"Jennifer Lawrence"

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Jinx, buy me a Coke. Do you drink Coke? Do you even know what a Coke is? No, I don't. And what is that? Hang on a second. Jinx, buy me a Coke? That's a thing? Jinx, buy me a Coke. You never heard Jinx, buy me a Coke? When you say the same thing, you go, Jinx, buy me a Coke. I've never heard Buy Me a Cook. Is that a Chicago thing, maybe? I don't know. I think it's a universal American thing.

No, I've been living in America for quite some time and I've worked for Universal. Oh, that's right. And neither of those instances did I hear that phrase. Welcome to a new smart list. Hey, Sean. Sean, you got up a little early today and did your hair, huh? Well, it's leftover from last night. Wait, did you sleep in a bonnet? No. You know, my daughters both sleep in bonnets now, so their hair wakes up nice and...

Fresh? Really? Yeah. It's like silky satin bonnets. Like a nightshirt and a bonnet when they walk around with a candle protecting information. Like Scrooge. Oh. Oh, Lord. He is ill. Yeah, I'm fucking sick still. How about I got two colds in... Two weeks. I know. I can't believe that. I've got Theraflu going right now. I did that same thing, JB, we were talking about yesterday. I had three colds since October, and they just went back to back to back. Like, insane.

Yeah. Why am I such a bitch when I'm sick? Are you on the mend? Yeah, but I'm still coughing and I'm grouchy and draggy and smoky. Can Sean bring you something? Yes, I did offer. I'm sorry, can we? No, he... I get it. I know who's a caretaker here. He did offer twice yesterday. I know. Such an angel. Well, I mean, do you really want me to?

Well, no, I haven't asked you for anything yet, but I'm good. I'm all right. If you want something, Nick is happy to bring something over for sure. My assistant. Will, where are you? Are you in LA? I'm home. I'm in LA. Yeah, it's so nice. Wait, so you're closer to me than Sean is, so you can bring me something. I would love to. I would love to. And if I'm just looking at my calendar now, I would love to. You're looking for sleeves for your shirt today? Yeah. I know.

Says me. Listen, at least I'm wearing just because it's like gym wear. You know what I mean? I'm not like pulling a Thoreau. Are you guys bitches when you're sick? Yes. Yeah, I'm the worst. All dudes are. All dudes are. I'm the worst. I don't know. I think some guys can just kind of push through it. Me, I cancel everything. I'm surprised I didn't cancel. Well, I know why I didn't cancel this. Yeah. I know why I didn't cancel this. This has been canceled before.

I know you, I know I ran into somebody on the weekend, JB, and sorry, I'm hearing less gain from Rob for me. Okay, gotcha. Loud and clear, Rob. Thank you. Jesus. Wait, did he give you a side text to lower your gain? Yeah, he did. He's like, we're getting too much of you. And you know what I mean? Anyway, somebody I ran into this weekend said you were supposed to do something and that you had to cancel because you were sick. That probably wouldn't have been me.

Yeah, I was supposed to go to a party with Shawnee. And what else? Oh, I was supposed to do some freaking press thingy, and I couldn't. It was a press thing. And Amanda and Franny were in New York having fun, and me and Maple. maple she's the fucking dirty carrier that gave me this cold i love dirty carrier get into i love when people start to try to do like who they got the cold from and it's because we all just get it from i know but

It's her. I had just gotten over COVID. Remind us how old Maple is again. I was supposed to be babysitting. You know what? I had to test her. temperature by, do you guys do this? You put your lips on the forehead.

You put your lips on the forehead of someone to find out if they're running a fever or not because your lips will tell you. You can't put your hand against it because your hand is hot or cold. What do you mean your lips? Yeah, if you rest your lips. Before a thermometer is for sure that's what we did. But for sure. And I think I got it by doing that, putting lips against her sweaty forehead. No, you can't get it from that. How do you get it?

She sneezed on her hand or something. She touched the surface and you touched the surface right after her. Who knows? And you both got it from somewhere else. I mean, what is she going to start to do? What are you going to sue the person? No, I know. I know. Remember that during COVID, everyone was like, who do you think they got it from? I know.

Who do you think? I don't know. Anyway. I like it's their fault. Anyway, look, Jay, you have 50 minutes left before you can go back to sleep. All right. Hey, I think maybe we should move tomorrow's thing to do a Zoom. I don't know if I can make it to that lunch. What do you think about that?

What do you think? Oh, yeah. What do you think? Yeah, we can do that. Love it. I'd love to not see you tomorrow, to be honest, if you are still ill. Yeah, see, no one wants to get sick. No. All right, here we go. I'm going to fucking pull up. my bootstraps for this one because this is this is listen can I just say this for your can I just say for your guest again I want to reiterate because you are

Such a baby. And the fact, no, I'm going to say a baby. And the fact that you did do this is a real sign of respect to the guest because knowing you and knowing how selfish you are, this is remarkable that you were able to sort of... This is a big deal for me. I like this person.

I know this person a tiny bit, but I want to know her more. Our guest today... This is the second youngest actress ever to win an Oscar. And the youngest person ever to be nominated three times. She knows how to act, but it's not because she went to some fancy drama school. She's self-taught.

She also knows about world issues and is a fierce advocate for the less fortunate, but not because she went to some fancy live arts college. She's self-educated. She's glamorous, but she's not a diva. She's a major movie star, but she keeps it real. Yo. And she has enormous wealth, but she still lives in her first car with her husband and two toddlers. Let's find out how she does it all, guys. Please welcome Ms. Jennifer Schrader, Lawrence Maroney.

You too live in your car. Living in your car. Are you referring to this TikTok? I've seen it. Oh, no. Really? Oh, there's a TikTok. Where you're living in your car? That my friend's nanny was like, it's like, Jennifer Lawrence, no matter how much wealth she has, she's never moved out of her first house. And she still drives the same car, but the car is like an old Buick. Will's already trying to pull it up. I don't have TikTok. I'm not. I'm not. I was putting my thing on.

