0083 Sir Gene Speaks with Dude Named Ben

This is sir, Gene join me once again is sir dude named Ben, how are you?

I do not smoke weed. Gene how's Mexico.

Yeah, it's I know some people think I secretly flew to Russia, but now I'm sitting with the sun and the, the swimming pool and the very warm weather here.

Yeah. I think there's only one person who thinks you're in Russia.

Wow. If I'm thinking of the person you're thinking of, he thinks I'm permanently in Russia,

exactly. So this could be our last episode of sir. Gene speaks together.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna fire your ass.

we actually decided on a, a, a name and it sounds like secret agent Paul's working on theme song for us.

Is he really? Wow. That's

He, he, he volunteered

That's great. That's great. I know there's a lot of good musical talent in the no agenda. The social I'm not one of 'em. So

Norm,

now, if,

I, I, I play the violin, but it's not, it does not qualify for this. So

Yeah. No, and I, I, I play keyboard, but you know, mostly accordion.

yeah. Well, I put a call out there and asking for help and he he piped up, so we'll see what he does.

Very cool. Very cool. So should we let the folks know what the name of the show.

Sure.

yeah, it it's gonna be super easy to remember just two good old boys.

And if, if you haven't seen Dukes of hazard, just Googled the Dukes of hazard theme.

Everybody seen DHA.

But now one, one thing you gotta note here is you actually have a good old boy and then you have the Russian spy. So

well, here's the thing. It's our domain, which will be we got it, but we don't have the podcast up on it. Hopefully by next episode, we'll have that on there. There, there might be a period of time where I post on both on the Sir Gene Speaks you can speaks and you know, prefacing every episode with, Hey, go sign up for the new podcast. As well as the new one, cuz I, I don't wanna just like start the new one and have, you know, five people listening.

well, there's some 2.0 features that can help you with that too.

I don't know if there are the,

There are some of the name, space stuff on forwarding of RSS

yeah, but we're not forwarding or changing. We're

Well, what you could do is temporarily do it is what I'm saying. So adding to the surgeon speaks feed a forward for X, Y, Z episodes. You can do it per episode.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I might be a way to do it. I'll figure it out for sure. Probably going to spend some time on that when I get back,

Cool, cool

out. So, I mentioned to you before we started, I've I've been trying to force myself to minimize internet time, which typically still means that once a day, I end up posting stuff on no gen social cuz I get on.

It

I get on the

Gene I've got notifications turned on for you.

it's it's mostly once a day. I'm so what, what did I miss what's happening?

Well, a big redacted mess for one.

What's what's what do you mean?

Well, I'm not talking about Clayton Morris's podcast. I'm talking about the Trump affidavit.

Oh, I thought you were talking about the podcast.

no, man. They, they, so they finally released the affidavit for the radar Marla and the liberal media is going out and just being like, oh my God, this totally Trump's arguments. Everything, you know, he he's nailed to the wall

mm-hmm

versus me reading it. I go, okay. They didn't tell us Jack shit. And I, if you go through and look at it easily over 50% of it is redacted and blacked out. And I mean, pages and pages and pages of redactions, and they didn't give us anything on their RA reasoning or rationale except this. So Trump turned over documents to the national archive

mm-hmm

and some of them were classified. So they had reason to believe he may have additional classified documents.

boy that wouldn't stand up in court. As the reasons you could a warrant.

It's a general warrant, dude. It, it's not a specific enough warrant. It, this would qualify as a general warrant as far as I'm concerned

If somebody once turned in a stolen wallet, therefore he might have more stolen wallets at his house. That that is not, that is not warrant

it's not. Okay. And when you look at the, the, the fact that the, this is being run out of the DC office, not the Miami field office and it's the same agents. Well, not necessarily exactly the same, but the same department that ran crossfire hurricane

it's the same company.

dude, it looks dirty. This looks

It is dirty. FBI's been dirty for a long time, which is

Oh, the FBI's been dirty forever. I mean,

Yeah, and I, I like, I know some good guys in it, but man, there are a lot of bad guys in it and

You know, so as someone who has been asked to join INFR regard at a nauseum, and I have just said, why the fuck would I do that? You know, I, I, I don't see any value to the FBI at all. Break it up, get rid of it. The federal government doesn't have any policing power. Anyway, FBI, ATF, I can start naming organizations that need to just go

any three letter agency should probably be wound down. Yeah. I, so let let's focus. We'll get to the ATF stuff too. Let's focus up on the FBI. One of the things I did post is I found a funny little comic strip that has the in the next election in debates, the elephant debating with the FBI,

yeah.

the other party at this point is FBI. It is, it is not a political party.

was this comic strip by

No, God,

Ah,

no. This was a good quality

gotta step it up. Got it.

of all, he doesn't listen to this.

He does. He, I literally got, I literal GE I gotta tell you this, man. I literally got a notice on no agenda social from about star Trek, lower decks, because he started watching it. Cuz I mentioned it on this

oh my God. I'm gonna have to ban 'em from listening.

luck.

need, I need a new feature in podcasting 2.0 that lets me exclude somebody by

no, man. He, he he's good people. I like And plus he and I get to joke about you all the time.

Yeah, I bet you do

I mean,

well. I'm glad you like people that, that think I'm

I, I, after this, when we switch to the new name, you can't call it that anymore.

Alright, so yeah, FBI clearly is a political wing or the enforcement wing, I should say, of the big tech party.

Yep.

That's the best way to describe it.

Gene, have you ever looked at a picture of Jager? Hoover,

Sure.

pull one up Ask you a very specific question. If I

okay. Like a black and white one.

color, preferably,

Okay. Let me see if I can get a color one. And most of 'em I've seen are black and white. Okay. Here's a color one. Sure.

is he black or white?

In the color image,

Mm-hmm

it looks Italian. Got that big Italian nose. Brown eyes.

Mo and several others. And this is a whole theory that he was a black man that was passing.

Jacob Hoovers? No, he was not a black man.

There are people there, there are people who claim he had been family.

Okay. I

can go down the rabbit hole. I'm just saying, and if

not that hard to find you know, a lineage of somebody

okay, well try the rabbit hole. And when you look at how he treated Martin Luther king, and if you take him as a passing black man, then that is a very interesting self hatred sort of

dude. He's not black. I mean, Christ thanks. Come on.

well, at least we can say that he was on the same spectrum as Blair white, right?

I don't see any image of him wearing a dress.

no, he

I mean, I've heard that he liked men, but you know, so what,

No, apparently he was a cross dresser.

well, I thought he was gay

Maybe that too.

and that proves he's not black by the way. Cuz there are no black gay men. Everybody knows this. Yeah

you did you see the Blair white interview where Alex passed out?

I did. Yeah. And I think she just posted some follow up stuff

Yeah, it wasn't as bad as I would've expected based off of what they had said.

I mean

I mean, he was out of it,

he was totally out of it. Alex does not have a dial below 11. If he's gonna do something, he's gonna be dialed up to 11, whether it's being on his you know, talk radio show, whether it's it's being interviewed by somebody else, whether it's being in court. I mean, the guy's always on a love, not a 10.

Yeah. Speaking of he's given Trump a month,

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw, I heard that. Yeah.

he's given him a month to renounce the vaccines and, you know, keep his support. Otherwise he's going with the Santas

Mm-hmm well, I'm definitely going with the Santa. I don't need a month.

yeah. Well, here's the interesting thing. The Democrats are already pivoting and moving to hang Trump with the vaccines. Like they can't hide the dead bodies any longer and they're

Well, to be

blame it on Trump.

he did start it.

Warp speed, man. You, you wanna take credit for that? You get the credit for it, you know?

Yeah. So I'm looking at Jay Hoover's family tree and I don't see any black people in it.

There's someone who claims to be his niece that has decidedly black Mo has covered this on Mo facts. There's

can have

is not a,

after the fact. Yeah. I mean, if, if his I guess would be, if his brother had a kid who married somebody of the darker complexion. Well, why not? Sure.

that's not the way it worked, but anyway,

Well, I mean,

pull

she's his niece, she's gonna be his brother or sister's kid, right?

Right. But anyway, just go, listen.

Hey, you brought it up, man.

worth the theory. I, I personally, when I look at him, I totally see it.

What, what you got a kidney. What do you see?

I see a passable black person. Totally.

insane?

No.

Yes, no characteristics of a black person.

Are you looking at the same photos? I am

Clearly you're looking at doctorate photos. I'm looking at actual photos. I'm looking at the KGB archives. What are you looking at?

well, I don't have access to that. So

Oh, they're all public now.

are they really.

Yeah. They're part of, well, I mean, you gotta use a Russian website to get to 'em, but they're totally public.

Yeah. So this is actually his FBI portrait as director that I'm gonna send you.

Okay. I mean, look, you can mess with Photoshop and crank any color you want on the person's face. Honestly, there is no black or white. There is dark orange and light orange. We're actually orange is the color of our skin.

Well, at least Trump is

No, I mean, well, kidding aside, if you analyze the color spectrum that we are, we're actually a FA a light orange,

I mean, there is no such thing as the color black by that sort of statement.

for sure. Black is the absence of all the other colors.

Exactly. And that doesn't exist because light

So you're denying black people. Oh my God. Is this where we are now?

it absolutely is. Black does not exist.

Oh my God.

by the way, folks, we're recording this instead of our normal time. We're recording this on a Sunday

Yeah. That's why I sound a lot higher pitched

yeah, why I'm in a better mood.

Oh, really? Is that what it is? Okay. So next thing you're gonna say, Harry is Truman was Jewish.

well, duh.

you're you're you're two what's the phrase two waves. The win two leaves. I don't what the phrase you're clearly

I'm not, no, no. I'm just messing with Eugene. Anyway no, the, the whole FBI raid thing that, where we're at is just it's. I, I really feel like this is a jump, the shark moment. I know you don't, but I, the more that comes out with the affidavit, with where we're at, I really think it's slapping people in the face a little too much.

The, you, you mean it's slapping people that are seeing the power that the other party wields through the FBI. And

The fact that Hillary Clinton had however many emails on her personal server that were potentially have classified nature. The fact the Clintons literally robbed the white house on their way out. The fact that the Obamas had classified information that they ended up having to argue and turn over. I mean, yet we haven't seen an FBI raid of any other president. I, I, I think this is that jump, the shark moment where the other side thinks they have enough momentum. They are.

Hmm. Well, okay. But jump to shark, meaning that they don't care anymore, or what do you mean by jump to shark?

Jump the shark as in, they went too far and it is waking a lot of people up.

Eh,

I know liberals in my life

saying that forever.

I'm sorry.

