Which is another funny part. He wants your legal advice. Stop breaking the law, asshole! Which, he's telling the truth! Not just to stop breaking the that guy is an asshole! All right, sorry. I am very, very excited and proud to kick off 2024. This is episode one, the January episode. And it is called Legally Liar. We've decided to pick, for some reason, two law movies. I think that just kind of fell in our lap because we wanted to do a couple of comedies. Yeah. And then we got a recommendation on Legally Blonde from, I think, your daughters?
Chris:Yeah, one of them. I mean, I think Kaitlynn, maybe. I know Kaitlynn loves this movie. We actually watched both of these movies on Sunday with everyone over. Nice. And all the kids were over. And I had already watched them both earlier in the week because I thought we were going to record last week.
Jerome:Right.
Chris:So it was fun.
Jerome:Um, So in addition to Legally Blonde, which again was a recommendation, we thought, well, that's kind of a law film with comedy. What other law comedy can we think of? And immediately, we both agreed on Liar Liar, starring Jim Carrey. Yes. And I'm looking forward to breaking both of these down to see if they can arc. Again, the biggest thing on our show. So, when we break down script structure is the arc of the main character, and do they have tangible and spiritual goals, and, and things like that. So I want to start with Legally Blonde, if that's alright.
Chris:Yep, before we do, let's talk about our drinks. Now, I'm actually decked out, we're on audio, but I, I got my Metallica Lady Justice. shirt on you know, it was a law theme, so I had to break out my Metallica Lady Justice from Injustice for All. Let me get the ice for my drink. I am putting ice in it. It's bourbon. If it was a good scotch, we wouldn't be uh, doing ice.
Jerome:We're kicking the year off with not just our first disagreement. As we sometimes disagree on movies. We're kicking the year off with the first disagreement of the year with booze. He is drinking. Go ahead and announce it.
Chris:Yeah, I'm drinking Larceny. It's, I, I think it's a good, inexpensive bourbon. Now, my brother has a different opinion about that.
Jerome:I think it is a bad, inexpensive bourbon. Oh, God. So, I tried Larceny. But after you drink a few of those, it doesn't matter. So, I tried Larceny. And, and for the makers of larceny, please don't be insulted by the massive insult I'm about to give your bourbon. I felt, in my opinion, it has a dirt aftertaste.
Chris:It is earthy.
Jerome:It, oh, oh, it, you're drinking the earth all right. That is definitely, I mean, it is soil. Like real, when I say dirt, I don't mean like garbage. I mean dirt, like out in your front yard. Dirt, like soil. It has that sort of kick after you drink it, like an aftertaste. I finished my bottle, of course. I'm not going to waste any booze, but the entire time I was like, Man, I'm just loading up on soil here.
Chris:Well, larceny, if you want me to promote it on our podcast again, I will gladly accept a bottle if you want to send me one.
Jerome:You don't have to send me one. You can send one to my brother. Now I, on the other hand, I'm doing a little throwback. Last year, for those of you that witnessed it, we actually did our first video cast as well with our, our buddy Leigh over at Lights Camera Rant, where we did a YouTube two hour and a half video breaking down Jaws versus Jaws 4. On that show, my drink of choice was the Sharkarita. It was basically a margarita with blue curacao in it and make it blue. I have revisited that today because what are lawyers? Lawyers are sharks. Ah. So I am bringing out my sharkarita in honor of both the videocast we did last year and to kick off 2024 with a couple of shark movies that aren't really about sharks, about lawyers.
Chris:All I know is your tongue and lips are gonna be blue.
Jerome:Oh, yeah, they're going to. Yep. But I'm also backing up with my, my TALs. I have my TAL backups, my lightsabers.
Chris:Cheers.
Jerome:Cheers to 2024.
Chris:Let's jump in.
Jerome:So before we kick it off, how was your new year?
Chris:I suspect it's going to be great because it's December still here.
Jerome:Okay. But for the audience, we're supposed to be acting like this is January.
Chris:Well happy new year, Jer.
Jerome:Happy New Year to you. Mine was awesome. I hope it is now so I can live up to that. Okay. Let's start with Legally Blonde. Before I get into the specs let's talk a little bit about our relationship. I just saw this movie for the first time to prepare for this podcast.
Chris:Wow, really?
Jerome:Yeah. I don't know, it was one of those things that just sort of got by me. I was aware of it, you know, we talked before on a previous podcast about like Hugo. Hugo, I didn't even, I didn't even know it existed. Like I was just like, I don't know how I did, I missed it. It being a multi Oscar name and it Oscar nominated Scorsese film. I don't know how I missed it, but this one I was aware of. I knew that it catapulted Reese Witherspoon as a, as an A list a single lead. What I mean by single lead is, I think before this she did a few films. Where she was kind of a lead with other leads, like opposite a male lead, like in Walk the Line. But this was the first time she was asked to carry a film on her own. And it, it, it was a huge success. And it catapulted her into being a leading lady to where she can, she doesn't need a male counterpart or another lead. She was the lead of this. So I was aware of its place in the world. And its place in Reese Witherspoon's life and I knew it was successful, I just never got around to it. I don't know what it was, I never got around to it, but I'm happy to say I watched it twice for this podcast. How about you?
Chris:So I just had to look it up, we talked about Walk the Line before, this came out a few years before Walk the Line. Walk the Line was 2005, this, what was this, 2001?
Jerome:This was 2001. Now, I, I, I have to go back then and look to think of what I was thinking of. She had a couple movies before this, where she was sharing the lead role with somebody, and I can't remember what they were. Yeah. Maybe Cruel Intentions, maybe, you know? She's not really the lead, Ryan Phillippe's kind of the lead, you know? It's kind of like one of the, she had a few of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She had a few of those movies. But this was definitely her first leading lady, I'm carrying this movie by myself. Yeah. But anyway, how about you?
Chris:Well, I don't remember the first time I saw it, but I was going to ask you, did you watch it with your daughters? Because that's when I, I think that's how I was introduced to it, because my daughters all loved this movie, so.
Jerome:No, I show my daughter's jaws and die hard. An alien. I haven't gotten around to showing, just kidding, just kidding, folks. Before you all call Department of what is it Children's Services or whatever.
Chris:No, I didn't watch it, I don't think I saw it when it, First came out, you know, so I probably was probably a date night with my wife type movie. We run it or something But I've seen it a million times over the years my in 2001 I you know, my daughters were very young and probably didn't at least my oldest was yeah She was nine. So I doubt she saw it then but in a few years She would have and that's when I I've seen it many times over the years.
Jerome:Okay, I have it in my side notes here Yeah, I'll get to it When we get to the side notes, but just real quick since we were talking about it. The three films I was referencing, Fear with Mark Wahlberg, Pleasantville with Tobey Maguire, and Election with Matthew Broderick. So she was the female lead in all three of those, but those were more male dominated films, you know? She wasn't the main arc. of any of the stories. Right, right. You know what I mean? I mean, I guess you could argue she might have had an arc in fear. I don't know. I'd have to break that one down. but mostly those were other people's films. Yeah. This was her first time being tasked with this you know, this was a make or break film. If this movie tanks Reese Witherspoon's only making fears in Pleasant vs for the rest of her life. Mm. You know what I mean? So I think we have walked the line. Because of this film. At least we have Reese Witherspoon in Walk the Line because of this. But anyway, let me get to my specs here. 2001, based on the novel, the same name by Amanda Brown. Screenplay by Karen McCullough and Kristen Smith. They are a writing team who work together often. Previously, before they did this film, they did 10 Things I Hate About You with Heath Ledger. This film was directed by Robert Lukatik, I think is how you pronounce his name, Lukatik. It was his first feature film, interesting to note. He did go on to direct some notable films such as 21 and The Ugly Truth. This film was released on July 13th, 2001. It finished its box office run, get this now. We're talking about Reese Witherspoon being asked to carry a film by herself. And a comedy! Right? It finished its run with 96 million dollars at the box office. That's just domestic. That's not even worldwide. Wow. Which is about 166 million in today's numbers. And it put it at 20 se the 22nd highest grossing movie of the year. Which sounds low, like on a list. It was a good year, I guess. It was 22nd. Good year, yeah, good year for like Pixar and Disney and shit like that. And, but, But ultimately, I mean, that's a pretty good haul for a comedy being carried by somebody who hadn't carried a film on their own before.
Chris:Did you say the budget? How much they spent?
Jerome:I did not. I don't know how much it cost to make, but it couldn't have been a lot. Right. There, you know, there were no real Again, Reese wasn't an A lister yet. You know what I mean? And this movie, I think, catapulted her star stature.
Chris:Yeah, I'm trying to remember. There wasn't any big special effects like in Liar Liar with Jim Carrey on the airport.
Jerome:Well, yeah. But see, Jim Carrey himself is a special effect, so. But we'll get to that. There's some trivia on that one when we get to, when we get to Liar Liar. So, okay. Alright. This is the part where my brother usually uh, gives me the log line. Yeah, I got it right here. Let me ask. Log me.
Chris:Well, according to IMDB, Elle Woods, a fashionable sorority queen, is dumped by her boyfriend. She decides to follow him to law school. While she is there, she figured out that there is more to her than just looks.
Jerome:Okay.
Chris:That's all it tells us.
