Are You Lonesome Tonight? You'll miss me tonight. Are you sorry? We drifted does your male brain. Hi, Welcome to our show. Welcome to significant lovers yet I'm Melissa. I'm Kelly. Wait, I'm Mel sorry I always introduce myself as Melissa and then I get stuck as Melissa. So Mel, you know, call me Mel and kelan kelan. And yeah, you might know us from the podcast, another bite of Twilight.
Where For almost four years. We looked back at our obsession with the Twilight Saga and we had a lot of fun. I still can't believe that we ended it for now. For now we might come back randomly, the future. And so you guys might here, if you're not a listener of Twilight, a lot of Twilight just brought into the conversation every now. And then, I hope you're okay with that were a Twilight friendly podcast, but if you hate, I've never seen no worries because it won't be too much.
And also if you maybe want to check out our old podcast, another bite our light, we have fun with it. We did we would laugh Adit Adit and with it with yeah because we loved it. And some criticism of course and so on our current podcast, we're now going to be talking about exactly as it says Nificant members throughout history and pop culture. So like we're really just focusing on other people's love lives and getting down to like the Nitty Gritty of. Like what happened?
Yeah, just the whole time. I'm the juicy details. Yes. Things that people don't know. Yeah, things that people do know but talking about them. Yeah, yeah and it was like, yes, we're going to do a whole Range of couples. I like I said, other people's relationships relationships. Yeah, because I do ours, honestly, my whole life. I've always been so fascinated by other people's relationships. And I think that's like a form of escapism, like not having to focus on your own.
But even in real life, like I was outlining to Kelly and her sister a couple weeks ago like my perception of like The relationship between our cousins like X baby mama. Well I guess current baby. Mama baby mamas relationship with her like second, baby. Daddy here. Oh yeah, yeah, I just love that stuff, but I love to sew in from the outside interpreted honestly, to be honest. What if someone did that with my love life? I'd be flattered. Not my mom, mom, not you.
But anybody else means you. Yeah, who wouldn't be? Ya? Did it never mind. What didn't you like years ago? Save, like pictures of me and my ex boyfriend, to your computer or something? I don't know. I think you were still in high school maybe. Oh, that sounds so familiar but I don't think I don't know what I would have done that. I don't know. I'm so familiar. I did, but I don't know why. So I'll just remember. Yeah. And speaking of we are cousins
would be say that. Oh, I didn't say that cousins were first cousins. Maternal, cousin. Yes. Some people say we look alike. Yep. Some people say we sound similar. Yes. So if that's confusing for you just give it a few episodes. Yeah. We'll figure it out. My life is pretty inverted. So if you're like a, that's going to be manager like figure that out because describing it that way. That's what. Oh, I don't like a type of laughs. I think so. Yeah.
Cuz it's like you're And word. So first episode first day on set. Yeah, first day, and it's kidding, it's a fun episode. So the way that the show is going to work, is instead of us both researching a couple one of us will take the wheel each episode and do the research, share, everything we learned and teach the other one stuff, and we're going to have half of our episodes, totally free, anyone can download them, and listen and then the Second half of our
episodes will be on patreon. Those will be exclusively other week and like the difference between those is like the main episode is like longer relationships. I think. And the patreon episodes are either like flings or like couples who are like newly dating like in the yeah. Right now, we're like, people who are just have, like, less extensive relationships, but maybe like are forgotten about. Yeah. They'll probably still be. On phone.
Yeah, they're not they're not many the not gonna be like 15 minutes. Yeah, even 30 minute know. Yeah. But they won't be. Yeah. Like the super long relationships like yeah. And you know, I'm sorry that sorry that they're not all going to be free. I know. You know, we're trying to make this a thing. Yeah. Yeah. So it seems like I want to buy something to like make the Acoustics like the thing you made. But it's better but we don't have any money for it. No.
Yeah. So so if you want to support the podcast and if you can get sounds terrible. Yeah. You're like gee this pocket has potential but it's not there. Yeah. Then you can subscribe to our teaching and then we'll get it there. Yeah. True also I hope you like DIY quality. Exactly. Yeah. You know, just really don't have a producer. Like there's no company. No, I'm telling us what to say? This is Real. Yeah. Yeah. The truth.
