Is your team winning? Yeah. Wait, but it's Sunday, I thought they placed Saturday. It's Sunday, yeah, they play both in it. This is Liverpool that you're rooting for. Yeah, mate. Yeah. Did they score a goal yet? Did they score a goal yet? Oh, hang on a second. We're doing the full open, but we have a special surprise guest. And it's a pretty not turn around. Do not turn around. There's like a year surrounded by a princess. There's a princess, do you want to see Hayes? Yeah. Yeah.
It's a tiny Terry. That was a tiny Terry and this is an all new SmartLess. SmartLess. SmartLess. SmartLess. SmartLess. SmartLess. SmartLess. Sean, I just did the stupid thing to Sean, but I reminded me before you came on, JB, the other day I keep it funny in the way who's who bears. I'll just under red dinner, just the two of us over there in the sad car, but you forgot to wear your wig. No, and I know how can you forget the glue is so thick.
And you keep it by the keyboard, right? Well, the glue stick, the glue line ball, it says six weeks, but let's be honest, after five weeks it starts to crack. You have to reapply. Yeah, yeah, you're reapplying, but I have like a little caulking gun. I can get it. Sometimes I just I could just do a touch up in the moment. You know what I mean? Like if I'm windsurfing.
Get a good cock. Get a good cock in there. Yeah. But right, right as the red as the as our server came to the table, I just go, I go look up the circle one second. I go, oh, sorry. So to answer your question, it's guess who's back backing Shady's back. Tell a friend. As if I was at her, it asked me the lyrics of that M&M song. And then I go, sorry. Yeah, we're ready to order.
Did the did the way to have any idea? No idea. Did it was a lot of me. You know, I'm still, first of all, they're not there. They're not there for entertainment. They're not they're not psyched. They don't want to laugh at your stupid. Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, like a waiter goes like, hey, we're all out of the salmon. You go, all right, we're out of here. The waiter's like, hey, fucko. I've heard that a million times.
I just want to take a point. You know, I've, but I've said it a bunch before. So apologies, but I have always kind of love the idea of being a waiter just for the performative element of it where you have different, each table is a different stage. And you, the different audience and you got to figure out who they need you to be in order to get the biggest tip.
Well, that would be my game. Let's hope this your new limited series hits because if it doesn't, you might go to you might get a chance to try it out. Wait a minute. Speaking of, yeah, Sean did the nicest thing last night. He came over last night with Scotty and took a look at the first two episodes because we're not locked yet. I need eyes on it. I need I need opinions.
And you're going to shut your mouth for one second because will have you seen the two episodes the first two episodes? No, well, no, I'm not there with you. No, I just I didn't know like if you could send it to him.
It's so fucking great. It's so good. Of course you're going to say. You know, I don't need to go out. Yeah, but like, oh, it's really good. Anyway, well, that's kind of it's so good. And Jay, that character's unlike anything I've ever seen you play before. It's so surprising and exciting. And it's likeable.
Yeah, no, but it's going to be one of those series everybody talks about it's your course. It's your completely sucked in right away. Who's that? Why is that guy? You're asking your questions as an audience member and you know they're going to get answered in the few episodes that follow. But it's so when you didn't run out of the first episode, I knew I knew I was in good shape because you do like to be in bed five thirty.
Maybe I must feel good. You've got you've got the you got to get a bunch of demographic. You know, you got the moron demographic. I was covered there in. I was really pressing him in Scotty. I was like, you guys sure you understood everything. He asked me that after. He asked me that after you sure you understand everything. I bet it's going to I bet it's going to be great. I have no doubt in JB. I'm going to say this too while you're while we're in this
thing. I was thinking about the breadth of stuff that you've done. I was thinking about the last couple of years. I was thinking about a movie that I love that doesn't get enough attention. We do about to no no no no game night game night. So one of fun is so good. And then you do like identity thief. Then you do Ozark. You've done so many different things. It hats off to you.
You don't get it. You do a lot of great shit. So congrats. And I'm excited for black rabbit. And the reason I bring up is because you've been working so fucking hard. I know I exhausted you are but you've been fucking. Yeah doing it. And it's very inspiring. I really appreciate that listener. I apologize for all of this. No, no, this is good. We're going to pay it back in space. Having said that. I know I should go on. Couple thoughts.
I was sort of not to throw back the wind up the bomb but I was thinking for some reason this morning. Oh, I know why because our next guest is a fancy pants in the Tony world. That Sean, you want to fucking tone. Okay. No, no, but I mean that's like we did spend a little time on that but it does keep coming back to me. That's not something that I'm going to do.
Yeah, it's a Tony is a real deal. Believe me. It's not lost on me. It's like that's a whole different community that I just a very, very proud. You both will do it. You both will do it and you'll both be nominating. You're both when you're not going to be a real deal. Yeah, Tony is a real deal. Believe me. It's not lost on me. It's like that's a whole different community that I just a very, very proud. You both will do it. You both will do it and you'll both be nominating. You'll both win. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know. But no, it's pretty, it is, it is pretty amazing. I was and I was even about to do handout to Tony and Sean and handy from a Tony. But I did it. I'm like, fuck it. I'm not going to do that because I respect you too much and I love you too much. I'm not going to make a stupid joke and try to connect. It's too easy. It's too easy. There's too thin. You know.
What else can we talk about while our listener or listener and guest? I got a couple things, but we should probably we should probably get to have the list to go up the list. No, I was just going to say on the way home, I told Will, Will you and I were driving home from a friend's house we visited in the hills a couple months ago.
Yeah, and I told Will the story of Jay, I haven't told you so when you go past Grace Stone mansion. Yeah, and there's a runaway ramp there. Yeah, for truck. Yeah, I heard this. Yeah, so no, no, so like several years ago, I was like, let's try that. Yes, I did. I swear to God, I tried it. And because I was like, what would it, what would it feel like? Cause I want to know what it felt like. Well, I didn't know it was, I thought it was just like an inch of gravel. It was just a stop of truck, but it's like 80 feet of gravel.
