One, welcome everybody to another smart money Circle update on Madam. Sorry, hang with me today is a very, very special guest. I am very excited for today's interview. It's Scotch. Marin who is the founder of the ultimate Visionary mind.com and he's a noro performance ologist. The whole point of this show. Smart money, circle is to find Timeless advice to help you grow and learn and Scott. I believe is one of those truly blessed Souls that has a brilliant mind.
And I'll let him speak for himself. Scott, welcome to the show. Thanks, so Scott. I was like to begin. Can you tell us your story? Which is remarkable and how you got to where you are today? Please sure. Well, you know, when I grew up as a kid, I always had this idea in my head or maybe even in my heart that I needed to help people make a difference in this world and you would have known me as a kid because I was the
fat kid in my neighborhood. And when I say fat, I was really heavy and people made fun of me. Kids tease me. Bully. Me, sometimes even the parents, they would say, Things and being sensitive it hurt. And what happened was, I started to withdraw from the world and my life became eating and watching TV, a lot of bad sitcoms from the 60s and the 70s. And it was really just this Perpetual horrible thing.
You know, I would withdraw for being teased and I would eat more and more and watch more TV than get heavier than BT's more, and it got worse, and worse, and worse. And so many things. Like I remember growing up as a kid and in junior high school, ever used to do the president's program on physical fitness. Don't even know if they still do it anymore. I've done that. Yeah, I remember and it was a week-long of all kinds of
things. Like push ups and sit ups and pull ups, none of them, I did really well, but the day I hated the most, there was one day that they wait us and in our gym class our gym teacher. Thought it was much more efficient to weigh us from the lightest to the heaviest kid, and it would be the same thing every year. The gym class and all the kids have already been weighed in and they're all on the one side of the gym. And I'm just standing there by myself.
And every year, I would wish for the same thing that some new kid would move into my neighborhood, who was bigger and heavier than me. So, they could be the heaviest in the last one, and it be the same thing every year to be nobody left in the gym, teacher would say, Okay, Marin and anybody else, and there won't be anybody else, and everybody
would just cheer and clap. Like it was a big honor to be the heaviest one in the class, and I put on this, This big fake smile and inside, I was dying and I had weigh-in and all kinds of things like a happened and growing up through life. Just how about getting on an airplane and not being able to fit in the seat and having to ask the flight attendant for a seatbelt extender. And if you don't know what that
is, that's the part they used. When they show you how the seatbelt works in the airplane, even though everybody knows how to do it already and there's nothing more embarrassing than have to ring the call button. And ask for it. And everybody looks and it's embarrassing and I remember being in my early 20s and being invited to a New Year's Eve party and I was excited to be invited to receive 50 people
there. And I remember, they just big spread of food and it made a big plate of food for myself, grab my diet coke, and I remember finding this rocking chair was perfectly situated. The room where I could sit down and just watch everything. And I sat down with my food and Diet Coke. And Also in the chair just broke not just broke it. Just I crushed it was like a scene out of a movie and food diet coke and this little short fat guy laying on the floor. And in that moment, everybody
froze. They turned around and looked. And they all started to laugh and I guess if I was watching it too, would be funny. But I never felt so horrible in my life. I just wish that was about this big and I can just go hide someplace. And again I put on that stupid grin on my face. And I gather as fast as I could. I spent the rest of my New Year's Eve that day in my apartment, that night with my
two best friends. At this time, a large sausage pizza from a local pizza place that I had a tablet because I ate there so much and a frozen cheesecake and that little voice inside of me, wanting to help people and make a difference in this world died. And it got to the point where I was so angry. And so frustrated, I don't know how many times I had lost weight, put it back on, I was frustrated and I finally gave up I couldn't stand it anymore.
The pain was too great and I lost my will and my desire to live so I took an entire bottle of sleeping pills an entire bottle of painkillers and I remember putting them in a little paper Dixie cup. Going into my bathroom and I put that Dixie cup on the bathroom counter. And I remember looking at myself in the mirror and not seeing anything, what was in a lot of pain. And I took all the pills, I took all the pills. And in that moment I felt two things.
One I felt this huge relief that my life was going to end and I was to be out of pain but I was also terrified. It didn't know what was going to happen. And I remember sitting in this chair in my living room, it was My almost like my security blanket. I would sit in that chair, I'd watch TV. I eat, I pontificate from that chair. I'd hide from the world in their chair. And at some point, I don't remember much after that, I passed out, and then something miraculous happened.
