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>> Announcer: On the next episode of Sips, Suds and smokes. >> Julianna: Today we're drinking Christmas beers. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: The Christmas beers that we're going to be trying today are from Rogue Ales out in Portland, Oregon, Santa's Private Reserve Holiday Stout. Then from, uh, Left Hand in Longmont, Colorado, the
Nitro Candy Cane Imperial Milk Stout. Actually, been sort of interested, if morbidly so, to try from the Lost Abbey Brewing company in Vista, California, a Maritage ipa, uh, Spetzel Brewery in Shiner, Texas. The Shiner Holiday Cheer Dunkleweizen. Abita Brewing Company in Abita Springs, Louisiana, is their Christmas ale. And here in Nashville, from Fat Bottom Brewing, Fat Bottom Brewing, uh, Noel Spiced Christmas Ale. And if there's time, there might be a surprise beer or 10.
>> Announcer: We'll be right back after. Brought to you almost live from the dude in the basement studios. Why? Because that's where the good stuff is. It sips, suds and smokes with your smokin host, the good old boys. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Suds. >> Kendall: Suds. >> : Uh, suds. >> Announcer: Uh, it's time for more suds. >> Julianna: Uh, ho, ho, ho.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Don't call me that. >> Dave: She's just staring right at Kendall, Carl and Mike. >> : Is that a family greeting? >> Julianna: It's only the best family greeting. Isn't this the South? Welcome, everyone to another sud segment where when a fat guy with a beard wants you to sit on his lap, it could be Santa indicted. Or again, it could
be good old boy Dave. And no, that's not a candy or government cabinet member. Man, this was so gratuitous. >> : You looked, you just. You stepped right into the wind, you know? >> Julianna: Well, I am your host, good old gal Juliana. And joining me at the table today is good old boy Kendall. >> Kendall: It's the most wonderful time of the year. >> Julianna: Isn't it though? >> Kendall: Happy to be here. >> Julianna: What was that? Good old boy Carl. Hello.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: The weather outside is frightful. >> Julianna: Good old boy Mike. >> : Is that jolly or just not indicted yet. >> Julianna: And good old boy Dave. >> : You see, little fellow, every year I shine up my jingle bells for eight lucky reindeer. It's that guy. That's what I'm talking about. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Never listen to that quite way before.
>> Dave: Jingle bells are out of context. >> : That really is creepy. >> Julianna: Well, it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. Yes, every, uh, beer you drink and drink. That's right. It's that time, though, for those special end of the year one off batches. >> : That the breweries make for special people like Dave. Again, special or short bus beer. >> Julianna: Well, and it's these one off batches that happen after you run out of the pumpkin beer.
>> : Thank goodness. >> Julianna: There's that. Today we're drinking Christmas beers. Good boy. Carl, would you mind giving us today's lineup? >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yes, no problem. All right, uh, the Christmas beers that we're going to be trying today are from Rogue Ales out in Portland, Oregon, Santa's Private Reserve Holiday
Stout. Then from left, uh, Hand in Longmont, Colorado, the Nitro Candy Cane Imperial Milk Stout, which I've seen at all the grocery stores and have actually been sort of interested, if morbidly so, to try, uh, from the Lost Abbey Brewing Company in Vista, California, Maritage ipa Spetzel, uh, brewery in Shiner, Texas, the Shiner Holiday Cheer Dunkleweizen. Uh, Abita Brewing Company in Abita Springs, Louisiana, is
their Christmas ale. And here in Nashville, from Fat Bottom Brewing, uh, Noel Spiced Christmas Ale. And if there's time, there might be a surprise beer. Or 10, probably. >> Julianna: He knows us so well. All right, good old boy Mike, why don't you give us a suds ratings for today in your best Santa Claus? >> : Oh, yes. >> Dave: Ho, ho, ho. >> : We'll be discussing and rating these beers with these suds ratings. Plus our signature belching sound, boys and girls.
>> Dave: Sounds like Barney is a cartoon hero. >> : Those raiding now, look, it's a bass. It's like the bass, you know, uh, shows. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: You know, you've been tearing up Rolls Royces and embarrassing. >> : I know. Number one. That sucks. Give me anything but a lump of coal in my stocking. It's kind of like Walter Con Craig, you know, meet Santa.
What was the missing piece from the toy I just spent three hours trying to put together? >> Dave: Kind of read that correctly. >> Julianna: Kind of has number three. >> : Ah. Uh, what a relief. I did all the holiday shopping online this year, boys and girls. >> Dave: It is Cronkite number four. >> : A body should. Ho, ho, ho. Really not make that sound after three cups of eggnog. And number five. On, Dasher. >> Julianna: On. >> : Dancer.
>> Kendall: On. >> : I can't name all the. >> Dave: All the strippers. >> : Listen. Listen to that hang time. Give me a slice of fantastic fruitcake from 1984. Thank you. I'm here for the next 40 minutes, people. It's okay. Give it up. I know. Yes. >> Julianna: Okay. >> : Watch all those holiday classics. >> Dave: You know, if only the beers could be worthy of that performance. >> : I could have done it as like Eddie, you know, in Christmas
vacation. You know as well that that was the other choice. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: You serious, Clark? >> : Yes. >> Julianna: Okay, gnomes, let's get to it. First one that we are going to talk about is from Rogue, and it is their Santa's private Reserve Mocha Stout. This comes in at 6.7% ABV. Introducing Santa's Private Reserve 2024 with Portland Coffee Roasters. The festive brew captures the holiday spirit in every sip.
Perfect for Santa and anyone needing a holiday lift. >> Dave: Mike, we want to hear from you not only as a beer guy, but also as a coffee nerd. Like, what you're. >> : Well, yeah, the first thing that strikes me is, um, you know, coffee adjuncts with, uh, without balance. This is it, you know, in a nutshell. This was neither a good coffee nor a good beer before either one started and combined in the cup are just not working well together.
