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>> Announcer: On the next episode of sips, suds. >> Brent: And smokes, here are the wines we're going to be discussing today. So we have, from Gargiula vineyards, we have the 2022 Frankwood Chardonnay. We have the Gargiula Vineyards 2018 g major seven cabernet Sauvignon. The Gargiula Vineyards 2018 money Road Ranch Cabernet Sauvignon. From Beaulieu, we have the Beaulieu Vineyards 2020 Cabernet Sauvignon and the Beaulieu Vineyards 2019 Rutherford

Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon. And from Ehlers Estate, we have the Ehlers Estate portrait. The Ehlers Estate Jean Leduc, 2021. And the Ehlers Estate 1886 Cabernet Sauvignon 2021. This is what we do for you, our fans. Uh, we drink and we sacrifice. >> Announcer: So we'll be right back after this break. Brought to you almost live from the, uh, dude in the basement studios. Why? Cause that's where the good stuff is. It sits, suds and smokes with your smokin host, the good old boys.

And now it's sippin time. >> Brent: Hey. Yes, it's sippin time again. And welcome to this sips of, uh, episode where everything good in life is worth discussing. As always, we are the best thing on at 02:00 a.m. no argument. >> Maury: No. >> Denise: No argument. >> Bob: I think so. >> Brent: Yeah. >> Denise: Yeah. I think we definitely.

>> Brent: We've peaked. We. >> Bob: We have, like, you know, we're competing against the 2017 lacrosse finals, so I think we're going to waste them. >> Brent: Oh, yeah, we got that. >> Maury: Yeah. >> Brent: Americans don't get lacrosse. We're set. Awesome. We're finally number one made man. Bob. And joining me today are good old gal Denise. >> Denise: Good morning. I enjoy early morning drinking with you gentlemen.

>> Brent: She enjoys early morning m drinking and tequila sunrises on the beach. And sagittarius. And good old boy Maury. >> Maury: Good morning. Nice to be here. >> Brent: Good morning. >> Denise: Did we get you? >> Brent: He's worried. He's been hanging around, too. Stop hanging around, Justin. And good old boy Justin. >> Bob: Good morning. Uh, this is going to be a great day in the basement, because as long time fans may

know, this is the second show of the day. We're all feeling very, very good. >> Brent: Yeah, that's what makes this job great. Like, you all whine like, okay, no, we need to do two shows at a time. Number one, getting all you knuckleheads at the same table at the same time is like hurting cats on crack. And number two, the second show is always better. >> Maury: Yeah. >> Bob: So, yeah, buckle up. >> Denise: Good life. Quentin. Tarantino. Ah. Cats on crack.

>> Bob: Cats on crack. >> Denise: Yeah, he could pull that off. Kill bill. >> Brent: Move. Cats on crack. >> Denise: That's what I'm saying. Yeah. >> Brent: Yeah. >> Maury: Kill bill. >> Brent: Cats on crack. Number two. >> Denise: Uh oh. You're onto something, Bob. >> Brent: First time in my life for everything. Um, our sip segments are all about wine, distilled

spirits, tea and coffee, and everything else. Sip. And here are the wines we're going to be discussing today. So we have, from Garzula vineyards, we have the 2022 Frankwood Chardonnay. We have the Gargoua vineyards 2018 g major seven cabernet sauvignon. The Gargiula Vineyards 2018 money Road ranch Cabernet Sauvignon. From Beaulieu, we have the Beaulieu Vineyards 2020 Cabernet Sauvignon and the beautiful vineyards 2019 Rutherford

Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon. And from Ehlers Estate, we have the Ehlers estate portrait. The Ehlers Estate Jean Leduc, 2021. And the Ehlers estate 1886 Cabernet sauvignon 2021. So. >> Maury: Wow. >> Brent: So, against my better judgment, we're gonna have Justin tell us about sips. Ratings. >> Bob: One sip. Give me a glass of water to wash out my mouth, punk. >> Brent: He always goes back to the one that he's got. You know? That's his best one.

>> Bob: Two sips. Nice. But what else do you have? >> Denise: Well, isn't that, uh, nice? >> Brent: Now, remember, I said this is his best one. >> Bob: Doesn't mean it's good. >> Maury: That's right. Thank you. >> Bob: It's just the best one I have. >> Brent: Right. >> Bob: Three sips. >> Brent: Hmm. >> Bob: Interesting. What was this again? >> Denise: Interesting. That was good.

>> Brent: This is a. 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun I never met. >> Bob: Exactly. Four sips. Let's keep this secret to ourselves. Pour me another. >> Denise: That's classified. >> Bob: Five sips. Oh, my. I was unaware anything could be this good. >> Brent: Get off my lawn. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Yes, yes. >> Bob: Longtime, uh, California resident Clint Eastwood. >> Brent: Exactly.