I don't know what, but I took enough medication probably to kill an elephant. I was at my worst, I'm not a giant. I'm 5 foot 6. At that point. I weighed 360 pounds. I had a 56 inch waist. I was almost as big around as I was Tall and I passed out in that chair. And I remember the following morning opening my eyes, I never went to a hospital and I remember seeing the light coming through my living room window, And I felt this tremendous sense
of peace. I thought I was dead for a moment to be honest with you and I open my eyes and then I realized that I was alive. And I see, no, but I must be here for a reason. And in that moment, I began to cry. And I felt this tremendous relief, but also something happened that I had never felt before I became responsible for myself.
I stop blaming everybody else for me, being heavy or not, loving me and accepting me or not being a successful as I wanted to be. I realized that I was the maker of my own mess. And I got out of that chair and I said to myself, I want to find out why, why are there two people inside of me? And I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this. The person inside of me. They wants to be happy healthy thin successful love.
And yet, every time I try to move in that direction, something else just pulled me right back. Like there was another person inside of me. Wow, so I began to read, I started studying how the mine work and I set my first goal and my first goal was just to be able to go out in public and not be noticed as the fat guy and the more I read, I realized that it was the subconscious mind that controlled everything, we try to change everything at a conscious level and that usually does not work.
And I started studying things like hypnosis The neuro linguistic programming and different types of meditation and creative visualization. And I started taking their commonalities. And I started forming this process which now I called the quartic formula for success and I began to change. And soon, I was at a normal size and weight and then I decided, you know, I want so much more. So I create a vision of how I wanted my life to be.
I mean, there's things I had never done because I wasn't physically able to or I was afraid to leave the small cage I created for myself and my home. And as I started changed, people started to notice. And I was a residential real estate broker that time is actually pretty successful and the little voice in my head came back and says, you know, you needed help people and make a difference in this world.
And I kind of shush that voice and it kept getting louder and started screaming at me. And I said, okay, this is what I need to be doing all my life. This is how I saw myself as helping people and make a difference in this world. So, I walked away from my real estate career and I started working with people and helping people and helping them change their lives, whether not just to lose weight, but yeah, people
want to be more successful. They want to make more money, there's obstacles and challenges. They want to come overcome stress, anxiety, Financial abundance. And this has been my path really for the last 15, 16 years. Absolutely remarkable stories. Got, thank you for sharing it. So how old were you when you were in that chair looking up and you have the aha, I was about 40 years old or over. Over 20 years ago. Okay. And my path is just evolved and changed. It's still changing and
evolving. Now it's funny. So the two voices in your head, have you read my book or not yet? I have not read your book yet. So my book, it's about psychological analysis. I have a very similar story, had overcome a lot of childhood stuff adversity and I was overweight as well. And I remember that presents a challenge and it sucked to put it nicely. But, you know, there's a good evil inside of us is smart. Dumb side of us are all that
stuff. So in the book it's the only finance book I know of that has cartoons in it. I put tunes and it to illustrate those two sides. So the guy in the big one is a superhero. The smart money super here. I call them and the other one is that dumb money Beast. It's almost like a Tasmanian devil inside of us causing us to run around. Make emotional decisions, not logical ones. And the sobriety superhero is this designed to help us make
logical. Rational, emotional decisions not you know sorry not emotional decisions. Rational decisions May overcome the Beast. Yeah, so that's kind of the premise of my life's journey even though it's the first time we meet and speak. Her, you know, and decent amount of time. I'm really fascinated with what you've learned and almost like what we've learned in parallel universes together. So, all right, let's, let's jump in.
If we can. Yeah, well, you said some, so there's like these two piece inside of us and I think what people don't realize, you know, we are products of the environment that we grew up in whether it's just environment trauma. And what happens is, I find there's a commonly work with lots of people for lots of things and a lot of it stems down to worthiness and a Lot of people don't see themselves worthy whether it's making more
money or being successful. Like I work with a lot of small business and sales people and a lot of them come to me with two different issues but they're really the same issue. I'll go to sales person that they get to a certain income level and they can't get over it right there.