The truth. Yeah. Well actually I guess we should say we don't know. These people were talking about oh that's so true. We don't know them so like anything we say is purely speculative like if we're things are probably a confirmed if you're the arising. Yeah and like this this episode in particular there's going to be some theories that were going to discuss. Really? Yes. Also just so you guys know we're recording this on June 27th 2020.
Me too. So anything that we say about this couple that comes out after the fact, you're listening from the past. Wow, deep below recovering today is B.j. Novak Mindy Kaling. Wow. I just blanked on her. Last musical in your calling Catelynn? Right. It's utterly texting legs earlier when we were doing, is like a million times and everyone's like, what? There are a couple that yes, they are a couple. How will they were a couple? They just don't know. So we're gonna get into it.
Wow, you don't know, they are two stars and writers from the office, and they are both Massachusetts. Natives, why is that significant? So are we we're also from Massachusetts. So BJ was born in Newton Mass and Mindy is from Cambridge Mass, which is least live there. And those are pretty close. If you guys don't know and Yeah, they're born only one month apart the same year. They're like right next to each other. Yeah, I didn't even. Yeah. And so they probably like cross
paths, you know, at some point. What year were they? Born 1979 and they're both Wicked smart. Mnd went to Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, and BJ went to Harvard and Cambridge. My God, he went to school in Cambridge for Mindy is from. Oh, my God. So never met never met DJ stand for a Benjamin. Let me see, I've been wondering this. It could have looked it up. Blow job Benjamin Joseph and even chose it Benjamin. Manly Novak is two middle names. Wow, two last names. BJ.
Okay wait. I want to ask you. I'm stealing this from travelpod cast. Yeah, if you could describe this couple in three words, what would you say? Oh, okay, I would say confusing. I wasn't expecting that confusing. I would say. Lifelong mmm. And we chaotic. Okay, confusing lifelong chaotic. What would you say from from the outside looking in? Not having research thumb, is it too tough? I would from have, I don't know anything. Mmm, I would say mysterious.
Hmm. Friendship. Okay. Yeah, that's so weird. I don't know. Kind of, I don't know what a word for this would be kind of like, missed chance or something. Yeah, I don't know anything. Okay, well, you're gonna live. Okay.
So, yeah, as you guys know, they met during the office back in 2005, they are both 24 years old and they were both writers and actors on the office, which, you know, it's kind of easy sometimes like fall With someone that you're working with because you have no. Yeah, choice. But to spend all the time with them. So Mindy said, later in 2015, we became friends when we were still super young and also, because we were working sometimes 16-hour days at the office.
We did it for eight years. My God, that makes sense. And I think BJ said I didn't attribute this Koba. It's kind of, it's the kind of friendship when you, you have, when you are embedded with someone that you can only get by putting in that insane amount of Time with people and be. They also said, no one including us ever. Really knew is this dating? Is this not dating? We were never really dating. We were never, really, not dating. We didn't know. No one knew. He said that it was okay.
He said it, he said it. And then in an AMA, like ask me anything on Reddit, when asked who he was closes with on the office. He said, I was closest with Mindy Kaling and So the least closest Mindy, Kaling on a minute-by-minute basis and I wouldn't trade it for the world. Actually, I would trade it for the world. What am I talking about? I'd trade it for a more consistently positive relationship with Mindy Kaling. She's the best and then. Okay.
Why was it - I know I saw I was a huge fan of the office, I should say. And so actually, if you guys haven't seen any office, which I'm sure a lot of most people have their characters on The Office are inspired by a supposedly their real-life relationship. Yeah. It seems like just like a bad sign because I know Kelly and Ryan have a very like toxic off-and-on relationship where like she's super love with him.