All right, well, in reward to him for his fine quality imitation, we're going to let Justin tell us about. A little bit about Garzula vineyards. So since he's been there, he probably knows a few things. So tell us about it. >> Bob: The genesis of Garrigulo vineyards can be traced back to the 1980s, when Jeff Garrigiulo, a lifetime farmer, and his wife, Valerie, and their young family traveled to Napa Valley to visit Valerie's cousins, Barney

and Bell Rhodes. Napa Valley icons Barney and Bell Rhodes had been in the Napa Valley since the late 1960s, growing grapes in Rutherford at, uh, Bella Oaks Vineyard, falling in love with the area. They were confident that with Barney and Bell's help, Jeff's agricultural knowledge, they would make some of the finest wines in the world. So in 1992, they purchased their first vineyard, money Road ranch in Oakville, Napa Valley. Seven years later, they purchased their second Oakville property, 575

Ovx. They released their first vintage of Garrigueulo vineyards cabernet Sauvignon in 2000. So I've been there a couple of times, and one of the really interesting things about the property, other than its great beauty and beautiful, uh, sunrises and sunsets, is that it is directly next door to this winery called screaming eagle, which is one of the big cult wines and is just literally on the other side of the fence. Um, and a little more reasonably priced. >> Brent: So little.

>> Bob: Yeah, like 90% less. >> Brent: Vastly more reasonably priced. >> Bob: Yeah. And, uh, these californian wines. >> Maury: Uh oh, so good. >> Brent: I miss Snape. >> Bob: Was he the guy that just passed away? >> Brent: Mm hmm. >> Bob: Yeah. God rest your soul, sir. >> Brent: Bottle shock, one of my favorite movies.

>> Bob: So the first wine we're gonna talk about is Garajulo Vineyards, 2022 Frank Wood Chardonnay, 13.1% alcohol by volume. It's named after Garagiulo's legendary first vineyard manager, Frank Laurie Wood. This wine is made with 100% handpicked chardonnay, which is whole cluster pressed and fermented in mostly neutral barrels and stainless steel drums. So this vintage, I got the strong butter on the nose, fresh, um, baked bread. That's kind, ah, of a classic flavor profile

of chardonnay. Um, it really varies from year to year. The 2020 and the 2021 were less buttery, but this one is classic buttery on the palette. I got lemon, uh, almond concentrate, pears, and the finish was clean and crisp. Maury, what did you think? >> Maury: I thought this was a delightful wine. The color is super pale, but the nose is bright. And I agree with you. The palette is viscous, mouth coating, a lot of brioche, a lot of butter, a lot of really voluptuous

flavors. And then the finish just seems to go on and on and on. Um, I know they're primarily known for their reds, but I thought this was a delicious chardonnay. This was a style that I really like and appreciate. And, uh, I thought it was delicious. I really, really. I have not had this before. Um, but I really appreciated the fine, uh, the finesse, the style, and, uh, the structure. I think this is a beautifully made wine. Denise, what do you think?

>> Denise: Well, again, you described it as creamy. The mouth feel was creamy. And again, I found it to be a little more crisp and clean, um, on this particular wine or chardonnay. And when Justin was describing it, and that it's fermented in mostly neutral barrels and stainless steel drums, um, I think that that creates a really nice balance for this wine. Not too much stainless steel, which I don't love, and not overly oaked, which I don't love. So

it created a lovely balance. But for me, it was a little more crisp and clean on the nose, uh, more citrus, lemon, even more like a lemon meringue pie. And, um, interestingly enough, on the palate for me, I still got the lemon, but a little bit sweeter, like a lemon curd. Um, so I really enjoyed this chardonnay. I think it's, um, a, uh, wine that can be paired with many different foods, um, or as a standalone and just enjoying company, and some charcuterie. But I think it's a lovely chardonnay.

>> Brent: That's why I love having niece here, because her palate always lines up with mine. >> Denise: Yeah, uh, yeah, we do, don't we? >> Brent: I got the same thing that the lemon curd on the palate, it's just, it's that sweet, very fresh, very bright. >> Denise: Lemon, but with a little sugar to it, almost. It sweetens. >> Brent: It just sweetened up and creamy and just viscous. There's some fresh oak on this. The acidity on this is so

bright. And like Morrie said, garzi. When I think gargoula, I'm thinking red. >> Denise: Mhm. >> Brent: This is a fantastic Chardonnay, I think of as a red house. So it just shows that they really know what they're doing. I mean, this is, this is a beautiful chardonnay. Citrus, lemon, fresh oak, great acidity, a little bit of marzipan. Nice mouthfeel to it. So we're going to be rating the Garzula vineyards 20, uh, 22 Frank Wood Chardonnay. A well deserved four sips.

>> Denise: Perfect. That's classified. >> Brent: So that takes us to our next one from Garzula, which is the Garzula Vineyards 2018 g major seven cabernet sauvignon. So it's 14.6% abv, 22 months in medium toast french bariques, 90% new g major seven cabernet sauvignon is blended from selected fruit off the 575 OBX vineyard and is named after a classic jazz guitar chord. It is a blend of four of the classic five Bordeaux

varietals. 86% cabernet sauvignon, 10% Cabernet franc, 2% petite verdot, and 2% merlot. It's got a beautiful dark ruby color to it. On the nose, I get a minerality to it, a dust, a little bit of stoniness to it. And we'll be back. Hey, and we're back and we were discussing the Garziula vineyards 2018 g major seven cabernet sauvignon. So beautiful nose on it. Dusty, minerally, a little bit of dry stone on it. But on the palate, hold on. Mhm.