Jerome:Fair. Fair. That's fair. Okay. Alright. Are we ready? Yeah. Let's go. Alright. We have the beats. Here come the beats. Opening image. Now, this is a nice, remember we've talked about this before, where the opening and closing image should be bookends of the same story. Yeah. And it's just slightly different at the end because of the journey that happens in between. Um, Hoku's song, Perfect Day, is playing at the beginning. Yeah. While she's getting dressed, while she's getting ready. That'll be important because Perfect Day is also playing at the end. I mean closing image too. Same song! Also a perfect day, but a lot has changed so the setup intro to Elle Woods sorority super queen It's hinted that she may fall on the side of like an air headed blonde It's only hinted at that that they do a really good job of making sure the audience doesn't think she's dumb Right, but they also make sure So that the audience thinks that everybody else thinks she's dumb, right? And that's a that's a line you got a dance on. Yeah to where why does everyone think she's dumb if she's not dumb? I can only imagine it. I mean they did a good job because it'd be a difficult
Chris:line It'd be easy. Let me put it this way it'd be easy to step too too far into either side of that right and where the the audience is like Either thinks she's just dumb, she is dumb, or, so, but the way it was written and Directed was really well done, so.
Jerome:And that's clever because you can't, you won't have a story otherwise. The whole point is she's following her boyfriend to Harvard. She's not sniffing Harvard. If she's stupid, right? So, so she is intelligent. They do make a point to let people know. Particularly in the field of creativity, right? And fashion. But she is smart. But everybody perceives her to be like a dumb blonde, right? Including her boyfriend!
Chris:Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Who actually call, yeah. Calls her Jackie. We'll, or no? We'll, a Marilyn.
Jerome:We'll get a Marilyn, but we'll get there. We'll get there. All right. Yeah, that's one of my beats. Let's not, let's not jump it here, let's, let's go in order.
Chris:I always jump ahead.
Jerome:All right. All right. So theme stated at the four minute mark, A snotty snails sales woman. I almost said snails woman, a snotty saleswoman says. And this is a quote. There's nothing I like more than a dumb blonde with daddy's plastic. Mm hmm. Alright? That's the theme Elle Woods is going to run through the entire film. Yep. Everybody thinks she's just a dumb blonde with daddy's plastic. It's up to her to prove herself. Well, and I love that scene because you end that scene with her proving herself. Right, right. Well, that's the, that's the crucial part of letting the audience know that she is intelligent, right? Right, right. She puts that salesperson in her place, like, big time. And again, although this is Elle's first chance to let the audience know she's not dumb by, by setting that trap for the saleswoman it is gonna serve throughout the film you're gonna see where, where people sort of I mean it's easy to say that they misjudge her, that's, that's like an easy one, but it, it's deeper than that. She's got more to prove, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it's not just, I'm gonna prove to you I'm smart by telling you that I know the designer of this dress when you thought I didn't. It's gotta go bigger than that. And we're gonna go bigger as the stakes get raised. She's gonna prove to them she's more than a dumb blonde, or won't she? That's the pivotal question. Will she prove herself or won't she prove herself? Will she, won't she? I put here, you're gonna find there's a strong emotional shift, where one scene she's being treated like the dim witted fashionita, and other scenes she's impressing people with her knowledge. And they will go almost every other scene. Yeah. Right? And we've talked about that emotional shift. Right. That emotional tug of war uh, where it goes back and forth throughout the film as she's driven towards her spiritual goal. Now remember what her tangible goal is. This is important. What's her tangible goal? What is it that she wants
Chris:to get her boyfriend back?
Jerome:Just to get her boyfriend back? Yeah, right. Just to get her boyfriend back Warner, by the way, what a douche guy is. A great, Hey, douche with a great, a douche name. Sorry for all of you out there that are name Warner. I, it's not an attack on you. Alright, inciting incident, the Catalyst, after Warner breaks up with Al Now, here's another thing, a lot of people would say that the Catalyst is the breakup. I don't think so, because that's not driving her into Act 2, right? She's, she has well, okay. It is. This is what we call a double bump. Remember, we talked about this on Star Wars. Yeah. Where seeing the hologram of Princess Leia saying, Help me, Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope, isn't enough to drive Luke into Act 2. He's got to go home and see that Aunt Brew and Uncle Owen,
Chris:Have been turned into toast.
Jerome:Bye Boba Fett. Hot take. Um, But anyway, I bring that up every time. That's sort of like, that's what Blake Snyder would call a double bump. So it, so here's, this is also a double bump. So the breakup is the first part, right? The breakup is the first part. Warner breaks up with her and he calls her a Marilyn, not a Jackie. Ah, that was a burn. That was a stinger right there. And then, and then she find, kind of finds herself in that Bon Bons stage, right, where she's just watching soap operas and stuff. And then she go, and her friends try to cheer her up by taking her out for a spa, right? A day spa. She reads about Miss Vanderbilt. And this is the important person that she's now like, this is who I have to be in order to get Warner back. She probably would have stayed in depression state for a while.
Chris:She saw her, and she realized, oh, she's a law student. Yes. That's what she realized.
Jerome:Right. So she sees that, and she's like, that's what's gonna get him back. So it's the double bump. It's the breakup, and then that. And that forces her into her break into two. So. She succeeds in passing the LSAT, which there's a funny little segment there, right, of her trying to the video that she records of herself. Yeah. And then
Chris:In a bikini.
Jerome:She gets her video reviewed and gets into Harvard Law, and that's another funny scene, too, where all the board members are like Well, alright, welcome to Harvard, Elle Woods, you know, because you passed the exam.
Chris:Bunch of stuffy white guys in suits.
Jerome:Yeah, exactly, exactly. Judging her. Yeah, yeah. Judging her, right? Alright, so it's 19 minutes into the film, which is a little early for a break into two. Usually those come around 20 25 minutes, half hour. But, for an hour and a half comedy, 19 minutes is right in that sweet spot, right? We're used to watching two hour, two and a half hour dramas. Yeah. Or action films. And, and the break into two would come a half hour in. But we're talking about a, a comedy that's a, an hour and a half long. Right, right. gotta get there a little quicker. So 19 minutes is right in that sweet spot, as Costanza would say, right in the meaty part of the curve. Alright, so. All right, so now we're in Act 2. What is Act 2? The mirror flip of Act 1. The fun and games begins. This is stuff you see in the trailer, right? This is the premise delivery. Why we go and see the film. It's her at Harvard, right? And we're bombarded with a bunch of little things like when she first shows up. Yeah. And everybody just stops and stares. It's like the record stopping when somebody walks into a party. Yeah, they call her
Chris:barbie. What'd they call her, Malibu Barbie or something? I can't remember.
Jerome:Malibu Barbie. She's now in a new world and she's got plenty of clashes. And these are the comedic moments. Now, there's also, I put literally three scenes in a row that will establish three important characters. And they come one right after another. Two of which Could be argued as the B story. Now remember, what is the B story? The B story, the B story character is the one that's going to sort of help the lead, right? Kind of give them advice. Yeah. Give them a little bit, when we when we talk about the second film, the B story's altered a little bit in that film, cause it's more of a Story that has magic in it. Mm hmm. We call that person the Confidant the one that knows kind of knows the truth But we'll get that
Chris:and you've mentioned before quite often the B story has their own arc to the to the character. Yeah,
Jerome:absolutely And I believe they do here, too Go back and watch Die Hard if you want to if you want to, oh, oh. At the time that you're hearing this, the Die Hard episode was already released. Yes. Yes. At Christmas. It was our Christmas special. But we did talk about how you can arc supporting characters, too. To make your, your story a little bit more filled with uh, uh, a lot of meat. Okay, so here's the three characters that are introduced literally in a row in three straight scenes. First, the villain. Vivian. My daughter's name, by the way. I was a little, when I saw that, I was like, ugh. But it's spelled differently, so that's okay. The villain, Vivian, is introduced in the class that Elle gets kicked out of for being unprepared. What does she do when she gets kicked out of the class? She goes outside and immediately meets Emmett, the future love interest. We're gonna call him, B story 1. And Emmett is played by who? It's what's his name, Luke Wilson. Luke Wilson, yeah. Possible love, oh, by the way, Vivian is played by Selma Blair. Yes. Who Reese Witherspoon was in Cruel Intentions with. Mm hmm. But anyway it's possible love interest and a helper character on how to advance her business journey. Here's why she's gonna have two B Stories. Emmett represents helping her in her business life. Then at the 32 minute mark, now remember we jumped into act two at the 19 minute mark, but at the 32 minute mark, so we've had roughly, what is that? 13 minutes. Of fun and games. We've had 13 minutes of that mirror flip, right? Those trailer scenes as we might call them. At the 32 minute mark, which I even noted here as a known sweet spot for the B Story character, usually about a half hour in, we meet Paulette. Paulette is the nail salon girl who's gonna serve as B Story 2, and she will be the helper character on how to advance her inner strength.
Chris:Yeah, played by Jennifer Coolidge.
Jerome:Yes, a perfect, a great, I love her in everything she's in, man. I love, you know what, one of these days we should do Best in Show. That would be the great, I love her in that movie. I love her in everything, but, but I don't want to get off on a tangent, but Best in Show is one of the funniest movies I ever saw. Right. Alright, so so she's helper character two, right? Jennifer Coolidge plays Paulette. Now This is important to why she has two B stories. Again, one is the love interest, kind of, we don't know that yet. But he is serving as the helper for her business career. And Paulette serves as the inner, the, the, you know, her inner strength. Right. Another example of push and pull, the emotional shifts, driving Elle to her spiritual goal. They're back to back scenes. First, she's humiliated at the costume party when she's told it's a costume party, and it's not. But then she decides to take Harvard seriously. Buckledon eventually proves people wrong immediately when she helps Paulette get her dog back. So, there's, the back to back scenes is she shows up at the party, right? Wearing the bunny suit. Yeah. Humiliated.
Chris:I love that in spite of the humiliation though, she just charged forward.
