Hello! and welcome once again to the skeptic psychic tonight's a very special topic trigger warning. We will be discussing a very, very famous Catholic priest will, which which will have overtones of Ca Catholicism. So with me tonight is a such a wonderful host, guest! Greatest thing in the whole world. third only. To my wife and my mother. Kimber Rodriguez.
Hey! How are you this week.
I'm doing fine. How are you doing.
Doing good. As you mentioned, there is a lot of religious overtone in this tonight's episode. Does a trigger warning? We are not endorsing it. It's just part of the history of the story. So you know. Listen. if you like. If you wanna skip this one, you know we totally get it. But anything exciting happened with you this past week.
Not this past week, but next this upcoming week. September twenty-fourth until April the second, as a very exciting week for me.
You mean? March 20, fourth.
Yeah. March 20, fourth to April second.
What's happening during that week.
That is the week in Christianity which I personally believe in. in which the final days of Jesus happens. Palm Sunday starts tomorrow, and then that whole week leads up to Good Friday.
Oh, so you're talking about Holy Week!
Well, not to me. I don't delete I don't call it Holy Week. I just call it my favorite holiday.
interesting! Well, I did. While I was waiting for you this evening I came across an interesting article. that I you know this is something in nature that's natural, but it's still kind of strange, and out there, and rarely seen. So I thought it would fit since we are, you know the skeptics I kick anyway The article is from Kwx, which is out of Waco, Texas, and, as you know, Waco, that's where our daddy was born.
Well, Steve Martin, and Dr. Pepper.
Yes. But anyway, this article is actually.
And maybe dusty. I'm not too sure.
Yeah, I think he was born to Waco, too, I think. But yeah, this article, even though it was written by a local news station in Waco. It actually takes place on Mustang Island, which is off the coast of Corpus Christi.
Christy yep.
And what this article talks about is a strange spaghetti monster that spotted washing up on shore.
No, not the strange spaghetti monster.
Yes, that's a phone.
Going to do.
Now as opposed to what we know as a religion of the spaghetti monster, where they wear the strainers on their head. This is an actual sea creature that is similar to the Portuguese man of war. And it's actually a colony of animals that live together as one and each and I'm sorry. lost my train of thought was still thinking of the strangers on their heads.
Yes, the great spaghetti muster. They have to wear their special strainers.
Yes, but this one. It is very similar to a jellyfish, as it does have tentacles that can sting. So if you are on the beach right now, as it is spring break, and you happen to see this creature. Just go ahead and admire it from the distance. Don't get up close, but
Come with this dance.
I would.
You might not get stuck.
I will!
So am I, Bernie, yet for you.
No, you're fine, but I will post that on our website, since it is something that is strange and obscure, even if it is a true animal. and yeah, it is spring break right now. So I'm avoiding South Padre Island with, you know, at all costs, because it is one of the top 10 spring break destinations in the country. It has been swarmed by not aliens. Not strange. Well, sort of strange creatures, but college kids. So yeah.
Don't want to get into the one of those encounters right now, you know, you might not be able to find our way back.
Nope now to now. Didn't find the way back. But anyway.
Let's get into a nice topic.
Yes. now for those of you who say, Oh, my gosh! It's St. Patrick's Day! Saint Patrick was the one who drove up the snakes in Ireland. Guess what? That's only a myth and a legend. Tonight we're going to tell you who exactly what, exactly and how exactly St. Patrick saved the the aisle known as Ireland.
Yes. Would you like to start us off? Oh, great brother.
Oh, sure, I'm the Great Brother now.
You're always the Great Brother.
