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Our Top 6 Favorite TV Recommendations

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Who doesn’t love a well-done TV show?! Our latest episode of Skirts Up dives deep into our top 6 favorite TV shows, from the comforting humor of 'The Office' to the emotional drama of 'Grey's Anatomy.' We discuss the evolving perspectives on beloved series, the power of representation in 'Jane the Virgin,' and the comfort found in re-watching familiar episodes. Special guest Lola shares her insights on drama-free parenting and the impact of TV shows on our lives.

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He's very self centered and just hasn't actually been in love. Like, doesn't know how to had a woman on his arm or something. Different women. Like, I'm pretty sure a challenge accepted was, can I sleep with a woman on Every month or was it every week? I think it was Monday. It was every day a different woman for a month. Rise and shine, ladies. You're tuned in to skirts up with Samantha and Melissa. We got your daily dose of hope and humor while we discuss everything from failing

to succeeding and all the spiciness in between. Hey. It's Amanda again. Hey. It's Melissa, and we are back. Yes. Episode 3. Yeah. Look at us just trucking along. This is kinda fun. So today, we have a guest. And I'm really excited. This is somebody that Sam has known through a Facebook group for a while. And when we first started the podcast, Sam, you came to me and you were like, there's this girl. She's so cool. She's so nice. She's nonjudgmental. I've never in my life been

in a drama free Facebook group. And this is a drama free Facebook group. And it's called what's the name of your group again, Lola? It is Not Your Mama's Mom group Okay. On Facebook. Okay. And Lola, who, is the creator of the Not Your Momma's Facebook group. And tell us a little bit about that. So I kinda started it when my son was maybe 6 months old, like, 4 years ago almost now. That's your first

baby? Yes. My first baby. So I didn't really have, like, a close community or, you know, friends and family to kind of help me and get advice from. So I and also all the other mom groups that I was in were just so toxic, like, the drama and Impressive. Yes. For no reason. Like, why are you coming at me like that? We're all supposed to be, you know, knitted together, helping each other. Like so I like so many groups. The other mama groups are like, if you post,

hey. I'm having a hard time trying to make a decision about, do I give my baby the COVID vaccine or not? Then, like, another mom will jump in and be like, if you give your child the COVID vaccine, you're a fucking idiot. Yeah. But then the other moms will jump in and be like, oh, you all are gonna kill the population if you don't. And it's like, woah. Woah. Woah. She just asked you to, like you know, like, there's no need to attack somebody like that.

So after seeing that in so many of the groups, I just wanted to create something that made me feel good and made other people feel good and safe. And, you know, like, we're all in it together as a community at the end of the day. You know? So so I actually how did you get such a cool group of people? Like, where did you start? Did you send it out to your not must not have been your your where did you get people? What did I do? I think I may have shared it with a couple of

my friends, and they just started inviting people. Like, the group started in Lilburn, and that's where I'm from. And a lot of people went to high school with me there. Yes. So, it's based out in Lilburn. So a lot of people from Lilburn have joined, but also other people, like from different states, different countries. We have a couple people from the UK and Canada, Australia, stuff

like that. So, I mean, it gets shared pretty much everywhere. And the more people that, other people invite, you know, obviously, it starts to chain of, you know, the in invites and stuff like that. It keeps everyone communicating in a positive way. Mhmm. Because I I don't have kids. So I'm not trying to make this about me right now, but I do well, I think I have a lot of experience with moms and mom groups because I used to

nanny. I nannied for, like, 9 years. I'd well, my babies suffer quite a few different families, but I, I would have to say nanny because I was, Yeah. Nanny is a better word anyway. Baby stat, just like you're sitting on baby, really? So, anyway, I guess my point is, I remember going to some of these groups and I'm I I'm an outsider. I was sitting there watching all of the moms.

Right? I was the one that was watching other I I had brought children to the group to play for playgroups and stuff, and, most moms were really nice. I kinda feel like, sitting back and watching everybody, there is a lot of there was a lot of judgment. And I feel like for some reason, we as women, it's easy to, like, bond over attacking someone else. Does that make sense? And I I don't love that. It makes me really sad because when I'm looking at all these women, I feel like I could

see, oh, yeah. She's a little bit insecure in this aspect and she's got issues in this aspect. But I think that's more of what it is. Not like because that's not bonding. Jealous over what you have, I think, is what that is. Because anger has to send from somewhere else. It's gotta come from somewhere else, you know? So I think most of the time when moms in general see something, they're like, oh, I wish I had that. But also, like, I'm gonna be rude to her because I don't have

that. And I have the privilege to be. It's like, what? Ew. Why? It is it gives you something to work on for sure. And Melissa, that's a really great point of view because these mom groups, that's an actually really valid Mhmm. Point that, like, I think that You see a lot of it, though. Yeah. Like, that makes a lot of sense that you would join a mom group because when you're full day long term taking care of a child, that's really valid. Why would you not want that support as well to better learn

how to x y z? Like, constantly, you know, communicate sense. Right. Right. And I think a lot of times, we just want some validation that what we're doing is okay, and we forget that it's okay to say, hey. Well, I think also society makes us so scared of failure, right, and messing up. Oh, because either thing that you do is a failure to someone. Yep. And it's like, you know what? I think that everybody's just so afraid of just being judged that

they kind of, like, do the judging first, if that makes sense. I think that happened so long. Yeah. But so I think it's amazing that you could start a group. But I guess we've introduced Lola, so I was thinking maybe we go into our topic of today? Yeah. What is our topic today, fam? Today, our topic is our top 6 favorite TV shows of all times. Okay. Why did you decide to do this topic? I chose this topic because, right now, I'm a stay at