Jerome:Trucks on. She doesn't go home crying, she trucks on. And in the very next scene, still, I wanna say she's still wearing the bunny suit? When she's buying all the school supplies and a new computer and everything, a new laptop? I don't remember. And Emmett, and Emmett is like behind her in line, and he's like, Hey! And then he looks at what she's wearing, and he's like, Alright, you know? So, I thought it was kind of funny, and almost symbolic of her, of her theme, and her emotional shifts, that she didn't even go home and change first. She went to go buy those school supplies in her bunny outfit. Anyway. Alright, so, midpoint scene. L impresses Professor Callahan enough to be awarded a place on his legal team for an important case he's working on. Now, why is this a false victory, right? We often say that the midpoint scene is the false victory, and that's usually, usually when you get your tangible goal, right? This is as close as she's gonna get to her tangible goal because Warner all of a sudden is impressed as hell, right? I know there's that whole part at the end, we'll get to that. But this is definitely a false victory because in the second half, we know that her involvement with the case is really gonna test her drive to her spiritual goal, and ultimately what people think of her. Mm hmm. Right? Immediately after the mids at midpoint, we always go into the, what do we call it? The bad guys closing in. With the second half of the film, things start to go to shit. Yeah. Right? It's not going to be all as cracked up to be when she's on his legal team. You could argue that Elle achieves, like I said, in at least a large part, her tangible goal of getting Warner back. He's not back, but at this point he no longer sees her as a Marilyn. She's now a Jackie, right? So all these are false victories because we know what's coming next. Now, bad guy closing in. Elle gets important info from Brooke Taylor that could directly defect the case. So that was the big news going into the second half of the film is that she knows the defendant of the girl that they're, they're gonna try. They're gonna try this case. And it's a former sorority queen herself from her sorority and she gets an important piece of info of where she was that day, her alibi, but she gave her, her sorority secrecy pledge not to ever tell. Right. Of course this sets a ripple off in the legal team, right? So now they're kind of pissed, but it does change villain Vivian's view of her. Right. So now the villain is starting to kind of change her.
Chris:Her story arc is arcing.
Jerome:Yes, she's arcing at this point. She's arcing.
Chris:Yeah, she admires her for holding her ground, yeah.
Jerome:Yes. A lot of shit is going on now, and with the case seemingly hanging by a thread, Elle uses her creative instincts to out the pool boy as gay, which would, while he's on the stand mind you, which would negate him from having an affair with the defendant, which is what the prosecution was trying to claim all along. And yeah, in a great scene there, she wins everyone over.
Chris:You bitch!
Jerome:Yeah. I put emotional shift is at an all time high, so you'd think that she'd reached her spiritual goal by being taken seriously. Until, the all is lost. Impressed with her moves, Professor Cannelahang proves to be a scumbag. Right. And makes a pass at her. Vivian of course sees this and confronts her in the elevator forcing her to want to quit. So right when she was at her high, and again that's a perfect emotional shift. You go from a high like, man I've cracked this case wide open. And now the guy that I trusted and thought was a great legal mind. And respected beyond anything. Maybe this is somebody that can help me get a job someday. Wants to bone her, right? I mean, what a letdown, right? What a huge letdown.
Chris:He was such a stand up guy on the Titanic too.
Jerome:Oh yeah, yeah. Shit, wasn't his name uh,
Chris:I don't remember his name on Titanic.
Jerome:Mr. Andrews. Mr. Andrews. Mr. Andrews. Sick how my mind works. Alright so, Dark Night of the Soul. This always comes right after All is Lost, and again, the Dark Night of the Soul could be two seconds, could be five seconds, could be five minutes. It's usually the debate. Of what is the main character going to do now, and how are they going to catapult into the third act. Elle's darkened out of the soul, she's ready to leave, she literally goes to Paulette to say goodbye, when Professor Stromwell overhears all this, and talks her out of it, talks her out of leaving, right? Stromwell's the one that kicks her out of the class in the beginning of the movie. Right. But while she's there getting her hair done or whatever, she hears this whole story and she's like, No, no, no. You can't quit now. You can't leave. You know what I mean? Like, and she gives her this big pep talk, which is interesting because this is where Paulette would come in. Hmm. Paulette's not the one that gives her the pep talk, though. Professor Stromwell is. Yeah. And I think that's important because she had to go to Paulette to see Miss, to see Professor Stromwell. If she never went to Paulette's salon to say goodbye, This never would have happened. Yeah. So Paulette still is an anchoring figure. She did go there. But I think she needed that legal advice from somebody other than Emmett, who at this point is another guy that could just possibly just be trying to get in her pants.
Chris:So it just occurred to me, Paulette has a story arc too.
Jerome:Absolutely. Almost all three of the four, if you want to include Emmett, but they don't really focus on Emmett's too much. Actually, I wouldn't say Emmett arcs very well. Yeah, so Vivian has one, yeah. All three leading women. I would say the three leading women all arc pretty well. Yes. Okay, break into three. Not only does Elle agree to stay and seek out Brooke to help them Oh, she not only agrees to stay, but she seeks out Brooke to help them with their plans. Five point finale, here we are. Are you ready? Yeah, let's go. Number one, gathering the team. Brooke fires Callahan and puts Elle in charge with Emmett backing her up. Which, by the way, when I was first watching this for the first time, I yelled out, Can't happen. She doesn't have a degree. She's not, has never passed the bar. But they quickly covered that up. They covered that. Yeah, they covered that with, oh, it's temporary and the judge can allow it.
Chris:There's a Supreme Court decision allowing it.
Jerome:And I'm on my chair and I'm all, Boo! Like, that's cheap, don't give me that bullshit. But anyway, I accepted it, it worked, I was like, okay. They had to find a way to get Elle in charge, but okay, so Elle's in charge now.
Chris:And she was being over sought by an attorney, yeah.
Jerome:Yeah, Emmett was there to back her up. Execution of the plan. Elle questions Chutney on the stand, hoping to catch her in a lie. Hightower surprised. Chutney shuts down Elle with her strategy by telling her she was in the shower, and it seems almost foolproof, right? Her badgering her on the stand has now hit a brick wall. Oh shit, what can I do about this? I can't do anything about this. Certainly the noise from the shower would block out any noise of a gunshot, and pretty much has given her an alibi. So What's the next point of the bi of the five point finale? Dig down. Deep. L has to think, how can I get outta this Now I've been hit with a brick wall and she comes up with the perm story, right, and decides to set the trap execution of the new plan. L gets chutney to confess to the murder after the perm story crashes, her shower alibi, which leads us of course, to the final. Climax. Case is dismissed as Chutney is arrested and Brooke freed, which again, I'm in my chair going, that's not how it works. Like they don't arrest the person right then and there. I don't think anyway. I don't know. I mean, if you confess to a murder on the stand, I mean, why not? It was so dramatic in a movie way though, you know, like it was so movie ending wise. But yeah, I mean, I guess so, but it was almost like, and we're gonna have one of these in the next movie too, where he's being dragged out of the courtroom, which is one of my favorite scenes of that movie. I'm Jose Quetzalco. But anyway, so we kind of have that here where Chutney's being dragged off and I'm like, what is it with these dramatic court scene endings in these comedies?
Chris:Drew Carey, Jim Carrey, I mean, he is just over the top dramatic period. End of story.
