Hello! How are you doing tonight? And welcome once again to the skeptics I kick, and now we are talking in the future. How are you doing, Cam?
I'm doing good. How are you this week?
Doing fine.
That's good. Anything exciting happen on your end of the things.
Well, I've been losing weight. I am working towards. Defeating my diabetes. Yes, applause, applause, applause working hard and hardly working and doing a lot of driving. In fact, I drove up to Al's favorite place.
Yes, I heard you went to Albuquerque. What was that like?
It was Albuquerque.
Did you take that.
Yes, I did, in fact.
Yeah, that's the interesting thing is to get to Albuquerque. You have to turn left.
Right.
Actually, you're going down, I 10, and it tells you turn left to go to Albuquerque.
Yes, yes, I found a nice little National Park right. Smack dab in the well, about a block down from where I was supposed to. take care of some business, so it was really cool.
Now somebody had told me that there's a part of Albuquerque called Old Tale. And it's supposed to be a very interesting place if we are sensitive.
Okay, yeah, I just it said, I found the national. I found a national park. It was really nice.
yes. Well, hopefully, in a few months I can take a trip that way, and we can check out some of those cool places maybe drive up to Roswell drive to Ria, do down? I think Shauna would like that, cause I've got the if it's like it was last time we went. Remember how they had the the little marketplace that was very small, and they had all the cute little shops and stuff we would. I think Shauna would enjoy that.
Yes, and also, I still think we should go back to Lincoln. Go back to
Oh, and see
Up there and see if see if Bob's still there.
Yeah, I don't think it was Fort Sumner. It was the the old jail.
Yeah.
The old jail. Yeah. But we are off topic. What are we talking about today?
So I guess we are on topic because we are talking about ghost stories of the Wild West. Part 2.
This is true.
Yes.
You.
Let me just get that little 3D effect in there. Alright. So 2 thumbs up for that. Now back back in early 2 2,022. We showed a few spooky stories over a campfire where coyotes yipped in a winds of moaned like the poor souls crawling all the way back from the days of the Wild Wild West seems to be done, promised. We had so many stories that we'd have to revisit this dust to trail at again at some point
now looks like at this time, for more ghoulies and ghosties is now. But don't you worry none. We still have plenty more house left on plumbered. so let it be at less more time, and here, at nights around the old campfire to warm your coats of hands until your souls. still coming in in the future link to that previous episode will be in our
We'll go here.
We'll go here. We'll go here.
Yeah. Somewhere. Here.
Here or over there, or maybe over there, or couldn't.
Might be up here.
Or it might be that side, or it might be smack dab in the middle. But we truly did spend some times with the Wiley villains and poor souls that it left in their wake. So how about we start off tonight with a real bang as we sided all up under the protection, the military force, and sit, and those soldiers with guns keeping us scary things at bay.
Yes, first off, let's start with Fort Riley, which is located in Kansas. Now. This was erected way back in 1852. However, back. Then it wasn't called Fort Riley. you see, originally it was slapped Dad, in the middle of of the area, I guess. Sub state. so they called it the center. I'm sorry, Cap Center. Now the powers that be named it properly before a full year had even passed. and this was to honor a local general who had recently died in the line of duty. The fourth cert.
The fort's purpose was to protect the pioneers and the traders that were headed to Oregon. California. and Santa Fe through the trails. So there was a lot of people who came in with throughout the years through this sports. Now some familiar names that you people might be aware of are, while Bill Hickok.
Yeah.
He spent some time at the fort as a scal. and this was long before his days. I'm sorry, long before his date with destiny at that poker table, down.
Now interesting to note. I I know I'm interrupting to you, but The term! A dead man's hand, which is ace aces and apes was spurned by Wild Bill Hickok, because that was his hand when he got shot.
Interesting note for all you poker players out there.
Now no one knows who brought it. In. But a short years after the ford with the fort was established. cholera broke out. Now we've discussed cholera in the past about the what might have been, what not, might not have been the the cause of vampirism or werewolfism. Now.
Think more vampires than werewolves.
Right, even though the epidemic only lasted a couple of days of the fort. It left somewhere between 75 and 125 dead in its wake. Custard's wife. who was living at the ford. The time was also When customers heard of the color cholera epidemic, he was out on a military campaign elsewhere. He promptly selected his finest men.
turned his command over to another officer, and high tilled it back to the fort as safe as he can now Libby, his wife, was waiting for him, and when he arrived, and was in still good health, but Custard's court-martialed was for deserting his unit. He was shipped to this command in the entire year because of it. Now we all know when he got his command back in time for a battle at A at the little Bighorn, but we all have have a place to cover that haunted patch of earth in the future episode.
Now back at the floor. It is said that the restless victims are to blame for the hauntings that could be found there today. Witnesses do report seeing or healing a dark group that provides galloping across the ports. Parade grounds. we say. or because it varies from person to person. Some people see it. Some people hear it. so who knows? You can see under here, and just go. Some will also see the special ride of shadowing horsemen, while others hear the sound of thundering posts.
voices raised in concern at the jingle jangle bits of the spurs. Strangely, no one has ever experienced both the apparitions and the sounds. At the same time. These special raiders are believed to be Custer's escort as they race to where their house had stood at the time one writer who could possibly find the customer himself is seen to dismount from his horse and stride towards his home by the rest of the troops right away.
Now the fourth cemetery has its shares, goes, thanks to the epidemic General Louis Armistead. who eventually died at the battle of Gates. The Gettysburg is a frequent spectre seen at night sweeping over his wife's grave. She was one of the many victims of the color cholera outbreak.
It is thought that the general still lingers at the At there, and his troops were ordered to march off to Fort Riley to escape the cholera epidemic, and fortunately they only made it 9 miles before the soldiers themselves began showing symptoms the day he and his remaining troops limped weekly and rarely back to the fort. Aristead's wife. Cornelia took his her last breath and died before he could even be reminded with her.
Those who witness this weeping forum leave behind, with a distinct feeling that the general wants nothing more than be left alone in his grief.
I don't think he wants to be left alone in his grave. I think he would more want to be reunited with his wife. What do you think.
I think maybe that, left alone with his grief.
You don't think he ever wants to see his wife again.
