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Small Spark Theory: a marginal gains approach to new business and marketing

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EP98: A Client Perspective | John Gleason | A Better View

Against a backdrop of news disproportionately full of business headlines, this month felt like the perfect opportunity to bring a client perspective to this podcast. And who better to guide us through todays challenging landscape than John Gleason. Having worked at Proctor and Gamble for 20 years before setting up his strategic consultancy, A Better […]

Apr 28, 202550 min

EP97: Why independent agencies matter | Amar Chohan | DCA

One of the most exciting developments I’ve spotted so far in 2025 has to be the launch of the Department of Creative Affairs (DCA). So, I was delighted that DCA’s founder, Amar Chohan, was able to join me for a chat here on Small Spark Theory. In this episode, Amar shares his career journey—from aspiring […]

Mar 12, 202546 min

EP96: What to measure and why | Lucy Mann

Can you believe we’re already in February? In this episode, we’re diving deep into one of the most crucial (yet often overlooked) aspects of agency sales and marketing—measurement. If you’ve ever struggled with tracking the success of your marketing efforts or found yourself making gut-based decisions about new business opportunities, this episode is for you. […]

Feb 20, 202528 min

EP95: Thriving as an agency in 2025 | Jim Hawker

Kicking off our 2025 line-up, we catch up with previous guest Jim Hawker. Since discussing client development with us back in 2019 (see EP28), Jim has gone on to sell Threepipe, the agency he co-founded 20 years earlier. He finally exited the agency last year to focus on a variety of new ventures as a fractional […]

Jan 17, 202529 min

EP94: Empowering your people to drive growth | Zoe Tuffs | Times Ten

As we wrap up 2024 with this final episode, I’ve been reflecting on the many conversations I’ve had with agencies throughout the year, as well as the recurring themes shared by our amazing podcast guests. It’s been a challenging year for many, which makes this the perfect moment to focus on an invaluable asset every […]

Dec 09, 202434 min

EP93: Managing sales and marketing as you scale | Alisha Lyndon | Momentum ITSMA

As we discussed in episode 92 with Stephen Kenwright, a solid sales and marketing strategy is crucial for agency growth. However, realising that growth brings its own set of challenges. Having experienced rapid growth through acquisition while leading agency sales and marketing, I’m well aware of the pitfalls of maintaining brand consistency while keeping momentum […]

Oct 09, 2024

EP92: How to Scale Fast | Stephen Kenwright

The thing with marginal gains is that it feels small. And we could be forgiven for thinking that applying this approach to agency growth is simply about tinkering around the edges, making small improvements and seeing small incremental results. I know it has a far bigger sales and marketing role to play, but wanted to […]

Sep 09, 202445 min

EP91: An agency M&A update | David Blois | M&A Advisory

It’s been 6 years since Tony Walford from Green Square joined me on Small Spark Theory to discuss the practicalities of selling an agency. To say a lot has happened since then would be an understatement. Aside from the obvious economic rollercoaster and acceleration in technology, we’ve seen a seismic change to the way many […]

Aug 05, 202432 min

EP90: Unlocking the power of agency newsletters | Jamie Woodbridge | The Inbox Club

Of all of the marketing tools available to agencies, I’d wager that one of the most effective, yet most overlooked, is the humble email newsletter. Which of course, makes it the perfect candidate for marginal gains and the perfect topic for this podcast. And this month, I have the perfect guest in the shape of […]

Jul 08, 202441 min

EP89: Agency lessons from an ultra-runner | Clair Heaviside | Serotonin

Small Spark Theory has always been about a mindset. When I started this podcast back in 2017 I wanted to harness the marginal gains thinking that was and still is, so prevalent in elite sport and apply it to an altogether different kind of winning – agency new business. So when I heard Serotonin Co-Founder […]

Jun 03, 2024

EP88: Beyond creativity – the commercial skills you need to succeed | Tim Perry

Early on in my agency career I often used to hear the expression ‘great creative work will sell itself’, and its close cousin ‘do great work and the clients will come’. Of course we know that in reality, certainly for the majority, these things are rarely true, but I’m still surprised by the number of […]

May 06, 202424 min

EP87: Why we need to stop ‘doing’ new business | Lucy Mann

Over the recent months, I have observed how agencies have been experiencing the impact of economic uncertainty – including the stalling of client decision-making, frozen budgets, disappearing pipelines, and everything in between. In their recent BenchPress report, The Wow Company described last year as ‘brutal’ for agencies, and as 2024 adds more political uncertainty, there is […]

Apr 08, 202422 min

EP86: In-house creative teams. An agency threat or opportunity? | Emma Sexton

Over recent episodes we’ve referenced many of the macro issues facing brands, which have in turn slowed down or stalled new business opportunities for agencies. But there’s an elephant in the room that we’ve yet to address; the growing trend of clients deciding to bring creative resource in-house. In this episode I speak to designer, […]

Mar 04, 202438 min

EP85: Changing perception | Steve Garside | TMW

Have you ever felt that your agency is pigeonholed by clients and prospects as being a specialist in just one thing, where in reality you have so much more to offer? Of course being seen as a specialist of any kind is a generally a good thing – we have many episodes where we have […]

Feb 05, 202438 min

EP84: Reposition, rename, rebrand | Rachel Cook | ThreeTenSeven

Here we are at the beginning of 2024 and it feels fitting for our first episode of the year to celebrate change. Last Summer, 40 year old agency Thompson Brand Partners rebranded as ThreeTenSeven – the final iteration of the agency’s repositioning following a management buy-out in 2019. At a time when we have seen […]