People say that all the time. I don't remember a year of my life where somebody hasn't said yep. They've to they done it now they've totally jumped the shark. They've gotten insane. They've they can't go backed from this. And yet no one cares.

Mm,

I, I, you remember what I, what I said a few episodes ago, to me, the point at which something's gonna change won't happen until somebody in this country decides that the cost of their life is worth making change happen until that happens. It's just people watching the news for entertainment.

well,

it.

So there have been some interesting developments in that. One there have been some conservatives that have taken a few steps, a little too far for me in my liking. And then also a note is that Marjorie Taylor green has been squatted a couple of times this week,

She's been swatted

twice

well, but that's that, that is a typical kind of thing that I would expect the liberals to be doing because they're, they're two chicken shit to do anything in themselves. They're gonna leverage the police. They're gonna leverage the FBI. They're

their own guns, so they have to use the polices

what they exactly. They don't have their own kids, but that's why they can control what our children actually learn. They don't have their own guns, but they have the police and the FBI, you know, they've, they've figured out how to diss themselves a step away while still may maintaining control.

Well, regardless, Marjorie Taylor, Green's been swatted twice this week, so that's a

Yeah. It it's very unfortunate.

you know, it's a Congress person. So

Yep.

can you imagine the left's response if it was Nancy Pelosi that got swatted.

Well I think we'd cancel all police period.

Obviously

Yeah. Like, including in DC. Well, AOC Yeah. Well, first, first they'd have to figure out what she's currently living. Cause it ain't in New York and it ain't DC.

so what do you think is next for her after Congress fans only?

Oh, AOC. I think she's gonna be a commentator. She's gonna make a lot of money doing that. And then she's gonna run for president.

I, I, I, I bet you only fans is in her, in her future at

I'll bet you a buck. That's not the case.

her and

I mean, I know you're being funny, but it's all, all kidding aside. I think she's definitely gonna get picked up as a commentator on one of the TV stations

Yeah,

that will lead to her running for present.

well, I mean, it'll be a failed bid, but sure. Brand seltzer water, we talked about that last time, but it, it surprises me that he hasn't landed anywhere yet. So,

that's the the little ball guy,

Yeah. I mean, his ratings at CNN were abysmal enough that, and that the fact that a week has gone by and he hasn't landed somewhere. I think he's done.

Well, I don't know that he makes all that much money at CNN. I think he made more from HBO.

Well, but regardless if he hasn't found a home yet where who's gonna hire him, if you miss NBC,

on his next book. He's gonna write some scripts. He'll gonna have a bunch of pre-orders for those books in the millions of

This isn't the jerk off guy that got caught doing something bad. This is just a canceled show. So usually like when Megan Kelly get canceled and so on from Fox, she already pre announced and went somewhere else and, you know, da, da

okay, well, so are you worried about 'em what's I don't understand the

no, I'm I'm. I just think he's done. That's all. I, I think he's it made himself irrelevant. That's my only comment.

it's a little too soon to say that

Maybe, but it's in the line of go woke or go broke that sort of

you know, literally he's only been off the area, the amount of time I've been on vacation. Not that long.

Well, how long are you playing on staying on vacation? Gene?

It depends. How long is it gonna take for him to get a job?

you're gonna stay on vacation until Brian seltzer gets a job. That, that

God damnit, I'm gonna wait it out.

I don't think your bank account's gonna afford that, but.

No, maybe, maybe not. We'll see. We'll see. No, I just, I look, I think it's it. Obviously, there's quite a bit of Shi in for, in the fact that the guy's laid off he's fired. And that's not a bad thing. It's good for people to experience a pleasure at other people's Spain. But I think it's a little too early to rate him off completely.

man. I don't

He may end up being the liberal Tim pool.

Oh, fuck that. I'm I'm watching his ratings over the years, looking at his ratings and I just don't see anyone picking up. He could be, he could be the Tim

There's a, there's a chance that he's gonna get on start his own video podcast. Talk about how he's finally been freed from the shackles of big media and basically just model himself on the liberal version of Tim.

maybe

You've never seen those two together. Have you?

No, no, they're both bald

there's a, there's a reason Tim wears a hat

Yeah, they're both

Uhhuh.

Speaking of, did you listen to Tim's new number two, hit single.

No, he's got a, a music thing.

He has published he has announced Tim cast records and put out a song and it hit number

I know he plays guitar, but I, I never heard him.

Right? He's singing.

Isn't he? Good?

I Hmm. Okay. So it is not my style of music. It is very, huh.

it's country.

No, I love

No. Oh,

I grew up on country and XO and everything

Yeah. Well, that's

I love good classic rock. This is very emo esque

Oh, is this like Seattle rock?

Yeah.

Got it. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I don't like that shit.

Anyway, so I mean, I put it up there with what's that song. Oh my God. It, it it's very much, I lost the opportunity with a girl because she died sort of music

oh, okay. Like Melin, Cali,

I'm sorry.

like Mellon Kelly music.

Yeah, the undertones are definitely but he's, you know, he he's putting it out there, so whatever. But I just think it's a weird move for a, and he, he, he argues that, oh, I've been putting out music longer than I've put in, been putting out political commentary, dude. No, you haven't. You're known for political commentary. If you put anything on SoundCloud, no one ever listened to it before this. Thank you very much. You know,

Well, I know he's done a few, like he's been in the band of a few other groups. I know that.

He's making a big thing about having the drummer from offspring

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. Cuz the guy got fired.

yep. Over the VAX

on that YeahAnd date? Mm-hmm yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, good, good for him. He's he's getting well, he didn't hit one though. That's too bad.

Not yet.

He is getting a lot of money from a lot of people, including the both of us at at least at some points

from you, not for

Yeah. He is definitely getting money from me and he's getting that sweet, sweet Putin money. just had to throw that in there anyway. So yeah, why not start up a label? Do you might as well?

It just seems like an odd move to me. I mean, I guess the daily wire is starting movies, but a label 10 cast records who the fuck's gonna sign with that. I just don't see that

Well, you know, the, the no longer liberal emo Seattle rockers,

And those exist where

well, he is got a band full than he

he's got something.

Uhhuh Ian Ian's in there, right?

I don't think he, I I'd have to go

Oh really? I thought Ian played

but I don't think Ian's in it.

Really? I thought Ian played bass.

If he did, I didn't see him in the music video, but I was half paying attention. I just played this all in once. So

Okay. Got it. Yeah. I have not listened to it at all. So.

Well, I'd be interested to hear what you think.

I'm pretty sure it would suck.

dude, it, it, it was a surprisingly emotional song for him to put out as his first one. Like it's over the top. What's that song? Talk for a second.

I don't know. I don't know what song it is, but I don't like most of that music, I probably don't like most rock that you like either

How so? Well, I mean, what, what kinds of music do you like

classical.

OV skis? One of my favorites, I play violin for Christ's sake. I love classical music.

Yes. Well, don't be so nerdy, but there's a, if you look at my audio collection, which is about 120,000 pieces of music which is also why I don't need to pay for somebody to play music for me, I already have all the music I want. Most of that is going to be things no one's ever heard of.

Such as

I mean, well, some people have heard of, but I have a lot of like early eighties, European music.

oh,

Like techno, not techno, but like precursors, techno, like Euro synth.

Okay. And by the way, the song I was thinking about that I could compare Tim cast's song two was Pearl jam. Last kiss.

okay. I've never heard of it. So wouldn't work

jam is or you don't know

I've heard of Pearl jam. I've heard of that group. I think they were around in the nineties or something.

Yeah. Eighties and nineties. Yeah.

Yeah. But

where can I baby be? That you don't know that song really? I mean, this was a, actually a pretty big hit.

not what I was listening

very emotionally emo.

Yeah. I just think music was horrible in the nineties.

Okay. Well I'm sure will get it. The reference

Okay. Well I'm sure he will. Although maybe not. It depends on his age.

Way, he's paying me per reference. Just so everyone

I, I, I figured as much I'm gonna start charging you soon too.

mm-hmm

So the, what else am I, what, what else do I not know about? Cause so far, all your stories seem kinda like not really tied to anything that happened right now. I mean, I guess Tim's music came out, so that's

What do you mean? All my stories. So you mean like

Jagar Hoover was, has been dead for how long.

yeah, but that was in reference to the FBI story. So that was tied to Marla and the, the, the affidavit and everything I've talked about has been

Didn't didn't his somebody do a movie about him recently or something.

If they did, I didn't catch it.

I saw a photo of Shirley temple with him.

Yeah. Did you see she Hulk

No, and I have no interest in seeing it.

dude, I watched part of the first episode and it is so bad. It is. It is. It's like

see, I, I watch

if MGT made a FM explainer

exactly. I, I watch nerd

Uhhuh

On YouTube and you know, those guys are as close as I wanted to be to any comic books.

okay.

I don't like comic book movies.

Well, this isn't a comic book movie, but it's a show and

Well, Hulk is a comic book. I literally remember those comics from when I was a kid.

yeah, I, I, I'm sure the, you have to at least look on YouTube and watch her explain how she deals with more anger issues than Hulk

Oh, I saw that, but the expression on the Hulk's face is priceless

Oh, it's fucking fantastic. It's so memorable. This is gonna be a meme for decades.

yeah. Yeah. It's like bitch Mo bitched Mo bitch Mo Uhhuh, Uhhuh, Uhhuh. The, a whole concept of Chiko makes no fucking sense. Anyway,

no, but

of Hulk is he is masculinity cranked up to 11,

well the point is that he, you won't like me when I'm angry, right? So

right? Because

normal guy.

he's literally Arnold. Schwartzer exactly.

except not, you know, with

Well, Arnold wasn't green, I guess, but Arnold's

Arnold doesn't have high testosterone. He, I mean, he has no balls because of all the steroid usage

yeah, exactly. That's kind of my point, Arnold, during the eighties was living on steroid instead of food.

oh,

So that's pretty much what the Hulk is. He's roid up, you know, pure masculine kind

I wouldn't say that ROI it up is pure masculine, but okay.

Well, it is. I mean, why, why wouldn't you

well, when your test is dissolve because of your re

he doesn't need testes. He got hit with gamma radiation, dude. Do you not read the comic book?

yes. Cuz Gama radiation, you

That replaces testes. And that makes made him green as well.

Huh. Mm-hmm

Yeah. I mean, would you rather have that or get bitten by a spider

You know, my my

and then they ejaculate outta your wrists?

Is that what that is?