home mom. I don't get to discuss anything with anyone. Like, it's just the mundane, normal day to day conversations with just my husband about how was your day? What did you do today? And if I'm reading a book or if I'm watching a TV show that I've never seen before, all my commentaries are just in my head. Something about that TV show that just really, really I felt really passionate about and really, really loved. I don't have anyone to share it with. You're right. I can't get

my husband to watch the same shows as me. Exactly. And then we're, like, we're both going different directions. Right? We're very busy. It's not that Mhmm. We do have some shows that we watch together, but and it's like, I really wanna talk to him about this. But, yeah, okay. They don't know what I'm talking about,

so they can't give me any feedback or their opinion on it. Yes. And so the shows that I have felt something very passionate about, like, I'll be this I'll be explaining it, and, he'll be like, that sounds like a really weird thing to feel passionate about. And I'm like, you just you would have to understand. You would have to see what I'm talking about to understand why, like, it just feels so passionate. I will say that we have one show that we,

like, have watched together. And at first, he told me absolutely not. Like, this is gonna be dumb. But now it's become both of our comfort shows. So there is one of those. So at least there's one. Are you gonna share? What is the show? Yeah. So, it's actually my top one. It's called How I Met Your Mother. That one. Okay. Have you seen it, Melissa? I have seen it. I did not get into watching it all the time, but I have seen it. And it is funny. It's funny. It's cute. Yeah.

So that one is my favorite. It's my favorite go to, like, if I'm just exhausted, For those who've never seen it, what's the premise of that show? So that show, it's about a group of friends, and it's basically just their life together. The whole point is that the main character, Ted Mosby, is explaining to his children how he met their mother through, like, what, like, 8 seasons, 10 seasons? Like, stories and stuff like that. Yeah. And it's just episodes about

that. Yeah. About And their friendship through along the way and stuff like that. The ending is probably my favorite. Oh, I actually the ending The ending, I have seen it. And I cried even though I'm didn't get invested into the whole thing. Cry every time. It's the only only, only show

that makes me cry every time. But I think it's because it the ending of that show actually makes me a little frustrated because you have this long buildup of finding the mother and how he got to the mother and how he got to his wife and just this, like, basically love story of how he got to her. And they bring her in in the last, like, season, so about, like, the last 4 or 5 episodes, honestly. Spoiler alert. Oh,

yes. Spoiler alert. And then so you fall in love with with this mother and with his wife, and they don't give you enough time to to get to know her. They don't give you enough time to get to know her. And before we know it, it just shows us that she dies. And that's basically how it ends. And so for me, it's so frustrating that you just fall in love with this character, and you just fall in love with her. And then boom, over. She dead. Yeah. No. That is

so sad. And then anything like where children don't have like a parent like that just gets me. That's so hard for me. And then the other but the but the part of the ending that I do love is that I love very much, the, what's that word called, the character change in Barney, his progression, and how his character changes because he goes from not ever wanting a family, not ever having love, like, just not having that as well. Self centered, right? He's very self centered and just hasn't actually

been in love. Like, doesn't know how to He always had a woman on his arm or something. Different women. Like, I'm pretty sure a challenge accepted was can I sleep with a woman on Okay? A different day of the month. Every month or was every week? I think it was Monday. It was every day a different woman for a month. Yeah. That sounds like a lot. Yeah. And it ends with him having a baby and finally having that connection of finding a true love. And it was his little girl. Oh, I have a

baby. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It was so good. And like, and that's just my favorite. That's my favorite go to for a background television because it's just I know exactly what's gonna happen. I can really laugh with it. I love their quotes and, like, their inside jokes, and I I freaking use their inside jokes, like, in real life all the time. So which one of you wanna go first? What is your top favorite go to? So I have a few shows that I have to choose a top. I don't think I can

do that. I just I've never been one of those people that can choose a top, but I can choose, like, a top 5. Beautiful. But I'll just give you guys a couple. I've got, like, the office, parks and rec, the IT crowd. Do you guys know that one? I don't know that one. I've actually never seen any of those. I know I'm, like, a minor of the group. That's okay. And then New Girl, which I've been doing now. New Girl. It's the best. The best. I am obsessed with

New Girl too. So oh, and then one more. Sorry. The Mindy Project. I love The Mindy Project so much because have you ever watched I've heard about it. Alright, girl. You're gonna have to pick 1. The Mindy Project then. I'm gonna pick The Mindy Project. Okay. She played Kelly in The Office, but, anyway Oh, I know who you're talking about. Yeah. I think it's Mindy Kaling is her name. She plays a gynecologist, who's, like, in her

twenties, late twenties, early thirties, and living in, like, New York. The relatable. Trying to, like, date. And I love it because she's kind of she's a very flawed character. Very flawed. She's relatable, but, like, she's also kind of a bitch. She's okay. So she's not she's not always that nice, but, she's kinda self centered. That's self reflection. Yes. Does she at least progress into, like, a grown character? Like it's like the episodes clearly show that it's not

a secret. Like, everybody knows she is, and I don't know. I feel like she kinda works. I don't know. I think anything that could make you look at yourself, like, am I like that too? Is a good is a good thing. I wanna say yes. Yes. She does. She ends up having a kid and kinda yeah. No. She does. It's just very slow. And I don't know. For me, maybe it was slow for me too. I'm 43, and I wanna say a lot of the things I learned about my life, I didn't really learn till well into my

