Are You Lonesome Tonight? Do you miss me tonight? Are you sorry? We drifted does your mail. Welcome to our podcast. Come back to significant buffers. We are a true love podcasts, hopeless romantic. So hopeless. Oh hopefully yeah. Helpless hopelessly devoted to podcasting. Yep. About kanays. I'm Kel and I am now and we are two cousins too cuz who cousins cousins which we have to do again? Yep, every time I've tried to do Trivia lately. I have bad luck. So hmm. Doesn't work out.
Let's do it next week. Good luck is Round the Corner. Let's do it. All right, but we don't want a bigger team. I need a price. I need a bigger team. I want to get free things. I'm really excited for today's couple. I'm pumped, guys. Do you even know what this is? Look at your phone, your computer screen or whatever? Well, maybe they're letting it just play, you know? It's looking like they might not know what episode it is.
Yes, one is Vanessa Hudgens and Austin Butler when this episode comes out this is a few days after the Oscars. Hmm it could be Oscar winner. Austin Butler could be for Elvis. That would be crazy because we'll get into it. But like that was like his first Big Break. Yeah, I mean he's been acting for a while but that's like his first big role a role, you know, or will it be palmice? Go, our guy last episode that's a little bit unlikely but still he's nominated we should do.
Colin Farrell next episode. Brendan Fraser the episode out for that and then Bill Nye the Science Guy I could see you doing a bit. Bill Nye episode Bill Nye the Science Guy. Yeah, I want to do like a pole soon. I want people to submit their ideas for the weirdest couples. We could possibly do. That's a good idea. I mean like Nick won the actual weird ones. Yeah. Like my friend has recommended one recently that I think. Is it weird? No, it was, it was just surprising. What is it?
An Agatha. Christie Agatha Christie Christie. Let her name. The writer you better? Yeah. But I forget who the man was. Oh that's cool though. That's cool. She wrote a lot of mysteries. That'd be cool. Yeah. There's some really interesting like literary couples. Yeah. Not today. Today. Today is a story of I like you know every episode I want there to be some type of overarching story to it like I feel like FKA twigs. Wigs and Robert Pattinson was falling in love.
After a, I don't want big a big lovely, obviously, different narratives depending on your perspective, do you believe? But that was my ex-girlfriend is still your son. Shot was of the ex-girlfriend or something and then what are some other like sort of working with your ex? After the breakup, mmm pain and Blake best friends to lovers. We've had that know Mila Kunis. Yeah. Is that what you're thinking? Yeah, but also I guess lovers two best friends b.j. Novak and Michaela.
Oh my gosh, throwback bestowed. One was another theme. Having an affair to marriage? Yeah those actually. But most recently, June and Johnny Cash, hmm. Yes, you're getting together while you're in a relationship. What are some other ones that we've done? It's like art of That the list College. Classmates don't bring your wife or your cousin. Yeah, that's the same top and two people.
Yeah. But this one, the story is, I think when there's a power imbalance in the relationship and specifically with careers, because I think that's a big challenge in this relationship, like one of the words I would use to describe them is, Balance. Oh but then the lighter words are affectionate and playful I think. I was genuinely so sad when I found out these two broke up me too.
And I after I'm Kristin broke up, I kind of said like I wasn't going to care about me celebrity couples ever again but I was very sad that they broke up me and I were together for so long, so long. Yeah. And it just seemed really ready and stable. Like I feel like it was just consistent like it was something that we could rely on. Yeah. You know, we need that as a nation.
Exactly like no matter Matter what is going on at like, at least Finessin Austin. We're Going Strong, they're going to Coachella. Yeah, they were having fun. Okay, so the power imbalance thing, I kind of struggled that idea some time because I'm like, does it always matter? Is there a parent power imbalance? If you don't even perceive it? You know what I mean? I know. Yeah. Like if I was with wicked famous guy, but like, I didn't care,
like, would it matter? I mean, it might I've been an actual factor in this relationship. I think that's something that we project onto them, but it just seems really typical for them. I mean, we'll get into it, but like, it's just so interesting because Vanessa, was this A-list celebrity. Yeah, especially when they got together, dating someone, who nobody even really knew. Yeah, and then he becomes a lot more famous. And then they break out the Bulls have turn.
No, I think it's a it is a real thing. It happens a lot. Especially with famous people. Yeah, money. Yeah. Your Fame can just ruin everything. I know people get competitive competitive about it. Yeah. I mean, I think it's one thing. It's like, if you truly never had any aspirations to be famous or an actor or anything, and you're dating a famous actor, I don't think you would really care that.
Yeah, job be happy to be along for the ride, but like, if you Also, wanted that I think it would be hard. Yeah. You like become competitive with your partner. Yeah. And I think there's a gender gender roles at play here. That Vanessa was the more successful one at first. Yeah. Which could make some men, feel inferior. Like, I think that that is perceived to be the conflict. That was in the Reese Witherspoon and Ryan feel, right?
Yeah, because they broke up right after she won an Oscar. Screw. Oh yeah. I feel like that happens. A lot of people but it seems like awesome was okay with it for a long time. Yeah well we'll get into. Okay. So who is Austin Butler? Academy Award nominee is quite sexy? Oh my God every time he comes always has mean yeah good-looking man. It's like, you know, I was just a shy shy. Boy, afraid to order at a restaurant. I love his office voice. It is really sexy.
So, who is he? He was born, August 17th, 1991 in Orange County the o.c. His mom is Lori and she was a whore and Butler. Yeah, Laurie and Butler. She was a kid. I was just like, it's someone who's like, does Beauty as fission. I don't know. And his dog was David. I don't know what he did. David Butler, David Butler. Why did he seem so? From just want to figure it out. They was he I don't know what that did.
Oh I'm not sure I'm sure he couldn't think up parents divorced when he was 70. He also has a sister Ashley five years older than him. Ashley Butler. Hmm, I don't know why they all saw him from. Is there any other famous Butler? Like, I don't know why. I don't think I know another Butler. Yeah mmm it's a nice. Last name is interesting. He must come from a line of Butler's because you know how people are named after like the
occupation of their ancestors. Huh. Descended from Butler's. Yeah, cool. So he claims that he was painfully shy growing out like painfully sand. As I have a hard time believing that but maybe it's like the Mila Kunis thing through got into acting to come out of the shell, I know. I have trouble believing it too, because I've always been pretty shy and I, therefore don't think I can act. Just seems like some people are able to only be confident when
they're acting or something. Like, they've changed their personality. But I still don't like a twin brother was shot. Yeah. So he was wicked shy. Yeah. He had special for help for it. I still think he is shy. He is kind of. Yeah. But I guess it. He turns it off when he's Warming. Yes. Wow. I don't know how people do it. I know I'm just like Stuck in the Middle. I'm yeah I'm kind of like the opposite. Like I feel like I'm not super shy but I can't perform.
Yeah, I don't even though anyway. I guess I'm performing right now though. It's just uh it's different. It will don't get that. I know the job that I now have in the interview the woman who's now my boss said, That I knew you'd be a good speaker because you have a podcast. I can edit those. I'm talking to my cousin. Yeah, so scary when the episode comes out though. Oh yeah. Oh jeez. We're gonna post it to my story.
I don't get self-conscious but whatever I'm trying to learn like embarrassment is your own perception. Hmm. Nothing is embarrassing unless you feel embarrassed that's D. So I'm just choosing not to be. Embarrassed by anything? Yeah, you're right. But I still do feel embarrassed about pretty much everything. So at age, 13, he was approached by an agent, who are like, I know how this is. This gonna be more. This is happening all the time. Do these agents?
Just like walk up to a random kid and say, hey, do you want to talk? I know it's kind of weird. Hey, you should model. I feel like if I was a parent, I would think that that is a scammer sunscreen, but he was like, sure. And then he started doing back. Background acting. So he's just an extra and TV shows, cute start from the bottom. You really don't hear ya in seventh grade, he began homeschooling to accommodate his background acting.