I don't think so.
That's kind of heartless.
No, no, not really.
I mean, think about it. If your wife passed away and you never got to see her before she passed. wouldn't you give anything to see her again?
And it all depends.
So heartless.
Maybe.
I know if my spouse passed I would definitely want to see them again. and I would be grieving till we were reunited. But I digress another color.
Digress, digress.
Another cholera victim. Miss Susan Fox lived with her stepfather. but she died alone when her father was away, and her fiance was nearby. In a town called Hongwi City. While he was there he was carrying for the sink. Now. Miss Fox herself was buried in a wedding dress that she wouldn't be worn in their wedding however. when she passed she never realized that she was no longer among the living. Now I say this because a home. That had been turned over to new residents.
We're horrified to find Miss Fox herself standing outside and pleaded to be let in. Mind you, she's dead. She's buried, she's gone all of a sudden. You hear a banging at the door? Please let me in.
Lauren later in.
She was not only accompanied by the sound of her voice, but with the horrifying shrieks and moans now evidently the Fort Commandment, tired of the complaints from these people paid for a nearby padre or priest, as we also know it, to perform an exorcism of the home. However, the sightings and the noises still continued. The house itself was finally burned down to the ground. and this was to discourage the girl from coming back.
She never! I'm sorry she no longer waits to be admitted into the home. but she can still be seen on the grounds. still wearing her wedding dress and waiting for someone or something that's only she is aware of. Thank you.
Working down the house and notice of the fact she's wearing. Oh, another woman in white.
Yes, she's wearing. She was buried in her white wedding gown. and it could be possible that she's still looking for that home, that they burn down.
Maybe.
You let in.
Yep, that may be now local. Laura also speaks of a woman who haunts what is known as quarters 1, 2, 4. The residence is said to be haunted by the ghostful woman who drowned herself in the local will. so no one knows why she killed herself. Her name has been lost in time. but she can be heard walking shortly and dragging what sounds like a heavy wooden box behind her, up and down the stairs. and exorcism at the residence con the spirit for the while.
but she was said to have returned a few years later. She has apparently fallen silent again. Has it not been reported lately?
So I wonder if she's just finally moved on.
Maybe she got whatever she was inside the box.
What's in the box? What's in the.
Oh, it's.
Sorry. Yes, maybe. She finally got the box open and was able to pass on to another another floor plane of existence. Now the nearby river claims that a womanly voice can be heard singing a melancholy 2 melancholine melancholy. I that word seems hard for me to say tonight, so.
And Carly.
Thank you. A sad tune.
Dada dada dada.
And this could be her rolling up the bank, and you know you can hear it through the thick of the trees. There are 2 schools of thoughts to where this voice could be coming from. Those who have seen the figure claim that it's a misty flat barge or ferry that appears. and it seems to be pulled through the waters by a dark womanly shape. And this this you know, see for a bit before it disappears from view.
It's also said that a man who operated the small ferry here in 18 hunt in the 18 hundreds had a female indentured person to haul it to haul the occupants from one side of the river to the other. Others claim that the haunted voice and figure belong to La Yoroda. This is a female spirit that is said to haunt various waterways in the American West. That one
is more towards like going down towards the border, I would say, because the the lot, you don't wanna. It's a very well known Mexican folklore, or actually South American folklore. I would love to go into more detail on that in another episode, because I find it fascinating. But I I definitely don't think she would be that far up North and Kansas. I think she would be more like around from the Texas border on up to the California border. What are your thoughts.
Well, I think what we're talking about. A lady that's probably been in tails toll anywhere from South Central up to the southern part of North America.
Make sense. but this once particular one that they're talking about at this river. I think it would be more of possibly like they said the the indigenous service, pulling the barge across the river, and not the other on the. Continue.
Continue about the Civil Yards have been known for those on night guard duty, witnessing a soldier on horseback, gabbling it galloping. galloping into the first stable building before disappearing from view. Before before reaching the end. With the building itself is renovated years local workers stumbled across a long deceased bones of a horse and rider hidden nearby in a ravine.
Oh, poor horsey.
Yeah, to this day. No one has any idea who the soldier or his mount was, was, or what caused their demise. was, a yet another victim of cholera. Maybe they died at patrol. Was he a victim of the latest Spanish flu epidemic that ranged across the world in the early nineteenth century or twentieth century. Perhaps he and his horse were killed during a skirmish, and were left behind
well, where they failed no one knows for certain, except for the operation himself, and so far he has remained silent about it. Maybe he was on a secret mission. That's why he's been silent about it.
Yes, you know, it's really sad that there was so many victims of the cholera and the Spanish flu. and also skirmishes and battles that happen during this time that this unknown fallen soldier we we don't know his name. We don't know who he was in life or how he passed it would be great if there was something in the records to to give this man a name and a live. But you know we just may never know. And maybe that's why he still roams is because
he's he's trying to get his story out there. He wants people to know he lived and he died.
And died.
Out for the ford itself. It does have more modern ghosts. and we will go ahead and leave those for you. Discover on your own. However, there is one that we want to mention. It's the figure of a woman wrapped in chains, who walked across the fields late at night. Now. just who is this woman, and why is it that she's wrapped in chains? That is a mystery that no one has yet to figure out again? No one seems to have a feel for just what time period she's from.
or. you know, when she lived at the forge. her time for eternal splendors, her eternal slumber is spent on a task that no one seems to know. So again, you know, maybe this is another spirit who there's no records that were kept of this poor woman and what was done to her. And again, she's wanting to get her story out there about the mistreatment she was given by being changed up like this.
Yeah, that is, She's just ghostly singing chain of fools by Ruth Franklin. Mind you.
Or maybe it's working on the chain gang.
Or maybe it's the chain of love. or maybe she maybe she's been cursed by Jacob Marley.
Maybe.
Yeah, you know that. If you ever read a Christmas carol. basically, this other Jacob Marley says we all carry chains.
Yes.
Now. Is anyone getting to us yet? Perhaps we never tell us another log and fire. I cook up some vacant and some beans.
Just make sure if you put Chili. There's no beans.
I mean, we could always always go out to the car jacket up and change the tire.
