27. When Robert Pattinson Met FKA Twigs

Are You Lonesome Tonight? Miss me tonight. Are you sorry? We drifted does your mate. Hey guess my gosh we're doing it. Hi we're back. Welcome to significant lovers. I almost had another bio time. Right? Those are old podcast but I'm sure there's a few another vital to highlight listeners joining us today. Our boy, we're back talking about our yet, we Robert Pattinson. We're back to Our Roots. Yeah I know I've been thinking about him lately.

Really thinking how is he? You know I know yeah I don't know. I'm not as Captain right now. It's yeah, Rob. So you know, we're getting back into it. Back to Our Roots. Robert, Pattinson and FKA twigs. That's today's episode. We kind of knocked out the episode right away. Yeah, we're calomel. I'm Kelly. Yeah, I'm not sure if this is your first episode. Thanks for joining us. Yeah. And we're gonna let loose this episode. Yeah. Yeah. We're deciding it. Make it a great day.

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Or you can forget about it and accidentally pay us through 10 years. Just kidding. Just kidding. Yeah. So should be just get in, just hop on excite. I'm really excited about this. Because, I mean, yeah, it's robber barons in Mel and I have been obsessed with him and Twilight since we were like in middle school, he's still my biggest celebrity crush. No, it's I my God. It stresses me out, to be honest with you, like I was so obsessed with Rob and Kristen Stewart. Yep.

But like, really robbed that. I feel like I have had to take breaks from him because it actually has been Only at times to think that he doesn't know me and yeah but not this game too much. Yeah I know that I'm a stalker but there was one point in my life where I knew where Rob was every single day. That's awesome. I knew exactly like I don't know what he was doing but I see you cat. Just sneeze.

But yeah, like I always knew what city he was in what he was up to. Yeah, but I've been a lot more distance from him lately. I know me too well, so this episode about him and FKA twigs, who spoiler? He's no longer dating. Yeah, he's now with Suki Waterhouse but we we I think you should cover them. Okay. And then we will know what he's up to now. Yeah. Yeah, a Trilogy, a Trilogy. Yeah, so we've done. Rob. And Kristen before. Yes, on our old podcast. Yeah.

I'm gonna be released that minute. It's put that together but I don't know when we're going to do them. Maybe you guys could just listen to it on another bite but maybe you're just too lazy to go find it and it will share it. But anyway, yeah this. So this relationship happened after his extremely high profile Everybody knew it relationship with Kristen Stewart. Hmm, hang on. So this was, this is a big couple. I mean other Kristin, grab Kristin word but also Robin if gay Twigs.

I feel that if, you know, Rob and Kristen anything about them, they were like, really private secret for most of their relationship and I feel like jumping ahead. But this was like, the first time I was kind of like being really public, you know what I mean? Yeah. And also like it took a couple years, post Kristin. Yeah for him to like be with somebody else. Was it right? Wasn't it like at least three years. No. Oh well it wasn't it felt like a year. I hear ya but publicly.

No not. When do they go public? I'm sure you'll get it. Okay, hold your horses, okay? Okay, so Robert Pattinson can't believe we're talking about and FKA twigs. And as we always we always describe them in three words. Hmm, my three words to describe them is fashionable. You can kind of tell from the outside fun. I like that and uncertain. I feel like we often ended like the - loving caring We cute dangerous. So next time I should start with the bad. Yeah, talk said yeah.

So a little bit about them if you don't know much about them. Well guys, I gotta be honest, I'm not gonna do Rob's back story, really? Yeah. We if you want To know about him on our old podcast another by Twilight. We did a whole episode about him. Yeah. His own life. It's episode 43. I wrote it down which came out April 14th 2020. So if you scroll back 2020, it's very detailed Arie. Listen to it recently. And yeah, I feel like we covered a lot. We got like everything in there.

Yeah, like so prep school days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I guess I will just say like he was born, May 13th 1986 today. He's 36. Wow, oh my God, I know he was born in London, he grew up in Barnes England, he's in English, he has two sisters, two older sisters, that's kind of trippy to me because like I still think of Rob has 21, I know in some ways because that's how old he was when he was cast. It's fucked up. I'm passing. I know. Time is flying. I mean, how would you describe

Rob? If someone doesn't really know him that well, like they've only seen him in movies. I would say he's goofy. People don't know that he's very, very good. Really goofy sarcastic, aloof. Yeah, like never serious. No, no, never. That might be a problem in relationships, although he is serious about his work. Yeah, very serious. Serious was workbook. It's like, he doesn't let it show. Mmm, and when he gets interviewed, actually key, Know what he's doing, but he's

humble. Yeah, I'm very hungry. Yeah. Sweet. I feel like he's a sweet guy like, yeah? Really, he's, he's cool too. So he knows a lot of things. I've heard rumors that he had addiction problems. Yeah, I hate to say that, that's like God, I feel like there's gonna be saying that addiction to what? I don't know. It's possible. It's possible rumors. Swirling, so yeah, you guys know, Rob Hughes and Twilight now. He's been in the Batman. Man, you did a great job.

I think he plays music 2 plays guitar, he sings but I feel like he chose kind of not to do that. Just because of his acting career, you know. Yeah. I almost feel to like Rob has not to psychoanalyze him but a fear of like vulnerability and like like he kind of hides behind acting, but because he's always so jokey. He would really struggle to like put his music out there and like let the world into his heart. You know what I mean? Especially since he's so private, I can see that.

Wow, I think that brings true to me we don't know, him know. But what I do you do you know what guys? I've just gotta say. Like there's some people that I kind of like observe just from online like you pick up Vibes you do and then it turns out to actually be true. Yeah, I'm having to be several X. Yeah. Or like you can just kind of tell someone how to break up even though they didn't say it. Yeah. Oh yes, hello. Oh my God. Okay.

Let's stop saying that because like we're checking in who's posting, who's not? That's not true. There was someone I'll tell me later in my life that didn't post a couple thing and I was like, wait interesting. Give me a hand. Now I don't know. I'll do it later. I'll do that.

Um yeah. But he is a musician, so it's like him and twigs have that in common actually even though he's not like publicly a musician, he did randomly release a song like the last year and then know, we're like two days after we ended our and it was very confusing and hard to understand him. I think it was him though. Yeah, no me too but that works with your theory that he's afraid. To being vulnerable because it was kind of weird and hard to decipher.

So So he did that. That's that's the only way you can do it is in a strange way. Yeah. No. Yeah. So I've K. Twigs her real full name is Thalia. It's how you said that? Yeah, I think so Thalia debrett Burnett. But Twigs was her nickname even before she was a musician because of her. Twigs is her nickname because of yeah, her limbs or joins and she was like a dancer, she is a Dancer going up. And yeah, that's her nickname dancers. Got like dance nickname.

Yeah, that she looked like her arms and legs were Twigs. Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. I couldn't get that out and I read it Rob calls her Twigs too, so I guess I'll call her that. Wow. I think it is like really her nickname. Yeah, I know. I was kind of confused about what I should call her throughout this episode. Yeah, that's so interesting. I guess like if it was her nickname before it was even her Her stage name and yeah brand.

But that's interesting. Like a romantic partner calling you by your stage? Yeah, I'm sure. Like I wonder like Lady Gaga for instance, at what point in her relationships do people stop calling her Gaga and start calling her Stephanie. I'm sure she still introduces herself to people so, maybe she says like, I'm Stephanie, I don't know. But it does seem like it was a nickname first, so I don't know, but I don't know if I should be calling. Thalia throughout this episode.

Let's do it Twigs. Yeah, okay. I mean no one calls her that. Okay. Yeah, okay, yeah. But she is a singer. She her music is very electronic distorted. R&B of Cena called, like alternative pop. Also, for the first hint, first time I came across this Sub-genre of music called PBR and be 0. So it was kind of like hipster our MVP br br beer. Yeah. So she she was born in 1988 January 16th, in Cheltenham England. So she's 35 today, but she was in her 20s.

During this whole story, her mother is English with Spanish ancestry. Three and her mom was a dancer and a gymnast very similar to her. Her father was Jamaican and a musician. So she kind of followed in their footsteps. But I read that she didn't meet her father until she was 18 really. However, I watch some interviews with her and she talked about like her dad driving her friend home from school and it sounded like a very young story.

So I was kind of confused. Yeah, I don't know what the truth is, but Yeah she went to a private school st. Edward's school which is very Posh apparently but it was on scholarship and from a young age he did ballet and opera singing and she said she was the only mixed-race kid in her school. She often felt very out of place.

She was a serious dancer age 17. She moved to London to pursue dancing and enrolled in the Brit school and she became a backup dancer actually for people like Jesse Jake. Kylie Minogue and Ed Sheeran. I just had to ask. Why does Ed Sheeran have back? Yeah, I guess. That's what that song was like 27 to ago. She was already. And if yes early stuff was like, I know give me that like, yeah, I guess maybe it like, lyrical

dancer. Yeah, I mean, yeah she does do a lot of like they're go modern type of dance. What were his songs back then I was like, They say she's in the class A team. Cheers, just swaying to the, I don't know, but when she was 18, she started working on slick a year later. He started working on her own music writing songs. And working with local producers in London, London Town and she'd already done opera singing. Apparently. So she'd been doing it.

Her musical name was Twigs too but I guess. There's already a musical act called the twigs and they asked her to change their name changed her name, so she became FKA twigs and we talked about this in our Robert. Pattinson episode. I think, but she claims, FKA doesn't stand for anything, that's random letters, but usually, I've Ka means formerly known as why would she just not say it's fine, what does it matter?

Like Yeah by coincidence. It's yeah, formerly known as let's sure because she literally was formerly known as good, but she claims it's just random letters. They didn't mean any, you don't think she's joking when she says that? I didn't seem like it, that's interesting. Cause she kept talking about you like that just like masculine feminine letters or whatever like she kept talking about it. So she's really thinking into the her claim that yeah I don't know.

CF is a boy kids a boy and a girl. Hmm. I don't know, I don't have that four letters, really don't know. I do think f is if I mean, maybe I have a little bit of it, it's just confusing for me because my name starts with the case. Oh yeah, feels feminine to me. Yeah, I get that like to me and I was a girl but my twin brother is named as so he's like, OS is a boy. This is like the most feminine better than Terry s goes with seven in 97. Yeah, well because like a seven starts. That's true.