Jerome:always. Yeah. So, and, and again, there's a point to that I'm gonna make in the next movie resolution tangible and spiritual goals collide as Warner proposes to Elle, right? That's the part I said earlier about, I know that thing that happens at the end. You would think that that's when she reached her tangible goal. I actually think she reaches it at the midpoint. 'cause at that point, Warner's already respecting her and that's kind of the, the point of her journey. Yeah. But he does propose at the end. She shoots him down, of course, and goes on to graduate Harvard without him. Closing image, that song, Perfect Day, is playing again! Only this time, it's, it's she's a proven, taken seriously law grad. A complete 180 from where she was. Remember, again, the opening and closing images only work if you take the character at the end. And put them at the beginning, are they a different person? Right. Absolutely. Right? Elle at the end of this movie is 100 percent different from how she is at the beginning of the movie. So I'm gonna do a couple of note, quick notes here about the arc. This is about as clean as an arc as you can get. Right? The tangible goal is clear. Yeah. Right? What are some of the things we argue about in these podcasts is sometimes the arc is fuzzy because the goals are fuzzy. Mm. Like, we don't even know what the hell they want. Like, what is it they want? We don't even know what the hell they need. Not in this film. The tangible goal is pretty clear, to get Warner back. The spiritual goal, which she did not know she needed was to earn widespread, widespread respect from everyone and prove she's not just a dumb blonde. Right? So that's about as clean as you can get on a character arc. And it's a home run all the way through. So, some funny moments I also wanted to mention. El's dog growls at Vivian the first time she meets her. I don't know if you noticed that. The first time she meets Vivian in the hallway, the dog growls at her. But the next time they see each other While the dog has no idea that Vivian's begun her arc to starting to be a good, a good person the dog licks her. He doesn't growl anymore, he licks her. Now how the hell would the dog know that she's arcing, right? Dogs know, they have a way. They actually do, but I put a note in here, what is up with the UPS driver and his package? That dude is randy, I mean he is just thirsty for Jennifer Coolidge. Every time he comes in, he's got something to say about his package. Yeah, it's over the top and hilarious. Way over the top, way over the top. My best LOL moment, sometimes I have like my package? I have to name a part that I actually laugh out loud in. Like, this is a movie I laughed kind of throughout the film, but there's always one scene that makes me burst out, right? And it could have been because I was already having a I was already a few drinks in at this point because it's near the end. But it's when Elle's friends come into the courthouse. And they're all, how cute, they have a judge and everything, oh look, there's the jury, like, I mean, I, I don't know, she calls them jury people, look there's the jury people, but when they, she first, when they first come in and the girl goes, oh how cute, they have a judge, I fucking lost it man, I bursted out laughing. How cute they have a judge like like as if it was just something that was made up on TV until this point. Yeah All right, so a few more side notes before I turn it back over to you for your thoughts I already mentioned this before Reese Witherspoon prior to this was in movies like fear Election Pleasantville, but after this movie she carried Sweet Home, Alabama Vanity Fair her Oscar winning role in Walk the Line. Yeah, you could argue. That was a dual lead But she was the female lead and won Best Actress. And the movie Wild also came out after this movie, much, much later. But also was Oscar nominated as Best Actress for that. I even wrote here, all of which, with the possible exception of Walk the Line, she was the lead tasked with carrying the film, and all of those films I mentioned were successful at the box office. Every single one. Even Vanity Fair. Now, she's, she's had a pretty good run. Well, it has had. While it had zero Academy Award nominations, it was nominated for Best Picture, Music, or Comedy and Best Actress for Reese Witherspoon for Music or Comedy at the Golden Globes. It lost both to Moulin Rouge. And I think rightfully so. Moulin Rouge is a masterpiece. I thought that was a fantastic film. So I could see that winning all those awards. There was Oscar buzz surrounding Reese though, but in 2001 it was a tough year. Here were the four women that were up for best actress and lost. I'm going to tell you the ones that first lost. Okay. Renee Zellweger and Bridget Jones's diary. Nicole Kidman and Moulin Rouge, right off the bat, those first two are musical comedy musical or comedies. So, you know, when they say it's the Oscar race, usually only one is gonna be a musical or comedy, right? Like, the other ones, drama usually carries the show with the Oscars, right? So we're already, two nominations are being taken up with a musical or comedy movie. Reese would have to crack one of the remaining spots. Judi Dench and Iris, now we're getting into dramas and people that win. A lot of Oscars, or at least get nominated for a lot. And Sissy Spacek for In the Bedroom. Which, by the way, was my favorite movie of that year. So, remember what we was talking about? I always have that one favorite that I love more than everything else? Yep. In the Bedroom is my favorite movie of 2001. I think it's the best movie of 2001. Something we may have to pick apart sometime. Alright, who they lost to. Who did those four actresses that I just named lost to? Halle Berry and Monsters Ball. Hm. Monster powerful performance. So no pun intended by throwing monster in there. But so as you can see, tough year, right? Very tough year. Judi Dench gets nominated no matter what she does. She could take a dump and they would nominate her for best excretion. So, so uh, so that was a, that's a tough year for Reese to get in. But as you, as you well know already, and I already mentioned it, she ends up winning best actress for walk the line. She was nominated again for wild. You, you could say that Reese Witherspoon's had one of the better a list careers for an actress.
Chris:She started a book club. So there you go.
Jerome:There you go, and I would argue that a lot of it comes back to this movie now You never want to say well without this movie We don't have any of that because she's obviously talented enough She she would have made those things happen, but this is definitely a spring who is definitely a stepping stone I mean you take her career and look at it none of it would have happened without Reese Witherspoon. Right? You know? Of course. So, give, she deserves all the credit, man. Yes, absolutely. So. So what are your thoughts? I only have a couple. Fun movie to watch. I mean, just pure enjoyment. So I didn't really spend a lot of time analyzing, I just enjoyed it. One of my daughters pointed out, I don't remember who said it, like I said, we had a house full of people over, but it was, they just had an observation of, wow, it's the ultimate white privilege where she just assumes she's gonna get into Harvard. Absolutely.
Chris:Like, why wouldn't I? I've been, I've been given everything my whole life.
Jerome:She does.
Chris:I know, she does, yeah. She does. It's just a funny observation, but.
Jerome:Yeah, yeah. It is totally a white privilege movie. There's only one scene that other people love. Because I saw it online. I wanted to go check out, like, see what the buzz is about this. And I saw a lot of feedback, everybody loves this scene, and I just, it just didn't work for me. It was the bend and snap scene, or was it called, is that what it was? Yeah, she breaks his nose. Where she, well no, but, no, no, no, no, that's the funny part. Oh, the dance scene, where they teach her how to, it was the dance scene where she teaches all of them how to do that. I didn't get it, it went right over my head. I'm like, I don't even know what that means.
Chris:Yeah, to me it was, bend and snap. It was kind of a filler scene, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just they needed to, yeah. We have those, you know.
Jerome:Worst scene in the movie Stepmom with Julia Roberts.
Chris:It was fun though. It was a fun scene to watch.
Jerome:Okay, so worst scene of stepmom, which is the Julia Roberts Susan Sarandon movie. Yeah is the musical interlude where they all start singing You know mountain high enough or whatever below and they're all dancing around the bed like I don't need that
Chris:It's kind of weird though, because that's not really a comedy That movie wasn't really a comedy.
Jerome:Which one, Stepmom?
Chris:Yeah. So it's kind of weird to throw a musical scene in the middle of it.
Jerome:Yeah, and I think it started off as supposed to be comedic, like the clash of the stepmom is a complete polar opposite of the real mom. But you're right, it turns into a drama pretty quick. Yeah, yeah. And, and,
Chris:When someone's dying of cancer,
Jerome:I mean But you know I want to say in the, in the late 90s, early 2000s, movies did that shit a lot. They do that in Remember the Titans, where they just have a musical scene where all the players start singing. Like, I don't need that shit. That ain't forwarding the story at all. Now, remember the Titans, you could argue, well, that was how they built unity. Eh, you know, when they got into a fight at camp and all came together after that, that was the unity. I don't need a song, you know? So, so scenes like that just drive me nuts. So when I see this bend and snap scene or whatever it was,
Chris:I still think, I mean, for a, Fun, funny, comedy, I mean it worked. Now, don't get me wrong, the payoff was great. When she tries it, on package, man, Busts his nose open.
Jerome:Breaks his nose. I, when that happened, I remember thinking, Okay, A, now, now I kind of see where the payoff is. But two, that totally would have been me. That would have been something I would do. Where I try to do something cute and impressive and I fucking break someone's nose. Um So yeah, all right, anything else?
Chris:No, let's get down to Liar Liar.
Jerome:All right, moving right along.
Chris:First thing, I better refill my drink here.
Jerome:I actually, because I've been doing a lot of talking, see, you, that's where I need you, that's where I need you to pick up on more shit so I can drink more. All right, Liar Liar. All right, here's the specs. 1997. Written by Paul Gouet and Stephen Mazur. They're also writing partners, interestingly enough. It's funny you'll find that, right? Writing partners in comedies. And why do you find that a lot? We just saw it in the previous film, we're gonna see it in this one. And of course, one of the famous writing partnerships of all time when it comes to comedies is Lowell Gantz and Babalu Mandel, who wrote a lot of Ron Howard movies. Right parenthood, you know what I mean, like those guys wrote, I, I want to say they were in on some of those early Michael Keaton movies too. I'll pause for effect.
Chris:By the microphone.
Jerome:Yeah. So why do you, why is it common to see writing partners? In a comedy. The Farrelly Brothers, another perfect example. To some extent, the Coen Brothers, even though their films are dark comedy. Why does it usually take a writing team to write really good comedies? Because writing comedy is one of the hardest things anybody can do. Because, just because you think it's funny doesn't mean anybody else will, either. So having a writing partner that you can help bounce ideas off of Yeah. Makes it a lot easier. So this was also a writing partnership. They previously did Little Rascals in 1994, and later went on to do Heartbreakers in 2001.
Chris:Do you know any trivia surrounding, like, how much of their writing was just Replaced with Jim Carrey's improv.
Jerome:We're gonna get to that.
Chris:Cause holy crap, man. I mean, even in the outtakes you can tell there was a lot of improv that didn't even make it.
Jerome:Every Jim Carrey movie. But we'll get to that.
Chris:It's just gold. It's pure gold.
Jerome:It's directed by Tom Shadyac. Whose other credits include Ace Ventura, Pet Detective, in 94, then Nutty Professor, 96, and Patch Adams in 98. These, among others, he's done other stuff, but I picked these three out specifically. Let's assume we put Liar Liar to the side for a moment. Ace Ventura, Jim Carrey. Nutty Professor, Eddie Murphy, Patch Adams, Robin Williams. What are the similarities between those three people?
Chris:Say it again? I was, I was looking at IMDB, sorry.
Jerome:Okay, so putting the liar liar aside. Not listening to you. I'm gonna kick you out of class like Elle Woods. Ace Ventura, Jim Carrey, Nutty Professor, Eddie Murphy, and Patch Adams, Robin Williams. What are those three? Those three actors have in common? I don't know. Well, what would you characterize them as?
Chris:Well, they're all stand up comedians.
Jerome:They're all comedians, but they're all very exhibitionist. Very showman like comedians, right? Like, everything's physical comedy with those three, right? Yeah. So why do you think Tom Shadyac keeps getting hired to do these kinds of movies? Well, he's good at it. Because he's got that reputation, right? These guys all talk to each other. Yeah. You know that Jim Carrey, he did Ace Ventura with him. And you know he was like, oh, I want this guy for Liar Liar. Yeah. And then, you know that Eddie Murphy called him up. Hey, how's this guy? Get him. Get him. He lets you do whatever the fuck you want, right? Like, he has great control of the set, but at the same time, he lets you off your leash. Robin Williams, another one. You know, Tom Shadyax probably just loves just setting the camera up and saying, Alright, Robin, do your thing. You know what I mean? Like, just go. I'm not even gonna yell action. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna put it on and you just do your thing. Um, So you know, there's a reason why these guys keep getting the same jobs, right? Cause word of mouth in Hollywood. If Eddie Murphy wants to produce a 100 million dollar comedy that he's gonna star in, you bet your ass he's gonna want a director that's gonna let him do his thing. Right. Alright, so it was released March 18th, 1997. March, mind you. Okay, this wasn't a summer blockbuster, and this wasn't an Oscar, Hollywood sorry, Oscar winner movie. This was March 18th.