Hi, guys. Hi. I listened to this podcast. I'm really excited to be on it. Do you really? So excited that you're here. She was supposed to be, she was my guest for the bowl. Yes. Yes. I know. I found out. How excited were you, Jennifer, to get the cancer? When it got canceled. Was that just like the greatest call ever? I mean, for a person like me who likes to sit at home all day, when the rain came in, you know, it forced our hand. It felt like a blessing, sure.

I don't know if I'd go that far. It seemed like God was shining down on just the smartless cast and me. It would have been nice to be out there. How fun to be out there at the bowl. You guys wouldn't get stage fright. Well, you guys do this in front of audiences a lot, so you're used to that. I would have been nervous. You would have been nervous. Yeah, that's a big deal. Is that a part of you being a little bitch?

I am a little bitch. Oh, what you were saying earlier. Sorry, you brought it up, not me. I would have faked it, though. But he found the time to comb his hair today, which is nice. I didn't expect one of you to be in a tank top. I know. I'm sorry. It's not a tank. It's not a tank. It's a sleeveless T-shirt like Justin Theroux. Is it from Theroux's Target line? He's got a new line of target, doesn't he? He wishes, he should have a line of target. Obviously, I thought you guys meant the row.

Is that from The Row? That would be a good way for him to mark it. Yeah.

No, I was at the gym. Pardon my appearance. Jennifer, so nice to meet you. Where do we find you today? Jesus. I am in my bedroom in New York. I'm in my car. My first car. If you had to live in a car, what kind of car do you think it would be? Oh, good question. Like a camper van. Yeah. How about Willie? I haven't talked to you about this. The new VW electric bus that you drive in your new movie. It's rad. I know. It's really cool. I fantasize. I want that car. Is it great?

Yeah, I mean, it's, yes. Listen to how careful he has to be with his GMC contract. And I'm thinking about my Hyundai thing right now. I'm thinking, what, we got to cut this. But I think that thing's pretty... I'm a Volvo gal myself. Are you? Wait, do you do the Volvo voice? XC90. What? No. You don't do the voice. Oh, no. I just drive a Volvo. Oh, you do. An Audi. I'm an Audi. Audi. No one's asking. My husband's an Audi guy. Is he? Yeah. Wow.

This is what it's like to be one of the guys. One of the cars. Wait. Yeah, but I would say to answer your question, it would be a GMC Yukon XL Denali. Oh, Jesus. Wait, where are my questions? Here I come. Blue. I have a blue one. Sorry. All right. Is it Jen or is it Jennifer? Jen. Jennifer, if you're trying to get my attention. Jennifer, if I'm scolding you. Jennifer. What about how cool that middle name Schrader is? I like that.

Yeah, I didn't care about it growing up. You didn't like it? Yeah, no. That's cool. Is that a family name? Can you imagine if it wasn't a family name? It was my grandma's maiden name. It's nice. That's a great first name. Because Jason hasn't bothered to get to this, where are you from? I don't know enough about you. I don't know enough about you. I want to know. Check out my first question. Guess? Guess. Yeah. Guess.

I feel like this is kind of well known. I wonder if there's a state that will offend me. Can I tell you? There might be. Can I tell you something? It's because the first time I think that I saw you in something was, is it? Winterbone. Winterbone. I think of you as being from, like, Missouri. Appalachia. Or Appalachia. or whatever it is. That's in my mind. That's how great you are in that. Oh, thank you. So I'm going to say you are from... Take your time, Will. Can I just say West Virginia?

You can. Again, adjacent. Kentucky. All right? Louisville. Oh. Oh, okay. All right? How about that? Yeah. And now she, here, that's my first question. You grew up in Kentucky with two older brothers, Jen. And you have said that you were always the tough kid. How do you think that environment shaped the kind of roles you were grabbing? See, this is not. What I need to do, I've got to read the questions first, and I've got to make them my own.

Are we still rolling? This is such a loose operation. You're not wearing a shirt. So you've got two brothers. All right. Now, do you think... Here's the way I would phrase the question. All the roles that you play. Fuck, dude. Shut up. They have a sass to them. And do you think that the sass is in the part or do you bring the sass to it? Thank you. Oh. Goodness. I mean, most of the time, yeah, it's in the part. I recently saw Meryl Streep say a quote.

that was, you know, she seems like she knows what she's doing. She was like, it's about like finding the similarities between the two of us and like bridging a gap. And I was like, okay, so that'll be my thing too now. Right. But I feel like that. Now. I try to do that mostly because I, like you, am completely untrained. And it's all just sort of like for me.

I don't want to make this about me, but we're going to for a second. I kind of try to find what is the part of me that's closest to the part. And it seems like, because I never catch you acting, that it seems like you're staying inside your goalposts, the limits of... of what different parts of gender is. You have no limits, in my view, sorry. Yeah, you know, but would that be fair that maybe you were doing what Meryl was talking about and she just kind of put words to it? Yeah, I think.

That's fair. Where's everybody from? Can we do a roll call? Yeah. Sean? I'm from Chicago, Illinois. I love Chicago. Isn't Chicago great? Yeah, the vibe is cool. This is a slippery slope, Jack. What he loves to talk about Chicago. Oh, my God. Here we go. It's pretty fantastic. People from Chicago, they really love it. And the suburbs, like right outside of Chicago.

No way. By the way, this is my high school. I'm wearing the t-shirt. Are you serious? What are the odds? And then she mentioned it and then you're wearing it. Yeah. Jen, why do you love Chicago so much? Have you done time there? Done time. It's about 16 months up in Chicago. I had cousins that lived there, so then I would go and visit as a kid. Have you ever worked there? No, I've never worked there.

Yeah, it's pretty cool. Your cousin's in one of those suburbs, like in Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. When he comes home to that house for Thanksgiving, that to me, that's the idyllic suburban. So cozy. You know, that's like the only Thanksgiving movie.