So when I just stop the truck, yeah, it's supposed to completely absorb you like quick sand. I drove up it and I, I know and I started singing. I was like, Holy shit, I got so scared. I peeled it out. I kicked some gravel up and I thank God. I got out of there. You got out. Yeah, what car were you in your Audi? No, it was before that. Oh my God. You're so lucky. You weren't the dumb ass next to a call on a tow truck like quicksages like with your hood, your hands up like had to try it. Sorry. I'm not sure. I'm going to get it. I'm going to be doing it. I'm going to be doing it. I'm going to be doing it. I'm going to be doing it. I'm going to be doing it. I'm going to be doing it. I'm going to be doing it. I'm going to be doing it. I'm going to be doing it. I'm going to be
doing it. I would have loved to see me open up a daily mail and see pictures of you next to the tow truck and just explaining to the cop and then you have to pay because they had to come over. All right. Here we come. Guest, wake it up. Listener, pull the car over. Our next guest is one of my favorite people in the world. Period. Wow. There are some people that you meet have a connection. You become friends. The connection grows. Carries through many years. Many stages.
The journey to the end of your life and there's these people become your family. There aren't many in our lives. So when you have one you smile and bounce a little every moment you spend with them and if you're lucky enough to work with one of these people, you end up doing a lot of smiling. So between you guys and her my cheeks are killing me. She's one of our finest actors and accomplished producer, a rising director and incredible mother, wife and daughter. She's the recipient of three Academy Award nominations, five Tony's, nine sags, one one of those, a BAFTA, eight Golden Globes, one two of those and seven Emmy nominees,
one for those. She also has a doctorate from Brown and Juilliard guys. Please welcome my fake wife, but true bestie Laura Lening. Oh my God. Oh, and a dead dog in the background. And the dog in the background. I got this is a long time coming. Yes, it is. And you had to suffer through all that bullshit. We were there. I had to earn my place. I thought that maybe you and Jason were
in a fight. It's been so long. I thought what happened? She's tough to schedule. You know, she's busy and her deal. The tough deal. Sure. I'm thrilled to be here. It's great to see all of you. You too. I mean, when he was going through all those norms, like nine. I mean, I know. I mean, it's unbelievable. People like her. It's bonkers. She doesn't suck. Laura, I'm going to say this. Would you ever think about wearing getting a t-shirt made that had listed all your nominations?
And it just says ask me about the seven Academy Awards. The thing about it every once in a while. I mean, I don't know if you guys like this, but I have to stop and every once in a while. It'll hit me. And I'll have to remind myself because you never feel like that's happened. I mean, you never, you know, and I've been nominated a lot. And I don't win all that much, but I'm nominated a lot. And but every once in a while, I'll be walking down the street and it will hit me. I'll be like, Oh my God. Yeah. Oh my God. Like Sean.
Like Tony winner. Right. Yeah. Tony winner. It's amazing. Congratulations. I know in a soft year. But but but but Lori. I think the thing that keeps us all sort of grounded is and I'm looking again, pointing out that your dog is asleep in the background of your shot. No matter what you do know how many nominees, no matter how accomplished somebody is, they're always likely in a room where there's a dog that's asleep and doesn't give a shit. Yeah.
Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And the, you know, the sock drawers, a mess and, you know, there's stuff that hasn't been taken care of. And I'm behind on everything. And, you know, I have family members who are peved at me because they haven't heard from me in so long. And so there's there's all of that stuff. Absolutely. But then there is, you know, the wild moment we were like, Oh, oh my God. I cannot believe
I've been able to do everything I've been able to do. Yes. And that you chose the thing that you chose to do with your life actually paid off. Oh my God. Yeah. Come on. Crazy. What about what a great writer you are to? I'll bet you've got some spin out. You've won plenty of things, but you've been nominated a shit ton too. So I'll bet there's some speeches. Now, do you keep them in a drawer? Do you remember them?
Great. Because I want to have like a coffee table book once of all the unused speeches and whether it would be anonymous or not. I'd yeah. Wouldn't that be great? Yes. Well, the thing that I found is that you sort of you have a sense if you're in the running to win. And then there are times when you know, like, I'm not winning. There's no way I'm going to win.
So in some ways, that's the, that's the nicest because then you go and you get to have a good time and you're nominated, but you know, you're not going to win. So you don't have to worry about. I'm going to forget. Nothing. Because I know. And then there are the times when you know you're in the running for things and you do have to prepare. So I must have been I do have a few.
But, but, but Laura, would it be interesting to go back and look at some of those, some of those unused acceptance speeches and go like, oh, I was going to think that person. I went not today, not today. Not today. I was like going over your will. You're out of the will. The wins have changed. So all of which is to say, as I did say, you don't suck your grade at what you do. And it started a long time ago.
Tell us about like, remember like the first thing you saw or exposed to that made you think, well, I think I'd like to see if I could maybe do that. Was it, was it a show? Was it a movie? Was it a play? It was the original production of vanities that was downtown at St. Clements Theater in the church. I was, well, my father was a playwright. So I grew up around the theater. So I always knew I wanted to be a part of it in some way. I really didn't think I'd be an actress.
I really, it took me a long time to sort of get there. But I went and saw this play and Kathy Bates was in it. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's a three person play. You know, it's not the greatest work of, you know, dramatic literature ever written. But there was something about it and being in that space and watching those three women be so wonderful.
And I remember leaving. I was like, Oh, I'm different. Something has changed. Yeah. And it's the power of really good work. You know, it's teenager. Oh, no, I was younger. Definitely younger. Yeah. Yeah, I think I was 11 or 12 probably. Yeah. Wow. That's that's really cool. All right. So then from there, do you say to your dad, hey, what do you think the best first steps might be for me to go in this direction?
How did that start? No, what happened was my father was an apprentice at a theater in New London, New Hampshire called the the barn playhouse. Yeah. The new London barn playhouse. And I used to spend the summers with my dad. My parents split when I was very young. So I would spend, you know, time with my dad during the summers. And I begged him to let me go work there.
So I went and I was a technical apprentice. And I broke every child labor law known. I was there like, oh, yeah, you know, making a mess and doing all sorts of stuff and being way too young to be doing what I was doing. But it was drunk in the dressing room. Absolutely. Seeing everybody hook up and break up and you're referring a lot of hook up. Yeah, absolutely.
But then what about the first time you got on stage and and and like risked, you know, look at me. Let's see if I got it. Yeah, it was a production of it was a Christmas show at school. How, wait, which school? How old? I was I was really young. It was middle school. And it was the same year that Ms. Magazine came out. So we did.
I was in 1981. That's right. We did a feminist turn. We did a feminist turn on Santa Claus where Santa got a cold. And Mrs. Claus had to take over. So I was that was that. Oh, nice. I remember the first one of the first things I ever saw that made me go wow. I was like 12 years old. And I saw a chorus line. And I was not how different my life would be if I'd only seen it sooner like it. I was like, five, six, seven, eight. Yeah. Seven is that what. Yeah.