On the palate, it's beautiful. Just, just, just a beautiful oakiness, but not overpowering oak, whereas some people go just too far. But just that nice backbone of the oak, it's got some nice tight tenons on it, blackberries and cassis. Got a nice mouthfeel to it. I mean, for me, it coats the whole palate. Hmm. Mhm. What do you think, Denise?

>> Denise: I agree with everything you said and we're usually really in line with each other, but on the nose, I got, I thought a little bit of mint, like, ah, uh, you know, kind of like what's in my garden. I'm out there, I'm gardening a little bit, and then I get this little hint of mint every once in a while because I do grow mint, um, in the garden. So it had some floral notes, a little bit of mint.

Um, I thought definitely there, the palette had the stone, maybe a little charred wood, and some leather tobacco notes, which I thought were just fantastic because the nose was totally different. So again, when you pick up these notes on the nose and then the palette is very different. That's always really exciting and interesting and makes you go back, um, it's not. >> Brent: So much in your face meant julepde mint, but it's more than that cooling. >> Denise: Right.

>> Brent: Sensation. >> Maury: Eucalyptus in the background. Describe. >> Brent: I don't need any of you. I just me and her and we're fine. I don't need the rest of you guys. >> Maury: Sorry, I'll just go under a rock. >> Denise: But no, you know, again, I do grow mint and I garden, so I'm using the wet earth and I can smell

that. And then all of a sudden you get this little aroma of mint. And that's exactly what the nose on this glass is for me, which is always nice because I like gardening and delicious. >> Brent: What do you think, Bori? >> Maury: No, I agree. I agree with, uh, as I chimed in, um, the hint of mint eucalyptus is there, uh, it's got a lot of multi dimensionality, a, uh, lot of layers on the palette. Um, I would say the only thing I could search for that would, I would say would

be less than perfect, is it's. It's. It's a little thin. It's not quite as thick and viscous on my palate as I'd like it to be, but the flavors are there. And I, uh, thought it was extremely well made, and I thought it was delicious. Justin. >> Bob: So I really enjoyed the tannic structure of this expression. I was very well constructed. It was filled in with bright, uh, vibrant fruit for me. Um, and that carried on all the way to the finish.

And it is a red blend, so it's not evoking, like, a specific varietal memory, but it's a pretty cool blend altogether. And I think it's a fun wine. >> Brent: Bright. And it's not a brooding red. It's more of a bright red, like a fun one. Yeah. >> Maury: Yeah, I think that that describes it well. >> Brent: Yeah. We're gonna be rating the, uh, Garzula vineyards 2018 g major seven cabernet Sauvignon, a well deserved four sips. >> Denise: That's classified.

>> Brent: So we're gonna have more. Tell us about our next one. Gargoulo. >> Maury: Okay, thank you, Bob.

The, uh, next wine is the Gargoulo Vineyards 2018 money road ranch Cabernet Sauvignon. It clocks in at 14.6 aBv. The Minnie Road ranch is a single vineyard, 100% Cabernet sauvignon. It has been aged for 20 months in medium plus french bariques, 78% of which are new. And I heard a, uh, screeching again. >> Brent: Between a screech and a whistle, I said, what in the world is this? It's our favorite guy. >> Maury: Well, let me know when you're ready.

>> Brent: Remember that f 35 crash, and they found the guy in middle of nowhere, Isville, South Carolina, crashed in his backyard. That's him. I love that guy. >> Bob: He was, like, 70 years old, but he looked like not a day over 45. Had the energy of a 30 year old. >> Brent: Yeah, God bless him. >> Bob: He's my hero. >> Maury: I don't remember him well. In any event, this wine has a beautiful, deep, dark purple color.

It's got lots going on in the nose. The nose is just something you can just sit and inhale and imbibe for the whole afternoon. I love the palette on this. The mouth feel, classic cabernet sauvignon. It's just viscous. It's mouth coating. It's got lead, it's got graphite, it's got leather, it's got tobacco, it's got cassis. It's just got everything going on, and then it just keeps to go. On and on and on. The finish for me was medium to long. Uh, not the longest I've ever seen, but

delightful, enjoyable. Uh, beautifully well made. I think it's delicious. Today, I think this wine is going to age nicely for another half a decade or more. And, uh, I loved it. I was digging it. What do you think, Justin? >> Bob: So I could kill a lot of time and just repeat what you said, but instead, I'm going to ask Denise a question. >> Denise: Okay. >> Bob: So, off air, you let us know that you enjoyed screaming eagle, which is right next

door. So have you had their 100% cab, uh, at screaming eagle? That's one question. >> Denise: Yes. Right. Uh, I don't believe I've ever had a blend. >> Maury: No. The screaming eagle is 100% killed. >> Denise: Yeah. >> Bob: So compare that to this. >> Denise: Oh, well, I would like to compare them side by side. >> Bob: I would like to, too. Mister eagle, please send us some screaming over here. Go ahead.