Yeah. And like giddy over him and he like hates her and just goes along with it. Yeah. And he like can't stand her but then when she moves on he like wants her back. Yeah, he's kind of a tool and she's annoying. How could they write those characters though? About them. So I know. It seems crazy. I know I know they both just like, yeah, this is us. Let's act it out. I know. I know, I know. And can you imagine they're like in a fight and they have to,
like, make out on screen. But they are also because he was a writer to. Yeah, exactly. They're like inconsiderate yeah, role playing their own relationship in a way. Yeah, but like a heightened version of it must have been like oh where oh I think so. I think everybody was aware my God. So weird but okay here's a clip of BJ Novak in 2021 so well, it's really recent, really recent talking about their time
together on the office. The series you had an on-again off-again relationship with Mindy kaling's character and of course in life. And I know you've been asked about This a lot. So, forgive me for asking again, in life, you had an on again, off, again, relationship to and you're still very close. You're The Godfather to one of her children to both to both children, great did having that kind of on-again off-again romantic relationship, ever, get
in the way of the show. No, I mean, I think it fueled the show in the sense that all of us were putting everything we had into the show every day. So, if Mindy, and I had a fight or an argument, Other writers were taking notes, you know, or we would just improvise it on set. So, you know, none of us had lives. And I think that's why so many of us including me and Mindy became so close. You know, you go home at 2 a.m. or suddenly it's the weekend and you don't know anybody else.
So you just keep hanging out with everybody. So you know, but yeah, she's she's one of the closest or the closest person in my life to this day. So you'd have a fight and then With that turn into the funny version of the fight on the show. Yeah, I mean, the whole reason, our character started dating on the show is because people they couldn't get over this Dynamic. We had in the writers room that I didn't even neither of us realized was funny at all and other people would laugh and
shake their heads. And we'd say what and they'd say you to you do, and then before we knew it, you know, they had written written a Santa's as you know, this horrible partnership. So Are you dating at the time? You know, I think like, like Ryan and Kelly and like many people in their 20s, it depends who you ask and what our you ask it at, right, right? What was it? Like when you shot the final episode of The Office, where you glad I was ending was a really
sad for you cracked. Yeah, it was hard. I mean I think we were also ready to be done with it but because it had been so grueling for so long. But Two actually. I'm getting choked up now to actually, like the last shot of that I filmed was literally This would be a better moment on television Terry. Like on the radio it's your eyes tearing up. Yeah, I wish this were Barbara Walters in this world like a famous moment but you know it was Mindy and I running off into
the sunset together. Now it was it was a horribly and had a horribly dark under current, which was that I was abandoning my baby that I had left at the wedding to run off with her. But, you know, I remember it was a sunset. It was Mindy. And yeah, you know, it was the end, you know, it's sort of like, all right, my God, what I think is crazy is he's like it was Mindy and he's like crying. Yeah, you know what? Just doesn't seem Like the, I don't know.
I think it's sweet that he's crying but like, it seems like there's a lot to them. Yeah. Yeah. Why is he crying like if they were just friends? Yeah, and they were all o on great terms. I, we're just friends, that's really cheap because various, I mean, even people who are more than friends, don't cry. Okay. Also I know, I don't know anything yet but if their relationship was like Ryan and Kelly, I'm guessing it would be kinda his fault. It didn't work out.
Yeah, could be wrong. No, it's weird that he's like crying about it. You're exactly right. So apparently they were off and on like as a romantic couple from 2005 to 2007. But then in 2007 he officially broke up with her. My God and she was really heartbroken over it and she could like barely get out of bed and like couldn't eat. But they stayed friends. I think probably because I had too right? Yeah. While working on the office.
Hmm. Then in 2008 according to a blind item post it on young Hollywood John Krasinski. Apparently asked the book, I don't know if this is true by the way, these are like Anonymous emissions. Mm-hmm. And I learned this one actually through the fluently, forward podcast, John's Krasinski. Apparently asked the both of them to plan his wedding, to Emily Blunt, an attempt to get them back together.
Really, which is interesting because then in the episode, they run, Away into the sunset together. I do wedding. That's true. So I don't know what happened. True. The line item is as BJ's best friend. John knew his pal never really got over Mindy. They dated for for a long while but broke up over a year ago, because of the difficulty of mixing work and romance, but they're in love again, but get this then 2008. Mindy starts dating. A writer named Benjamin.
Nugent who I couldn't find anything on this guy. Truly nothing on this guy. That's okay. But they were together. And they were together to till 2012. And he actually is like, referenced in an episode of the office when Michael like, refers to some random, like salesperson my name. Really. Yeah, they say this guy's name. Hmm. But honestly, maybe I didn't do enough research on them but does not Mindy and BJ. Exactly. That's something you guys need
the info. That's something about our podcast is. We're really like Breaking it down on a couple, by couple basis. Mmm. So like, let's say we're covering Taylor Swift. Yes. You're not going to hear about Taylor Swift and like everybody else. It's gonna be a killer search in the person that we're talking about. Yes, yes, it's the one relationship. Hmm. Yeah. And of course there's other characters that play.