Have you never watched Spiderman,

I have watched Spider-Man but I'm pretty sure my ejaculate isn't ropey enough for me to swing

Well, that's because he's got spider DNA mixed in because the bite with his, you know, displaced ejaculatory ports,

oh, we are off the rails on this one

Yeah, I thought we were talking about guns and, you know, shit like that with, with the show, but apparently

Yeah. Yeah. So, went to my mom's birthday is tomorrow and they came over. That's why partnered some over doing this on Sunday night and said Saturday morning and went looking for a gun for her and man, the new if you haven't looked at it, you need to the new SIG P 365 with the Romeo zero elite edition. So it's a gun with an optic coming with an optic

yeah, I've seen

pretty damn

Mm-hmm

And

big though. Right?

no, it's a, it's a compact it's

That's what I thought.

and concealed carry. And having that optic pre mounted on there is just, it, it is game changing in my mind.

Well, what about it is game changer? I mean, you could stick one of those optics on again.

Well you have to mill the gun for it, unless it becomes pre milled. Like mine does only M 17 and Darren has the same gun. It just looking,

basically everybody has one of those. Okay. Next

trying to hunt for a gun for her though, and seeing an optic mounted on a gun at the gun store, looking at it, it it's made me make the decision that I will be putting an optic on my daily carry. Just because it it's, it's just night and day, like

I know what I was gonna ask you. Didn't the Texas carry get like canceled and then deferred for 30 days or some shit

No. What happened was the law preventing someone under 21 from carrying a pistol

mm-hmm

nullified. But it doesn't affect over 21. It affects just under 21. So if you're under 21 right now until the court decision gets reversed, you can carry

mm-hmm okay. But that law isn't that just a part of the law that got passed that allowed. Constitutional carry. So if the law is found to be unconstitutional on the grounds that it has age restrictions, wouldn't the whole law be then found unconstitutional and then the legislature has to redo it.

not necessarily. So the way the rule, the way the ruling at least what I have read of the ruling and the opinion is that the age restriction is struck down essentially under the incorporation doctrine and equal protection under the law. So any one of the majority of age of majority should be protected under this. So, no, my, my understanding

we, we wouldn't had a number of laws around abortion struck down in its entirety due to small technicalities as part of the law.

Yeah, federal law. Sure.

state laws, cuz there there's no federal law on that, these are state laws. So I think I'm, I'd like to have somebody chime in or I'm gonna do my own research here obviously, but it seemed to me that there, they would have to strike down that law in its entirety.

well there's

And then the,

as well

I don't know. I don't know, man, I I've seen generally laws gets the whole law ends up. They, they don't get the judges. Don't get to delete sentences.

no, but what you're missing is so I'm go

I could be missing. I just don't,

So what you have to understand is there are acceptability clauses built into a lot of laws where it literally says in the law, if any portion of this law is struck down, the remainder shall not be considered to be struck down. It will function without the one

And, and does this particular law have that?

I'm gonna have to quite honestly do some research, which I'm trying to do right now. And, you know,

cause that's how organized we are. We do real time looking up photos of James river and real time

Yeah. So, apparently the

I do know the judge did a 30 day stay on the zone order.

I'm sorry,

The judge did a 30 day stay on his own order to give an opportunity for the legislature to redo it.

ABC, CNN in Politico, all think it's falls under separability.

So basically we have no idea. So you just named three non-trust worthy sources.

well, the they're the ones that came up. We'll have to see I mean, here's what it comes down to the judge is right. I hate to say it, but he's a hundred percent right in that. If you're over the age of 18, if you're an illegal adult, if we say eighteen's an adult, why are we waiting on anything? Next thing he needs to do is lower the drinking age.

Or raise it.

Well, if he raises it, then he needs to raise the voting age and raise the, when you can be

I don't think people under 30 ought to be allowed to vote, frankly, they're, they haven't figured out the world yet. Why would we want them voting?

I, I don't know that I'd

I mean, for them, man, our Landover and over is over 50 would be ideal, but I think that's a harder thing to push, but you know, under 30, come on now, the good news is they self-select out. So most of 'em don't actually vote when they're under 30, but it'd be nice to make sure that's the case.

So I, I think land ownership should be a qualification.

for voting would be good too.

So I, I, quick story, I pissed off a PoliSci prof and college. So this, this PoliSci profit that I had, she was CCP like literally from China, Chinese communist party, teaching American politics. So that was

oh man. I was so tempted to do a Chinese accent, right.

Well, I mean, get canceled on this RSS feed before we shipped to the next

I know. Right?

Yeah. But anyway, everybody, there was like 107 people in this class. Everybody hated when I actually showed up because they knew we were gonna get into a argument and, and, or debate.

Hmm.

Anyway, it, it was, it was not a fun time. And I'm trying to remember where I was going.

do you have details or are you just gonna say it was not a fun time?

I mean, just debates over, you know, pretty much every topic on freedom or anything else. Anyway dude, I am blinking right now. I was going somewhere.

yeah. It's not the morning. You're clearly not cut out to do evening podcasts,

Well, you know, been dealing with the kids all day and everything else, but

getting new

more of a, huh?

get any new guns.

No, no, I just don't go and shopping for the one for my mom. But,

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you did get a new one and they got your mom a gun now, is that, is that a legal thing or is that considered a paper purchase?

well she was with me and she com

Oh, she was with you. Got it. Got it. So you were just, you weren't so

and helping pay

you just paying for the gun for somebody else, which how's that.

it's perfectly legal as long as it's in their name and even

thought it was just for children. You're allowed to buy guns.

no, no, no, no. So one she's doing the paperwork. I'm giving her cash to reimburser in the background, but re but regardless, a straw purchase, the, the straw purchase laws are only when you know that the person cannot legally possess a gun. Anyway.

Mm.

So if I decide I wanna buy her a gun tomorrow, or

really know whether your

you or anyone,

or anything.

I'm sorry,

I, how do you know any of us are felons or not?

it it's. So this is a case where

do a background check on your mom.

She'd fail it. But yeah. Now, so yeah, it's where it it's knowingly doing something. So how do you prove someone knowingly did something?

Well, you have to dis brew it. I mean, that's obviously the government standard, as you have to prove negative,

Yeah. Well, logical possibility, but sure.

not a legal one. so you got her, you got her fun little gun now. Does she shoot regularly or does she just like have guns just in case, or

Oh, I mean, my parents are, I, I, I got it.

know your dad hunts.

yeah, we we're, we're pretty active on our shooting. My mom she's a realtor and goes into certain situations where,

Well, yeah, she needs to be armed for sure.

she does and you know, she's, she's up there, she's in her seventies and

still working

huh.

still working.

Oh, both my parents will work till the day

Yeah. Well, I can't, I can't fault that.

it's their, that's their type of people. That's the way they are. You know, she, she currently has a couple guns that she'll put in her purse or something like, like that and off by Gary. But, you know, we were talking

Derringer.

I've got a dinger.

Yeah. That's a kind of a ladies gun. Isn't that?

It's strategically placed in my truck and it's it's one of those nice backups,

mm.

but sure. You know, hookers used them in, you know, the old west and all that, but, so what it's, it's a 38 special man.

the old Western movies where, you know, the hooker has always got a dinger hidden in there someplace Garder. Yeah, exactly. That's what I was thinking.

Yeah. But I mean, I have a 38 special, you know, nothing to sear at. If you ask me

Mm-hmm so it it's like a single double shot.

a double stack

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a single action. So you gotta cock ITT in between and you know, it's a, it's a close up thing. Yeah. Which, you know what, it, it surprised me that there are a couple modern handguns that are single action hammer fired semis in the way of a 1911 that are still

Oh sure. 1911. Yeah. Yeah.

No, no, no, no, no, not a 1911. This is I think it was Ruger that made it, but it, it has a, we were looking at it and it's a hammer. It's a single action, you know? And to me, totally. I, I told my mom, look, I, I have no problem.

This is one of the reasons I've never liked. External hammer pistols is cuz the idea of walking around with a gap between the hammer and the striker just is not appealing. I'd much rather have an internally.

Yeah. I, so, I mean, I, I love my 1911. There are purposes for that. I think it can be okay, especially in an open carry scenario or something like that, but as far as a concealed carry gun, that's going to potentially have lent or anything else in the way. And we were talking about safeties and, you know, then a mechanical safety is an absolute must with that kind of

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but that's the thing is like, if you're gonna carry cocked and locked, I, I would not want the hammer exposed.

Agreed.

Yeah. But I don't know. I would kind of prefer that my, my handgun just made a shotgun racking noise. Whenever I cocked a hammer. Every time you

Universal language, forget the fuck

Uhhuh, Uhhuh, this is, this is universal language for, this is your one and only warning.

Yeah. Which you

gonna be very loud and very painful.

and my question in every movie is why the fuck didn't you have one around in the, in the chamber anyway, you know,

Well, I, I think there is a point in not doing that. Like for example in my pump shotgun, that is three feet away from my bed. That is the condition that that's in is that I would need to cycle it in order to load the first.

okay.

Mostly cuz I like that noise cuz I like the sound man.

Yeah. Well,

It's I, there's not a situation where I would need to use that gun to shoot somebody while I'm in bed. I have a handgun under the pillow for

Gene, how long, how long were you in the KGB?

that's never the KGB. This is a lie that polished scumbag keeps telling his data is

telling my wife, you know, sometimes I think Gene's my handler.

Mm-hmm yes. That, that, that kind of ran its course with Adam for about six years.

now you've moved on.

Mm-hmm

Mm. So did you hear about California and the car thing?

the California card thing. No,

So Cal, eh, I thought I sent this out, but so California,

you assume I read shit. You sent, okay, go ahead. Go ahead.

yeah, you know, thanks Jean. So California passed a by 2034, I think they have to have zero emissions on any new cars and I may have the year wrong. So please forgive me. But it's in the 2030s. Every car is sold

sent that to me?

I think I sent it out on the channel between you, me and Josh.

Oh, okay. Cuz I think I have a different buddy of mine. Send me. Oh yeah. Washington bands got banning gas cars. 2030.

California. You

what? Well, no, that's when my buddy from Washington state sent me,

okay, well, California is doing it by like 2034, but anyway, here, here's the thing. So that's not a possibility, like this does not work. So, and here, here's why let's say you ban all new gas cars, and you look at the replacement rate for cars in California. And you look at the average use case. So how many gallons per year do you think California consumes in gasoline today? Gasoline, not gasoline and diesel. Just gasoline. So consumer

say just like water way more than they produce.

yeah. 58 million gallons per year in California. Okay. So if you take the EPAs formula of one gallon of gas, equaling 33.7 kilowatt hours, which I found the 33 number in there. Hilarious. But let's just ignore that for a second. Anyway, you multiply this out. You're looking at a hundred and I'm sorry. 1.9 million megawatts of additional generation required

Okay.

just to satiate California's gas

Now, where do you get that number from?