Just make sure if you make Chili there's no beans. True, Texas Chili has no beans.
I don't believe that.
Oh, that's what I've always heard. But speaking of Texas.
Now. how about we wind our way further south to the warmer grounds? Maybe stop in at Alamo? No, those hollow grounds are full of ghosts, so we've already gave it its own episode. That's just fine. Texas has more ghost stories for you to shake a stick at.
This is true.
So let's talk about the Governor's governor's mansion. You ever been to the garage merchant, Kim.
I haven't. I've always wanted to go.
I've actually parked right beside it.
Now. Governor, smashing, that's in. Where's that located.
San Antonio.
That's what I thought. But I was like, why would there be? I was like, why would there be a go like Governor's mansion in San Antonio when the capital is in Austin. But you're right. Governor's mansion is in San Antonio. I've never been in it, but we've walked past it several times in our lives.
Now fees. We, San Antonio, was actually the capital of Texas during the time of the Spanish and Mexican withholding now, according to reports, the north bedroom is haunted by a ghost of a 19 year old. Love struck young man who was burned by love and shot himself surprisingly, even though this happened back in late 18 hundreds. and his ghostly apparition immediately began making itself known. So no one needs to needs to remember, or seems to remember this boy.
or his relation to the family or the girl he was in question in love with. Some reports, say that this girl was the niece of Governor Murray's wife. other State. The boy was Governor Mirene's nephew. which could explain the Star Cross lovers lament as many no wanted cousins to marry. which seems surprisingly considered. Back in the day. Cousins marrying cousins was still considered just fine in Texas and many other States.
They didn't pass a law against the first cousin marrying each other until 2,005. There are even questions. If it was actually a gun that the young man used to kill himself. But one thing is certain, all the stories agree upon is that the tiny guest room was positively bathed in blood. In fact. stories not only say it was downright messy, but the staff also refused to clean it.
It wasn't just because the Gore, it seemed that the lover boy, immediately upon his death, started making it known that if he's grief sticking and started. but and was unable or unwilling to move on. the body itself wasn't even cold yet, and the doorknobs began rattling. Cold spots were spreading, banging sounds where some could be heard, and moans and whales were on repeat. Apparently years later another Governor. Andrew J. Hamilton. finally had the room sealed off with plaster and motor
to try to keep and muffle that disturbance. But the staff still reported with feelings of dread when working in the northern part of the mansion. Rumors say that the Mansion inventory, which left it for each new governor, including a note from the previous Governor, warning him not to instill the room. Now the room was unsealed during the renovation in the early part of the twentieth century, and favorite had it. the poor kid is still moaning and carrying out out loud enough to wake the dead.
There's nothing quite like pain from your first love now, is there.
Like, I said. I've never been in the building. but I can definitely say, you know, we've we've walked downtown quite a bit. and I remember every time passing the Governor's mansion. I always got a sense of sadness from it. and this was ever since I was a little kid, even before I knew it was haunted. But I always felt like something was there, and.
Gloomy, gloomy clue.
But I like. I said I could definitely feel a sadness about the place. and I could feel like like something was there. again. This is when we were when I was very young, and even before, you know, I had heard the story and the hauntings. But yeah. I'd definitely love to take a tour of the place, if possible, sometime. And you know. speaking of which, he's not the only spirit that's still on the government property. There are also 2 former governors that still reside within.
There's Pendleton Mura himself. and he is seen wandering around the mansion. It's as if he cannot leave his former home. even though he actually did flee the grounds and was hiding out in Mexico immediately after the Civil War ended. This can be due to politics. but it could be that, you know. It was a very harsh time back then. and it was just too hard on his help. You know the way he took off and fled to Mexico after the war.
and it was just too hard on his health, and he died very shortly after he got there. so maybe he died too soon. Maybe he really didn't want to leave, and he was forced out by his advisors. and he did miss his old home. or it could be. He felt guilty about that poor kid Whaley upstairs, and he blocked off the room so that nobody could hear it. But who really knows?
Nap. Now the famous Texas governor, Sam Houston. is also said to haunt these hallowed halls ousted from the mansion back in 1861 for refusing to swear an oath to the Confederate States. His coast can be seen a ground of beautiful 4 poster bed, and be installed in the southeast bedroom of the mansion. He is. Yeah.
This is supposed to be he he had installed.
Well, it says B.
Yeah, but it makes more sense. Tea.
But 4 poster bed that be at installed in the northeast bed southeast bedroom of the mansion he is frequently seen, but disappears if he tries speaking to him. guest did. The governor just wants to have a nap, and does not want to be bothered.
Yeah. I don't know. I always thought if if Sam Houston is being very. very kind of, you know, quiet, very studious, not really one not really a rough house or not really one to to cause a scene more like, you know. That would be more towards Crocket or Bowie, but I always thought of him being, you know, very reserved. So that would make sense that he he would want to be left alone even in death. What do you think.
I think he really wanted to be. he's just tired.
He's he said he had a long life. That's true.
Yeah.
A lot of a lot of war in his life. Now there is also a poor maid that is known to be looking into the mansion. It said that she was impregnated out of wedlock. and this was by somebody who lived in the mansion. You know it could be that she just wants to be back into the mansion exonerated from her indiscretion. Or maybe she's just waiting for the father to admit that he is the dad and take acknowledgement of his child. You know, and do right for her and the child again. We we may never know.
We may never know. But maybe you need something a little bit more. Answer all that weeping and wailing. Now in Ballinger, Texas. there is a Gonzales restaurant that serves up the text. Mix along the side of an outlaw. the outlaw whose name, like so many others, have been lost to me history ran a foul with the Texas Rangers while running around Ballinger. Who's that name?
Because he's ducking into a saloon. The outlaw drew his gut fire in the Rangers. Fire killing him. Industry, times change, prohibition hits and the saloon becomes a department store and eventually becomes a restaurant. The desperados new found. Noridi isn't for his old lawless ways, nor is it how he frequently seen within the restaurant and Phil Regalia making cold spots and moving the salt shakers and dinner wear around.
Apparently Norton, as the locals call him, is known for saving the place from a fire after the cook left the oven on overnight. It seems he even appeared to the cook since then to remind him not to make that same mistake again. though we have yet to record of either incident. He's also renowned for walking through the walls in order to spoof the inspecting and to give waitresses a pinch on the bottom. Every now and then.