>> Denise: Um, but it's hard not to just agree with Maury at this point that this is a classic cab. It has all the beautiful red fruit notes. >> Bob: Um. >> Denise: Um, it's got an amazing mouthfeel. It's got a terrific finish. It will stand up to. >> Maury: It's just got everything. >> Denise: And you want to put on the plate. Yeah. And, um, you know, I typically don't just drink my cabs with a meal. I like to drink them

with a meal. Absolutely. But I will certainly enjoy a glass before the meal and definitely finish the bottle after the meal. So, um, I think a cab like this just really, as you said, checks the boxes. To do all of your things just. >> Brent: Salty and fatty and delicious right now would be so good. >> Maury: So are they before, during, and after PDA? >> Bob: Girl, just compare the two. Like, tell. Tell us what screaming eagles like.

>> Denise: I'm sure I have never had it more often and can definitely give you a better. >> Maury: Screaming eagle is a big wine. And honestly, um, you know, in my opinion, it's, uh, it's become a commodity. It's become, uh, something, uh, to be traded. The values are very, very high, but honestly, I don't think the value is there in terms of what's in the glass. For what you're paying. It's. You're paying for the name and you're paying for the commodity. Most

people, unfortunately, are on the list. They buy it, they get it released, and they immediately turn it around and sell it because it's worth more unopened than it is in the bottle. >> Brent: Um, but here you've got a beautiful cab from literally the same vineyard. Right. Fantastic. >> Maury: At a fraction of the cost, fraction of the cost. >> Bob: Is it similar or way different? >> Maury: No, I would say it's fairly similar. They. They tend to be a

little bit more close. They tend to take a lot more time to develop. So you need time in the bottle. They need to age, then they need some air to open up. And I would say, again, the terroir is very similar. The handling is fairly similar. The wines are not that dissimilar. But you're paying a lot for the name. I think this is a great value. While it's not cheap, it's a great value. I think. Screaming eagle, most people would agree. You're. >> Brent: You're paying a gargoyle. Buy it.

Buy it. It's that simple. >> Denise: So do you have this in your collection? >> Bob: I actually have. I'm on the list, so I get their allocation every year. Garageulo. Um, and I was really curious about the comparison. Screaming eagle, only because it was right next door. >> Brent: Yeah. >> Denise: I think you would have to really try them side by side. >> Maury: Be fun to do a blind m. >> Denise: We could probably pull that off.

>> Brent: Great. Yeah. Great wines and a really nice place and lovely people. Uh, ah. Sharon over Athenae Gargiola is the one who sent us these wines. And thank you so much. Um, just as good as they were when we were there back in January. >> Bob: So thank you to Mike Lambrex for introducing me to Gargiulo. Yeah, he's in our, uh, fort Lauderdale Whiskey society, and he said, while you're out there, go try this. And I'm not regretting it. >> Denise: Oh, interesting.

>> Brent: Well, we're going to be giving the Garjoula vineyard, 2018 money road ranch Cabernet Sauvignon, a well deserved forceps. >> Denise: That's classified. >> Brent: So that's gonna take us to our next winery, and we're gonna have Denise tell us about that one. >> Denise: Well, I am more than happy to do that. However, there's a slight read in, and I apologize in advance if I feel. >> Brent: Free to drop anything in the reading.

>> Denise: You feel like wrong. But nevertheless, I've already some wine. >> Bob: You get a total pass. I got word what you say, and. >> Denise: English is my first language. That's my disclaimer. >> Brent: English is my third language, so I. >> Denise: Don'T want to annihilate it. Well, in 1900, when Georges de la Tour's wife, Fernand. Or is it Fernande Conte? Fernand. >> Bob: I'm gonna go silent.

>> Denise: Fernand first laid eyes on the land that would become their original Rutherford vineyard. She said, quai beaulieu or what a beautiful place shortly thereafter, de la Tour sold his thriving cream of tartar business, bought the four acre ranch, and founded Bolivia. >> Brent: Something that's left over. >> Maury: It's. >> Brent: It's tartric acid that you get from wine making. So. >> Denise: So why not?

>> Bob: I'm just thinking tartar sauce. Like, you got a tartar sauce? >> Denise: No, cream of tartar. It's pretty much potassium. Powdered potassium. Yeah. Interesting. >> Bob: I'm learning as we go. >> Denise: M. Well, they did. They bought the four acre ranch and founded Beaulieu Vineyard with the vision of making Napa Valley wines that would rival those of his native France. Georges. Is it George or Georges? >> Brent: I think George.

>> Denise: George, right. >> Maury: George. >> Denise: Georges. George and his wife expanded their landholdings over the next several decades and began importing. Sorry, my mic. >> Maury: Pest resistant vines. >> Denise: Past resistance. Pest resistant vines, and offered european visits, vinafera varieties that were grown, grafted, and shipped from Europe to his fellow wine

industry colleagues in California. He even established his own nursery in Paris to produce these grafted wines years before. What vines? Did I say wines? >> Maury: You did. It's okay. >> Denise: It's the wine. >> Bob: The wine will do it to you.

