Welcome to our experiment. One hundred person projects, simple questions for one hundred people. I'm Bill Correll, and this is my investigation. This is my research project to gather data from one hundred beautiful human beings for the sole purpose to see what actually happens across the interviews. Now, the questions are fixed and all the interviews will remain consistent, with a variable being the actual participants
themselves and of course their answers. So it's as if Sam I'm having you come sit on my porch to share your thoughts so I can learn about people. Now, I'm looking forward to what we're going to learn at the end of this, and I have no idea what it's going to be when we're complete and have interviewed one hundred people, but very interested in all the people, the process, and of course your particular story and it's my distinct pleasure.
Well, okay, why don't we have you introduce yourself? What is your full name? My full name is Samantha Meredith Ruth. Samantha Meredith Ruth. And what are the origins of the particles of your name? Who did you get them from? My parents? Terry Scharf, my dad's name is Melvin Scharf, but he goes by Buddy, nice, great, and anything in particular about those names where they well, I was supposed to be named
Rebecca, thank God. Nothing against the Rebecca, but I just don't see myself as a Becky or And when I was born, my dad decided I did not look like one, and Samantha, I came. I think that's awesome. I have a Becky by the way, And no, you don't necessarily look like a Becky, but I could see you going a lot of different ways depending on whoever it was that loved you and named you. So along those lines, what is your favorite nickname that most people don't know?
My dad calls me Sambo. Sambo. I like it. And when did he start calling you that? God, as long as I can remember, like my brother, a lot of family called me Sammy, but he's the only one who ever called me Sambo. And the Sambo is your favorite. For sure. Give you a good feeling when you say, yeah, you're smiling, Okay, I get it. So now here's an interesting one. When did you first notice what color hair you had? I have no idea,
absolutely no idea. Probably I would say sometime in elementary school. Can you recall anytime when it was kind of interesting or important to you? I'm not a girly girl. You're not, are you? So what kind of girl are you? I'm a tomboy, total tomboy. Sports, no dolls, no pink, never mind what color it is, it's in my way. Can I get it out of here? Yes? Good for you.
So I'm going to resist calling you any of your nicknames simply because I don't have your permission yet, but at some point along in our relationship, I will. Now, what is your favorite thing to do to intentionally waste time? Anything? With? Anything? With my dogs? So say some more about that. Do you have more than one? I have two? This
is my youngest. Yep, Fassy is turning twelve this year. Don't know exactly when Dallas is five, and so anything, you know, if we have time, an outdoor adventure somewhere, but you know, we can amuse ourselves with a stick. Yeah. Do you throw balls? Do you have one of those big lung plastic dubers that you chuck it and goes about one hundred yards and then they get it and they come back panting. That's one of my favorite things in the world, and you know, and it's amazing.
I guess there's a thing inside of the dog, the way that they're wired. No matter how many times you throw that ball, I've never seen one get get disinterested in kind of look away and go I'm not doing it. Oh no, no. And the reason I hesitated was because to me, it's just not a waste of time. That was why I had to think, is there something else that you do that you would consider a waste of time? Because I agree with you, that's building relationship with a family
member, isn't it. Uh yeah, yeah, I mean I get like wasting time TV football, you know sports, that's but again I love that. Well, since you brought it up, we got creamed last night by by Crayton and omaha, they won by twenty points and that was really just a flash knockout. So I'm still recovering from that anyway. So this one, this one will be kind of interesting. And I really don't know what you know your favorite is, But what's your favorite movie to watch alone?
Not much of a movie person, trash Ank, Redemption, I get it, What do you like about it? I'm a big Morgan Freeman fan. I love the struggle, the storyline, the overcome, you know, the the wrong do it? You know? I just the whole the whole movie. He uh, that's why. And it's not my favorite to watch alone. It's probably my favorite movie overall. But I'm not good with favorites. Usually I have to say three or four. But there's nothing that's like about
that movie. Well, i'll tell you what. I completely agree with you. There is so much in terms of the character development and the ending. If you haven't watched this movie, you folks at home, I highly recommend it. It is one of probably the top five movies as far as I'm concerned for showing off who Morgan Freeman is. In the diversity of his acting talent, he can be anybody at any time that he needs to, even God. So, if you were to have an action figure made of you,
Samantha, what superpower would it have? And what colors would the uniform be? Green? Even though I went to Michigan go Blue, it's big, I have to clarify. And what like the Jetsons where you could get in the elevator and go like go anywhere in a blink yep, that would be my power without yeah, so you get in the elevator. The elevator, I would just be able to go from you know, I could just
hey, get to you in a blink. I love the Stephen Wright quote where he says, I got into the elevator and I pressed Pittsburgh right. Not bad, you know, because so many of my people are not next door. I hear you on that. I've got family spread all over the world. You know, I'm primarily concentrated in the United States, but they're also in Australia, South Africa, in Dubai. So I've been trying to figure out you know, I've been in the IT industry a very long time.