Stuck or they have huge success. Make a lot of money and then they crash and burn and then they do this, they're up and they're down, then it when it gets too low, then they kick back in their gear and it all comes back. To worthiness. They don't really think they're worthy of what they want and desire because it's been programmed into their head and we know that our subconscious mind doesn't distinguish real not real good or bad, right or
wrong. So if the picture is, this is how you've always been the moment, you try to change it, you're going to get resistance. You know some reason was 97 percent of people that lose weight, put it back on. Why the picture up here says that you're supposed to be heavy if you've been heavy all your life. So now you go against that picture. And your mind goes, wait a minute. What are you doing? You've been heavy, all your life and you're alive. So being heavy must be a good
thing. And yes, it is that simple. It's how it thinks. So now you're going to lose weight and you're getting thinner. We don't know about that. That could be dangerous. It could even kill you. So we're going to try and convince you not to do it or find when something comes up out of the ordinary out of your life. We're going to use that as a rationalization. Why you can't do this anymore? And I see that with almost everybody it. They're limiting values and beliefs. Usually you're not.
There is they just they've been adopted through their environment, they live in a grew up in. Wow, I have a whole chapter in the book dedicated to call. I call a mental walls when you do something and hit a wall and I love that. So okay, let's talk about the Breakthrough, Scott biggest. A lot of what you do came. When you realize that you're in control, you took power, you change the identity yet that identity, let's talk about that. How do you break down those mental walls?
How do you break through? How do you change the identity? What is the quadratic formula now? How does that work? Well, okay. Well, the first simple thing is, you got to be aware of the things that you're doing, you know, if you're not aware of what you're doing, it's kind of hard to change what you're not aware of, is becoming conscious of what you do. So the quartic format, is this process that I was using that, I
didn't know that I was using. I started with me and it's like a walk myself through this process and I started going back with all the people I was working with in realizing that I was following a formula to didn't realize I was for there was using the formula is the same. It would work. It was applied differently to each person because everybody's different. So the quadratic formula really revolves around for things. I call them the four hours. They are relax release
reprogram. Reinforced, so the first one, relax in a deep relaxed hypnotic meditative State, you relieve a lot of stress and anxiety. And you are also in a Peak Performance date much the same way in a fleet is performing in the zone. So you have Much greater access to your resources, your skills, your creativity, your imagination, your memory and better control of your emotions feelings and habits. And then you can learn how to access that state, which is what I teach.
So you can access that state even when you're fully awake any time you choose like in your business, making better decisions. Better problem. Solving skills controlling your impulses eating spending making emotional decisions in regards to finances and then Um, there we move in The Next Step which is release. We already touched on that all junk garbage and crap from your past, stuck in your head. There - filters.
They keep you from moving forward, or you move forward and they just suck you right back to where you were before, and we gotta get rid of this stuff. And then once you unload that stuff, you just free up all the space in your mind to plant the seeds of what you want. And then we move into reprogramming and like I mentioned before your subconscious mind season pictures, It doesn't distinguish real not real and it doesn't distinguish time.
So if you give it a picture of what you want, and how you want to be with purpose, passion and conviction, as if it's happening right now, it'll accept that as being true and start driving towards that picture. So one of the things we do in this in the program, I work with people that have them Creative Vision of how they want their life to be in every aspect of her life and then burn it into the subconscious mind with
hypnosis and Some other tools. So like for me my first Vision was I wanted the 175 pounds or less and have a strong healthy lean attractive body that I maintain for the rest of my life. And I made it very real in my mind using tools like hypnosis and it became my reality mindset. Okay. Well, gee, what is a man 175 pounds? Do how does he eat? How does he dress, how does he carry himself? How does he think?
And I started adopting those behaviors and what happened was now you're not attached to the short-term outcomes. Like well, This didn't work today so it must not be working. I became really committed to the process saying. Okay if I do this this is going to go forever and then one day I'm wake up I'm under 175 pounds and nothing has to change because I'm inside that way by the way.
That's true for everything if you look at like the big business models, you can take the mosques in the the jobs and you can go all the way back in history to Alexander, Graham Bell, and all these other people.
They didn't become successful. And think that way they had a A Clear Vision of what they wanted and how they wanted to be focused all their energy on it. Maybe you want to say became obsessed with it and then it was a matter of the physical world catching up with their internal world, right? Just, that's just the way it is. We see it all the time. You see any great athlete, they had a vision of what they wanted to accomplish how they wanted to be.
If you read any biography on any world leaders business, people clear picture in their head of what they wanted and then just focus their attention on him. The book, Think and Grow Rich. Yeah, the quintessential book on success. All-time best-selling book Napoleon Hill in his complete work of all success. Talked about how these Highly Successful. People every night as they were going to sleep, they Envision the vision of what they wanted to accomplish, and then fell asleep on it.