So then all right. Now we get we get we you start you start going you start building up some momentum and then you end up. You end up it right now does. Does Brown really kind of formalize your your your your your leap into this into this world or was it a julia art? Well, I think probably at Brown, I was more sort of an academic theater nerd. So I studied theater history and all that sort of fun stuff. And and then and then julia art was where it got serious.
Yeah. And the first sort of job that exposed you to the world would be I was the understudy in a production of six degrees of separation, which was right across the street at Lincoln Center. Oh, wow. And I was actually at that theater yesterday watching Holland Taylor in NA. So it was it was fun. Every time I go in that that space. It's, you know, it's professionally where where I started. So I was the happiest.
I was the happiest understudy around. There was this room of understudies who were like, hello. Yeah, I get how you doing. They've been understudies for years. I would bounce in happy is can be and I would sit in the catwalk and watch the show that's up top that's over overlooking. Yeah, where the lights are. Yeah, I would sneak up there and watch just to watch stocker Channing get better and better and better and better and better and better and better.
And there was one night I remember Catherine Hepburn came to see the show. Yeah. And I was in the catwalk watching Catherine Hepburn watch stocker Channing. Wow. And you're by yourself or you with somebody else. Somebody in the catwalk. I think that's got it. I've never heard that before. Yeah, you're up by yourself in the catwalk at Lincoln Center at what a teenager young.
No, no, this was after Juilliard. So I was early mid 20s. Yeah. And because I had done stock and was a technical apprentice, I knew how to get up into the catwalk. And you got a little snack with you a little no you're up there just like enjoying. Yes, I and high school used to hang out up there and just. Yeah, but when there's no show, we would just go up there and
Oh, yeah, Sean did have a snack with them. Right. Yeah, probably it's probably sweetest fish. But but Lori, like it occurs to me that you were so like you had no choice but to do this life that you chose or it chose you. A little bit. It was such a young age and it was just that was your life. You were around you were in summer stock. You were the thing your dad.
You know, it was every one of you. You wouldn't know. I got it worked out and thank God I love it as much as I do. Yeah, do you still do you still love it as much as I love it? Yeah, you do more now or less. Oh, I think I think more because the longer I'm in it, the like a new set of problems sort of unlock themselves is like I've earned the right to a new set of problems.
Right. And so it just keeps going and talk about the eight shows a week thing. You still enjoy that. Yeah, hi, I do it is but how insane is that no one has any idea what that is? That's difficult job in the world unbelievable. And that type of fatigue is a very specific fatigue. Well, the plus and the one woman shows you've been doing too.
Yeah, that was the same. That was fun. Why did you know we're nowhere to hide it in a world of show? Right. Yeah, I know. And I did it three times. I don't you know, I did it once in London. This was a show called my name is Lucy Barton. And then I did it again in London to see if it would get easier because my first run wasn't that long. I was like, well, if it comes to New York, will it get easier? And what I learned is no, it does not get easy.
It does not. It does not. It gets harder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you get all this incredible training at Julliard. And then you come out into, let's say, a show biz. What were the biggest challenges coming out of that and into this into a professional situation? You mean? Yeah, that's less sort of.
Protected in sort of this, you know, theater world and and and and and technique and study culture and entering more of sort of a business. Yeah, well, you have to learn how to translate what you've learned into an appropriate setting. You mean, you mean camera versus stage? Well, there's that. But then also just on stage. I mean, there's like going to school is very different than being in the profession.
And going to school is there's a certain type of concentration and there's a certain ability to get things done. And and you have to learn how to translate that. So you're still doing what you're doing. But that it's appropriate for the situation that you're in. No one wants to hear about your process when they're working. Right. No one wants to hear about it. You get a deliver.
I love that actually. You got I remember because I did it with him on teenage mutant interturtles. I know we did a lot of process. I think that turtle is going too fast realistically. But what about what about how about like going away from the sort of going into much more of a world of now I got to make a living doing this. How do those two things reconcile? You know, you just sort of throw yourself in it and you just hope to God it's going to be okay.
Right. You know, and you wait tables. Yeah. And you just sort of keep at it. And and you realize what's to do. That's right. I wouldn't be bad. I don't think I'd be were you any good as a way. You wouldn't be good at it because you'd have to touch things. You have to touch other people's food. And that would not go terribly well for you. I don't think. People who know you you'd be awful. I could deliver the food. I don't think I could clean up afterwards.
You know, like when they take you tensils and they gather them in the middle of the plate. No, you have to touch them. You have to do that. I'd be so glad. I don't think so. We'll be right back. All right, back to the show. I have to ask you Laura. I was going to wait till the end, but I'm going to ask you now any great theater stories. Yes, that just that. I guess they like something. You must have like a classic something that went horribly wrong.
Oh, Lord. There. There's a lot of time. We come back to it because he doesn't he wants a good one. I love them. They're the funniest stories. They are the funniest stories. Because so much funny. Somebody somebody somebody's supposed to do something. Have a heart attack while they were doing a show once. Yeah, who was that? I guess who was that? No, they didn't. They didn't. But some of the audience did. Yeah. Yeah.
It's usually the good stories usually happen when you're in a show that's really bad. Yeah. Yeah. Really bad. Yeah. Of which I've been in several. And it's so painful. And you really think you're going to rip the skin off your body just to get out of the embarrassment and the humiliation of it. Yeah. What about Laura? What about is there is there any show that you did that you and by show?
I mean, you know, any kind of a stage show that you did were and not to make anybody feel bad, but that you thought this is going to be the thing. And it just didn't click with audiences. No, you sort of know. Oh, yeah. You got to know if it's really bad. You kind of know. It's the ones where you think like, oh, this is right on the edge. I don't know. I don't think this is terrible. I think it's pretty good. I don't know how good it is. You never know how good it is.
But you know how bad it is. That's something. Yeah. You can't run away from that makes sense. Then then conversely was there ever what was the thing that you thought people will like this, but you were surprised at how well it resonated with people. I think well, I did a production of the Crucible a long time ago with with Liam Neeson that Arthur Miller was actually involved in.
And before I accepted the job, I was offered goody proctor and I thought, oh, for fuck's sake, who wants to do the Crucible? Oh, God, you know, eat buckles, shoes and ye oldy speak. Oh, for God's sake. And I called my dad and I was like, I've been offered goody proctor and I don't know. I don't know if I'm a, he was like, oh, no. He was like, you do that. You must do that. He's like, it is a great play.