thirties. And so I don't know. Maybe maybe that's another reason I kind of relate to her, and I like her. But some of my favorite comedians are from that show. They're, like, they're knit. Yeah. To add that to my list? Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's really good. She's just got all of these stereotypes in this show too. Like, she has, like, the New York guy who's, like, super tough, and

he can't get in touch with his feminine side. And then, like, there's the other male gynecologists that work upstairs from them that they have a rivalry with. And they're super, like, holistic, and they don't believe in natural or they only believe in natural medicine. And so she's obviously, like, an MD doctor, and so there's, like, a huge clash there. They just have all these stereotypes in it, and I That's a real life stereotype, though. Yeah. That is a

real life clash. Mean. Right. So I don't, I don't love stereotypes in real life, but I like being able to kinda pick them out and see and be like, you know what? Just because they're being stereotyped But that's exactly what we're here to talk about. It's like just because you strictly believe in one aspect, one one side, and someone else strictly believes in one side, it's real life. And what we're trying to do here, Melissa, is we're trying to

get people to nicely see there are two sides to this coin. And just because we don't agree, doesn't mean that we can't be friends. That's or have a difference of opinion. Yes. So it's really fun. I think I'm also someone who will pick out those stereotypes also and be like, oh, that's interesting. They're really ugly to each other. Note. Let's not do that, Samantha. Like Right. Okay. I like that, aspect, that point of view. Sounds good. So what's yours, Lola? What are

you gonna share with us? I think my top one is probably Grey's Anatomy. Like, top, top, top because I've seen it about 10 times already. I think most people have. Wow. Most people I actually never have seen it all the way through. It's amazing. I haven't seen it all the way through all the new seasons because there's, like, 19 seasons now. Right. Yeah. It's it'll take you, like, months. Like, probably. Yeah. I think it would take me a year to watch it from beginning to

end, honestly. But, I mean, it's a great show. Formulaic, though. Right? Like, it's not just, oh, there's, a sickness or a problem. We have to find out what it is. Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. It's, like, based on the characters. Yes. Do you go through the family characters' lives, like, what's happening in the offices and, like, the doctors' offices and, like, there's so much drama in it. And there's no drama in my life, so I need drama somewhere else.

You know? Like really valid. That's very I need it. I crave it, but I don't want it in my life. You know? So I just watch it somewhere else. Ever hear how, like, women are a well, I say our age, but, women are addicted to, like, the true crime and the serial killer podcast. Crime. Yes. And watching kids. I need some excitement. Yes. Yeah. That's, you know very true. So it just it brings me out of my shell, and I'm like, oh, yes. Let's let's watch someone else get into it.

Yes. For real. I love it. I don't have relationship problems, but oh my god. Let me eat my popcorn, you know? So I think that's I love that. It's something I crave, you know? If you could tell me, like, those I think anything with a little spice in it, like, like, all those books I read are spice. So there's gotta be some type of spice or, like, you know, hotness in it. Otherwise, it's just like That passionate, like, cooking. I will say I'm not, like, a super spicy TV

watcher. See it. Yes. I don't want to see it. I actually don't watch a lot of things with nudity. I don't either. So the fact that Grey's Anatomy has that spiciness without the, like, actual visual showing everything because you don't have to do that to to enjoy spicy. True. You don't. Just my personal opinion. I agree. I agree. Yeah. I don't wanna see booty and titties anywhere. I no. I don't, like, want to, but I ain't trying to stare. Don't mind. But you're

right. Sometimes it's just gratuitous. Right? Like, sometimes, like, what was the point of that? Right. Did it even add anything? There's, like, a part of me that's bright. That's, like, there just because and then there's, like, a part of me that's, like, okay. At this point, I have seen, like, 10 pairs of tits. Where's the dick? Literally. Yes. Why are the men bodice? Yes. Every single time, I'm like, what? I wanna see some man booty. Right. Not woman booty.

Right. Right. Like, I think if there's never Give us give us both some. But the man and the women. Better. Right. And I think that I am getting better at it. I think that for a long time, there was also, like, a sense of, like, self consciousness in it of, like For sure. Okay. I wanna look like that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Exactly. And now I'm just more confident in how I look. Mhmm. Yeah. Because I've had that

surgery. And so now it's You don't have to say I'm confident in how I look because I've had that surgery. You can just be like, I'm hot. I mean, now I feel hot. But You are. You are hot. You are, girl. Yeah. Yikes. But now it just takes away some of that insecurity and that jealousness. So now it pops up on TV. Again, I don't I'm not gonna watch a long love scene where there's nudity in it. It just makes me uncomfortable. Mhmm. But I grew up very sheltered, and I kind of was taught to cringe.

Like, my parents would cover my eyes during kissing scenes, and I don't I've kind of worked hard not to be like that. And so there is a part of me that does feel uncomfortable when I watch those scenes too. Just because it's engraved in your head. Yeah. But I don't wanna be that way. I wanna be like, wait. This is just a this is our natural body. But I do think it has to do with this it does need to have to do with the story or else if it's just there for, like, clickbait

Just because. Yeah. That's not That is so funny because I don't feel like I was sheltered. I'm just naturally, like, cringe about it. And you were sheltered, so it makes sense that that's programmed in your brain to, oh, I'm supposed to cringe. But I also could see why that makes you feel like I shouldn't be cringing. This is natural, and I'm gonna feel natural about this. Right. And I feel like I should be too in a sense, but, like, I just can't

I can't bring myself to, like, sit there and watch it. Exactly. The same. I have, for years, been like, this shouldn't make me cringe. Come on. Snap out of it. Snap out of it. And so then finally, I was like, I think it just makes me uncomfortable, and I think I can just accept that. Like and, you know love that. I'll be respected for it. It's fine. Right. If you have people around you that actually care about you, they're gonna respect you. Like, there is this movie,