So, what were they doing? They were drifting off into sleep, which means they're going down into Alpha and down Theta, which is a hypnotic State giving this message to their subconscious. - mind and then letting their subconscious mind play with it all night long. It's very powerful.
It's how it works and equality. No, talk about focusing your attention on your, what do you call your, girl, your chief aim, or your definite, major purpose in life, turning it over to your subconscious mind and then turning it over to the infinite intelligence of the universe. However you wanted to find it for yourself. And then the last are this equation is reinforced. You know if you go to the gym workout getting really good shape, what do you do?
You're going Keep going and the same thing holds true for your subconscious mind. So, is creating these new routines. We are creatures of habit and routine. So, if you create this new routine and then reinforce it over and over it becomes your norm, and then you start moving down this path. It's really pretty simple and it's really pretty easy. It's unfortunate that in our world, no one gives us a handbook on how to use our our mind which would be much easier.
So I absolutely love it. So actually I'm going to process starting a foundation To do just that. And it's one of my passions in life is it's instead of Reinventing the wheel. So, okay, this is actually brilliant Scott. So you did that to yourself when you had that shift in your mindset from 40 after. So you did it, you just stumbled upon it or did you said you
studied NLP and hypnosis? Well, I started reading books and I noticed commonalities which everything to do with the subconscious mind and then I spent hundreds Mount probably thousands of hours in classrooms learning. Um, people I had some really incredible Masters. I spent over 100 hours in a classroom with a teacher learning hypnosis. I was able to study NLP with one of the creators of enthalpy, which is Richard bandler.
And I've studied a lot of things from the Silva method to all kinds of things and I still like to learn new things. You never know what you're going to pick up your and they're so helpful and it helps you push your mind and keep pushing your mind and Direction you want to go. Love it. So let's let's go little bit with a success mindset. I know you're very success, driven. You've obviously turned your life around and hats off to you a standing ovation.
What I mean from the bottom of my heart, what is the success mindset? The blueprint that you'd like to share with the audience? Well, a couple things, you know, success is about making small adjustments and changes and just doing them over and over. And I think the reason most people fail Achieving success. However you wanted to find success is they create an expectation in their mind and don't get me wrong, an expectation is a double-edged sword. So having the expectation of
succeeding is a wonderful thing. Then what happens is we create an expectation of how that path is supposed to go and how long it's supposed to take and that is even okay, unless we become married to that expectation and then what happens is that expectations really not based on anything especially if never Had that type of success whether to losing weight, making more money, whatever it is. So your expectations, really not based on anything, it just based on your opinion.
Now, you start driving down that path now. Working, you're not getting there or it's not happening happening as quickly as it can. So, what happens? They quit it. Quit it didn't meet the expectations. They think what they're doing doesn't work, or they're not good enough. When the reality is, if they just kept going, they would be fine. I see it all the time. People go to a seminar and they're expecting this big giant. Aha. That's going to transform their life in a split second and it
doesn't happen. Success small incremental changes done. Consistently over and over and over create success and people don't really think that way and they see little tiny changes. And they Don't think it's enough again because their expectations wrong. So I would say the greatest thing you can do to be successful. Anything you do is to embrace
your three best friends. And if you can Embrace these three best friends, you'll have lifelong success in every of your life and those three best friends are patience persistence Faith. So, patience patience is knowing that however long they had journey is you're going to stay on it. And it's not going to be what you think it's going to be. It's just keep plugging away and getting there and doing it. No matter how long it takes that, you're in it for the Long Haul.
Persistence. We have this idea that we're going to go from point A to point B, in a straight line, right? I don't know anybody yet that I've met, that that happens. There are going to be curves bumps. If you live in a place that has winter like I do in Chicago potholes in that road to getting there, they're all things you need to learn to get there. And what happens for many people talk about resistance in the mind for change, they started the journey things start to go.
Well, then something happens and instantly - oh my God, see this doesn't work and then he turned around, they run tailback where they were before. So persistence is knowing that whatever is going to happen is going to happen and you're just going to keep plugging away to get knocked down, you get back up. Persistence, you just keep going and faith. If you knew how to get from point A to point B, you would be there already but you don't.
So you take action and you move in that direction in. Faith is knowing that, you don't know, you need to know but you have the faith. It every step you take is an open up a new doorway or shows you something new and different that's and help you get to there. And so faith is knowing, you just can take action and you're just going to keep going. So if you can Embrace those three things there. It's really a very simple formula for Success. Yeah.