Well, you know it does seem like Norton's making the most out of his slice of eternity. Now you got me wanting some enchiladas and some good old text. Mix food, thanks.
Hmm we were planning to go up to go across to Lubbock this weekend. But I was hoping for some some Texas barbecue instead.
Texas Barbecue, Texas. They're both right up there on my list.
So definitely. So let's go ahead and hang around with the Long Star State, and let's just hop over to New Mexico. Land of enchantment. Take a peek at those spooky humps. The St. James Hotel in Cimarron. not to be confused with simmer, but simmer was built by Harry Lambert in 1872.
There's been a plenty of shootouts during that heyday and dining room. Ceilings still have 22 bullet holes in the ceiling that can be seen even today plenty of Wild West outlaws made their way through the Cimarron and St. James itself, including Jesse, James. Billy Kid, and the so-called gentleman, Gunfighter Clay Allison and Bob Ford. the currently killer of Jesse James, has said to done some of its killing on its own property. Buffalo Bill bit time here, as was Annie Oakley and White Earp.
along with a trained bandit known as Blackjack Ketchum. More. I'll catch him in a moment.
Little side note. Our great, great, great, great, great, great grandmother was Annie Oakley. But was it a great aunt.
I think you're talking about our great great aunt was Bell Star.
Bell Star. That's right, Annie Oakley Bell Star. I get those 2 confused. But you're right. Yeah, probably cut that out then. did you know, speaking of some of these names that you mentioned here, they're making a young guns. 3. Yep. How are they? Gonna make a young guns? 3. They all died at the end of young guns. 2.
It's supposed to take play. It's supposed to go into the Brushy Bill controversy.
Interesting. Have to check that out. So this is, of course.
So you know who's who's actually coming back.
Who's that?
It's actually coming back with
Amelia.
Emilio and Chavez. Yes, Chavez.
So it would have to be later in in Billy the Kid's life then, because well, no, because Billy the Kid died young, and I mean.
And yeah. and Keefer.
Yeah, but they're all old now. How can they play their characters that they played when they were young? Billy the Kid died, I think before he was 30, and he's now in his 60 s.
Brushy Bill was in his eighties when he
Now is this the the controversy that Billy the Kid actually wasn't killed?
there's actually 3 or 4 different people. They brush your bills, the closest but there's actually, 3 or 4 different people, that step forward and say, I'm gonna leave the kid.
Interesting. I'd like to check that out, but we have gotten way off topic. I apologize with my Adhd. We were talking about the St. James Hotel. Now continuing on with the St. James Hotel. Visitors can stay in rooms named after these notorious deaths. But yet it's mostly the victims that still haunt the place. The St. Joe's. The St. James boasts that there are more than 26 murders within its walls. and none of the dearly departed. Want to leave
most actively in the hotel is haunted by the gambler TJ. Wright. and he was murdered, attributing a winning hand at poker and he tried to claim the hotel as part of his weddings. The current owners talk about hearing the sounds of party atmosphere in the lobby. This includes people talking. glasses clinking. but nobody is seeing. The sound does seem to appear just sorry the sound seems to disappear when the owner approaches.
Not wanting to interrupt. The owner claims that, she told the ghostly group. I'm glad you're having a good time. I'm glad you're here for a party. Please leave everything as good as you found it, if not better. With that she turned and walked away. and as she did so the party resumed. now she was pretty convinced that if it wasn't Mr. Wright celebrating his winnings, perhaps it was some other former clients out for an evening of fun.
Now the hotel itself has a series of renofated rooms, allowing a museum like atmosphere, with photographs hanging in the hall for more notorious clientele. The owners claim that most spooky action can be laid in the feed of 3 spirits, though we aren't quite sure what they have common. Up to this information TJ. Wright Winter. The deadly hand, is known for locally as simply as 18. However, since this reading show that he was still alive and kicking in Albuquerque long after his supposed lives.
18 can apparently can apparently be quite testy, for the owners now keep this room blocked with a face. Flowers sitting in front of the door to keep guests for trying to take a peek. 18 is said to have retained. re retailed against the retaliated, allowing their their shift to stay overnight in rooms that try and catch a glimpse of the gambler
his revenge. Apparently one owner, pet birds, was found dead the next morning, although in autopsy on this tiny court revealed that there was no cause of death. Stories say, however, that the whenever the 8 team gets out of hand, that the chef is often sent to his room as 18 simply seems to like the guy. and the chef is the only one who gets the wily spirit to calm down.
Now, what I'm wondering is, could this be 2 different things? It could either be one. After Tj. Wright died he. his spirit returned to the hotel because of the fact of he enjoyed it there, I mean he he wanted to take the hotel in in his winning. So obviously he liked the place. So maybe after his death in Albuquerque he went back. or it could be what do you call it? When a ghost is created by people's stories, and it's like the stories create the entity.
So it could be either one of those series. What do you think? Good now for the chef? Of course I mean, talk about job security. You know they're gonna fire. You with 18 likes. You.
Yep.
We also have Mary. and this spirit was named after Mary Lambert. She was the wife of the original owner. She is said to live in her old room. and we'll sometimes venture out into the hallways, but mostly you will only know that she's there from the scent of her distinct perfume. and this comes and goes. She also makes herself known to the guests by staying in her room. and she likes to have her windows closed.
So. you know, if you we're trying to open them, she tries to keep them shut, so it's a struggle to open them. If you do succeed in opening them, however. she will start wrapping at the room second story window, insisting that you close the windows. and this will continue on until the window is shut completely. However, in gratitude, she will reduce the temperature in the room to accommodate. if you ask her to. Now again the perfume that could be
I don't know could be somebody walking by, and they're sent lingers, and then you come in and you smell it. And you think, oh, that must be Mary. It would depend on how distinct that smell is that you could say that? Oh, well, nobody here. Where's that sent, I mean, how do you really know. Are you gonna go knocking on every door? Excuse me, are you bringing this perfume? Excuse me, do you have this hint of lavender in your perfume, or maybe it's a hint of
of I don't know. Give me another sent garden. Yes. You never know.