But nine yesterday. Mmm, and they're all very dark to me. They don't have colors to anyway, Twigs. First released music on bandcamp ep-1 it was called, and then later Shady P2 which got great reviews on Pitchfork. This is like how I first knew about her because my boyfriend at the time was like, obsessed with pitchfork and read it every day. So he played FKA twigs. Um, and then her fourth studio album, lp1 with the song too weak.

Weeks came out August 2014 and Time Magazine and The Clash. Ranked it as the best album of the Year. Wow. So she already before, Rob What kind of around the same time but before Rob was doing well, yeah, with her music, I mean, she wasn't like household name or anything but you know, people are respected it. Yeah, yeah. And I have no idea who she dated before Rob. No it's not. No. But I figure it out. How old was she? When they started dating? I wrote it down. Let's see.

Let's see if she was 26. Oh, my age now. Yeah. I know every when you look up websites, I could have today or like you know, I was doing everything guys. I was like FKA twigs, who did read it like searching everything in. It always started with our pants and so I'm sure she'd dated some yeah, but we don't know, we don't know. So the Rob and Kristen break up for good. The second time was a burger place. The last time at least publicly was by made 2013. Yeah. Around his birthday.

Yeah. That's when it was is over. He seemed to be like, seeing some girls after that, really July 2013. So like two months later, he was spotted with Riley Keough. Oh, yeah. Who knows what happened? That was a long rumor but probably something maybe, but she was friends with Kristen as well because and also keep Harry. Yeah, they've denied things they've denied that for a long time. Very weird. Okay. But this smell, I never saw this before. I don't know.

Why hasn't it but also jul 2013. Dean, there's a picture of him kissing. No, I can't this Mystery Woman. He's standing next to. He's standing next to Jesse Eisenberg and Mia. Wasikowska was his co-star maps to the stars and I don't know who she is. But here, so it's me. Like who is that? And look at Jesse, I didn't face in this picture. He's like groom like oh my God, I know I've never seen the Mila

Kunis has. I know wait, I thought it looked like, um, We'd this is crazy because the body language is kissing like it's almost like a pack like as if I know kissed her before, maybe it was just a hello pack or something. Maybe maybe, but it doesn't like it's on the lip. It does. Maybe she's Italian Maybe. Oh my God. Also, in September 2013, there's like rumors about him and Dylan pain. Oh yeah. Shauna's daughter. He's just living the single life.

Yeah, it's been a couple months after him and Kristin, and I think he was like, really Devastated. I don't think so. I feel like at that point he was like over. I feel like he was fed up. Yeah. But we don't know. We meet up him and Kristen metal. Yeah, yeah, they did. They did meet up again. I actually don't have that in this document, but I know that they did, but I feel like it was over.

But I remember reading articles at the time, that like, they had broken up, but it was like, for now, like they were like sources, thought they would get back together. Yeah, that's what they said. Yeah, to ease the big, did I know? No, it was just for us to we didn't lose our minds just for now. That's right now. They'll get back together, guys. Yeah. Um, but August 2014. Okay. So, yeah. It was like a year later. Have no idea. What happened that whole year. Yeah, that was me. 13.

And then, so a year later, August 2014, There were the first reports about him dating FKA twigs saying that they've been dating quietly for about a month. So I guess actually July 2014 and they were seen walking around New York together with his friend Tom Sturridge. We know he's been his best friend since childhood. Yeah, they go way back. Yeah, and I read that they'd been introduced to each other by a friend. I read that in a couple places and Daily Mail.

You can't really trust them but he said that Sienna Miller. Yep. Who introduced them because she's dating Tom Sturridge. Yeah, apparently Sienna is friends with Twigs. Must be there. All English. I'll. Yeah, yeah. The English people are tight like, they their Social Circles. I feel like go so far back, you know. Now, this is my question for the okay. Yes, what? Well, I'm sure there will be more. What do you think about introducing two friends, setting

up front? I think it's a bit risky. I don't know, I feel like It can't be two people that are super important to you. Yeah. I think one of them has to be kind of an acquaintance sir. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Because that can be messy. Why would you think? I just think it's cute. I mean, yeah, I really I hate this cute so much. So like any any way that you can be like meet someone organically or like a yeah. I think it's like really nice.

But yeah, it is risky. I think people do often meet through friends. I think it's nice but I guess like setting up Oh, yeah. And be purposeful. Yeah. I mean, I do sometimes feel like you meet someone and you're like, this person would be really great for a friend. Yeah, yeah. Hmm. A lot of pressure though,

there's a lot of pressure. There were also, I also read that According to enemy magazine troops, introduced to him from Florence Welch of Florence and machine and I do know that she's friends with Twigs but I don't know. Maybe they all knew each other somehow and I just gotta say, I feel like Rob and twigs make sense together like they're both. So fashionable. You gotta look up pictures guys. But really creative. I don't know. They just seemed like a good

fit. Yeah. Yeah, at least from the outside September 2014. They were seen holding hands and Venice, Beach, pictures of them. And this is from e-mf, they said, well, it's unclear how serious, they are a source coaster. Rob tells a news at FKA is recently moved to LA from New York and is staying with the actor at his home. My Insider also revealed that the couple is quite Goofy and has great chemistry together. Adding that Rob really likes her, I can't My German staying with 900.

We know that is like, really fast, like they've only been dating for two months. Yeah, that's so true. I don't know if you like officially lives there. If she's just said, yeah, ending time in LA and using that as her crash pad or something. But yeah, really quick and uh, I guess three months if they met in July. Mmm. But still. Yeah. So at this time there's every article I'll still mentions Kristen Stewart like at the bottom it's like her passing. These were together, she cheated

on him. They got back. I know. Yeah, I know still there always always competed together. Can't get over it and it must have just been so hard for both of them. Like, first of all he is reminded of his ex all the time constantly. Yeah. And even if he's over her, yeah, it makes it hard. Yeah. Cause you're like, I'm still associated with this person. Yeah.

And then for her. I mean, I feel like everybody is kind of jealous of your partner's X. So for her to be, just mentioned all the time every day. I don't know how often they like looked at magazines or Google themselves, but I mean, honestly, they probably did. Like, yeah, I find it hard to believe that celebrities, don't ya Google themselves. Every now none? Yeah, every now and then like, it would be like, you know, it's there. I know. Yeah. So Kristen is Still mentioned

all the time. October October. Is this, correct? I said, oh, no. Oh 2015. Ha 2014, Rob. And twigs are seen out and about in Paris together and they're just picture of Rob like laughing his head off. It's really cute. They went to apparently there were not mine. The Articles were hipster store called Harmony that had just opened that morning. The each bought a jacket Rob bought a t-shirt, then they went to the concept store. The library and he bought a hoodie. It must be fun.

Having never worries about money, you know, whatever you want. Just walking around buying clothes again to eat. They were like really on top of this story, an Insider said they looked really happy together laughing, most of the time, I guess you watch her perform that night in Paris and he was smiling while he sipped a beer. Then they went to Amsterdam where she had a show and then they were seen on the streets holding hands. Like already. I feel like he's being very

public. Yeah, with Kristen. I feel like they were always sneaking around. There's a couple pictures of them like on the streets together, you know? But I already feel like this one is more public. So interesting because like we on our last podcast would always discuss like like who was the reason why him and Kristin were so private, you know, is it him? Or was it her? And we came to the conclusion

that it was because of him. Because I do think he still is a lot more private than Kristen has also like he's back to being private. Yeah. Yeah, in his current relationship. Oh yeah. Me. Yeah. Because honestly, it did seem like he was more public about him and Kristin than It's in was at the time. Yeah, good luck. He was the one who would like, be a little bit like more touchy. That's true. Like, in pictures and like was the one who likes that stuff.

It's not adding up though, because sorry, jumping way ahead in life. But like now he's a Suki Waterhouse and they don't like go to events or anything, really. I mean, they just did for the first time time after dating for like years. Yeah. But him and twigs went to a lot of events together, maybe it's because Twigs got a lot of like hate for dating him. So he felt like he couldn't hide her something or like you to protect kind of Edward.

I don't know, it's so confusing. I guess every relationship is different but I feel like he's just acted so different, I know. Yeah, like it's really truly hard to know him. I have this sense. I've said this on the podcast, the past month, and so forth. How this sense that even like those closest to him? I don't know him. Hmm, I could see that to him, I almost think. Okay. Maybe he's kind of like going with the ladies lead, like maybe Kristen also want to be private.

Yeah, maybe Twigs didn't really care. I feel like Sookie but wouldn't Sookie. I know that doesn't make sense to me. I've confusing because she's very public, she wouldn't want to keep it as, you know, she's a little social climber. So it doesn't, I don't know. Yeah, fix me up at night, just kidding. But yeah. So they're out and about holding hands in Europe, very cute already, some Twilight fans, some very bad.

Twilight fans on the internet. Started seeing really racist, things about FKA twigs saying that he had traded down from Kristen and calling her ugly, which is terrible and that's so simple. I know that's like honestly. Stuff like really is annoying. I think that happens in like a lot of fandoms. Like there's crazy Taylor Swift. It's like, are you serious? Like, I know, I mean, I love dropping Kristen to like it is it? Yeah, you're a sane person. I know you wouldn't like bash

its new girlfriend. Like it was hard to see him dating someone else. It was like, you know, I know this is like oh my God I feel like we've gotten used to it now but at the time it It was hard to Grapple with my stomach like, okay, this is Oliver, this is really over but I would never attack somebody or like Resort of that like to me, I'm like, wow, like first of all, she's a beautiful woman talented. I'm like, okay that's amazing. He's dating someone really

great. I think if he was dating like I would have still never harass any yet, he dated at all. But like, let's say he was Dating like who would be really annoying? I thought at that time, Kendall Jenner like that one. Yeah, yeah, somebody just seems fame-hungry or It's kind of trash years, I don't know.

Yeah, they would have been annoying but actually I hate when people say someone's ugly like that I know is on seeing all the worst things in my eyes you can say, the only time I like maybe give someone is also a bad person. I feel like that can make you like ugly in a different way. Yeah, then I excuse that. But like I just hate when people say sweet, like people can't control how they look. And also that's like just your opinion, you know me.