I put it on yesterday for my 13-year-old as a Christmas movie, and she saw in the little synopsis right before I clicked play, she goes, wait a second, this is Thanksgiving. I'm like, it doesn't matter. It's a great holiday movie. She goes, no, I'm out. Sounds like you're a kid. Yeah, but Jen, you know, it was wild. I was a teenager growing up in Chicago when John Hughes wrote and filmed all of them surrounding me, like in all the neighborhoods around.

And I was in high school when they would come out Pretty in Pink, you know, Home Alone or whatever. Ferris Bueller. Ferris Bueller, like all those. So it was like, wow. And I was so enamored. We're talking about your affinity for Ducky and how much you identified with Ducky. I was called Ducky all the time.

No way. Shocker. But anyway, but did you, so that was the thing that influenced me was being, Hollywood coming to Chicago. And I was like, wow, it was so close to me. What was that for you in Louisville? It's interesting when your age lines up with the movies that are coming out. I had that with Harry Potter. I was like 11 when the books came out.

what was Hollywood like in Kentucky? No, but men, like, what was the influence for you? What was the outside influence to go, wow, I want to do that? Oh, well, I don't, I mean, really nothing. It never occurred to me that that would be a thing. or possible. I wanted to be a mom. I wanted to be an interior designer, which I'm not good at that. That was a job option. But anyway, and then I went to New York.

with my mom on like a long weekend from school and we were watching street dancing in Union Square and I got like discovered. Oh, really? Really? Were you a break dancer? Is that what you mean, like break dancing? She was waiting to get on the cardboard. I did that too. That's crazy. No, I did not. No, she's kidding. Oh, I did it.

That's cool. Wait, street dancing? So what, you were just watching and somebody saw you? Yeah, we don't get a lot of that in Kentucky. So my mom and I were just like, what's this? And then somebody, what? How were you discovered? Yeah, wait, what happened? This guy came over and was like, I work for a modeling agency, can I take your picture? And my mom and I had no survival instincts. We're like, sure, do you want to go to a hotel? Do you want to take pictures of me?

Church on, off, what do you think? Tops on? Wait, wait, wait. So this person comes up. I want to know this. So this person comes up and goes, hey, we're from a modeling agency. We want to sign you. We want to do a picture. Whatever that is. That's sort of creepy. And then... What's the progression from there? How does that all, how do you start making movies? I signed with an agency that allowed me to like act, which was like commercials and stuff.

Out of Louisville? No, so we had to go back to Louisville. But now that I knew that this was an opportunity, I was just like, and I had actually made money. I had saved money from babysitting, but also I trained horses. And so I had like, you know, a couple grand. And I was like, I'm going. And I was 14. And originally my brother came with me who was like 18.

And we were just like, we are going to die. Wait, just the two of you? Just the two of you went to New York? Yeah. Our first meal was at Applebee's in Times Square. No way. Because it was familiar. Because Sbarra was closed. Yeah. I think mine was at the M&M store or whatever. But wait, what about... Last meal. She said first meal. Okay. You were 14. How old was your brother at the time? 18. Wow. And your mom and dad were just like, great, go have a good time. Yeah. I mean, they were...

I mean, they were supportive. I know that it's weird as parents to hear it back. I mean, but at the time it was like, I think, I don't know. I think they could tell. That this was just, like, kind of happening. And so they tried to, like, make it as safe as possible. Right. So they sent me with my brother. So you just dropped out of school? Yeah, I dropped out of school. I was only going to do it for the summer and then come back for school. But at the end of summer, I had booked a sitcom.

that shot in L.A. This is the Billingville show? The Billingville show. And then I was supposed to get, you're supposed to graduate, get homeschooled for your credits or whatever, but we just kind of left it. Left it. Yeah. Wow. Believe it. And who drove you to L.A.? Was it the photographer? In a van? In a van. My dad drove us in the black era from Kentucky to L.A. Wow.

Why didn't we fly? We needed a car in L.A. We needed a car in L.A. Okay. And we did a perfect swap. We swapped our apartment in New York. for somebody else's house in LA, and it was just a Craigslist situation. Oh, wow. They sublet your apartment, you mean? Yeah, and then we take their house. It's just a bunch of gypsies just running around the country.

Chasing an artistic dream. I love it. I know. It's like rehearsal season two when it's like, this guy's going to fly you on a camera. And he's like, how many people said no? And he's like, no button. And he's like, actors, dude. Such intense dreamers. I saw that. That was good. And we will be right back. People love Venmo Stache because it just makes sense.

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So you're out to LA, you're still 14. So this is months after this Union Square moment. Months later, you book a sitcom, like pretty early on. Do we know the sitcom or was it just a pilot? Bill Engvall. It was called The Billingvall Show. It didn't do very well. I mean, it came out on TBS, and I got a steady paycheck for a while. And on the...

I mean, for like two years, two and a half years. And then I booked Winter's Bone on the hiatus of that show. And then the show got canceled, which was perfect timing. And just like the rain canceling our show. It was just like the rain. It's a blessing. But this first exposure to acting and stuff, it felt like an early fit.

This was something that you, it was comfortable. This is something I want to do the rest of my life. It was so comfortable that I found ways, I thought it had to be harder. So I remember like I would like read like an audition, like I would read sides. And I'd be like, well, this is how a normal person would say it. And then so I would change that and be like, so maybe I will say it like this. Right, right, right, right. Well, that's really interesting, though, because people do, they...

I don't know, I feel like some people that give performances will get nominations. And then other people that just kind of do naturalistic, just kind of disappear, let the story take over. don't really get as much attention as like the flashy sort of performance actor. You're so naturalistic, yet you are incredibly, well, what would you call? awarded, nominated, recognized. Recognized, thank you. I'm sick, you guys.

So that is... I love that. Do you think that maybe that's because you didn't go to acting school and learn how to act? You know? You know, my mom took me to some... guy that like the agency and don't worry it doesn't end like that but my mom took me to this guy that this agency told me to meet to like you know, help me like act or whatever. Right. And he told my mom, don't put her in any, you know, acting lessons. Don't, don't do that. That guy randomly is Taylor Sheridan. Ooh.

