Nathan Fielder. I want to skip ahead. I know she's your guest.
¶ New Projects: The Curse
Oh yeah. But that that looks really sh I know she's your guest, but I'll take this one. But I'll say it looks really fun. First of all, he's great and not just'cause he's Canadian, he's super funny. Yeah. These motherfuckers and then they got one of those safties in there.
Yeah, they sure did. Put a wig on it. Took a boom out of his hand and said, Go. This is like a fucking this is like a fucking talent explosion happening in one thing. I'm so goddamn excited for this thing. I haven't seen I am so excited for this. It's a wild ride. Tell us about w how did that come to you to your orbit? Nate so Nathan and I have known each other through through Dave and and uh Dave's best friend Kyle Mooney. Have been a lot of people.
And they've been best friends since they were nine years old. So wow. They're yeah, and and so n Nathan uh knew Dave and Kyle well and and I got to know Nathan uh for a couple of years and then I think in 2020, 2019 maybe, uh Nathan called me and said that he and Benny Safty had come up with this kind of loose idea for a show based on something that Nathan had really experienced where
Someone had said that they curse him in a moment. And he was like, this probably isn't true, but he found that it haunted him. Sure. And They started coming up with this sort of premise of what what would happen if you're kind of going about your life and they had this idea for this couple who is trying to create their own HG TV show, but early on the husband
A a little girl says, I I curse you and if that hangs over the the premise of this whole show and how that evolves and kind of makes them go crazy. um, whether it's, you know, real or not. And it just sort of spiraled out from there and became this this very uh intense uh It's really It it is a comedy, but it's kind of not a comedy. Yeah. It's very uh yeah, it's there's a there's a lot going on there. So it was uh blast. And we were we were in um in New Mexico for like half of last year. Uh
Shooting that and say the title again. The curse. Yeah, the curse. I see posters for it everywhere. And say the title one more time. And what just for the third time just we have it? Um so um the curse.
¶ New Projects: Poor Things
I wanna talk about poor I wanna talk about Poor Things too, which is a movie that you have coming up. The Brilliant Yorgus Lanthemos. I'm gonna go see it this week. You are? Yeah. I can't where are you gonna see it? I'm seeing it uh At one of the screen because I'm going I'm gonna be at those. Yeah. I'll see you there. I just got a text for it. Yeah.
Oh, great. Was it me texting you to come to the street? Oh. Oh shit, it is a good idea. Yeah, interesting. Yeah. Um was this this is the second project with Yorgos? Yes? It was technically the third because we made a short film. Um at the beginning of twenty twenty. And then so but it was it was
Yes, it was the second fullest one. So brilliant. Amazing. We made another one in the meantime. We made another one in New Orleans last year. No. Really? Well yeah, with with uh with Willem. With Willem, yeah, Willem's important thing. Yeah, so we've done two together. And so for my s for my sister Tracy, um Yargos did the favorite, the lobster, just a bunch of
Great. Incredible. Dog tooth, which is so poor thing. So so did you develop it? Did you find it? Like did you just get an offer? Like how did that go? We so we so uh Jorgis and I did the favorite uh in twenty seventeen and right as we were wrapping up The Favorite, he told me about this book that he and Tony McNamara, who was the writer of The Favorite. Had had optioned and they were working on adapting. And he just told me the premise of it. And I was like, I.
with you. Yeah, yeah. And so for the next few years we uh worked on things and started kind of putting it all together and um And he asked me to be a producer on it, which was amazing. And so we kind of like assembled this team and then Uh at the end of two thousand twenty one. Why do I keep saying all the dates? Yeah, I don't know. You have incredible recall on dates. I have I do everything by date. So really? Month and year, yeah, yeah. Me too. Everybody's birthdays. Do you forget a birthday?
Oh can you forget a birthday once a year? I can forget a birthday, but if you say like hey, like we I I can say like oh yeah, like it was that time of year or that time. March of twenty twenty three, he knows a difference between April of twenty one and March of twenty four. Yeah. Crazy. But anyway, so anyway, so we made it we made it two years ago and um And yeah, it's just it's it's uh
It's probably my favorite my favorite thing I've ever gotten to do. Really? Yeah. Wait, so with w you you you work all the time, constantly, it seems like, which is great and everybody can't get enough of you. And so when you go from when you go from set to set
¶ Navigating Post-Oscar Life
Other than your child, do you have like something how do you set it up so it's home? Or how do you set it up so it feels like all right, I need to have at least this, this, and this in my trailer or this, this and this with me. What a fun question. I'll tell you I'll tell you three things that always keep me company, no matter where I am. Coke. App Sorry. Big plate of Coke.