I mean, that's a visitation yeah, because you're really, it's a lot of work for little pay. Yeah. Be like an extra Bingley. Yeah, that's cute. I want to see what he was a background actor, and he was an extra for Drake and Josh and I'm fabulous. This and then in 2005 he was cast as a regular background actor on Ned's Declassified that's kind of cool. That's very real like they see
the same kids in the background. Yeah sometimes I do have to act you know you have to like all act grossed out by some amazed. Yeah and I bet it's fun for them with other kids but I think he did have a couple lines and that's declassified. He was friends with Lindsey Shaw. Ah, who plays most? Oh, I remember her. I think that's how he got the part. Wow. What's she up to people were like really mad at her a couple days ago about something? I forgot what What if he covered her?
Yeah. Yeah, then he did some guest roles speaking roles on Hannah Montana. I don't remember it all, so I can picture it. Yeah, I'll be making that up in my head, but I think how I came to know who he was, was from Zoey 101. The last season, I don't remember. Remember like, okay? So like Zoe goes to England to go to boarding. - I literally don't remember. Okay, I didn't want anymore. Okay, let me recap. Okay, Jose Joey Zoe let's to England to go to boarding
school. Chase is like no, Zoe don't leave goes and follows her to England and roles in her one. Porting School little does he know that Zoey has changed his mind and goes back to PCI? So Chase is now in England, the whole semester, I don't know what was going on actor. So instead of having Chase on the show. They gave they brought in Austin. Butler, please. So he's boyfriend. But then in the end Chase comes back very convoluted.
I know how would the parents be down for that also teenagers? Like I want to follow my girls up to England but it Chase easily weren't even together. I don't rush on her. Okay. I want to follow my crushed England. Yeah. Okay, honey. Yeah, we live in California again, goes. I don't remember that. Hmm. So I don't know what was going on behind the scenes. Why they needed to give Zoey a new love interest, but he was just there for the last year.
I found interesting kind of a flat character. I feel like darn didn't really have much going on kind of eye candy. The teens, that in 2009, he was cast in the film aliens in the ad. Alongside Ashley Tisdale, no way. He was also cast in the starring role of a show called Ruby and the rockets, which I actually remember vaguely was on ABC Family. It was about like the Cassidy Brothers, something fun season. Don't remember.
One of those shows, really you fall asleep and and he was also on the show Life, Unexpected. Okay, that is ringing. Annabelle to me was it like twins Switched at Birth or something? No. Oh who's also on the ship called switched a? Wow, he really worked his way up. I gotta say these on all these kind of bad show. Wait, Life, Unexpected, okay. Without like a pregnancy thing,
I that sounds familiar. I don't know, there was a period of time when I was I guess when both of us were in Middle School pregnancy was like the it. Oh my God. It was so it was fettered by. It's all he had. Did he especially um, Teen Mom 16 and Pregnant Juno? Secret life, American teenager, everyone was pregnant and on every team show there was an easy pregnancy. I was disappointed. When I got sick High School,
nobody was pregnant. There was only one really but she was, I was like a senior and she's a freshman so I didn't even get to watch. I have. That's disappointing. You know and I think was like near the end of the year. You kept the baby I believe. Anyway so yeah so he was really Just doing as Kelly said, these bad roles kind of or bad shows and he gave an interview recently in GQ where he said I wanted to, to do a part, like, What's Eating Gilbert Grape or The Basketball Diaries?
I was watching, Raging Bull and those types of films and going, I don't want to be just a guy who walks in slow-mo, through a door, which is kind of interesting because who does this remind me of Taylor Lautner? No. Oh, Zack out who Vanessa dating? Who was eye candy and you wanted to be more serious. But, you know, kind of look down on the roles that he had saying. Well, Vanessa likes the eye candy.
Yeah, she gets it. Yeah, the article also wrote, I just thought this was interesting to, you know, get a glimpse of Austin. So how did he finally extricate himself from teen crush territory, Butler, pauses to think about it. Do you ever listen to Ira Glass? He asked I'm saying the popular public radio personality.
There's that one episode where he talks about how there's this gap between where your skill is and where you take where your taste is. You may want to make work that corresponds with your taste, but your capabilities aren't quite there yet. Butler says you related to that being firmly in the middle of the Gap in mostly taking jobs to pay the bills which I really really to that because it's like, you know, we went to school for writing and
literature and publish. It's not like that we're not doing our Dream role, like, jobs that we would have wanted to do by any true or not, you know, sorry. We realized, I'm not okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's very thoughtful of him. Yeah. Like you can't just expect like not everybody's going to be able to do just what is? Yeah, in their taste. Yeah, yeah, wow. But that's how you gain experience. Audiences by doing other things and being combo about it and do it to the fullest. Mmm.
I really admire that. Hmm. So I didn't cover Vanessa's back story because oh, yeah, we've already covered baby. Be. This is our second Vanessa Hudgens episode. But we talked about her a lot in our stack and Vanessa one. I just adore. Vanessa Hudgens. If she seems really sweet. She's sweet. She's funny. She's cute. I'm gonna put episode. I didn't remember one episode. I was talking about all these comments a pauper out so had said and he said that he missed Vanessa Hudgens and show him.
Oh. I wasn't that? Yeah. I thought so that. Um yeah he liked Vanessa Hudgens. Yeah that's really nice. Yeah I think she should fit so bubbly. Yeah and obviously before awesome Butler her big relationship was Zac Efron which is crazy because it's like that was a huge relationship. Yeah, and we've covered it. So go listen to it. You didn't listen yet. What were our takeaways from
that? Like I feel like we, I felt like by the end of it. I felt like that she actually deserved better and that she was kind of too good for him. Yeah. No, it was a team thing. It seems like it was nice for a while, but yeah, it's going to take her that seriously. So now, which is crazy because it's Vanessa Hudgens. Hmm, you know what I mean? Yeah, like I can't even believe this. At people like shion's. It's beautiful.
I know amazing people. Not, he didn't cheat, but at least not to our knowledge, but just that in general. Hmm, I can't believe it happens. Yeah, their relationship seemed a little bit, not super passionate. Like, I feel like we walked away from a, not really knowing what their Dynamic even was, It was kind of hard to even push them together. Yeah, hmm. How long were they together again? Died? Five years. Yeah, its pretty long. She's a long.
Long-term. Yeah. Dater. She's in it for the long haul. That's sweet. She's committed. Cute means she is was famous and so pretty. It's like she doesn't really have to be. She could be dating like a ton of people if she wanted. Yeah, exactly. It's cool. Yeah, I think she likes the stability of long-term relationships, but yeah. So I'm going to give her a back story but How did they meet so long before?
Dating, Vanessa, and Austin met because they're both really good friends with Ashley Tisdale actually just don't believe character again. So Austin. I don't know how Austin and Ashley became close because they weren't in that movie, they We're, but apparently they were
friends even before that know. If I read that Vanessa and Austin met on the set of High School Musical, which back in 2005, I was he there may be using because he was friends with Ashley. Oh, maybe it was in the background to, that's so classic for Ashley, though. Like, I knew him so long ago. Yeah, I knew him literally. Actually, literally calls him her best friend, like, there's no way. No, she's at that. Exact to, I know. My son is too. I will get away from her. She is married.
Okay. And it seems like Vanessa trust her but I don't know. We got a message from someone, I'm sorry. I forget your name right now but I can remember you. But you said that you've been following this for years and that Ashley Tisdale is sketchy watch out for her, rubs me, the wrong way. Yeah, I just think. Okay. I think men and women. We can be friends. Yes, but saying he's your best friend. When he's in a relationship with your other friend. I don't know. It just makes me a little bit
uncomfortable. Already pulled that with Zach. Yeah, exactly. Why do you have to be your your friend's boyfriend's best friend? Look, here's the thing, though. Like, what? Like, I was gonna plan to get into this later but She knew Austin burst before she met Vanessa. All right, so you're right. You're right, but It does seem like there's an unspoken thing in girl world where it's a little after they break up. Can you really be close with both of them? I mean it is tough.
I will say like, I had two friends in college. Well, I was friends with one guy in college, like, friendly like we now he's a good friend of mine. Oh, yeah. And he introduced me to his friend and then I ended up being roommates with her and I became really good friends with her and they dated for two years and then they broke up and I did stay friends with both of them now, I am probably better friends with him just because I happen to speak to him more. But is that bad?