No. I've noticed most things in life are simple but not easy, like, well, I yeah, you got it calories in versus calories out but most people. Right? Okay, so it is simple but most people just don't want to do it. They want it now and we look, let's face it. We live in a world now where everything is instant. You know why I grew up as a kid if you ordered something by email. If you got it in 30 days, you were thrilled. Now, it's not on there on day two.
We want to know why it's taking so long. Yeah, so okay, I absolutely love that. So let's talk about Horse correction. So I was going to ask you about the three best friends I listened to your Ted Talk. I love that. Thank you for bringing that up. That was my next question. So, when you patience persistence and then Faith, what if you're doing something? Quote-unquote wrong? And its leading you in the wrong direction, but you keep doing it
expecting it to change. How do you square that where you're just as well? Well, you can't be married to the actions. You take. Okay. So you take an action How did it work? Is it working? Good. Keep going in that direction. If it's not working, you make adjustments, you know? It's not enough just to think about what you want, you have to take action. Does it have to be the right action? No, because the moment you take action, you get a result. Maybe it's the right result or a
result. Its leading you down the path to where you want to go or the feedback is. We're not, it's not working. So you make an adjustment, you don't quit. It's adjust Keep going, just keep going the analogy. I use is if I handed you a pistol and I say, I want you to shoot the Bull's Eye on the
target. What'll happen is most people will aim and they'll aim and they'll aim and I'll never shoot the gun because they're trying to hit the bullseye on the first shot and they're probably not going to and they want to take the perfect shot. You can't a highly successful person. Will aim the gun fire? See where the bullet goes? A just shoot. A just shoot until they hit the bullseye and that's really It's about is action. Adjust action, adjust.
It's not difficult. But again, we want to take Perfect action and you can't do that. You just take action. If action is movement and movement creates a results and results create success. Absolutely, love it. So Brilliance almost like over analysis leads to paralysis where there just to try and over and over all the time. Yeah. All the time. Wow. Okay. Let's talk about hypnosis please. Can you give us an overview on how it? Well, you know there's a lot of
whoo. The people think about hypnosis and the reality is it's a natural state of mind that we are in and out of all day. Long Neuroscience have told us that about 85 to 90% of what we do during the day are done at a subconscious level. So people say why I'm not hypnotizable. I've never been hypnotized. Will you are you give some examples in your daily life? How many people drive to work to the office or home from work every day and half the time? They don't remember driving
there. They didn't hit anything and they didn't destroy their car. They were in a hypnotic state or you go to a movie theater and you watch a movie to three hour long movie. Now consciously, you know, the movies, not real. You are emotionally invested in the characters and everything is real. You feel their emotions, anger sadness joy. And then when the movies over that three hours seemed like 10 minutes, time Distortion hypnosis.
So we do very little at a conscious level and that's why when people try to make change either, Doesn't work at all or lasts for a very short period of time because inside their core values and beliefs haven't been changed. And so hypnosis is a tool of being able to go into your subconscious mind, taking conscious control of it and changing it. And your subconscious mind controls more than your thoughts. Your core values and beliefs, it controls every function and
aspect of your body. The blood coursing through your veins and arteries. The breath you're taking your heart beating it controls all those things. So it's pretty pretty simple. And it's just about relaxing your mind and going to that state of mind and then telling your mind what you want. It's really that simple. Wow. So what you're saying is an example driving to work and stopping at a red light and not killing anybody. You're not consciously doing
that. That's your subconscious even though your spaced out think of something else. So, anytime your spaced out, I guess that would mean that you're in that hypnotic State. It's somewhat a dreaming is a hypnotic State. I mean here, how many times do you have a bad dream? And I have a really bad Nightmare and you wake up your hearts going, 100 miles an hour. You're in a cold sweat in the first thing says, oh my God, thank God. It wasn't real.
Okay. But your research, your body's response to the picture in your head was real because it didn't distinguish. What was physically real? Or it was just an internal picture. It's your subconscious mind and that's really what a state of hypnosis is. If I Define it, it's really simple. It's a mono focused State of Mind here. Imagine this right now, as we're speaking. We are taking in millions upon
millions of bits of information. Every second through our five senses yet, we can only process, I'll be really generous maybe a thousand a minute, so millions and millions and millions of second, maybe 1,000 a minute. So what happens is your mind? Deletes almost all of it most of its worthless but you keep what's valuable to you based on your values and beliefs and then we spin them, rationalize them and then spit it back out into
the world. So, So now when you go into a relaxed state of hypnosis, you begin to change, how you see things and you engage, what's called your reticular activating system, that's what neuroscientists call your radar. So, all day long in the background, you put a new picture in your head of what you want to achieve.