Just the i she's gotta get through it. Jason. Go with it. You know, just suffering through this on cold medicine. She's here on I have a broken. Broken foot? I'm near dance. I know, I can't believe it. Um no, I uh apples and peanut butter. Really?
Really every day for a snack I have apples and peanut butter. Every day I have a Starbucks coffee. Doesn't matter where I am. Could be in the greatest coffee places in the world, Europe, wherever. Doesn't matter. Find a Starbucks. And what's your choice? A coconut meast. Coconut. What is it? A coconut white? Listen, they make you say misto, which you know the Starbucks lingo where they make you say these things. It's a venting. Coffee. Just a regular filter coffee. Drip coffee. A large.
With steamed coconut milk. Okay. And that's the that's the misto part? That's the misto. That's what makes it a misto. Mm-hmm. So that's not a latte. That's not a latte. No, because it's not espresso. So you have apple by the way, I have peanut butter and rice cakes always. Every day? Well, that's my treat. That's my snack. That's your treat?
Yeah, that's my snack for like a mid after. Peanut butter and rice cake? That's a healthy treat. It's not like you go and get all the twizzlers from the eye. Peanut butter gives you a little hit of protein in the big hit of joy. A lot of sugar. I like the peanut butter with the apples. It's delicious. Sean, explain for not for Tracy but for Jason what joy is. It's another kind of peanut butter. Not for no, that's jiffy. Um I
You were so fucking phenomenal in the favor and you won for the favorite, right? No. Yes, she did. No. Nominated. She was fantastic though. Thank you so much. Nominated. Wait, but what was the is that? You won a nomination, is what I meant. Did you really not win? You did win. Not for the not for the favorite, no. Well which one did you win for? La La. Oh that's right. Lala. Um God, you're so truly embarrassing thing to have to sit here and say No.
Not for that one. No, I wanna know. I asked. I wanna know. Um but wait, the favorite was you were still. My mom says I'm always a winner. Yeah. And always her favorite, huh? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But was that because when I wa when I've seen that movie, when I watched that movie, I was like, oh my God, this just looks like a colossal amount of work, that movie, the favorite. Like
It just looks so grand and so massive. That's just because a lot of it was in that fisheye lens. That's what makes it look so grand. You know what I mean? That's a little trick of the trade. That was in England, yes? That was in England. And La La Land was here in Los Angeles. Favor Favorites is such a good movie. I just wanted to apart from the work that you know These guys are so tired. But I I that movie was so good, Emma Stone. We'll be right back. And now back to the show.
Um was that that one of the hardest things you've ever done? That m what was the h what's the hardest one you've ever done? Oh God. Physically, emotionally, both, whatever.
¶ Cabaret's Stage Challenges
Lala Land had a bunch of stuff in it. Oh yeah. The the hardest thing I've ever done was on stage. Yeah? By far. Sean loves stage stories. I do, you know I do. Well, I've only done one professional stage. Show. What went wrong? Like ten years ago. Oh, you want a what went wrong story? I want to like a bad theater story. But here's the I did I did cabaret and I only did it for for three and a half months, which is so short by by stage. terms. I thought
I truly going into it, I was so beyond excited. It was it was probably the greatest experience of my life for the same reason. And I was like, Oh, you just do it at night. And then you do two shows a day on Wednesday and you do two on Saturday and it's just and then you're a home and you're j It it your entire life is eaten. The and it is so hard you have to live like a monk. Like there's nothing or at least I did because I lose my voice and I had to sing and it was like
I've I've never experienced something that that physically uh taxing as an actor. Yeah. It was it was unreal. I'm sure that's a good thing. And when you when you but did you did anything go massively wrong? Do you have like a a any kind of night where you're just like oh shit, my voice nothing came out when I sang or yeah. I mean I w had to take steroids multiple times. Like no yeah, no heart attacks in the house, thank God. But that
That's there are a lot of those stories. But that no, I I um just to add to my, you know, things that are wrong with me. I'm extremely blind, blind, blind as a bat. Okay. And I wear uh contact. For that. And uh
They both popped out of my eyes while I was singing Maybe This Time. And there's and it cuts have really been reaching for a note. It cuts I was really Yeah, I'm always reaching for those notes. That's I'm not a a singer per se. Uh-huh. And the And the lights went dark and you and you have to, you know, go off in the in the blackout. And I couldn't see a thing in the world. And I just went and like slammed it. It was terri that getting off stage, not being able to see it all.