Who knows? But up with now, earlier we did mention about the known gunfighting outlaw blackjack catch him? Well, his tell is right hard to swallow. it seemed Thomas catch him and his brother Sam decided the life of crime was more to their liking than being honest men. At first they stayed in their native Texas, breaking in and looting stores at night, and basically just making trouble before they moved into robbing payroll trains across the New Mexico territory.
Now you did miss the third amp. which is like.
I did miss it. Let me go back and take a look at that imp, because the third spirit. the hemp, is apparently a practical joker who likes to adjust lamps, make off with pens and calculators, and pull jars of pickles from the shelves and roll them out over the kitchen. Now the Imp. This is said to have only been seen once by a newly hired 15 year old boy.
This poor team was sent to vacuum the carpets at the bar, and he looked up to see a dwarf sitting at the bar, his feet propped up on the neighborhood, still and laughing at the boy. The boy was so unnerved he went straight home, got his mother, and had her stand nearby to make sure that the dwarf. of whom she couldn't see, didn't do anything more than just sit there. As soon as the boy finished the task he assigned to him that day, he probably quit never to return to that hotel.
Now 15 year old boy sees the spirit. Nobody else is seen.
Yep.
Do you really think he saw the spirit. or do you think working was harder than what he thought it would be, and was looking for a way out of that job.
Oh, we're talking about lazy kids these days, right.
You never know.
Yeah.
I mean, there's always been lazy kids, I mean, that's it fits me human nature. But we can't say for sure if the St. James is truly haunted.
Right.
However. there have been many paranormal investigators that were brought in. you know. It just seems a bit odd that none of these so-called sightings happened until after it was purchased in 1985. However, what do we know? We can?
You know that.
We know nothing. but we can honestly admit that we have yet to set foot in the place to see for ourselves again. Yeah, publicity, stunt. actual hauntings. things to make you go.
Pain to make you go. Hmm!
Nil back to old. Catch them, blackjack, catch them! Yep. Now these brothers had no problem shooting. Those who either got in their way or the posse that was sent to hunt them down. They spend time as part of their own game, with members coming and going as they please. There was even a time where they joined up with Bitch Cassidy and the Hole in the Wall boys. The brothers went separate ways from time to time. but they always seem to find one another again.
It does seem, though, on one of their separations that Sam and some boys tried to repeat the success of the actions actions Topeka and Santa Fe Payroll train. and there was a shootout that occurred. Sam was wounded in the shoulder. and slowly the gang. I'm sorry Sam was wounded in the shoulder, and it slowed the gang down. So he left for a local ranch where the posse eventually found him. He ended up dying shortly after for blood poisoning. and this caused an infection.
Yep, it could have like I said it could have happened. Anybody.
But it happened to good old Sam.
Sam, who had shot in the shoulder and died of lead poisoning.
Elmer.
Yeah. Now, Blackjack, who had earned his name by once being as taken for another outlaw by a blackjack, either did not know of a Sam's demise, or was out there wanting to seek revenge. But he did, however, try to ambush the same rail line at the very same water exchange that his brother had and did on his own with basically the same resort. The conductor, now weary of bandits, was armed and managed to shoot blackjack in the elbow, not at him, clean off the saddle.
Upon reaching town the conductor informed the local posse where he had last seen Blackjack, and sure enough. The next morning Black Jack was still lying there next to the tracks and slowly bleeding out. Now Black Jack was tossed onto a back for horse and hauled off to be treated. During that time he winds up, having his arm amputated, and is allowed to recuperate while awaiting his trial. My gosh! It sounds like the the worst outlaw ever
now unsure of what to do with his bandits. The locals decide. The best thing to do is to simply hang the man, but hey, at least they gave him time to recover from his wounds. First.
Well, yeah, I mean, you know, cruel and unlawful punishment.
Yeah.
You you you can't just torture the guys. You gotta take care of them before you kill them.
Don't want.
Suffer!
Yeah, suffer, suffer, suffer.
The evening before it is hanging. The locals decided to test a gib, a chiplet that they had slapped together. I'm sorry. Give it not Triplet. Giblets are on foods, some kind of food. as one had never legally been hung in the Territory before. You can hardly but blame them for wanting to to test it out and make sure everything was right. And you know you had a hundred 50 tickets sold to this hanging. So you want to make sure everything goes right. So people get what they pay for.
Some people used to bring lunches.
now the stiff rope used was not the right kind. but black poor blackjack.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh! He had.
Like, I said, this is coming out to turn out to be the worst outlaw ever.
He had taken advantage of these regular feedings that they were giving him and exercising while he recovered. So good for Butt, Jack, you know they're gonna let you heal up. So take advantage of that. Eat well, exercise, get yourself healthy.
Aye.
So, anyway, during this time he did gain some weight, and you know they they tested the line with about 215 pounds of sack tied to the rope, because they're thinking. You know. he's got to weigh about that much by now. Sure enough. you know, when they were testing with the with the bag of sand. The trap door opened like it was supposed to, and the rope hill. you know they were really satisfied that this was looking well for their and you know, for the people coming to watch this hanging.
and you know they headed home happiest cams. but they failed to untie the heavy weight from the rope. So you know. it was still there, swaying in the wind that kicked up the oncoming rainstorm.
Now, if you think that the ring was gonna stop by hanging. Yes, again. The following morning Blackjack ate his final breakfast and jointly told the sheriff they need to get a move on, as he wanted to reach hail at time for supper. He even joked for the crowd as he's bound up the stairs to a waiting news, telling him that. Be sure they bury me deep, boys. Now there's a bit of a wait. Once he reached the top of the scaffold as he asked for the black hood
which had procured and removed. Once the hangman realized the extremity of the stiff rope. now freed of its bag. could hardly be bent to loop over his head. Poor Blackjack's head, covered, had to be removed while, and men struggled to get his head in the news. By the time the blacks news was back on his head or Black Hood, I'm sorry Blackjack was more than ready to to go. Let a rip! He shouted. and so they did.
And rip. It did. meaning the rope. stiff as wire, was not only too long for someone of Blackjack's height. but it had to cleanly slap his neck. So when you hang, basically, you know the rope supposed to snap your neck, and that's how you die. Yep. However, this didn't happen.