Isn't that weird? Wait, wait, what? Isn't that crazy? I guess he was like an acting teacher or something back in the day. That's crazy. Wait. I feel like he was an actor. I think his story is that he was an actor, right? And then started writing and wrote... Sicario. Sicario. That was kind of around for a while. Oh, Sicario. Yeah, it's great. And Denis found him. Remember he told that story? Yeah.

He kind of found it and was like, wait, this is the greatest script I've ever written. For Tracy, just so she knows, Taylor Sheridan created Yellowstone. I feel like Tracy doesn't need any help on that one. Well, she may. She may. She may, Sean. Also, so he was also teaching acting. That's amazing. I love that note. Don't take her to acting school. She'll learn how to act. And what a great piece of advice that was because you don't do that.

You're very easy to watch, Mrs. Wow. So Taylor Sheridan was the guy. So did you, have you guys ever talked about doing something? Was there any follow-up to that relationship or no? It was just that brief period and then you moved on. No, just that brief period. Wow. And you haven't run into him since? No, we met up about another project. But we didn't talk about it because I don't know if we even made the connection. Somebody made the connection for me when I was doing a Q&A.

a movie like two or three years ago. Oh, no way. So he might not even remember that connection. Oh, yeah. I know. I mean, why would he? I was just like a little kid. Right. Let's get him on the horn. Yeah. Okay. That's wild. All right, so the acting is comfortable. You're getting some good – you're getting good jobs. You get Winter's Bone and –

Winter's bone gets so low. Sean would give anything to have a winter's bone, would you? Yeah. He'd give anything. He'd give anything. Because your bear goes into hibernation during the winter, right, Sean? Yeah, exactly. We got it right there. It's not until spring. That little cub doesn't come back with a phone until spring. They're so proud of themselves. You want the winter's phone?

It's so fun. It's so fun. Now we're cooking with gas. Good bit, guys. So wait. So Jen, so now Winter's Bone comes out. Everybody loves. Jennifer Lawrence. Yes. Looks like we've got a career ahead of us. And now it's, we really don't need to do the school thing. That was already kind of decided, but now this solidified it, right?

Yeah, well then, by then, I mean, I still feel this way. I still feel overwhelmed. Like when I hear that somebody like graduated or something, I have envy of the like organization of even just like having the credits or like knowing how. I wouldn't even know where to get started. I think I would have to start from sixth grade or whatever. I don't have to do it. I get anxiety randomly that I'll have to do it. But you don't have any regrets about missing out on it.

I did. Now I don't. But I was really lonely. I didn't have any social life as a kid. I didn't have any friends, you know, as a teenager. Yeah. But did you ever have to go to school on set? Were you emancipated? No, that's why we did it, I think, because you have to pay. If you're not emancipated, then they have to pay for a tutor for you if you're underage.

And so our way of making me enticing, I think, was that we said I had a GED. So we didn't need the onset tutor. So I was an inexpensive minor. So my mom had my boyfriend at the time print out. Like a GED or a diploma or something on Microsoft Word. And it's not like a studio is going to be like, hey, let's check this out. So it was fake. Yeah, it was fake.

God, I love this family. This family is incredible. Yeah, you should see us at Christmas. We really rip. All right, but now, because I don't know. My mom, one time I brought like a British boyfriend home and they had... They had, in celebration of me coming home, roasted a pig on a spit. And my boyfriend was very fancy, and I don't think, like, wanted to eat it, but was being polite and was eating it. And my mom was like, when I saw that naked pig,

pig on the spit. I couldn't help myself. I leaned right in and gave it a kiss. And wouldn't you know it, two weeks later, I got ringworm. No way. Must meet your mom. Oh my gosh. But I don't have a high school diploma either, and I get very, very jealous of people that are in college that are listening to professors give lectures. But it's so funny because then I hear both you, Jay, and you, Jennifer, talk about that.

Sorry, Jen. And it's like... Okay, S-H. Yeah. That... I know, that's my initials. Shh. Shh. that, what was I going to say, that from your perspective, you were like, oh my God, I'm so jealous of people who went to college. But as a kid who wanted to act when I was really young, I was like envious of you guys. I was like, oh, that seems. But are you envious now?

Yeah, not really. Well, I like my experience quite a lot, yeah. You did? Yeah. I mean, you're a hilltopper for life, obviously. That's right. That's what the T-shirt says of his school. JB, I didn't realize that we had so much in common like this. I mean, what was your way to self-educate? Mine was watching Charlie Rosen and trying to read newspapers. Yeah, I watched a lot of the History Channel and Animal Planet.

I would go to the library, but I didn't have a library card. We just weren't organized. We didn't pay for things. So I would go, but then I would just read about like... Could you sneak in? Magic. The library. Read about magic? I'm going to get a degree in magic. I mean, left to my own devices. Jen, have you continued on the legacy of chaos?

in your own family moving forward? Do you keep a sort of a healthy dose of chaos? That's such a good question. I married somebody who is the opposite of me. He is so organized. He's an anchor. He's an anchor. Everything's ordered. Everything is ordered, like, on the sink. Like, I have to, you know, like, keep the closet doors closed. And I have, like, my little jobs.

that I work really hard to do. What's the thing you just can't fucking do, goddammit, and he gets after you all the time? Jen, what's the matter with you? Why can't you blank? Oh, I know, I know, I know. The schedule. So our kids, I mean, I get it now. I get it. But they're on a very strict schedule.

Breakfast, 7.30, like, I don't know. I don't know the rest of it. He does most of that. Well, he just keeps... He's good at keeping the time. He's good at keeping it, but we've learned to keep our marriage alive. I have a 15-minute wiggle room. Right. Otherwise, you can't be held to the precise times. Otherwise, the marriage is going to suffer. Yeah, because I can't. Yeah, I'm ADD, and I think I should go to occupational therapy for that. Is anybody here ADD?