Taking the 58 million times the 33.7 by the EPA,

Where's the 58 million coming from

the amount of gas that California uses per year.

currently. But what we don't know is what kind of gas mileage they're currently getting?

it it's really not necessarily relevant. Because the 33.7 is a broad estimate of what a gallon gets based off of a fleet of vehicles. So realistically, that could be way, way more or way, way less. So it's just an estimate. I mean, consider this an order, a magnitude destination.

Well, I get it, but as an example, the Tesla model three gets about a hundred E gallons per or gallons per E or whatever the fuck it is. Right. It's

Well, let, let's put it this way. How much do you think it costs per kilowatt hour to build new generation gene?

Well, I don't know that that's allowed right now with the current administration.

Well, but we're gonna have to build more and we're gonna have to build more transmission and distribution

can't we just get our, get our power from Mexico, like all other countries do.

So between six and $8,000 per kilowatt hour is what it costs to build new generation that's solar that's wind that's fossil.

Ah, there you go. So now you haven't thought about the fact that California will also mandate that every roof that is purchased moving forward, have solar panels in it.

okay. Even if they do let's look at the cost, so you

cost is gonna be passed on to the consumer

the cost is going to be trillions in order to meet the need.

no, this sounds like a stock tip to me.

Sure. You know, going ahead and invest in PG E the criminal corporation that it is,

no, no, no, no stock tip for companies doing solar, like Tesla, solar,

Tesla's not doing solar, they haven't done it. They haven't produced a single solar roof.

They should, I've seen videos. What are you talking about?

You've seen demo reels. You have not seen actual installation.

But they, well, they don't look like solar. That's why

No, this is one of the, this is like the cyber truck it's never been delivered.

I have a cyber truck.

No, you don't.

I do I ordered the second day.

Yeah, you you've ordered it. Have you received it?

well, no, I haven't received it, but you know, I've got one

go.

coming when it's made someday eventually.

Uhhuh.

So probably the roof at the same time as a truck is my guess.

This is like, when will the Ukraine war end?

Hmm. Well, how many billions can we send to 'em that'll determine when it ends.

we just sent more.

Yeah, we did. Of course. I think we're pushing over a hundred billion now.

Yeah, we're very close. And you

God we have the spare change.

the Biden administration has printed more money in the last two years than every other president combined, including Trump,

Yep.

the fuck.

they actually need the money. You see all the other presidents didn't need the money. The Biden administration needs the money because they're doling it out through executive power instead of through Congress. Cuz I dunno where this whole idea that somehow Congress is responsible for budgets came from.

Yeah. So you're aware of the student loan forgiveness, then I could take it.

I did hear about that. Yes. I saw hilarious cartoon on that, that, that said something to the effect of of my mortgage identifies as a student.

yeah. Well, I, I, I just told my stepdaughter, well, looks like you're too. I mean, it, it is absolutely insane. And to think that this is not going to be

well, it's welfare for the middle class.

What do you define as the middle class?

People that send kids to college.

I think lots of classes send people to college, but what,

Well, people that can't afford to do that, don't

I, I think there are very few people who, if they want to go to college cannot afford it. Given the grants and

I it's over a hundred grand for a person to go to college right now.

No,

Most people can't afford that. Well, the, but do community colleges, do those loans get canceled out?

Oh yeah. Sure. Any loan

Hmm

trade school

what's and then what, what was the see that that'd be good idea. I wonder if I can take some trade school classes

Dude and Hey pro tip pro tip, anyone who is listening that is teenage college agent looking for a career, go to a trade school for an in C technician. Two year degree,

yeah. Or an HVAC program.

well in C instrumentation and control. If you end up working in the power industry with a two year degree, you're gonna make between a hundred and, and 200 do $200,000 a year.

That's pretty good, but with a HVAC

I know some in C guys that back in the day were making more than I did,

Oh, hell yeah, absolutely. You know what this starting wage right now in Austin, Texas is for a brand new out of school. Software developer.

Easily 80 to a hundred.

Yeah. 120.

Yeah.

That's starting wage. Do you know what the Amazon,

like us, it really devalues our tenure and experience and everything else, but yes

starting wage in Amazon for a software engineer

140,

up right. College, no experience, but you know, it's com it's competitive because a lot of people wanna go to Amazon. You wish 190

God damn.

starting wage, right?

You know, I, I, I, I feel like I do pretty well, but that

you don't. No, nobody does. The, the average salary rate. I, I shouldn't say average, cuz it's not average. Let me rephrase that of people that have dual income that have white collar jobs, right.

do you know what a dink is?

Do income, no kids. Now I'm not talking about no kids. I'm talking about two people working in a family right now. White collar work,

Okay.

Right now is just over 300,000. That would be like a, a wife. Who's a realtor and a husband. Who's like a software developer. They're making 300 K a year right now.

That's depressing to me.

Well, I don't know. I mean, it's inflation. It's, it's what we've been predicting for a while. It's definitely there. We've officially hit over 21% inflation this year, according to shadow stats.

Well, it's depressing to me because you know, I'm making the two hundreds and I'm the sole provider and it's depressing because I think I'm damn good at what I do.

yeah. Well, and that's the thing is that, that there's no, like if you did what you're doing for one of the companies, you would never actually work for

Oh, that's the thing.

Google, Facebook Amazon, any of that ilk, then a person with your background and skillsets

but I could never work for those people. I could never work for those

So that, that is the salary that they pay for, you know, working for an evil corpor.

Mm. Yeah. I can't I can't bring myself to do that one. And, you know, I work for plenty evil enough corporation as it is, but you know, the, we, we have the Deb diversity equity, inclusion and belonging crap

Well, you're your sounds like that's just driven by the ownership of the company, which is BlackRock.

actually, yes, it is. We had a huge investment from BlackRock

not a hard guess.

when it started.

Yep. That's not a hard guess,

No, it's not,

I recently watched a very good video that I think I posted on no on social, that documentary about BlackRock, how it started, where it came from and how right now it is the largest company in the world.

When the shaved heads start, things gotta be up there.

Yeah. Is that one? We're gonna have a a hammer tosser running in and throwing a, a, a, a hammer at the screen Re references apple ad from 1984.

yeah, so yeah, the two men of hate man, so going back to the jump to shark moment

That's way too short. It ought be way more than two minutes.

well that's the book reference?

I know, I know, but I think that's UN unreasonably short

Yeah, well,

two hours is more like it.

So I, I unpack my office a little bit more today. So we've been in this house almost a year and I've been relying on virtual backgrounds to hide the boxes in my office, cuz I just haven't done it. But anyway, I I unpacked my books and got my PDP eight and PDP 11 up and running and did a lot of things this year or this last week. But go log Oak orgo, 1984, animal farm,

Mm-hmm

Anthem, all of that are sitting on the same shelf. Yeah, I mean to look at my bookshelf is to understand me.

Well, that's how it should be. I, I was watching a video of L with a completely crazy psycho chick who I guess, played poker for a while and as a

And by Lex, you mean Lex Friedman?

Yeah. Yeah. Likes frequent. Yeah, the local likes here in Austin and the the Ukrainian apologist and while the guest was completely insane. And it's funny to me when. People who are math smart start trying to talk philosophy. It's it's really fucking hilarious. And oh, cuz it, cuz they're idiots. That's why.

So I crack you up a lot, Jean

well you cracked me up for a lot of different reasons, but mostly it's the nuclear family it's, you know, I'm all for that. So anyway, she, the one thing that I thought was actually pretty good in there in that, in that episode was the hell was I talking about

So see when I

early on said dementia

Yeah.

again,

You accuse

old. I'm allowed.

lit, but you're,

You're clearly lit. I'm definitely not lit. I I'm not drinking this year. So there's nothing to be lit

So it's just the Alzheimer talking.

Oh yeah. It's totally Alzheimer's yeah, yeah, What were we talking about? We talked because I mentioned L because I was gonna go somewhere and I,

I have no idea where you were going, man, this

was the last topic

well, you kinda interrupted my topic so that I'm not sure which topic you're

was your topic? You gotta bring me back to

I was going through the books and talking, I was going to talk about a couple of things on my bookshelf and that sort of thing.

Books. Oh, yes. I remember now. Good, good callback. Lex had mentioned to her that he always thought that a great dating website would be good reads.

I completely agree.

Yeah. And I thought about it, even though I don't really use the site cuz I don't really read books these days, but I think that that's a great idea because it connects people that read the same books, which means you're gonna a have something to talk about B a similar worldview and C you're all nerdy introvert fucks who won't actually meet any other way.

you're all in cells

great idea.

yeah, no I like it, but I like it because, you know, I'm the kind of person that I, I, I read a lot.

Mm-hmm

Yeah, no, I

That's

good reads is great. That that's a fantastic use case. They should totally pivot.

yeah. I, I general, I like I've posted on there a couple times.

Well, what they need to do is they need to launch the dating app. Hey, you like good reads. Here's your monthly subscription to the

mm-hmm

Yeah.

my guess is most of the people on there single

well,

they have a lot of cats.

and, and not having sex. Yes. Agreed.

Well, I mean single or not, most people are just not having sex cuz when you're

weird, man.

that works? Is it though? Is it though?

Yeah. It is because, you know, when you look at like the, have you looked the shift so there's the whole, you know, the love languages thing. Right.

yep.

Okay. So physical touch and intimacy. Apparently according to that website has been dropping over the last

Mm-hmm

dramatically.

yes. Well that's cuz you're supposed to be wearing late latex gloves. Anytime you touched somebody

I, I mean, I won't say who, but someone close to me had a zero on that. It's like, how the, do you have a zero on physical touch and intimacy?

yeah,

And no, it was not my wife

no,

although it feels like it sometimes.

yeah, exactly. I don't half my conversations with my married friends, my married male friends,

mm-hmm

uh, is them bitching about the fact that they're not getting late

which

I have to keep remind them. How is this different than when you were single?

exactly.

You were a loser, then you're a loser now what do you want?

well, what the, why did you get married?

Well, clearly not

you're going to accept that as a status quo, then what the hell?

Huh. Uhhuh. I just, and I just firmly believe that men were not meant to be monogamous. And I don't mean that in the cheating, on your spouse way. I just, I don't, I, I just think that

I

shouldn't be engaged in long term relationships. That's all

I think we've discussed on the podcast before,

discussed this with everybody. Oh, oh, divorce. Well, I mean, yes, we have discussed why we got divorced just cuz of playing video games all the time. But

why, but okay.

no, well that was, that was definitely a big, very part of the reason why. But yes. So I, I think that if people didn't have expectations that came out of Disney movies for marriage, if they treated marriage more, the way that Italians treated it back in the 1920s

What about those of us who have expectations out of the, you know, Ephesians five, for example,

outta what,

Ephesians five.

what is that?