I've been trying to figure out how to send myself as an email attachment for about thirty years. Yes, I don't got it yet, but I'm working on it. Back to the future, these are these, these are the inventions we need. But forward. So she's got a mind of her own. My watch just all of a sudden answers or says that she's looking for stuff on the internet. I don't know what we say to get her excited, but there she is. So let's talk a little bit more about
the ability to go somewhere at the blink of an eye. And would it mostly just be to be around loved ones or would you use it in a different way where you could teleport, like you know, whole towns and you know that sort of thing. Oh, you know, I I travel, I do you know crazy crazy things change the world. Well, yeah, you're going to do that anyway, I'm pretty sure. So where in the world would you like to go that this would make it available to you?
So New Zealand is top of my list, islands or fjords are both? Or all of the above? All of the above that would be So Jim and I went to the world. Doesn't know who Jim is yet, but I went to Costa Rica for my honeymoon and we had planned to go to New Zealand for my tenure anniversary, which is this year. Yep. So you're going to be otherwise engaged as far as I will be, I know, but it's next on my big trip. Like where would you know where would my next big trip be there? Yeah? I share your passion.
It's on our bucket list as well. And I have an attorney that I worked with. He was my corporate attorney until he reached hired for thirty years and he spent six months over there, both in the northern and in the southern half that I guess are divided by a body of a body of water or a huge I don't know what it is because I don't know the geography, but he's really good at talking about it. And he said that's where he really got the passion for walking. You know, he just hikes all
the time. He's about seventy seven years old, and he's in better physical and shape than most twenty year olds that I know. I believe it. And you did mention something about Jim, and that's kind of up to you. This is your time, this is your story, and if that's something you'd like to, you know, let folks know about. I'm more than happy to give you the give you the microphone for a minute or two, or we can move on. Oh, Jim is everything. He's the love
of my life. I met him when I was twenty four, just finishing my master's degree. We were young and silly and stupid, so we were together for a few year years and then we went our separate ways, knowing that we were meant for each other. So neither one of us found anyone else during that time. When we reconnected and he had moved to Colorado. I we're both from Michigan, and he said, please don't make me move back there. And so we were engaged in months, and I moved to
Colorado. We were married, and he unexpectedly passed away from an undetected heart condition. He'd had his whole life less than four years after that. So I'm so sorry for your loss. And I'll tell you what I know, that's a big part of your life now in terms of what you're doing and your commitment to make the world a better place and to change it. Yes, so tell me a little bit more about the Michigan experience. Whereabouts in Michigan. Were you the Metro Metro Detroit area, not the pretty parts?
Yeah, I mean, arguably there's some cool stuff going on there too. My dad was he was a city boy. He was born and raised downtown, and he worked for an exclusive grocer while he was in high school, delivering food to all of the Fords and the DuPonts and all of the other folks in Detroit. And the other thing is is that I had his whole
side of the family that lived there. My grandfather and grandmother lived on University, which was about four blocks away from the Algiers riots back in nineteen Algiers Street riots in nineteen sixty eight. So if I say Warren, and I say you know Royal Oaks, and I say Rochester and Sterling Heights and Dekwinder and you know those those are yeah, exactly. So we spent some lovely time there, a few trips before, all before I was fourteen years old.