>> Dave: You think this is that coffee? That's from the cat poop. >> : No, it is not. It is meerkat. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: There's no way the elephant poop. You know, a lot of times with beers, uh, with coffee in them, I start getting green bell pepper. >> Kendall: Yep.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And why is that? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, but I don't really get a lot of pepper on this. >> : Really? Call me people. >> Kendall: No, I don't get that in this. In fact, I actually like this beer. I do, too, disagree with Mike. I think it's. I think it's got a lot of flavor up front, and then it fades, and you think it's going to be this heavy, just lingering aftertaste,
and it's not. It just disappears. It's like you maybe drink it, you know? >> : Yeah, I, um, like it. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I do, too. Yeah. I mean, I think this is. It finishes nice and dry, which I like. I didn't expect it to. I expected there to be a, like, lactose slap at the finish. >> : That's. >> Julianna: No, there's not. >> : I'll give it that. >> Dave: I like it. It's more coffee than it is stout to me.
>> : Very true. But it's not in check. It's just, you know, it just tastes like two watery messes that are just fighting out, you know, on my palate, that are just. Neither one of them are winning at the end of the day. Yeah. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Could you go back into your Santa voice? It was nicer. >> : This beer suc. Boys and girls. You should not bake this again. So, yeah, so, yeah, I just, um.
>> Julianna: I guess I'm an outlier because I'm digging it. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: No, I like it, too, man. >> Kendall: Mike's the outlet. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I think he is. >> Kendall: I am, but I don't know. Dave hasn't spoken up yet. >> Dave: No, I mean, like I said, I like it. I just. >> : You wouldn't have a second glass of it.
>> Dave: I just. It's I get the coffee. I'm just wondering where the stout is. >> : Yeah, it's like two things that are apart from each other. There's the stout over here. There's the coffee over here. And none shall cross except they're in this glass together and they just don't belong together.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Can we say for a, for a Christmas style beer that these are really not designed to be drank in more than one person to be consumed. Right? >> : Absolutely. Carl. I would not consume this beer.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Well, I just like, I think a lot of these, uh, I know I'm aging myself a little bit, but like this is the kind of thing that would show up in a 750 milliliter bottle at a Christmas party. >> : And I would go, where's the Irish whiskey? >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I mean wouldn't you say that anytime? Yeah,
I'm thinking that. Right. But it's. I think with these, this actually would. >> Julianna: Be nice with the lovely little touch of red breast. But anyways, I think it's very rare. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: That breweries make holiday uh, or Christmas beers that are like designed to stand the test of time. You know, it's just like, you know. >> : Man, we've had some really good ones. The Noel, uh,
beer from uh. Oh, what's the name of that? >> Julianna: Um, Belgian. >> : Yes, the Belgian. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Oh my gosh. >> : Delirium is everything is off the hook. >> Julianna: But that's it. Uh, that's kind of an exception to the rule though. But I, I think for what this is, this is nice. I do.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I feel confident that we're going to find something that we all like less than this. >> : I'm gonna, I'm gonna vote with my fingers and move on for sure. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. >> Dave: And yeah, I'll go there. >> Julianna: Yeah. We're gonna go four. Mike, you're up. >> Kendall: Coded. Yeah. >> : I didn't like it.
>> Dave: So stop going rogue. >> Julianna: Whatever. Hole. >> : Santa wants another beer. >> Kendall: I actually got a second pour of it. I really like it. >> Dave: Huh. >> Julianna: Uh, cool. Cool. And you know, online they're I guess rogue will like has like a 24 pound and it's all sold out. Isn't that cool? >> Dave: 24. >> Kendall: It's only 6.7% too, so. Which is nice. It's not just. >> Julianna: It's just enough high gravity beer.
>> Kendall: It's just enough. >> : It's enough to leave the party and move on. >> Julianna: No, I. >> : Exactly. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It's so grumpy. >> Dave: I think Carl predicted did Carl's predictions about to come true. >> : I'm not the pissed off elf in.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: The line, so I should also say I'm again dating myself years ago when I was in college, we used to have marching band rehearsal on Tuesday nights. And it was. Tuesday night was under the lights. And so we'd march. I'm in Ithaca, New York, so it would get real cold. >> Julianna: Yeah. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And, uh, so one. I was drum
major. And so one year they made. >> Julianna: Did you have a special dance, too, in the video? >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I mean, of course you do. Okay. I'm too old and fat to do it now, but so we. Somebody, uh, brought me a cup of hot chocolate, and what it was was boiled peppermint schnapps with a hot chocolate packet in it. >> : Yep. That's describing this next beer for sure.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And so I really don't like mint in beer at all. Or really, I hardly drink mint at all ever since then. So, uh, ptsd. When I saw this can on the shelf in the grocery store, I thought, I wonder if that's going to taste like. >> : No. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Peppermint schnapps with hot, uh, chocolate mix.
>> Julianna: So what we're talking about, folks, is the Candy Cane Nitro from Left Hand brewing. This is 9 1/2% ABV. Take a walk down Candy Cane Lane and experience the aromas of rich chocolate, fresh peppermint, and a hint of coffee. Interesting. Um, it's an Imperial Milk Stout with peppermint added. And we all know Left Hands Milk Stout, plus or minus on that. >> Dave: Do we? >> Julianna: Yes, we do, because it's been around forever.