Leonardo DiCaprio movie. What was it? The wallflower movie. And there's so much nudity in that. Is that, like, Wolf on Wall Street or something? I think so. Okay. So much nudity in that. Yeah. I haven't watched it. My husband literally turn it off, like, 2 minutes. I'm watching it. No worries. Turn it off. Yeah. Oh. And it's with naked girls everywhere. I'm like, what the Yeah. I have a question. Why? I think I I feel like that would stress me out too. Because I feel

like they're trying to get a reaction for that. Yes. Right? Yes. It's just been too many sensory overload too. Okay. I feel like we got off topic. Lola, did you explain why Grey's Anatomy makes you passionate? And I just need some kind of, like, brain tingling reinforcements. Do you know? That feeling like you're a Grey's Anatomy doctor. Like, oh, I know what I'm talking about. Be a part of the team. Like, I'll be like, baby, Let's go. New orthotics. Yes. Like, let me fix your boo

boos. You gotta know doctor. You gotta stab that pin into the trachea. Yes. And then you gotta, like, put the little, little thing down there and just yeah. The tube thank you. The trachea tube, get the get the 4 on not the 409, but the, like, the Fisler clips. You clip it off like any like, there's just so many possibilities. I really wanna be an OB. Who wants to go on topic number 2 or, show number 2? I can. Shoot. Well, shoot. Do I choose something

because here's the thing. Something that has me Something that just really has you really feeling it and, like, why? Okay. It's Fargo. I love all seasons of Fargo. Have you guys ever watched it? No. Melissa, you are way more, like, TV show knowledgeable than we are. I like this. I don't know. I don't know about that. So Fargo is really interesting to me because it's kind of like watching a piece of art. The music is so good.

You're sometimes you're just like I was listening I was watching it the other day, and I we have a roommate. My husband and I have somebody that's staying renting a room from us, and he has never seen Fargo. And I was imagining, what does it sound like to him? Because there's long periods of just music Oh. And you're watching things happen, but you're not bored. You're it's very you're kind of feeling the anxiety and the tense

and this. And No. I really appreciate you bringing that up because some of the other shows that, like, are on my list, like, it's because of the emotion that they make you feel because of Because I wanna cry today. Because yes. Because of the art and because the way it's videoed because of the way it's directed. Yeah. And that's like what you just explained is like, you love it because of the way it's basically directed and portrayed. Really cool shots and

Tell me what is it about. Fargo is an anthology series, meaning that each season's a different story, different time period. Oh. And it's basically this weird murder that happened in this little tiny town. She's pregnant. She's a police officer. And I love that they made, I loved that there was, like, an odd woman. She's kinda like but she's not stupid. She's smart, and she figures things out and while being in the oddball. Yeah. And so that first season kind of was based on that on the

on the TV on the movie, I mean. Well, actually, the other thing I like about it too is because there's always multiple stories going on and how, like, sometimes they intertwine and the people from this story have no idea that something over here totally affected what happened to them. Oh. Yeah. It's so fun, and it's so ironic too. Probably happens in real life, honestly. For sure. It's just it's really too smart. How aggressive is it? They call her the type

oh, like, do you mean aggressive. Like, trigger Abuse. Abuse. Like, abuse? This this this season, I would say, yes, maybe trigger warning. Yeah. This season, it was really interesting, actually. So like I said, it's art. So when she went back to, like, deal with her past, they did it in a way where they showed it through a puppet show. And it was kinda it was creepy, but it was also, like, I was really glad they weren't showing real people because it was It would have

been graphic. Yeah. And if you've ever had had a situation, like, with sexual abuse or anything like that, it could have it could have triggered you for sure. Like, I was Okay. Well, that's good to know because there's definitely shows like Outlander is a lot of people's, like, favorite show. And I can't get past, like, the first and second episode because that's that's enough trigger for me. Like, I can't get past it.

Okay. So So I think her topic really reminded me of, Stranger Things just because there's so many different things happening I love Stranger Things. The show. And then I love it. And then, like, there's, in the not chapters. I'm trying to Seasons. Books. In the, seasons. Thank you. There's different, like, sceneries and different places that the demogorgons are taking over, you know. So it's like, it's not in the same spot, but it's nest it's in the same, like, town. Mhmm. But

he he just goes to different places around the town. It's like different dimensions? Yes. Right? Is that Yeah. Yeah. The up and the down. Yeah. It's honestly so good, but I hate waiting so long for the seasons. Mhmm. Because I think it's been almost 2 years now. So what about stranger things, like, makes it one of your go to shows? It's just how interesting it is and all the characters. I really love the character, like, build up and displays, the attachments that you

make too. There was one attachment, what's his name? The long haired guy with the curly hair. Oh, Billy Billy? Yes. Billy. He was really bad at first Really? With his sister. Yeah. That's right. His character development kind of changed to protecting the town and doing all this stuff for the people of the town. So and he was

cute. I know. And so there's, you know, a plus. Yeah. He did do some things to kind of redeem himself, and I was like, they're gonna try to change him, and now I'm supposed to like him, but he's a bad guy. He's such a he was so mean, but then they share his history with his mom and you're crying, and you're like, damn it. Mhmm. But then Yeah. Basically. Yeah. But it's good because it kinda brings us back to what Sam said earlier. Why do we why does everything have to be black and white?