But yeah, it was great. So let's move on to what did you want to grow up to be? When you were five years old? This I knew, like I'm one of those people who always knew. I don't think I knew the word psychologist, but I knew I would be doing something of this nature. And by seven I knew. I went on a field trip with school, and I went to a private school at that point
in time. Very diverse. You're laughing. I'm laughing because I can just see you sitting at a little you know, a little kiosk like Lucy van Pelton and Peanuts. The doctor is way in Nichols, Nichols, Nichols, Nichols. Well, I went on this field trip and I went to this small private school. I'm this. I mean, I was this big. My best friend was to me she would a giant black girl. I did
not know this. And we went on a field trip where we were with a bunch of other schools and she got bullied and she froze, so little me, like two foot tall, Sam took over and I came to the rescue. But I came home from school and please, don't anyone take offense to this. I was seven years old. I told my parents I wanted to become black with Heather because I did not understand the difference, and I was disturbed, and I from that moment on wanted to be the voice of
anyone who didn't have one. I wanted to, you know, change injustice. And so I did. You know, you can picture there. I was this little, tiny, uh seven year old, bound and determined. And at that point my dad laughed like, oh uhuh. And now he's like, she did it. She's doing it. Good for you. And I'll I'll tell you what, I really think that from the mouths of babes, you get such pure authenticity and genuineness in that moment, you know,
of course you did. I mean, how could you not want to be, you know, that person who steps in because you had a successful experience, you know, doing that, And I'm sure you became like friends for life, at least until the next three grades. Right, I don't know where she is. I'm on a mission to find her also. But no, you know, we were dear, dear friends until we both changed schools after sixth grade. But that's a defining moment in my life. Yeah,
I'm answer. I would imagine. I'm clearly she was probably telling the story a few minutes ago, you know, to someone else, no doubt about it. You know, this little kid, I know, and you know when I think about that for a minute, you know, and you were five years old and you're already thinking in terms. Did you know what the word was or what it meant, or how you would do it? You just want to help people, right, And I wanted to help the underdog
champion for a noble cause. Yes, that would be you, no doubt about it. I didn't want to just work with kids. I wanted to work with the kids. No one else wanted to work with I hear that. I mean, God, that just touches my heart. That's exactly who I am. As well. Let's just say that there are lots of ways for folks that have been noticed to get help. It's the quiet ones over
in the corner that you have no idea what's going on. Those when you turn them loose on the world and give them a sense of who they are, you know, mind, spirit, and body, you couldn't stop them if you tried. And it's really like looking at the Grand Canyon to watch somebody like that open up and really, for the first time in their life figure out who they are, you know. So that's me saying what I got from you, whether I received it correctly or not, I'm sure you'll
let me know. And I'm from my dad, a retired doctor, and a lot of medical people in my world. So I thought psychiatrist or hospitals. And then I was like, no, no, they get you for five minutes and then you leave right. That won't do, you know, So I had to explore and find my way. But that wasn't good enough. Like that was five minutes and then they then they're gone. I wanted
the relationship. Well, I'll tell you what. I never even heard about a psychologist or a psychiatrist other than TV, and never had an idea of what it was until I got out of college and someone told me they were a lot older than me, and they were mentioning that they had been they had an analyst that they had had for eighteen years and it was going really well. And I said, I said, eighteen years and it's going really well. And they said, what if you didn't have that person? He
says, I'm not going to try it. He says, this allows me to go and flush my brain out, you know, once every two weeks. He says. It's not a lot of money. At that time, I think it was like forty dollars a session. I don't even want to know what it is these days. But but yes, so you get a relationship with a lot of people that, even if you're not, you know, producing some kind of a product for them in terms of the psycho analyst
or psychology. You have friends that for the rest of your life, they're going to come look you up, like a really great high school teacher or something. Yeah, you know, confidentiality is really important to me. But we were on a call last night and you saw two different examples of someone who I've stayed in touch with for twenty years and someone I reconnected with but chose to share. You know, I used to work with Sam and because of that, I almost cried. I'm going to cry now, you know.