Like, should I have picked a side? I don't know. It's tough, I guess. If you're like, not really seeing each other. In each of them at the same time, then doesn't really do much harm. I don't know. Yeah, it was tricky. I do think sometimes if you go through a breakup, it is hard to be friends with someone who is still friends with your ex because it's like a portal into their life. Still. I know you know, I've looked like never gone through that
everybody. I've dated has been like detached from the rest of my social life kind of so So yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'm still in a group text with someone who I cried about many times. Now, I don't really care though. I think, okay, the men and women being friends, being friends with your friends ex or whatever, all that. I feel like it is just case-by-case. It's hard to have like, one rule for the whole thing. Yeah, exactly. No. Yeah, like, oh, who did you know
first yeah. What was the nature of the breakup? Was it like, Anika? Or was it like absolutely terrible? Yeah I don't know. It really is Case by case but it's yeah I think about it's interesting just something to think about. Yeah. So throughout the year she does say he's our best friend and fun fact, though, actually something that well, I might make this a little bit less annoying is Ashley, was on one of those shows where they do a DNA test and their cousins. Yes. Distantly.
She's distantly related to Oz. She was like, that's why we have such an intense Bond. How Distant. I don't know. Okay sealant. You should. Yeah we know from couple episodes bag being cousins doesn't automatically deter some people she is awesome but married. But how many okay, how many degrees of cousins would you be okay with dating someone? Yeah I got this cousin that's so far. Yeah honestly On the DNA thing, like I go through my matches and even someone who's like your
second cousin only shares. Such a limited amount of DNA is actually true Mill because he was gonna, I didn't the podcast then I'm like, okay I fact chucked us back. Chucked us, his it. Yeah, fact-check us sometimes. And I was like, looking up cousins and apparently not saying I'm like condoning, this, but apparently marriage between second cousins isn't even real. A big deal. No only book like it's safe. Yeah.
And his cousin's, probably not. But to see if you have a big family, then you might not even know that you're related to somebody. I do there have been this is sad like there have been siblings who have been separated through adoption and then find each other and life and got together. Because that's such an intense Bond odds. My God fall in love and then find out that they're brother. And sister that Sora tile happened at least. Once I remember coming home, was a story.
I think I might have even been twins. Oh my God, this sounds like a 80s romance novel. Isn't that tragic? Yeah. And then your brother Yeah, I also read that 80% of human history. Marriages have been between cousins so you joking 80%. Yeah, that's right here. Histories pretty long actually. So it took a while for. Yeah, especially, places like, I'm sorry, I love you. But like, Iceland, like not many people there. Yeah, not many people there. R.
Wow, I know your cousin. That's the thing is. I don't really know like, like it, my cousins who we won't forget them. So we have some of the same cousins. Yeah, it's like you spend holidays with them, like you? Yeah, when you were little, that's weird. But if there is a cousin who I like never met before, does anybody know their third cousins? Hmm, like we know are some of our second cousins but I have absolutely no idea.
The third cousin. I don't even really know who that would be. Yeah, yeah, if I was dating someone and then I found out there my third cousin, I'm not gonna end. I know you really only share literally, like, like only like one person and it's like less than 1% of DNA. No, no, she does the tests and I've tested both? Yeah. I want to do it. Still someday. Never mashed with the Our booty. You should do it. We'll see how much do you need that?
We show ya cuz I'm apparently related to Alec Baldwin. Yeah. Oh wow. But we'll see if that's true. Who told you that my mom? Oh yeah. Cuz she did the or the answers. Yeah, tracing, yeah. Anyway. Anyway, so Haley Beaver? Yeah. She's my cousin. Oh yeah, she's my fifth cousin maeby. Interests are talking about her before we start recording. Anyway, back to the story. Oh my God. Sorry guys. So so they knew each other like they're in the same orbit school. She didn't know that.
Yeah, she was dating Zach, and then it is 2011. It's September, it's year about a year. It was it. I don't know. I can't remember anything about that year. It's about a year after Vanessa and Zach broke up and a few months after she Supposedly broke. Josh, Hutcherson, start. Oh, I don't know what Howard Josh. Peter Vanessa is asked by People magazine if she's single, and she says, yes, and Giggles.
She's so good, really. Yeah, then a few weeks later, Vanessa 22 in, Austin 20, were photographs kissing at Ashley to Stills, birthday party, and Ally my goodness. A source says they were together, but in a large group. They were not doing anything to show that they were really together romantically, but they were definitely hanging out, and having fun. And then, in October Paparazzi snaps, a photo of them walking in the rain together in ela.
And then, in November, they're photographed by paps holding hands together in Venice Beach. So they were dating, then in December, oh my gosh, lots of PDA, like they're photographed several times making out in front of a church. Point. They go to church. A lot really didn't know that beginning? Yeah, they do the Hillsong thing that the celebrities do, was she doing that before out of, you know, the answer. I wonder if she's doing it before or like, did she start
with him? I'm that's a good question, I'm not sure. I don't remember that from his Echo pisode. So yeah, I bring it up, maybe she started only with him. And so, was he on The Carrie Diaries yet? Was that later? Okay. Okay, so he's like really not famous. That's true. He's like known for Zoey 101? Yeah. People must've been like who? Yeah. People were like, who that will come up many times for these? Yeah, they're photographed. Kissing at LAX, they're
photographed. She's photographs straddling him loose on Miami. I'll show you how to do that with Zach. Yeah, yeah. She loves these affectionate. She really is, he's cute. This is very cute. Couple I gotta say, let me see. Oh my yeah, guys. She's on top of him in public and one of those like those, you know, bed luxury, poolside bed. There's a name for it. So then it's 2012 January. Vanessa and Austin went on a double date with Danielle Panabaker and her boyfriend. LOL, that's sweet.
Love it. Still hanging out with the do. Disney. Yeah. Yeah. Panabaker February, Vanessa and Austin made their red carpet debut as a couple. So they must they're dating for like five months now, for the premiere of her movie Journey to the Center of the Earth, the ascendant. Yeah. 020 shoot drain to alongside Josh Hutcherson X. Hmm. Supposedly, I know, I would actually like to figure out what
happened with that. I don't know, for some reason I kind of doubt it. I think like they were at the start of a relationship and it didn't really pan out. Maybe he really liked her maybe she died. I really like, like Vanessa She seems like a hopeless romantic. Yeah, she does. Then they take a trip to Paris and our photograph sightseeing by Paparazzi. I do have to say romantic. This is a theme for Vanessa because we covered this in the Zac Efron one.
Yeah. All of her properly pictures do look very sick to good to believe. Oh yeah, I'm showing that Boca. Yeah, they look very polished like that staring into each other's eyes. That has to be staged a little bit. That doesn't mean they're not really together? No, I don't think so, just means maybe she was communicating with the public or her people were. That's probably why the
paparazzi love her. So then it smart, it's reported that Austin has been cast and as the lead male role in In The Carrie Diaries and the CW actually didn't watch that me neither. Hmm, didn't Kaitlyn? I think so now. Yeah I wonder like does it have the same humor and such as X in the city probably hard to picture? Yeah I should we watch sex in the city. I love it. I do think it's probably one of my top three favorite shows so
good. We should do someone from Second City. You're so right, Mom. Oh my gosh, Kelly just saw it. Did you think I saw that on the podcast? Know, I saw SJP York? It was crazy near Cara's apartment. Yeah. Believe it or not. Yeah, right. Well, her store is on the same street as Cara's apartment. I didn't know that. But yeah, so I went there to see the apartment and then this random man was like, Sarah. Jessica Parker's down. There's another store. She's at the end of the stream.
Like, what is like? Yeah. Do you want to see Sarah, Jessica, Parker? She's telling me. There. It's just man. I was you know, a good guy. Did he tell everybody? I don't know. There was like a crowd, I felt kind of bad or weird. Like there was a crowd of people forming just to see her but then I suppose you mail this but this lady pulled up in her car and she had like two dogs with her up in the front seat and she was like what's going on and I said oh it's Sarah.
Jessica, Parker she's here and I don't know why I expected. She would just be like, oh I don't care, but she was like, wow. I gotta Park, I'll be right back. So Carl. The guard looks so funny. It was really exciting. Everyone was so excited about these they're just yeah, I hope that means a lot to start. I know. She's real, she's real. She's. Yeah, she's really carrying She only she's a shoe store.