And then couldn't find the contacts, right? They were on the floor in the but I no, I always bring spares. I have to travel with spares. Yeah. It'd be great if you did the rest of the play with glasses on, would have been great. If you came back out with glasses on
Yeah, all of it has gives me so much anxiety. But um when when you I always had a fear sean of getting hiccups on stage. Yeah. Oh my god, that's a great fear. Have you had hiccups on stage? No, but I had one thing where I had like allergies and I could feel the post nasal drip in the back. And it was right before I had to sing. What do you get when you fall in love? You know, with Chris Smith. Sure. And um I was literally like, What Oh no.
Like forever. Oh god. It was the worst. Panic, tears, because I couldn't cough, but I had to act like I was everything else. It's the I have a million of those. Okay. I I'm about to I'm about to
¶ Bizarre Hiccup Cures
Tell you guys something that I think that you're not gonna enjoy. I know Jason's not gonna enjoy this. Oh no. What do you do when you get I'm gonna ask you guys f I'm gonna go around to the panel here. What do you guys do when you get Do you have like a surefire I do not have one? I have a cure. Emma go first. I have a cure, but people tell me that I'm wrong, but if not if you do it right, okay? Here's the thing. Yeah, you don't scream at people. This is the solve.
Put your arm up above your head. Just take one arm. Put it up above your head. Well, just because I'm I'm right handed. So if you're left-handed, you could do it. Drivers don't do this. You take your don't do it if you're driving. Now take water and you're gonna and I'm talking like tiny sips. You go Swallow, swallow, swallow, swallow, as you lower your arm slowly.
Well nothing's gonna happen because none of look at all of us. None of us have hit it, but we're all doing it. Well, we're just practicing. Listeners, we're all doing it. We're practicing it. I'm telling you, it is A hundred percent of it correctly. Really? I feel amazing. What do you guys do? Sean or Jimmy? I d I um I wish I had something. I take a deep breath. Try this. And um and I kind of let it feel it kinda go away and then I take water while I'm holding my breath. It seems to work.
I've never told anybody I've never told anybody this. This is this is absolutely true and I can't believe I'm telling it. Already. Uh, anytime I get the hiccup. Uh and I remember one time vividly, years ago, our buddy Edgar Wrightwood did this thing um called Don't which is like a f it was like a fake movie trailer between uh uh there was like a double bill like a uh Robert Rodriguez film or whatever and he made this fake trailer and I did the
voice right anyway I remember going to record the trailer voice because I do don't even breathe. Don't even blah blah blah. I did this whole thing, right? It was in the West Village at this recorded place. And doing the thing and I'd had a soda, I think, and I got the hiccups because I was taking in so much air. And I was like, what the fuck? This is where I learned.
And I was like, uh just give me a second, I just gotta'cause I'm like hiccuping on, you know, trying to record. And I go into the bathroom. Finger down my throat and I make myself gag and throw up a little bit. Yeah. Gone. I get it. And that's what I do every time when I get the hiccups now, I go, Excuse me. I get it. That is disgusting. Were you just gambling at that point? There's a better way, Will. I don't know. It works. Do you do you fully throw up or do you just gag?
Ew well it depends on where I'm at, you know what I mean? Depends on what's going on.
¶ Family Tattoos and Arizona Roots
I hate hiccups. I will be able to do that. I was just gambling. I had no idea. Wow, that is Huh. I did not know this. You have a tattoo on your arm or your wrist or somewhere? My wrist. I wanna see. Very, very poorly done tattoo. Look at this. Now, this was supposed to be, I just want you to understand. This was based off of a drawing that was drawn with a pencil. Okay. It looks like bird feet. Does that look like a pencil? Is it a cactus?
It looks like it's a big thing. It's bird feet and it bleeds out more and more every single year. I got it thirteen years ago and it just keeps spreading. I in twenty years, this is just gonna be What kind of half ass tattoo artists were you in a French prison or something? I went into just kind of a random tattoo place on Fourteenth Street and No I was j yes.
Why didn't you consult with the sleeve? Why didn't you consult with the sleeveless one? He could have hooked you up with a with a great tattoo artist. And now I've gone to to good tattoo artists and said, Can I get this lasered off and redone? And they were like, Your skin is so thin there that it's probably just gonna look like your
Burnt like it might be worse. Oh really? So wait I don't know what to do. And your mom got the same one? My mom, my dad, my brother. I mean the story behind it is so special, but it was like and theirs all look Great, by the way. They all went to better tattoo people. And I was like I'm the one who has to cover it up for work every day and it's like raised up. It's really Don't you hang out with Thoreau just a little bit?