I think I am, or I'm obsessive-compulsive a little bit. Or at least about being on time. I'm usually on time, but I'm never early. Because I feel like if I get someplace early, I'm wasting that amount of time because nothing's going to happen until it's supposed to happen. Oh, I don't know. I have to be on time or I get anxious. But what I do is I picture what is happening, like what the day is.

where it's going to be, where everything's happening. None of that is confirmed or real, but my imagination about it is so strong. Like yesterday, we were going to the circus. We were going to go to the circus at 11. I didn't buy tickets. And then the next thing I knew, I looked at my phone and I was like building a snowman with my son in the backyard and it was 1230. And the circus was at 11. Like stuff like that. Like it's pretty toxic. Because you didn't see on the schedule or because what?

I do follow the schedule. I am capable of doing that. But when I mess up, those are the mess ups. How about the iPhone? I used to be just in a sea of post-its before the iPhone. I couldn't remember anything. I was always like missing appointments. But now the iPhone with the little alarm situation, little calendar. It doesn't work for me. Watch this. Yeah. I tried it last night. Uh-oh. Siri.

Tell me I'm beautiful in one hour. I don't see I'm beautiful in your contacts. It just never does it. Oh, see? Yeah, I get it. And then it'll just, like, call my trainer. Because it wants to help you get beautiful. Yeah, it's very instinctual. What about a nice assistant? Let's get you a nice assistant or two.

I have the best. I love my assistants. But it's really hard what I put them through. It's not that bad. I mean, my God. I'm a mother. My kids get to school on time. Yeah, yeah. Now, okay, so everything's cruising along and it's feeling kind of normal. Winter's Bone happens. And that just like... Winter's Bone Happens. No, it wasn't exactly like that. I got nominated, but you know, it was like...

It was an indie and I still kind of felt like I was going to just be like an indie actress because I had starred in a couple other things that were like small and I had gotten like little awards for them. Like two other jobs. But you still have kind of an indie vibe, like in the best way. Thank you. I mean that as a compliment. Yeah, yeah, you do. I take it as a compliment. Thank you. You do. And so...

I was like, yeah, this is going to be, I'm right on track. I'm going to be like the indie lady. And then I auditioned for The Hunger Games. And then when I booked The Hunger Games, it was the same kind of season as like awards season. No, wait, that was Silver Linings. So I got famous just from booking Hunger Games. Oh, because the people who were fans of the book were like, oh, she's going to be. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, because I used to do the Santa Monica Stairs. And I remember being like, I don't think I can do the Santa Monica Stairs anymore. I'm too famous. So then were you reluctant to take that part? Because you thought it was going to be too... Yeah, Twilight had come out, and it was like, holy fucking shit. There were helicopter pictures of them just trying to live in a guest house. It just didn't seem like a nice life, and I had a good situation. I had enough money for what I...

you know, and I could do what I want. Like there was just, I didn't know if it was going to be worth it, you know, exciting, but maybe not ultimately worth it. And I did, I was always focused on. like my future being a mom. And so I was like, I picture myself being a soccer mom with a minivan and like, you know, and what if I'm, what if I can't do that? Because there's like, you know, I'm like. Kim Kardashian or something. But I thought about it and then I said yes and I don't regret it.

But wait, wait, wait. Before you said yes, take us through the sort of the deliberation process. Did you reach out? Was it like agents, parents, friends, or all of the above that helped you come to that decision? Or was it just you running up the Santa Monica stairs and figuring it out?

It was just me, you know, running up the Santa Monica stairs because there's not really anybody that can help you. Like, you know, mostly everybody's like, are you insane? You have to say yes to that. You're going to regret that for the rest of your life. And then taking time to think about, I knew that I'd be connected to that character forever.

Which isn't good or bad. It was just something to think about. And I ultimately, I'm so happy about that. I love that. I love that. I know. Isn't the new one about to come out? Like all these years later? Oh, my God. Yeah, isn't it funny, too? As an actor, you work towards becoming successful, and then you have exactly what you're talking about, the struggle of, well, I know this is going to be successful.

do I associate myself with that? But that's the thing where we want. Anybody wants to be successful in any job they do. I know. But our job is very closely connected with our lives. Right. I mean, I guess everybody's is. So you say yes to the thingy at the Hunger Games, and then you get the nomination. And then my saying... yes happened this like that

it was announced in the same season as award season for Silver Linings Playbook, which I was winning all of those awards leading up to that you win before you win the Big Daddy. And so I became... the most famous person in the world. And I was like, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was fast. And tell me, honest ratio between excitement and fear and panic.

Oh, God, I don't know. Because they blend. Right. It must have been exciting for a second. It was very exciting. It was so exciting. But I was also, like, working, really, like, the whole time. I didn't have, like, during that era, I didn't have, like... more than two weeks off in like five years. So when I was like going to the awards things, when I won, I was shooting Catching Fire. And I was like, I mean, even, yeah, I was like.

Flying in and out to go to a party and then landing at 4 in the morning and then going to set for the Hunger Games at 7 in the morning. So just, I don't think I ever got, like, by the time I finished the Hunger Games, I came back to the condo that I lived in when I was a teenager. because I just didn't live anywhere. It was probably a great distraction to... The craziness was a distraction to...

not absorb everything. Yeah. And I like lived with my best friend. So that was nice. That definitely stopped me from getting full of myself. But when the music kind of stopped, when you came back to the condo after all that time, did you feel like, oh my, did it feel like a...

such a big part of your life had just kind of gone by. You can't go to Starbucks anymore. And like all that stuff started to really kind of... Did it feel like a time warp? A time warp a little bit? Yeah, but you know what? It was like... I am a homebody, and I realized that I could use this to my advantage, and that was cool. I can just be like, oh, I can't come to your party. I'm too famous.