Yeah she's carrying my gosh. I think she liked lives in the West Village to so yeah she's really embraced that role literally carry. He's kind of like an awesome Butler. Yeah yeah back to Austin back to Austin and Vanessa. So then in April they make their first debut as a couple at Coachella and there's video of them Rives at Coachella. Of course. Oh, she goes every single year is my heart doesn't feel like I was that, that it was cancelled over covid.
She was cancelled for that time. Yeah, temporarily canceled for them to forgive her. She bounced back, honestly, it was cute. The way she said guys, she loves Coachella. Yeah. Let's where she belongs. Like that is honestly Lee. Yes it's it was insensitive at the time. Yeah. But it was that was a grief that a lot of people felt. Yeah during covid. When the things that they love, we're getting cancelled. That's a natural like let's normalize it.
Like people just felt grief. That life was pausing. Yes, she was a celebrity. Yes. Like she it's really not the same yesterday. A big house. Like she was fine. Yeah, bye. She was disappointed. Okay. I used to want to go to Coachella very badly. Isn't it so expensive but guess that's why I let go of that dream. Yeah, I don't know. I felt like oh I feel like most
music festivals are the same. Yeah, I don't need to go all the way over there to go. No, no. Yeah, I feel like honestly, I'm not like an l.a. girly. They're spotted shopping at Ikea together, leading people to speculate. It's like maybe they were moving in together. I wonder if they've played pretend like 500 Days of Summer is really in may? They photographed several times a week together?
So they're like, honestly I it's impossible for me to tell you guys every single time to photograph because, like, it's going to happen, like they're together all the time, all the time. Yeah, there's a lot of PDA. They're always kissing in public, they're always holding hands. It's very affectionate even, like, I'll show you this picture of them kissing in a garden. Oh, wow, it's just Let's see, then. Oh wow, that looks like engagement photos. That's too perfect. Beautiful guys.
There's pink roses in the background. It's beautiful. But that does make me think that like, mmm Paparazzi was pissed off because it's just yeah that yeah. How are they just catch them? Yeah. Unless they're kissing every single second. Most people even I don't know, even if you are into I feel like you're not just making out everyday and beautiful settings, like that. No, yeah, that looks like a literal movie. They attended a Renaissance Faire together.
Oh, that's really cute. Really cute. Quirky, their relationship systems really flirty Carefree. Yeah, they just from the past as an outsider not really paying that close attention, they did seem Carefree to me. Yeah. June of that year there they attend. The Formula One championship in Monte Carlo, which my new boss was actually just talking to me about the show about the Formula One Championship. Really. Yeah. And I actually had no idea what that a TV show about it.
Yeah. I guess scripted show her the reality show. She said it was really, really good. So wow. That's kind of interesting that I did this research and yet when she was telling me about that, I had no idea what it was. It's like the European car racing. Yeah. And then they took a romantic trip to Barcelona after their photo saying, wow, a million times in Barcelona. Oh my goodness, Vanessa loves a
good romantic at all. That's something that we have learned about it. He does it is interesting to think about the like with these kind of things. Like, I mean, I guess he had a lot of roles TV roles at this point but it's like, no, like I'm guessing she had more money than him, maybe. Well, yes. He's for these extravagant, she does like that's a blind item. Okay, that that he lived with her in his house and that would like she paid for him for everything.
It's like understandable, though. I feel like if I had a lot of money, I would be like, yeah, I want to go to Barcelona with you and yeah, I'm paying for it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, because she's like, what's she going to do? Like not go to Barcelona with your boyfriend because he can't afford it? She's getting pretty easily. Yeah, huge deal. Yeah, that's interesting though. Yeah, like he was really living the life being that he was
living the way. So that phrase then they go to another Music Festival that August and which one it's called outside land, okay? I've heard of it in San Francisco and there's a quote, from People Magazine from a source that said she would make A cute little faces at him. And it's the candle is like ambulance or something. It's just the candle she would make cute little faces at him and he would just stare at her looking totally in love.
Oh, and the source adds that they both had Flawless skin. I like that dude. Yeah. It's like a little later but like I hate to be so, is there like a phrase for Or. Giving preference to Beautiful People or something. You know what I mean? Yeah. But picturing him loving her and her loving him. They're just both so beautiful.
I like oh it's so beautiful. Yeah, now I think that there must be a biological reason why we love beautiful people for some reason, Beautiful People, beautiful problem. And then in September of that year a year into their relationship, they walk the red carpet together. ER at the Venice film festival for the premiere of Spring Breakers. Hmm watch that. Movie by myself. To do ya, have fun by yourself?
So I'm going to feel like kind of going fast through the years now because there's just so much. Like, I guess you all little details anymore. Yeah, so yeah, in 2013 and March bring bring spring breakers. Comes out and Austin isn't able to attend the premiere. But he tweets I'm homesick but sending Tons of love to everyone. At the Spring Breakers Premiere, especially the beautiful girl in the feather dress.
I like these sweet, you know, and then April, they attend Coachella together again and Austin's co-star in The Carrie Diaries and Sophia Rob. Oh, yes, she's interviewed by Seventeen magazine and she's asked about her, co-star, Austin. And she says, He's so cute. And he talks about Vanessa all the time, they're crazy and love. I don't think I'm ready to beat that in love. They put so much time into their relationship and I'm too selfish right now.
Wow, okay. That's very telling because like she wasn't even asked about their relationship. That's the true seeing all that heard it from AnnaSophia Robb. I have no idea what that girl's up to me. Neither hopefully she's doing well. Well, her and Khloe Kris morass and Abigail Breslin. Yeah, they're all in like the feet.
I hope you're all doing, okay. And maybe go to Vegas together and their reports that they were at a party and kissing non-stop the whole time in July Vanessa's, photograph going to a yoga class with a hickey on her neck. Vanessa, they like, they can keep their hands off each other and in December 2013, she post a picture of Austin to her Instagram for the first time. My God, what took so long now?
It's a hard launch, its it? Well, actually, it's a soft launch because it's a group picture that he's in with the Hillsong church friends. We know they're together and I know do it. Yeah, you're walking a red carpet, but you won't post. Instagram and Vanessa had a huge Hollywood themed birthday party. And Austin was by her side, the whole night dancing together. Hollywood-themed old Hollywood? Oh, okay. As you say isn't it probably in ha. Yeah.
So, Vanessa and 2014 goes on Ellen show and she talked about this. So I will was fun though. It seems fun. And you were with your new boyfriend. Yeah. Not that new. Not that. How long have you been with him? How long tears? Two years know, that isn't new? That's that's a nice amount of time. Yeah. What's his name? His name is Austin Butler and what does he do? He's backstage, he's on the show. Called The Carrie Diaries. Uh-huh Vegas. That's cute. Yeah, that's a cute boy right there.
No, he's pretty handsome. Very, very handsome. That's is it my birthday? Y'all look like you're going to prom right there. Really awesome prom. This is just a whole slide show of us, isn't it? So very giggly, but isn't doesn't that speak to the fact that like nobody really knew Austin? Was that two years into dating? Yeah, it didn't even mattered like Helens like oh yeah, he's cute. Yeah, like he's really in the shadow of Vanessa, he was two years into a dating Zone. Oh, you're new.
That's kind of crazy. I know, I really was also because like she had dated Zack for so long, but like, if she had been dating a celebrity like a A-list celebrity, like a month in everybody would know about it. Yeah, I mean, it's like crazy that they are photographs so much, but people don't even really care that much. Like, I'd be really thrown off if someone referred to my boyfriend of two years, isn't new boyfriend. Now, how are you Charlie? Dated not.
Yeah, I mean not even Three years yet. So here we go. Yeah, imagine if someone said that yeah your new boyfriend. Yeah wait right. Yeah. Three years this someone? Yeah. Oh wow, time is flying. Yes, they go on a double date and merge with Ashley Benson and Ryan. Good. Oh, cool. In April 2014, they attend court Elegance or time. I think this is go every year and Have to keep mentioning it cute in August 2014.