And your subconscious mind is running in the background, looking for things that can help you achieve that and then would it notices something, bam, and instantly brings it to your conscious Minds attention. So, like here's a perfect example, this you buy a brand new car As can say, punch body regulars. Like, and as you're driving home, you notice all these brilliant people that bought the same car. You want a different color, but man, you start noticing your car.
Everywhere you go. That's your reticular activating system. The reality is, those cars have been there all along, they're there every day, but now they're part of your awareness and so engaging your subconscious mind and what you wanted to do as a tool through, hypnosis allows you to change the pictures in your head and start driving towards those pictures because really your subconscious Minds
Whole goal, good or bad. It doesn't really care is to take the strong pictures in your mind, and try and move them into the physical world, that simple. Okay, beautiful. So, that was my next question is, how do you control that subconscious mind? Is it by doing what you mentioned earlier, sleeping at night and then planting the image of what you want. That's a simple way to do it.
Yes. Is you know at night as you're going to bed is focus your attention on what you want, allow yourself to fall asleep to it and you're giving your mind a very powerful For message, your subconscious mind is up 24 hours a day. It doesn't sleep. That's what causes your dreams. It's your awareness like, especially to see with moms. They can be sound asleep and they instantly know there's something wrong with your child, was not crying and they wake up and they know.
And so it's running all the time. So if you're giving out, you might as well just give it something to do, is opposed to letting it run willy-nilly and doing anything it wants to do, give it some Direction. Let it let it focus on what you really want. I love that instead of focusing on what you don't want. Which is what most people do, all day every day. I walk around. I don't want this. I don't want that guy. Okay, got it makes perfect
sense. Okay, let's speak about pain because that's obviously a big topic for humans. How do you heal from pain or what are some tactics are
techniques. You recommend about physical pain, Our Guest, emotional pain, emotionally and I guess more emotional, but physical, I'm assuming you go to the doctor who takes care of you, if you break your wrist, you put a cast on, you'll get better, but I was more along, emotional subconscious pain, mental pain, spiritual pain, things of that nature, most of our pain, It's from things that happen to us from the past their childhood traumas or here.
Here's a perfect example, PTSD is a hypnotic State, your re-experiencing. Something that had already had happened in the past your re-experiencing of it's happening now and it's real in your body's producing those same physical symptoms. Yeah, the second are in the quadric form is releasing is going in and releasing those
things. And I believe that a person doesn't have to re experience negative emotions, feelings, pain, or even Trauma to get rid of that old stuff, and I've worked with hundreds and hundreds of people. And I pretty much know that to be true is it's not it's not difficult to unload. We've been carrying around and the reason we carry those things around is their coping
mechanisms right? Maybe at some point in the past special is a child when your ability to handle and deal with the reality of the world is not very good because you don't have any experience you did something. Like you ate too much or same thing for a drug addict. They got that really amazing high and they felt incredible and all their problems went away and now their mind wants to re-experience it again. So, it starts reinforcing that
behavior. Assuming that it's good, even though it's not good, trying to recapture that feeling or is away is a coping mechanism to deal with what you really don't want to deal with. Interesting. So would you say that you said it's, you can release that pain and what are some ways that people can release the pain? Well, you know, here. I'll give you a simple technique. Okay, is your mind like stories
are? I would say metaphors and this is actually I came from Abraham, Lincoln to a certain extent, you know, Abraham Lincoln is one of my big heroes and was after the Civil War and a newspaper reporter was asking them how he stayed. So calm, Calm and collected and even-tempered. And he busted out laughing
because I'm not that way at all. But what he would do is when he was really angry with somebody, or upset or something really, really - he would write out the most poisonous venomous letter, he possibly could to that person or regarding the situation, And then he destroyed it. Wow, that's it. You would never male, never give it.