Chris:It was a St. Patrick's Day movie.
Jerome:Yeah, it was the day after St. Patrick's Day. Had the number one opening weekend. In fact, it broke the record for the largest March opening weekend ever.
Chris:Oh, I bet.
Jerome:And it held that record for five years. I know you're going to ask me who broke it.
Chris:Yeah, who broke it?
Jerome:Um, I want to say I think it was Ice Age.
Chris:Really? Well, a kid's movie I could see that.
Jerome:It went on to make 181 million domestically, which is about 347 million in today's dollars, and it finished as the number three highest grossing film of 97 behind only Men in Black 1 and Jurassic Park 2.
Chris:Wow.
Jerome:So, you know, uh
Chris:Not bad.
Jerome:That's pretty damn good, actually, if you think about it.
Chris:Not too shabby.
Jerome:A side note, a side note This is a little fun one. I really should save this for the trivia, but I'll do it now since we talked about it. March 18th, right? Friday night. Sunday night, two days later on March 20th was the Oscars. Actually, it might have been Mon back then I think it was still on Monday night. They moved it to Sunday, maybe about ten years ago. Maybe more than that. But I think then it was Monday night, right? So let's just say March 21st. Monday night. Oscars. Jim Carrey's a presenter. They present him and they say You know, here to present the award for whatever it was, you know And star of Liar Liar, which opened to the number one, you know, March opening ever or whatever, Jim Carrey, and he comes out, and everyone's clapping and everything, And the first thing he says is, How was your weekend? Mine was good! And everybody is tearing up! They even have a shot of Kurt Russell who's rolling in his seat. So No kidding. Everyone, cause everyone knew, like, dude, that, that's, that's gonna be one of the biggest movies of the year. Oh yeah. On just the first weekend. Oh yeah. It had that, it had that impact. So, anyway. Mine was good. Mine was good. Probably still, yeah. It's good. So anyway, alright. Sir, you're up. Logline. Logline. Logline.
Chris:Go ahead and take a sip while I'm reading. Okay, according to IMDb, a pathological liar, yeah, I almost said lawyer, but no, it does say like a pathological liar lawyer finds his career turned upside down when he inexplicably cannot physically lie for 24 whole hours. I love how it says physically lie. This was a very. Physical performance.
Jerome:Very, very. And he even says, he states several times in the film, I can't even ask a question if I know the answer is going to be dishonest. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's more than just I can't tell a lie. And we're going to get into this in the February episode. Yeah. I have some problems with movies that have magic. They set the rules. And sometimes those rules are broken. This film does a really good job of not breaking the rules. It sets the rules and sticks by them. Yeah. But anyway, alright Okay, here we go. We have The Beats. The Beats. Opening image. Classroom. Son has a dishonest dad. You'll be ready for the closing image.
Chris:That was a great, the first, that was the opening scene, right?
Jerome:By the way, the opening scene is priceless. Yeah. It's great. The teacher's, it's, it's, what does your dad do for a living? He's a liar. And he's like, he's a liar. And she's like, no, I'm sure you don't mean that. He says, well, he goes to the court and argues with the judge. She goes, oh, he's a lawyer. And the look on the kid's face when he shrugs is kind of like, what's the fucking difference? What's the difference? Yeah. It's great. It's one of the best opening shots, opening images of a comedy movie. It totally sets it up.
Chris:Totally tees it up.
Jerome:Theme stated! At the six minute mark, after Mom Audrey tells Fletcher, that's Jim Carrey, Audrey is played by uh, Oh, what's her name? You got IMDB there. Mora, Mora Tierney? Mora Tierney.
Chris:From uh, what, ER, right?
Jerome:ER, and well, among other things. She's been in a ton of stuff.
Chris:She's been in a ton of stuff, but I mean, I was first introduced to her through ER, I think.
Jerome:Yeah, yep, yep. After Mom Audrey tells Fletcher, played by Jim Carrey, that her boyfriend Jerry, who's played by Carrey Carrey Elwes, Carrey Elwes? Carrey Elwes? I always mispronounce his name. Elwes? From Princess Bride fame. Yes. Tells that her boyfriend Jerry will be moving to Boston. She says, referring to her son Max, Max will miss him. And to that, Fletcher's almost a little disheveled, and he says, I'll be here. And she gives him a look. Right? Like, kinda like, Will you? You know what I mean? Like, she says all that with her eyes, and then she just walks away. And he's a little miffed. He's like, come on Max, it's time to go. Like, that's gonna be his theme. Yeah. Is he really gonna be there for Max? Right. Right? And the emotional shifts of that attempt proved to be way comical as the movie goes on because he does really want to be with his son. Yeah. That can't be denied. But his pathological lying is what gets in the way of that. Okay, so, B story. Now, again, this one, kinda fuzzy, although the B story normally comes in a half hour in, but we're introduced to Greta very early. I named Greta, his secretary, as the confidant. Remember, in, in In stories that have magic, there's a confidant. Somebody that ends up knowing what's going on and can try to help them. Right. To achieve their spiritual goal. I believe that is the Secretary Greta. Now, she's introduced relatively early. But I believe that she is the B Story, the confidant.
Chris:She's normally covering his ass.
Jerome:Right. Inciting incident. WrestleMania are dashed when Fletcher gets a big case dumped on him. This scene starts with a barrage of four lies. This is important. Four lies, one, the office receptionist June, by the way, Sherry Oteri in her first role in a movie. That was her first role? Sherry Oteri from SNL, that's her first movie. Wow, okay. This was following two years of SNL, so she started in SNL in what, 95, and this was her first movie role. So the office receptionist June with her weird hair, two, the overweight guy. Three. The guy, he doesn't know his name, and four, the guy with the zit on his nose, So there's our four.
Chris:It's more like a boil
Jerome:He's like, I've had so much, I'm ready to pop He's like, so yeah. And then what's best is after he walks away, Jim Carey does that. He is, yeah. Is a shutter. He shutters. Yeah. So four straight lies going into the inciting incident. Right. Okay. The debate begins. Fletcher, not realizing that his behavior is about to cause a major problem, continues his lying ways to win over new client Samantha Cole. Which means if he if he debated at all about what happened the night before, he chose not to change his ways, right? Again, we have a double bump. It's not just that he got the case dumped on him and he disappointed his son. Right? That wasn't enough, because the next morning, he acts like everything's fine. He has the gift that Greta bought for him, by the way. He forgot his own son's fucking birthday. Greta has to buy the gift. You know, he gives the gift, and he thinks everything's back to normal again. Right? He's got the case with Samantha Cole, and everything's wonderful. And he goes to drop off his son with the mom. Which by the way has another funny scene where Jerry is all oh the mitt the baseball mitt. Oh, that's really cool We'll wrap it. We'll put it. We'll rub it with oil. We'll rub it in a rubber band. He goes great gift dad and Jim Carrey goes Thanks, son Jerry is such a, oh man, I don't even know.
Chris:He's a magoo.
Jerome:He's a magoo, right. He even says that literally, a magoo. Anyway So, so, that's not enough. We need a double bump. Here comes the double bump. As the inciting incident wasn't enough, we have a double bump when Fletcher misses Max's birthday party. This is the last straw for Max, who makes a birthday wish that for just one day, Fletcher cannot tell a lie. Yep. So now we're in act two. We break into two almost immediately. Okay, now, I have a little I love his first truth. Wait, wait, I have a treat for you. I have a treat for you. In my beats breakdown, several times, let me see how many times. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight times! Eight times I wrote in green bold, shift. And that is to signify when being forced to tell the truth. Yeah. Was actually a good thing. Okay, are you ready?
Chris:Yeah, go for it. Alright. I can't wait.
Jerome:Break into two. I've had better. His first, his first truth, comes at the worst possible time.
Chris:What'd she say, was it good for you?
Jerome:Yeah.
Chris:I've had better.
Jerome:I've had better.
Chris:I love that sequence after that too, because he wakes up the next morning, I've had better.
Jerome:Yeah, but then when he's brushing his teeth, he's laughing. He's laughing, I've had better. I've had better, like, what the fuck? And then when he's standing outside the elevator, he laughs at him again! So anyway, Yeah,
Chris:that one kept giving, man.
Jerome:So before you say, well wait a minute, every one of his forcing to tell the truth is a good thing, it's not necessarily, because he gets into the elevator with the girl with the big boobs, that doesn't turn out very well for him when he has to tell the truth.
Chris:It made for a good outtake though, at the end of the movie.
Jerome:We're jumping ahead here. So I've had better. The wish which immediately comes true catapults Fletcher into Act 2. We're now in the upside down mirror flip version of Act 1 where he's unable to tell a lie. Oh, he was able to tell a lie whenever he needed. Now he has to tell the truth. Fun and games. These are your trailer scenes, right? Premise delivery. Why we go to see the movie. Yep. Trailer scenes and the promise of the premise taking act two out for a spin He tells the truth to a girl about the big boobs in the elevator a bum who wants his money And we revisit the four lies from just a day earlier.