It's a book in the Bible, gene.

Oh, I don't know that one. That's that's a must be a Christian thing.

it is

Yeah, there you go.

anyway, go on,

Yeah. So, why, what does it say if you're so keen on bringing it up that doesn't even sound like a real Bible book Ephesians. How do you spell that?

Oh, Jesus Christ are gonna make me spell Ephesians right now.

What you, I think you're just making this shit up.

Hold on. I'm Googling it cuz I do not wanna misspell it. I don't want the wrath of so it's E

P H E S I a N S is my guess, but go ahead.

Yeah, yeah. That's exactly right. Anyway, Ephesians five is all about what a biblical marriage is supposed to look like. And you know, the two becoming one flesh and the man not hating his own body and being the head of the household and so on. You know, which is not popular with everyone by any stretch of the imagination.

And by hating his own body, you mean he should be masturbating a lot?

No. The, the meaning there is that by his wife being part of his own body and no man hitting himself and surely, no man has ever hated himself. That's the phrase,

Plenty of men hate their wives.

but they shouldn't because they should consider them part of their, an extension of their own body.

Well, if they were, they'd be up for sex a lot more wouldn't they much as a man's right. Hand tends to be

Right left, you know,

both hands, you know, Omni, Omni, handedness. Yeah, exactly. No, look, it it's, it's always been an old joke that says you know, there's a, there's a a happy couple that that's sitting in a restaurant and they've got another couple with them there. And the guy just proposes to the girl and they're super happy. And girls go off to the bathroom. Guys are sitting there alone. It's like, yeah, this is so awesome. You know, just had the best sex today.

kids are definitely a challenge. They, they add some challenge to it. That's

know for a fact that the, the handful of guys I know who have five kids or more, I can tell you exactly how many times they've had sex with their wives.

five

Mm-hmm yep.

well, you know,

This is, this is the curse of the potent sperm.

mm-hmm

Every time you have sex, you, you make a kid and it curses those men to never have sex.

well, don't, don't, don't make judgements for all relationships because I know plenty of, I, I know plenty who are, and I'm not even talking about myself here, but friends and friends, and so on that seemed to reproduce a lot, so.

yes, but I don't think reproduction is correlated with the regularity of sex.

Okay.

Reproduction is generally more of a correlation with their political convictions.

In, in what way?

Statistically,

Who, who do you? No, no, no. What I'm saying is who do you think is getting laid

the liberals don't have five kids.

No, they don't.

No.

You think they're having more sex?

Oh yeah, yeah.

Mm, I don't know.

Yep.

Well, I mean,

you know, more is a relative term. It's it's and what you mean by sex, but there they're definitely having it more frequently. You could argue the

liberal chicks,

What? Yeah, I mostly screwed liberal I'm I've mostly fucked liberal chick.

so you like the blue hair and the big

You know what? I fucked a lot of blue hair, a lot of white hair on some red hair and pink hair.

red. Red.

definitely.

Yeah. Red.

I don't mean that red. I don't mean the red. You like, I mean the like a hot pink, red.

Yeah, no,

Yeah, no, I've look there's I've I've for a period of time referred to my blue checks or my blue hairs when referring to a gaggle of these that I didn't wanna identify by name.

Oh man.

yeah, no, I'm, I'm a total misogynist as far as all married women are concerned. Yeah. But you know, the blue hairs like it

I

I take 'em to vegan restaurants. Dude. I take 'em to vegan restaurants. They, they dig it.

you do not

hell I do. Absolutely.

Mr. Mediater is going to a vegan restaurant

some great Indian vegan places in Austin.

in Indian food. Okay. I, I can, I, I can follow that. I can agree with that,

yeah. You know, I was a vegetarian for like, three years, right?

So you're a masochist. Got it.

No, I was a Buddhist at the time.

Okay. Like I said, I'm masochist.

Well, I mean, Buddhism's not really masochism. That would be more Catholicism, but you know, I did the whole diet thing.

No, thank you. You know, every vegan kid I've ever seen or a very vegetarian children

wanna punch 'em right.

Huh?

You just wanna punch 'em.

No, they're just

Oh, that's what I mean.

and low IQ.

Yeah.

You have to have protein for brain development.

I think you need cholesterol from brain development. Not so

same thing, but you get cholesterol from animal protein.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. You, you can't get that from vegetables.

Not vegetable protein.

No.

No, I agree. I, I think that, you know, and as much as your views are not mainstream, I tend to agree with them. See what I just did there.

Yeah, I do. I do. I'm following I'm following Uhhuh.

Oh man, this is the other thing is I will say that the one thing that these, these Mexican resorts figured out very well is not to serve Mexican food. It's awesome.

yeah. Well, I mean, if they did wouldn't it, especially since you're in Mexico, wouldn't it just be called food

It would. Well, it would, well, I guess, I mean, you know, there there's, there's definitely some differentiation there with Mexican food because. Most Mexicans don't consider what Americans consider Mexican food to be the food that they would call a Mexican food.

especially in Texas. It's very much

Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's text me,

You don't have a lot of moles and all that, so yeah.

Yeah. If you talk to an actual called Mexican city, Mexican, they don't consider what most of Mexican eats as Mexican food.

no, they want on them. All ears and everything else. Yeah. Totally

Yeah. Very, very different. A lot more Spanish influence.

Mm-hmm

So, but I'm, I'm happy with my standard European food,

yeah. So what, what's the

herring, cheeses, cold meats, you know, regular stuff.

What's the resort you're staying at. Tell us

I'm not gonna, I'm gonna name

don't have to give the name, but describe.

It's on the beach.

Wow. So VRBO,

I mean, you

your picture. It's

on the beach. There, there are several swimming pools, I think four maybe plenty of cabanas and things.

it's the beach topless.

no, of course not Mexico doesn't have top of beaches. Well, I'm sure they have some, but no,

right.

this ain't

You're staying at theor regime.

Yeah. I'm I, yeah. I don't know, man. I don't think I've ever stayed on the Mexican resort. That was topless. I mean, I've stayed in. Jamaica resorts that were I've stayed in.

I, I, I honestly wouldn't know. I've never been to Mexico, so

yeah. Mexico's kind of Catholic.

yeah, it's just not destination for me. Well, no shit. Mexico's Catholic. This is a revelation to you,

It's cheap. And two hours away, dude. I don't, you

the, the fact that Mexico is Catholic is a revelation.

well, no, it's not a revolution, a revolution or a

the revolution's coming, but I meant revelation. So

but no, I, I was just trying to clarify that for you, in case you didn't realize why they don't have apples beaches, and I will say this, so Mexican women of the newly adult age look really hot, at least a good chunk of 'em do. But when you look at their moms, you know exactly what they're gonna turn into.

Yeah. Don't ever look at your fiance's mom, if you're looking to get married.

Oh, you should always that's bad advice. Always check your fiance's

advice.

Best thing you could do is actually have sex with both of them, but barring that

If you do that, you're definitely not getting married.

intimately, intimately familiar with your fiance's mom's body, because you're gonna need to be working that before, too.

Mm-hmm mm-hmm

You know, just sticking your head in the sand is not a good approach.

and, well, I mean, I don't know. I,

Who's who's like the hottest old chick that you've seen, like an actress or a, you know, somebody famous,

Ooh, what age bracket?

I don't know, forties, fifties, not older than that

Forties or fifties. Geez. Who is the chick from first contact?

first contact. From first contact star Trek,

No, the movie,

first contact. I dunno what that movie is.

Sure.

Is that the one with the aliens that are atop pluses?

No. Anyway she was also Nell.

Nell Nell and what?

Nell was the name of the movie

Okay, so here's what you do, you Google Nell. Oh, Jody foster.

Jody foster. There you go.

That's not first contact. It's called contact

whatever.

Jesus. It's a Carl Sagan book. You gotta know those things. Yeah. Jody foster, honestly, she's looking kind of old right now, but up until she was, let's say 45, she looked really good.

I I'm basing her off of like contact and Nell

Well, she was 30 in that.

Okay. Well,

Yeah. That's not that old. I think Jennifer Aniston

Jennifer. Francis's doing good. Yeah. Yeah.

now

and Julie.

fifties. No, Angela and Julie looks like a dead person walking. She looks like a corpse, but I, I think Aniston managed to do a very good job of keeping her body looking young and minimizing the amount of plastic surgery. So it doesn't make her look like she's fake. boobs are great too. Those are totally fake.

I mean, does it really matter?

You know, it depends it, it matters more to some people than others.

Jennifer Connolly, I watched top gun two last night, Jennifer,

oh, she's in that. Is she? Okay. I have to, I have not seen that. I've heard good things

it, it, it is actually a pretty good movie.

I wonder if it's, is it, is it out of the theaters or is it still in the

You can buy it on Amazon prime

I'm just wondering if it's gonna be in the airplane at all

it's on prime for 20 bucks. So,

20 bucks. Fuck that shit. What do they think of made of money?

Well, you know,

20 bucks? That's like a box of ammo.

not anymore, but okay.

Mm-hmm prices have been going down by the way. I've noticed

yeah, they actually have, it's been pretty decent drop and good chance to stock up before it goes

yeah. Especially if you buy a thousand at a time,

Mm.

price discounts are good at that

Yeah. And, you know,

Speaking of a gun's an ammo.

Mm-hmm

Uh, when are we gonna have Ben on? Ben the gun guy.

He's a, he's an interesting guy.

I've been talking to him online and he is looking for a gun for me right now

Good. Yeah, no this is a guy I work with by the way. And he he's he and I have very similar political views and in a walkish

listens to our podcast.

you think so?

Well, he talked about it to me the other day.

Oh,

He was asking me questions about the last episode.

That cool.

Yeah.

I I knew he,

him we definitely need to get him on as a

Cool. Yeah. Maybe in the first couple episodes of the new show,

There you go. Sounds good. Either that, or I'll just get him on by myself and I'll do a Seine speak solo with the guest dude named Ben. Yes. That would be hilarious. Actually. Okay.

I'm very

Ben. Yeah, I can tell

bin with Ben.

Uhhuh. So Ben, I hear you're a drop in from Ben's everywhere. So let's just pick up from the last show then. Exactly. But yeah, he seems like a good guy. I love, I love the fact that he's a an FFL, which makes it convenient for me to just tell him what I'm looking for

Mm-hmm

and then to you know how I'm just gonna keep an eye out as things come out.

yeah. I mean, he, I mean, he owns a gun store, so yeah, he,

Well, that would be an FFL. Yeah.

yeah. He's, he's got some variability there to help you out.