It's Austin's, 23rd birthday and Vanessa post a photo of them together and captions it yesterday was the love of my lifes birthday. Happy birthday to the man with the Kindest Heart. Beautiful Soul crazy talent and best looks I've ever known. He never stops inspiring me in every aspect of life, and always lifts those around him up higher. I thank God. So greatly for blessing the world 23 years ago by creating Austin Butler. That is so sweet.
I know girl, she's head over heels for him but it really is like like she's so supportive of him like she's like, he's so hard-working so handsome and it's just like, nobody even really even knew who he was, you know what I mean? She's really lifting him up and like telling the world.
Like this is a great guy. Okay, more sad stuff though like sadly Austin's Mom Lori passed away after a battle with cancer and he tweeted Lori. Butler my mom my hero and my best friend passed away this morning. Let's all celebrate her. I love you and we'll miss you everyday, mom. Vanessa retweeted his message and added, I miss you already Mama. Hashtag, rip, Floyd Butler. Hashtag celebrate. Lohri spread the love for Lori. He's only two, 23.
I know it's really sad is sad but the fact that she called her mama like she really like she's in his family. So, 2015, an August Vanessa and Austin have been together for almost four years. And at the MTV Music Awards, and he's asked how they managed to stay together for so long by
entertainment tonight. And he says, it's important to put the other person first, if you're constantly looking for ways that you can make them happy and they're constantly looking for ways that they can make you happy, then you kind of lift each other up as much as possible and you can't go wrong. Sweet. And then for Austin's 24th birthday. They celebrate in Disneyland together and Vanessa posts, a gif of them on a ride and wrote, he makes me happy and it's his birthday.
Oh, cute. And then that same month, Austin posts a picture of Vanessa, for the first time to his Instagram. What four years into dating? What the fuck that's crazy? That we were here and we like a Charlie is Instagram, like that's kind of weird. A long time, if you think famous people can be weird about that. They are. It's like some that overdo it and do like crazy and then there's some that act like they're not dating anybody. It's very weird. I know it's weird.
But it's like, obviously, you're dating her. I know I'm going to red carpets your foot, like people know you as Witnesses boy. Maybe that's why maybe I wouldn't like that. No, I don't know. That's like posed me. He's living room. I think that's A big part of yeah, your life, you're not gonna put in the first time. Mmm, four years into dating.
What the fuck? That's crazy, but all right, 26th and asses playing Rizzo on Grease live, mmm, and sadly hours before she is to perform her father passes away from cancer as well. So it's like, that's a really, like intense thing that they both had in common, like they both lost a parent to cancer. Very young, very We close. Yeah. Mmm, together. I'd imagine that probably bonds with them. Yeah. And Austin is very sweet. He goes to the performance and he tweets.
You don't want to miss hashtag grease live. So proud of Vanessa Hudgens. And everyone involved. It's incredible. And then he also treated. Wow. Oh God bless Vanessa. Hudgens singing worse things had me in tears. Just brilliant explanation. #Grease live wound capitalized. Yeah, that's so sweet. Oh my God. He's so supportive. I know like some sad that they're gonna break up. I know. So for Valentine's Day, 26 and 29. Oh, Vanessa and Austin took a trip to Arizona's konkani do
national forest. And she posted a photo to her Instagram with their names and heart that they carved into the right of Rock. I remember that. Yeah Scandal because apparently that's illegal not supposed to do that. That's like defacing. You know. Yeah. Natural and preserve lie and gods like they got in trouble. Find or something. Yeah the penalty can be up to five thousand dollars and six months in jail you could get Charlie. Oh my God.
That's why I thought they were so Carefree because they Hosted a I know they don't know what's going on. I've been in love but I think about it, that's hard throwing me. That's so cute. So somebody snitch on them. Someone must have beliefs just because they posted a know what still someone would have had right now. Yeah. So she deleted the post in them to pay a thousand dollars. That's not too bad. No she's that's like yeah. She's got the money. Yeah we know.
Be horrible for - yeah. Be like losing my shit but I would cry about it. You know what, though, like a thousand dollars. Like I always say this? Yeah, it doesn't always a lot but like, let's say you owned a car which I don't you might have I have? Yeah. And like, that's what whenever I have to spend a lot of money. I'm like, you know what, if I
still had a car right now? It would probably, I'd probably hear some weird noise and have to go to the auto shop, and then have to spend a thousand dollars on something stupid. Yeah, so true, true. True even for Just normal people. Like sometimes you have to spend that and like, don't be have to spend, don't be hard on yourself. Like, if you just had to spend a lot of money, it's okay. You're going to be okay? Yeah, sometimes it happens. Anyway, so July 2016.
Ashley Tisdale gave an interview to people and was asked about Vanessa and Austin and she said, I mean, it's great because also is my best friend since way before they got together. So it's just nice to have your two best friends in a relationship. I hope that's true. Oh yeah, this is a, she's like more loyal than the boys than she is to Vanessa, but maybe that's not the case may be anyways. 2017. Austin is in New Zealand filming the Shannara Chronicles. Hmm, you ever hear of it.
What's it called? The Shannara. Chromosome me neither and Vanessa is back in. Actually, I think she might be in London filming something. I'm not really sure what What? And she's asked by People magazine, had they maintain their relationship long distance? And she said, just communication communication is key. I think that if anything's bothering you don't hold it in, always, bring it up and just talk about it on censor yourself and just be open.
Mmm Maya's. She also posted a picture of them kissing to her Instagram with the caption missing this guy hashtag man. Crush Monday, hashtag long distance sucks. Oh 2019. Austin is also asked about having a long-term relationship again, and he says it's difficult for me to even put into words. What that girl means to me. She inspires me so much every day. And I absolutely adore her. No, so now they've been together eight years. Yeah, I think so.
Wow. Then this 19 is the year that Austin Butler is cast to play Elvis in the baz luhrmann biopic, and Vanessa tweets, I am like all caps over. Like there's like, you know, extra letters the fucking Moon. Wow! I can't, we heart face her face, her face her face emoji. Oh my God. So proud of my honey bee. Like it's like all these extra letters exclamation points and she then also co-host the Kelly and And show with Ryan Seacrest, and she talks about how she
manifested this role for him. So, I had to play what, but I just, it's okay. Can I bring this article? I read. Yeah, I was reading for pleasure, The Hollywood Reporter and I was reading about the casting for the Elvis. Biopic that baz luhrmann is directing and it speaks of how important it is to cast the perfect person named Austin Butler. And baz says, I knew I I couldn't make this film at the
casting was an absolutely right. We searched thoroughly for the actor that can evoke the singular, natural movement and vocal qualities of Elvis Presley. And I'm like, wow, this guy, Austin Butler. What a big break for him? What a good, that's good news for this guy. Who is this guy? And then I read another article that this is your boyfriend.
Yeah. And he's always been so inspiring to me like his work ethic is its compared to knowing so I'm always just like so in awe of him and I'm so excited that this is happening for him and it's so crazy because last December, we were driving along and we're listening to Christmas music. And then Elvis Presley Christmas song came on and he just died. His hair dark. He's a natural light. I'm blonde.
And I was looking at him and he was singing along, and I was like, babe, you need to play Elvis. My, I don't know how, but, like, I'm serious, you need to play him and then January, he was sitting at the piano, he's a musician and he's playing and singing. And I'm like, I don't know how, but we need to figure out how you can play Elvis. Like, I don't know how to get right, sir, like what we do, but like, this is your calling to play him. It is your calling and then that
next month, we get a call you. In is doing the Elvis by OPEC and I was like babe. This is it. This is it. This is you put it out into the universe and then it came back. I know, I know it's crazy. You gotta be careful with what you say, like, not so much weight. So what does what does babe look? Like my honey, we're you calling babe so I figured we could all come on. Babe what you said. He is tall, he's like six foot. He Towers over me is that? I'm sorry.
A student of their enough 6-foot people in the world. You know, I think that's great that you sort of willed it in that moment, what a great partnership to. So, we'll congratulations. Babe babe. It's happening. Oh, that's really sweet. But see, even the way Ryan was like, who is this guy? Yeah, no one knew. I knew it was, but most regular people did not know who Us in Butler was He was known kind of has been as items, boyfriend? Yep, there's a blind item at
this time. No one knows for sure who it's about but it says, yeah, she's genuinely happy for him. That he booked the role but she also sees this as her second big break, they have the same publicist. So this is easy. The plan is for her to stick to him like glue and take advantage of every photo. Op, Lucy boynton's got nothing on her.