Yep.
Instead, onlookers were stunned to see. The body lay cleanly on its feet. standing there for a couple of minutes, swaying like a jizy before collapsing to the ground. and the rip. sadly to say that was poor Black Jack's head being ripped clear off his body.
Oh, almost like Saddam Hussein.
You see, freeze with the weight of the body. The head was caught within the black hood that no one that now became essentially a back holding it. and it bounced on the end of the line with enough force to launch it back in the year. This went through the trapdoor and landed deeply on the planks for all the world to see as a bag blue jar with the blood witnesses. All looked in horror as the body finally collapsed and spewed out crimson fountain of blood.
Blackjack's head sat just jauntingly on the platform. as if it had decided that at the last minute no, it would rather not meet back up with the remains below.
Hmm! Why does that sound nice?
So what? That text? Max.
Yeah, sure. Do.
That Mark takes this barbecue.
Oh, yeah. did he blink, looking through blind eyes at the darkness when the hood no one knows, and it said he died instantly, but witnesses from from beheadings by the guillotine have long claimed that the eyes blink and moving lips with words that longer have a voice to speak.
Yeah, it's the nurse jerking. The crowd certainly did get their money's worth that day. and the town made sure to photograph the headless corpse lying it beneath the gibbet where the where it had landed. Now this is the the interesting part, or hmm more like morbid part.
This is this, is this is not.
This is.
Yeah.
This is pretty morbid. They actually sold those pictures as a macabre souvenir on postcards.
Ok.
So how would you like that? You're you're sending out your postcard. Say, you have your your relative in New York, and you're sending them a postcard, dear. Not so, and so loving it here in town. Hope you are well. And then on the back of the foot is a picture of this body. How my job or morbid is that.
As kind of the. It's having a wonderful time. Wish you were here.
That's bad.
It's bad. alright. So poor Blackjack went down in history for several reasons, not just for his heads outstanding acropolics and performance, but because he was the last person to be sentenced to hang by his peers in New Mexico territory. He is also known as the only outlaw to hang anywhere from merely trying to rob a train.
Yes, it turns out that several years later New Mexico, when it became a State the Senate support blackjack was actually determined to be illegal. but you know there was no way to like bring justice about it, because he had been long since dead. Maybe I mean, was Sam, his only relative. Do you not have any other relatives that they could have paid retributions to for this happening to Port Sam.
Sam! But Sam had died, but.
You know I'm sorry you're not saying blackjack. I mean. I'm sure something could have been done if he had some family left over.
Yeah. So you know, who knows but at least the town paid for his head to be stitched on after the falls were taken. So the curious town folk could look on his dead body decently in one piece. which is ironic, considering that the dismembered him for burial, making it easier to carry his heavy corpse up to the grave. While waiting on top of the hill.
My gosh! That poor blackjack.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is the worst worst outlaw.
Wow! This was gruesome. Does it truly count as a ghost story? Well, there just so happens to be a person who claims that they've seen poor Blackjack since his death. Maybe he was looking for his head. Maybe he was looking for other parts of his body.
Where's my head? Where's my head?
This testimony did come from a 14 year old Boy Scout.
Oh, you can always stress voice, gap.
Right. It seems that the Fill Knot Scout Ranch contained with its borders one of Black Jeff's old hollydocks. In the year, in many years since his death the ranch became the place where scouting groups from all over came for weeks of hiking, camping, and wilderness training. It was on one of these outings that the master told the stories of blackjack upon their hike in the cave. The cave itself turned out to be rather disappointing, and there was nothing left inside but rocks.
Once you specifically can't flag. I still think it'd be cool to check out Kay. But that's just me.
And hmm.
However, for these poor campers it was more disheartening that the Count. the scoutmaster, insisted that the boys camp at a designated campsite rather in the hideout. I can understand that, being a disappointment, man, I'd be like. Let's let's camp here. However.
No, no, no, kids, we don't. Wanna ho! There may be bats definitely. Bats.
Or bears.
Are bears.
Or or
Are pew, but.
Yes, yeah. Not mine.
PMS.
Pumas, mountain lions, you know, wherever you're at. I forget what we call them here in Texas. But I regret digress if you know what they call into Texas again. Let me know, because I know it's not a mountain, something else.
Humor.
Now. Pima's somewhere else. Anyway, I'm I'm getting off topic. If you know, leave in the comments, or if I find out, I'll leave it in the comments. But boys being boys. a group of the scouts did wait until their others scouts fell asleep. and they grabbed their bags and they snuck off to spend the night in the cave.
Stump, scout master.
They woke up a few hours later upon hearing noises coming from the brush outside the cave again could have been outlines could have been bats, bears, wolves, coyotes. but they heard noises in the brush outside. Now they have lit a fire, and the coals had burned low. so they watched. According to them. a cowboy came running out from behind the cover of the trees lit by the full moon. Part of the count did seem solid. but in other parts the voice could see right through his body parts.
You know. That can be, you know, great. They just remembered the poor guy that makes sense.
Right.
Part of it was solid. Part of them wasn't.
You know I dismember you.
But you know the boys watched in horror as the man grew newer. and you know they could not move or make a sound. Basically they were so freaked out by all of this.
So you know, the story goes that In the moonlight the terrible scouts could clearly see a man's face and clothing, and the man drew near that the boys could even see the yellowing of his teeth as he's looked down back in the direction he had just come from our Volvo at the man's hand shown in the light of the scouts, heard voices shouting just out of sight.
The sounds of gunfire filled the air with figures left off 6 shots in return before running towards the terrified scout. Another shot rang out, and the apparition clutched his arm and came a stop next to the boy, seeming unaware of the scouts camping there. The Phantom managed this empty the spent shell casings from his gun, and had just begun reloading before his final case casting, hit the boy sleeping back, and disappeared from sight. That could have been Sam.
Once again the ghosts began firing into the trees, while the boy stared in horror as the bloody, dripping hole from his man's spectral shoulder.
That would have been Sam cause Sam was off the shoulder. The blackjack was shot in the and alcohol. Yeah. So yeah. So they saw, so they didn't even see Black Jack. They saw Senior.