>> Dave: This tastes like it's been around forever. >> Julianna: Ah, really? >> Dave: I don't know. Yeah, it's just kind of like. It's just kind of washed out, you know? >> Julianna: The aroma on here is not offensive. >> Kendall: You're right. >> Julianna: Back in just a minute. >> Dave: Say that about me. >> Kendall: No, you can't. >> Julianna: Welcome back, everyone. Today we have got our lights
on. Trees out, the aroma of, uh, pine needles. >> : Rescue aisle five. >> Dave: Uh, while we're talking about this beer, I want you guys to be thinking. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: About, like, the dog yakin on a bone. >> Dave: Well, sure, for sure. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: But also, Kendall's yakking on a bone. He got it up.
>> Dave: Thank you, Left Hand. You just killed Kendall. >> : So I'm not gonna say who said this at. Before the break was this is just a really bad toothpaste that, you know, needs to be spit out. But that is totally probably the best description, you know, of this. >> Julianna: Before the break, we started talking about the Candy Cane Nitro Imperial Peppermint Milk Stout from Left Hand. >> Dave: None of those words should go together well.
>> : So, you know, when we start talking about Mint M beers, I will tell you the first beer that comes to my mind. Is the Girl Scout mint chocolate chip cookie from Perennial. >> Julianna: Yes. >> : You know, that was a really good. That actually was a really good mint chocolate beer. I loved what Phil did with that. I thought it was a, uh, you know, a really great, you know, rendition. It did. >> Dave: It did justice to the greatest Girl Scout cookies.
>> : It did, you know, it was justice to a great beer. >> Kendall: Tagalong beer. >> : They, you know, no, you know, what you get out. It was. It was really good. So. And I think every mint beer that I've ever had after that has just tasted like crap, including this one. It's just. It is a muddled mess. >> Dave: It's very counterintuitive to say the words mint and beer together anyway.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It's exceptionally difficult to deal with. >> : I would say that, you know, whoever was standing there with the mint syrup just should have stopped at, oh, man. >> Dave: We should make a Spearmint Saison. >> : That would be the greatest ever. No, no, no, no, no. I almost heard Caperton's head explode in the middle of that discussion. >> Dave: He would have just gone, he will strike.
>> : I'm gonna stab somebody if, uh, somebody makes a mint saison. I. Absolutely. >> Dave: Yeah, but okay, but so I have to say this about left hand. Okay. Because I feel like on this show we only ever pick up left hand beers when we're doing some weird theme, like it's a pumpkin thing or Christmas thing or something. So at some point we should probably do a left hand show of some of their normal
beers. But every time we do one of these, it's like, it's one of the worst beers in the flight. And this one is like gum. >> Kendall: Not great. I really think the nitro hurts this. I really think, like, maybe the beer in theory could be good. Like a. It needs a pop. And you're going to get that from the carbonation. The nitro just kind of washes out the flavors.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And I've had plenty of beers with mint in them that have been over the top. Mint in this. I will say they do seem to have dealt with the mint gently, but because there's. Because it's nitro and there's no sparkle. Like, there's no, like CO2 zip on the back end. It. >> Julianna: It lingers. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah.
>> Dave: Well, I don't even think this would be good on tap, like, if he's just not good. >> Julianna: No. >> Kendall: Yeah, it just doesn't work. >> : Fast forward me to Gingerbread Village. >> Dave: Okay. Yeah. >> : What? >> Dave: Yeah, we're gonna. >> Julianna: Oh, yeah, we're. We're lucky number one on one finger salute. >> Dave: Yeah, sorry. Do better. >> Julianna: Wow. Okay. >> Dave: Okay. Wait, before.
>> : Export that to Idaho. >> Dave: Okay, so while you're thinking about this beer, I want everybody to think about what is your favorite Christmas movie? Because I know what mine is. >> Julianna: Well, let's spotlight Kendall for a moment. >> Dave: Well, we should always spotlight Kendall. >> Julianna: What is your favorite Christmas movie? What puts you in the mood? What makes you. >> Dave: The Christmas mood.
>> Julianna: Okay, sorry. The Christmas mood. >> Kendall: Yeah, I gotta go with the classic. It's, uh. It's Christmas vacation. >> : Oh, all the. All the way. >> Kendall: All the way. I'm telling you, I have a strong second, but, uh, I pledge allegiance to. >> : The Republic of the United States. >> Kendall: I mean, so many quotable lines. >> Dave: Yeah.
>> Kendall: I mean, every. Every time when the family sits down to grace at a holiday meal, I go pledge allegiance to the flag. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I mean, Chevy Chase's tirade is honestly. >> Dave: When he gets his gift card instead of a bonus. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yes. That tirade is genuinely one of the greatest moments in film. >> Dave: Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Period. Hot take. Greatest moment in film. >> Kendall: The whole movie. >> Dave: Everybody should have a cousin, Eddie. >> Kendall: Yes. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Oh, everybody doesn't have a cousin. >> Dave: Away. >> : We've all had that neighbor, too, I think. Todd, if you don't go over there and take care of it right now.
>> Kendall: No, I love that movie. It just. It's. It's Christmas Tree. I. There's a few others that I really like, but. Yeah, that's my favorite. >> Dave: What about you, Carl? What's your, uh. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It's a Wonderful Life. >> Dave: Yeah. Old school. Wow. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, I just. Yeah. I cry every time. It's
embarrassing. The kids are like, dad, seriously, like, just even in the very beginning, like when the. When the little blinky lights are talking to each other. >> Dave: I do the same thing with the first Deadpool movie. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Um, Are you. >> Kendall: Are you. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: That's my bad here, Mr. Coward. Oh, my gosh.
>> Dave: So what about you, Mike? What's yours? >> : Um, I really love Christmas vacation. I would say right behind that is a Christmas story, you know? >> Dave: Yeah. >> : You know, just. It's. The Red Rider BB gun story is absolutely just priceless. And, you know, we used it in a clip for an award. Uh, is. You know, it's a really big award. You know, so it's just when they're putting up the lamp in the window. I mean, I'm sorry, but I, uh, just. >> Dave: That is.