So, like the article was basically saying like Vanessa's career really pan out the way that it probably should have or she expected it to and this kind of a case. Like, at this time, she's not really doing a lot of respectable things. Like there's, she's not even close like, yeah. Well, you're worthy stuff lately she's been doing like Hallmark Christmas me. Yeah, not that there's anything wrong with that but I don't know. Yeah. Maybe she wanted to be somewhere else.
Yeah. But honestly seems like she enjoys doing. Yeah. That's like true if she's having fun. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe she's also like awesome. But like, she's so much money that like, she doesn't need to take stupid little Parts. I know true, like she is probably so many royalties from The High School Musical franchise. Yeah. Yeah. No, same month. Vanessa pose for Austin's birthday again. And she says, to my love my other half my constant inspiration and supporter my
best friend. My everything 28 is going to be fire, my fire emojis and she also in October post to her grid, a throwback of Halloween, photos of her and Austin. And then in November, they're out and about and I lay together holding hands and the Vanessa heads to the UK to begin. Filming the princess switched switched. Again this is yeah and Austin. He goes to Australia to begin filming for Elvis and it's a quiet time. Like no one really knows what they're doing.
It's the holidays and December. They don't post anything together. People are like, what's going on with them, but it is reported that when Austin is in all of it, Are in Australia filming Elvis. That he is spotted a few days after Christmas getting cozy. I'm sure. That means with his co-star in the film Olivia dejong plays, Priscilla. Oh, and the film. So what did Super like, mmmm? But I don't know. Cozy means sometimes like cozy could be innocent. I don't know.
Yeah. What if they're just sitting in a restaurant Booth together? Exactly. Yeah. I don't know. And then it's 2020. A source tells people that Austin and Vanessa have split but the Reps deny to comment. So they don't ever officially even confirm that they broke up so they could feed still together. The Source adds they really loved each other and have been through some of their toughest life moments together.
They had talked about an engagement before they split up, busy work, schedules, and travel. Definitely put a strain on the relationship. They were a wonderful couple and it's really sad that it didn't work out. Another source adds of the NASA is doing. Okay. So obviously this is like someone who dresses like Circle. Yeah, they say The Break-Up isn't easy, but she's not one to sit around and mope, she's living it up and having fun. She seems really happy and excited about life, honestly.
Hmm, really yeah. Wow, but so like I feel like an interesting thing is that like Vanessa really elevated his status Yeah, and literally the second he gets a big break role. I do this. It seems to me like he dumped her. Yeah. Probably. And that is annoying because it's like you lived in her house. Yeah. He's paying for you. She's supporting you openly like she's literally making you more famous. Mmm. And then you get a big break. The role that you finally
wanted. She's doing a little harm Mark movies. Yeah, and now we were like, oh, I can get anybody. Exactly. She Coulda gotten anybody two years ago, but she was with you. She had a genuine connection with you. I wonder what his to himself explanation for is, I know. Yeah, maybe it did just run its course, but it just seems like, wow. Like we've heard this story before. I know, don't men do this.
It's like, Vanessa, like now, like spoiler, like she's with a baseball player who nobody knows. Mmm, nobody knows this guy and he's even now in the minor league the network doesn't care about The social status of her boyfriend, true, but like that, I feel like Austin cares about the social status of who he's dating. No, no. I know not like maybe there's more to it. But so then there's also a blind item. What does it say? It says the subject line said this was sediment submitted to
do mwah. The subject line is. You ain't nothing but a dot dot, dot freeloader. It says a certain actor who has a highly anticipated new movie coming out recently gave an interview to a magazine where he talked about buying a house with a special room in it. The actor never bought shit. He lived off, his very famous girlfriend for years and she Bought it. Actually she paid for everything and he may have never paid for one thing. This would all be fine.
However, the way in which their relationship ended is rumored to be in Fidelity's on his part, which make him appear to be super ungrateful of his exes generosities. I hope not and I hope not to, but at the same time it's like Okay, like if she's paying for him, as he is, he's supposed to be with her forever. That's, I know. Yeah. Like, what he's? Not a slave. Exactly. And it's like, well, now he's gonna have his own money, but
it's like, yeah, go over there. Just because you can now afford to live life. Like if you really wasn't happy in the relationship, ended it before people do that. It's shitty, but people definitely do that. This writer. I love Donna tartt, I love her. She's amazing But apparently she did that, she lived with her boyfriend for like a long time, like five years or something. You didn't have a job the whole time. So you can like, work on her book.
And then, once she got it sold and made a lot of money. She broke up. That's awesome. I hope I don't think so. What about Coachella? Yeah, I'm looking for something really affectionate, I don't know. He's like hooking up with her all the time. You know. Like must have paid for one thing. I hope so I don't I can't imagine he paid for a nothing. I know that crazy, I mean he probably had money too. Thanks Carrie Diaries. But you know, I could see being her though. I'm being pissed.
Like, oh my God. Yeah, I did so much for you. I think it's really obvious that he broke up with her because then immediately she starts posting thirsty Thursday pictures every single week. Yeah, I remember this happening to me too. Yeah, this is obvious. Yeah, right after a breakup she did. I know if you did the breaking up, I really do. I'm think you'd be doing this. You wouldn't care? Yeah, no. So this is a question to ask the
audience. He ever posted something online in hopes, that an ex or someone would see it. Probably, I probably have. Yeah, I remember know, like specifically because I've probably done it multiple. I think, like not, not specifically, to be like. Look at me in this outfit or whatever. Just to be like, Oh I'm living my life. Yeah, me too, but sometimes life is carried on. Yeah, it's you really have to be careful with that because I know I feel like heaven seemed obvious.
Yeah, and I think like sometimes when people start posting a lot, it just means that they're really not doing well. Yes, especially if it's like a very partying nature like, oh no, the ones that shoot, Like she was posting Throwbacks from Spring Breakers and just like really like skinless for choosing. Seems like she was going through it. Yeah. Like a Halloween theme. Yeah. Even when it wasn't October, huh?
It's really she's black and white picture is like I think she was surprised like really heartbroken It looked like she was living her best slave but yeah. So then covid happens. And Vanessa does the whole like mmm-hmm? It's sad but inevitable gonna die. Maybe I shouldn't be saying. And then another one, it's a crazy time. It's a crazy crazy fast. I've moved on. When did they break up? They broke up in January. So, it's now January, 2019 or 2020. Mmm, that must've been tough for her.
Like she just had a breakup of like the longest relationship. I know is a very long relationship, then covid hits and Coachella isn't going to be happening and one thing she was looking forward to she's just she's doing. Instagram live and she's in a unstable place in her life.
Clearly from her incision, she's very emotional already, not doing well and then covid have a heart and she's you're like this is why I never want to do a live because you're just going to say stuff and we can out of this podcast. Efficient amount of her about the Alec. It's a live. She doesn't know what she's saying. Maybe I shouldn't be saying.
Yeah, I caught herself. Sometimes you just say something and then you're like, I don't even know why I just said, yes, I'm like, you just took the opportunity. We all put our foot articles, written about it. Yeah, so mad and back in the height of covid. A were mad about something. They were memos. They were, there's nothing else. There is nothing else. That was like the big news. Yeah, like Pepe Le Pew. Getting cancelled. He was like, oh my god.
Well, this Gunk Carlos. Why did he like old-fashioned cartoon? Yeah. But because he was like, Often was useful to small earring to the female. Oh God Kong kissing her. I guess somewhat rapey Vibes. Yeah. Not literally. Yeah that's stupid. But then people are fighting like leave Pepe alone. Those are like a distraction from this. People commenters are still one of them with high heels or I feel like she only likes have sneakers now, I feel like he
remember, I don't know. Like I hope that was like a temporary thing to think that like I'm on the side of like let's keep her sex. Yeah. Everyone these days is like oh people are having less sex than ever by living in a sexless. A yeah they also It'll keep the high they made on what's very less sexy Bugs. Bunny's girlfriend, Jessica Rabbit. No different one different. What's her name? I don't know. Bunny. Yeah, I remember her name. I'm drawing a blank but they made her less 60. Yeah.