>> Denise: The wine and the vine. Years before prohibition began, de la Tour had the foresight to obtain a warrant to produce altar wine for the church and was thus positioned to become the first nationwide supplier of altar wine to catholic churches across America. In 1923, Georges de la Tour. >> Brent: People rule. We drank through prohibition. >> Denise: Purchased the Fred Ur Winery, a ah,

building that dates back to 1885. Its four original stone walls remain the core of today's Beaulieu vineyard winery in Rutherford. In 1938, de la Tour traveled to France and met Andre Chiff. >> Brent: Cholestichev. >> Denise: Yes. De la Tour hired Solexdaschev, a russian born analogist with european winemaking expertise and as a winemaker. After 35 years at Baile Vineyard, Teixelechef retired in 1973 in the role of winemaker. Passed to his successors after almost 20 years of

retirement. Andre Teixlachev rejoined Beaulieu Vineyard as a wine consultant and worked with the winemaking team to continue to bring innovation to the winery until his passing in 1994.

So today, we will try the beaulieu vineyards 2020 Cabernet Sauvignon. It comes in a 14.7% abv. It is 83% Cabernet Sauvignon, 4% chorbono, 4% petite syrah, 3% Merlot, 2% teriga nationale, 2% petite verdot, and 2% Malbach. After the grapes were destemmed and crushed, they fermented the mutzhe in stainless steel tanks until dry. Then they pressed the skins and gently transferred the freshly fermented wine to 60 gallon french, american, and european

oak barrels. 30% new formal lactic fermentation and 18 months of aging. Holy. Holy moly. Thank you for getting me through that. You did. And the russian pronunciation, it was like torture for someone. >> Bob: It had a couple choice. >> Denise: Yes. >> Brent: Uh, forget the tea. Chill. Last chip. >> Denise: Sure. >> Brent: So what do you think? >> Denise: I think it's great. >> Brent: There you go.

>> Denise: I think it's got a beautiful red ruby color. I love the bing cherry and cassis. You definitely get the description of those holiday spices. Um, if not at first, just give it a swirl, and they'll be there on the nose, which is really interesting because it's, like, in the background, it's just crazy. Um, the palette is big. It's big, dark cherries, just, uh, like, maybe stewed cherries. Um, just, it's amazing. It's a great wine.

>> Brent: It's Bowie of vineyards. Yeah, they always make great wine. I mean, I get the red currants. I definitely get the cherries and the cassis. >> Denise: Yeah. >> Brent: Mhm. And it's just bright red. Berries, raspberries, cherries. There's a really nice balance on the tannin. It fills the whole mouth, front, back, and sides. A little bit of BlackBerry on it. Just a lovely wine. What'd you think, loride?

>> Maury: I agree with you. I think it's more red, predominantly red fruit over black fruit. But the current, the red currant, the raspberry, the cherry, the cassis, uh, some holiday spice, as you noted. Again, it's voluptuous. Its mouth coating. It's got a really nice palette. It's got layers on the palette. A nice, long finish. It's a beautifully crafted wine. I mean, there's really nothing you can say. Uh, there's no flaws. It's just, it's just a beautiful wine.

>> Brent: Bv, they're always great. >> Maury: Yeah. >> Brent: You know, I mean, they're, they're, they're a stalwart and valley and have been forever. So that's, that's why I reached out to them, and I'm glad they sent us some wine. What did you think, Justin? >> Bob: So this, to me, is a classic french wine with Napa terroir. >> Denise: Oh, I like that. >> Bob: Which is what they were going for, and they

really pulled it off. Um, that being said, I agree with what everyone before me said. And what did you think, Bob? >> Brent: Well, I already said what I thought. >> Bob: But had a couple of glasses of wine.

So onto the next. >> Brent: We're going to be giving the Bowie Vineyard 2020 cabernet Sauvignon. A well deserved four sips. >> Denise: Yes, that's classified. >> Brent: Amazing blend. Torugo nationale. I mean, that's when you don't often see in Napa. >> Maury: Almost never. >> Brent: So that's going to take us to our next one, which is the Boyo vineyards.

2019 Rutherford Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon ABV 85% Cabernet Sauvignon, 10% petite verdot, 5% Malbec the 2019 vintage marks the second release of this Rutherford reserve cab. The grapes were hand picked between October 2 and 23rd, 2019, before being destemmed and cold soaked for seven days for gentle flavor extraction. During the eight to twelve day fermentation, they pumped over the cap to incorporate the skins into the juice before barrel aging for 21 months. And 100% french oak,

100% new. And that shows, because the. The oak on this is absolutely lovely. Oh, uh, it's just beautiful, bright french oak. Dark, dark, dark blackberries. Mhm. Lovely earthiness to it. A little bit of a minerality to it. Um, on the palate, there's blackberries, there's, um, that. That backbone of the oak. A little bit of cedar, a little bit of cinnamon. And again, that minerality just comes through. This is. This is. To me, this is your classic napa cab. You're

getting that stoniness, that dustiness. It's that Rutherford dust. Beautiful wine. What'd you think, Denise? >> Denise: I think I'd like somebody to expand on the Rutherford dust for me. I saw that description, and I thought that's. >> Brent: It's a dusty, minerally kind of character that you get in a lot of the Rutherford wines. >> Bob: So, you know, the dusty quality you get in, um, old bourbon. Yeah, it's a lot like that. >> Denise: Yeah, this one's really,

um. This kind of. It has a really nice mouthfeel. Um, it's a little forward on the tannins for me. What do you think about that? >> Maury: Yeah, well, it needs a little more time, and it needs a little bit of oxygen. It's definitely improved in the glass, and I agree it's a little bit young, but honestly, I agree with everything Bob said. I think it's a quintessential California cab. It's got much more black fruit than the previous, uh, wine that we tried from BV.