Chris:Yes, right immediate payoff,
Jerome:right He tells the truth to Sherry O'Terry. Whatever it takes to focus off your head! Overweight man! Uh, What's he say? What's up, Fletcher? Just your cholesterol, fatty! The guy, he doesn't know his name. You're not important enough for me to remember! And then of course, Zitman. Now, these are all shifts. I actually put, so actually it's more than eight. If you, it's eight plus three more. Here's why I put these as possible green shifts. Although the truth hurts and he's mean to all four of these people, it's better to let people know where you stand with them, right? In a way, the fat guy needed to hear that. You know, maybe he goes home and gets on a treadmill. Who knows? Sure, it's a brutal way to tell somebody they're overweight. He doesn't, it's not like he doesn't know. But maybe he's like, oh shit, if all my co workers think that way, maybe I should do something about it, right? Sherry Oteri, maybe she fixes her hair after that, who knows, I don't know. You know, I put those as positive shifts because I think it's important not to lie to people. You know, the common one that you get a lot is the guy that you don't know his name. How many times have you bumped into the same person over and over and over?
Chris:Hey, man.
Jerome:They told you their name four years ago. But fuck, man, you don't remember it and you can't ask now. Now you can't ask. Right. Right? So it's like, how many times have we been through that, you know? Yeah. When if you just, I mean, I had one of those, I know we go off on tangents. I'm trying to keep this down to a minimum amount of time. But. My girls are still in school. Yeah. Vivi and Val. And a lot of times I see their parents. And I meet their parents, and I see them over and over again.
Chris:Well, you're their parents, you mean the school parents.
Jerome:I mean, I mean the kids, yeah, the kids that are in their class.
Chris:Yeah, I know what you meant.
Jerome:Right? Okay, thank you. I skipped a step. This shark a rita is really kicking in. Um, So The other kids parents, I meet them all the time. We go to pick them up at the same time, right? Some of them shop in my store, and I'll see them. And it's so much like that! Hey, you And then, one girl, I actually had to ask, no, I had to ask her, one of them, because Valerie and this girl had become really good friends, and they want playdates and shit. So this girl comes into my store a lot because she works right by my store. So I just had to ask her, I said, I had to say, I go, What is your name, by the way? I don't think I've ever heard it. She said, Oh, it's Bree, and I was like, Okay, I'm Jerome. So I nailed that one quick, because I knew I saw it. I saw, I foresaw what was gonna happen. That I would know this person for three years and never know her fucking name. So, so, So again, I, that's why I wrote them all as green shifts because it is important to get the truth out.
Chris:But yeah, Jim carrey's response, you're not important enough to remember.
Jerome:Right? Yeah, okay. So maybe I never would have I just said that to somebody, a parent, right? A kid's parent, from my kid's classroom. Um, alright, so, now, oh wait, by the way, after he gives all four of those truths, Greta, Greta says Fletcher, and he goes, God's sakes, don't ask! Don't ask for, God's sakes, don't ask, and he goes into his office.
Chris:What a great premise for a movie, man.
Jerome:Oh, dude! And it nails it. So, we also have Fletcher's first day in court representing Mrs. Cole. Intro to The Judge, right? Played by uh, Justin Bernard. And we have the famous test of willpower with the blue pen, that's, that's after that test. He also tells a cop that pulls him over about the parking tickets, I put that as a green shift. Gotta get that off your back, man, that's something that's been sitting with him, right?
Chris:After he's dealt with it, he's free.
Jerome:Right, right. It's a freeing experience. So that's one that you would lie about, but it, telling the truth is helpful. Okay? Audrey helps him get his car out of hock. He tells the he tells off the parking garage guy, which is pretty funny. Because he's like, you scratched my car! And the guy's like, that was there. And he's all, you liar! It's like him calling somebody else a liar. Like, how great is that, right?
Chris:I love his explanation for what he's gonna do about it.
Jerome:Yeah, what are you gonna do about it? He's all, nothing! Because I'll just go to the small claims court, you'll just stick me in the end anyway, and blah blah blah blah.
Chris:Yeah, take it up the tailpipe!
Jerome:Yeah, take it up the tailpipe! And the guy goes, you've been here before, haven't you? Right. So many great lines. I feel this is unfair to Legally Blonde. We didn't laugh this much while we talked about Legally Blonde. But when you're dealing with a Jim Carrey movie, man
Chris:I'll put my cards on the table right now. It's a funnier movie. I think it's a funnier movie.
Jerome:Which one?
Chris:Liar, liar.
Jerome:Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
Chris:But, I mean, I don't want to take away from, I mean, I think Legally Blonde is a great movie, but this is a funnier movie.
Jerome:But, I mean, again, and again, we're only at, we're only approaching the midpoint scene, but remember what I talked about, Legally Blonde was the 22nd. Highest grossing film domestically of that year. Yeah, this was number three. Yeah, like there's a reason right Jim Carrey Yeah, well, it's just on a different level and the movie is just a ten times funnier
Chris:Well, that's what I mean because jim Carrey's leading and probably writing half the stuff in it in the final product Yeah, I mean crap.
Jerome:Yeah Okay, so we get to the midpoint scene. I actually wrote this quote as the midpoint scene. I'm a bad father Hmm So, why is that a shift? Because he stops, right? Right after he says that, he realizes
Chris:I'm a bad father.
Jerome:I'm a bad father. Yeah, like he realizes he just told the truth, right? Right.
Chris:So yeah, it was powerful. It was good
Jerome:Now there's a two scene false victory here Fletcher finally finds out what the curse is and he finds out it's his son's birthday wish Right, right. So that's your that's sort of a tangible goal, right? Because the beginning
Chris:yeah figure out how to fix this, right?
Jerome:Well, yeah. Well, the first thing is why is this happening, right? Like his tangible goal would be What the hell is happening and how do I fix it? At that point he achieves that. Oh my god, my son made a birthday wish. Well, I'll just have to fix that, right? So he feels it's a victory because now he knows what it is and how it can be stopped. But the twin scene is where he goes to Max's school and tries to get him to un wish it. Which is what Blake Snyder would call a wrong way goal. So you get this a lot in these movies with magic, right? Again, I don't want to tease too much about the February episode, but I just watched that movie and I was thinking about wrong way goals the entire time. But anyway it's the wrong way to try to fix a problem. That's what the wrong way goal is. He tries to get his son to unwish it. And he won't. And not only does he Oh, by the way, it's immediate. Bad guy's closing in right after the midpoint scene. Right. Because the Unwish fails miserably and immediately because not only does he get slapped by a what I'm assuming is a teacher on the playground. He, he says, let me try this out. And he goes up and says something, obviously he says something very derogatory. Yeah. Just slaps him.
Chris:It was either a teacher or probably like a mom that was volunteering or something.
Jerome:Yeah, like a volunteer mom or something. But he's slapped even harder by Max when Max tells him you're the only one that makes me feel bad. Right? Like that's the same as the I'm a bad father moment, right? And the moment at the beginning when Audrey says Max don't miss him and he says I'll be here. Like these are moments where he's realizing like, fuck I'm really letting my son down. Yeah. You know? So that's bad guys closing in. We have a few more to add. Things continue to spiral badly. We get back to the office and he confides in confidant Greta his secret. She tests him on his lies and he tells her the truth so she quits, right? Another great segment. Now, I know you're thinking, how can she be the confidant if she quits? Well, you know where it's going to end up, right? So, she quits and then there's the boardroom scene where Miranda tries to ambush him and he uses it to his advantage. Green shift, right? Telling the truth is a good thing.
Chris:Makes Mr. Allen laugh, instead of getting fired.
Jerome:Right, instead of getting fired, he's tearing up the room. One of my favorite moments of that entire scene, by the way. And by the way, I laugh out loud in that scene. Every fucking time I watch it, without fail. It doesn't matter how many times I've seen it, I laugh out loud every time. And one of the best parts is where there's a moment of silence, like they don't know how the boss is gonna take it. Right. And the boss starts laughing, and the first thing the boss says when he laughs is, Do Simmons. And he looks at Simmons and he goes, Simmons is old. It's like, like, that's his first insult. That's his first insult. Simmons is old. He should have been out of the game years ago, but he doesn't want to stay at home because he can't stand his wife. And then he goes around the room, and here's another dream truth.
Chris:And then the climax of that scene is when he points at the woman that brought him in there.
Jerome:And says, Slut! Right. Exactly. He's telling the truth. Isn't that ironic? He's telling the truth. He points to her and says slut. It's not just an insult folks. He's telling the truth all right, so courtroom scene he needs a continuance, but he can't get one He tells the truth about needing to use the bathroom, right? And that's, that's a green shift, because it helps him get a continuance, at least a little bit of one. He gets to go to the bathroom, because he tells the judge, right, I hear holding your urine can help cause disease cancer or something. And the guy's like, is that true? Well, in that case, we better cause it.
Chris:It was, what got his attention was, was something about affecting, like, sexual performance or something. He's like, well, I better take a break then.
Jerome:Yeah, let's take a break then. Right, so, so, the green shift, it worked. Telling the truth worked. But, it causes the
Chris:Is it true? It must be.
Jerome:It causes his bath Right, that's another great one. Is that true? It must be! Right, so, but that directly causes his bathroom beat up scene, which is another wrong way goal. It's, it's, it's the wrong way to try to solve your problem.
Chris:What the hell are you doing?
Jerome:I'm kicking my ass! All right. More bad guys closing in as he truthfully tells the judge that he can go on despite his bathroom injuries. And he meets Mr. Falk on the front steps and realizes he can't even ask dishonest questions. Perhaps the biggest example of the green shift is where, when we're telling the truth is helpful. He wins Samantha's case by uh, getting her to admit that she lied. Which is ironic, by the way. Lied on her driver's license in order to get married, thus nullifying the prenup and awarding her the money. Right? That's all the bad guys closing in. I know it seems like a victory at the end, but it's really not, because immediately after that is the all is lost.