I can't leave the house. Like being pregnant, right? You can just say, oh, yeah, no, I got to go. I got to leave early. Like being pregnant? Well, yeah, my wife and I. Do you do that like when your wife is pregnant? Yeah. It's a great way to get out of a party early. Oh, yeah. Or you have the baby at home. Oh, yeah. Now with kids, you don't have to do anything. Sean still does it with his dog, Ricky.

Yeah. Sean does it all the time. He's like, we got to get back to Ricky. And we're like, it's 7 p.m. You've been gone two hours. Did she leave a bunch of food out? No, I mean. Do you not have kids? We don't have kids, no, but we have a dog. Not human kids. You have such calm dad energy. I know. You know what? It's because I didn't have one. That's another podcast, but yeah, because I didn't have one. So I think...

I have a fantasy of being a dad because of the way I wasn't fathered. But then we've had this conversation so many times about... You know, uh-oh. I've written like three jokes since you've been talking about just driving fast, about stick shift. Go ahead, keep going. Yeah, no, but I always said I...

neither me or Scotty, my husband, is 100% wanting kids. And I was like, if he was 100%, it was like, oh my God, I want them so bad. Then I'd be like, great, let's do it. But we're both like 85, you know, like, so it's not fair to them. kid yeah i do feel though that like well um during the nine months it takes to make a baby it helps that's a useful time for parents to kind of get their head around becoming parents um

So take that for what it's worth. Whenever anybody tells me I'm not sure, I'm like, don't do it. Because I feel it's so weird that people are like, oh, you don't have kids? You don't have kids? And then when you have a kid, you're like, what the fuck? Everybody should have been like... When I said it should have been one out of a thousand people that goes...

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And now, back to the show. But speaking of babies, now, Jen, now are you the soccer mom that you were dreaming about? Yeah. Are you tempted to like… I'm an ice hockey mom. No way. Yeah. I never saw that coming in Kentucky. I'm an ice hockey mom. Wait, the four-year-old is playing ice hockey? Yeah. Or is it dad? Yeah. The four-year-old. Yeah?

Yeah. That's a cool one. I mean, my husband played hockey growing up and he's, it's so hot when they play hockey together, like in the house. Like it truly, it really turns me on. Is he Canadian? No, well, almost Vermont. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah. We love hockey. Hockey's my sport. But what about that? Has that hockey gear started smelling yet on the four-year-old? Because the hockey gear is bad. No. He told me I had to brush my teeth yesterday.

Who, your husband or your kid? My four-year-old. He was like, you should brush your teeth, mommy. Yeah, they'll tell you straight. I used to have to bring my hockey equipment in the side and have to take it to the basement because it smelled so bad. The hockey bag is the worst. My mom would be like, I don't have that yet. I had to keep it in the boiler room at the house because it smelled so bad.

So, but Jen, don't you just want to... What do you do about that? Baking center? Nothing. Nothing. It just is what it is, eh? You go buy new stuff. Eh? Are you Canadian? I'm Canadian, yeah. Oh. Boy. I'm tempted to just like not ever work again and just be like home with kids and like, yeah.

I identify as a stay-at-home mom. Yeah. But I am, obviously. When he says home and kids, he means I'm the golf course. No, I've lost my passion for that lately. I don't know what's going on. I know, same here. You're just sick. You'll get it back. But I do love not doing anything.

Like right now, listener, we're in the holidays right now. This will air later. But the two weeks around Christmas and New Year's, I just love that there's nothing to do except just stay in your PJs, make a fire, and watch movies. Nothing's required. I'm not used to being busy like this. I normally have a busy three months while I'm filming. But even in that sense, it's calm because there is nothing else to do.

Right. I just go to work. I do that. I come home, I sleep, and then I do it again. Right. And then like two weeks while you promote it is hectic. But like something like this where I'm like doing the... Right, so right now you're doing some campaigning and it's busy. You've got to do a bunch of stuff like this. Do you like doing stuff like this? I like doing stuff like this. This is like a fun conversation with interesting people. Right, as opposed to doing anecdotes.

You know, like a Q&A that starts at 9, like 9 p.m.? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, after the spring. How do you stay awake? What time do you go to bed? I have half an eye open at 8.30.

Oh, I am in bed. Kindle is lit until like 9.15. And then I don't even have like Kindle light on normally by 9.15. So Kindle will put you to sleep? Yeah. The reading puts you to sleep? Yeah. Yeah, Will's a big reader. You know, that's true. The older you get, I went to a couple of parties that started at like 8 o'clock at night. I'm like, who starts a party at 8? Well, that one this weekend that I couldn't go to started at 8. What time did you get there?

I got there right at 8. Right at 8, so you could leave at 8.30? I was planning on going to a Christmas party tomorrow, but it starts at 9. Yeah, but that's rude. You know, all that means is that we're going to be drinking a lot. When you set your time start at nine, that means it's going to be a lot of booze. And you can't be hungover with a nine-month-old. No. Three-year-old is just not an option.

Wait, Jen, when you were imitating your mom, that was so funny, and she has that southern, you know, drawl or twang or whatever, did you have that and got rid of it or did you never have it? No, I had it and got rid of it. I listened to, like, CDs. Remember CDs? Come on, really? Did you really? I did, but my agency gave me CDs and I listened to them and I did them and repeated all of the things. But I think that probably just time.

Yeah, time in Los Angeles. Especially that young 14, 15, you just start sounding like you're surrounding. Yeah, I got rid of my Canadian accent the same way. When? Get out, Sean. How dare you? You just said A and I think a boat. A boat. What part of Canada? I've worked there, so I know all the provinces. Toronto. Oh, okay. Yeah. Cool. Big city guy.

Yeah, I'm a big city dude. That's kind of my cross to me. I'm more familiar with the Quebec region. Okay. Is that Montreal? Montreal is in Quebec, yeah. Montreal is in Quebec, yeah. Beautiful part of the world. Here's a question I know Sean's going to love. You joked that you once fangirled too hard on meeting Jack Nicholson. What is your most recent embarrassing celebrity encounter? I think I frightened Draco Malfoy. What's his name? Tom.