Uh, this one, you can definitely see the oak coming through. The oak gives it a much stronger backbone. It's got definitely more aging potential. And while I think it's beautiful now and definitely benefited from aeration, decantation, and time, I think it will continue to improve? >> Denise: Yeah, I think it has an overall bigger flavor profile. >> Maury: We'll be back. >> Brent: We'll be back. Hey. And we're back, and we were discussing the, uh,

bullyu vineyards. So, uh, 2019 Rutherford Reserve. I'm with Maury. I think we are at the. Just the very razor edge of where this needs to be drunk. It's great. Now, I don't think we've opened it too soon, but we were at the very beginning. >> Denise: Oh, no, it's going to get better. >> Brent: It's going to get better. >> Maury: And right now, I don't. >> Brent: I don't feel bad opening it now like I do with some wines that we opened before. This one, I think it's. We're

at the cussed, but this one is. This one's fantastic. And again, you and I are in agreement. This is your classic, classic, old school Napa cab. So we're going to be giving the boy you Vineyards 2019 Rutherford Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon a well deserved five sets. Oh, my goodness. So we're going to have Maury tell us about our next winery. >> Maury: Thank you, Bob.

The next wine is from Ehlers Estate. It is an organically farmed 42 acre vineyard located in St. Helena, Napa Valley, at the base of the Myakimas Mountains. Thank you. >> Brent: Yep. >> Maury: The original stone winery building, dating back to 1886, was built of tuff and basalt by Bernard Ehlers, a Sacramento grocerh who made his fortune selling tools to miners that had traveled to California in search of gold.

In 1885, he relocated his family to Napa Valley and established the winery on Ehlers Lane. After buying the property from a viticulturist who had lost his vines to phylloxora, Ehlers replanted the vineyard along with olive trees that continued to bear fruit. Today, after passing in 1901, Bernard's wife, Anna Ehlers, continued making wine in the stone

building after prohibition. A series of different owners, jean and Sylvain leduc, purchased some blocks of the vineyard in 1987, aiming to create a winemaking legacy like the great Chateau of Bordeaux. By 2001, Jeanne and Sylvain acquired the surrounding acres and the historic stone building to create the estate and restore the healer's name. Today, Eller's estate is owned by the Leduc Charitable Trust, established by Jean and Sylvain Leduc in 1996. It's a very interesting story.

>> Denise: It really is. >> Brent: It's a lovely winery, too. There's still. There's. You remember we were there in January. There were still some olive trees out front. So, yeah, huge, huge olive trees up front. >> Denise: But it just instills hope that you can go from a grocer to, like. >> Brent: You know, I'm still hoping I go from a lawyer to a winemaker. >> Denise: That's what I'm saying. There's still hope for all of us.

>> Maury: So the first wine is the Ehlers Estate portrait, 2020. First Helena Appalachian, 14.5% abv. The varietals are 47.5% Cabernet Sauvignon, 17.5% Cabernet franc, 29% Merlot, 6% petite verdot, and 18 months of barrel aging. This is a beautiful, deep ruby color. On the nose, definitely luxardo cherries. Hit the citrus and some strawberry jam. Very bright. And fruit forward. Nose on the palate, it's definitely mouth coating. Weaves through the tannins. There are layers of

plum. I get a little bit of rhubarb, a tonch of sea salt, and then there's this just persistent, uh, backbone of, uh, tannin that kind of carries through with a medium to long finish. I thought this was really a delightful wine. It was not one that I'm familiar with prior to tasting it. Uh, but I thought it was extremely well made and very, very enjoyable. What did you think, Denise? >> Denise: Oh, well, thanks for asking, because I was a little hung up on the luxardo cherries that you

described. Uh, I am a fan of luxardo cherries. I recently had a cocktail, and the person that made it, like, what is this garbage that you're giving me? >> Brent: There is only luxardo. >> Denise: Thank you, Bob. >> Brent: There is only luxardo. Everything else is imitation m. And it. >> Denise: Was not a luxardo cherry. And I was called a luxardo cherry snob. So I have no problem with that. >> Brent: I'm totally fine with it.

>> Denise: I love the luxardo cherry description on the nose. It's right there. I, um, did get the strawberry or strawberry jamden. Um, and you're. You're. Well, I hate to say that you're right, Maury, but the rhubarb, I think. >> Brent: I would never know. >> Denise: That was really hard about anything. I'm just have to go into therapy for that statement. But, uh, the rhubarb, uh, because it's not so sweet. So it's not this sweet smell. >> Brent: Like a rhubarb forward.