I also think I found the first gun that I'm kind of interested in getting that would require a stamp.

What's that?

It is a here, let me look it up. It's a Caltech nine millimeter. It's like a CQB or something like that or something

this require a stamp?

Integrated suppressor

Eh,

it, oh, it's yeah, it's the CQB. It's the sub QB. So it is a folding gun,

Mm-hmm

uh, where the barrel folds back on the gun itself. So it it's, you know, eight inches by six inches when it's folded and it has an integrated suppressor. So that's kind of a neat gun, right?

it is, but I mean, why are you looking at FFL items?

I've been looking at 'em for a while. I, I, I need to start putting suppressors in.

So have you looked into the Texas law at all that allows, you know, suppressors built, made and staying in the state to be legal FFL?

I have not, but I'm also more worried about certain government agencies with three letters that we discussed disagreeing with those Texas laws.

Fair enough. But what I would say is let them enforce it. You've got a good, you've got a really good case to be made that, Hey, there's a state law that explicitly allows me to do this. You know, the solvent trap sort of thing. The oil filters are sort of thing. Lots of, lots of directions you can go with that are, you know, actually machining or 3d printing. Your own suppressor is perfectly illegal in the state of Texas. And if said three letter agencies, aren't going after marijuana.

what makes you think they're not going after marijuana?

Because

Da is absolutely got Texas missions happening right now.

I'm sorry.

The DEA is operating in Texas right now.

Well, Texas marijuana is illegal in Texas,

Yeah.

but I mean, for instance, California Colorado, Maryland many other states have driver's license, driver's

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

that are required to go into dispensary. So they know exactly who is consuming. And they're not doing anything about it. I think that Washington state where the cameras are on the goods and there's an ATM there and, you know, no driver's license is required is the way to do it personally,

Yeah.

that, that, that is one law that Washington state got very right.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's also inconvenient cuz you can't just, you know, use a credit card to buy your weed in, in Washington.

Yeah, you can,

I, I couldn't

then you went to the wrong dispensary. They, they will take

went to four of

of people want to do cash.

No, I went to four different ones and none of them did.

Well, in the Seattle area, they definitely take card.

Hmm. Well either way.

I speak from experience or.

Oh well there you go. See, I do. Cause that's where I did my experiment that I told you about previously

mm-hmm

a bunch of edibles of different strengths and then did a

you're just that, that Russian Uber mench

Well, I just have a genetic differentiation factor. Mm-hmm yeah, I got bit by a radioactive spider one day.

gamer radiation hit you

Mm-hmm exactly. It's part of the training in an agency. I've never been a part of.

Yes. Yeah.

So, yeah, the I was kind of surprised cause I figured every they're so like everywhere in Seattle, you know, in the wall in Washington state, in fact, you can't drive through a little town without seeing a pot shop.

what's the little old ladies.

I that's why I've heard. Yeah.

Yeah.

It's it's a pain reliever.

Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm not even joking my experience in touring different venues as it were. Not that I'm, it's just not my thing.

You're such a bug head, whatever

no, never have been had had roommates in college that were, and things like that. But me personally, no, it's never been a thing for me. But you know, the amount of. People over 50 in said, locations

mm-hmm

is the majority. I mean, it really is.

yeah. Yeah. Well, it makes sense. It makes sense. Cuz I think the kids are doing harsher drugs.

I don't know that I'd say that, but I'd say that the kids get in and get out and the older people hang out and the older people are, it's a different use case. I, I think there are a lot of arthritics that really like pot,

Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. But also I do think like the kids are using more of the you know, the drugs that give you more bang for the buck.

nah, the kids are going in and getting their THC vape cartridges and getting out the only people who buy flour or edibles and things like that are in their forties or fifties, probably,

Well, yeah, at those shops, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Cause I, I think that there there's a lot more meth that's being sold in the Washington state than marijuana.

maybe. But I, I mean that's so for me and my age group that's just an OGO, it's

See, the problem is you're too young to have been around doing the cocaine days.

Why is that a problem?

Cuz you missed out on some good shit.

yeah, well, cocaine in my personality type would probably not go very well.

goes well for every personality type.

no, dude, that, that would in violence for me, most likely

I don't know, man. I think your skin might turn green, but other than that, you'd be all good to go.

Yeah. I don't know, man. I

You're pretty mellow, pretty mellow, but I don't know, man, I it's that. That's the thing is

everyone who actually knows me. Who's listening to this podcast and you calling mellow is sitting there rolling their eyes going gene. Have you admit Ben?

Well, actually I have, but

Yeah, I have

consider you Meow. I think you bought me a drink once

I did actually.

Yeah.

Nope. We met at

memory like a

in Austin.

Yeah. At a bar.

At a brewery. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Next to the ice skating rink.

and a few other people. Yeah.

Mm-hmm

Yeah.

yeah. It's that is, I remember that day, like there's so damn many people that wanted to talk to Adam that he was cold standing around, outside and chitchatting and and people were taken forever to talk. So I ended up leaving early.

Well, so I actually, it didn't even end up talking to Adam. I talked to Tina a little bit, but what I did was I walked up, handed him an envelope with my donation, donation note, and a challenge coin and said, thank you and walked away because he was definitely hit up and I didn't wanna be that guy. That's, you know,

mm-hmm

whatever, you know, it just here, man. Thank you for what you're doing. I appreciate it done.

Exactly. Yeah. I think it's been like a year. Last time I talked to him, like in person, it's been a damn long time.

You're on the outs. Got it.

I am, I am. Well, I'm not, you know, I'm, I'm not the handler these days. So I, I don't really have

the, the, the responsibility has been moved to

Yeah. But yeah, no, that's

Is gonna have to totally be a trope in the new show. You realize this, right?

I don't, I don't like giving people free air time.

Just make it a trope. It's a running joke. It's fun. He's going to listen to every single minute just to hear

he's not gonna listen. No, he'll, he'll hear the first five minutes, his name and he'll assume that's the only time we talk about 'em he's not gonna listen to the

I'll bet you a box. I ammo differently.

I don't think so. Well not unless you like, send him a message saying, and by the way, make sure you listen to an hour and a half

I won't send him a message. I bet you, I get a message

we'll see

you in Russian. He didn't say this. That's what I did

rushing heal. How does, how does he not consider you to be carrying water for Putin?

I, that, that's a very good question. I mean, I guess I'm more fair, balanced than you are.

fair and balanced. Just like Fox news.

Yes, exactly. I, I am. I am the Goldstein. I am the controlled or Goldberg. I am the controlled opposition regardless 1984, whoever the controlled opposition was. I can't remember right now.

Yep. Goldberg. Yeah. You're you you're you're the Fox to my RT. Uhhuh

you mean the RT to your Getty images?

GI images. Yeah, exactly. It was something I watched recently that, oh, it was a temple episode where the, the guy,

You watched Tim pole, Jean. Are you okay?

I know I's shocker, right. This was a few days ago, but there was an episode where the guy that was the podium guy who was really a lectern guy.

Yes. I just almost,

you saw that. Okay. If you're not smoking weed right now, I don't know what that cough was.

I'm not smoking weed

It sure. Sounds like it. Okay. Snorting right in your nose as you're laughing without smoking weed, that's that's some kind of trick learned there. So

the like turned guy. I was, I was actually taking a drink and you said lectern guy and it made me laugh. And therefore I inhaled. And you

Got it. Okay. Yes. Unlike bill Clinton. Exactly. Right. So the the Lecter guy in that episode, God damnit, you're meeting me lose train of thought. What were you talking about? Podiums, Lecter guy

lectern guy,

talking

which by the way, that was a bad guest.

oh, the Lecter guy. Yeah. He was very apologetic.

Boring as fuck.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I thought

I'm sure that this podcast is gonna get many comments saying the same thing, but you

uh, probably, probably, yeah, well look, nobody, other than two of us watched Tim pool anyway, and most people really dislike him. Every comment I get is like the pool boy, this and the pool boy that it's like, okay, no, it's you keep calling him that. And, and you know, his, his income and fame keep rising, so that's fine.

Well, you know, I've been watching him more. Definitely. Man, he just screams project Mockingbird to me in lots of ways. I don't know why.

I don't know why. I really don't

Ian,

Ian is that retired friend that you've had since kindergarten and well, he is he will say the darnest things while keeping a straight face,

Hmm.

his sentences typically start off in the first three, four words sounding like he's going somewhere with a point. And then he takes a sharp two 70 turn.

Yeah.

And it's like, what, what the fuck? How did you get to that conclusion? Ian? Based on what you just said, that that's a non

word graphing.

Oh, and graphine, you take a, yeah. Every time he says that you gotta take a drink or every time Tim pull says revolution, you gotta take a drink.

You mean civil war?

Civil war. Yes. That's right. Civil war. You gotta take a drink. Yeah. And, but they're self-aware or at least Tim is self-aware of that stuff. I don't know how Ian is. Self-aware

oh, Ian has to me is not self-aware

I don't think he is

I mean, there's no way he could show his, if he was self-aware there's no way he shows his face on that show

But a lot of people love him. You know, a lot of people send positive comments to like, yeah. Ian bounces this thing out and it's

balances out to what? The low IQ

intellect. Yeah, exactly. Bounces IQ to, to a hundred.

I mean, so, okay. So the special needs class really like, see it, don't get it. Oh

Yeah,

And you know what, man, here, here's the thing. He's fine. As a person, I like him. Fine enough. His personality, the way he comes off is fine. But the things he chooses to talk about are just

yeah.

so absurd to me that it's, it really makes it hard for me to watch the rest of the show.

His conclusions almost never are logical outcome of his prepositions. It's virtually never. I mean, there might be something graphing related in there, but generally he'll start talking about something that's related to the topic conversation and that, that you can never predict just what direction that sharp turn is gonna go towards, but you know, it's not gonna be at all logical.

Yeah. It, it really, it it's a trope at this point, you know, it it's something that they're using to their own benefit in

I, I think so, but that's, that's the question though. It's like, if Ian's not self-aware then is this really just, you know, child abuse by.

child abuse, sir.

Well in terms of IQ level. Yeah.

Wow.

You know, because Ian's, if he's not self-aware then he clearly is a child because remember we've had this conversation, children become sentient thread around five years old.

you think he's got Nike less than a five year old? Got it.

Well, you know, I made you do math, but you know what the number I'm thinking of,

Yeah.

but of course, people that know what IQ means that they realize that an IQ is not is not a small number. And that grows over time.