Tom Feldman. We were doing Fallon. You know how dark it is when you're... like behind the curtain or whatever. It's so dark on the late shows. And I had finished and was walking out. He was going to go on after me. And I just was like, and I was like, scared him. Really? Yeah. Because you're so fan, you fanned out.

I know it's wild when you run into people that stuck with you because of a film when you were growing up or whatever and you finally see them. Yeah. I know. And then it's just like you say that you love them so much. And then they're nice, and then it just stops. Yeah. The conversation just stops. I know. I just ran into Molly Ringwald like a year ago. I was like, oh, my God. I mean, Nathan Felder, he was at a party, and I tried to keep. I think I kept my cool, but.

Yeah. I had the same thing with him. And I said that he was like the best and I'm such a big fan. And he was like, oh my gosh, thank you. Yeah. End of conversation. Right. Yeah. Nathan Fielder and Larry David, they're intense because it's like, it's their brain that you are so, like, you like their personality and like their brain.

You know, not just like what they do. Like if they don't like me, then why would I like me? You want to get in there. We're billing by the hour. I want their approval.

All right, here's another spicy hot question. Hot ones. You confessed to eating weird snacks on set. What is your all-time strangest on-set food combo that you now secretly stand by? I have no idea what... That means a weird... I just eat what's at Crafty. Right? Exactly. My brothers used to think that my breakfasts were gross. I would have Campbell's chicken noodle soup and tuna salad. I get it.

Okay. Wow. Sean, hump the brakes. How did you do a hot one? That sounds delicious. Sean just stood up. I did a hot one just recently myself. How'd you do, Willie? Did you get all the way through it? If I'm being honest, I was reluctant to do it because I don't like eating. I don't like hot sauce. Yeah, me neither. And so I'm like, okay, here we go. And then they go, Bateman was just on and he made it all the way through. Yeah, but I was loaded up with like...

Oh, I had ice cream. Oh, I threw up. You did? Yeah. Wait, is it true that milk really helps that? Yes, milk helps. Really? It did help. But the third to last one, I forget, it was like, I forget what it was called, like the bomb or something like that. It was so ridiculous. And I was rubbing the ice cream on my lips because... I thought that my lips were going to come off. That sounds gross.

Sounds like a dream. No, it's like truly frightening when it hits. It's overwhelming. It was rough. Like, how am I going to handle this situation? When did you throw up? On the set there or when you got home? No, so the only thing that soothed the burning was... chugging ice water. So I think what happened was I drank so much ice water that I threw up.

This is the kind of torture we put ourselves through to sell our product. But actually, it was pretty fun. He's a super nice guy, Sean. He's a very good interviewer. Very good questions. By the way, the questions are really good in there.

really from out of left field. It made me laugh a couple times how out of left field. Yeah, they are from left field. And you're struggling with your mouth is on fire. And I love how like dry and robotic he is too. Yeah. It's like it's fucking serious business. Is he eating with you? Yes. He's a robot. He just doesn't react as much because he's used to it? Yeah, he's used to it. He's made of titanium.

It's insane. He actually kind of mirrors you. What I found, like he eats the same way that you do. He takes the same size bites that you do. And there's some, I guess there's comfort in that. It's almost like he's in it with you. Yeah. That poor guy, he said whenever he goes to restaurants, people send him chicken wings. And he obviously can't do chicken wings. Send him over here.

All right, what about this? If fame disappeared tomorrow, Jen, what is the first thing that you would go out and do that you can't do now because of getting recognized? Oh, I don't, that doesn't really apply. I just do, I do stuff. What about like, will you do like Disneyland? Yeah, but I'll do Disney. I'll do it. You just rush it. I can just rush it. What happens if a big crowd starts to gather around you and everybody wants a picture on their iPhones? Do you indulge?

No, it never happens. And, like, I would just leave. I think that bringing, like, a big security guard and, like, wearing a hat and all that stuff, that is... Attracts attention. But for the most part, I just get people looking at me sideways being like, she looks like that person. Yeah, you don't want to invite it. So I would just do that.

I remember hearing a guy told me once, this is not related. I can't believe I'm making this connection. But riding your bike in the city, don't wear a helmet because... Again, this is a terrible analogy, but I can't bail. I'm too deep. That when you wear a helmet, you say to the other drivers that you're part of the system, that you're just another vehicle. But if you don't have a helmet that you recognize as a human. So when I ride my bike in the city, I never wear a helmet.

That sounds like Thoreau again. You know who said it? Lorne Michaels, who's never been in a bike in the city in his life. But he once said that to me. Did he deliver it like it was a good joke, or did he deliver it serious as a hard attack? No, he said, wouldn't you put a helmet on?

You're telling the other vehicles that you're in the game. Because I was considering starting to wear a helmet. He said, don't do it. He advised me. So, like, if you don't have a helmet on, then they'll be more careful around you, right? That's right. That's right. Because they see that you're... a human being. I don't know why but I find it weird when Canadians are funny. Because there's so many of them that are funny. Well there's Jim Carrey.

There's Jim, there's Martin Short. Mike Meyer. Martin Short is, of course. Once you find out somebody's Canadian, you're like, of course. And I don't know what it is. John Candy? Marty Short might be one of those. John Candy's Canadian? Of course. John Candy definitely seems like he's from Chicago. Well, we know why. We were just talking about planes, trains, and automobiles. Canada has a deep bench, if I can tell you.

Deep bench? Of funny people, yeah. Oh, of funny people. That's a hockey analogy, like a bench. I guess I just, like, to me, there's no trauma in Canada. It's like you have free health care. Your taxes pay for public school. Everybody's so nice. Oh, we got so much trouble. I feel like humor is formed from suffering. Maybe you're cold. We just suck it up.