>> Denise: Right. I don't get so much of the sea salt or sea spray. Um, I got more on the nose, but. Exactly. But not on the palate. But it has a lovely finish and a great mouthfeel. And it's enjoyable wine. I actually gave it a nice rating today. >> Brent: Yeah. I get more of the sea spray on the nose than I do on the palate. >> Denise: Yes. >> Brent: Um, sometimes that saltiness will come through as a minerality. Sometimes it's more dusty, stony, as opposed to salty.

I get the sea spray on the palate. Hmm. >> Denise: But it does have definitely some acidity. >> Brent: It's got such, just, just lovely, silky, round, smooth tannins. I mean, they're so well incorporated. Um, just dark, dark fruit. Mmm. >> Denise: M. Yeah, it's definitely drinkable today. >> Brent: Yeah, it's, it's. I think it'll get better with time. But this one again, uh, that's one of the ones that I don't feel guilty about opening. This one is delicious.

And we were there a few months ago at the winery, and it's a beautiful little property that most people don't even know is there, and they're missing out. They make fantastic wine. What'd you think, Justin? >> Bob: So on the nose, I got, um, olives and Tony Chachieri seasoning on the palate. >> Denise: Tony Tatieri. >> Bob: Tony Tatieri season. >> Denise: Yeah. >> Bob: Really good on a rib eye. Oh, yeah. Got a ribeye pork.

>> Denise: That's in New Orleans, right? Seasoning or no? >> Bob: Yeah, yeah. >> Denise: Right. >> Bob: Yeah. And I definitely got, like, really good tannic structure on this. It was smooth. I got fruits. I even got the rhubarb because I have, like, a, uh, rhubarb pie at our other co host, Brent's house. Kind of nightmares. >> Denise: Nightmares. >> Bob: Yeah. I'm not a big rhubarb pie guy.

>> Brent: Oh. >> Bob: But the rhubarb worked in this expression. It just doesn't work as a pie for me. Oh, uh, let me smell that. Yeah, we got some Tony chacheries here for the people. >> Brent: That helps when you're recording at the house. >> Bob: Yeah, see? >> Brent: Yeah, I got chat cherries. >> Bob: What we're doing here, dude, I got, I got. >> Denise: He's got a base full of nine.

>> Brent: Cabinets full of spices. I got about twelve kinds of salt in this house. >> Bob: So I love that I pull it out of my you know what and Bob's got it. >> Denise: Mm hmm. >> Brent: Well, we're going to give the Eagles estate, uh, portrait 2021 a well deserved forceps. >> Denise: That's classified. >> Brent: Justin, why don't you tell us about our next one from Eeyore's estate?

>> Bob: So the next one we're going to talk about is Ehlers estate. Jean Leduc, 2020. First Helena appellation. It's 14.5% alcohol. By volume, it's 100% cab, single block, 20 months barrel aging. And, uh, this one I get, like, uh, graphite. I get bright fruit. I get, like, ah, oranges on the palate. I get, um, like a rock quarry. I get bold fruit. And the finish, it's like all side palette. It's bright, then it fades away quick. >> Brent: What do you think, Maury?

>> Maury: Well, thank you for asking, Justin. I think that this wine is decidedly a little bit different than the previous wine. I agree with everything you said. I think it's got a lot of graphite. I found the graphite, the lead, um, those interesting mineral like, uh, notes to be pencil, uh, shavings, uh, to be fairly prominent both on the nose and on the palate. This sort of note of, like, kind of crushed rock and dark, brooding dark black fruits and blue fruits. Uh, I thought it

was a very nice wine. I really enjoyed it quite a lot. It was similar, but as in related, but yet different to the portrait. >> Brent: This is the darker nap. Uh, yeah. Like the last bv we had was the classic napa cab. This is the dark and sinister napa cab. >> Maury: Well, thank you for that. And I would agree with you. Would you like to expand on that? >> Brent: I think it's absolutely lovely. Um, again, the minerality comes through the graphite comes

through this. You know, the dusty stone. Um, dark fruit. Very, very, very dark fruit. Like dark, um, stewed fruit. A lovely tannin to it. Not overpowering tannin, but but an encompassing tannin surrounds the whole mouth, front, back, palate, side palate. Gets you everywhere you need to go. Um, just a beautiful wine. Absolutely beautiful wine. >> Maury: I thought it was a nice step up from the previous one. I thought it was beautiful. >> Brent: Yeah. What do you think, Denise?

>> Denise: No, I think that this wine is, um, just amazing. It's lovely. It's got so much going on, but not, um, in an overdone way or a muted way where there are so many, um, flavors or flavor profiles that you can't identify them. You definitely can. Uh, the nose is lovely. The palette is wonderful. It's interesting that there's a description of it being more mineral and sanguine, um, which is a term that I know all too well, um, from the hospital.

And I'm pretty confident they're not describing it as being positive, but more like blood, where you will often, um, have a more iron or metallic sort of, uh, hint to it. And, um, I get that definitely on the palate, which is interesting. So you can typically pick that up on the nose. Um, but you can pick it up on a palate if you've ever cut yourself and put it to your lips. But, um, so that's an interesting way to describe it, but they're spot on with that, and it's lovely. And

I'm not a vampire. I just want to put that out there. >> Bob: Making the comment that somebody thinking in. >> Denise: My head, that was, there's two lawyers. >> Brent: At this table, so if you are a vampire, you're among friends. Don't worry. >> Denise: I do tend to show up at 02:00 a.m. in a dark basement. So we believe in vampires. Where the wine vampires. That'll be our next podcast, right? >> Brent: Yeah, it's just a lovely, lovely.