So subjective really is. I know because also when you call somebody else ugly, not only are you revealing like the colors of your character? Yeah, but you're making everybody else feel insecure. Cuz it's like, oh God. Persons ugly. What do you think about me? I know is so arrogant. Like, okay. You think you're who, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, because she's like literally gorgeous. So she's so small. So cute. She's very symmetrical faces.

Well, she saw this and she responded to it. She tweeted. I am genuinely shocked and disgusted. At the amount of racism that has been infecting. My Count the past week. And then 10 minutes later she tweeted racism is unacceptable in the real world, and it's unacceptable online. True. Yeah, good. Good thing. She said something. Yeah. Was I crazy or did I read that?

She had once said that she had never even really like people had never said racist things to her until she started dating, Robert Pattinson. I don't know. I don't know if I saw that but maybe on November 10th, 2014, it was reported and there were pictures of it to that. Rob gave her a dozen, red roses after one of her shows in New York. That's why there's a picture of them walking down the The street and she's holding the bouquet, and then after the show, they hung out with Rihanna.

That's crazy. The wait. Twigs also talked about the heat. She was getting to USA Today. And she said, 14 year old kids that she called the haters. Fortunately kids, that should be in bed and she said, I really enjoy the fun of putting something out on people liking it, or hating it or talking about it, but the attention feels disgusting. It's like a hangover, it's beard.

I know that's not really because of me or what I'm doing, but the positivity I get from my relationship makes the more challenging more challenging aspects. It's very worth it. You know what's crazy, though? Like, well, you're fortunate. Reality is like a lot of those haters probably were adults. I know, like, I'm sure a lot of them were major. Yeah, there's something really

unhealthy about like fandom. I know we're just like so immersed in it. That that's like they live, breathe and die by that and they don't like interact with the outside world. I know which I'm sure there's a lot of like Twilight fans who are like that most are not but I'm sure. There's some that are it's all about balance and how to get all hippie here. But like I think that all groups. First of all, I think being part of a group can be great. Yeah. If your social life, whatever

but You can take it too far. Yeah. There's like anything. Yeah. And the thing about like a fandom is it's mostly online if you're mostly online. Yeah, sitting sense of reality that is needed, you know, I don't know if Rob and twigs were just like, not that online or something which is good for them. Rob doesn't seem like, you know, he's really on the internet that much.

But like he later says something about how, like, he doesn't even know anybody who comments, and they're just like people in the basement. I'm like, it's actually think that I'm proud of it. Yeah, I honestly have way less than I used to. Yeah. You got to just learn to step away. Yeah, it doesn't do any good. It's hard because like the more and more you're online, the more that it does feel like that. Your real life. Yeah, like it is hard. Like those lines are very

blurry. Yeah. So those fans definitely Had issues and they took it too far. Yeah, terrible. I kept reading reports back to story that Rob was thinking of moving to London and leaving a la la. We should be close to her. He kept going back and forth and couldn't decide. I don't know if that's true but I saw so many articles live there at all in London. No, yeah.

He's just living in La. I guess, you know what you're thinking about it. This is also the time so, November, 14th, 2014. 18. This is when Rob was seen with that very strange rectangle. Yeah. Of hair on his neck. It was to the seventh. Go, go Gala at the Montague Beverly Hills. Yeah, guys, if you haven't seen this, he I felt like this was maybe inspired by being with a fade Twigs because her fashion is very I don't know, eccentric avant-garde. Yeah. Yes, I'm Jake Works, dude.

Yeah. Um, and yeah, he so back of his neck was like shaved, except for a little rectangle. Very weird. I remember, being like what's happening? What the heck is happening? Where is Edward? But it was gone like shortly after he didn't keep it December 2014. They were seen in Miami kissing on one of those lounge chair things. By the pool is very normal for

them. Yeah but she was performing at Art Basel Miami so I think that's why they were there and she talked to the guardian and she said about Paparazzi. She said I look uncomfortable because I am uncomfortable but then it's like, oh, she's a very soft little British accent. It's like, is this person in my life worth it? And he is without a question in comparison to how happy I am and how I feel. Feel with him.

It's 100% worth it. I know it's because she's short but something about her reminds me of Caitlin, my sister. Yeah, thank you. I don't see it. I think. What is it? I don't know maybe it is because she's maybe it's just too high II do think? Okay I thought of somebody I think that they both seem really quiet. Yeah. But they also can be like pretty bold and shock you, they both quiet.

Yeah and sweet. Yeah. But they have a lot going on in their mind and like a lot of ideas and are very intellectual smart. Yeah. Kate Kaitlyn. I love you so much. I know she does our YouTube guys. So she listens to every episode. Yeah. She's, she's honestly like, truly one of the best people. Yeah, in the world. She's like my life. Consultant Yoshi's. Five years younger than me? Here are a on duty. Yeah. And you know what?

Like, I enjoyed it but I agree with her that the Penn Badgley, Blake Lively wasn't the best episode. Yeah, because I it'll be up. I know I made like a collage. I was just doing it from memory of all the couples have done before as, and I was actually able to do it like in order every single one we did, but then I forgot them. Yeah. Like, okay, she was right, that was forgettable. I'm sorry, go drama. I'm yeah, that's that's what happens.

When you have a healthy, really change the main takeaway from that episode was the amicable silence. I do remember that? Yeah, I mean, I remember, I remember, Ember it but like that was have to work together and there was no, I know. Because Penn Badgley is a great guy. Yeah, you guys watching you season for you to talk about that? Yeah, you can talk to us about that, we're watching it and she

talked more about the paparazzi. She said that side of my life, like the paparazzi is nothing to do with me. That's like that is the side of my life of the man that I love. And when that started happening, I had to, because that is the opposite of who I am as a person and it was weird. Then I had to sit back and have a conversation with myself and had to say, That is something really horrible. No, not horrible. I don't find a horrible. It's something that is very challenging.

Yeah. It's because she loves him. Wow. Yeah I think she said a couple times here like it's worth it. What? What hard what time period is this? So this is December 2014. Okay, so they haven't even been together that long like since the summer. The summer 2014 2014. Yes Jose volume is dating a few months. Yeah they're loved. Yeah yeah. I know January 2015 there were reports that Rob took her home to meet his family over the holidays. Okay.

It's really progressing. Remember one Rob and Kristen did that. Yeah. They did that really well. He was fat. I know he does. He does. Wow. I'm sorry, guys. I hope it's not disrespectful that I keep mentioning. Kristen Stewart, we like the thing is like, weird subject, matter expert. Yeah. In probably. Yeah. And so, we can't not think about it. Yeah. And I think a lot of people listening are also thinking about, but like, it's, we're

kind of I've hate that though. It's like, we're kind of like the media. I know also bringing up cause I know, like, I know whenever they say, like the hate the Press, they the media that's us. Yeah. Or like the, I do feel bad. These are Chuckles keep bringing up Kristen. Like I know I'm gonna do the same thing because I do feel bad. I feel bad because it but it is like hard not to mention, you know, because it's just like cemented in history. Yeah. That's why I like on this show.

I do want to respect people. I mean as much as I can respect people and not be too hard on them because yeah, like that kind of sucks to have strangers talking about you. I know. Yeah that was I forgot that that was my goal. A what that I want to be like very understanding towards people. People on the podcast. Yeah, because everyone's human and and yeah, honestly, relationships are like one of the hardest things. I know, love love.

I mean, it's like, when people tear us apart, literally like, it's like, it's like, it's like people are really messy and relationships, but it's because it's one of the most like anxiety-provoking crazy things and it makes you irrational, I know. Like I got bad stomachaches like you know and why is that? Hmm. Why are you guys tell us what you think? Yeah, why does love make people crazy?

Hmm, maybe that's why Rob has such a problem being vulnerable because he's going to talk about, I know, probably probably about again from any news about the Christmas with Rob's family. They said they absolutely I loved her says a source. It went so well. Rob's family has always been supportive of him and they thought they were great together. Again. Like, who's this Source? I don't know. I'm just going to choose to believe it. Yeah. Who are these like his cousin or

something. And okay, sorry to mention it but just so we know what's going on in the timeline. This is when Alicia this is when Kristen is with Alicia Car Guy. Okay, so she added on as well yes she's taken In March 2015, early March news outlets are saying did Robert Pattinson? Give girlfriend, okay? Two eggs, a promise ring. They're both sporting Rings. Apparently. Interesting. He wants to marry her. Those Source says this is people it hasn't even been a year.

No, much more calm and happy than before. That's how he they described Rob. They are inseparable when they are together, they live at his house. Normally, I'd be like, skeptical of this, but they do spoiler, they do end up getting engaged. But, okay. Don't you think? I feel like the Press magazines and stuff are sometimes stuck in like 1950s? Yeah. Like do people even do the promise we know is that? That's cheesy as. Yeah. Maybe it's just a ring. He gave her but they're both

wearing them. I don't even honestly I don't know if it's true. Yeah. But don't you think he gave Chris and ring as well? The same one. Give that back. That's my mother's promise ring, promise ring. Doesn't that mean like you're saving yourself for marriage? I think there's like two definitions. There's that one. And then there's one that's like, we're serious together. Oh, but oh yeah, really. You're going steady? Yeah. But I just don't, I can't picture Rob and twigs doing what

Say that. Like here's this ring, I got you baby. I know it's a promise. I feel like a guy giving a girl a ring just means that anyway. Yeah I guess so. Maybe she's like an unspoken thing and they're just excited and they're calling it a promise. Yeah. Oh my God this whole thing could be like made up. Yeah maybe they just want to like an art fair and they both bought Rings. What publication actually said that that was that was people. Oh. Oh my God. I know we actually people isn't

very legit. Okay, that's it's March. Yes, it's March and they started dating in July. Yeah, my God. Okay but keep in mind they're celebrities. This tree have nothing to like wait for No One. Honestly, the thing is though about that is like I would think that celebrity relationships would move slower because they're so busy all the time. I guess. But they already have so much money. They already have legit house. Isis. It'll have to be like, yes. So we should save up to like laugh.