Chris:Right, he realizes how
Jerome:Right after winning the case.
Chris:Doomed he is, yeah.
Jerome:Yeah, he hits rock bottom when Mrs. Cole now wants full custody. He even said, But you said he was a good father.
Chris:Actually, I would argue he hit rock bottom. When his boss shook his hand.
Jerome:Oh wait, we're not there yet. This is all the same scene. Yeah, it's all the same scene. But, but, but, what's important is she goes, he says, you said he was a good father. Right? About the Mr. Cole. And she goes, who cares, I'm gonna hit him where it hurts. If we get full custody, I get an extra, what was it, $4, 000, $10, 000 a month in pay. And he goes, you just won $11, 000, 000! Right. But anyway. Yep. Okay, so in that same scene, yes. He realizes that the lust for winning the case tore kids from their father. Yeah. A good father, right? Which he is not. Actually, I actually have what you're talking about, the handshake. I put that as the dark night of the soul. It's the debate part. Yeah. Because he realizes he fucked up, he's at rock bottom. Right? But now there's that debate. What do I do next? And this is what helps him push him over the edge. Fletcher is appalled at his boss belief that kids, quote unquote, give you leverage. Right. In a divorce case. He shuns his handshake and openly admits he did the wrong thing, which likely will cost him his partnership, if not his job. Here comes a green shift. He proceeds to tell off the judge. Now. Why is that a green shift? Well, actually, no, I'm sorry, the green shift is telling off the boss. Yeah. Right? Yeah, yeah. Because he doesn't want to work for him anyway, not if he's gonna be like that, right? Right. But then he tells off the judge in addition, and that's your break into three, right? By telling off the judge, he lands himself in contempt in effect, he won't be able to see Max before he leaves, thus making him a liar again. And as they're hauling him off to jail, he's yelling, I'm Jose Canseco! I'm Jose Canseco! All right, we're in act three. Five point finale. Are you ready? I'm ready. Here we go. Gathering the team, A and B stories collide as Greta hears about his honesty and bails him out of jail. The confident comes through. And what does Jim Carrey say standing on the steps? You know, this truth telling stuff's pretty cool. Yeah, right? Right? There you go. Alright, execution of the plan. Fletcher goes to the airport to stop them from leaving. High tower surprise. The flight is already closed up and the plane is heading out. He missed them. Dig down deep. He's gotta find a way to stop the plane. So, he gets on the runway, and takes the runway stairs, and he's driving it out to the runway. In the most ridiculous, funniest way possible. Most ridiculous, nonsensical thing, and those stairs, mind you, are as Fast as the plane is going. I thought it was kind of funny that the guy's fixing the stairs as he takes off. Yeah. Like what was he installing A new fucking engine? Because that thing is taken off and it's going leg with leg to leg with the fucking airplane. I like how Jim Carrey is like, you did a great job. Yeah, did a great job. Execution of the new plan. After hijacking the stairs, he runs down the plane and gets him to stop by throwing his shoe at the at. He stopped, the plane stops, he stops, he crashes. And of course, it leads us to the climax, while laying there with two broken legs.
Chris:Didn't he say the good news is I broke two legs, they can't take me to jail.
Jerome:I broke both my legs, they can't take me to jail. So while laying there with broken legs, he's truthful to Max about letting him know that he has learned his lesson, right? He learned to tell the truth. By the way, this is a little little trivia too as well. Jim Carrey played a character called Fire Marshal Bill when he was on the sketch comedy show In Living Color. Yeah. He's in that scene. I don't know if you know that. When the little boy Says to his or when the, the mom and Jerry show up with the little boy and she says, that's my husband, that's my husband, you know, cause the cops trying to hold him back. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you can't come in here yet. And she's like, that's my husband. In the background is Jim Carrey dressed as Fire Marshal Bill on his radio. On his radio. I missed that. I gotta go look it up. Just YouTube it, it's hilarious. Oh my god, that's great. But anyway, so he makes an appearance in the background of that scene.
Chris:I'll have to put the link to that YouTube in the show notes.
Jerome:Now, he sees that he's past the 24 hours. Of, of the truth telling window. But that's important because he wanted to be honest. He wanted to show that he was telling the truth. He achieves his spiritual goal. Resolution. Audrey and Jerry split, and Audrey and Max are not gonna go to Boston. The closing image. A year later, and after a birthday candle kissed between the parents, Max is happy. He now has an honest father.
Chris:And, assumably, a reunited family.
Jerome:Oh yeah, I think it eludes the fact that they're getting back together. Yeah. Now, couple of funny parts.
Chris:Couple?
Jerome:In addition to all the funny shit we said, there are little things that I thought were funny like, Like when he says, at the beginning, when Jim Carrey says, Oh, I didn't think after our marriage you'd have enough energy to give it another go. And she goes, well you forget, when we were married I wasn't having sex nearly as much as you were.
Chris:Yeah, burn!
Jerome:And he's all, ouch! The ref takes a point away! That was a good line. But yeah, I mean there's so many, so many throughout the film. When Greta's telling him off and tells the story about By the way, that's trivia as well, I think. I think the producers got that story. That really happened. Oh, about the lawyer? A burglar falls through somebody's skylight or something and cuts themselves and they sued the person and won. And she goes he won 7, 000. Now is that fair? And he goes, no. I would've gotten them ten! Right. So, a lot of great lines in this movie. Um, Alright, trivia. You ready? At the beginning, he runs into two people on the front stairs. The first one is Christopher Darden, famous from the OJ trial. And Darden says how'd it go in there, Fletcher? And he says, just another victory for the wrongfully accused. Right. And Darton says, yeah, right. Okay? We all know what that is, eh? Jeez. The other person he sees on the stairs is an actor named Randall Tex Cobb, who he's the guy that says, hey, you want your coat back? Or you want your jacket back? And he says, no, you'll probably need it. Here's a couple of things here. There's a deleted scene in the beginning of the movie where he gets that guy off. Like, there's a court scene where he actually gets him off. Okay. He's the actor that is in the beginning of Ace Ventura. Oh, really? That he delivers the broken package to at the very beginning. Right? And he's trying to kidnap the dog. And then when he's trying to get away and the guy comes after him with the bat. That's the same actor. Okay. But anyway, what's even more funny about that is it, this is still a funny part. But it holds more weight if they had kept that deleted scene in. He's the guy on the phone, where later in the movie, Jim Carrey goes, Stop breaking the law, asshole! That's the guy! Oh, yeah. Because he's in trouble again. Okay. Just as he said he would be. Yeah. Which is another funny part. He wants your legal advice. Stop breaking the law, asshole! Which, he's telling the truth! Not just to stop breaking the law, but truth! Yes. He's telling the truth that that guy is an asshole! Alright, sorry. That's great. Okay, couple other interesting trivia. Jim Carrey turned down the role of Dr. Evil in Austin Powers in order to do this film. Coincidentally, Mike Myers Mike Myers was offered Liar Liar and turned it down in order to make Austin Powers.
Chris:What? Yes. Wow. Could you imagine the flip on that? Yeah. I can't.
Jerome:Yeah, that's crazy.
Chris:It would have been two completely different movies. Yeah. Because they would have both put their own Spins and, you know, their own improv, probably, right?
Jerome:And the fact that Mike Myers ended up playing Dr. Evil himself, right? When he couldn't get Jim Carrey. That's amazing. Yeah, that's, that's interesting. So so the film is dedicated to Jason Bernard, who played the judge, who sadly died of a heart attack shortly after the film was done shooting. Bernard got his big break. You would know this. I know you've known that judge, right? You've seen him before. Yeah, what was he in? He got his big break in a recurring show. A recurring television miniseries, V, back in the 80s.
Chris:Oh yeah! Oh my god, I love that show.
Jerome:He also famously played Sandra Bullock's boss in While You Were Sleeping. Okay, yep. Okay. That's all I got. What are your thoughts?
Chris:I mean, come on. Where do I start? I love this movie. I'm, you know. So, one of the characters that I remember, like so many of these characters I remember from other things, you know, obviously we talked about Jerry, you know, and Princess Bride, but Dana Appleton, who is the attorney at the end of the movie the opposing attorney she, her name is swoozie Kurtz.
Jerome:Swoozie Kurtz. She, she's, she's known, man. She's done a lot of shit.
Chris:Well, it's funny cause I recognized her from one episode of Lost. Really? Yeah, she was in one episode of Lost. She played uh, John Locke's mom in Lost and it was like a flashback scene and, but it was a great, it, I think her character and, and like John Locke's story arc hinged so much on who she was and, and and that, that how that whole, how his life played out. But I just remembered her and it was, you know, it was a great, yeah. Performance she she gave in lost but but yeah, you're right. She's been in a ton of stuff. So yeah, it was just a great cast, man
Jerome:I remember her. I want to say the first time I saw her and again, she'd been around forever But i'm I was young at the time, you know what I mean? So we're talking I want to say 1993 I Had I was 18 years old and there was an hbo movie called and the band played on which was about how kind of aids Spread? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It was based on a book by Randy Schiltz, I think I saw that. It loaded with stars. Yeah. She was one of the people. She has a huge, she has a huge impact. I wouldn't say she has a huge role. She's in one scene. Right. But like you said, like with Lost, it's an impactful scene.
Chris:Well, and, and Lost came out several years after this, so I just, re watching it, I remembered she was in Lost, you know, so.