>> : That is way too funny for me. I just. I really. I die laughing every time, you know, he's standing out there at the street with neighbor going a little bit to the left, a little bit to the left. You know, it's like, you know, I'm being serious. That is Just really hilarious. >> Dave: My. So I have a sort of a tie. I'm going to be the Juliana on this one. I have. So Die Hard, to me, there you go. Is the best Christmas movie. >> Kendall: I can go along with that.
>> Dave: Uh, but then also Home Alone, I think I m. Think those two are two of the best Christmas movies. >> Kendall: Yeah, I forgot about that. I had not watched Home alone in probably 10, 15 years. And me and June watched it last year. John Candy, such a great movie. >> Dave: Dude is like, his. His part in it. I think they had him for a day to shoot. And like, John Candy, to me, is like one of the greatest actors of his, comedic actors of his. >> Kendall: Oh, yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: That whole thing was improvised. >> Dave: Yeah. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Like, there was no script for that. They were just like, john, do your thing. >> Dave: Yeah. >> Julianna: And he did it so well. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It was incredible.
>> Dave: Yeah. The polka king of, uh. I can't even remember, but it was just. >> Julianna: I know. Ypsilanti or something that just spoke to all the answers. >> Dave: Polka, polka, Polka. The polka twist. >> Julianna: Yeah. >> Dave: It was killer. How about you? >> Julianna: Um, well, I mean, I have to say, to a degree, Die Hard, because I wouldn't be my husband's wife if I wasn't, which is. I mean, it is like, we watch it every year.
>> Dave: Yippee ki yay. >> Julianna: But I also like those, like, dorky little animated, you know, like Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer. >> : You like the ranking Bass. >> Julianna: They're just like. Because there's something creepy but yet cool. >> : I sent a voice so. >> Julianna: Exactly. >> Kendall: The one that didn't come up, that I'm surprised nobody said is my second favorite, which is Elf. >> : Yeah, Elf is a real. I really can't say.
>> Dave: Yeah. >> Julianna: Yeah. >> Dave: Third favorite would be Bad Santa, but that's a different show. >> Julianna: Well, that's. Yeah, that's another time. Yes. Okay. >> : Uh, back to bad beer. >> Julianna: Let's get to another beer. So this one is from the lost abbey Mary Todd in Vista, uh, California. And this is Mary Taj. The name Mary Tage IPA pays homage to the holiday celebration going on from C2C, encapsulating the hope of a new year.
It's also a play on a term from the wine world. Meritage. >> Dave: Mike. Mike. >> Julianna: Meritage. >> : Yeah. So meritage is a bad idea in wines, but. >> Julianna: Okay. >> Dave: Okay. Maybe it's a good idea for. >> Julianna: Although they say it's a damn fine blend of, uh, pops in this. >> : Let's just do it. It's. It's usually a blend from hell that, you know, of all the winemakers, un. Un. Unintended. >> Dave: All the stuff that you can get.
>> : Rid of pretty much, yeah. That's what I. This is a great, a really well crafted beer. You know that, that's the thing that strikes me right off the bat is that this was just something that was really good
to start with and they actually made it better. I don't know what they did, you know, beyond what they started with, but this seems like it just, it started off as a simple IPA that kind of moved along, moved along into the point that I would actually declare probably, uh, you know, a double. I mean, it's. It's a big beer. >> Julianna: It's eight and a half percent abv. >> : Yeah. >> Julianna: Mhm.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: You know, this beer makes me think about Kendall and I's favorite beer of this time of the year. >> Kendall: Yeah. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Sierra Nevada Celebration. >> Kendall: It's not on this list, but it's similar. >> : Bingo. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah.
>> : This has all that west coast piney. >> Kendall: You know, bitter caramel. >> : Absolutely. >> Julianna: Like you're outside Cascade hops all day long. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, yeah. >> Julianna: This also reminds me of something that, um. Oh, what is that? Anchor would do to steam the other Christmas? >> : Yeah, yeah.
>> Julianna: You know what I mean? And it just like, it hearkens me to a vintage time when, like, beer was kind of in your face, like, you know, kind of hopwise and wasn't full of all the spices and things like that. >> Kendall: Yeah, I'm loving it. It is a classic west coast double ipa back in the days when there was caramel malt in them and some aggressive bitterness and it, it's really, well bal.
>> Dave: So what they said about this was that, like, you know, the Lost Abbey, they're known for like, sours and like, all these different things, but at the end of the day, they're all still hop heads too. >> Kendall: Yeah. >> Dave: And I think they did a great. >> Kendall: Job with this great beer. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, terrific.
>> : I would have felt like this had been something actually produced more by Sierra Nevada, you know, or Lagunitas. It just has, you know, all of those big booming, you know, um, West Coast IPA hops to them. And yet I really find that this is incredibly well executed. Very, you know, it, uh, has a great finish, it has a great start. I just, I love this beer. This is, this is very well made.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yep. That's an excellent beer. >> Julianna: Yeah. And for people that don't like, you know, dark stouts, this is really for you. Like, this is. >> Dave: You could take this to a holiday party. >> : If there's anything to flush out all of the candy cake men out of my mouth, it would mean this. And it worked. >> Dave: Really.
>> Kendall: This is gonna be a good beer with a lot of big holiday foods, especially rich, fatty foods. >> : Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All day long with cranberry. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: You know what, Mike? Why don't we mix a little bit of this with a little bit of that candy cane stuff and see what you think. >> : Negative. It's already happened on my palate. >> Dave: That'll, uh, be our Christmas present.