How someday or like our wedding? That's true. Everything is already. And if they get scared just like no big deal. Yeah, that's true. And maybe they feel like everybody around them is like a phony. So if they meet anybody that's like they're like Daniel. I feel like famous people get engaged quickly. I just really think wouldn't I don't know how they'd have the time like that. Now, that's why I came. My brain, but even these days I feel like it can be like hard to do to someone.

It's like you're so busy all the time. Like yeah. There's a normal person, how I know someone is a famous person. You're on set all the time. I know, it seems like during this time, he was kind of following her around. I don't think he was acting at the time that makes more, but, unfortunately, that changes because then he starts to film stuff. I'm sure that the conflict definitely is, um, very, very confusing me on April 4. Fools Day. There is a report that they're engaged and weirdly.

It was T-Pain. Who said it first? Well the mapper why interview, he said he's a big fan of FKA twigs and then he was asked, if he would elaborate, I know he was, he was asked if he would collaborate with her and he said he wanted to. But she's on tour so much any time I call her, she's in a different place and she's engaged now. So that's about to be a whole other thing. And then interfere was like,

wait what? And he said yeah told Patty and then he said, I don't know if she wanted anybody to know that. These blue slip. It was April Fool's Day. So it was like wait is this true? But then it was you you must your, because then there was like in the subsequent weeks there were more articles about it. So so they've been together. Nine months. Yeah. They were together nine months and they were engaged, guys.

I don't know why I keep what we're going to do this couple anyway, but I keep picking relationships that our engagement. I don't really you can weird. Wow. And a big hint next week is that too. Yeah, I have a fetish for broken engagement. I love it. The potential. So yeah. Like aren't you technically already? Talking about getting engaged. Mel its way, it's a big deal to say, yes, that's true. I wonder how good did I Rob. I know, I wish we knew don't know. We don't we have?

No, no. Do you get on one knee? Was there like an elaborate thing. You people really plan out there. You know, it's moments like these days. I wish we knew what was he wearing? I know. Where were they? Yeah, we we don't any of the details. Was it like, super romantic, or was it kind of casual? I love an engagement story. I know it's nice. That's how did your parents get engaged? You know? I'm pretty sure thing on gauge that a Bruce Springsteen concert, really so cute.

You know, my mom was a huge fan of Bruce Springsteen. Yeah. What about your parents? They know story. I think I'm gonna get you a Christmas but again like I think they just talked about it. Think my parents would only need it for six months. Months. We're getting engaged. So why are you like? Oh my God. Together nine, why do you think we should think about it? All right. Yeah, my parents have been dating for like, what six years or something. Yeah. So I think that's safer than six

months. Hmm. My parents are still together. Mmm. But yeah. To each their own mellow, I didn't do it. I don't think what it was. Robert. Pattinson. That I'm getting engaged after one day. I know, I remember back in the day saying, like, I don't even have to meet him. No, some calls me up. It's like Married at First Sight. No. I mean I'm in a relationship

now, so I'm not. Oh, when Brittany, I keep talking to her and her boyfriend were here over the weekend and we were talking about Pete Davidson and I was like, would you date him and her boyfriend was like, what? Oh my God. It's like, I'm sorry. I feel like I shouldn't have said that. It's just like what? Say on the bike. Then she whispered to me. Yes she would. She would pay them. Yeah I would I don't. Well yeah if you ask me out sure. Yeah I would he's our cousin. Just kidding.

He's not you literally convinced me that he was done. He is distantly related. Yeah. Somehow I'm sure it was hypothetical. Yeah. Like I didn't mean it. No but you actually did it was just, you know. Yeah, no. I I think like, I felt bad. I feel like I insulted Colin for asking that right in front of him, but it's like a celebrity. Yeah, it's not going to have been in Another Universe. He has all these very short-lived relationships. It's not worth it, okay?

So, According to People magazine, I've always loved that name. So simple. Yeah, people like, that's what Jenna rink was trying to do. Oh yeah, poised magazine. Yeah, people just about people. Yeah, while patents and his parents, Richard and Claire patents in would like a church wedding Twigs. Want something quite informal, like a pub wedding. Oh, God, a source tells People Pub weddings, not really thing in America but I think I get the idea that a pub.

I guess some people might. Yeah, this girl actually that I work with, she was telling me she's getting married and she was saying that she's having her wedding in a brewery or oh, wow. The wedding is in the brewery. Yeah, I love berries, actually, I mean I would do like the party there me guys, I'm so horse. Oh, that's cool. They do weddings at Cindy. Kata, did you know that? No.

And then it said, fortunately there are other nuptials coming up in the family, Penzance older sister Victoria also got engaged a few months ago to her boyfriend. John pep it. So I guess they're trying to say, like, if there was a pub wedding, at least they'll be a another Catholics. Yeah. It's said that they were hoping to get married late summer, although the plans are not definite. It's awkward around the same time like, literally the same

news cycle. Same week, I think Kristen was asked in an interview about like what it was like shooting a sex scene with Robert Pattinson. Oh my God, it's just a weird like he's gate. I know. She's being asked that. Yeah, she has to give some kind of like funny answer. It is he says, I don't actually write it down. I think she's being asked. I know, I'm her ex-boyfriend. I know. Wow, that's hard. I know May 2015. So summer is coming up. They went to the Met Gala

together. Big deal, you never did that with Kristin know, they looked super hip and cool. I loved. He had like this little cross. Yeah, and I remember the white, right? Well, this is the time, they actually go twice the time. She Wearing this really unique dress, it has like forms of naked people on it? Oh yes. I remember. I was like someone can Tinker nymphal. Yeah, very strange but it's cool. It looks good on her.

The theme was China through the Looking Glass and I don't really I don't think they follow the theme because her dress is by a Scottish designers. Oh, I hate when people don't follow. Okay, that doesn't seem to be following. Yeah. But she did have okay. You could see the engagement ring on her finger. Yeah. And it's quite unique. It was like a teardrop shape and like goals. Yes. But do you actually see if you screw up? You can see the picture of them too.

Wow, is very unique. She's a unique. Gal, I feel like they were very like, elusive about the fact that they were engaged. They were. You're very right, mouth? Yeah, it was a pear-shaped, diamond. Approximate value. 150,000 dollars. Wow. Juice Too much. Yeah. May 13th. Rob? Celebrated his 29th birthday. Wow. June June 2015. They were seen out and about in the New York and l.a. lots of pictures of lots of pictures of her talking on the phone and he's like standing next to her

so that couple time. It's crazy. I just thought it's crazy how often these people not just them, but how often they go back and forth between New York and la and London. I know it's crazy that these people are in New York all the time and, you know, we live here. I know it's not but, isn't it while I feel like to me like going to La is like a big trip? It's like once a year. I know. Yeah. Okay. Chenier just back and forth by. No, it's not. Do they fight? I feel like they rob flies.

Sighs public. Yeah they fucking beer. Yeah yeah decoration figure it out. This is one, this is average my light and he's doing very Indie movies like map to the stars and Cronenberg. Yeah because we bliz like people not a lot of people really seeing these movies. Yeah but he's getting good praise for them. Yeah critically acclaimed. Yeah but he's not Overexposed yes. Yeah very Indian like Twigs is very Indie to so it's just his His little hipster time July 2015.

This is when he lands the role for good time. It's definitely. I think I was like a major stepping stone in his career. Yeah definitely he goes to Manchester England to see Twigs perform and he had a beard at this point home. Oh, yeah. And apparently, Tom, Sturridge and Sienna Miller were there. Oh wait, that's really wrong. Apparently, Tom storage and seems Sienna Miller. Let's split. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm sorry. Read my notes too fast. They broke up and I was like

their couple friend. So, yeah, I think sometimes I can cause a rift with Camille's if they're like a couple friend breaks up, I know I've heard that like divorce can be contagious and friend group. Yeah. Or it's like let's say the like I don't think this is the case with them. But yeah, let's say the woman is friends with the woman and the man is friends with the man and Then that couple splits up, and then they both take sides, like, that can be really hard. True.

Okay. So, this is summertime. Wow. So we're coming on a year. Yeah, they're in. Remember they said they were maybe going to get married in Summer. Yeah. But I doubt it will be in it though because sometimes sometimes we are like, oh, that might be in it and it's um, I know if you guys can hear, it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

A source told people that their wedding have been pushed to Autumn, at least Because the bride-to-be can't decide what kind of wedding she liked to have, she talks about keeping as real and Loki to talks about it, keeping real and Loki and then wants an elaborate glamorous provoke, a fair. She was even talking on stage, sorry I like no I can't read this quote, she was even talking at one stage about having a

masked ball. It will now be bigger, but how big nobody's quite sure at this moment in time? The Source reveals, there's no fixed wedding date but will probably be late in the year and while their wedding plans might have taken it roadblock. The couple are already looking forward to the future. They have both talked about wanting kids. Wow. They always say that. I don't really know if it's true, but who's telling the press that I know. Yeah. And okay apparently.

So this is also in July 2015. She told the Sunday Times that you'd never seen Twilight before. Wow. Mmm. Resting. I feel like if I was in that position like let's say like I had no connection to Twilight whatsoever. Yeah. I wouldn't want to watch a movie with him and his ex-girlfriend. That's true with him and his ex-girlfriend. That's just sitting and like, mmm being very intense with each other. I know. But as a big Twilight lover, I'm kind of like really.

I know I haven't seen it, but she read it. I don't, I don't know. I don't think so. Wow, that sucks. She can't experience that. I know it's such a great thing. Sad. August 2015, Rob signs on to movie High Life and there was a story in page, six by Carlos, Greer that said, Twigs was on FaceTime with Rob as she waited to board a flight in Sweden and it said she was lightly juice, sweetly berating him that he hadn't listened to something. She Sent him a few days ago.

She wanted to see him tomorrow she calls him baby said a spy, the singer flew coach to Sweden for the white out. West Festival, this weekend. So yeah, I guess they were FaceTiming. That's true. September 2015, there was another page six article. It said, Bob was scheduled to attend the Venice Film Festival, but backed out because he's shooting lost city of Z in Ireland. But sources, tell us that Pattinson never planned on coming.