And so, what's happening in that process, they act, it's a very powerful metaphor, the act of writing things out, getting it out of here, writing it out, handwriting it out on a piece of paper, takes it out of your body, and then you need to destroy it. So, what a lot of times I have my clients do is write out the things, they don't like the things they're angry at and write it out, make it as mean and horrible as you have to. And then after you write it,
you'll feel better. Her. But then the next step would be to destroy burn. One of the most powerful metaphors for destruction, in your mind is to burn it. So either on your grill or in a fire pit in a fireplace someplace, safe is take that piece of paper. You wrote with all this poisonous stuff on it, Fold It Up, start a fire. And before you throw in the fire, make some kind of ritual saying. Hey as I throw all this old - stuff on my life in the fire, it is burned up and it is gone from
my life forever. However you want to phrase it It's a really powerful metaphor for getting rid of things. I've done this in some of the workshops I've taught for companies is we'll have everybody on one of the days, right out all their crap, and then we'll go out in the back. Take a grill or a fire pit, and then we'll burn them. And it's really, it's a very powerful metaphor. And it's something you can do over and over again, and it's
very helpful. It's a very helpful is very simple thing that really anybody can do. And that is so powerful. Now, do you do any work with the inner child or healing? The inner child is a diversified That's where. Yeah. I mean, you know, one of the great things about hypnosis is time doesn't exist, okay? So I'll give you an example. I years ago, I work with this guy. I was in New York. I come to see me first thing.
He does he sits down in my roommate, and he's got bad stomach cramps, he has to go to the bathroom. And the reason he's coming to see me is every time you meet somebody new or he has to do something different because he's horrible. Horrible stomach, cramps and has to go to the bathroom and in our conversation, I noticed there was a block of time missing from his childhood, which is usually
a Sign of trauma. It's children have a very very limited skills and resources to deal with bad things especially when they're being dominated by somebody bigger like an adult. So the body's last defense for survival is to shut down and block it out from your conscious mind because it's too overwhelming to deal with but yet it's through affects you. So in our first hypnotic session, we went back to his
child. He has a brother and his father was extremely abusive, his father would hit his mother with with a fist. And every time and here's where came from every time him and his brother made a mistake he would punch them in the stomach as hard as he could. So now we know where the stomach cramps come from, right. So what we did is we went down the timeline of his life and again, past present future all coexist. In hypnotic State, go down the timeline of his life.
Goes down to a time. When he remembers his father hitting him really hard in the stomach, and it made that Lasting Impression. Ten years old and right before his father, is getting ready to hit him. We freeze the picture. Now, he steps into the picture as an adult grabs. His father's hand and stops him from doing it, and then Embraces his 10 year old self, as an old
saying. Hey, this is not your fault, look at me. You're going to be fine, you're going to be a great, father, you're going to have children and he, and it's a really powerful moment, somebody can brace themselves as an adult as a child. And what happens is now, the entire timeline of their life changes from that moment on it moves forward in time to the present and it goes away. It's really a powerful thing.
It sounds kind of strange, but it really can be a very powerful thing almost like Back to the Future when Marty and the chalkboard with you, all the nice very good analogy. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Okay, I love that. That is so, so powerful. All right, we spoke about your best friend's. We spoke about hypnosis. We spoke about pain. Let's talk about pleasure. So the pain and pleasure the human mind you familiar with
that the yeah, okay. So what are some ways that pleasure can be good and pleasure can be bad? Well, I mean, you see that with drug addicts and alcoholics especially a drug addict, you know, they got this ultimate high, the first time, they tried whatever drug they were doing and now their minds trying to chase it and it doesn't work, you know, our mind either drives towards Pleasure, or away from Pain. And one of the reasons that people fail is, they always talk about what they don't want.
I don't like they, you know, one of the exercises that have people make a list of things they want to accomplish. And many times, I get, well, I don't want to feel this, I don't want to do that. I go. No, because what you're really telling your mind is, that's what you are, and that's what you have. And that's what your mind focuses on. You want to drive towards what you want, not away from what you don't want, and there's like a fine line in there.
Income tax is the perfect thing, maybe less. So now is you know used to see people lining up on April 15th at the post office to get that tax return in by midnight. Why they wait to the last minute because they start thinking about their taxes in January and that's a painful thing. So they're mine wants to move away from pain. Then at some point that switch flips over saying, wait a
minute, it's getting close. We got to get this done now becomes more painful not to do it, which is usually the day or two before it's due and then it A mad rush to get it done. So we have to be careful what we drive towards. You know, people talk about the law of attraction and people say, well, it really doesn't work, but it works perfectly because there's two parts to it. People say, well, I asked for what I wanted, and I didn't get it, but you want to allow it to
happen. So people say, I want to make a million dollars. Great. But then, the next one is. How many pay my car payment this month. I oh my God. I don't have the money for my rent, so what? They're not focused on the million dollars to focus on what they don't have. And their mind focuses on that and they get more of what they don't have. You know? We we are only aware of a small percentage of what goes on around us.