And it's only because we've all seen nine hour high school productions of that play that it sort of, you know, it's badly represented. Not that it shouldn't be done there. It should. But, you know, you don't realize how great that play is. And I had no idea what a masterpiece that thing was. A masterpiece. And then you had incredible audiences for that. I'm sure. And that sort of was that a bit of rocket fuel in your careers,
as far as things that followed that. I mean, can you, can you identify a particular job or moment where it felt different to you? Like, oh, the next few years might be a little bit easier than the last few. Now, I've never been someone who feels a big boost from any one job. I really haven't. Wow. I think it's been very subtle and consistent. And I'll take that.
Well, I mean, that's fine by me. Just for me, just as an audience member, I would say, you hit my radar significantly three separate times early on with Mystic Rivers, within the whale. And you can count on me. Like those were big, big moves for me, just as a fan. It's funny because different people have different things. You know, some people, there's the love actually crowd. The indie movie crowd, there's the clonies would crowd. There's, you know, it's, there's the theater people.
So it's sort of, it's always interesting. The John Adams people. Yeah. I mean, you conquered it all. I know. I know. Hardly. But what, no, but when you hear those credits, you go like holy shit. Yeah. Right. And they're so varied. I mean, we're talking about J.B. a little bit before. And actually Sean too, if you think about you, you've done you want a Tony. I mean, these are, I have not one in Tony. Oh, no, no, Sean won the Tony. Sean, Sean did, no, no, without question, he won a Tony.
We all have one. Yeah. Yeah. And what, what was it? You know, a very quiet, quiet, but do you? But you did so many things that were like that worked on so many different levels. And you think about Ozark or you can count on me, I love, I mean, we love Kenny Lonergan. Yeah. Was that your first nom? Was that your first Oscar nom? Yes. Yes, it was. I remember that. I remember singing at home. I was so blown away. Of course, everything before that.
But that movie really had an impact on me and you, especially I was just, that's when I first was like, oh, my God, I got to find out more about this person. And I just thought, you know, there was this, they did a 25 year, like fundraiser thing. And I had, I don't like to watch myself. So as Jason knows, I know I just don't get it. But I treat yourself to it. Oh, please. So I went and saw that I went and watched it for the first time in 25 years.
I think I made that maybe the only scene at once. And it was so wild. And Jason, I don't know if you feel this way when you look at stuff from a long time ago. But I saw things in myself. Well, I saw things in myself that don't exist anymore. Yeah. They're parts of me that are just from another time. That because of age or where I was or the relationship I was in. Parents and dynamics and all of that's gone. And then I could also see the things that I recognize, you know, that is still there.
It was a wild thing to. Yeah, they're time capsules kind of a back moment in your life. We had rough low on and he talked really he talked really lovingly about sort of we got the role on you can count on me and his collaboration with with Kenneth Lonegren. Does it all still sit fondly for you? Was that was that as great as experience? Is it seemed like it was?
It was a very tough shoot. You know, they had like two cents. So we were sitting outside. And then we had to clean out. And finally I was like, guys, we need a place to sit. Like I can't sit outside. I can't change outside. Like I need a place. And so in behind the house where we were filming there was a chicken coop. That literally the chickens have left like two days prior. I mean, it was like, you know, chicken shit was like hanging in the cobwebs.
And I was like, perfect. So I went and we cleaned it up and we all sat in the chicken coop. So it was it was very rough and tumble. But you know, it bonded us all for life. I mean, Mark is literally like my brother. And you know, Kenny and I are still close and you know, all of us are sort of you know bond and that's the thing about what we get to do.
You know, the connections that you make. Yeah. Jason Bateman. You know, our deep and meaningful and and very, very, you know, significant in your life. And it's about. Yeah. And you do develop chosen family along the way. And it's really it's it's one of the greatest things. Do you end up spending more time with people on set than you do your your family at home when you're working on something. Yeah. 12 hours. Yeah. What else I'd love was Truman show. Let's not forget about Truman show.
Truman show. You see there you go. It just keeps going. I know it goes. It's on and on. And I just had the idea that you brought up about this about like it being sort of a different life and a different different parts of you that kind of go away. I was talking about this recently with somebody. And it's an interesting thing as you get older when you start to recognize that. Oh, yeah. When you when you when you literally have a history. Yeah.
You have a history. You have different periods of your life that you've been through. Not just one. Not two. But many. And it is real. Yes, yes. You know, last night's got to I went down to YouTube rabbit hole above opening such opening songs to old shows from the 70s and 80s and 90s. And we did silver spoons. We look at magic today. Yeah. Yeah. All those dukes of hazard like massive life Dallas all that.
I don't want your life. I'd really love to come back as you shun. I mean, this is how we fill nights. We go over. I was watching these openings of these shows and it's going to be right back to being a kid like you. Something clicks in your brain. Man, yeah, one of your Jones. Yes, all those. And I didn't I didn't remember like the second I saw them.
I actually had the feeling of a moment. Like you said, a best stage in my life, which you don't sit around think about until something triggers it. No. You know. All right. So now you you you've got you know, I love you. We tell these these these ding dong's about this great super romantic story of you and Mark meeting each other in one of the most magical places in the world. And I just she's got two incredible dudes in her life or son and her husband.
All right, you go ahead. So there you are. Okay, so here I am. I've been very, very single or five years or so. And I'm invited to the tell you ride film festival where I'd there are two films screening there. And I think, oh, you know what? I've never taken my mother anywhere. I should take my mother to this. This will be good. I'm just going to fly and fly out to Rific. So I bring my mother.
The great. And you know, sometimes you're paired with a you know, a liaison who is a little, you know, eccentric. Sometimes those people can be a little you know, out there. Sure. And Mark sort of bounded up to us and said, hi, I'm Mark shower. I'll be taking care of you for the weekend. And I was like, oh, okay. Like a nice, a nice person. Okay. And we spent the weekend together. And I can remember we were waiting to go to a screening.
And we were waiting for Bill Conn to my director to come downstairs and join us so that we could leave. And I remember I turned my head and I looked at Mark and I was like, am I attracted to this person? Am I attracted to my handler at the tell you ride film festival? I was like, I was like, calm down. Like how wonderful I was feeling anything at all. He's got the title of handler. That's right. That's right. You know, yeah. And I thought, you know, I'm going to be gone in 24 hours.
Just be happy. You're still alive and get out. And you know, my mother was my mother was with me. So there wasn't a whole lot. No, were you collaborating with her on this? Did you, did you ask her what her, what her take was? Oh, no, no, no, no. My mother on the way to the airport. She was, what Mark, are you involved with anyone? At what point I wanted to fall into the center of the earth? No, no, no.