Yeah, yeah. So if you guys want to Mindy and Benjamin Nugent episode, you got it right? They look up in 2012. Okay, and so that's kind of timeline now. 2012 in July Mindy. Tweets at BJ. Come home. We'll listen to The Beatles and eat hers in and can you can explain art to me. Oh my God, and he responds with the wink Emoji. What? So I come home. Yeah. Come on. To the city. Yeah, come home to your apartment. Yeah. What does that mean?
That's super flirty winky face. And then in that same year, Rainn Wilson gives an interview with vulture and says, to do an imitation of Mindy. All you need to do is just be constantly texting and saying, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, and then looking up and going where his BJ. Okay. Yeah. Rainn Wilson, who plays something here? Dwight on the office. Yep. And then BJ tweets at Mindy in. 2012, text me back, please. And then he responded by saying Hey babe, what's up?
And then he responded. Oh Ted and then she responded? Oh text my bad and then he wrote actually this is easier. Are you going to that thing this weekend? What? Mmm. Okay. Back then people did have communicate over social media. Yeah true. I would do it too. Young Facebook right on somebody's wall. Yeah. I know. It's so embarrassing. Everybody say yeah you just go back and forth.
Each other's walls, you know, didn't like you couldn't see it like lined up the wall to wall people called it. Yeah. People don't even call it walls and I know because when it became there's no timeline. Yeah, tie line. Yeah, well I was cooler but you know what, though? They're still doing these public displays. I like cute seen us so it does seem a little bit for show sometimes, but will God bless also, BJ guest stars on the mend.
Project. And guys, I've actually never seen it. Maybe these are. And guys, like gonna admit that I guess, what? A good show. I'm sure. And by the way, I think Mindy Kaling is like a genius. I love. Never have. I ever seen it actually. Think you would love it. It's so good. It's on Netflix. It's like oh wait. It's a TV show. Yeah, it seems like a young girl. You don't thinking movie. Oh yeah, yeah, no it's really good. I love it so much. I should check. Check it out.
I should watch some the sex lives of college girls. Like, oh yeah, didn't she produce that? Yeah, I don't watch that. We have her book on the table. My dad actually gave this to me. Um, is everyone hanging out without me? And I remember wondering if he was giving it to me because of the title and he thought, like, oh Kelly is left out and they do, I love that. Reading it in school and like literally laughing up like out
loud and she's so embarrassed. It is my, I know I actually laughed a little bit reading earlier and she thanked b.j. and her acknowledgement. Wait, what did she say specifically? This is mean I wasn't supposed to do research because it's not my couple but I wanted to just like get in the movie. Yeah yeah. Um so I just looked at the book and so she lists like all these people and just a long Line of names thanking them. And then this is the first paragraph, but she does lost a
lot of people before him. But then she says, BJ Novak was a terrific friend and editor, giving me no sound notes. Like, hey Mindy, I think you sound kind of racist here. It would. I would really be careful about not sounding racist in her book. That's all she said. Okay. How many people did she think that? Was it a lot? Yeah, but didn't go into detail. Like, I'd like to thank my sweet and funny friends who helped me with this they are.
And then just name name, okay? What rank like what rank and what order is you think then I mean he's pretty far after all. Okay. Okay. I'm just saying there isn't much like personality with it, like she says they are Jeremy Bronson Danny Chung Alexis Dean Lena Dunham. Brent Forrester. Dan Gore, Charlie. Grandy Steve Healy very Kemper, Ellie Kemper Paul, Lieber stunt lieberstein, Daniel and mom. Danielle Moffat, okay, that is like a couple more names and then she says that about BJ. Okay.