Alrighty. So going into the Saint Patrick is celebrated for a good half of the planet. obviously in Ireland, but also in the United States. Australia, Canada, Russia, Singapore, Japan, Argentina, Croatia, India, Malaysia, Monthly, Musterate, Norway, Spain, South Korea. Switzerland, Turkey, and the United Arab emigrants, and the Uk. Let us also not forget. Say, Patrick's day is also celebrated differently, but also in Mexico. Now to think about it, what do you really know about the holiday
for one Irish. It's a national holiday. and what with a true meaning of purpose. So why is the rest of the world uses this as an excuse to wear green and eat corn, beef, and cabbage. which also down large amounts of green beer with water, set a saw Caribbean Island, only 16 meters long and 11 kilometers wide. Consider this an important holiday as well. Well. let's start off with the ancient homeland of Ireland. and the arrival of one set scared British teenager, most likely named methane suket.
May win, second.
Yeah.
It went suck it. Yeah.
Maiwan Suket. He was born at the end of the Roman error which they ruled over the the Britana, and the year of 3 87 Ad. Some scholars suggest he lived in the birds birds so wild. Bruce Swalde. some 20 miles from Highway, so Hadrian's wall in northern England. though he was most likely born in Scotland or Wales. His father was a deacon in the Catholic Church, and his grandparent was a priest. though Maidwin
had no affinity one way or the other towards God. At that time that family was well off enough, and he was lived in a comfortable life.
Now what is known about Patrick comes from the writing called Confessor Cadetio. Confess to you, thank you. Confess 0. And this was probably more than likely written by Patrick himself. He doesn't give any other name other than Patrick. so there is no indication as to why he chose that particular name. Only reason that we can suggest
or suspect suggests. The only reason we can suspect his name and was may win, is because he does mention the names of occupations of both his father and grandfather in Britain. given historians a chance to track him down through his lineage. Now, according to Patrick's confessio. when he was about 16 he was in a rating party. and this was a party of Irish pirates that had kidnapped him and sold him as a slave in Ireland. His purchase was by a chieftain named Miliyu of Atri.
and he put Mae went to work herding sheep and pigs. a smelly and thankless job that kept him out of the elements. As such. The boy had little interactions with anyone. and no one bothered him much. and to replace his tattered clothing. I'm sorry no one. no one bothered to replace his tattered clothing. so the winters he had to work to keep from freezing. As his original garment slowly turned to brags.
It went from riches to rags.
Now, during this period of his life, is when he became a firm believer in God. having no one else to talk to. Maywin would rather would later write about this period in his life.
And these are the words from May with. at the time I did not know that the true God I was taken in the captivity in Ireland. along with thousands of others. We deserved this because we had gone away from gold and did not keep his commitments. We would not listen to our police, who advises us that how we sound could be saved. The Lord brought on the strong anger upon us, and scattered us among many different nations, even to the ends of the earth.
It was among the 4 owners that was seen how little I was. It was only after 6 years in slavery that God revealed. 2 may win at a vision that it was time to flee from safely, and he would walk on a coral. Oh, walk to the coast, not the coral, but the coast.
Well, there is coral on a coast so.
Yes, but some 8, 180 to 200 miles away, and that a ship would be waiting for him there. It would take him home again.
Home again, home again, jiggity Jake.
Trusting in May, when walked to the coast, traveling through unfamiliar wilderness and foraging as he went. Once he reached the shore he did indeed find a British ship anchored there. That he did was able to board and go home. He hadn't been home in a long, and probably still recovering from the years of his abuse, when God sent him to another vision. According to his confessional, Kim.
I saw a man coming. as it were, from Ireland. His name was victorious. and he carried many letters. and he gave me one of them. I read the heading, The Voice of the Irish. As I began the letter. I imagined in that moment that I heard the voice of those very people who were the wood, who were near the wood, a full cut which is beside the western sea, and they cried out as one voice, We appeal to you, holy servant boy.
to come walk among us now about this time, May, one would have been about 22 to 23 But he didn't think of himself, but only of the people imploring him to come and help. Mawin traveled to gal and studied for 25 years. Eventually he was sustained by Saint Germanus, who was Bishop of Oxyear. Bishop was well aware of Mawyn's vision. and gave his blessing for the young man to leave Britain's shores and bring gospel to the Irish.