Center of the earth. And he was like, no, actually, I've been single for a bit. She was, oh, how interesting. I left. And we ended up, Mark and I ended up just emailing each other. I just thank you and I had a great time. And we, emails sort of started to fly. And then he started to get a little nervous. He was like, I don't understand what's going on. And I immediately called. I said, look, I don't know what this is. I have no idea what this is.
I don't know for friends. I don't know if it's more. The only thing I know is I don't want to let it go. So I don't know what to tell you. And he goes, well, when can we spend some time together? And I said, well, I said, I'm on a tour, a press tour when they used to do that. And he goes, well, where are you going to be? I said, I was going to be in Seattle. I'm going to be in Chicago. He's like, I'm from Chicago. When you went to Chicago? Oh, boy.
And I was, well, this date he goes, I'll meet you in Chicago. At which point I got very nervous and very scared and tried to get out of it several times. And I can remember going down the elevator in Chicago to meet him in the lobby, just terrified. Like, what am I doing? What in the world am I doing? I Jesus, God, someone I do. What is happening? So this point you hadn't been on a date in quite some time? Yeah, no. No. So when you say you're scared, is that what you mean?
You're like, scared? Like, I don't know how to do that date. I just, I didn't know if you, I didn't know this guy. Is he real killer? Like, what am I doing? Right. I don't know anything about this guy. She's flown across a country across the sea. Oh, my God. Where is happening? What is happening? And where did, where did, did he live and tell you right at that time? Yes. He drove, he had to, he drove a friend's car, which he had to drop off anyway.
He was doing a favor for a friend and he just made it work. He had to get full of bodies. Yeah, you got a good thing. You get rid of bodies. Yeah. I put it in his car. That's right. Sure. And I got out of the elevator and I turned and I saw him there and like every fear evaporated. Oh. I was like, oh, this is going to be fine. Yeah. This is going to be okay. And that was amazing. It was amazing. It was amazing. You could just read that in people's faces. Yeah. It was really.
Yeah. Like, there is just a chemical sort of. It's like five there. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you just, you're like, oh, oh, okay. Okay. This was how many years ago? Oh, my God. 18, 20, 2004. So, almost 20 years ago. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. And how old is Bennett now? He's 10. He's 10. 10. Oh, God. Yeah. Is that why I'm not sure? I know. So everybody go to film festivals. That's all I can say. Tell your right is a magic place. It is. Just go, go, go, go. That's a great, you know what?
That's a really nice story. Yeah. You didn't have to do any swiping, nothing like that. Although, you're swiping is very nice. Now it is. I hear it's easy. Imagine. Now, Bennett showing any interest in doing what you do? No, absolutely not. And refuses to watch anything I've ever done. Yeah. I mean, I'm like, my kids the same way. I made teenage mutant Ninja Turtles specifically for him. For him. Right. Because anything else would emotionally damage him and scarred the life. Did he say it?
No, he won't see it. Refuses. What? Refuses. What his problem is? Because my kids do. They're just, it's just weird. I think it's not. And they don't like when something bad happens to me. Oh. They can't deal with like any sort of pain or even any sort of like challenge, like running from someone or something like that. Yeah. A black rabbit with you. Yeah. You're not going to like that. Oh, and I agree with you, Sean. I've seen the pilot.
Amazing. And I, I knew it was going to be, no, listen, I knew it was going to be good. But I had, I was floored by how great it was and the thing that's great. Tell us what Laura, Laura. Hold on. No, no, no, no. I'm not done. The thing that is amazing, when you have a relationship with someone who you've worked with for a long period of time and you watch them grow. And to see Jason, turn into this unbelievable director. I mean, always great.
This is a whole other level and I've said this to him. I mean, it is, it was absolutely, I was, I was undone when I saw him. Yeah, he's very nice to you. I agree. And I agree and I want to say this too. I agree with you and we mentioned it before. I don't want to embarrass you, JB. But it's also very confusing to watch somebody, your friend, someone you love grow while simultaneously they're shrinking. Yes. That has been total atrophy. Yeah. That's been a real.
I saw JB at the pool at his house two days ago. I came up with two days in a row. How'd you see him? And he was at the moment. The light must have been hitting him directly. Now speaking of directing, Laura came in heroically and agreed to direct episode three and episode four. I can't wait. She's just finished. Laura. And she crushed this so hard. Well, we haven't seen it yet. I was there for every single day and I've seen the dailies, I've seen the stills, et cetera, et cetera.
But, you know, I knew she was going to be an incredible leader on set as far as just like this culture of friendliness and kindness and support and all that stuff. Like the crew just freaking loved her as did the cast. I'm sure. And I'm going to be in the effort with this added responsibility, like not to be little acting at all.
But actors simply are kind of insulated from, you know, like almost three quarters of the process because things need to be decided on and set up and assets need to be put into motion and et cetera. Then the actors come in and do their magical thing. She took on all of that, had only done it once before on Ozark, directed one of our best ever. And I, she was, her place is about three blocks from our studio. And I said, hey, it's real close. It's not terrible stuff. There's a good crew.
There's a good cast. We would love to have you. We please consider it. And it would have been so easy for her to say no. And Laura, let me ask you this. And you don't have to pat yourself on the back. But isn't it a gift to have been an actor and then a director? Without a doubt. And also like, but I really, I can't emphasize enough how I would never have done this unless Jason really pushed me to do it. Ever. I had no desire to do it. None. Why?
I would say I didn't want to be one of those like, you know, idiot directors who you're saddled with who didn't know what they were doing. I didn't want to be one of those people. You're looking at JB. Why are you looking at me? You're staring right at me. And then also I didn't want to jeopardize my relationship with Jason. Yeah. I mean, that's another thing. Yeah, but that horse left the barn on Ozark. We did such an incredible job on that episode.
I'm, but still, you know, it's, it's, I'm, I don't think of myself as a director at all. I think of myself as an actress who's directed a few things now. But, you know, I don't know, as I've said to Jason, like, I don't know how to thank him for that. How do you thank someone for giving you a whole other sort of, you do it all the time. But what about now, do you, do you see, I'm going to get you, I've talked to you casually about this. Now I'm going to get you on record.
What part of your life going forward do you see directing being in? Like what's our ratio going forward? I mean, I, as you, you talked a little bit earlier about how the roles, you kind of implied this. So the roles get better and better the older we get because they're more complicated. They're more nuanced. You're, you're drawing on more from yourself. So acting, I'm sure, won't slow down. But there is time to do the directing as well.