He did not want the story to be all about how he and Kristen were nearly bumping into each. Other Venice is very small. And there are only so many parties in hotels because Kristen was going to be there to promote equals with Nicholas Hoult. So, wow, it's interesting that. Yes, Purposely all, I guess. He's filming a movie anyway, but he's purposely like calculating his actions based off. Kristen still, I know if that's true. But yeah, I think he was supposed to go to that to

promote a movie. So it's just interesting that he kind of like pretended he was going to go. Yeah, I don't know. Wow, yeah, so he was in Belfast filming lost city of Z and then he did go to London to see twigs and they were seen out and about in SoHo at night and there's actually a picture of them standing outside. This Taco plays with the sign. The neon signs look like very strip club be there. Like girls group, girls or something, actually recognize them from when I studied abroad.

I was like, wait I remember those windows. Wow, that's cool. It's my world. I know. So then Rob was on the cover of enemy and he talked about the reasons racist, comments. If K to exude gotten, he said I was talking to my dad about this and I bet him that he if he looked up Nelson, Mandela's funeral on YouTube. The first comment would be a racist. One. And it was in it was with like a million of boats which I don't get why I think it's because most normal people are not

commenters. I've never met anyone who's left a comment on anything, it's just demons. Who live in basements. You have this weird thing where you end up trying to fight against this, faceless blob for the more you hate it, the bigger it gets because it's all in your head. I wonder Rob has ever commented on something in his life, before, you know, because he ever left Amazon review or Yelp. Were you? I wonder he seems to think people don't comment.

Wow, I don't comment on YouTube videos ever. Yeah, I don't on YouTube rarely, I rarely, comment on Like Instagram stuff, if it's not someone who I already know in her life but sometimes I will like if I'm not if it's late at night, if it's to weigh me down in my bed. Well yeah, it's always a funny when you're like a little tipsy and you go on Instagram, like I want to kind of like I love it. Yeah, I get embarrassed. So when I come in, I like a celebrity's thing. Oh yeah.

Somebody else want to know. Good. See this government. I hate when that happened. It just went of laughing to myself about some But like, sometimes like, if I comment, like, let's say, celebrity announced their pregnancy or something. That comment like, congratulations. Like I'm like, I'm just so embarrassed. I got it online and stuff, really? Yeah, that's so cute to be like, Yay.

It's cute though. It was a kind of interacting with the world as long as young nice and positive, like that's good, she probably won't see it. But if she does look, I want her to see some positive comments, you know? Because I love that girl, but anyway, I don't know her but I love her music. Um, November 2015, they still seem really happy and in love from the outside. There, seen it like events in La together, they're out and about in London, but by December Autumn has come and gone, and

they haven't gotten married. That's okay. It's okay. But it's just interesting. You know, they keep saying the Press, keep saying these dates and then it's not happening January 2016. I just thought it was really cute. Picture of them in London. They're in their coats are both wearing like long coats and their care. Shopping bags and it's just cute. If you don't have a picture with me but I can remember it.

February 2016, Rob becomes the face of Dior Twigs is performing more, there's a Hollywood Life article. We don't know if you can trust them but they claimed from an exclusive Source, the FKA twigs was kind of asking Rob when the wedding would be wanted to be soon and he's dragging his feet. Nothing will weddings is like you. It's a book that was very far in advance.

Dance. Because I know that you're, I mean, I but one of your other pants and yeah, but imagine her wedding, it's bums, because, Robert Pattinson. Sorry, we had to cancel your reservation for wedding because our pants and I'm sure like celebrities do. Yeah. I'll be all the time. I know, I wonder how that goes for the Rich and Famous. Like, do they also struggle to find a venue?

Yeah, you wonder, huh. I mean, they probably have such a high budget that They can get places that are off-limits to most people like a castle. You know, if they even booked a venue, I don't think they did. Okay? I feel like that's worse when your plan if you're if you break an engagement, I feel like, yeah. All you're just have all of your engagements that you've covered.

I think they never even really seriously planning the wedding like they got engaged, but didn't do anything after that. Yeah, I remember that in the Brad and Gwyneth one some asaurus said, like they never even booked event. Yeah. It's kind of a bad song. So April 2016, there's articles in Metro UK, Cosmopolitan, InTouch, weekly, that report that Rob had called off his wedding to FKA twigs against again.

I know claiming this is like the second time it happened in a source, also said that they'd been fighting all the time and that she isn't the girl for him. I know why am I shocked right now? If I don't know that this didn't work out, I know what. When is this? This is April 2016. Okay, so now they've been together for like a year in a half a little bit more than a year and a half, right? Yeah. I just think that relationship 2014 fast. Yeah. It seemed like they were very

excited. Mmm. Okay, but there's more, there's more. There's this quote, I don't know if it's true, probably not. It said she's very jealous and he was sick of having to explain himself. He's still young and just decided he wasn't ready to settle down. How will the sea? I think he's 29. Okay, I know it's not that young, but, but, yeah, actor. But the thing about him is like, I remember when he was 21, I know, thank you. He would give interviews by we

want. He really wanted to be a young Dad, you know, and like, he really wanted to settle down early. Yeah, it's kind of surprising that he still hasn't done that. I almost feel like these like a curve because I think, like, when I was younger, I kind of thought I would get married. When I was like 22. Yeah, that was like 20. And then is more time went on. I was actually quite know. Yeah, as you realize like, oh, actually Life is really fast. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Means I'm happy for people that got married at that age. I just wasn't in the right relationship. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. But like, when I was younger I did think, like, oh yeah. Early twenties for sure. Yeah. Yeah no. Yeah, I thought that I would have a family - it's so weird. I used to really think that you can almost feel like smug about it. Like people would talk about I'm going to wait till my 30 and I'm like, I'm not me. I feel like that she was my line tells you is that?

I mean, I think it's different for everyone. People might go older than they are but once you get to that age, it feels a lot younger than you expect. Yeah, don't feel that different. Yeah, I know I was just talk about that today with my coworker. I definitely feel 24 I love that. Thanks 28. And I am 28. Yeah, crazy. Sometimes I do question in, like, wait, am I? I don't know. It must have been because Mentor, UK reported that. They saw a robin Twigs having dinner at shortage house on

April 16th. So they, I think we're back together. They were back together and when was when they, if the split was even like real. But yeah, because they were seen together again. Yeah, that happened. Yeah, it does happen. Yeah. Okay, I don't, I choose to not believe this, okay? Hollywood gossip claimed that Rob had cheated on her saying, in fact, Witnesses claim. They recently spotted Rob getting hands even and identified woman at a party in La, Rob, couldn't keep his hands

off. This one girl, he was kissing her and putting his arms around her all night. Rob looked like he was totally into this girl stuff like that. Um, But I okay just don't like this. It's like if they had an actual name, if they had a place like I just don't believe this stuff. Yeah, I want to also I would believe something more if I knew who was saying it. You know? Yeah. Like have some courage and say who you are and tell us the

true. Yeah. Like I think Justin Timberlake cheating allegations. Yeah. We're a lot more believable, their pictures pictures and yeah. And like they were ripped like hot. I'm a gossip. Like I don't believe it. Yeah he doesn't seem like the type and I know you know I know you're not supposed to say that but I just don't think that Robert he look I just don't get the vibe, I don't think so he's been cheated on that's so true he knows what it's like.

Okay so this is the time when Kristen speaking of every stating so go oh yeah. Who went on a date with Rob? I got back in the day. Can you imagine going out with both Rob and Kristen. Then what does Soco? So it goes in French musician. What does she think when she looks on a toilet poster? He's like, oh yeah. I I don't know if she banged Rob but like I've been both of them. Yeah. Like, who is she thinking of probably Kristin, yeah, probably that's so funny.

I know that's what an achievement. If she's the only one to have been with both of them. I hope that she did sleep with Rob. I know in Kriss to have that connection. That's a getting an ego. I know, right? But then I went to the 2016 Met Gala together. Interesting. The Menace ex machina fashion in the age of Technology here, they're still together and apparently Kristen was there. Yeah. And she approached Rob and twigs in Apparently they hugged and talked. Wow, no pictures or any.

I've heard that? Yeah, wigs. Felt awkward. Oh really. I think he's awkward. Who knows how she felt. Yeah, but she just kind of stood there while Rob and Kristen Johnston feather. He introduced her. You know, that happens when like you're with someone and they see someone they know and they're like, huh, I know I've never introduced you to my twin brother is so bad at that lie. Every time we go to his comedy show. Ya. He never says, like, oh, this is my own key. Did the last time?

Yeah, he'd never introduces us to people. I wonder got no. But I heard that Kristin like approached them and I wonder if Rob. Yeah, I wonder if probably felt nervous. You know, we don't know. I'm sure he's very polite. You know what's even crazier, though? What is this? Gonna get crazier, Liberty, Ross. Was there to my gosh. Okay, okay, Because I know a lot of you probably do.

So this is the wife of the director that word Sanders enters that Kristen cheated on Rob with what was she doing there? I don't know what she was invited to the Met Gala. I don't know why, I don't know what maybe she was. Guess is something. Maybe she's friends with fashion people. I don't know. I wrote my notes. Okay, this is stressful. Yeah. Okay. Kristen had If this is true, I'm sure you could find out somehow but like, Rob is there and Liberty, Ross Robinson people? She scorned.

Yes. Rob is there with his new girlfriend? Yeah, and I'll for some reason. I thought it was like five years later that he did it. I could do it. I don't know that it was like this is was like a year later they started. And this is only now at this point like two years from when him and Kristen broke up like in the grand scheme of things. Like that's not that long, I don't know. It's like it's not you can still be hung up. On your X2. Yeah, if you want to be, I know

she has David couple people. Oh Kristin, yeah, true. But yeah, it's not that long but also is a really significant relationship. It's still living on in the press and in movie history forever. So I feel like it would say they would still think about it every single day. Yeah, you know, I know it's not they're all there together. Wow, I can see why the metcal would be unpleasant to go to like it seems really glamorous and cool, but yeah. Seems kind of like a fishbowl.

Yeah, Mentor UK published an article saying that their wedding save-the-date. Invitations had been sent out the wedding would occur in December, so they must have booked the venue. This is May, I know you're right, you're right. They must have, but, who I don't know if that's true. You know, you just, you just don't know July, 2016. Kristen is in love with Alicia cargile. I think you saying that yeah, we blew the fact that they owe and then what do you sound when you

cancel your wedding? You must have to send something in the mail. He's that strong and I think, oh my God, I call everybody. Yeah. How do you announce that to people? I don't know. Like do you just not send the actual invitation? Maybe what happens if you've already sent the invitation. Maybe you tell a bunch of people and then tell them to spread the news. Yeah. Yeah.