In the new Space Jam by am I kidding? I guess it's for kids but our high heels even that sexy means an Eminem. I know you just was and then she had like Long eyelashes was it what does that even do for kids voice? Yeah, you know I never thought you sucked like as a kid it's what she's a woman. Yeah it ain't pretty woman. I am not even like to think about the word sexy when I was little hmm like I don't know why I used to make her more like masculine and honest with you.
I don't know. He's only two female, I'm a anyways. Anyway, All Eminem's taste, the same, is that what color they are? They should make some more personalities. May be too many but like, when you go to the M&M store, there's like many colors. Mmm. Yeah. Me and my friend Marissa got in a fight about which Eminem's were the main characters? Oh, I said red and yellow, right? That's what I said. Yeah. No, it's red and blue. Oh, I don't even know.
Blues personality and know I think red and yellow or the Definitely the oh yeah characters. They have their own do. Oh yeah, they do all the others are. Just kind of. Yeah I think blue is like an old man. Yeah red and yellow. We have we my family friend yell is Christmas. Yeah. Is there a couple in there? Uncertain, life is over, you know, yeah, really good marketing.
But anyway, so yeah, so covid happens and so like that sucks for Vanessa and then that Elvis movie is halted and awesome could go back to Los Angeles. But he decides to stay down on dirt and Australia. Yeah, well actually, I'd rather you could go back but I thought Australia was really strict with that. They were sewing the wickets. I don't know if they really I'd have let him and that's like member Tom Hanks was down there with this, but the Copa Ananda.
Yeah, I usually listen to some Australian podcasts and I think it ended but they were talking a lot about the pandemic. It sounded really strict like they did not let them go into other states is. Yeah. Yeah, which is nuts. We didn't have that here, like, border patrol for Stace. No. But remember we couldn't go to like, as recently as like, A year and a half ago when we went to Washington. Oh yeah. Go to entire town. Yeah. It's like okay, point. I was it nearby? Oh yeah, yeah.
Okay. Yeah, we couldn't get into the town. That's crazy. So this is how it was in Australia. Yeah. Anyway so he decides to stay in Australia for months and was this a source who said this? I said he's basically turned his apartment into a detective. Seen a lot Charlie. And It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Unearthing a vast, mail room conspiracy, just images of Elvis everywhere from every time period says Butler. Owe him.
A said it I think the film would have been very different if we had started shooting at that point and I'm very grateful. I had the time to let myself marinate. So she really started getting deeper and deeper into the character with all this time to prepare. He must have felt like I really have to prove Myself because like this opportunity might not come again.
Very big shoes to fill really Elvis and so people think that he's dating his Elvis, co-star, Olivia De jonge because there are photos of them together on a beach but they're not really kissing or anything so it's like they're just maybe hang out on a beach. Like they might not know anybody else in Australia too but they really were. I mean he got someone's the character, he's probably Isola. Yeah. So yeah like that's I'm going to fast forward to August of that year of the next year.
Austin's. Photograph kissing Lily, do rose dab. A few months after she wakes up like Timothy. Oh, I'm like that. Yeah. He is like, you know, me saying that he cares about his status, like mme with Lily Rose. Stop feel set up in a way. It seems a little complicated met her. Yeah, you know, yeah, that's the kind of person people date when they want a little article written about them. And Timothy ciamis, kind of like his contemporary like competition.
Like serious actor. Think all the association's my God. So, true. Now my turn? Yeah. Timmy and Lily Rose like literally dated or if it was just for PR. So hmm well yeah, I think that was PR in her because it's just, I don't know. I would say she's a famous name, salsa Johnny Depp's daughter or just seems too perfect in December of that year, is one of Vanessa begins dating, her baseball player, boyfriend cold Tucker who she meets through a zoom meditation Wow, I love that
school. Yeah, she deemed him and like she thought I was really cute. Oh, I started dating and I just love that like she doesn't care. And you know what I'm saying though? Because remember in the Zac Efron episode, she said that it was really hard for her to date somebody who all these girls were throwing themselves at. Hmm, so it's kind of interesting. She keeps taking people who are less and less famous It's true.
I'm sure. I mean I don't know what the baseball player looks like, I'm sure he's cute. I mean, Austin I'm sure got attention from women, but yeah, he is cute. And you know what's interesting is at first, you're not going to see it. Okay, he kind of looks like awesome Butler, really, huh? The see if it has the same face here, I'll show you. Like, I don't know if I'm looking too much into it, let me see. Let me see. I feel like you're not gonna see it.
At first, there's like something about him. Yeah, I feel like he has a long face. Yeah. Austin. All the proportions seem similar like his cheeks and John. You have a face shape. Is kind of similar. Wow, he is cute. Yeah, he looks like a nice guy. He's tall to yeah long hair does yoga. Yeah meditation I think Austin is kind of spiritual to like hmm. I listen to this podcast of Vanessa where she's a guest and she was talking about spirit and everything like that. Like really into that.
I like that too. So yeah and she's been with that guy ever since and they're actually now engaged wow. Looking for her, I don't go for her. She Found love again. I mean that's honestly traumatic to go through a breakup with someone after that nine years and like that's not not for nothing, some a lot of those are some baby-making years, I know I'd like to say that but I feel like it would be probably really scary. Like, am I going to find somebody if you want to have
kids? So who who date's for nine years? I mean, okay, sorry some people don't Don't want to get married, that's okay. But still I just feel like you would expect them to have gotten engaged. Mmm, crazy. Because it is, like, where is this going? Yeah, but it seems like he didn't really. He wasn't really looking for that. Probably, mmm. He was more focused on his career. But I don't know why you had to
pick and choose. I know why do you like, why can't you still be married and also focused on your Corona? I especially feel that about, I don't know. I was kind of regular nine-to-five people like okay, everyone works. Yeah I know I don't get when people, I'm focusing my career make them what. Yeah, exactly. Obviously. All of us are working 40 hours. Yeah, exactly. I guess, if you're working like more than 40 hours and I don't have time for really? Yeah, maybe.
But So how is a relationship going to hold you back anything like being the Working World? You're like I need to be in a relationship because everyone in the office is talking about. Yeah, we did this, we did that. We also have those holiday parties where you need a plus-one or else you feel awkward. So, I've never been to one of those. I went to when I brought Shannon. Hi Shannon, she's not listening. Anyway, listen to this one. Maybe.
Hi Caitlin. Oh, so then in 2022 and may also gave an interview for GQ magazine. And he said over the course of filming, the reporter said, over the course of filming, his relationship of nine years with fellow former teen star, Vanessa Hudgens. Also, Oh ended. Hmm, life is full of changes. We've got to find a way to constantly be evolving and
growing. He non-answers, politely when I bring it up, mmm, and when describing Austin, the director of Elvis baz luhrmann said Elvis was an intensely spiritual person and I think Austin has a really spiritual quality to him. He is a very sensitive and big inner life. He's very lovely on the outside. You know, there's deep thinking going on on the inside, that's kind of attractive. It is attractive, and I'm supposed to be mad at him right
now. So then this is awkward and met Austin, and Vanessa, both attend the Met Gala, and Austin, attends, with his new girlfriend, Kaya Gerber, who, which this is another like, oh my gosh, like so contrived, how did you meet? I have Gerber because she's another so called PR girlfriend people say? Yeah, I don't know. She's she just seems to be put together with people like even though she's Cindy Crawford's daughter. Yeah. I feel like she's really trying to make a name for herself.
Yeah, I know. You know, she's trying to fully Rose depth, exactly Daughters of famous people and they're trying to be models. Exactly. They're trying to be a listers. So they're done with like people who are up-and-coming. Yeah, hmm. Yeah, I could see Kai Gerber. Dating Timothy shall a Man Meet Austin? I would rather see you with Someone we can't even predict right now. Yeah, I don't know. I would go breasts alone.
So also, Kaya is 20, Austin is 30 and it's so interesting because there's actually this photo of Vanessa Hudgens meeting Kyogre when she's little. Oh, my good little girl. Vanessa is like, that's freaky. Yeah. And so, but yeah, they're all at the Met Gala and Vanessa is working the red carpet for Vogue. She's co-hosting it. So she's interviewing people.