Why? Mhmm. Like, things are not just one way. Like, there are different ways to see the same side of the coin or off different money. You know what I'm saying? Mhmm. And if you see someone like, it's it's someone that you knew in high school and you just see them as this person that they were in high school, that doesn't mean that that's who they are at 30 years old. Right. Like, I would hope that, you know, the same bully in middle school or the same bully in high school is not that bad

person here at 30 years old. I would have hoped they had some kind of change within themselves. You know? Right. You're right. And, also, we don't even know what was happening to have them act the way they were acting back then anyway. Right? What were they exposed to? What were they like, something's always happening behind closed doors that we don't know about. Always. Yes. Always. You know, now that we're older,

you know It's interesting. To the show point, like, you don't you can change your mind because people change, and it just shows that people change. And you don't have to treat them like they were before. Yeah. So Billy, is he one of your favorites? Probably. And then, what's her name? The girl that works at Chips Ahoy. Oh, you're vegan, like Maya. Well, her real life. No. Is her real life? No. That's her name in real life. Real life. Okay. I was like, I

don't know her name's in real life, but yeah. Yeah. The girl with the blonde shirt hair, is that who it yeah. I love her. She is so funny and she reminds me of me, like, her weirdness, quirkiness is like Same. Oh, I love her. She's so cute and everything too. And, like, her and Steve, their relationship was so cute. Best friends. Really is. Oh my god. You if you haven't watched it yet I have watched it because my husband's obsessed with it. It's the best. And, usually, I don't like

shows like that. It's not one of the ones. Not normally. I'll read books about it, but I'm just now starting to get in, like, my fantasy realm and stuff like that. So I'm kind of opening up more to it. But I think when I started watching it, it was when it first came out, and I was like, yo, what is this? Like, I've never watched anything like this before. So it sucked me in immediately. I was like, Brett, you have to watch this show. It's about

kids playing Dungeons and Dragons in the eighties. And he's like, okay. Yeah. It was definitely the opposite for us. Simon's like, oh, I love it. You gotta watch it. It's so good. And I'm like, but it's children. Like, I don't I have enough children to watch. I mean, most of them are, like, adult ish. Now I understand. Now I understand why. It's it is a good it's a good take. Okay. So my my show number 2, let's see. I think

we talked about Lola's. We talked about your show 2 number 2. My show number 2 that I just watch all the time well, not all the time, but, like, when I just want something familiar, is Jane the Virgin. And a lot of people look at me like I'm insane. Like, that show is so stupid. But It's so cute. It's very comical. It's very It's like an umbrella. It is. It's a telenovela. Mhmm. And it's really Is it like ugly Betty was? I never watched that. I haven't watched it either. It's very,

it's it's it's basically an Americanized telenovela. I said that wrong. So it's things that would typically not happen in real life. Mhmm. But part of why, especially now, I appreciate that so much is because my life is a telenovela. Like, things that are happening, And so it's just there's a lot of comedy in it. But then I also really like the aspect of where it brings in the challenges, and it really shows you the struggles of an immigrant family that has moved into America and the

troubles that they go through and how they're treated. And, and it's just like, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. It's just very, like, it's nostalgic. It's like, to me, it's giving you a different perspective, like full body. Yes. Like you are experiencing someone else's experience, and someone does experience that. There are obviously people that that this that part, that aspect is their life that we don't understand because we have not experienced

that. So I love that aspect of it. But I also can relate because of my life experiences, especially currently, but also the actors, no one else could play them. No one else could. Yeah. Gina Rodriguez, no one else could play that part. Like, it had to have been her her mom I love her mom. Had to be her. It could not have been anyone else. Her dad could not have been anyone else. Like like when you watch it, I think you pick up yes. You learn

their characters. And it's like you understand, like, it could not have been played by anyone else. They really know their character. They do. Like, they have that body. Mhmm. And that is where my obsession and my love for Gina Rodriguez has come from. I watch everything she's been. I love her so much. I wanna be her friend. Okay. What's going on my list? It's Jane the Virgin. It's really good. Super

cute. It is cute. But and I, like, I like I don't mind watching shows that bounce back and forth from English to Spanish. Mhmm. It's got, like, a commentary aspect to it. So, that's also really funny. Like like, where they're talking to the camera? Like a narrator person. That narrator in the background that's speaking Jane is feeling very upset today because Yes. I love it. Will she get over that feeling? Yeah. And then it shows you like what and then obviously, it plays

out. And I don't know. I just it's one of my shows that just makes me feel things. I was looking up Gina Rodriguez to see what else she's in. Oh, she's in Not Dead Yet. I've seen that a lot of it. That show, I just started watching, and oh my god. I haven't watched the last episode yet. My sister has prepared me to be disappointed, so I'm really that's why I haven't finished it. It. I kinda stopped. Yes. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna put both of those on my list then.

Okay. So, Lola, give us the number 3 show that you couldn't live without. Probably Gilmore Girls, just because it's so comforting to me. And, like, I like the fall seasons in it, the winter seasons in it. Oh, it gives you all the seasons? All the seasons. So you get to, like, experience the change and all the characters, the change in the town, the change in, like, the whole, like, scenery of it. And just I, to me, can sit with a cup of coffee and just enjoy it. Feel like you're in

that season with them? That's so fun. Like, this is what I like to hear about, like, the intense details of why someone likes the show. It's so good. And just, like, Lorelei is probably one of my favorite just because I wish I had a mom like that that was so headstrong. And, like, she is not her daughter's mom, but she's also a friend to her and teaches her, you know, right from wrong. But also lets her have, you know, her freedom and what she wants