Guards bread starts bread. Yeah, that's what I would do if I was actually like when I to break up I kind of told my friends like tell our other friends. Yeah dude for me I don't want to tell everybody. Yeah yeah so July 2016. Twigs is seen in Moscow with white bleached, blond hair, very cool. And she's with a guy but I don't know who he was, maybe just worked with him, I don't know. September 2016 haven't seen them in a while, you know. It's July.

I'm just a number but there's pictures of them together at LAX returning to a la la la is far from Europe. It is. Yeah, so crazy. They're doing that trip. A lot October they were seeing Going through security in LAX again, and it's just so normal, like pictures of them, taking off their shoes and stuff. So, yeah, they're totally back together. I mean, the wedding still on. I don't know what was up with

that breakup news. But November robbed holds Rob spoke to people at the 10th, Annual, go campaign, Gala in La, some party charity thing. Yeah, Rob said, I still feel like, I'm 22, maybe even 14, he's there. 30 now. Um, however when asked directly about his wedding, he said planning what? Now. Hmm. I know it doesn't sound like, I don't like that Robby love you. But like what the heck? Yeah. That's not what you wanna hear. I do 14. Yeah wedding. What? Now yeah.

Doesn't it smell like really respectful to your lady to you know like I know that he's private but Yeah, I guess I guess he's shy like I guess if you don't want to talk about it, how do you respond to it? I don't know. I might catch you off guard but it did make it look like he was kind of having cold feet or so I don't know. Maybe I'm getting too far into it but that's just not what you want here. And I feel 22.

Maybe 14 that one if I was Twigs that would not make me feel good because that sounds like you're not ready? Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, 14 year old isn't ready to get married. That sounds good. And she actually said something similar to es magazine. She said, inhuman. Okay, there's all this wasn't as direct but in human years I'm like, 28, I think she actually was 28, but how old are we really? We don't even know in the time that humans have set, which isn't real.

I'm 28, but how old am I? You don't know how old you are. And then she said to the interviewer for? YES, magazine, your son could be older than you. What are we talking about? Human years soldiers? Of years years of what, that's how I see things. I don't know how old I am. I can't say. Oh yeah, I don't know. I don't know if my son could really be older than the vital have their oh son.

I see, I thought yes. Um, oh no. Oh yeah, she was saying to the interviewer guy like you has a son because the older than you like mentally nice lad this biological age. Yeah, definitely a thing. But I don't know, like like I remember in college, like, we took this philosophy class, like we talked about how time is a concept and like, it's not real but it's like kind of Israel because I know all do age and die. And like it's, that's because time right?

Get kind of bored by that kind of sums up Home Store, huh? Like no, it's not a construction. It's going to keep passing. I actually feel like it's one of the realest thing I know like everything dies I guess. Like the time The duration that we applied a time is a construct. Yeah, we don't have to have 365 days a year like, have to measure our time like that but like, no matter what, like you're never going to get time back. I know.

And yet, even if we didn't use years, obviously, you are. We can tell Twigs are older than like, a baby. Yeah. So, I don't know. I think time is real. Yeah, I get why people are saying when you're trying to be like, deep about that when I don't know. So he They both feel young? Yeah. So February. So now we're February 2017. They both attend the lost city of Z Premiere. And oh, yeah, the film stars.

Sienna Miller. I saw that movie, I actually don't remember her and maybe she's like a really small kind of unrelated to their relationship but Charlie humming, he's in that movie said that Rob didn't talk to him at all while filming the lost city of Z. He told screen International. I had a couple of Over herzl sessions with Sienna but I didn't spend any time with Tom Holland or Robert. I want I wanted these relationships to evolve naturally on screen through the

work. I don't think I said more than 10 words or our parents and off camera. I didn't know if he was just in the zone or if he didn't really didn't like me there's a real distance between us but it created the right Dynamic on screen. He's reached out to me, subsequently making overtures for us to be friends now. So I think it was about the work. Huh? I know that's like when we You rob stunt double for Twilight. He said that Rob was really aloof.

And yeah, just would like, be back in his trailer and like, didn't really interact with people as much. I didn't talk to people. Hmm. And I don't think it's because he's like, I don't, I don't think he's not friendly but like, I don't think it's because he's not nice. Yeah, he's just like introverted. Yeah, I do think he is introverted and it seems like he does take acting really seriously like yeah, I don't know.

I don't think he's one of those people that just can't be, like, goofing around and then he like, gets in the mode. Yeah, Cassidy in. Yeah, the whole time thing all day, he's not like a method actor per se but it seems like he gets very in the mind. It is interesting that. Yeah, is like that though because I feel like he doesn't even like acting as much as he likes music. Like he just kind of fell into act. Yeah, maybe he just knows he's good at it.

Yeah, maybe he's overcompensating, yeah, because he feels like, oh, I'm not really an actress. So I have to like take it seriously. Yeah I mean I think it's very possible to have many passions you know? No I think so too. I mean I feel that way myself. Yeah but honestly I've like I don't know like everything had that much money. Yeah. It's like I feel like I wouldn't do it anymore act if it was stuck stressful where you're like where you went with Paltrow?

Yeah, you're working along our days. Yeah like if you don't love it. Yeah, well maybe he does. I love in probably does bleep. I think has to be. Yeah. But he's still getting so many royalties and stuff like you really do need to work if you didn't want to. Yeah he could do the music though, is the thing. Yeah, he could just get some music and like not like this music just knew how to be

successful. Yeah, he could just I know that he could literally just be like Indie musician like Michael Cera or whatever. Yeah like he doesn't need. I feel like he doesn't care about like getting an Oscar. Yeah like maybe He does. Yeah, we don't know if you, if you was like really superficial actually, that's a danger of like thinking. You know, these people I know So July 2017, Rob said, he's kind of engaged. FKA twigs on. Howard Stern.

Remember that two years after proposing kind of, who years after burp. Yeah, saying 12 years now, Because I got engaged very quickly. Remember now it's 2017. Yeah. And then I actually have a clip Howard's being his classic self. Let's listen, relationships are complicated, you know, when you're good looking at you or me and I relate to you, in this respect, we could have anyone we want. I've always been that way for me really.

I just always found like because people say that about like being an actor whatever. I just always think it actually kind of Narrows things down. Let it sort of it's true. The it kind of because one thing you get all paranoid about everything and you have no idea why people like you or whatever. Evan also, like most people do, they may think they want to have a relationship with you, but if they start having littered with you, they actually realize like this is not what I want at all.

It's like you know, you get all the crazies, you can't do anything. You basically have a cut, there's a there's a big imbalance like in a relationship like it's kind of it's a tough kind of related it that way, you're right. I mean it Sort of narrow that like you can't just go to a restaurant, pick up some girl because you could be looking a little kind of legal problems and people are out to get you they did things.

Yeah the woman you were with is like a really good singer FKA twigs and there's a racial element to that people. Give I can't even believe in this day and age. She gets shit from your fans because she's a black woman. Like like I mean people write her nasty things. Yeah. And it's like was kind of it's like it's I think that's just professional trolls.

Will not let profession for both these people they get So addicted to kind of just wanting to cause hurt and pain on someone and it's sort of and it's one of the most difficult things to know how to how to confront really? Because you're just like, I don't know how to I mean, it's a faceless enemy. And yeah, some, if someone came up in the street and said it, then it's one thing and you can, you know what to do and you know what to say?

But when it's literally just this kind of like nuts, like a little random name on Instagram, some asshole in his basement and they're probably like in a different country somewhere and it's like, it's just crazy and you kind of and like it might seem fake Then, but it's definitely like it's real that can in your life and even if you think you can turn it off or whatever, it's still like just to know it's there. It's like, if you know that there's like, one room in your

house. Where, like, if you'd like, listen up against the wall, you hear everyone talking shit about you and then the next room like yeah, even if you don't go to that room, if whenever you feel bad about yourself you're going to go down there and then I start listening to The Whispers I agree with you. I think it is the hardest thing and as a guy I know we all try to fix things. I know if someone attacks my wife on Twitter or one of these things, you get crazy cuz you want to go.

Fuck, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go protect you from this and you can't protect anybody from anything. You feel helpless and then if I mean I feel like you're feeding it afterwards as well. I don't want to, I don't want to. Yeah I feel like it makes me feel like less powerful if you if you're trying to psych. You know. It's kind of attack like to make it go away and it gets bigger. Yeah. Trying to attack like a reflection in the water or something or just like punching. You just look crazy.

Whereas you know you think the only way to show some kind of strength is like this none of this shit touches me. That's a really hard situation. I was thinking like listening to that like and I don't have an answer or an opinion. Hmm But should Rob have at the time when him and twigs. First started dating released a statement like through his publicist or something saying like I don't want fans on my behalf like going after any Buddy.

You know, like just a quick statement he doesn't would have been nice. Yeah, he doesn't I mean he's addressed it like twice in interviews and that's nice but like yet he never really proactively did anything about Yak the way he's saying that interview like oh you don't want to go after it because then it's crazy. It's like but you didn't go after you don't actually do anything. Yeah, I think it would have been really nice. Yeah.

I know what he means. Like I think I think it just does give you power to like not go after Sir, like haters or something, but in this case him it's not about him. In this case, people are being racist towards your girlfriend on your behalf. Yeah, I know. So like I know you value your privacy Rob, but I feel like it just a quick statement. He doesn't even have to say my girlfriend just say, like I don't support this, you know, it is sad. I just would think that he would

do that for her some. Yeah, I don't know why. Yeah, I think it upsets me. I kind of wish he did do a little more about it. It's not going to stop everybody but yes, stop some people to be honest. Yeah. Some people who are DieHard fans of get Hansen are gonna go like, oh, Rob doesn't want this. If he said, like, you're not a fan of mine, if you're being

racist, you know. Yeah. And I know that might be kind of embarrassing for him because, like, there's gonna be articles about Why people are gonna talk about? He's going to get publicity for it, but it's it probably would have made a somewhat of a difference. Maybe you just felt like so detached from it in a way. Yeah. Cuz he's not even on social media. Yeah. And now maybe things Twilight was, I don't know, maybe he just didn't feel connected to it. Mmm. Yeah anymore.