According to the records. Maven would have been going by the name of Patrick from this point on. And that kind of does make sense cause, I know, like in the Catholic religion. When people are ordained, whether it be, you know, to priesthood, or, you know, to become a nun, they always take on another name. so it would make sense.
Sometimes praise kind of like. Oh, there's 5 or 5 acre. father of holiday, you know. Usually when they can become up with the pictures, so they become a holly folder. filius. Other sacred rooms.
But that would make sense. Why, he stopped going Byron, and started going by Patrick when he was ordained by the church He did reach the Irish shores of. So he reached the Irish shores of slain on March 20 fifth. in 43, 433 A. D. And by now he would have been 48 years old.
Interesting to note by the time this is probably be in the future it'll probably be May about May 20, fourth, May 20 fifth, so pretty interesting thing!
Yes. you mean March not, may.
March, 20 fifth.
Yes, you are getting your your your days mixed up.
I'm sorry. That's okay.
You want the share to be over with, obviously.
Exactly now. At the beginning the local package did not like what Patrick had to say, and there are accounts of him being imprisoned. Numerous times and attempts were made on his life. But as Patrick began carrying a dagger. this is hardly surprising, but more on that. In a minute what was on Patrick's side was that he was to become one of the most of the time he spent to that. Okay.
what was on Patrick's side was that because of his time he spent in Ireland as a slave, he had an understanding of what their native language, culture, and religion. He built us alliances with the local leaders and merged the Irish law with Christianity. Basically. he kind of cheated. He moved the Christian celebratory days to one that corresponds with those Irish who used to celebrating. He used local shamrocks or 3 leaf clovers and shared them, representing the Holy Trinity.
The number 3 was already significant to the patch pagan tree. So it was easier to step in and include the 3 most deities of sorts to their belief systems which are already included the tripled deities. The now popular Celtic cross. our Celtic cross with the 3 arms and a base joined by the circle of a mashup of the Christian cross, and the Irish Trescallian, or triple spiral.
In the annuals of the Kingdom of Ireland it is stated that nothing could be clearer than that Patrick emerge consistency only pagan superstitions with so much speed and skill. He really won the people over in Christian religion before they understood that exact difference between the 2 systems of belief.
Now the first Christian church in Ireland was, thanks to Patrick. however, he was not the first Catholic to try to reach Irish shores. A noble man named Pilateus from Gaul was actually the first known Bishop to tread the Irish shores. He was married to a young I'm sorry he he was a married man. with a young wife and young daughter. When he decided to dedicate himself to the Church according to history.
he kissed them all in a manner of the apostles which we're taking to means and weeping openly before he left for Sicily to study. Apparently his last act before leaving, was give his own daughter away to a convent.
To a kind of rich woman.
Yes, now it wasn't clear it wasn't known whether she or her mother approved to joining this convent. but maybe their feelings are recorded on some long decaying and forgotten parchment or scroll deep in within the Roman vaults, or maybe they were never even recorded I mean at that time women didn't have any rights, so if he had said, My , daughter's going to a convent, really, there couldn't be much argument behind that. But I digress.
According quoting Shakespeare, get thee to a nunnery woman.
Yes.
Oh, I'm sorry, woman, get me to a notary.
Either way.
Oh just just a little bonus question here. Who could tell me where that's from?
I want to say Taming of the Shrew.
No.
Where is it from?
Hamlet.
Okay. Now back to our story. Piladius, upon becoming a full priest and commanded off to Ireland. He refused to work with the people and refused to set accept their ways. Perhaps if he tried acting like he even wanted to be there. Maybe if he gave less arrogant lectures. Maybe if he didn't dam the way the Irish were living for centuries. maybe Pelettius would have had a chance to be successful in Ireland. The King of Leinster in the Eastern province banished him.
and his son, Prince Nafi, made sure that Paladius got on the boat to North Britain. he, he ended up working to establish parishes among the already faithful up in Scotland. Now Scottish tradition holds that Paladius eventually pulled together a Christian community that he settled in and would preside over for nearly 20 years. But that's in Scotland. Let's go back to Ireland.
now. Palladius had 4 companions who had accompanied him to Ireland, and none of them were upset at instead of the masses, and they were allowed to stay if they wished. Brother Sylvester Selenius remained in Ireland. but Augustus and Benedictus followed Palladius until his death sometime around the year 4 50 A. D. After that they both returned to wherever it was they came from, and aren't really important to the story anymore.