I chose to become a psychologist like you know these are there are some people who maybe see you and don't remember you. But I can tell you. You know, if you said Joe Schmo, I can remember every detail. You know, they touched my life as much as they say I touched theirs. Yeah, I get it, and I've noticed it, noticed it and put it into my column of that's pretty freaking cool. Okay, so uh, here's here's the next one. What is your greatest accomplishment? Thank
you? I think it's it's happening. You're watching it. We're doing some pretty big stuff in honor of losing my husband. I've created what I call grief Have, which is rehab for grief because I couldn't find the support I needed and I am doing things to change this grief world that doesn't exist. Yeah. Yeah, And this would be a great spot for you to say a little bit more about that, because I I do know that this is
a burgeoning field. And last night on the call, I was sitting there, thinking to myself, I almost said out loud, I said, I said, y'all are using some jargon that I'm not really familiar with. And it's powerful to have distinctions, you know, behind that jargon that allow you access to being able to communicate with people and be with precision, you know,
And that's true for everything. It's true in what I do in the IT industry's I did a lot of you know, grease monkey stuff in my early twenties and some carpentry, and there's things that you just have to be able to say in the language of whatever that discipline is. And so I'm glad to be around It's nice to learn something new every time I'm around you, folks. And I truly believe you know, I was always ready to change the way the world viewed mental health. I knew that I was doing
that. When I lost Jim, I suddenly learned the grief world is really similar. People looked at me like I had horns. They didn't know how to talk to me, you know. All of a sudden, I was like, there's a similarity here, and you lose people. It became very, very isolating. So the mission became to change the way the world views grief and mental illness, and there's just nothing out there. There's just not
and what is isn't enough. You heard so many people say I wasn't even given a pamphlet, you know, the places that you should be getting a resource or or somebody saying, you know, let me help you find something at the time of loss. It doesn't happen when you're going through this trauma and we're left to our own devices when we are at our lowest point. Yeah, well, what possibility enough to tell you what? This is?
Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm sure before, Jim, you probably thought about grief in a particular way, and then afterwards, I'm sure that transformed
into something that was full of rich distinctions. And last night we were talking about using words like navigate and negotiate and all this sort of thing with I never even thought that that grief was something there was anything you could do about, you know, And to me, it was like, you know, the getting punched in the nose over and over and over again, and that's
it. I just knew it hurt, you know. So I appreciate that, and I really think that it is your greatest accomplishment because you are training other people, You're providing a leadership that I think is really needed in the world. And in terms of questions for one hundred really beautiful people, I'm glad we're spending some time today. Okay, thank you, You're very welcome. So along those lines are maybe completely different domain. Who's your favorite person
to listen to? Sam Jack Canfield, who is the creator of the chicken soup for the Soul series, has been a mentor of mine for my entire probably since I was in college, and I've always used his books with my clients. And when I lost Jim and I was sitting under a tree with my one dog, Sassey and his book The Success Principles, someone came up and said, are you part of his training group? And I did not know he had one, and so I was fortunate enough to be able to
work with him in person. So not only is he a mentor out there in the figurative world, he's actually somebody who helped me get through when I really thought I would not only never work in my own field again, I didn't know what was next. So he's my favorite. Yeah, And I'll tell you what. From my standpoint, the chicken soup for the soul original one and success principles and all that. Something I read all those years ago, but I'd be hard pressed to tell you word for word what's in it.
It just left me with a particular feeling. And that particular feeling is basically, anything is possible for anybody at any time. And it's not rocket science, right, you know. It's it's stuff that we can all do and apply to our daily life. And if you do it, and you do it consistently, you can have a different outlook and a different quality. And my life has changed because of it, and I've met the people who helped me get here. Yes, and I'll tell you what that's That's not
for nothing. There are some people that are really good to have in your rollodecks. And I don't think that if you wanted to be six degrees of separation from anybody on the planet, he removes a bunch of degrees for you, you know, just being who he is, no doubt about it. So I'm having fun with my electronics over here. They've got a mind of their own. Today, could be always, it could be, no doubt about it. So all right, so that's cool. You like to listen
to Jack and with darn good reason. He's been transformational in your life and giving you an awful lot of energy and a lot of support just thinking about him. So let's move on to the next question, and that is, please complete this sentence. When I grow up, I'd like to play interesting and I get it. That's so say some more about that so the folks at home can start to grasp it and take it on board. I had to grow up too fast. I've taken life too seriously for a long time.
Losing Jim has made me take life. I don't want to say less. I'm very intentional with how I spend my time, with who I spend my time, and as hard as I work, you know, I spend all my time working to change this world. When I grow up, I also want to have fun and I have a lot of pain, So I want I want my free time to be enjoyable and happy and laughing and fun. Yeah, I mean, I get it. So the neat the neat part of all of that is is that the fun and the happiness and all
the rest of that is something that comes from inside of you. It's not out there in the world. There's no place to look for it that if you cut it open, you'll find happiness and fun on the inside. And I know you know that because the minute that you said it, your f face just lit up like a Christmas tree. It was fantastic. So I don't have any question, and I get the feeling also that you're having that future fun now in a lot of instances. And thanks for sharing that.