>> : This just completely scraped everything away, and I love it. So, yeah. Really, really great beer. All. All day long. >> Julianna: Yay to Lost Abby. This one, the Mary Taj, we're going to rate a 5. >> : I. >> Dave: When I was picking all these out, I was like, this is going to be an outlier one way or the other. >> Julianna: That's either going to be awesome.
>> : I think the only thing I'm disappointed about with that beer is it's gone, and I need more, so there's another can. >> Dave: So there we go. >> Kendall: Good. >> : Great beer. >> Julianna: Yeah, that is pretty tasty. Um, okay, Kendall, you're. >> : Sorry. Is that your mating call? >> Julianna: Maybe that's my love language. Give us. When you think of the holidays, what's the first thing that pops into your head? Like, Christmas holidays.
>> : Wow. >> Julianna: I mean, whether it's like, family, friends, tradition that you and your wife do. >> Kendall: Or what, it's just that the time slows down and you get to spend a few days with family that you don't normally don't get. And that's kind of what I like about it. >> Julianna: Cool. Cool. >> Dave: Yeah. >> Julianna: Okay.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. We call it the land where time forgot. You know, where it's just people kind of wander in and out of your world, and you're. I mean, whenever I work in a bar. Right. So just people wander in. They don't know where they are, what day it is. Um, I just. >> : Yeah, Carl, he gives me free drinks. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I'm not sure we've met.
>> Dave: You may be thinking of another Carl. >> Julianna: Yeah. >> : Probably different parts of it. >> Dave: Mike. Like, you know, now you're like grandpa times two. Like, what is. What are the holidays for you? >> : Oh, you know, it's very easy for me to say. Right. You know, it's. It's a. It's Trisha from my mom's family, uh, that goes back a very long time. I mean, probably over 150 years. We make, uh, a recipe that spans, uh, time and space.
They're aniseed cookies, and, uh, we make them. And, uh, I am the grandchild that, you know, kept that tradition going. And I'm in the process of ushering this on to my own kids. And actually, I was working on making the cookie dough right before production. Uh, day. Uh, Today. So my wife does not like aniseed. Uh, but she still loves the tradition and it gives us, you know, a great time together, you know, around a table just to sit and decorate
and have fun. And I'm looking forward to doing that, you know, with my grandchildren as well. So. That's awesome. Yeah, it is. It's a very good time. We used to make a whole lot of these. We used to make, uh, probably upwards of, you know, six or seven dozen, give them away as gifts. But we would decorate for almost like two, three solid days. And that turned off the fun factor out of this. >> Dave: Started becoming a job.
>> : Yeah, started becoming a job. And I decided to get back to, you know, a little closer of just sticking with tradition and, you know, for us to enjoy really making the cookies as much as we love to give them away. My twist on this very long tradition is that we used to wind up
with a lot of cookies that didn't quite make it. You know, we'd have a gingerbread man that was missing a foot or an army, or we would wind up with, you know, a five pointed star that wound up being a four pointed star. And so we added to the tradition of making misfit cookies. And so we actually have a whole batch of cookies that just basically don't make the cut. >> Dave: The island of Misfit Cookies. >> : Uh, so we actually have a whole thing that's aligned with
the island of Misfit Cookies. And I give away the, there's a word, uh, puzzle and all of the stuff from the island of Misfit Cookies. And we actually have, you know, a bunch of the ornaments, you know, that are aligned towards those characters. And, um, so we actually choose a special family. Usually it's someone that has small kids. We actually show up on their front door and sing a couple of carols and give them misfit cookies. So it's a really cool tradition. I've
really enjoyed it. Um, and, um, here's some bad singing and some bad singing. Bad singing and broken cookies, you know, Christmas suckers. So, um, but. And it means a little bit more this year with my mom passing, uh, away since the last time we did this. And so, um, it's really great that, you know, we get to carry on a tradition from her family. And I really love that. >> Dave: That's awesome. >> Julianna: That's cool.
>> Dave: Yeah. >> Julianna: Dave, what do you think about, um. >> Dave: So. So my only personal Christmas tradition is you were talking about, you like those, you know, old school animated Christmas movies. There's a MAD TV sketch from back in the 90s called Raging Rudolph. Um, there's, like, a take on the Godfather meets Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer that I watch. I watch it every year, uh, without fails. >> : Rudolph, we're going to the mattresses this year.
>> Dave: That's exactly it. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. >> Dave: Talking. >> : No crap. No, no. Like, red thing in the sky. We're going to the mattresses. >> Dave: Am I a clown? Do I make you laugh? Yeah, exactly. It's the Godfather. >> : Good. Look that up. Ah. >> Dave: Every mob movie meets Rudolph the River. >> : Is that available on dvd? >> Dave: Yeah. They're
all sticky, though. Mike. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Oh, my God. >> Julianna: That's cool. >> Dave: Yeah. What about you? >> Julianna: Um, for me, so growing up, my Christmas was different than tradition, than. >> : Oh, that's right, Joe. >> Dave: Is Wait a week. Yeah. >> Julianna: 13 days. Yes. So. >> : So you got everything half price.
>> Julianna: Yes. Um, so Russian Christmas, or as I called it, Russian Christmas because I'm Russian Orthodox, was on January 7th. Traditionally, it's weird that it's called Russian. >> Dave: But it's always late. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I like that. Yeah, that's a good one. >> Dave: Hey, Carl liked it. >> Julianna: So for Christmas, I'm just here for the pun. It's a big candlelight dinner. We have 12 foods.
For the 12 wise men, we have hay under the table. >> : There were 12 wise men? Well, I thought there were three. >> Dave: There's 12 days of Christmas. Okay. >> Julianna: No, but there were 12 things. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Donkeys, gold, frankincense, and myrrh. >> : Where are the other 12? >> Dave: There's Lord's Leap. I know that. And there's some maids.