Now Sylvester and Zonius did not appear to do well that their history seemed to be added in with Palladius, leaving them to run a church pelican had established, and though don't shout aaria which translates to the Church of the High field. Okay. the local record recorded 30 year 3,300 years later, states that the monistic foundation was built with where we owned medieval church once stood. Ironically they named it Saint Syvester.
however, the church was named it after the Pope Syvester the first. Not this lonely priest. Sure. so it's no wonder the Irish want to do harm to Patrick when he first came to the scene 2 years earlier, they hadn't exited whom not have been around 30 at that time, and 2 years later. Here comes the new guy, only older. namely, Patrick. who would have been in his late forties wanting to push that god Agenda again.
So much for the younger guy. It turns out the old man would be the only one to truly set a flame of Christianity alight. Within a couple of decades the entire nation was converted to Christianity. Now that is a major achievement. So with the name St. Patrick. You think the Catholic Church was the one who granted him his statehood right.
He!
Nope. this is just one of the many things that you might not know about the man. Patrick has never actually been sainted by the Catholic Church. It's only in name, and the Irish themselves have proclaimed him one. Now, why didn't the Church do it well for starters? They hadn't even established a formal process for sainthood during his life. And that's the stuff he's legend for really you can't call it any. Really, you can't call it anything miraculous. you know again, this isn't our opinion.
He did work tirelessly, and converted thousands to an Established churches and monasteries all across the country. but as far as the Catholic Church is concerned, you need to have 2 miracles to be granted canonization. Now, there are so many tales about Patrick that sound miraculous. after all. Didn't he stop on the snakes of Ireland? It's true that Ireland has no native snakes. Any snake you may possibly come across was either imported in and is kept in a zoo, or as a pet.
or it was a pet that got loose or was leased into the wild.
But with the lack of snakes, really isn't anything miraculous, but rather a regional explanation. Ireland, like the other aisles of the northern seas. Once we're all part of the same land mass. What now is Ireland shores. What's what's merely lowlands? In fact. Ireland became an island long before Britain, which is closer to the Eurasian mainland. As Britain was still landlocked, many reptiles, including snakes, were able to migrate, due to the warming climates.
Ireland was already an island continent that the time the snakes reached their coast south. Why, the stories about St. Patrick's stomping all the snakes of Ireland. It doesn't make much for a grand rail till share over a pint nearly a roaming fire at night, but he is actually an allegory. C. The Irish have a long history of and be invaded and decimated, invaded and decimated, invaded and decimated. In fact, a lot of the trial Irish history is only known for about.
because an anonymous author in the eleventh century compiled a document that he somehow helpfully named the Book of the Invasion. though it's always been referenced to as the Book of taking of Ireland. depending on those who translate to refer to the information it contained across the about the Celts cells. their myths and poems tinkering with the history of the back of the Old Testament. which still was used over a century late later. now interesting to note.
Ireland was the name given, I believe, to one of the conquerors. The the Celts called the the ranch salt. but they spelled it the same way. Now each time they were conquered the inhabitants were either killed or allowed to flee, which is why there's a lot of Mitha Mithraes.
Miss Laura.
Myth floor, mithry, myth floor. east time they were conquered. The inhabitants were either killed or allowed to flee, which is where a light of the Irish myth. Laura comes from the further point. and the Dweller did the native. All right. So a further bore at the Tuatinthian were said to have gone underground, giving birth to many of the Fay. the Malevian Milthians. Polarians, the Leviens from Spain, are set to be the ancestors of modern day. Irish.