Before, wait, before we let her go, we've got, God damn it, we're in the last minute. We haven't even talked about the thing. Let's talk. I want to talk. Lynn Ramsey's one of my favorite directors ever. Can you please, okay, so Die My Love, right? Yes? Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's the film. It's incredible. Saw it. Love it. Can you tell us anything about what I'm assuming was a magical experience with Lynne Ramsey? Yeah, I mean, it really was.

It started like before we got on set, she just kind of started like talking about this world and then writing these scenes. And like, it wasn't necessarily like in chronological order, which was funky and cool. And then we got to Canada. It was Calgary, which was in... Wherever that was, it was beautiful. What's the Ottawa province? No, Alberta is... Alberta! Calgary. I'm here for all your Canadian questions. Yeah, thank you. You're welcome. So, yeah, and then it was just...

It was just really cool and great. She's just extremely instinctual. It's kind of exactly what you want to have when you're working with an auteur like that. You were incredible in that. Thank you. I can't wait to see it. The movie's so great. I can't wait to see it. It's just beautiful, too. I can't wait to see it before, Sean. I already saw it. Really? Do you have a top movie of all time for you or top two?

Oh, Sean. Well, now, I mean, one battle after another was my favorite movie I've ever seen. What about, wait, you're a reality TV fan. Do you watch any of those with your husband? He doesn't get near him? He got near Vanderpump for a while, but now I lost him. But yeah, I watch Southern Charm, Real Housewives of Salt Lake, and Real Housewives of Beverly Hills now.

What about Below Deck? Do we go Below Deck at all? You know, I can't watch Below Deck because I cannot understand the different franchises of them. It's too confusing. I don't ever know which one is current. Is it Below Deck, Below Deck Med?

Below Deck Australia. I don't know which one's happening now. You've got to be clear on those. There can't be confusion when you're in the Below Deck universe. Exactly. Do you ever watch Traitors? Like what happens if I confuse what region I'm in? I'm clearly passionate.

about Promises. Wait, Sean, what was that? You're describing chaos. You ever watch Traitors? Traitors. Oh, Traitors. Oh, wait, that's the one that was just in England, right? Yeah, it's so good. Where they play Mafia, basically, JB, they play Mafia. And they're doing that. Remember last year at New Year's how much we played Mafia every night? You were great at it. I had to run it every night because everybody else, and I couldn't even play. I had to run it every night.

It wouldn't have lasted without you. You were our beacon. Do you guys ever do bowls? Bowls? What is it? Salad bowls. What's that? Everybody writes down something that's familiar to everybody. Like everybody would get it. You know, like Spider-Man, Donald Trump.

cheese. Yeah. And then you put them, and then there's like stage one, which is, you can say every, you can say a full sentence just without that word. Yeah. And then the second, you can just say one word. And then the third is charades. Some people call it celebrity.

or what do they call it? It has a different name for everybody. Oh, that sounds very good. So the first round you do, yeah, you get one sentence to describe it, then you put them all back in the bowl, and the second round... And it's always the same. One word. So then you started getting these inside jokes with... Right.

You know, it's just like the same. It's very funny. Shawnee, you used to have great game nights. What happened? What's going on? It's too much. I love game nights. I see a lot of people do that. It's too much to host. Yeah, it's too much to organize. Let's get on down to Jamie and Nico's house and just fire up a big fat game night.

I'll fly in. Game nights always happen where people are like into it and then you start it and then people kind of fall out because they get bored. Yeah, that's the bummer. I'm going to start doing Mahjong with my girls on Thursday. I love Mahjong.

Really? I don't know how to play yet, but we're going to learn. It's just a matching game. Is that the one with the tiles? Yeah, you just match the tiles. That's it. Oh. Huh. Match the tiles? Those are the rules. Really? Yeah, that's all. It's all too much of a commitment. Yeah. It's not too much. All right.

Jennifer. Jen. JB. Thank you. Sean. Will. Next time you're out here. Will's shirt. Doing your things. Thank you. Let us know. And we'll play some Mahjong and some bowls. We'll do a game night at Sean's. We'll do some bowls. Sean's going to do some Pictionary. Sean, I'll help you organize and I'll come early and we can set up appetizers and stuff. Yeah, right? Cruditain bullshit. They're already out. The appetizers are already out. Pop-tarts just in a row.

Jen, thank you very, very much for doing that. Thank you. So nice to finally meet you. Jennifer Lawrence. This is lovely. Thank you for having me. All right. Have a great rest of the day. And have a great holiday. All right. Thank you. Bye. Bye, guys. Bye, bye, bye. Bye. Bye, JL. Bye. That's Jennifer Lawrence. That was supposed to be on the big stage at the Hollywood Bowl. I know. She got rained out.

We got to reschedule that. And then we just had her on here, which was great. I know. And when I found out, so it was like after it got canceled, I was like, oh, it was Jennifer Lawrence. I was so excited. And then, and here she is. Now, did you guys, you guys did not know it was her leading up to it? No, I had no idea. And I knew it was going to be Jeremy Allen White a week beforehand.

You did. Oh, right. Yeah, because his agent mentioned it at something I was at. Oh, right, right. But listen, not his fault. It happens all the time. Yeah, of course. But... Yeah, that would have been a fun night. I can't believe it took us so long to have her on. I know. She's one of those like, oh. I know. She's sort of like. She was on my list too. Yep. Yeah, she's fantastic. She has a lot of success quickly, but she handles it well.

Very well. She's done so many great things. She's been so good in so many things. She's been in a movie every year for the last 20 years. I was looking on her thing. Every single year a movie's been released. Is that right, eh? Yeah. And then, so Die My Love is out now. And then the Hunger Games, next Hunger Games thing, I think is coming out middle of next year. How about that? That's... You know it.

Go ahead, Sean. You know what? Die My Love's coming out. Thank God. I mean, it's a good title. Thank God it wasn't titled. Bye. Bye, my love. That's exactly what I was going to do. Smart. Smartless is 100% organic and artisanally handcrafted by Bennett Barbaco, Michael Grant Terry, and Rob Armjarf. Smartless.

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