>> : I think there's some people that had that rogue beer, you know, so there. >> Julianna: Was a lot of fish. There was, um, this thing called kalitsa, which tasted, um, like wallpaper paste, but my mom absolutely loved it. It's like this soup. >> : How do you know wallpaper paste tasted like. That's what I want to know. Was there a mint overtone to it? >> Dave: Was it the nitro that made it taste like that? >> Julianna: It needed to have the nitro actually on it.
But it was just this, like, candlelight dinner that was very holy, very traditional. And we always saved a spare seat for our ancestors to come and join us at the table. Um, and it was just a very traditional thing. So that was just. Yeah, that was, like the. To me, the coolest part about Christmas. >> : Yeah. Pass me the mint jello and the wallpaper. >> Julianna: No, mint ch. Uh, no. But my grandma.
>> Dave: Hey, talk about stick to your, you know, stick to your ribs kind of food. >> Julianna: Anyways, to be continued. When? In just a minute. Welcome back, everyone. Today is a day about celebrating the holidays, even though you're torturing us season. You're welcome. Look, isn't that what most family does at some point? >> : I can think of which cousin I'd serve this next beer.
>> Julianna: Okay, so what we're going to talk about is the, uh, special brewery in Shiner, Texas. >> : Oh, my gosh. >> Julianna: The Shiner holiday cheer Dunkel Wisen. So this special beer cleanup, aisle six. Okay. It was first brewed in 2010, and they. >> : And they decided to keep doing it. Oh, my gosh. >> Julianna: Okay. And in 2013, it took the Australia. It took bronze in the Australian International Beer Awards.
>> : Were they tasting it right to left instead of right? >> Dave: I'm telling you, they were the only entry. And they're like, look, we give them gold, we can't give them silver. So we're gonna give it something. >> Julianna: Okay. >> : To go out of the country to meddle with this beer. >> Julianna: So this is 5.4% ABA. >> : Welcome to the Canadian IPA Invitational. >> Dave: Oh, welcome to Down Under. It tastes like.
>> Julianna: Okay. This is a old world Dunkleweizen brew with Texas peaches and roasted pecans. >> : On a scale of five, this is like a negative three. >> Julianna: Well, they say it goes well with fruitcake. >> : It goes well with a green apple Jolly Rancher. >> Dave: That is. >> : That is the. That is the cornerstone, uh, taste profile, this beer. >> Kendall: Yep. Green Apple.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Not for me. >> Kendall: It's. I don't remember it being tasting like this. >> : I mean, this is so bad. >> Dave: I don't remember. >> Kendall: Ten years ago, I was working in a. In a beer shop, and I remember at Christmas time, this was a popular draft beer, but I don't remember it tasting like this. >> Dave: This is. So maybe the peaches went.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I would just like to say that I really like Shiner Bachelor. >> Dave: I love Shiner Bach. >> : Yeah. >> Dave: Great beer. >> Kendall: Some of the one off shiners are good. I just had a dry hot pilsner from Shiner called, like, Cosmo Special. It was fantastic. Strikes me and do it. They can make great beers, but dial an adjunct.
>> : You know, I think somebody stepped up to her dart board and threw at it and went, uh, the flavor profile is green apple. >> Dave: You know, we had that shiner pack, Mike, uh, you know, a few months ago that there were some, you know, like, Shiner Light and a couple things that were really good. But, um, yeah, this is not so much. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I really feel like with holiday beers, some
people or some. Some breweries approach a holiday beer like, hey, now's the time where we can really capture a share of the market of people who want to buy something that doesn't taste like beer. And so they're going to try to make it taste. >> : Oh, I think this is a, uh, marketing limiting, uh, decision is what this would be. >> Dave: So. >> : Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Um, but from a sales perspective, like somebody might buy that because they'll say, oh, well, pecans and peaches and I like all those things. >> : Yeah. People in South Dakota, they don't know what good beer is. >> Dave: So actually Mike, we had some beers from South Dakota that were really good. So they know, uh, so they, maybe. >> : They should, they, they promote this into North Dakota.
>> Julianna: It's just that it's like a bad peach. It's like, it's just a really bad beer. >> Dave: So for my Christmas present, let's stop talking about this beer. >> Julianna: Okay. Um, we are going to God bless Rate the shiner holiday cheer dunkle wisen 81. >> : That is kind. >> Julianna: Oh God. Okay. Okay. On, uh, maybe hopefully on to better things. So the next one is from Abita. So now we're going to
¶ Noel Spiced Christmas Ale
Louisiana. >> Dave: It's better than the last one. One. >> Julianna: And, um, this is the seasonal Christmas Ale. 5.8%. It's classified as a dark ale. It's a brown ale that is brewed with six types of malted barley and fermented with American ale yeast. And then it is hopped and dry hopped with Columbus, Cascade, Centennial and Amarillo. >> : Yeah, it's the invasion of the gingerbread men.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: That's what it is. You know, it tastes like an American brown ale. >> Kendall: Yep, yep. Brown ale. >> : Yeah, it's not bad, Lace, with all those baking spices that you just really love to. >> Dave: Hey. >> : Combined with a brown ale that's, you know, clove and cinnamon and all spice and all that crap. It's just. Yeah, I don't get that on crack or something.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, I don't get any of that on this. >> Dave: Uh, like I just taste a hoppy brown Al. >> Kendall: Yeah. I feel I get the hops. I don't get any real spice. >> Dave: I think Mike's having an allergic reaction to the shiner maybe. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Do you remember, uh, when Dogfish Head did their India brown ale?