Funny enough, the Millleans, if you go back into their history, who are involved in building the Tower of Babel when they lived under a Scythian rule far from Spain Peak. The King Fantasy, had a son who married the daughter of an Egyptian Pharaoh. Their son Gabe, is also known as the original ancestor of the Gaelic people.
When Gaydale was a child he was bitten by a poisonous steak, and was rushed to Moses for healing. Moses then prophesized that gay deals as descendants would one day follow the setting sun and find land where no stakes could be found. After the Pharaoh's round in the Red Sea. Gabil and his family returned to Cythia. where his descendants decided to search for this promised land, and arrived in Spain. Once they got there they realized that Spain was not the promised land.
but there was nowhere else for them to go with the time. Sorry I lost where we were at. Let me go back.
You, okay?
Yeah, I just had lost my place. I'm trying to get back to it now. Brogan, who was leading the search instead, built a town. and it was called Briganti Brigantiya. He raised a large shower on the cliffs above the sea. Now the story goes on to say that Brogan's son, if climbed the tower on a clear day, and spotted Ireland in the distance. Becoming entranced by it, he set sail with a crew of men to see the land for himself. The Taratha day Dean, mortally wounded.
They did in.
Yes, to Waffa Dana to Dan. Good.
Day down, and of course.
And shut up, but it sounds like it. The tooth day. Dan and imm mortally wounded this and his men carried him to their ship to set sail for home. It was his kinsman, who led the expedition to Ireland, seeking revenge. It took a long time for the revenge to take place, as the men had trouble finding this place. In the first place. that's too many places. anyway. The myth says that this is due to Tawafi using magic
because the Miloseins couldn't fanth them any other explanation. They had made their island invisible by the time they landed they claimed the land for themselves. so the Towthans insisted it couldn't be conquered. A conquest. as they had no armies of their own. They claim the rules of war, therefore. and they claimed the rule of war did not count. However. the Miloseins were willing to set sail and find the island again. and then the too often would accept their rule.
Of course Mr. Watson's magic came into play again at the Massilians. Had had that set sail when a hurricane bared them down to our boats. scattering them and sinking Mini. but eventually the remaining Massilians, despite being separated from one another, managed to land their shifts along the different parts of the island they now are. They now upset. People begin slaying the Tuatin's rulers over the scattered rest of the underground. Well, the rest of them scattered underground.
The kingsmen, 3 brothers, named Ibar, Finn, and Amaron. then divided the Ireland between them. The Celts were descendants of the mills, as it was from the tales that the militias told their children, and passed on to their children, and to their children, and so forth, and on and on and on, creating with a rich tapestry. That is the Irish mythos. But where does that leave St. Patrick?
Well, those snakes that said there would be the allegory from actual St. Patrick, routing out the old superstitions and bringing Iris Lind to the Catholics doesn't sound like as a poet, as they say. Some priests walking around prophesetizing about God is okay, and all the in images from a man walking out into a pit of snakes lifting the hill are lifting his priestly robes high to keep off them clean, and then stopping and smashing of those critters from the earth
with his own 2 feet, is something that can be either humorous or even brave. If anyone of the storytellers give the snakes poison this spangs, or makes them, and doing as as to the size of an Amazonian and python.
So sorry again. But there were no snake stomp performed on the Irish soil. no scaly mass murderer. Historical sites exist. but it would be a tourist destination if there was one. It was the British who actually gave the Ireland its name. basing it off the the Gaelic language. the name they had for themselves was Aaron as an Aaron Gobrah, which roughly translates today as Ireland forever. the Irish, perpetually conquered couldn't even keep a name for themselves.