Oh, I know Thoreau. Yeah. Okay, so he could have hook you up with somebody with the maybe a a better I didn't know him then. Uh yeah. This was two thousand ten. I love that your whole family has it though. Any thoughts on Justin? This was October of two thousand ten, Will. You remember. I love that. I love that. By the way, I knew I w I wasn't gonna say it before, but you know when we Shot the rocker, it was June of two thousand seven. Okay. I know. I know you know. I know you know. Um
Uh uh That is y yeah, Jason brought up a good point. Any thoughts on Thoreau? And by the way, this is a safe safe segment. Anything hurtful that you can think of? Another segment we're introducing. Well, you know, he he suffers from eczema. There we go. Does he really? That's why he doesn't wear sleeves. That's right. No, that's not that's what he really wears a test. Um it's true. He did. He did. I guess he got an alert or something.
Kimmel knows how to like break into someone's Wikipedia page. The wrong person to know how to do it too. I love that. Will you guys put something on my Wikipedia page? Don't put that one. Put something different. No, yeah, we'll we'll put Jim's brain. We're gonna put cries when Justin Thoreau orgasms. Please. Please don't put that. Oh, it would be funny. It would be funny though. Do I ask about like early early because you have a brother, right?
I have a I have a younger brother. Very, yeah. Oh that is he in the case? This is the two of us. No. No, he works in at like a tech company. And growing up w d was he interested or no? He was just like you you do that, I'm gonna go over here. Not at all. He played football. Yeah, where was home? Where did you grow up?
With the poop with the poop. Remember? With the poop. Remember earlier that was the same conversation. Huh? Yeah. How long have we been talking? Remember from before? It was like twenty. Um what did you say? What did he say? From earlier. Um and uh good thoughts, good feelings about Arizona? Do you miss it out there? You still have family out there? I do yeah, I still have family out there. It the thing about
Yeah. It's it's difficult to I you need to be built for that kind of heat. And I I'm not it's not a fun heat. It's not a fun heat at all. It's like a hundred and twenty degrees daily. Yeah. Um we're gonna and uh I wanna I wanted to ask you this because we're gonna end on a industry business question. I love a a biz a bizarre. I love the biz district. I love the biz district. I love I love the heat, I love the buzz. Yep.
¶ Reflecting on Career and Goodbyes
When you you know a lot of people who win an Oscar like you did for La La Land, they you were amazing, so deserved. I loved that movie. I loved you in it. Did you think a lot of people who win, sometimes it's it's known as the curse of death with some actors. But first of all, I should ask, are you guys locked? Or before I give you these? Are you picture locked in Rolland? Yeah. Because you you got the Oscar, great. But a couple things. Were it me?
I got some notes. Yeah. I got some notes. I was gonna say, how did you were you nervous? Did you did you have anxiety? You're like, Oh my god, this is so great. I won the Oscar. But did you have did you feel like I don't know, a lot of the times some actors who win Oscars, you kinda don't see them for a long like years and years and years. Were you did you have anxiety about like crap I won, now people are sick of me? Nope.
Sure. Nobody felt that well. Why would you not that I was no but just like Why do you okay so Sean, why don't you tell us how you feel? Sean for the next one. Check Sean off my list. I know how Sean's gonna be a little bit more than a lot of things. That came out wrong. What I what what I meant was like, did you have anxiety about like I'm not gonna work? People are like People think must think like oh we you made a le I left that I this was a very uh lucky situation'cause I had a
I met Jorgos while we were filming La La Land and I left the day after the Oscars to go shoot the favorite. Oh, that's great. So it was It's kind of amazing because the next day I went right back to work and was back in the U.S. Did you have time to renegotiate your deal on your way to location? Yes. So that was I did delay my flight for a couple hours just No, but by the way, um that was a big compliment w is what I know didn't come out that way. Okay, okay.
How many great'cause you've been you've been nominated uh I'm sure a million times for lots of great awards. Do you have do you have do you have a bunch of great unused uh acceptance speeches? No, what? No. I bet you do. No. No, but I bet I bet you give some thought, some respectful time and some thought to what you would say up there. You're not one of these ingrates that would just, ah, if I win, I win, I'll just go up there and wing it. I bet you've got some fun stuff. That you...
Said I just my dream is to have like a book, uh uh coffee table book of people's unused acceptance speeches. That's a great idea. That's a really good idea. That's a really good idea, right? Well right? Yeah, because I guess it would be but then how do you do an anonymous acceptance speech? Everyone would know who it was, like the people they're thanking and Yeah. If you had gotten up there for the rocker, well who would you thank first?