Okay. So like let's say 10 people witnessed a car accident if I interview all ten people I get ten similar stories right? A little bit different because everybody's perspective is different. So if you're always focused on the negative things in your life, that's what your mind is looking for to support this. Not the things you want. In fact, it kind of just passes Over those things that you want because it doesn't really see them, it's only focused on your negative stuff.
Yeah, I'd love that. That is so so powerful. So okay, let's talk about some Timeless lessons. You've learned along the way in life, that you'd like to share with the audience Timeless lessons. Well, one is things always have it tends to take longer than you think they do, which we kind of touched on that. I think the most important thing is It goes back to persistence. You try something and it doesn't work. You just keep going at it again and again and again until you
get what you want that. I mean that's that's the formula for everything. But I've also learned that my opinions are only my opinions. So when I work with a client, what they're expressing to me is coming from them and that doesn't mean because I don't agree with them that I'm right. And I've learned that to accept people for how they are.
Now, how we think they should because a lot of the anc's we create for ourselves is somebody does something we don't like and we get mad because we were expecting them to react the way we would react, right? So we are the makers of our own angst when we accept people for who they are, then it becomes easy. They have no expectations of what you're expecting them to do and I think a lot of people struggle with that. They, you know, all. How could somebody do that to me?
I would never do that and maybe you never. Everwood, but they're not. You who is it? Almost either Buddha. Or Confucius. Said that holding on to anger, and resentment is like drinking poison. And expecting the other person to die is what we do is we get really angry at somebody. We hold onto the nagar and their frustration and they don't even know, you're angry with them. Nor would they care if you were? And what are you doing? You're robbing yourself of your
happiness and your joy. Yeah, and I love that. That is so, so powerful. What are some Timeless mistakes? I've learned and how to avoid them. That people make hi was mistakes. I would think the hardest thing I had to learn and it took me the first 40 years of my life is we kind of touched on her is worthiness and I'll many times people tie their worthiness to something external, especially the where we live in now.
Social media, right? You know, post a picture people like it. You feel good. If not enough people like you feel okay? What am I doing wrong? Yeah, most people tie their warnings to something external, once I do this.
This, I'll be happy. Once I do this, I can make my hair when I was Heavy. I'd say you know, once I lose 100 pounds people will love me and like me once I was under pounds, people will accept me once I lose 100 pounds people, I'll be more successful and what happens is it's all baloney yeah. Okay, the reality is really asking. People listen, if you can internalize what I'm going to say right now, you become really powerful is, you are worthy of every single thing you want and
desire in life. For only one reason you're alive. The fact you open your eyes every day and you are breathing makes you worthy of everything you wanted desire. No asterisk after that. And when you can internalize that concept, you become really powerful because you don't care what people think anymore. You can live your life authentically and it took me a long time to realize that that I don't need anybody else to
validate myself. And I think some people may say that sounds selfish or narcissistic, but it's not. You you have what you need inside of You and your worthy of it you want you just have to want and desire it and not worry. What's happening outside of you? Wow that is so incredibly profound and Powerful. That is its next level like wow, okay, everybody rewind that and listen to it again and again and take notes and write it down. That's really, really, really fantastic.
So what's the best piece of advice? You'd like to give to your former self or to the audience if I had to go back in time to my younger self I would say, you know what? You're going to be fine. Everything's gonna work out, fine. You're worthy of what you want, and the things that are happening around. You have nothing to do with you. How people treat you and respond to you. Has to do with them, not with you. Yes, so powerful. Well, Scott. Thank you so much. You've been on Oprah?
You've got to Howard Stern. Now, you've been on the smart money Circle, so I'm very, very happy and blessed. And thank you very much. This was great. I really appreciate having me out. There was a great conversation. Well, thank you so much. I'm a I thoroughly enjoyed it. Hopefully, we'll have Have you back again? What is the best way for people to get in touch with you? You can reach me at my website, which is www.hyken.com, we alternate the Visionary
mind.com. Hey, you know, if you want to reach me by phone, people get a hold of me. It's 847 331, 5848, I love it. Thank you so much, Scott, and hopefully we'll speak again soon. Thanks for having me.