Well, an IQ does not scale with age, you know, the, the men requirements are a perfect example where they have the math entirely wrong because they, they allow children with lower IQs in, but that's not the way IQ actually works. So,

the other way around,

yeah, exactly. You should actually have higher requirements for younger ages based off of IQ.

although, I guess one would have to do a study to determine what is the progression of IQs in adults throughout their lifetimes.

So it, it's interesting, it peaks around your mid twenties and then falls off. So the IQ scale is actually garnered around bachelor graduate age. I E around 22 ish, is that whatever the average IQ score is at 22, that age range, that is the average IQ. So

that, that wouldn't be accurate then, because for the majority of your life, you would have an IQ average IQ of less than a hundred.

correct?

So then the real

on where you would land on the scale to

thirties or forties. Yeah. But I mean, if you're,

It's not age adjusted. So the IQ scale is

if it's relative well, yeah. So it's not age adjusted, but that would still mean that it's being sampled at the wrong time, because it's not sampled at the average IQ over the course of a lifetime of a person. Cuz if, if you're say your IQ is average and it's somewhere in the hundreds, you know, 95 to 110, when you're young, it peaks at 111 and then drops down to 98 in adulthood.

my allergies are killing me, so I apologize. But what I would say is that everybody goes off of their peak IQ. That's what the natural course of events are.

Yeah it's not, I mean, you can't really call a hundred and average then if that average is calculated at the peak of people's performance,

well,

like saying the average a, the average athlete is,

peak and personal peak are two different things.

well, they, they could be, but if the, if for the average person, the personal peak is a particular point in time, then the average for that person is not guaranteed 100% now to be at the peak.

Okay.

Right. And if that's the average for an individual that then the average of the population, I, I, I, a hundred AQ shouldn't be based at the peak either.

Well, when should it be based? What

It should be based at the a 38 years old.

Y 38?

Well, that's, that's the Avi, that's the midpoint of your life prior to ility?

Unless you're Joe Biden

Well, if you're a special case with no brain, then, you know, I guess you're a scarecrow. Do you not see a scarecrow every time you look at Biden?

from the Batman movies.

No. From wizard of Oz,

I only had a brain. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha.

had to walk you to that one. Anyway, we talk about IQ way too much. And I, I remember I sent you a

very insecure about it.

yes, we're clearly insecure because we know it's falling for both of us. And I sent you a graph a while ago that showed the the, what was it? The, the relevance of IQ or the, the amount of time spent talking about IQ and the

versus actual IQ. Yes.

Yeah. Versus actual IQ. And the, and the peak is right around people that have an IQ of a hundred, five and, and it diminishes as people actually get smarter and it diminishes as people get dumber. So it's like, if you're just slightly over a hundred, then you end up talking about high IQ all the time. So I think there, then we might need to stop talking about IQ. talk about Jews instead.

I'm sorry, what

said, let's talk about Jews instead.

you mean? Like Ben Shapiro at

Yeah. Ben Shapiro, he's a smart guy. Isn't.

yeah. You heard about him, right?

No. What, what, what, what's the latest

he showed up at podcast movement and walked through and caused a ho or fle and

oh, I did not hear

for violence.

no way. What,

Yes. They literally tweeted an apology. Like he committed a violent act by

he was a podcast movement and I didn't go God damnit.

He was at podcast movement in

was in Dallas this year, too. Fuck.

Walked through the

Yeah, man. I got an invite to that.

a huge sin. I don't know.

Wow. I can't believe he went to that

Well, he didn't officially go. He was just in the public areas, walked through, said hello to some people who were at his booth that he paid for, for the daily wire. And it was a big to do

That's all I totally should. Again.

well, Adam and Dave Jones were there. So why didn't

Yeah, I heard, I heard they were there.

Yeah, they, they were at a the, their they were not main track. Let's just put it that way.

Oh, really

Yeah.

out that

it was the, their, their PR their presentation time was at lunchtime and around the

Hmm.

in a

the corner. Okay. Well, they were also talking about leaving the hotel to get better.

they were, but you know, it's interesting that they weren't asked to go. It was one of the hosting companies that offered up a speaking spot that they gave them. So that, that's, that's interesting. Man, I'll just say that the ESG and the corporate movement is very, very strong,

Mm-hmm

so I don't know.

go podcasting. Well,

Mic

to be fair, Adam's been making fun of it for a long time. So

ESG or the go podcasting.

go podcasting,

Yeah. Well, I mean, the big falter with podcasting in my mind comes from Leo. Leo really was a pretty big name that shot himself in the foot.

he he's a Californian though. He's a Californian. So he, I don't know if he shot himself in the foot.

oh, he totally shot himself

Oh, you mean with the wife or what, what do you mean

no, no, no. So I, I grew up watching the screensavers and him and Kate Patello. I mean, I have a signed picture of him and Kate Patello from when I was on the show as a kid and lots of other things. But I mean, I, in my mind growing up when I grew up, Leo was, you know, someone very important to me and I don't listen to a single TWI podcast anymore.

No, no, no, no. I don't either.

But I'm just, but I'm saying culturally for someone like me who grew up watching the screensavers grew up really into it. You know, was just there all the time. That was one of my go-to things for him to lose someone like me, who should be fanboy, number one over here. I think that says something. That's all I'm saying.

well, why did he lose you?

Damn liberal.

Yeah. So, and that's what I meant by Californian. I, I think he lost some listeners viewers when he started sending Dick pics to his

Yeah. I don't care about the whole wife thing and all

Yeah. And then swapped wives and then but his politics are definitely very Californian.

He is way too woke

Yeah. And I, I mean,

you know, and you know, Steve Gibson GRC, and this is coming from someone who's in the cyber security realm. GRC gets way too much shit. Occasionally. He gets things. Right. And I am one of those people that I am not going to just rag on him to rag on him. It's like racking on Joe Weiss. If anyone gets the reference, you know?

Well, yeah, I mean, I made fun of him a lot and I, I haven't listened to him for ages, but he was just blatantly wrong a lot of time. Back when I was involved in InfoSec it was

agree. I mean, the entire idea of shields up is, you know, and stealth port, well, first of all, you should call it cloaked. If you're really a Truckee and, you know, anyway, there, there are lots of things he, you know, open sockets or, oh my God, it's gonna be the of the world. All that completely agree. He should be. You know, that, that is a contentious point that you should take up with him, but what he created with

he was not a, he was never a security. Spin write his disc product was what he made

mean snake oil.

on. Well, whatever you wanna call it. But he, he here's what he didn't know. Right. Is he knew how to write assembly language programs. He knew the hardware communication architecture,

Sure. And when rewriting sectors on a hard drive was a thing, it was a valid

exactly,

hasn't been since

That's what he made a lot of money in. He made hundreds of millions of that and that is he did. He did absolutely do what? Check it up. Look it up. Look it up.

I show me where the man is worth over a million dollars and I will be

it up. You look it up. You will see. Anyway. Then I think his interest based on personal experience started going into this like, well, I'm sitting here on the internet with no firewall, cuz it's my home connection. Wow. Look at all this shit flying back and forth.

well, and you know, to be fair when he found the first spyware as he calls it, which I, that that's revisionist history. But the fact of the matter is that, you know, the picks was the firewall of the day and it was blacklist only. It was not a whitelist, only firewall is not an implicit deny. It was an implicit allow.

yep.

Yeah. I still have picks 5 0 5 sitting in my lab.

Right.

Yeah. Yeah. I packed all my lab gear

I remember all, I remember those things.

I've got a ASA. I've got some Palo Alto

can't remember. I had a, there was a, there's an IDs device that I used to configure for I'm trying to remember the name of the company. It was something like Elron is it was, they were actually owned by,

Hubbard. I mean, what

they were owned by by Israeli military.

ah, Jesus, what, what, what cybersecurity product? Isn't Israeli.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, fair enough. But back in the day, they were really the first IPS or ID IDs. It was pre IPSS. So it was first IDs that was did not require compilation. It was pre-compiled. It was pre

Are, are you talking about like, shit, I can't remember what it was named before sofa bought them, but a star, the, a star gateway.

No. Nope. It was called. I wanna say Elron something like that.

There is not a cyber security product that was called Elron. I can tell you that.

there, well, it was something like that. I can't remember the exact name, but it's also

onion? I mean, I I'm trying to track

no, this was, this was when you were a weed lad. This would've been 95, 19 95, 95.

Yeah. So I was doing baby's first hack about then, you

Mm-hmm

and

exactly. You were born. What? Five years before that

a little over 10, but

Uhhuh Uhhuh.

Yeah, I mean, shit man. HD Moore, you know? Oh, anyway, I'll, I'll tell a story about that sometime. Came up on no agenda social about Ruby Ridge.

Hm.

I don't know if you saw that or that interaction.

I don't recall now.

So yeah, it came up on no, no agenda social about Ruby Ridge and,

Mm-hmm

how it was a meme. And I made a comment that, you know, Hey, I actually have met. No couple people from that. And I actually got challenged on it and I was like, well, you know, I,

What the people saying bullshit. You don't know anything.

yeah, pretty much, but no, Jack GLM Jack GLM was actually my first employer. I don't know if I've ever told you that.

yeah. You've mentioned that a few times.

Okay. Anyway. Yeah, no,

mean, I, I know that you were infinitely involved with that whole Waco thing.

No, I was

I mean, Ruby rich thing that, that Ruby rich thing.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I wasn't directly involved with Ruby Ridge, but I

Oh, no. I'm thinking of a video game I played.

three, three specifically, but

Yep.

Anyway, it, it was just interesting because it's like, no, I, I, I actually, Jack MCLE when he died was a person I actually shed tears for because Jack MCLE is and was officer friendly and just a fantastic human being. Like he, he's the kind of person you want in law enforcement, Bo rights is an, a egotist. And I, I have known Bo for a long time. I, I don't

Can you get him on podcast?

I'm sorry.

Can you get him on the podcast?

I wouldn't,

I I'd be curious to see what he is thinking about Ukraine.

I, I probably could, but I don't know that I would want to, if Jack were alive, I would definitely get Jack on.

Mm-hmm

Um, so I lived less than half a mile from Beau for many years. His wife, Claudia at the time. I knew him when he tried to shoot himself which there's a whole story behind that. Let me tell you anyway, and I've met Randy Weaver on more than one occasion,

can you get a him on the podcast?

Randy Weaver? No, I don't know him that

No.

No, I, it, I'm sorry.

Timothy McQuay?

I think he's still in jail. Isn't he?

Well doesn't mean you can't interview him, right?

Ah, I think it does.

Well, no, no, no, no. He just can't be paid for it. Yeah, no, they can dude, prisoners do interviews all the time.

okay. Well I, no, I don't know Tim McFee and I,

Oh, okay.