Sam.
Now something about the scout apparently caught the man's attention, and he spun his revolver raised to the boy's head. After a few moments of silence the scout was watched. This I'm sorry. The scout watched as the man lowered his gun in confusion. and he said. You're not supposed to be here. and then he disappeared. The scout, too, frightened. you know, and not believing what he just saw, maybe he drinks the entire episode remain awake for hours before he was able to go back to sleep.
By the time the sun came up his companions had to shake him to get him awake. and then they'd had to sneak back to their tents to the cap. He managed to get his story out of what just happened in the night, while the boys began rolling their sleeping bags, making sure that their campfire was extinguished as our scout moves up. I'm sorry, is there? Scat? Ugh! Tong! As her scout moves to roll up his sleeping bag. He spots 6 shell casings the cowboy had dropped, laying in the jerk beside him.
Interesting.
Yeah. fellow scouts accused him of playing a big joke on him, but no one thinks much of when the boy gathers up to spend casings and sneak back into camp. It's a couple of weeks before the boys time at the ranch had come to an end, and they headed back home. Our scout is there able to look up a picture of what Black Jack Kitchen looked like. Surprised. The image showed the very man the boy claims, had pointed a gun to his head.
At some point he shows the casings to a friend's father, who happened to be an antique weapons at work. Stud. The expert confirmed. The casings were indeed from the 18 hundreds. The type of gunpowder used back then was apparently a different mix than what it's used today. and the scent from the original gunpowder is still strong on the casings themselves. He is then told by Expert that no one has ever seen old spent casings look like in mid condition like these were.
Again, though if Black Jack and Sam were brothers they would. I mean, it's very possible that they look very similar. I mean, I've been told that I look a lot like you, and I've been told I look a lot like Scott. so you know being related. It is very possible that he got Sam mixed up with
blackjack, especially if he was like that, terrified. I mean, you know you don't get a good look, and you just see somebody who looks like them, and you're like, Oh, that's who it was. But I still say, Sam, you shot the shoulder. It was Sam.
Yep.
Now the Scott does, claims that he kept the cases hidden away. However, after he moved out of his parents house. his mother does come across him and throw them away. Question now. is our scouts? Is our scout telling the truth? Or is this just another call tail to come out of the West. After all. ghost stories do have a way of sprouting up and taking on the life of their realm. The scal. I love us, you know, unlike other such yarns.
does not hesitate to name himself in the account when he wrote it up years later. Take it to leave it. He doesn't really seem to care. but that does say a lot that he hasn't tried making money or earning any notoriety off his story.
Yeah. Now, as we're going retired to Mexico. how about we hop over the border to Utah? Turns out. And what could be an episode. It's all that owned the States of Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, and New Mexico, connected by a North South highway known as 4 91 locals have to remember locals, however, still remember the road. Was it its original denomination? Highway 6, 66, renamed in 1993. As the road signs kept being stolen by pranksters.
The so called Devil's Highway was the spur from its original highway. 666 had its name also changed to 491 and 2,003.
No highways. More recent claims include a girl. Another girl in White lady in white.
Hmm! We have so many of those.
Yes, and it, she said, to travel along the desolate desert rose and disappears when motorists pull over to offer her a ride. It's also said that skin walkers are said to appear as wild animals in the road. These skill walkers force the drivers to swarming crash. or are they real animals, just, you know. driving along, they see the headlights. They freeze like a deer in the headlights. What do you think.
Hmm! There with headlights.
Now. should the driver manage to keep his will on the wheels on the road? this genwalker would appear in their backseat. Okay, so maybe it's not a dear caught the headlights as they appear in the vaccine, and this, you know, does seem to terrify the driver, and they have a horrible accident. You also got your Ufo stories there. He also I also talk about hellhounds with sharp teeth. glowing red eye, or I'm sorry. Glowing yellow eyes
again. What color! A dog size from the like sitting. Come on, people think about it. Tailhouse with sharp teeth. Coyotes, wolves! Hello. but people also report that they lose chunks of time. you know. Some even go to say that they're unseen for days. Eventually they end up reaching their destination with no idea how they've gotten there. and don't even realize that they were listed upon among the missing people. So that you're asking yourself. why are we mentioning this?
Well, stories of the highway even pre-day the highway itself? This includes rumors of horrific happenings going back to pioneer times. Curious! Now you want to know more. Let us know, and maybe we'll go into depth on a later episode about the infamous highway. 6, 6.
Now you would think that the State that's constantly remembering bias religion. That settled it, that the stories around the Great Lake Salt Lake would be somehow not supernaturally spooky. but yet they are 2 distinct stories come to mind. Firstly, Antelope Island, which sits within the lake itself. The Island. Now, though a State park was originally settled by Rancher Fielding, Gar. With structure still standing, dating, dating, dating back to 1848.
The building that still stands are said to be fairly creepy, but the woods between the ranch and the shoreline can actually hold a paranormal in thrall. Stories are often rumored of the ranch, and who like to hunt children or hurt children. though they certainly have yet to be verified. Other investigations believe that the haunting in the woods is more modern in occurrences, and not all related to the rancher or his family's. Within these trees, however. dark shapes have been seen moving.
and within you will stumble across a depression in the ground with a great rock in the middle. Almost if, and the stone has been forcibly pulled into the earth at some point someone built a bench by the depression, and if you say they're too long, mysterious scratches will appear on you the moment they do. It is said that negative energies attach and start making you feel sick. But shapes in the trees are not uncommon out in Antelope Island.
which shows and holds a lot of diverse wildlife, including the largest forms of bison and antelope. Small noises and moving branches without wind, are often said to be simply be porcupines or hunting owls. However. this alone isn't what makes. And Telope Island that spooky.
Now, in 1862, a drifter wandered into town. and he found work as a grave digger turns out that Jean Baptiste was robbing the bodies of those he was supposed to be looking over. and he would bury their clothes in jury. I'm sorry he was supposed to be burying their clothes and jury. but he was taking it for himself. It took years before he was finally discovered. and upon his arrest the authority, the authorities found his home filled with caskets that were broken into.
and they he used them as kindling. Hundreds of children's clothes and shoes were stacked in piles, though baptized. A hat. you know. was. I'm sorry. Baptiste and his simpleton common-law wife. had no kids of their own. Sorry. Lost my track there. Yeah. There was also hero suits found, and jewelry anything that he dug up made its way into its filthy hubble of a home. The bodies simply tumbled naked into the cold black earth.