to write. So I also think though, because she had her so young, I also feel like she doesn't know how to be a proper mom and a proper authoritative figure. That's my opinion of it. Though I could see depending on how you were raised, that you wish you had a mom like that. So I could see both. For me, I think it's a lot of irresponsibility and that she should be a little bit better, of a mom. I just wish because my parents were, like, they weren't strict, I would say, but

they also had, like, hella rules. You know what I'm saying? So I just wanted a little bit more, like, honestly, where I could talk to my parents and tell them, hey. This is how I'm here. I think in that aspect, but not of, like, so much of the freedom letting me do this and that, but I just wanted that closeness with my parents. To be able to just be open with that without feeling Mhmm. Afraid to tell them

something. So it just makes me super uncomfortable. Like, I I or not uncomfortable but comfortable and I wanna live that life and be in Rory's shoes and, you know, experience her college aspects and, you know, go through life with her and just her and Dean and then her

other boyfriend and stuff like that. It's just I just the part that I see a lot of is that Rory's growing up feeling like she's the mom and taking care of her mom, and that's something that I just strongly hope that that is not what my family is like. It definitely changes in the end for sure, I think. Mhmm. But Laurel kind of wakes up. Have you seen Gilmore Girls? So I actually, for the reasons that you're saying, thought that

I would love it because I love small towns. I love, like, the little coffee shop on the corner with the fall and walking in a sweater and but I couldn't get into it. It was really hard. I felt like there was a lot of complaining about how good their life is. It's a lot of complaining. Lorelei is a very complacent person for sure, and she gets things handed to her and stuff too. These are first world problems.

But I couldn't get into it, but I feel like I the the feelings that you're saying it evokes for you are is what I or what I expected that it would effervesce. I, I Yeah. And there's some things obviously that I don't like about it. Like, it's kind of a not I wouldn't say a slow burn, but, it just it's really slow and the characters are just, like, meh. You know, like, their conversations and stuff. Just like, why are there so many pauses in between? You know, like, what are

we doing? There's some awkwardness. Yeah. It's so awkward. I it's just one of those shows that I watched one time all the way through, so I don't have this, like, engraved into my memory. Yeah. The more you watch it, the more awkward I think it gets. Yeah. Because you just pick up on all the stuff that you haven't, like, picked up on before. Annoying. Yeah. Oh. Why? Why are we doing that? I think you brought up another Yeah. This makes me feel so weird. Yeah. Like, I think you brought up

a good point actually about how you said the characters are meh. Like, I feel like you're onto something. You kinda have to have, like, a passion whether you intensely like or dislike one of them. And, again, there's no black and white. I'm like, I'm not saying they have to either be good or bad, but, I feel like there's gotta be something to make you say feel strongly about them, I guess. Mhmm. You want that? I think you're on to something because,

again, we grow from the first time we watch this show. So if we watch this show for the first time when we are 19 years old, and now we're 30 years old rewatching that show, probably what makes us love and feel passionate about a character may make us different. It will probably maybe make us cringe in our thirties of, like No internet. They should not have been acting like that. They should not have said that. They should not have, like, I would hope that I wouldn't be reacting like that at

their age. And I bet that as we grow ourselves and as we age ourselves, that how we feel about a topic and a character at one age is not how we feel later. Yeah. That's right. Because I mean, for now, I could rewatch it now. And then my feelings might, you know, be different. That's very possible. It may have been like a favorite at one stage, otherwise. Because it was a while ago when I first started it. So it's just boring to me now. Yeah. So I'm just like, no. I love the

coziness of it. Obviously, just it's so so. Is it still like your number 3 show? Probably. Just still to have it in the background? Yeah. Because I'm so you see it, but hearing the noises and stuff that goes on. So, like, comfort. Yeah. I just it's that comfort. You know what to expect, and you can't be disappointed because you

already know what disappoints you and what. So it's just either that or I put on something else that I have no interest in and then end up changing it to something that I have, you know, a comfort. That makes sense. That's because if I don't like it, I'm gonna change it right back. Well, it reminded me of the phrase, the enemy, you know, is

sometimes just because you know, like, what to expect. So sometimes, having something that you don't love on but you're comfortable with it is better than having something new on that you're not sure even if you objectively might say, oh, I kinda think that technically is a better show. Well, who knows? There's so many things to rate shows, but but you know what I'm saying. Mhmm. Like Yeah. Interesting. K. Melissa, give us your next, like, must have show that you're just

passionate about. I guess I would say office and parks and rec, comfort wise. They're just kinda like they're just quirky, weird people that I hate. Everyone's quirky and weird. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I have to say that I'm probably the odd one out, and I have not watched either of them because something about the filming of it, I can't I can't get into it. The filming. The close ups The documentary style. Weird. Yes. Which is so good. I love documentaries. It it

makes it it's so awkward. Well, maybe it's the awkwardness. Right? I think that I think it you're right. I think I've seen, like, 1 like, a couple of episodes, and then I'm like, oh, that's cringy. Like, oh. Feel like that secondhand embarrassment for them sometimes. It's intense, and I, like, I don't wanna feel I don't wanna feel like that. Like, I'm already embarrassed in, like, anywhere. Watching it happen. Yeah. Yeah. I feel that for myself enough.