The Irish didn't observe St. Patrick's Day until the tenth century, which was long after Patrick's body had turned to dust. There were no parades or revelry that the holiday is now known, for it was actually the Americans who took the Irish holiday and super sized it as we do everything else here in America. There was no one in Ireland dying rivers, green or drinking green beer. The whole. if you're not wearing green you'll get pitched, is also a hundred percent American.
because we do love finding ways to torture each other here in America. In fact, St. Patrick's color wasn't even green. but he wore blue as such. When King Henry the Apes declared himself the King of Ireland in 1541 he made up of coat of arms in solid blue, with a golden harp. This can still be found in use on the Irish presidential flag. The color green didn't stick until the eighteenth century. when the shamrock became seen as a symbol of rebellion for the identity of the Irish.
the great Irish rebellion of 1641 was shown as a revolt against the English crown. so they waved green flags with a golden harp. As a sign of their defiance of the English rule. They trotted green out again during the Irish rebellion of 1798, as they sang The Wearing of Green. an Irish Street ballad, limiting to their own people to come out and support the rebellion by wearing something green. Since that time Ireland and the color green have been linked irrevocably.
Now the Association of Referecons can firmly be laid at Walt Disney. See? Walt Disney was well received in the 1959 classic movie Darby O'gier and the Little People.
I love that movie that's such a good one. A young Sean Connery.
Yes.
Trying to sing.
And the mythos of spending St. Patrick Patrick's Day doubting massive amounts of beer as St. Patrick was preaching for the Catholics. Why wouldn't they be drinking beer in the middle of a Lent? Don't Miss Catholics give up beer for lit? Well, celebrating St. Patrick was seen as a break from whatever you're trying to do. fasting, or whatever. though the nations and downs a lot of pints for the holiday, the Irish appear to enjoy whisky more than ale. as most aren't. Down with the pub, anyway.
as if St. Patrick's Day, as seen as days to spend with family. It is a day of prayer and reflection. It but then, of course, for we Americans again. are Americanized Irish immigrants who had turned it into a wild party seen to become here. There are really. Aren't Irish eating corn, beef and cabbage bangers and mash for the holiday, either. As it was a family gathering, a pork roast would usually carved out in the meat of the day.
Sorry my computer is acting up now, is there anything we know that is to be true about this holiday? Well, we know the use of the the shamrock in Patrick's teachings is true. and when you come across stainless glassworks or illustrations of him. there is usually a shamrock held in his hand. It's not a hundred percent proven, as records of Patrick's death have been found to have been written much later. but March seventeenth is agreed by all to be the day of his death.
even if the year is in question. One such document claims that Patrick died at the age of a hundred 20, but most callers believe he was far, much younger than that that does make sense. As exact date and year of his birth is also debated by scholars. so you know. Why wouldn't it be that his death is argued as well? Now we do know that Patrick existed, and that he died in the Irish town of Down and Downpatrick, Northern Ireland.
and there is a large boulder that covers the place where his body is supposed to rest. and this is on top of the local heel. however, the boulder is a newer stone that was placed in the early 19 hundreds. as too many pilgrims that visited the site were removing soil from the Holy from this holy site to carry as relics. The zone is simply carved with a Celtic cross, and the name Patrick.
There is an older Celtic cross at the Stu, at the site that dates back to the Tenth Century Memorial plaques citing who Patrick was, and his importance to the Irish people can be seen at a nearby cathedral that was dedicated to the saint, and it was erected in the twelfth century. This cathedral still stands today at the bottom of the hill you can find the St. Patrick's center. This is the only permanent exhibit in the world dedicated to its most faithful saint.
The hailed apostle of Ireland is still prevailed today for the Irish Catholics. Wherever you find them. The holiday again in Ireland is a day of remembrance, and pilgrid's pilgrimages are still made.
So there are no leprosy in the story, no monstrous snake seeking out the righteous to devour. Ireland's great today is the beauty and the coming of springtime. as we all fairly certain that no one is tipping a ha! A hat to one another, saying, top of the Bonata. and if you're really implying here the shout a greeting to the Irishman you meet.
remember that it's St. Patty's Day spelled with a double d. And not decided for merely Patty PATT. Y. It is made for him to correct you so that way the Ireland, instead of find and do it for Ireland instead. and remember, no matter how attractive the Irish lad or last may be, no one is wearing. Kiss me under Irish buttons, so the tips off unless you're invited. I'm not sure. But but how do we come? How does it? How does it come off to you?
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