That's what I wanted to get out there for the folks at home, well to anybody in a struggle. Although I will say that last year, which was my sixth year, is the first year that I started to enjoy living again. It's the first year that I wasn't forcing myself. I was doing things and enjoying them. So even being able to say that answer, you
know, that's something I didn't know if I would smile again. So that really, truly is for people who have been through what we've been through, something that I didn't even know if I would be able to do again. It's in the classification of big deal. You know that most people take for granted and they have their moments and all the rest of that and move on, and at some point you have to be a very strong person to get back, to have the trust in the universe to be able to generate that
for yourself. In my opinion, so I like it. Have fun when you grow up. I think you're doing that. So what is the most important thing in life to you right now? Family is always the most important thing in life to me. I was torn between this mission, but family first. Always take some more about that. Who is your family? How many folks would you consider to be family, and what's your relationship to you? Well, you met Dallas. I have Stacy sitting over here right now.
Who is my oldest, my parents. I have a younger brother and two nieces who are my world. Ye it took Jim. You know, I would not have left Michigan. And big tribute to my brother because my youngest niece is eleven. I've been in Colorado over ten years and I was very nervous to leave, thinking I wouldn't be as close with her as I am with my oldest and we are the best of friends. So that says a lot about my brother, my relationship with him and what he's done for
us to be as close. So that's my biological family. Well I'm guessing it says a lot about you as well. I have a feeling that you have the capacity to unlock love inside of other human beings at a master level, and not in a manipulative way, but in a way that basically allows people to strip away the nonsense to just get to what's genuine, genuine and true. Well, thank you, I haven't heard that before. Thank you. Well, I'm a fairly good listener people tell me, and I can
hear that all around you and what's not being said. Okay, so that's a great thing to be important to you right now. And the next question is kind of like a summary for what we've talked about and whatever else you want to add in there, Sam, what would you like to leave in the world after your life is done. I want to be the person who changed this grief culture and mental illness. I am going to be yes. Yes, and by being an icon and being willing to be used by that,
that whole thing. It's kind of similar with there's a lot of people who think they understand who Jack Canfield is, or they think they understand who Deepak Chopra is, and what they have inside of them is only a taste of it, and unfortunately without really knowing the whole person. What you get to take away is the good stuff, and people may not really what you've actually done and how you've worked in the world, just that you. Golly, you've got to be a really smart check, didn't you. I lack
some common sense. I don't have the best street smarts, but intelligence book smarts that they're there. Yes, one hundred percent. You have worked on that gray matter and put a lot of wrinkles in that brain. I can tell. And also being a city girl, I know you know what bakers do when you buy a dozen of something, they give you a free whatever it is, dozen rolls. What have you? So your baker's question is what is the thing that most people misunderstand about you? Well, I would
say we have to ask them. I think, uh hmm, I'm in the past. I would say that I had like a tough edge. I didn't let people in losing Jim broke all of that down. And I have no walls. I don't know. That's a great question. Now I want to know the answer. Let's keep going. I think you're onto something that there's a wall. Well, actually that people think there is. Do you think there is no I think I'm like an open book. There you go.
That's the rest of this story, as they say, And not only that, you're yeah, maybe just maybe you're an available open book and not really hard to access if people will hang in there for a minute. Yeah, I put it all out there. You can reach me anyway, real numbers. It's fantastic. And is there anything else about being misunderstood? Possibly? Well, I think in the world of grief, you look like you're
fine. So as I am now six plus years out there working all the time trying to change things, many people might think I've gotten through it, and so I cry every day. Yeah, I don't hyperventilate in fetal position like I did the first year, but I'm not okay. I cope better, and I have much better tools and support system. But I just choose happiness and I choose a positive outlook. But you know, i'd give anything
to have Jim here. Yeah, one hundred percent. And while you're speaking, I'm kind of left with that truism about people who appear to be always happy to everyone else having the same capacity at the other end, you know, to really go deep and get lost in a moment or two of you know, just despair and what's going on here? And that's why being compassionate to people who you think have a lot of capacity for upset is really a
good idea. You know. That's that old saying. You know, if you can be anything, first be kind, you know, and especially with somebody who you think is got an edge, if you will, So so thank you. That's fantastic. And now that wraps up our scripted questions. And I'd like to ask you, Samantha, do you have any questions for me? How did you come to these questions? Interesting like this format?