Yeah. And Austin's there is a guest and it's kind of awkward because Austin is being interviewed by Vogue by different reporter and he's talking to the reporter and they're pretty goes. All right that's the cast of Elvis and now back to Vanessa Vanessa. Who just had to watch Austin, being interviewed and it's like, she's there was a red carpet person. Yeah. So a boyfriend of nine years is there with this new model? That's kind of insensitive. To be honest. It.
He debuted his new relationship. Sure. Wasn't intentional. I don't know. I probably knew enough it was going. What's he supposed to do? You know why? I don't know, but I think it's just unfortunate. It is unfortunate, but he didn't even Postman. Uh, so for four years through his Instagram, and then right away is getting Kya Gerber and did he post Kiger writers and so, you know, I don't know, I don't know. I'm just like, in my head. I feel like, what's he supposed
to do? I know you're right. She's at the baseball guy, really hope. She's happy. You're right. I don't know. I just don't really gonna tuck. I like no finesse. It's gonna be there. Yeah. Right, I can't go, right? I don't know if he didn't know, she's gonna work through. I know it's true. It's interesting because Kya gerbert is good friends. With Ashley Benson, who is another good friend of Vanessa Hudgens. They're all connected. Those Hollywood.
Yeah. So in September of Vanessa is asked about her past high-profile relationship. And she says, the public only sees so much. I've also been also like hurt and like, awesome and Zack likes. Okay. She says, the public only sees so much. I've also been through two very life changing relationships and no one really knows what happened except for me when I write my Memoir, I'll be, it'll be amazing. When, is that going to come out really cool.
I know she should do it 23 this year, Austin. In is doing a round table with fellow actors for The Hollywood Reporter. Like a lot of them are the actors that are nominated this year. Hmm. And he retells, the story of Vanessa manifesting the Elvis roll, but he was Vanessa his friend in it. What? Elvis was on your mind even before you were aware, there was gonna be a project with baz luhrmann, right?
It was only in the month before people always ask me, you know, have you for years, thought you look like Elvis or this or that? And I said, I only think I look that much like Elvis. But I never, I never really crossed my mind and then the month before I heard the buzzers making a movie, I was going to
look at Christmas lights. I told a story a couple times so they say, but you got out there We tell each other we're gonna have a little ah, yeah, help you need help like Christmas Christmas, Christmas lights and and there was an Elvis Christmas song on the radio. And I was at the front of mine and I was singing along my friend kind of looked over at me and goes you got to play Elvis. Wow.
And I said, I don't mean that's such a long shot through a what another one of those moments and then a couple weeks later Later, I was playing the piano and I never really sang for any of my friends or anything and that same friend was there, and I was playing the piano and she said, I'm serious, you got to figure out how you can get the rights to a script and write something and do Elvis is life this friend. I need them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll give you the number and and then and but still I didn't know Bears is making a movie and then a couple days after that, my agent called and said, so has lemon is making an Elvis film and the hairs stood. Lamar's. It was that, then made me go on. This is, I got its Everest. I don't know if I am good enough. I don't know if I have a shot at all, but I got to give it everything and so I started working on it.
Like I was doing a job and I hired a movement coach in a singing coach in a dialect coach, and I just started working, like, I had the job and then I met with bars after about a month. Oh my God, not just once not just twice or three times. Oh my God. Yeah. Why are you hanging out with his friend so much? Yeah, you can. My friend was there to live in her house? I don't know who said that was. Like, who's this friend? I know the same exact story. Here's he still loved her.
You think so. I thought that was like kind of narcissistic the color, it takes his friends. He's kind of disrespectful. I know. Like, you didn't even have to bring it up and you know, that's true. No, I've told you that he's obviously, trying to mask who it is. Hmm. I've witnessed that before, like my ex-boyfriend mentioning a friend and I'm like, Mmm. Yeah, your time or your ex and he was like, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. We literally already heard that
story be true. Well, that was and they weren't I'm guessing. They weren't really friends where they actually pretty good accurate description to say my friend. No, I don't think they are friends anymore. So I mean, I forgot to mention this but like one time, Vanessa also to her Instagram stories, shared something about narcissist like oh no. Stick personality is so people thought maybe that was. What about it? I forgot what it was.
I couldn't find the actual post but it was something about like the signs of a narcissist or something. So, people thought like that about Austin, I don't think they're in Greek terms, but I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Wow. So then an Instagram account in January. This is a couple days. Days. After this comes out, the recalls Vanessa friend, an Instagram account posted a screenshot of a page six article about Austin's accent being real and genuine.
With the caption that says, he went to the Lady, Gaga School of Oscar campaign acting and Vanessa commented on it, crying you, that's funny. Yeah. And then a couple days later Austin was getting a lot of Class, for Kang Vanessa his friend, and in an interview with the Los Angeles Times. He says, that's right. I was with my partner at the time we'd been together for so long and she had this sort of Clairvoyant moment and so I really owe her a lot for believing in me.
Awkward. No, and yeah, as recently, as February Vanessa got engaged occult soccer after two years of dating and She posted on Valentine's Day, Real Men. Real magnetic. Love is out there. What? A journey it was to get here, but so worth it to get my forever. We I'm happy. She found love again, it's crazy because, like, at one point she wrote that Austin was the love of her life love. Oh my life. People can really believe that's on his love of their life and
then they're not, I know. It's kind of scary. I think you can have multiple you can but I wonder how Austin feels like is I mean there's no he have another love of his life. He's think you still didn't car Gerber. I'm not sure how deep can that? I don't think I'm wrong. Maybe I'm Wrong. Maybe to me that seems like PR mmm. I theme song is in the Elvis movie. Yeah. Are You Lonesome Tonight? Yes. Elvis.
Did a cover of that song but the reason we have so I've never said this on the show The version we have is by Henry birds from the 1920s and it's out of copyright. So yeah, that's why we have it all the ones I tried to use that song on Tick Tock and they said that it was a violation of copyright or something. Has what's known as we're done? Know your stuff like? Yeah, I found out about it on a website that's dedicated to every year saying what is now in
the public domain? Yeah, that'll be fun. And like 40 years when like would Elvis songs be public today. Probably yeah, wow, wow. So that is Austin. And Vanessa I am so sad how it turned out but I guess it seems like things are going For them. I hope. Yeah, as it'll go back together. It's not zero, I didn't but she is engaged. Yeah, but pretty low. Trigger something for him. I feel like it slow though. Actually. He didn't even process. The Break-Up we have.
No, we don't know that maybe he was already done with it. Probably. I think they won't get back together. I think. No, but it's like 2%. I'm gonna go higher and say no. Okay. Two. Yeah, I think it's not it's not crazy. It's not important. If she's in love with Colt, great. He's not going to get cast in a big movie. Like he, I think I think it's nice. He's getting a non-actor. Yeah. He's not trying to make it in
the business, you know. Yeah. He seems n from one of very little overhead of him happy together. Yeah, I'm happy for her. Can't wait to see the pictures of them gonna be beautiful. I wonder if Austin felt in the shadow of Zac Efron and the beginning. At least maybe because it looks like. I feel like people couldn't get over the NASA for really long. Yeah, you know, possibly Wait, he's going to be in Doom, right? Yeah, Timothy Shaw and me, they
really are contemporaries. Yeah, what about Lily Rose? Depp. I know, fight about it. Yeah, I don't think either. No, I don't want an actress. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was in the king with Timothy, but I don't know if she's been in anything else. She did a very small role in that but the trailer made it look like it was way bigger, really? Yeah, they do that. Sometimes she was in like once you do that all the time. Well Mal, who's next week?
I don't even know. Okay, should I just commit to it now? Ah, okay. I'll gotta just do it. The couple that I'm doing. I've wanted to do for a while. One of the members is a brother of somebody that we've already covered on the show. Okay. And it involves somebody, it's a tumultuous relationship and it involves question other person involves. I don't even know how to describe this. Somebody who was in a role.
Alongside Ashley Tisdale. Mmm, it's like you're more Disney episode if it's comes to be hard. Hmm, I know who it is for a different episode. I really have Serge yet. So maybe this weekend alone. Well, thank you guys so much for listening. We love you. Got a lot planned for this podcast and really appreciate you listening. Get back together next week.