Oh, so July 2017. Rob and Kristen were actually coincidentally on the same flight. LOL. Oh my God. Crazy. They must have seen each other. You know, like she was with Stella Maxwell. Wow. Then girl, wait, they literally had to have seen each other because I bet they were both sitting first class right now. Right. Probably. Yeah. And they have to wait to leave it plain. Yeah. You see everybody getting their luggage. Also, you're in the way awkward the waiting. Yeah, that's insane.

That's crazy. That's so awkward. What a small world. In August 2017. Good time comes out. Audiences are very impressed with Rob, okay, but this is Tobar 2017. Final nail in the coffin, it's reported that Rob and FKA twigs have officially called off their two-year engagement how their travel schedules, took a big toll on their relationship said any news. Okay, do something. Some Publications, just like own story or something. Yes. Doesn't it seem like?

Sometimes it's like always l or like re Claire. Yeah, a lot of love. There must be like a specific reporter. Some yeah someone eat from a news was on the robin fk2 guys like honestly. It's like I'm the Rob expert. Yeah. Hire me. Yeah. They're like chasing Yeah. Okay, you're right. And that's your job and I specialize. So anyway, they said Rob is the one who ended it. They bought a house together, but then it was just not working out between them. She moved out.

Wow. As always like, who knows? If it's totally true but in kind of It seemed right to me. Yeah, well there's nothing to do. Oh, it's yeah. And then based on even like the song lyrics it come out later. Yeah, I do think Hannah did. They were almost Inseparable for their first two years together. Source told the sun, that's sad. But in recent months, I have really started to drift apart and they've been spending less and less time together, and then, okay.

Same as last time. Rob is apparently leaning on Katy Perry. That's what is your son? Born during this time. Katie. And I met Katie, honestly, I don't get the Katy Perry thing, Katie wanted to go with it. I know like of course, she's dead whenever he has a breakup Katy Perry's, just there. It's kind of late. I need to know more about this is this is she with John Mayer? I don't know why I didn't bring. I don't know. I'm sorry, I didn't. I would say, yes, there was a gun to my head.

I'm gonna live or die office. Yes, I would say at least once, if I die inside took that room, we covered them with the hypothetical is coming. No, no. Okay. To answer your question earlier, though. That would have pissed me off. Yeah, if they were together? No, no, no. I just love Katy Perry. Actually back in like 2008? Yeah. Anyway, Twigs posted a picture of herself a few weeks after this news came out with the caption. Hi, I've just moved in next door. I don't suppose you have any

sugar. So, anyway, that just kind of confirms that, like, she moved out or some life changes, she moved somewhere else. I don't know. She was seen, okay, I saw this picture of her walking around with a smoothie. She's dressed up, but I don't know why. It just not fix your kid. Killed me. I don't know why. I just like this feeling of, like, trying to move on after you think I'm like, your new life, like what is it? Now, she's just by yourself. Now, walking around with this

movie. Like, now, what, you know. That's so that's a beautiful reality. I wrote the gutting feeling after break-up one is just you now, and you're still alive in this world and figuring out what life will be like without this person. You gotta get dressed. Yeah, we got your smoothie day-by-day, really, unfortunately happened next in her life, I feel like wasn't great because then she started dating Shia LaBeouf. Yeah.

They met in the movie, honey, boy that she starred in and I guess it started dating like right away, and she moved into his house. And I read a news again, they owned the story wrong. Rob, Rob was working with Mia. Goth his co-star in high life and she has X. Yeah, so both so Robin. Mia RE CO stars and bull. Their exes are dating twigs and Shia LaBeouf.

Wow. And according to a news, they both thought it was comical and not surprised that their exes were together and even saw it coming but LaBeouf and twigs had not commented on the status of the relationship and the source of the Pattinson and go. Goth who had been promoting the new movie High Life, we're just friends and they said that they have a don't care attitude about the situation between Shia and

twigs. Hmm. And that he's been a support system for me, a god who's hurt and upset but is trying to move on. Hmm, so yeah, I mean if you guys don't know I mean I'm going to get into it a little bit but if you took Slater on ended up, Claiming that Shia LaBeouf was abusive to her physically and mentally and it's just really sad. I mean, I know I talked about this with you.

Maybe it was on another by Twilight or maybe it was off the mic but like just makes me so sad because like you would just hope that after the relationships you'd move on to like better things. But I know I didn't really breaks my heart. It's really sad. It's also I think even just in general like not to like Light in it or whatever but like dating someone after Robert Pattinson would be really hard. I know, you know? Because like you can get and then it's like this wicked

shitty situation. Yeah. Yeah. I could probably felt like, wow, my life is taking a turn for the worst? Yeah, yeah. Sucks. And he's kind of admitted to it like it is child. Oh yeah. Yeah, the he was like, abusive down. Yeah, he has. Yeah, yeah, jeez. Remember when you just like on, even Steven Ins, I know that's like sad. He grew up to be like that is sad.

So November 8th, 2019, Twigs. Release her sophomore album Magdalene. And people believe many of the lyrics are about her, about her breakup with our penson. And before the album came out, she had a press release and she wrote, I never thought heartbreak could be so

all-encompassing. I never thought that my body could stop working to the point that I couldn't express myself, physically, in the ways that I have, Always loved and found so much Solace. I have always practiced my way into being the best I could be by couldn't do it. This time I was left with no option but to tear every process down, but the process of making this album has allowed me to, for the first time in the most real way to find compassion.

When I have been at my most ungrateful confused and fractured, I stopped judging myself. And at that moment, I found Hope in Magdalene to her. I'm forever grateful. So it seems like The Break-Up really really, really affected her. I don't blame her. I'm sorry for saying this, but the album artwork ruse me out a lot. Yeah, I know me too. It's like paper mache. Yeah, it looks like it is painted or like paper mache or something, but also, kind of looks like a IR.

Yeah. I don't get a lot of her visuals are like that. They are like, ugly. Yeah. Like, I feel like her in Grimes of a similar style where yes, their artwork. Creeps me out a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's very cool, very cool. Creative. But yeah, she didn't interview with Zane Lowe for beats 1. She said, when you're with somebody, your lives become very entwined with like your friends and family and your routine.

And then the on meshing is your then, by yourself in this, you're figuring out your own morning routine, your own night, time routine. So very sad. I think one of the main songs that people think are about is about Robert. Pattinson is the song says hello. Theo love that song. Maybe I'll play a clip right here too, hard for you. Why don't I do it for you? Don't you do? Doing when I like to do is for you.

They Wanna See Us wanna see us. They want to see us when I see your support to see us want to see us. They Wanna See Us wanna see us apart. I just want to feel your love to share. I tried. Go. But the lyrics are like, didn't I do it for you? Why don't I do it for you? Why won't you do it for me? When all I do is for you they want to see us want to see is the loan. They want to see us.

Want to see us apart. And later, she says, when you're gone I have no one to tell and I just want to feel your there, and I don't want to have to share our love. It's sad. It doesn't sound true to life. The people did want them to be a part. Yeah. Hmm. And then she has the song home with you. And it seems like it's about a romantic partner. She says I'm so wired for it seeing it. I sorry. I'm so wired for it.

Seeing it tried it. I died for you on my terms when I get my lessons learned apples, cherries pain, breathe in, breathe out pain. No, no, novocaine still maintain my grace, how come? I didn't know. That you were lonely. If you'd have just told me, I'd be home with you. I didn't know that you were lonely. If you just told me, I'd be running down the hills to you. That's so sad, what's wrong? Whole name and a quick and that, but I don't know.

There was about, I don't even know if it's about him, but like, I feel like with cellophane, it's like, it's not only, like, the public like wanted us apart. Yeah. It's like, especially the music video, like she. There's this part two where so she's like, doing pole dancing. And then she like, kind of, like, goes up into like the clouds. Yeah, she's like, Flying around. There's a part where she's like holding a man's hands and then he like drops her.

It's like I feel like alluding to the fact like he didn't try. Yeah. The video is really beautiful. It's very graceful like mmm. You might not think of pole dancing that way but it is actually very beautiful. So beautiful. Yeah, then there's a song Fallen alien. She says, I was waiting for you. I was outside. Don't tell me what you want because I know you lie. I was Waiting for you on the outside or tell me what you want. Because I know you lie in the blazing sun.

I saw you in the shadows hiding from yourself. When the lights are on, I know you see your gray from all the lies you tell is that about, right? He is a little liar. He actually is. Yeah, and usually, it's all in good fun, but he just answers questions and total lies bet that carries over into his personal life has to I feel like he's developed this. What do you call it? Like, layer of protection. Yeah. Publicly that he must get

confused. Even personally, you know, regular people it's actually reminds me of a quote. I read a book? Yeah. I don't even think it's actually from Albert Einstein. No way. Yeah, so this is about marketing. Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters. Cannot be trusted with important matters. Albert, Einstein Albert, I said little Mister infidelity, I know maybe he was using himself verify that on this. I think he's such a cognitive.

Dissonance Albert. Einstein that like, yeah, he like probably not self-aware enough. He wasn't like, I'm a piece of shit. Yeah, but yeah, maybe, I mean I love Rob guys. I don't want you think I'm thrashing on him but if he is lying casually all the time, maybe he knows how to do it. Yeah. Because I think lying is a muscle. Hmm. You know and like the more you lie, even if you're lying to reporters and stuff like you're so used to that, that I feel

like he's gonna do that. Like, you're not. We're in a personal situation. You're not like, oh, this is what I'm supposed to be truthful. Yeah. Buying scary, but he obviously knows how to do it. Yeah, Comfort. Bleah jobs. He doesn't a lot. Okay. One more. One more song. They're gonna look at mirrored heart, she writes, but I'm never going to give up though. I'm probably going to think about you all the time and for the lovers who found a mirror, a mirrored heart.