So she gives bj like a lot of attention compared to everybody else. She said but she only calls him a terrific friend and editor but this was Like 2010 or something. Did you say she was with that guy? Yeah, she was in 2012. Did she think the guy in there it? What's his name, Benjamin? Which also Benjamin is actually be days real name. Oh, that's confusing. Yeah. Wait, Benjamin you didn't I feel kind of weird if I was Benjamin. Oh my God. I think he's not in the
acknowledgement. Wow. And I know the beginning is to her parents. What I feel. I mean maybe you know, she didn't know. Like is it gonna work out? I mean, I figured I'd be wearing if I was Benjamin and you're like dating somebody, you're dating someone and their ex gets. Yeah, thank you in the acknowledgements but not carrier. Yeah. Wow. Barry. Oh wow. And she does think him, I mean I know she did.
I don't know. Maybe it's just the book because a lot of it's about like friendships and stuff but she left like all her friends first. Yeah, then BJ, then like her family and like editors, it's so significant. She also does we should mention. She has a second book as well which I think I do but I don't know if she thinks him but that's it. Probably that's very
interesting. Hmm. So I don't know, I think when BJ does guest star on The Mindy Project, he plays a love interest and they do like, make out and stuff, but I'm not positive, I should know it. But I think he does. This is so interesting. So then also in 2012, they had a Lakers game, there's no video evidence of this, but it was reported that BJ & Mindy. Make the kiss cam and they do share a little Peck. Hmm, not a full-on kiss, but there isn't like a video.
There's no way. It made headlines. Oh and wait, so she's already not with Benjamin. I hope so anyway. Yeah, who knows? You know? Yeah. So then into 30 2013. She tweets a him. You're my soup snake, they use this term a lot on the internet. Oh, what does it mean? It's a reference to an Office episode when Michael wants to confess his love for Holly but he can't. Read his own writing.
So he mistakes the word soul mate, her soup snake and I have a clip what I wrote down a list of bullet points by Holly and I should be together, and I'm going to find the perfect moment today. And I'm going to tell her number one. Holly you and I are soup snakes there and the reason is Because in terms of the soup, we like to eat. That doesn't make any sense. We're soul mates, Holly and I are soul mates. So I chose to go long. I never mind.
The reason is but that's interesting that they constantly referring them so much. Soul. Mate. Yeah. So amazed but yeah, to say soup snakes, it's like, I don't do they write the joke is that They call it that or are they? Like they, they're soul mates but they're too afraid to say it. You know, that's you don't say that. Just like about your eggs are ugly or just your friend. No, not normal.
It's super cute. And there's a Tumblr actually who I got a lot of information from called soup snakes. I want to give him a shout out because they're like, obsessed a shipping account. Yeah, BJ said and Entertainment Weekly that Year, whenever we date. Anyone else. I think there's a period when the person is very skeptical of our friendship. Everyone seems to think you two. Might be a couple and I don't want to get in the way. Are you sure you're not dating?
Are you sure you're not going to end up dating. It's a very common thing to have chores. A platonic best friend, that becomes a little weird. When you start dating someone well, but like I could see that like yeah, would you feel comfortable dating him know likewise with this friendship? Yeah. So then in may they attend the Met Ball together. They're d-cups about it and they weren't officially dating. No! Oh my God, will not publicly then. In November Mindy, tweets.
You give any song in the island cover of it, better than the original? Okay. I think I've missed wrote that, but I think she said you give me. Oh, you give me any song and the island cover of it, and it is better than the original. And then BD respondent, says, nothing compares to you and Mindy tweets, back. If we get married, I insist John Mayer, sing and perform this version at the reception, every time we're getting married. Yeah, okay.
BJ just said, yeah, I feel like if we date other people, they'd be really confused about the relationship. Like, you can just be platonic, best friends with someone and then I talk to you about getting there. Is she actually Kelly from the office? I know like I know or is she like stop it and so then he responds and says I have to agree that would be very us of us to have a famously wrenching breakup song. Play at our wedding rings. What the fuck?
I know that is confusing. So that in 2014, Mindy goes on the Howard Stern Show and he talks about their relationship past interviews. Yep, I got a clip. It's going to sound a lot. Like a Christmas dinner interview actually. Have you had a great love in your life where it just hurts that it didn't work out. Yeah, you have. Yeah. Why did it not work out? Um, because this is all I am. It sounds not, it's again, not profound. But like people are so different and you can overlap in certain
ways, but that are important. But not the ones that are the most important or something. Do you check him? Did you you still in touch with this guy? Yes. Do you know what he's up to do? You know if he's married now and he's here? He's not married. No matter. No, but you check on him. Yeah. He's a good friend of mine. Yeah. We've had smart. Why are you set you back up with this guy? I think it could work. You look like you're in love. We're he's my best friend.