I know Randy Weaver enough to say that I've met him a couple of times and shaking his hand and talked to him, but that's about it.

How about Edward Snowden? Do you know him?

No, but I think he's a hero and I did meet actually his director at an a and M cybersecurity conference where we ended up in a verbal battle after his speech in the hallway that I really wish was recorded.

The battle in the hallway or his speech was in the hallway?

No I, we had a verbal debate in the hallway and it was, it was one of those that I just, it, it, I, it was good. I, I would've loved to have published that. That's all I'm gonna say

no, you could still write it up.

I could, but you know, it's not the same. I mean, seeing him sitting there wagging his finger in my face and me just sitting there going, yeah. Huh? You have no argument here. Anyway, it, it would've been it YouTube gold had I had it recorded

this is what I find people often don't realize, or they don't, I don't know. Maybe they do realize it is that most people that are wrong, they show very blatant use of assumptions.

mm-hmm

In their argument, construction aggression can be used as a tactic as well, but generally the, it, it like, it shouldn't take a, a genius by any stretch to be able to see the flaws in their arguments, because most of the flaws aren't really logical fallacies there. They're, they're just simply assumptions being made.

So the way this all got started was he was giving a presentation at the security cyber security summit at a and M this was under Ragsdale. The only year they had it. And he gave this talk about how we should give up our privacy for, you know, safety and, yeah. Yeah. So what I stood up and asked afterwards says, so what I heard you say is that the us government is never wrong and that we should always give up our freedoms and our Liberty for safety and security

Mm-hmm

uh, Twitch. He had no answer and I challenged him on the constitutionality of it and told him what I thought of him. And regardless we headed to a break afterwards and I went out in the hallway and a coworker of mine was with me on this. And he walked out, found me in the hall and started dressing me down and wagging his finger in my face and telling me how I was wrong. And. to, you know, moth the floor with him and it was fun. I, I really wish someone would've recorded it.

Well, it would've been now cuz there's security cameras everywhere.

Well, I'm sure a and M had a security camera recording, but that

What? You should just done a freedom of information act, request

I didn't bother at the time, and this is years ago and they're not gonna have it now.

now probably not. Although maybe Trump's got it in his house. I hear, I hear, he just likes to steal things from the national archive.

Trump's a lept maniac. Didn't doesn't everyone know that

That's I heard that's how he got his gold toilet in this house.

from Putin.

No. Yeah. For Putin. Exactly. You got it

Putin and Putin.

Uhhuh. Yeah. And on that note, I think we'll wrap this podcast up and then like I said, we'll, we'll let you guys know. Once the flip is made and I. For a few episodes anyway, I'll continue running it. Sir, Jean speaks as well.

yeah, Gene's ready to have his own show back.

I kinda am. I I, well, yes and no. I mean, I, there's nothing stopping me from putting out solo episodes as well, but I kind of, I, I, I would like to try and get back to just doing some of that as well. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Maybe maybe I'm just gonna keep launching more podcasts using Seine speaks and then

the surgeon speaks random thoughts, crossover

yeah. Well, you know, speaking of random thoughts you saw that that came in dead last place on no agenda social in terms of rate the hosts that people like the most

I did not. No, I didn't see

oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a poll that was run. And

That has to hurt Darren very deeply personally.

well, no other, no you're missing the point. It of all the hosts that Darren does a show with, which, which is your favorite and the least favorite of all was me

really,

like only 5% of the people liked the unrelenting podcast.

I don't believe that. I think that show gets more listens than not.

Well,

I definitely think it gets more listens than planet rage.

Yeah. According to the stats that show gets I don't think it gets more listens. I think that's the one that he does with Bemrose, but it gets more donations coming through Bitcoin than any other show.

Huh?

Yeah. But not cash donation, everybody canceled their cash donations. I thought the finally people are starting to listen to me cuz I've been telling 'em for months, don't send money, just send water and blankets.

so quick question to the audience, and if anyone cares to give feedback, I would appreciate it. Dude, at name bend.com. Should we go live? Should we find a time that works and put it on the live stream or keep doing prerecorded?

Yeah. I mean that, my, my only concern about doing livestream is it gives that, that Polish spy a chance to listen to us in real time.

yeah. Well there there's that. And you know, me with little kids and everything else, we gotta, the time, the flex, the advantage of prerecording, like this is, you know, like this weekend we can skip around. So

it can be done, you know, I think there's actually more slots available. Not during business hours, believe it or not. Cuz most people at podcasts seem to have no jobs. And so consequently, most podcasts on the no gen network at least are done during business hours.

well we both know business hours are a no go for me. So, and you know, for you, it's flexible right now, but

I'll have a job as well right now. And I'm unemployed.

yeah. Right. I think your next job's in space, right?

Well, I'm, you know, I'm working on it. That's how I wouldn't quite call it a job. It may require me to put money in not the other way around, but but it is a space related thing, you know, I

by the way, what are you gonna watch Monday

watch Monday. What's Monday. I'm flying Monday.

The Artis launch is

oh, they're they're doing a test.

Yep.

Oh, okay. Well it depends what time? I mean, I'm, I'm flying Monday, so

8:00 AM Pacific or not Pacific Eastern. Sorry. Eastern, Eastern

oh eight Eastern I'm I might watch the replay that's way too early.

Well, you know,

re I watched the, the the Falcon launch yesterday. Live

yeah. So when SpaceX did their first man launch,

mm-hmm

I was driving back from Dallas and I, I headed up on my phone on YouTube driving very responsibly. And I dude, I, that brought tears to my eyes.

Oh yeah, totally. No, I I've watched, I'd say, well, I mean, I can, I can definitely say based on the. other than the last few months, cause I've been really fucking busy for the last few months, but other than that, I've watched every other SpaceX launch. They're so I've probably missed like 15 of them. I'd say total. And I wanna say they've done roughly 160 launches, so I've probably watched about 145 of those

Now I will say this, the blue origin launches I've watched exactly one and that was the one chat was on, you know, I'm not in interested in

They're not

symbol going

Exactly. It's a giant penis for Jeff Bezos flying up into the sky

he's overcompensating. We'll just leave it

yeah, think a little bit,

That is

where he had a, he had, he has a Cod piece for fuck's sake.

dude. That is the biggest overcompensation in the history of the world.

It's, it's worse than any sports car, but no, if you watch like Jeff Bezos in interviews about Amazon 20 years ago, and it's just little squirly dude with nothing in the front pants And you watch Dave Bezos doing a keynote presentation on Amazon or, or blue origin these days, the guy looks like he's packing about a 12. I mean, I swear to God, he is walking around with the cat piece.

Let me ask you this gene. Why are you looking?

Okay. So either you're gonna look at his, his bald head with his crazy eyes, or you're gonna look away from that. And one of the things that just pops right into your face is like, oh my God, this guy's either got a hard on, or he's like 12 inches flacid it's. And I, I, I would hope he's not walking around with the hard on all day long,

So

I think he's either had a pina implant

Uhhuh.

or he's packing a little something next, extra in there

So everybody who, when we said we were rapping this up, they quit totally missed out on the P

when nobody quits, nobody actually goes through trouble of getting a stop button. They wait for the podcast to actually end.

I don't know. I actually stopped stuff.

you stop yours before it stops itself? I don't believe you.

Absolutely like no agenda. I almost never listened to end into show mixes.

Okay. Well, you have a good reason for stopping that one. That's I'll give you that one. I kind of enjoy the mixes. So I do listen

very talented, especially certain ones like great agent Paul, who we're hoping to create a thing for us. You know, there's some good people there. But it is just

head up

Huh?

the other guy that just thought of still owns me a favor technic.

Who's

Is what's his face? The guy did, did the no agenda theme thing. God damn. What's his name?

And when I was missing Jodi Fisher's name, you helped me out about as much as I'm gonna help

eh, well you said some stupid words, like fish flower frog. Oh, oh, contact. I knew that's what it was. Yes. No, no, no. He's the guy that does the, a lot of the themes for Adam.

Pull your card,

he he's an actual yeah, yeah, yeah. There was, I remember, I, I hired him for a client that was a paid gig and he was like, oh, thanks dude. And it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, Hey, if you ever need a theme or something, let me know. I'm like, yeah, whatever.

Well, now we need one,

six years ago.

well, dude interest.

Yeah. Yeah. The other guy that I can try and hit up is at work once is mobi.

Hmm. I don't think he's gonna do the style of music that we're

well, but I mean maybe worth, worth a stretch.

good name

about, Hey, Moby, you ever thought about doing something people would listen to, and that is extra funny given his style of music,

yeah, it really is.

Yeah, cuz we need a theme for our podcast. Can't pay you, but we promise that we'll play it on every episode.

I, you know what I'm betting secret agent Paul comes in and knocks it out of the park for

That would be awesome.

because, you know, I mean, I will say this him and a couple others, I do listen to the industry makes us because they're talented.

oh, we got some great talent in no John, the social that's for sure. It's it's it generally people that you know, have a passion for the music and are doing it work for fun. I mean, for money.

Yeah. I will say that. I would love to hear Dame. Jennifer say something about loose and squirrel. That's all I'm gonna say.

Well, that should be easy enough. Just Stephen. Yeah. I, last time I saw her was at the Texas get together about what? Like

you're talking about when we met. Yeah,

No, not then. No, no, no. That was years ago. No, no, no. The last one here that yes, but the last time I saw her was like nine months ago is what I'm saying

oh, okay. Yeah.

named Jennifer. It was the, the thing down in. God, I can't remember the guy's names, but he he's the other duke that's like really close to here.

mm-hmm mm-hmm duke of the armory. Can't

No, not no, no, no. Not, not the army. No, that's not a duke that he's the Baron. No the God he is like in Lockhart or something, I can't remember the exact city, but he, he got up to duke real fast. So he was one of those people that just kinda it's good battled up within the matter of a few months and getting 10 grand in.

Yeah, I'm gonna hang around the Barna a little longer. Now, if I get there are a couple deals coming in that if I

Let me give you a piece of advice here for my benefit.

upping things. What's that?

Okay. If you commence some money and you decide to donate some money to no agenda.

Mm-hmm

Good, good goal. Fully support that don't do it in big increments. Do it in exactly $333 increments to make sure that each time you donate our show gets mentioned.

fair enough. Actually. Fair

Mm-hmm because there's no point in just doing one fell swoop, ands like, oh, here's a check for nine grand. Congratulations. I'ma do no. Fuck that shit, dude. Spread it out over time. This is my John C Doak school of business management moment.

Well, taking the advertising, you know, like, you