Like, let's not. Okay. I can see that. Yeah. I can see that. That's funny. But, you relate to, like, that kind of quirkiness, and you enjoy Oh, so maybe I should actually I am gonna throw another show with that. It's the IT crowd. So this one is British humor, and it's about these 2 guys. They work in this for this big corporation. They're the IT guys for this conglomerate of a, like, Skyrise type office building, but they're in the

basement. And it's really funny just like they're it's another world down there, and it's just them 2, and they're both really weird. I love it. I love it so much. Okay. You have to clarify. It's a whole another world as in, like, literally another world or, like, they're just in their own little world? Their own world down there in the basement is like I don't know how to explain it. Okay. So it's those 2 guys, and then

the company decides they need someone down there managing them. So they send down this woman who knows nothing about the IT technical side of things. It's just funny because now she's, like, thrust into their world. Right? So they they it does have stories where they try to go out into the world and, like, date or whatnot, and there's this whole episode where they take out these prostitutes thinking that they Oh. They don't know they're

prostitutes. Like, they take them to the park Oh my god. And they're, like, at the amusement park going on rides and stuff together and, like That makes sense. I could see how that would be funny and, like, entertaining. It's funny and cute. And one of my other favorite episodes is they have, like, this underground fight club, but it's an actual spelling bee. What?

And so you know, it's so dumb. I know. So Moss goes and he says and so they're, like, all in this parking lot and they're, like, having, like, a throw down, right, with words. And Moss goes, I came here to drink my milk and kick some ass and I just finished my milk. And it's like it's so, like, stuff that's not normal. Okay. This actually sounds enjoyable. Thank you. It's just stupid. And it's kind of reminding me of Big Bang feels. Big Bang Theory? A little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

But I would feel like and I think I might only say this because, honestly, now that I think about it, Big Bang would be a really good, like, background show. But I think that my next top three right now is This Is Us. I am watching it. I'm behind on times. I am watching it for the first time right now. And I just know I like I'm I don't commonly watch shows as they come out and people get real intense into them. So right now, it's kind of in the past. And so now I've decided to watch it. And,

oh, my god. I just the the the way the story is played out, the way this, like the stories are told and the way they intertwine. Like, it's just I don't know that I've seen a show like that on how it comes together. It's gonna make you want to cry. I actually know. I know people who say it makes them cry every episode. And no, I've not cried. I I got very upset. I mean, I I felt like a little, like, gloomy after Jack dies. But

My mom, she would sit there and cry at every episode. So that's where I've been, like No. You know? I think it just depends. I did. I Aw. I did. It doesn't make me cry every episode, but it just makes me go, like, and then, like, man, like, the different perspective, like, you know, as siblings. Like, you're gonna remember a story and a scenario and a situation one way, but your sibling has a different glasses on, basically, of how perspective of that situation. Yeah. What? And what it felt for

them, and they remember it differently. And I think that that's a very interesting, thing to show because that is true. It is very true. I get that with my brother all the time. Yeah. And I just I don't know. I love it and the different paths that you end up taking and just the love story of the mom and dad and, you know, the love story that Randall ends up in. And it's just it's just very cozy. And I just really enjoy watching it play out and how it plays

out and really enjoying it. And I'm sure that I would end up watching it again. Well, then I'm gonna have to watch that. Mhmm. That's cute. Yeah. For me, part of it is the nostalgia. Like, they literally are born the same year I was born. Oh. Well, no. I think they were born in 79. Either way, I was born in 80. And so watching, like, all of the back flash flashback episode, I'm like, oh my god. And you can see what era you're in as it plays. I I do enjoy that aspect of

it too, and it's like because I laugh all the time. Like, Simon is not enjoying the show at all. But, like, you know, if I've had a rough day with the kids, I'm like, tough. I'm gonna watch it because it's gonna soothe me. And I crack up every time it shows, like, the time period of when she's got, like, that blue eye shadow, like, all over her face. I'm like, that is not a good look. God. I remember that. More blue eye shadow all the time, and she might still to this day. I'm

not sure. My mom still wears blue eye shadow. Oh, really? I swear to God. That's the only color she will ever wear. It is so funny. But in I think part of it that, like, I find interesting is like so you can tell that they change in each season of their life. And it reminds me of, like, okay, so I've worn my makeup the same way since high school. And then now that I just turned 30, like, literally, I'm like, I feel like I need to, like, redesign myself. Oh, fun. I need to make a change.

I probably shouldn't wear my makeup the same way that I wore it in high school. And so I've literally been playing with different, like, makeup setups to see, like, okay, should I wear my eyes like this now? Should I wear my eyes like that? And it's, like, I've been playing around with my makeup. And so it's just really funny at my it wasn't that drastic as it is in the show. But it's, like, to that point, like, where you start seeing a change in my makeup

now, in my clothing. Oh, yeah. And then maybe it'll come back around sometime soon. Yeah. You know? It's true. It will. I remember when I was little and my mom would be like, because when I, not I say little, but when I was a teenager and the clothes were what are happening now. And so Mhmm. We wore everything, not just bootcut, but, like, at and loose and big bootcut. Right? Just kinda like it is now. But my mom, I remember her saying Oh, that's right. Yeah. I

will I will always wear skinny stones. Like it. But, And I like the baggy stuff too just Yeah. I remember her saying, oh, those are the same pants I wore in high school. And I was like, not really. It's not the same. And No. But it now I'm feeling the same. I'm like, no. It's literally the It's literally the same thing. It's freaking old navy. And I'm like, no. Not the knit spaghetti strap dresses. That is

so funny. That's like I want a whole another episode on that because I love the generational changes and how people view them because that is like The kids now are like, oh, it's new. It's like, no. I mean, we had this back in the day. Flare jeans now with the high top and, like, I'm you just know that, like, our, you know, another generation is like, no, that was in when we were there. And now like, the skinny was is like now like, it's interesting. Yeah. I