So it's that's not. He broke up with you. You broke up with him. He broke up with me. I wantam back. You would take him back? No, no. Because it was B with yours of years ago. That that breakup happened. That's actually the life was this guy. Oh man. Wasn't it was pretty. Damn good. Yeah, real good. Oh good. He won him. Funny smart and funny guy. When he broke up with you, did you get angry? Oh, so sad. Not angry sad. Sad. That all. That was the fuck.
That was the hottest I've ever looked as I stopped eating right good for you. When I get depressed, I stopped eating. So I was so miserable and I was so beautiful. I remember nothing like waking up barely getting out of bed and we work together but I don't care. I had no makeup. I was I just I could just in all of my clothes fit so well and but I didn't, I was real miserable. I think the guy that you were in love with was the guy you co-starred with on the on the office.
He's on the office. All right my wrongs. Yeah he was he was the guy. Well he's my he's yes you're correct. Not that mystery was not you're not Sherlock Holmes or anything our Sherlock Holmes, a bromance. Okay. That's right. That's what they call me. Who have you known for ten years? Who you worked with? Who know what? He's legitimately one of my best
friend's he texted me before. This being like, good luck on Howard, can't wait to hear it. He's been on my show, my new show, he was a producer on the pilot. I see him all the time. If he asked you to marry him, you would have At the time. Oh yeah, wow, yeah, wow.
Yeah. I mean, it would have, it would have been, I was 24. And if any of hurt, but for the record of anyone asked me to marry me, I would have to probably do when you're 24. Like you ask any girl like someone thinks about me. Yeah, right. Hey, I'll get married to you sure. Thank you truck, but he's wonderful. He's a wonderful guy. Let's hope he calls you tomorrow
and asked you to marry him. I'm not the one thing about this is that I love it, but I think he's a great person but we don't, I'm not holding a Well for, but I believe if he called you tomorrow and said, listen, I made a terrible mistake, we must get back together and get married. You would do it II. Don't know, I don't know. I it's not a no. Okay, that's it. All right. We'll get you a boyfriend. Don't worry about it. Actually, I'm going to hit you
with this price BJ's here. Now, he wants to say something to you. He wants to, I don't know why. He doesn't mind being your mom and dad will get you a boyfriend. So fun wasn't like good for you and the way he says, like he asked you to marry him, would you say? Yeah. That's just like what? He, I know by the way guys, on our past progress. In other words, what we did to our episode about Rob and Kristen. Yeah. And I kind of like inspired this show. Yeah, it's kind of the origins.
Yeah, we just had so much fun with that episode. And maybe will re-air it, or you could just go faster, but yeah. Um, but yeah, I feel like Howard Stern. Really was I feel like he like made Kristen get engaged. Their current wondering. Yes, because he asked mood. Yeah. Um, yeah. Totally you like next time she was on. He's like, all right. So you're engaged. Yeah, he's like yeah, it took two years actually. I don't know why. I get the sense that she just
like goes along with the weight. The ball is on into the green vest. Sex of your life, right? How does he do that? I love that. And they're like, they're so willing. Yeah. Why do they? I wonder I haven't listened to enough of his show but like I wonder if this ever people that are like, yeah, there's dare you ask me that? No, I think people have so much respect for him that they like they want to open up. They probably know going on. Yeah, exactly the so, yeah, she
really opened up there. She did. I'm hoping it's like, like, hopefully BJ will call my mom. I know. Oh my God. So then DJ response. He's asked about this one several interviews. You kidding me. He says, what was your reaction to Mindy?
Kaling's, Howard interview her interview with Howard Stern, where she talked in depth about your relationship starts about how heartbroken she was when you two broke up, I thought it was it sounded to me. An honest and heartfelt account of a complicated and mostly wonderful relationship. And the the highlight of that experience for me was my Mom calling to sort of pry. Like so what do you think of what Howard was saying? It sounded pretty interesting to
me like that. Howard Stern would somehow end up as part of my mom, sort of gentle hearing is when you get a Juke are life to be. Did it? Did it? Did she must have learned things about your relationship from the Howard interview. It sounds like I supposed to Yeah, awkward for you. We're adults at this point so now that you're mentioning it. Yeah, it's a little awkward and then he's also asked about it on Queen Latifah show. You were her great love.