Did you, did you get enough of a challenge and satisfaction from it to make it a bigger part of your life? You know, I think I will go with it the way I have gone with the other stuff, which is if it comes my way or if there's something I find or if there's something I want to do, then I'll do it. But will you tell your people to look? I think they will look. Okay. All right. Okay. What is it, what is it done for you as an actor? How has directing this much now changed? Has it changed the way?
Yeah, but no, but do you think it's going to change the way that you approach, that you approach the work now, that you approach material, not to get into process, but just like when you, when you're reading material, do you look at through a different set of eyes a little bit? I, you know, I'll have to see because the, the Ozark, which I did was such a, a, a bluff and sort of I was, my head was spinning the whole time and, you know, I just didn't know what had happened.
And then this one was so intense in the best way and so all the consumers, literally we, we finished on Thursday. I just got out of bed this morning. Yeah. I mean, it took me like three days to, you know, like the fatigue, it's a whole other level of fatigue. Look how white-datter dog still is. Exactly. You know, so, you know, so I'll be really curious to see what it does. Hopefully it will make me a better actress. I mean, that's the, that's, that's the hope.
Did it take more out of you than doing a one, one woman show eight shows a week? Absolutely. Are you really? Absolutely. I didn't have to deal with any people. I didn't have to deal with anybody. It was just me. I only had to deal with my own horrible stuff. But I didn't have to deal with, you know, 200 people. And, and 4000 questions. Yeah. Did you, do you have, you don't have to reveal any names, any things, I mean, what's the thing that you find difficult in any working relationship?
Something that gets you, that you won't, first of all, that you won't stand for or second that really kind of rubs you the wrong way and you look out for to avoid. Yeah. I think it's always hard when people have a preconceived notion of what something is supposed to be. Yeah. And then you come and you see something very different or you see something way beyond that. And it's, and that is always a painful negotiation for everybody.
And I understand from the other point of view, like why that would be hard. I totally, totally get it. And we were very lucky on this one, you know, how amazing all these writers were and all of that stuff. But I've seen that from the acting standpoint as well. I've really seen it more as an actress. Like people don't see what, I can just see things very clearly sometimes and it's, I turn to these people and go, but you wrote this. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just doing what you wrote. Right.
Like whether you are aware of it or not, you wrote this. Yeah. Right. You know. Right, right, right. We'll be right back. And now back to the show. Now you've been Jason's on-screen wife for many years. You were. Yes. Lucky me. Lucky you. Yeah. What, what's something about Jason Bateman that people might not know? He'd like to know some about. Yeah. Yeah. If we were going to have it before us, what would it be?
What is something that Jason does that's kind of unique that you've noticed about him like a cook? Here's one thing that I think why our friendship is so fulfilling for me at least and why working is so good is that we work completely differently. Sure. I mean, we come from totally different cultures, completely different. I love watching him work. It's just kind of amazing and it can only, that sort of work can only happen.
And now I believe as well, the directing is benefiting from this as well. From someone who's been doing it as long as Jason's been doing it. I mean, it's in his bones in a way that it will never be with most people. He's just, you know, had the time with it and and. Well, he's only got bones left now. You know, it's true. He needs several cheeseburgers. He's walking back. No, it's really. But this is probably what would lead to our divorce. It's too much work. It's a workaholic.
Amanda and I talk about it all the time. Well, she doesn't, she doesn't tell me not to, but she's just like, she's asking me this morning too. We're talking about this other thing. She's like, well, is that, if you were to direct that, is that all consuming? I was like, it always is. It's always good. You know? I know. But that's why, that's why we love it. Can we get Amanda on here at some point, too? Do you think? Can we talk about a deal? And then we're working our way into reality.
And you're real wife into having Amanda on me amazing. I'm just down to stand in. We'll go around the circle. Next one will be either your current partner will or an ex or something like that. Sean, you as well. We'll all take turns. It'll just be sort of just like a rotating blood bath. You know? Oh my God. Well, you sort of test the waters with me. I'm sort of, you know, as close as you'll get at this point.
Laura, what do you do to zone out after you've been working 14 hours and you're done directing something like that or a big play or something? I got a bed. Yeah. You know, I mean, honestly, there's not a whole lot that happens. I mean, what are you going to do this week? You're not. You finished directing that show last week and now like this week is your recuperate? Are you going to yoga or are you going to Pilates? Are you going to go to gym? No, no, I'm staring at a wall.
You're staring at a wall. I'm going to stare at a wall. Yeah. I'm going to be really quiet, really quiet. Right. So quiet activity is reading, watching bad reality TV occasionally. Yes, guilty. Are you reading anything good? What are you reading right now? Anything good? I just picked up. Oh God. What's it called? I won't leave you. Do not leave me off. I forgot. But I was reading, you know, vigorously until until black rabbit happened. Yeah, yeah. And then it all fell apart.
And then you're going to start editing next week, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow is one of the things I read last year, which I just still am floored by. Really? Tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow. It's wonderful. Fiction? It's wonderful. Yeah. Spectacular. Yeah. Is it a thriller? No, it's about three friends who make video games. It's a world I know nothing about. Don't care about. And boy, this book is glorious. It's so beautiful. It's wonderful. It's wonderful.
I'm going to read it. Are the options available? I think they're already. I'm sure they're already taken. Also, the librarianist is really good. I've heard that. Patrick DeWitt. Yes, I have. Very, very good. Yeah. So you can join my book club. I'll send you some recommendations. I've just been reading this. I'm reading this biography as 20 years old on the de Kooning right now that it's just absolutely fascinating on built. That will on the painter will him to Kooning.
There's still be a plath biography that everybody loves. I want to write that down too. What about if you weren't an actor or director, what do you think you would do? You had to do. Not where you would have possibly hit a left fork instead of a right fork early on. But today, if you had to pick a different career, what do you think you're best suited for right now? Would you write books? Would you teach a Juilliard? I think medicine. Medicine? Yeah, I think medicine.
Is it like a doctor or something? Yeah. I think so. Do you love medical stuff? I can't get enough of it. Yeah, no, I do. I like to know people's issues, how they got it, what you're like. And I really know things. How do I know what a paracardiome is? Why do I know that? I could see you working with people in maybe medicine and maybe teaching, maybe doing something. You have such a kind smile. Yeah. You really do.