think that's that's a whole great another topic. So what kind of brought this topic on was, I also saw a, an article in The Times about why it is that we have these same episodes that we watch over and over again. And it really just as we were talking about naturally, like, those topics came up. It was, why do we do this? And it's, so because we have, one, feeling like that sense of community and, feeling like you have someone you

can relate to. And okay, so one of those reasons was it also can make you feel more restored if you're sitting there scrolling through, your Netflix or your Hulu and your Prime and sometimes all of them because you just can't make a decision because you're exhausted. It's the end of your day. You've already fought all

your children. You've already put out all of the work fires, and now it's just your time to flop in bed, flop on the couch, and let me just watch something that just makes me feel whole again and calm. Yeah. In the article, she said something to the effect that we can Yes. We'll link that article in case you wanna see where you align. It's nice to have

something familiar. Mhmm. Yes. And what I am struggling with right now is that all the new episodes that are new shows that I try, I find that I get hooked hooked hooked into the show. Maybe lose a little bit of interest, but now I have to know how it ends. Yeah. My example of this is Pretty Little Liars. Like, I got hooked again. I'm late to the show. I just started it, like, a couple of months ago. I'll have to watch that too. I I never did

see it. It it really wasn't worth all the time. Right. Because the ending was so awful. Oh, okay. It was very disappointing. And then I'm like, I wasted, like, a month What did you watching the show. Well, spoiler alert for anyone, but, what did you hate about the ending so much? It's so left field. Oh. Like, it completely kind of changes. Like, it doesn't really make sense of how it got there Okay. I guess? Yeah. Or how they got there?

It it starts with having to Didn't build to anything. It didn't. No. I don't feel like Okay. I mean Basically, I think that they were trying to keep up with the factor where you cannot guess. Mhmm. Like, you the the like, you have to guess who this person a is that's watching the group, basically. That's destroying their lives and making it very miserable and very hard. So it that's it keeps you locked in of, like, okay. Well, who is this person? Like,

let's get to the bottom line. Who is it? Okay. Yeah. But they're also based on books, so the books may be a little better. Oh, that's probably. Honestly. So I haven't read them yet. So I wouldn't know. Yeah. But I would I would assume that books are better than the TV shows. I would hope more detailed because it just literally goes boop boop boop boop. Okay. Like, what happened? Okay.

Interesting. You know? Yeah. That's not that's not fulfilling. Right? Okay. So I know that y'all, like, sneaked in a couple of extra TV shows, but I think you can't forget to put in friends. Like, who does not watch friends? Not. I love Friends. Is that not everyone's backup show? So for Friends, it Are you about to say that's not for you? Yeah. It was kind of not really. Kind of. So when it came out, it obviously, it was in the nineties. I was, like, 12 or 13, I

think. And, all of my friends watched it, but I wasn't allowed to because it wasn't like, it was probably in inappropriate, apparently. Yeah. Looking back now for sure. Yeah. But I didn't want I didn't so I didn't watch it until I was in my late twenties. And I did get, like, sucked in, but part of me feels like that maybe I got I just wanted to know what everybody else loved so much, and so I watched all of them. And I haven't I

don't know. When I go back and watch them now, like you said, different stages of our lives, I go whack and watch them now, and I'm like, I don't know. Things make me cringe. But I could see that. Yeah. I don't know. Something's wrong. So, like, there's a there was a part of my a time in my life when it did fill, I guess, a need because I felt like I was kind of, like, able to get in with everybody else. That one is for sure. Train too. I would

watch this too. That is for sure the one that's, like, a sense of community, a sense of being. You feel like they are your friends. Yes. I do. I feel like I'm in the apartment next door. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure that each of you have shows that are your comfort shows and your go to shows. And I'm just curious. Do you are any of the shows that we mentioned the ones that you guys find the comfort in and the ones that you guys find the community in? We're gonna post this on our social

medias. Make sure you follow us on Facebook, on Instagram. You'll see some behind the scene photos, some videos, and tell us Yeah. What shows are not on our list that should be. I'd love to know because I, for sure, can share my list Yeah. From the 2 shows I normally watch. Yeah. I feel like this whole thing was a spoiler. But you know what? That's okay. Because I feel like once we get into the show, you're not gonna remember what we said. So You can spoil it. Go watch the shows. Alright,

guys. So we had Lola. Lola, thank you so much for joining us today. Having me. I had so much fun. It was so fun. So Lola is gonna be basically our pop in cohost from time to time, because she has so much to add. And, it's just fun to have another perspective, honestly. So and that's that's what we want. So show her some love as well by following her drama free mama's group. Not your mama's mom group. Yes. And that will also be in our links. You can see it there.

And let me just say, Lola and I have not met before. Okay. And she just was like, okay. Cool. I'm gonna go over to your house and, yeah. Sure. I'll talk on a podcast with you. I think Look at her. And it was like, honestly, I'm the most awkward person in the world. I will not walk up to someone and start a conversation. Anxiety? So much anxiety. I popped 2 anxiety pills before we hopped on here. I all did. I mean, Lola what? Lola?

Lola. Lola just walked into my house, and it felt natural, and it felt normal. And I was like, once we sat down in front of the mic, so I just kinda looked at her and I was like This is it. I feel like, we met before. Like, we've hung out so many times. This is normal. It feels good. Right? Yeah. It does. Yeah. Because you never hardly make friends like that. You have that in con in connection with. It's like, oh. You know, refer to our, you know, last

episode. Right. Right. Making friends in your thirties. Alright, guys. It's really nice to have y'all, and we will, talk to you soon. Bye. Bye, friends. If you like what you heard today, hit subscribe now.

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