>> Julianna: Mhm. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Like, man, that beer was so great. >> Kendall: That was good. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And like, I don't think this is as good as that was. Or at least as good as my memory of that was. But that's what this is trying to do, right? Like it's just a hoppy brown ale. And I like the idea that you can make a holiday beer that isn't a slave
to style. Cinnamon. >> Julianna: Because what you're about cinnamon or peppermint next cup, right? No. And honestly, for New Orleans being, well, Louisiana in general, Being like this assault of like, you know, almost like cajuny kind of flavors. I'm surprised and happily surprised that they've sort of dialed down what their version of a Christmas beer. >> Dave: As long as it doesn't taste like Old Bay, I think we're okay. >> : I will say that I would drink.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: An Old Bay beer. I'm just gonna lie. >> : I've yet to run into an abida beer that I really like. Wow. This is maybe the pecan. I want to say there's a pecan beer, you know, in their lineup, but. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I really like Turbo Dog. >> : Yeah. >> Kendall: Oh, yeah, Turbo Dog. Man, I haven't had one of those in 20 years.
>> : Yeah. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Um, we should go get one today. >> Kendall: I know. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I don't know. >> Julianna: Like back in the day when you didn't have a lot of options. That was really good. >> : I think they're a lot better. It was always on brown nails all day long. I. I'm not a fan of this at all. There's
nothing that says this is festive a holiday. I like it too. Other than that branding about it. That's about it. >> Dave: Listen, grumpy old man. >> : Yeah, yeah. >> Dave: Because we talk about your grandpa stuff doesn't mean you have to be grandpa. >> Julianna: And like, what a great cute little Santa on there. You know, how this. >> Dave: How different can you be from everybody else at the table? >> : Gonna drop a lump of coal on all of
you. That's what I'm gonna do. >> Julianna: Oh my gosh. All right. We, us, us good humans are going to rate the Abita ah, Christmas Ale, otherwise known as our brown ale. A4. >> : Don't worry, Mike. >> Dave: You can fix it in post. I can fix it in post. I'm not even going to play the. >> : I like it thing. >> Dave: I'm not even going to do that to you.
>> Julianna: Okay. So very titillating. We're going to go to Fat Bottom in Nashville and we're gonna do the Noel Christmas or Spice Christmas Ale. >> Kendall: I'm not a fan of those holiday spices. This has holiday spices? >> : Oh, yes. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Is this the. With the exception of the peppermint beer, is this the first one that we've had that has had what I would consider traditional holiday spices in it?
>> : Yes. Mhm. This is a mistletoe bomb all day long. I didn't think I was gonna say those words, you know, after. >> Julianna: Okay. >> : You know, so. >> Julianna: Okay, so this is brewed with Tennessee honey, ginger, cinnamon and cloves. >> : Yeah, it's way too much cloves. >> Julianna: And they suggest you to serve it in a pint glass rimmed with honey and cinnamon too. >> : You son of a m. Yeah, welcome to the muddled.
>> Dave: You know, honey is not cheap, so why waste a bunch of honey and. >> : Screw up a great beer? Yeah. This just tastes like, you know, an adjunct recipe that just got away from them and is there's no cohesive plan. It was more of like, oh, wow, cool. That's sticking to the side of the wall of the fermenter. Let's just do that. You know, I. I just. I don't. If there was an intended destination with this, they missed it.
>> Julianna: You know what though? Maybe to the uneducated, this might be holiday ish. Okay. Because. No, I'm not trying to sound. I'm not trying to sound dumb here though, but. Okay. Think about our rooftop bars in Nashville for Christmas holidays and our bars in general. Christmas holiday cocktails. Not the good places, but the average places. >> Dave: They're all drinking peppermint schnapps.
>> Julianna: Well, so in the grand scheme of things, isn't this just a version of one of those cocktails? Do you know what I mean? >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I think if you. If you are somebody that really enjoys cinnamon nutmeg clothes, then you would like that. >> Julianna: Right? This is like. This is like the old school ham that your grandmother made. >> Kendall: Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Well, without the smoke. Right. Like if it was smoky. >> Dave: Yeah. If it had look. Some saltiness, maybe that would make this better. >> Kendall: Too much glove. >> : This has me running to the other side of the room to go. Do you have any eggnog? Any. Any eggnog? >> Dave: Maybe if you. >> : Any eggnog. Even if it's bad eggnog.
>> Dave: I will take this as a roush beer. Maybe that would. >> : No, this is not a good ra. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I wonder if you have a barrel age version of this that we could try. >> Dave: Uh, yeah, that would be crazy. Wouldn't that be weird? >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I think it'd be so weird if you just happen to have a barrel age version.
>> : Let's take a bad idea and let's drop it into a barrel. This is a really great idea, Carl. >> Dave: Barrel of what? >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: You know, I've done that. >> : Any. Anything to cover up the base taste profile of this, you know? Yes. >> Julianna: Well, gee, Carl, do we have extra cups here? Funny you should say that. Okay, so based on this one alone, the fat bottom Noel, I'm
just going to spice Christmas sale. Okay. Also, does this taste 7.7%? >> Dave: I can't even. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: No way. >> : Tastes. It tastes like an early exit. >> Dave: It tastes like about 5%. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Same. There's no way I would have said that was 7%. >> Julianna: No. >> Dave: So in that Respect.
>> Julianna: This is kind of shocking to me. >> Dave: So it's kind of like a Christmas root. Goofy in a way. >> Kendall: Yeah. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Oh, my God. It'll get you there. >> Julianna: Oh, my gosh, she's right. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: What are you doing later? >> : Yeah, that's the only way I could enjoy this would be, you know, comatose.