Is there something you want to tell us about it? You know it's funny this is what happens I get so tongue-tied trying to explain maybe this it will help you give it up. Thanks for making it less awkward. The thing is, you know, she is in many ways. The great love of my life and and she's much closer to me than a friend and yet, we're not in a relationship. And so, I usually take forever describing all the things that
isn't isn't. But then, when I'm done, like sweating by trying to describe this complicated thing, usually the person I'm talking to says, oh yeah, I have something like that, too. Like, I feel like everyone has this. You stay tuned? Yeah, absolutely. That's right. You're making the face is like it's sweet. He's got something like that. Everybody's got someone everyone's got their Mindy. Kaling lady right there. She's got a Mindy Kaling. Yeah, I can see it.
I can see it. So that's perfect. So, I'm very lucky to have the actual Mindy Kaling. Yes, you are. We love you. Something. No. Okay. I think everyone maybe has somebody. That still means a lot to them and maybe Xanex. Yeah. But I think that's That's normal. Yeah, I think that's very normal, but I don't think the like them staying in your life and it being still that like, passionate, yes, very normal. And it's kind of sad.
But, I mean, I don't know anything about their like current situation and I'm sure you're going to tell me but I just feel like it must make it very hard for them to have like to move on. Oh, how like a successful other relationship? I mean, how are you? Be like that and be married to somebody else. I definitely had something like that. Don't have it anymore because how could I have a happy life having something like that? Yeah, like to me.
That's that's something that people have in their early 20s, though. Yeah, that's true. When they're young, like, it's very normal for people to break up and then be x's and then, like not know how to like let go of that connection, but it's not sustainable for your whole life, you know. It's almost so frustrating hearing him describe it that way. I'm like, yeah, just be together then, yeah, it's He's like, well
into his thirties. Yeah. I don't think it's not normal to be that age talking about like that and I think being the chief are really awesome. You're so right. He's like I think everyone has them like that again. Maybe in your 20s. Yeah, I like Tony's whatever. I don't think you can have something like that and be with somebody else. No, I was going to say. Yeah, advice.
If you start dating someone and they have someone like this in their life, Don't Run Away Tom wrong, my experience don't fall. They're even if they insist. There's nothing going on. Don't bother ya. Yes. We don't waste because it's weird. You got, you don't want to be with someone who's so close with their ex. Yeah, because why, why can't they let go? You know, even just a little bit? Yeah, make me more of like a distant friend but when it's like, you're texting all the
time, like the only defense? Yeah. When your best friend is your ex, yeah, you do not need to be best friends with your eggs. Never like get the chance to I think see. Them as like a different role in your life. Yeah, exactly. There's still going to be that go-to person. Yeah, I think if they're casual friends, they're moved on. Yeah. Like if they can see them and they're like totally indifferent and like don't care.
Then that's a good sign. But to be like like talking all the time, talking about your marriage like hypothetical marriage on Twitter for everybody to see that's a red flag. Yeah there and I'm kind of You mean honestly right now b.j.? And this whole situation the way I mean. Yeah. He broke up with her. Yeah. And then I don't know. I feel like it's kind of on you sometimes when you break up with someone to step back. Yeah. I think that could be really
hard. Yeah. And I know it seems cruel to but like, I think it's actually just torturing somebody to like, keep I think so, you know, talking to them and seeing you miss them or I mean, I don't know if he did that, but, yeah, kind of guessing the way he's talking. Around it and these answers you have like I will say that, you know, it's a honest account of like you don't, ya know, she's making it sound like no big deal.
Yeah. Yeah, so also in 2014, Mindy and BJ for some reason, I have no idea. Why do a little, like, When Harry Met Sally, Recreation, what, or People magazine, where they dress up as the characters. And I think either go to Katz's Deli or they're like in a set that looks like it and they like do a little clip for People magazine. So that's about something great can men and women be friends. That's a perennial issue. Not one that I've ever thought about what you because women and
men can't be friends. I was going to say that good my favorite scene. When our Masala is probably when Billy Crystal is lying in bed, after his first night with Meg Ryan. And you hear his inner monologue, I found that very, very funny and honest, the crystal was straight-up. Hot in this movie. I think people forget that, he wasn't like SNL. Guy, he was like, he wasn't serious. Yes, wait, we we meant different things by? Yes, I'm not. He's very handsome.