But all the way through Ozark, every weekend almost, she would be flying off to give some sort because of her show The Big C, which was Senator on Cancer. Yes. Yes. She would give these speeches to correct me, Laura. Patients, doctors, medical institutions, recovery homes, et cetera. She'd just delivered these speeches about the will to live and the joy of life for how to deal with grief, et cetera.
You'd write these things and you'd fly across the country with your weekends off to talk to these people and buoy them. I just, I didn't think that we were angel. I love that. Yeah, and I sort of use it also as a way for arts advocacy, which is just to talk about the arts as much as I can, anywhere I can, as long as I can, because it's so important. It's like Sean, she's not sitting at home making sloppy joes and figuring out what team is. Who loses? Who loses then?
Sean and Scottie Seeret talk about farts advocacy. Right. We're going to need to be on. But I just think it's like you're going to cut lines upstairs after you're done with all this angel work. I don't know. Where does it come from? Mom, dad? I don't know. I think I like people. I think I, you know, and I love the arts. I love the arts. I think, I think like more than just like a selfish thing, I think it's unbelievably important for for culture and society. I can't agree more. I couldn't.
It is so undervalued. It's unbelievably medicinal. You cannot, there is no waste of time when you're engaged with the arts. It will make everything better. I mean, it's just so great. I'm so agree. At a time when the brain is growing too. So like with, you know, like with the work that you do at Julia Art too, and kids are, I mean, they're not, they're not toddlers anymore. They're young adults. Yes. And that work for you is super fulfilling.
What, what, what, what remind you what your role is currently there at Julia? I didn't do that. I didn't do that. Tell Tracy and Wisconsin what you're doing there at Julia Art. And what Julia Art is for Tracy? Julia Art is a arts conservatory school, which is sort of one of the deleting schools in the country that teaches music, opera, dance, drama. They're four departments. At Lincoln Center? Right across the street from Lincoln Center is the Julia Art School. It's there.
It has a long illustrious history. I somehow by the grace of God got in there. And you know, people will ask like, what was your big break? And for me, it was getting into that school. Hands down. Hands down. Yeah. So I was there for four years. And about 15 to 18 years ago, they called and asked me to give the, the commencement speech, which I did. And they also invited me to join the board of school, which I did. I was the only, I think there were only two artists on the board at that time.
And I've been on it now for a long time and I'm now vice chair for a limited period of time. So I'm very involved there in seeing like what institutions like Julia Art, what they do, how they do it, why they do it. And the, you know, the challenges that are facing young artists today. Yeah. And also I try to, when I have the time, I try to mentor the, the outgoing class. I will go in and talk to students. I'll take them out to lunch.
I'll, you know, and sometimes I can do it and sometimes I can't. What is the biggest challenge, Laura, for, you know, young aspiring actors today? What do you think that biggest challenge is? Money. Yeah. Money, right? Yeah. I mean, it's impossible. I mean, and which is why Julia Art is making such a concerted effort to go tuition-free. You know, it's, and why a lot of schools are. Because we train these artists at this very, very high level. They leave. And then they can't support themselves.
And then they drop out and we lose them. Right. Do you spend, do you spend a lot of time raising money or working with people or working with groups to try to raise money for the school? Are you guys dealing with high net worth individuals? All these people that you need, these patrons as it were. Yes. Yes. Who some of them, I mean, I'm sure some of that's tough, but you need that, right? Yes. You need to have these people in order to keep it running. Yes, the angel people.
Yes. And then you need the small donations as well. You need people just involved. You need people who just, you care about the arts. When you're in your pocketbook for one, you know, I just said, no, Jason. I just did a whole new winter wardrobe. It's in right now. No, no, listen. Okay. We love to learn a lot of ways. We need to new clothes. Yeah. It just got back from Paris. Yeah. He goes. And he's speaking, speaking of books, I've, tell me something you've seen that you love recently.
Maybe show. Before we leave the Julliard thing, let me just, and speaking of angel people. So, Lord just continues to blow my mind. So we have this young actor on the show. His name is Robert Elijah Coleman. He is, he was going to Julliard. He got cast in this show. He was working on a day, this is a month ago, when Julliard graduation was happening. He had done his four years at Julliard. It's incredible to graduate from Julliard, but he was scheduled to work on that day.
Partly my fault, I was directing, but Laura was prepping her episodes coming in, so she was, she was around the set. And what she decided to do as a big shot at Julliard was to grab his diploma, grab his cap and gown, write this long speech, an incredible speech that one would receive if they were lucky enough to be at their ceremony when they're graduate, but he couldn't because he had to be sitting on set.
She asked me if she could stop production for about five or ten minutes, bring in a cake, do the whole thing, gather the whole crew, and she delivered the speech, and she put on the graduation music and everything. This kid, the greatest, greatest guy, was so bold over as was the whole crew and cast, and she presented him with his diploma and full graduation ceremony right there on set after four years of Julliard. It was like, what was that idea? That is really, really, really sweet.
That is incredible. Well, it's, there are moments in your life, there are big moments that need to be recognized, and Eli had been through, I know what it is to go through Julliard. I know what it is to graduate from that school to feel like you've done something and know, oh God, what's going to happen now, and you've done it with an ensemble of people, and for, it killed me that he was not going to be with his class. And he didn't tell anybody on set.
He did not mention it to anybody that he was missing at the graduate school. Yeah, I knew. So I went to him, I'm like, are you okay about this? And he was so good-natured about it. He was so happy to be there. He was like, I'm fine, I'm fine. And I just, I just sort of couldn't, I couldn't stand it. So I, and Jason was, was kind enough to let me sort of hijack the set for a bit. So it was fun. It was really fun.
Yeah, the performance of being at a graduation doesn't come close to doing the thing that you graduated for. Right, to get the job. Yeah, absolutely. And it didn't matter that they had to move that day, that he had to shoot that day because Jason had a golf game on the other day. That doesn't matter, doesn't even come up. It doesn't even come up. Well, work it out. He doesn't even come up. Yeah. Because he's got a team time with his buddies. Now, Sean, what was your question that was a good one?
I was just going to see, I'm always interested in what people are watching recently that you liked or any recommendations, documentaries, movies. Alone. Alone. Oh, he chasing loves that. I love alone.
Can I just say one more thing I want to talk about alone before we get out of the Julears of what can people do to support the arts wherever they live, wherever anybody is like, what would be a really important thing that people who listen to our podcast could do to try to help young people get involved in the arts? What can they do in there? Oh, I know. Vote for the Democratic ticket. There's that. Well, apart from that, what could people do? Honestly, Laura. Go. I mean, I think Sean.