I mean, it should really show in terroir, I think. I think it's a beautiful wine. So we're going to be giving the. It was estate, uh, Jean Leduc, 2021, a well deserved forceps.

So that's going to bring us to our last wine of the day, which is the Ehlers estate, 1886 Cabernet Sauvignon, 2020, first Helena Appalachian 14, uh .5% abv, 100% cabernet sauvignon, single block, uh, 20 months of barrel aging. So it's got a nice dark, dark plum color to it with a nice rim that's kind of a dark ruby. Blackberries, cassis, a little bit of blueberry in there and on the palate. >> Bob: Very. >> Maury: Mhm.

>> Brent: I mean, beautiful fruit forward, but there's a very nice. Usually when you get a fruity wine, it doesn't have that base to it, but this has a really nice underlayment, a really nice base to it. Um, I love the winemakers notes. They had hoisin sauce, and I've been like. And I've been trying to find that, and I'm like, I, man, I buy hoisin by the five gallon bucket. Like, I'm not getting that, but, uh. >> Denise: I couldn't find it either. >> Brent: I was hoping for it.

I use that stuff like ketchup, but. >> Denise: Definitely the berry compote. Oh, yeah, that comes through, but the hoisin. And even on the nose with that smoked paprika in the beginning, I'm like, uh, I don't really get that at all. But actually, I do know, you know, it's nice when they sit in the glass and they open up a little bit and they change over time. That makes. Screws up my scores, by the way.

>> Brent: I mean, with wine, it's. That's why when we do the shows, I mean, we'll double or even triple aerate these before we, um, go to tasting. But over the course of tasting notes and over the course of recording an hour show. You know, you've got a couple hours in on these wines, and they. They will drastically change. And, and it's not uncommon that we're sitting at the table and I'm waving at everybody going, like, hey, up or down?

You know, I mean, everybody's talking about this one like it's the greatest thing ever. Sometimes our, our scores do change over time because of that. >> Maury: But in fairness, they rarely go down. They often go up. >> Brent: Uh, they often go up. >> Maury: And I think that that underscores something that's worth mentioning, and that is patience pays off in general. If you pour something, whether it be wine or whiskey, and you don't appreciate it to the max in the first

five minutes, give it time. Walk away. Walk away. Come back to it, and you will be rewarded. >> Brent: If you're locked in that prison of a bottle for how many years? >> Maury: Many. >> Brent: Give it time. Let it stretch. It's like you getting off of a airline trip to Hong Kong. I mean, good lord, man. Give it some time to stretch and move around and shake it off and. And let us see what it's all about. >> Maury: No, I agree. I think that very little bad could happen

going, uh, uh, giving it extra time. But you can definitely miss the. >> Brent: I can experience the ones in my hand that have gotten worse over time, you know? You know, I mean, sometimes it doesn't make a difference difference, but it always helps. So it's fantastic. What do you think, Justin? >> Bob: So I got, um, the blackberries that people mentioned. I got white pepper and smoked pulled pork. >> Brent: Yeah, well, you know, that's just like.

>> Maury: Uh, your opinion, man. >> Bob: And the finish was great. I got, like, a little bit of soy on the back palate. Um, the fruit came through. I was very happy. I didn't get the hoisin either. >> Denise: But you got the soda, so you're almost there. >> Brent: We're so hoping for the hoisin. >> Bob: We were hoping for it, but when. >> Brent: I was putting the scripts together, I'm like, hoisin? Oh, my word. And we'd had it.

>> Denise: I need to have a dumpling. >> Brent: We'd had it at the winery. And I'm like, I don't remember that. But, you know, I'd been drinking all day, so who knows? >> Bob: It could happen. >> Brent: Yeah. But, uh, we're gonna be raiding the Ewers estate 18, uh, 86. Cabin 2021. A well deserved gorsips. If you find any of the ealers wines, grab them. >> Maury: They're very hard to find. I have not seen any.

>> Brent: Well, most of what we have here, other than the BV is, you're not going to find. You've got to look for it. It takes time, so. Well, I want to thank everybody for joining us today. Thank you, Denise. >> Denise: Thank you. >> Brent: And thank you, Maury. >> Maury: Thank you, Bob. Another fantastic morning in the basement. >> Brent: Would you care to inhale the Tony Chaudhries? >> Maury: I'm, um. Okay. Thank you. >> Brent: Draw your wine.

>> Denise: I was gonna say you could snort it and. >> Brent: Ah, thank you, Justin, thank you very. >> Bob: Much for the wine, inside and out. >> Denise: Oh, yeah, you had a little mishap over there. >> Brent: Somebody's had a. Yeah, somebody needs a bib. This is what we do for you, our fans. Uh, we drink and we sacrifice. Well, thank you for joining us. Remember, life's too short to drink cheap wine.

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