They just remind me I'm without you. Did you want me at all? No, not for life. Did you truly see me? No, not this time. Were you ever sure? No no no, not with me. Oh that's so sad but it's heartbreaking but I do think he's didn't seem shirt base of answers about engagement. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even propose then. I know get that me like I hate to bring up Kristen. Okay. What is it? Because it's interesting because Suki Waterhouse and like, I know we'll cover them eventually to.

She released music just this last year. Mmm. FKA twigs is like I don't want to share our love and then sue. He releases music. That's like what does it say? She said something about like they're being someone else like in the relationship really like doesn't she say in this I don't really know her music that nobody can we talk about on the show? We were you love that part Listen to It's like she said something like I know but I don't remember I forget nothing

but like You talk to her. I know there's someone like and it like makes it seem like she has to share Rob with someone else. And it's like, is this like still Kristin even if Kristen even if he's not talking to Kristen, I feel like her presence in his life is like going to be a conflict with anybody. Maybe he is kind of afraid to commit in a way. It's like almost and I hate to say it like but he has to have a higher profile relationship then Kristen.

Yeah. Mokuba Forget about it, kind of like good. Who's someone else feel like they had a high profile on? I feel like we talked about some 100 like Miley Cyrus like her like Jonas, and then everyone forgets that. Yeah. Cuz then, Liam Hemsworth was even bigger, okay? But is that why? It's significant to him? Because it was high profile or because it was just such a pivotal time in his life. Oh yeah.

There's no way then it's hard. I think for us it was significant because it was high profile. But yeah I mean maybe he is still like private. Lee hung up on it, too. I think it's. It's hard. Like, it almost sometimes feels like when it comes to past relationships, like there was another life he could have had, and it's like, then he had this with Twigs. No Sookie and it's almost like, which life. I don't know. It might feel like It's getting so far from what it used to be

and I'm totally rejected. Yeah. But like I think he's not great. It seems, we don't know him. I'm making the women that he's with feel secure in their relationship for whatever and he's always hanging out. Katy Perry who I do. Y'all know if 36 this is bad you don't need friends of the opposite. Yeah I do. I don't know what he's doing. I don't know. But back to him and twigs, I might take that back. What? What? I just said, not needing friends with the opposite sex. I don't know.

Okay, oh my gosh, this is something I've thought about so much. I think that like the situation can just change. I think you can have friends the opposite. Yeah, but okay. Also, this is about we're having a heterosexual people here. Yeah. Sorry. But I think if you're in a relationship and you're There. Yeah it does start to get weird, it's all fun and cool when you're like teenagers and early twenties whatever. Yeah, because no one's really that serious.

But then I think when you're older and you're in a committed relationship and this is obviously like, heteronormative me, but it starts to get, like, yeah. What are you doing? Like why? It only becomes like, acceptable. Like other couples in a way or like other taking people or like you're, you know, my friends with both the people. Yeah, you're the friend like you friends of both the people. The relationship has to be like a mutual thing.

Can't be just you and your buddy like because people's Lifestyles change a lot, you know. I think it's less about like, oh everyone is hanging out like yeah. It becomes like a lot more intentional. Can you imagine if her dad's, like female friends? I just hanging out with one-on-one. Yeah. In the fact that Rob would lean on Katy Perry through these breakups. Like, I don't know, I don't get it. Yeah, I want to know what we're Linda Bloom things about it.

Yeah. So many people were mentioning in this. Yeah. Um, back to She talked about her album Magdalene to the guardian and she said, I think about robbed you said I hesitate to talk to you about it because I would love to have a piece written about me or my name is not attached to a man and then the interviewer said but you are doing something very famous and then twig said, but my work was so beautiful. It was so much louder than my love life, it was so much

louder. Yeah, I mean it's kind of tough because like yeah, you were dating Robert Pattinson. It's kind of comes with the territory and I don't know, I think a lot of never saw like, Ben Gibbard being like I'm sick of talking about Zoe or whatever. But but again she was a singer before she was with Rob and I could see being really annoying. Every time she's interviewed someone asks her about him. Yeah, exactly. Okay. This is for to talk about music

and relationships before. Yeah. But the music Still. Yeah, connects with people. I think it kind of takes it. Does someone want to get away with taking music? Yeah, to be like, what happened? Yeah. Sorry. Get what she's saying. Okay, so then in 2020, I know this seems like unrelated but actually does connect two eggs, zoos Shia LaBeouf physical and mental, abuse and knowingly,

giving her an STD good. And the court documents actually say, at the start of the relationship it says it mentions Rob and what document it says, summer 2018, a film which they both held lead roles when shooting on the picture. Wrapped later, that year, the two began a romantic relationship to Leah was in her vulnerable and sensitive state of the time as she had recently ended up four-year engagement and was recovering from having painful fibroid. Tumors on her uterus, unlike the mrs.

Later in the court document that says, on a continual basis. He meaning Shia LaBeouf aggressively accused her of dwelling on her former fiance well-known actor. Robert Pattinson and also accused to Lea of rushing in him. Into a relationship LaBeouf, would inexplicably escalate the most inconsequential. Oh, I cut it off. But yeah, I thought that was interesting. That is, when you breathe, that, she sued him. He's B like that being like,

that's very vulnerable. I call that would become public and stuff. You know, I feel so bad for her. I know what happened with a lot sutures to win. Oh, yeah, the trial is still not set till April, 20 23. Wow. No, it seems take forever. So yeah, I don't know what will come of that after all this, apparently she dated the 1975's Matt healing. Oh yeah. But they broke up to connected to next week's. He's connected to next example.

Yeah, Rob is still today with Suki Waterhouse and I mentioned as mentioned, he starred in the Batman, that was big for him. One thing recently, the people thought was connected to Rob Navy is that if a Twigs posted a video, Oh, but she seen lying on the grass and she lip-synchs the words and you know that I loved you and she added this caption that said when he's 6 foot plus looks malnourished with mommy issues.

And a lot of people that that was about Rob, I kind of like it's about Matt, he leave like that would make more sense. You rob does not have mommy. Yeah, I mean, maybe he does me. I don't get the vibe. Also back in the day. I think maybe he looked malnourished, but today's kind of buff. Yeah, Batman. This is a 20, 92. And yeah, I think it was really close to her break up with Matt Healy said, that makes sense to me. He's pretty skinny Dolly should be. Seems weird to.

Yeah. She's lived life since Rob. Yeah. But I thought it was just interesting. I mean I haven't investigated him his relationship with Sookie yet, but I feel like he's just gone back to being really private. Yeah, yeah, doesn't go to the Met Gala with her doesn't go to Gala other Galas, they just did that. At one bride from her pit and like, they have actually been together a really long time, like five years or something. Yeah. So he's like retreated again.

Yeah. And like that means I, we don't know, we don't know anything but like, it seems like there's a commitment issue there as well. I know, like, the relationship did not like engaged or anything. I mean, maybe they don't believe in anything. But he did, say back in the day like he said, he wanted to get married have kids and stuff that's going on. Yeah, it's interesting. I feel like I'm like an old grandma. It's a sea robin. Maybe I do though. Me, too.

Honestly, that kid, though. Can't jump or dive know that I can't. That can't be good looking. Yeah, sure. I think him and soon he makes sense like, they're both really goofy. Yeah, but yeah. She seems like a lot more. She's a model, she's a model. Yeah. What more fame-hungry? Yeah. But nothing wrong with that. Like it's the business. Yeah. Sometimes hard to be fame-hungry. If you want to be successful,

especially as my model. Yeah. Like she doesn't really have a. I mean she does music to yeah. But she heard music like last year started blowing up a little bit. Yeah, I liked it. Yeah, but a sound number. Like we talked about it. Like she had a little. She had a song. I was like Something, well, I didn't stick with it. I didn't keep listening because I don't remember it. It's like, does she call like this? She called. Yeah. Okay. With this is coming back to me.

Yeah, love it. It was like about another girl. Yeah. Yeah. But episode was that. It was our last one really literally. Okay, that wasn't even that long ago. No, got back in June. Well, that is Rob FKA twigs. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you Kelly for leading the episode. This was so fun. It was to get back into a little bit because we said we're going to do since while. I wonder if paid to exist Twilight since then I feel like it be painful. That's true. That's hard. But iron.

I know a life without never watching. Tyler. Like she would like new moon. Yeah. She's doing really, really? Yeah. Odds they'll go back together. Never Say Never. I still feel like it's pretty low though you. So because he's my Mizuki for a long time, what II feel like their problem could have been? Like, it seems like conflicting schedules but that it seemed like the relationship was a little bit rushed.

Yeah, and I'm sure that works for some people will like he seemed like he kind of felt like he almost made a mistake or something or like you you didn't sing ready to actually do it. Yeah. But he's thought about it. It's weird though because it's like they both seem like they would be perfect together. I know it's sad, sometimes. Your head can just get in the way of things, you know? I don't know. I feel like I see like, 10% or something. Yeah, me too.

Who gets custody of you? That's really, that's why should. This is the heart of? It seems like he was kind of like, quote, the bad guy. It's wrong. Yeah. I feel like yeah, me too. Yeah. Yeah. I have nothing against her. No, no. I wish it had worked out between sad. I feel like I need to know more about him and Sookie because at this point, like I don't really feel much about them. Me neither, I think she is a cute girl and stuff. She's I think they make sense.

But yeah, interesting, if I keep saying British people. Yeah, he's done with American Girls. Yeah, he's done with that. Yep. So look, it's tease. The next one, we had two hands. Broken engagement engagement. Somehow, Matt, Healy is involved and gonna come up next episode. He's not one of the people in the relationship but he, he will be mentioned. Oh my God, I feel like overwhelmed about this one. Yeah, this one of the people in the relationship is a musician.

One of the people, Is nominated for an Oscar. Okay, that's exactly obvious only like 10 people, there's four categories, okay? No, I think that's good. You didn't you didn't know anything? That's good. Yeah, oscar-nominated individual. Dating a musician. Broken engagement. Matt All right, I think if you know you really know right now but if you're not sure probably not, I love it. When people do their little investigators work to figure it out.

Yeah, so if you guys know, if you have a, guess you could email us or significant others at gmail.com, or if you have anything to say and if he remembers at gmail.com or Instagram, we always do a Guess Who thing on like Monday. So guess. Yeah. All right. I don't want to end it. Okay. Thanks you guys for listening and we'll get back together next week.