I just thought that was a really good suggestion. Listen, Sean. One of the hell. Sean's got that update on his iOS, where he does double thumbs up. He's his fireworks. You know, I think it's go. Find something in your community that is there. Go with your family. Have a communal experience. And go get off your phone and see what happens. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I, here's, here's a big name drop a moment, but Edward all be said to me one time. You know, pick it up.
Yeah. He said, um, he said, listen to Bach for 10 minutes every morning. He says it organizes the mind. Wow. And he's right. And so I tell, when I give these speeches around the country, I tell people like try it for two weeks. See what happens. Just 10 minutes. And Jason, you know, because you love classical music. You know, that it's, it does. It permeates your being and it realigns you in a way. Music does. I mean, Sean, you know this as well. You know, it's, it's a powerful thing, the arts.
And, and I think it's the most underused resource we have or one of them in this country. I, and it makes me crazy that our government has never really leaned into that. Yeah. You know, to be, and to, except now our certain general is, is using it for mental health. Yeah. You know, he's encouraging people to get involved in. Yeah. You said there's probably a lot less violence in the world. I know that's a crazy thing to say. It's not.
If people, if more people are exposed to the arts, they're so... Absolutely. Yeah, and graduation rates, just skyrocket if a kid is involved in the arts. Yeah. It's just skyrockets. And there's always something somewhere and you don't have to be good at it. You don't have to be an artist yourself. You have to be exposed. Will is talking about, but starting to paint. He's going to start painting a bit. Yeah. I can do stick figures. I mean, that's, you know, way beyond.
We're not expecting more than that from Will. It's not going to be, I'm not going to be showing anything. It's going to be. I guess you will. For this Christmas, that's all I want from you. I want it. And I want it painting. It's going to be really shitty. I'm excited about it. I was just thinking about it this morning, actually. Good. I can't wait. But I think it's like, you know, grab someone you love or grab someone you like and go and have an experience and just see what happens.
I grabbed somebody I liked at the stop and shop, but I didn't know it. Yeah. You're going to find out what happens when this case is. It's not your wife. It's your kid. Check out the daily mail. So let's get to you're talking about alone. You love alone like JB and Brand new season just started. I watched it because of him as well. Yeah. Yeah. I know it's intense.
I love the guys who go and this is early in first few seasons, the really tough guys who are absolutely going to crush it and they're gone in two hours. Yeah. I know. I feel like a Russell in the room. And they're like, I'm tapping out. I'm tapping out. I'm tapping out. And I think that would be me. Yeah. I wouldn't last for two seconds. I'd tap out before they land the helicopter. Yes. Celebrity alone would be hilarious. I'd be tapping out when I'm connecting flights in Minneapolis.
I'd be like, I would hang up on my manager on the phone call. The request. The great Aline Kishishan would get the hangout. That's right. I love like the places they build for themselves. Yeah. You know, those huts and the, it's just sort of, it's like they're just making it and afraid of, like, kind of just heightened it a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. And I also love like these poor people filming themselves at the same time. I know. I saw a part of it. I like it when they build a great house.
Like when a guy, there was a guy who wanted some one of those seasons up in the North West Territories in Canada and he built like the stone house with moss and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The moss. The moss. The moss. The moss with soap. And then they got to rip it down when they leave. They do that little time-lapse thing when it all goes away. I think no. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a massive fan. You know, well, I, you know, I love all three of you.
And you know, I've been lucky enough to work with two of you and Sean were due. Yeah. I would love it. I would love it. Figure that out and thanks, JB. Thanks for the effort. I'll see you in a few days. Say hi to Mark and Bennett. I sure will. And go feed your dog. Love the family. We'll do it. Okay. Bye. Bye, Laura. Thank you. Bye. Well, that was lovely. It was painful for me. It was a lot of, a lot of love to receive. I'm not good at that. But you're doing better. You're doing better.
She's, um, you know, she's dead. I love if you could, if you could pick a second wife, she would be it. Well, imagine if it wasn't her. I mean, it was her for a reason, you know. You guys really connected. And I can't imagine anybody else playing that part. I remember, I still remember the day I, I, I, um, she was the first person I went to on Ozark. I took her out to, uh, breakfast, uh, at this restaurant in the bottom of this hotel I was saying in New York, it was their scouting, I think.
And, and we share a manager, a link, a shishion, and I said, do you think Laura would ever consider doing a show again? And she's like, we should just talk to her. Just, you know, and I, uh, a matter of that restaurant and just pitched her for an hour and a half. And was really nervous about even the possibility of her saying, yes or no, I just was such a big swing.
Because I knew by having her on the show, not only would it, would she be an incredible actor on it, but what she would sort of signal to the audience and to the community in, in the business about what the show is and what the show isn't. Like, she's just such a great recruiter of high quality people and, and a declaration of, of sort of the, the quality we're kind of shooting for.
Yeah. And it was just such a gift that she said, yes, I, the show would never would have happened without her ever. Yeah. I mean, I can't imagine, I can't imagine anybody else doing that part. Yeah. Yeah. So lucky. Um, and what a great guest. Yeah, she's, I've always been such a massive fan. Like, she's an actor's actor and, uh, she really is. Exactly. And you look at, you look at her body images, cause on and on and on and on and on and on and on, I, I am DB. Yeah. It's crazy.
I love that she was here. And by the way, long time coming. Yes, exactly. Yeah, that was, um, I mean, I remember talking to it. When we got, when we first got started, um, we were still doing Ozark, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right at the end. That's right. Yeah, I mean, I mean, we, for a year. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I remember talking to her. Yeah. And I was sort of just looking at me like, I could just sense she was kind of looking at me like, you're doing what? Yeah. Every week you're what?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then yeah, then she started saying, well, you know, some people are talking to me that apparently they've listened to your podcast or something. They're people are liking it. I'm like, I got it. You got to come on. You got to come on. And she was like, yeah. Well, I was nice. It's nice to know. Here we go. It was nice to know. Oh, here we go. Oh, now you're just telling us. Yeah. This is the guy who, when you merge, you're free to drop by or something like that.
Is that what it was going to be? You know, just be a terrible merger on the freeway. You guys come in doing 120 miles an hour or doing 30 miles an hour and then we've got a slam on the brakes. Go ahead. Zippin. No, I just thought it's nice that she said hi to directing, but she definitely didn't say fine. You acting. Cry. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck, fucking, fucking, dude. Holy shit. That is right. Bye. We might have to put you on a hiatus. You can't have this.
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