>> Dave: Gonna show you my candy cane. >> Julianna: Okay. But it does not. It does not taste 7.7. >> : Doesn't taste like anything but bad. >> Dave: Tastes like a bad decision. >> Julianna: Wow. Okay. >> Dave: Um, uh, that. That one. Are we gonna do this to it? >> : You know, uh, Carla from accounting. This is a wonderful story that I don't want to hear from this. >> Dave: We're gonna call this one a write off.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Uh. >> : Oh, there we go. Finally. >> Julianna: Oh, okay. Um, well, we are going to rate the fat bottom Noel spice Christmas Ale A1 now. You know, Carl just happened to think, hey, throw this in a barrel, and I'm, you know, sure it's going to be great. So we are now going to drink the barrel age. >> : Now it's. >> Dave: It smells better. >> Julianna: No limited release.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Listen, Carl was right for you. I think Carl was right. >> Julianna: It smells 9.7% ABV. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Damn. >> Dave: So wait, how did it go up that much? Did they leave? Half of the barrel of whiskey is. >> : I love the acceleration at the end into the bottom. So I will say this really improved dramatically.
>> Dave: It did. It does. 100%. >> : It has masked such a muddled mess and actually brought around, uh, was this Irish whiskey? Because it tastes like Irish whiskey. >> Dave: So you remember how on the Rogue when we were saying, like, the balance between an adjunct and a beer, and if the adjunct overtakes the beer too much, you know, it could be wrong. Somehow the adjunct in this one being the whiskey barrel has overtaken the beer. And I think they did it right.
>> : I think that, um, they actually improved. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: This dramatically a lot of times. At least. At Black Abbey, what we do is we rinse the barrels before we put beer in them because we want to get wood and vanilla and we don't want to get super boozy. Um, but sometimes it's really appropriate to mask. Right. >> Dave: And let's pour more whiskey into this thing.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Well, and honestly, I would guess that they made a separate batch of this beer and they made a little stronger because I think my. Our general rule of thumb is that you pick up about one point abv wise from a barrel. Uh, so they probably brewed it to about, you know, eight. Eight, two. >> Dave: Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And then barreled that. And, you know, I think it's absorbing. >> Dave: The spirit or because it's. >> : I would have a half a can of this. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, it, uh, for us,
it. What I think the way that we approach barreling beer is that we keep all our barrels temperature controlled because in the whiskey world you want the liquid to move in and out of the staves. >> Dave: Yeah. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Whereas in the beer world you really don't because you could pick up a lot of harsh tannic flavors that unless you're brewing a 12, 13, 14% beer, the beer can't, uh, it can't balance
it. Like it can't maintain the, uh, its flavor integrity. >> Dave: It's gonna get overtaken by those off flavors. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And so we rinse the spirit first and then we keep the barrels at cellar temp. So we usually keep them about 39, 40 degrees.
>> Dave: Oh, wow. Okay. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: So in and in this, like I'm not overwhelmed by booze, but I mean there sure is plenty of it. But it's not overwhelming in this. >> Dave: Uh, no, actually it kind of rounds it out. >> Julianna: Exactly. But honestly, like, I feel like it mellows the cinnamon and, and like the spiciness of it, um, and makes it a little bit more palatable.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It makes it a toddy. >> : This is a huge improvement. This is a beer surprisingly better. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, I really like. >> Dave: So this actually was a bonus beer. >> Julianna: So this is a good bonus beer. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: So I was right. Just like to point attention to myself.
>> Dave: Yes. >> Julianna: Carl M. Thank God we have good boy Carl with us today. >> Dave: Well, I like how she looked at Mike. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Give it a higher rating than you. >> Julianna: Wow. >> : Yeah. Welcome to beer rescue with Carl. >> Julianna: Okay, so this Black Friday barrel age Noel release according to the website. >> : Yeah.
>> Julianna: Uh, yeah. Is, um, we are going to rate this a, uh, four. >> Announcer: Wha. >> : So one, two this week I actually took a Belgian golden that I've had sitting, uh, on a whiskey barrel for three years. >> Dave: Why'd you leave it sitting on the barrel? >> : And it is really fall off. It's really fascinating. I. It's. >> Julianna: What kind of barrel is it? >> : Um, it is a. It's a bourbon barrel from. Um, I think. I think it's a national
barrel company. I think it's a. I think it's a MDP barrel. So I think it's a. >> Julianna: And a straight. No funkiness. >> : No, no. >> Dave: This was. >> : We are going to add some adjuncts on it. I just. It needs a little bit of sugar to it. And I was talking with you. >> Dave: Stick your finger in there. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah.
>> : The brewer that we're collaborating with and he and I both agreed just need a little bit of vanilla. Just, just a hint, you know, to uh, kind of Kick it up just a little bit, you know, from where it's at. But yeah, it's, um. Um, definitely barrel aging is not for the. For the me. Uh, by any Miami, uh, standard. Yeah. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It can very easily turn into garbage.
>> : Yeah, you really got to be flexible, you know, and, uh, and pay attention to what's going on for sure. So, I guess. >> Julianna: Well, what a wonderful episode today. Amazing holiday spirit. Yes. Okay, well, that's gonna do it for today. Good old boy Kendall. Thanks so much for being here. >> Kendall: It was a pleasure. Merry Christmas. >> Julianna: Merry Christmas. Please tell us about your blog.
>> Kendall: My beautiful wife and I blog about the good news of good beer@beermakes3.com. >> Julianna: Good old boy Carl, thanks so much for being here and helping us to have a nice, happy ending to this episode. >> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Peace, love, and humptiness forever. >> Julianna: Please tell us what you do in your day life.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Uh, I work for Nashville's Black Abbey Brewing Company. And you can find us@BlackAbbeyBrewing.com and on your Sidekick. And, uh, you can also look me up on Instagram @djdad's been drinking with no G. Yes. >> Julianna: Good old boy Mike. >> : Check out another great episode of Sip, Suds and Smokes. I'll ask you to keep on sipping. >> Julianna: Good old boy Dave.
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