Jerome:And she, and, and that's one of those, she, in her scene in that movie, She has the line that they would show in trailers for that movie, because it's so impactful. She's one that received AIDS in a blood transfusion. That's her character. Oh, wow. In her scene, she says, almost looking right into the camera, Are you telling me they knew they were giving AIDS to people and continued to do it? Wow. So that was because the, the blood bank was refusing to do testing or anything. So, that, you know, that, again, that's like, Like you said, for Lost, she's in one scene of that movie, but it's an impactful scene, and it's a line of dialogue they show in the trailer.
Chris:I loved her outtake where she called Jim Carrey a over actor.
Jerome:But if you listen, while everyone's laughing, she says, Tom, Tom made me do that. Tom, the director. Tom did that. She's like, he put me up to it. He put me up to it. That was great. So, so, I mean, again. They love this director, right? Guys like that, and I could totally see him pulling Swoozie Kurtz aside and saying, Hey, when he starts doing his back and forth, call him an over actor.
Chris:Yeah. No, good stuff, man. This was a fun episode. I enjoyed doing a couple comedies.
Jerome:I have to break into one of my lightsabers before we do Six Degrees because I've been doing all of the Sharkarita.
Chris:Yeah, I've been getting liquored up while you took the show, man. I love this job.
Jerome:But I've been doing so much of the Sharkarita, I didn't get to it. So here we go. Are you ready? This is in honor of Six Degrees. Oh yeah, okay.
Chris:So, because we were delayed, I don't have the names I gave you. I gave I know who I know the one was the kid, right? Yes. In Liar Liar, so you're gonna have to tell me, who did I give you? I can't remember the
Jerome:I could just make anybody up at this point. No, there's a So Justin Cooper does play the kid.
Chris:I remember there was an older actor and a younger actor, right?
Jerome:There is. The other actor was James Reed, who plays Ella Wood's dad. Right. Who plays Reese Witherspoon's father in Legally Blonde. Familiar I'm sure by now I'm six degrees, but you might not be familiar so much with our rules now Our rules are I can't use either of the films that were that were using to discuss today Yeah, yeah So I have to pick two different ones to connect Ella Woods's father in legally blonde to Justin Cooper who plays Max In Liar Liar. Yep. Side note!
Chris:I went that way to you know, I like to try to make it hard, not to stump you, but because we want to know if it is possible to connect any two actors within six degrees. And the harder you make it, the more interesting it is, I think.
Jerome:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, a couple side notes here before I tell you. They're both on General Hospital. Now, at, at different times though. They weren't, they never worked together. But they both had stints on General Hospital.
Chris:But they both worked probably with other actors that were. But, but we don't use TV shows.
Jerome:But we don't use TV shows. Right, right, right. Now, and if I could use Liar Liar, it's in two. Because James Reid was 1983 with Jason Bernard who's in Liar Liar. So if I could have used Liar Liar, it would have been in two. But, But I still got it in three. All right, James Reed is in Eight Men Out, the 1988 movie about the Chicago White Sox scandal. Eight Men Out. With Richard Edson, who I know you know who he is. So you remember this isn't one of the movies, but do you remember Ferris Bueller's Day Off? Yeah. Where they take the, the Ferrari to the parking garage? Yes. And he says, do you speak English? And the guy goes, what country do you think this is? That's Richard Edson. So you know his face. Cause he's actually been in a lot of movies. He's been in a shitload of movies. So that's, that's him. He's Richard, that's Richard Edson. So but he was in Platoon. He was implicated. But anyway, so that shows you his range. He's all over the place. So Richard Edson was also in a 1985 movie called Jury Duty. I want to say with Pauly Shore as the lead. Okay. With Brian Doyle Murray, who was in Dennis the Menace Strikes Back. Oh no, Dennis the Menace Strikes Again, 1998 with Justin Cooper. So that's three connections. Eight men out, jury duty, and Dennis the Menace Strikes Again.
Chris:I'm gonna throw a flag on the play. I'm gonna throw a flag. Hold on, let's look it up. I'm looking up Dennis the Menace. Strikes again. Take a look at it on IMDb. It wasn't on the big screen.
Jerome:Oh, we've done, we've done shit like that before. We've done straight to video movies.
Chris:This is straight to video. I thought it had to be
Jerome:We've done straight to video movies before.
Chris:This is the Silver Screen Happy Hour.
Jerome:When you you fucking prick. You, you bastard. Now listen, we We have done straight to video before when you have given me names that, you know,
Chris:I thought you were going to go to the Magnificent, no, that was a TV series.
Jerome:You can't be moving the goalposts here.
Chris:This kid was only in TV and a couple movies.
Jerome:That's what I'm saying. So you gotta give me this straight to video movie. It's still a feature length film that required film cameras, film actors, a director. It's still a film set, you ass.
Chris:Okay, well, I'll give it to you with an asterisk.
Jerome:Fuck. I'm the Houston Astros all of a sudden. Unbelievable. You see? You hear how he does me? He does me wrong, people. Anyway.
Chris:I'm looking. There's only, man, Adventures of Ragtime. He did that. That must have been a feature leak film on the big screen. Because it doesn't say straight to video. And then Liar Liar. Those are the only two movies I think he did. Wait a minute. See y'all. Yeah? That's it. He was on an episode of Full House, episode of ER. Huh. Now, I did read, like, a bit of trivia. This kid went on to become, I think he's a Forts Forts. Man, a couple shots of larceny going to my head. I think he's a Fox Sports commentator. I think I read that somewhere.
Jerome:Justin Cooper?
Chris:Yeah.
Jerome:Yeah, I think I saw that too.
Chris:Interesting. Yeah. Well, good, good job, man. This was fun. So much fun, man. We gotta do comedies again, I enjoy mixing it up. We gotta do, a couple of these a year, maybe, where we throw some good comedies in.
Jerome:Yeah, we've had some, we've had some heavy themed movies, man.
Chris:Yeah, the World War, movies, man. It's like, uh. yeah. They're good. They're good.
Jerome:So, ironically. A dark episode like Silence of the Lambs is the one you almost died on from laughter, so sometimes we can make light of just about anything.
Chris:Yeah, 100%. Um. 100%. I would like to still consider this for a future episode, maybe another Jim Carrey movie, cause I think Jim Carrey got a lot of inspiration. From Jerry Lewis. Sure. And I could imagine doing maybe an old Jerry Lewis movie and pairing up with the Jim Carrey movie. Cause I mean the physical comedy that Jerry Lewis brought to the screen, man. And a lot of people today don't know they never seen those movies. A lot of kids probably never saw Jerry Lewis movie. And yeah, it would be fun to do a matchup like that. Jerry Lewis and Jim carrey.
Jerome:So that reminds me, you know, I almost forgot about the other trivia was that Jim Carrey who is quoted as saying That it was one of the most exhausting movies he's ever made that every time he would go home every night completely drained completely exhausted Because they would do so many different takes of everything And that I can't remember the number that the number but I want to say they burned they burned more footage than Titanic.
Chris:Oh my god.
Jerome:And it just came out in the same year, I want to say. That they, they, because just, you know, unused. Titanic used theirs. But like, Liar Liar went through more footage that was unused.
Chris:I would love to see some of those outtakes.
Jerome:Yeah, I mean, could you just imagine? And I remember people saying on the set of The Office that Steve Carell is the same way. That, you know, what you see in an episode of The Office took about 20 takes to get there. Yeah. And the other 19 were no less funny.
Chris:Well, yeah, funny. I mean, have you watched the new Office episodes on Peacock?
Jerome:No, they have new office episodes.
Chris:Yeah. So we exhausted, we watched the office a million times on, I think Netflix when it was on and then Peacock got it. So to make people come back and watch it with commercials, cause we don't pay for. Right. We get the commercials on Peacock. Yeah, Peacock gives you commercials. So does Freevie. So, in order to watch it, they, I mean, they got us to come back because there's a lot of footage that were never in the original episodes. Wow, they put a lot of the outtakes in back in so I'm watching it And I'm like and all of a sudden I'm bust out laughing cuz I'm hearing stuff. I've never heard before. It's hilarious Yeah, yeah, you should do you should pull it up and watch some
Jerome:Ironically Jim Carrey makes an appearance on that show
Chris:when
Jerome:did you know that
Chris:when? I don't remember
Jerome:He's the Finger Lakes guy. So near, I want to say it was when they were trying to find the new, the new branch manager. It had to have been one of the final episodes before Dwight finally gets his shot being Dwight. And they start interviewing all these weird people. Jim Carrey is one of the people they interview. And all he keeps talking about is how he's from the Finger Lakes.
Chris:I don't remember that part. I remember when they were interviewing all the different, like it was a bunch of comedians. Yeah. That got interviewed. It was great. But I don't remember Jim Carrey.
Jerome:YouTube, The Office, Jim Carrey, Finger Lakes. And you can see his, his very small part in it. Alright. But but yeah. Wow. So, everything goes full circle with comedy and Jim Carrey. Alright, so looking ahead, next month, February. I'm assuming people are listening while we're in January. Yep. Next month, February, is our Valentine's Day special. Where we pick a couple of romance films that have to do with bending of time. Yes, time travel, yep. Two films are about time with Rachel McAdams and Domhnall Gleeson and the other one is what was it, Somewhere in Time with Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour? Jane Seymour. That sounds right. Yeah, so again. We're just throwing this out there right now. We don't have any specs in front of us So if we're getting the names wrong, sorry But anyway, that's our that's on our agenda for next month. I've already begun The work on it and some of it is already pissed me off, but we'll get to that.
Chris:I can't wait I just can't wait. That's all I'm gonna say.
Jerome:Keep drinking and keep watching. Keep drinking, keep watching uh, go support your local cinema.