Now as punishment. The police branded the words, I robbed the graves on the Baptist forehead. and both of his ears were severed before he was banished from society and hauled out to animal violence again. Cruel and unusual punishment. People. Jeez. anyway. So they left him alive. They branded him, took his ears, and throw them on the island. and the severity of these injuries. Where do you to? The sheriff was so mad because he just married his daughter.
and this caused a revulsion in him at what Baptist had done. So that's the reason that you know the sheriff did such cruel, unusual punishment on him, because, you know, it could have been very it. It was very inevitable. That artist, yes, had done this to his own, to the sheriff's daughter screen. So you know that, plus the anger that the families had had gotten due to finding out that Baptist did this to their family members in the past.
You know that that's why they why, they claimed that they did such a horrific thing to baptize.
Just leaving it. A little bit of darkness in there. little sounds of silence.
Yes.
So why did they banish him to envelope Antlope Island? One story says that he was left with 2 brothers on the Antelope Island. who were to row him to a nearby Fremont Island. The 2 brothers had some cattle out there in Fremont, and were familiar with the rocky approach. Another version is, authorities left him on Antelope Island, but the drop that year lowered the level of the lake enough for Baptist to wade back to Maitland.
You know, it really isn't that surprising thinking of the late late dropping of that far. The high at the highest level. So lake is only about 14 to 33 feet. So with such shallow waters, the lake levels can quickly change temperature as it fluctuates dumb. You know there's not much water left exposed to the airport evaporating.
So you know, version, one does claim that Baptiste was quickly spotted upon reaching the mainland, and then hauled out even further into the lake to Fremont Island, which is a far more remote, and you know not as nearby with resources that they may have available before.
Now, basically, whichever you hear baptize was eventually left of a Fremont, which is a desolate rock, with nowhere to hide on its exposy rocky serve except for a small shack that was falling apart.
Few weeks later the authorities did go out to check on Boute's. and they found his rough shelter dismantled with a slaughtered cow nearby. But there was no signs of the man himself. It seemed that maybe Baptiste had tried to leave. you know, as part of the shaft could be used to build a raft. However, that didn't make sense, because somehow baptize had found and killed account before he skilled and delayed it. He would have had food to get by with. but none of it had been neat.
Did he, perhaps did he perhaps realize that he had no way out and no way to cook the owning before it raw. I'm sorry. and he just didn't want to eat it raw. He could have tried to preserve it, you know, using the salty lake to Brian and cure it. but you know his limited resources of fresh water would have made it difficult to choke the meal down. To begin with.
Woo! Woo! Now unable to swim, and the waters around Fremont, too, d for him to cross from something either took Baptist or he risked his life, tried to escape must have been sudden, or surely he would have taken some strong, some sort of meat with him. Strangely enough, although the authorities had searched the island thoroughly. It wasn't until years later that a skeleton wearing a ball in chang irons were found on the island. By this time no one remembered if Baptiste
had been left wearing leg irons, or were they abandoned him out there? But what had body was found when authorities landed.
You know. Perhaps he had somehow found a place to hide. and then eventually died. No one really knows, for sure as the body itself. Well, there were no carnivores on the island. so how is it that the body in the leg irons at was that one into the islands while his skull was 6 miles away, on the far side of the island. Did the shepherd's brother take revenge on Baptiste for the death of their cow? If that was the case, you would think they would have collected the meat.
though the cows hide was never found. Skin Walker.
Do.
How Baptist somehow managed skin and filet the carcass is anyone's guess. Given the lack of records from time from the time there was no one who can even say what happened to the remains that were found. Were they buried with or without his head? Stories all insist that Baptiste was alive and sporting his head when he left. I'm sorry when he was left on Fremont. so what then? Removed it? And why was it the skin locker? Was it an alien.
Oh, with the freshly with a freshly slaughtered cow nearby. What predator would even want to remove the head, let alone go, try to cough with it again. There are no predators on the island except for wild birds, and a bird would have gone first for the eyes and then through the sockets into the brain. There was no need for someone to remove and then carry the head off elsewhere.
By the time the body broke down enough for the head to have been attached, all soft tissue would have left been long gone, and therefore no interest to birds, or even the Ca corn of ours.
Could it be possible that there were high winds that maybe blew through and broke the head off this the skeleton, and carried it through the brush.
Maybe.
Let's see if the body itself wasn't scattered about, but it looks as if it had just laid down and expired. Hungry birds pulling fresh flesh from the bone would have spread the remains around a bit. Stories insist that the body and skull didn't even seem to belong to one another. Given, there was difference in sizing. and which really messes the story up. however, regardless of where you hear it all, insist that Baptiste did indeed exist.
and was sentenced to die of exposure on the barren hook of rock. Okay, so that's really interesting that if you look at the head and the body, it's possible that they couldn't be of separate people. So where's Baptiste's head? And where's the body to the fed? They found? Yeah, that makes it even more interesting.
Yes, but maybe you could roll out and ask ask him yourself as the ghost, it seems, still be wondering. The shores of the island thankfully, still wearing his head.
Wondering about that. Maybe he assumed to weigh out Judgment Day to find out where his black and soul state lies.
Alright. Well, maybe now, while partners, the fire has died down and the coals of marshmallows and cocoa have long disappeared, decided to come to wide thanks down for the evening. Catch up with us. Next time we'll discuss all the fun Ins, and out of the flat Earth conspiracy.
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My favorite story. Black Jack.
Or Black Jack.
Yes.
He just went through the ringer.
Yep.
Yes. these were definitely a little darker than the stories we read last episode. Again. We will link that I would have to say, I do like the story of the little dwarf sitting there watching the Kid clean. The floor would have been even more interesting if the door was like you missed a spot. But anyway, I hope you all have a wonderful night. We look forward to you joining us again for the flat Earth conspiracies.
Yes.
And sweet dreams. Everybody.
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