Probably just Will. Yeah. Oh god. Thanks for being our guest today. Thanks for having me. No, but you did you got nominated for you got nominated for Lala and What You Won. You got nominated for the Favorite and you got nominated for Silence. Is it the Birdman? Yes. Yes. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. And you had to work with Galfinakis. Oh God, I know him that's like you wouldn't. Is there at least is there l is there a less talented guy in showbiz than Zach Alfinakis? I know.
He was he was so so sweet that whole time. Anyway, yeah, no, he really is. Uh what are you gonna do for the rest of the night and are you watching Golden Bachelor? No. What's Golden Bachelor? I love that answer. I love that answer. What is Golden Bachelor? You should never know what it is, Emma Stone. This is why you are you.'Cause you don't know I'm just out here breaking bones, getting sick, not watching Golden Bachelor.
Um well now I'm gonna look it up a little bit. You went through a phase. Sean went through a phaser is breaking bones, right? Yep. Early twenties, Chicago. Oh God. Hey. Emma, cool it. All right. Okay, okay. Sorry, sorry about that. Sorry.
Emma Stone, we're gonna let you go. We're gonna let you heal. We're gonna let you get s better. We're gonna make you feel better. We're gonna I'm gonna send some soup over. You don't need to send anything. Okay, great. Yeah, then I won't do that. Uh I just saved myself a call to my assistant. Thank you guys for having me. I'm sorry I was such a uh incredibly fast hour. Huge, huge, huge fan. Huge fan best. Such a massive fan. You're a megatal.
Yeah. Mega. Yeah. True. Emma Emma so much. So having me. Yep. Mental. Hey, hey, Emma, one thing, I want you to remember one thing. Yeah. And I I hope you've lived by this Credo. You can always say this to every any guy. If you want to be my lover First you gotta get with my friend. Well if you wanna be my lover, you gotta go with my friend. Thank you.
I will take that with me. Okay, got it. You're welcome. You not knowing that that was a Spice Girls lyric is one of the more painful things. Well imagine what I thought, because I didn't know it was a lyric. I just thought he was just saying that. Stupid crazy sentence. No. Like what? I was trying to connect. Did you just call the spice girl stupid and
Crazy for their not a lyric. If it was just as goodbye sentence for a podcast interview, and this is where I log off. What about when James Cameron when James Cameron Cameron won the Academy Award for Best Director of Titanic?
I had not seen the movie, but when he walks up on stage he says, I'm king of the world Did you say you've never seen Titanic? At the time I had not seen it. When I saw him go up on stage and say I'm king of the world, I thought, Oh no, what did he just say? I've never seen it, I know. Yeah. Oh my god. The guys you got a lot of homework to do. Jason's listening to Wanna Be by the Spice Girls. Will you're watching Titanic and Sean, just get get Ricky you know. Fix your cat. Get him a little.
Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye bye. Good night. Sean, you were right. Great show. Sick as a dog. This is worth you know, when we do these late night records, it's it's you know, the the the stakes are high that it that it that it be a good guess.
Well by the way, for the record, it was a 4 p.m. record. So when you say late night, for most people then they have a different Okay. But the other thing is I will say this, and this is a compliment to you, JB. Not even a fucking I'm not there's no punch. She has a great work ethic like a lot of people I know who started young in uh who were young in uh as actors, director, whatever, she has that same thing and you have that.
Uh which is she's sick, blah blah blah. I've in all the years I've done stuff with you, I've never known you to call in sick, not fucking once. Yeah. Oh, there was uh plenty of times when I'd clear my day when it uh it was three three AM and I was uh still having fun. Oh yeah, back sorry, except for the one except for when you blew back in the day in the day. Except for when you blew your colon out when we were doing that fight scene on arrest development. You did.
Well you fought too hard. You broke my colon. I know that's true. But uh but anyway, she she does have that great thing. She's always just God, she's so good. You always when you start listing off the stuff that she does and they're all so different, you're like Yeah, yeah, I missed on it. Yeah. That's that's something. She's in that category. She's in that never sucked. It's uh I
I always say John Goodman number one. He's the first guy I always think of when I think never has never sucked. And she's in that category. There are few people who fall into that category and she's one of them. Yeah, she's incredible. Um I didn't get to ask her about m I wanna talk more about Lala Land about how it shots. Next time, next time, next time. Honestly, nobody better.
Yeah, well I love Birdman too, you know. Oh, you know what I also like? Do you ever see Bye bye Birdie? I couldn't even do it. I couldn't even of course you're gonna do that. You're fired. Bye bye birdie. Wait, wait, no, wait one second. You can't just start saying that's it's just it's it's too you're too tired. See, it's too late. It's too late to even come up with a buy. Well, I was gonna say this. I love that she got her name the from the baby spice'cause she's such a fan of the
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