It was really me struggling with a question of during the twenty sixteen to twenty twenty two time period and hearing about all of these things going on at college campuses with identity politics, identity this, that and the other thing, and me kind of wondering, what is it about people? You know, what are people up to today? What do they think like? And so I shamelessly stole the concept from James Lipton and his you know, the Screen Actors
Workshop, I believe it's called. It hasn't been on live for a little while because I think, you know, he may have passed, But the same questions each one of them, and you know, what's your favorite swear word? And when you get to the golden you know, the purly gates, what would you like for Saint Peter to say to you? Or whatever? And so I thought, how could I attract folks and give them a sense of comfort and safety in terms of answering pretty innocuous questions. I mean,
because listen, you know how threatening is. When did you first notice what color your hair is? You know? But everybody's got different things that that leads to, and so I want to know more about people. I'm very curious. I'm an inquisitive guy, and I love people. I don't know if you can tell that I love everyone. I'm not afraid to say it out loud, and I tell all my networking buddies. I hug them and I tell them I love you, and I actually mean that, and
I generate it in every moment. And I just haven't met everybody I love yet I'm still meeting all of those people. So that was it. We had another podcast that we had started called Lighting the Candle, A World That Works, and I think we were thirty or forty episodes into that. I think we're up over one hundred and fifty on that one now, But is that a good answer to your question? That's kind of what drove this.
I want to go and find out, given all of the identity training, and I want not going to use the psychological term that you and I both would know, but I'm basically going to say, and you know that they're they're learning things that are not natural to learn in an environment that's not natural to be taught. And so I want to know do they still feel the same way? I mean, how do people answer these questions? Are they all fundamentally just human beings? Kind of like you when you were seven years
old and you decided you wanted to be black when you grow up? Yeah, I was ready. Yeah I got you. So that's it. Anything else, what do you want to be when you grow up? Well, okay, I'm out to set the world on fire at my right bold age of seventy next month. And I still feel that I can make a contribution one starfish on the beach at a time, and have those folks make a
contribution one starfish at a time in between us. We can make this world at pretty freaking safe and awesome place for people to put their head on the pillow, and so I'm really up to that. I really want to make as many friends as I possibly can. And I also want to train people in the areas that they say that they would like to be trained that will make them more powerful. I have more access to empowerment. And that's pretty much it. I'm an empowerment guy. You know, well, you're doing
it all, mayhaps. I am. So anything you'd like to say to the folks at home is kind of a wrap and you know what what this was like for you, and anything else you'd like to say at all. I love natural conversations, I love getting to know people. If anyone is struggling, I'm an open book. You can always reach out. I don't just say that for giggles. Please don't struggle alone. If you don't want to reach out to me. If you are looking for someone else, I'll
help you find that person. I just think that's the worst thing going on in this world is that people are struggling alone or silently and wait too long to get the support that is available. And so that's what I want to do, is connect people with the support that they need, whether that's me or someone else. Sure and can they do that through Griefhab and would you like to tell them how to do so? Please? Yeah, any and
everything is on my website, which is Samantha Ruth dot com. Griefhab is a free community to anyone who's dealt with any type of a loss, or anyone who just wants to learn how to support people who have been Yeah. Well, I want to thank you. And I always predict things about my guest and sometimes i'm really wrong, but with you, I was really right. I knew you'd be awesome and you've been absolutely fabulous. So thank you for being on. And I also want to address my folks at home.
I've got some homework for all of you. This is what I want you to do. I want you to reach out to four or five of your dearest friends. I don't care, text, phone, call, email, whatever it takes, carry your pigeon, let them know that the world works because they are in it, and that your life is great because you know they're out there, and that you would really miss them if they weren't. Just do that, and let's see what that does for you in return.
So thank you all, Thank you Samantha Ruth, Thank you for having me my pleasure, and that's what we've got for this week. Ladies and gentlemen. Bye. For now, you've been listening to Simple Questions for one hundred people, part of the x Audio podcast Network. You can find every episode at xvadio dot com, slash podcasts, the Apple podcast app, Google Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, and wherever you find podcasts