Jan 08, 202436 min

EP83: Winning proposals | Joe Ardeeser | Smart Pricing Table

December 2023 marks seven years of Small Spark Theory. Mindblowing then that’s it’s taken this long for a dedicated episode on the topic of proposals – such a crucial element of the new business process but a perennial pain point all the same. Joe Ardeeser was so determined to find a better solution for turning […]

Dec 04, 202332 min

EP82: How to improve performance and reduce stress | David Meikle | HTBAG

Regular listeners to this podcast will know that we spend a lot of time here talking about relationships. Of course there is much to say in our industry about creativity and marketing and technology innovation, but fundamentally, as agencies we are service businesses and so the process of attracting, winning and retaining clients has as […]

Nov 06, 202338 min

EP81: Launching an agency product | Paul Halfpenny | Filter

I have met many agencies over the years who have had ideas for spinning out their own products. The outcomes have been varied. From those who have successfully launched and created additional revenue streams, to those who have continued to scale and ultimately sell their product business. For many though, the constant pull of client […]

Oct 09, 202338 min

EP80: Winning new business in the US | Kat Thay | Katalyst

How much of your agency revenue comes from overseas clients? Did you know that the US is the largest recipient of UK exports, receiving £3.9bn worth of advertising and market research services, – a value that has more than tripled since 2020? In this episode I chat to Kat Thay, co-founder of K&C and co-president of the Austin […]

Sep 05, 202331 min

EP79: An intermediary perspective | Dominic Glenn | Ingenuity

Understanding how clients are buying agency services is fundamental to how we shape our new business and marketing strategies and processes. In recent episodes we’ve heard perspectives from procurement expert Tina Fegent and lead generation expert Alex Sibille, so it feels only fitting to add an intermediary point of view into the mix. Dominic Glenn […]

Aug 11, 202335 min

EP78: Managing digital capacity | Manish Dudharejia | E2M

Winning new clients has never been straightforward. But after the upheaval of the last few years, last year in particular we saw an added complication – resource. And of course that scarcity of talent naturally increased salary expectations, meaning that profit margins on new and existing projects were being squeezed even further. For this episode […]

Jul 10, 202344 min

EP77: AI, Web3 and the agency | Warren Hutchinson | Else

I feel as though we’ve been skirting around the edges of a beast of a topic for some time on this podcast, namely emergent technology and its impact on agencies. Of course, no single episode is going to unpick the labyrinth of challenges and opportunities for our clients, and in turn the agency community, but […]

Jun 12, 202343 min

EP76: A buyer perspective | Tina Fegent

In recent episodes, we’ve talked a lot about change and uncertainty, the persistent undercurrents unsettling our new business efforts and impacting our client relationships. So, it seems a perfect time to speak to someone who has an unrivalled perspective of the agency and client dynamic – Tina Fegent. From becoming one of the first marketing […]

May 09, 202339 min

EP75: Mastering uncertainty | Matt Watkinson | Methodical

When I saw the title of Matt Watkinson’s new book, Mastering Uncertainty, earlier this year I jumped at the chance to interview him on the podcast. Matt runs LA based agency Methodical. His first book, The 10 Principles Behind Great Customer Experiences had already been recommended on here by Nick Phipps back in episode 22 […]

Apr 06, 202343 min

EP74: New business trends | Alex Sibille | Future Factory

The recent acquisition of new business agency Future Factory by their leading competitor Ingenuity has been headline news in the new biz community. For me it was the perfect opportunity for a long overdue catch up with co-founder Alex Sibille. In this episode we discuss the expanded new business and marketing services offered by this […]

Mar 13, 202337 min

EP73: Market relevance | Mark Wilson | Futurestate Design

Any regular listeners to this podcast will know that I love agencies. I have a deep fascination for the dynamics of what are often small businesses, almost always servicing larger organisations and adapting to the continually shifting sands of markets, consumer behaviour, the economy, competitors – and of course, technology. In this episode I discuss […]

Feb 05, 202347 min

EP72: What to expect in 2023 | Steve Parks | Convivio

How do you feel about the year ahead? Confident? Concerned? Uncertain? Wherever you are on this spectrum, one thing we must be, is ready. I particularly like the work that Steve Parks does at Convivio because he focuses heavily on the macro issues facing clients and prospects and encourages agency leaders to use this insight […]

Jan 11, 202348 min

EP71: Managing mindset | Wendy Bollard

Whichever way we cut it, 2022 has been A LOT. The last few years have seen so much change; for individuals, businesses and our industry. Many of us are still adapting. Whether we are recalibrating, reinventing, surviving or thriving, we’re doing it all against a backdrop of relentless economic and political turmoil and uncertainty. So […]

Dec 05, 202233 min

EP70: A client perspective | Gareth Turner | Big Black Door

It’s been a little while since we had a client perspective on this podcast, and given the current economic wobbles, now feels like an excellent time to remedy this. So I’m delighted to share this conversation with Gareth Turner. Having enjoyed a stellar marketing career with brands such as Johns Smith’s, Bulmers and Lurpak, Gareth was […]

Nov 07, 202243 min

EP69: New business talent | Adam Graham | BD Matters

It’s been a while since we talked about new business talent on this podcast. But after a bumpy couple of years, it seems like the right time to shine a spotlight on the superstars in our industry who willingly show up every day to seek out new clients for their agencies. I wrote about the challenges […]

Oct 02, 202247 min
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