Yes, my favorite scene is when Billy Crystal's wife has just left him and he meets Meg Ryan at the bookstore. And he's been so cocky up until that point and he's just sort of like, broken down and sad and it was just kind of unexpected for him. In this movie, he's in at, she's just being super funny and Loki, love this movie and I love their relationship in the movie. But I don't think that you And I are like this at all. I think we are well now, you're
just being contrary. I think you're actually more like Aaron. I'm like Sally. Probably yeah, like art this these lunches. I mean, you can be a little overconfident and I can be a little, like, fussy and I like, strawberries that have Anila. If you have it, if not the no ice cream just whipped cream. But only if it's real, if it's out of a can and nothing.
But it's very endearing that he's a little fussy and it's now that there's a camera going, you're being nice but you don't find it. Do, I always loved everything about you. Oh boy, the fratus in your voice. I'll come back over to my side of the table. I love you, too. But doing things like awkward, that they're even like recreating this movie where the two best friends end up together. Yeah, that's so interesting. And they dated. Yes. Yeah. It's not like they've never
slept together. Yeah. Like they have a table obvious, physical attraction to each other. I feel like he's weirdly in. That's just one. Call it. One little moment of their lives, but I feel like he's trying to like, put it on her that like, she doesn't actually like him or something. Oh, really, why did you get yeah? Well, he says, um, like oh now the cameras rolling. Oh, yeah. And then she says that what you just said?
But she says something really nice and he said, like her voice was fraught with some bowling and I didn't get that. Yeah, it's like he's saying like, you don't really like me or whatever you want. I wonder if this they play this thing off for the As though, like, if they want to make it seem like they have this, like, romantic friendship or if it's real. If it's real, they're like wasting. Well, we'll get to that.
So, then also the same year, BJ publishes, I would struggle with this word Memoir Memoir Memoir. One more thing on the knowledge mints page. He writes, thanks Mindy. I love you. And you're the best. What kind of weird roosting your? So you love your ex I think that's the thing. They're not just best friends. There are? Yeah, yeah. 2015 in May? She tweets. Love means never having to say. Hey, are we dating?
Oh my God, directed at anybody. Yeah, but I think you can infer who that's a massive something to eat. Yeah. Oh that's sad though. Also that year and there's a lot of things I'm not including in this because there's so much. So like I'm just kind of taking highlights I moved here. Also, that year she says in an interview with InStyle, he is not my boyfriend, but he's not
my best friend. I guess you could describe our relationship as romantically charged camaraderie with loud arguments, but I don't think Facebook would accept this as a new status. This is like almost triggering me. Yeah, I know. Yeah, same. Okay, 2016. Here we go. This was a big year. Oh, geez, January. He's asking an interview if anyone in the world could kill him without repercussions. It would it be and why? And he said Mindy Kaling, she wouldn't even need a reason for that.
She's just TBD. She's just TBD. Like, her reason is. That's an interesting question. Do you have an answer to that? Hookah kill me without repercussions? Yeah, I was it if someone was to murder me, who would? I think we're like the suspect. Yeah. Is that like what the question is asking know, I think it's really, who would want to kill
you? Yeah. I see my mom maybe but like, not because I think my mom's gonna kill me but I think it could be like a crime of passion, because she's a doesn't want me to leave. That was, maybe cut that out, but yeah, yeah, I think Mom would be a common and people, but is the quiet, okay? Hey, if we answered, who would want to kill, who would want to kill me? That's a good one. I can't pick. Why would someone want to kill you? It's crazy. You know. Why would some?
I feel like a former friend want to kill you from middle school? Oh yeah. That would have been my answer to but I think that'd be crazy. Yeah, I don't think like I don't know, I'd be shocked if there's someone in the world.
I don't know if any of your former friends like have such proud up. Feeling I have to say what this prism Satanist, anybody, I noticed that there is this guy who was watching my Instagram sores all the time, but does not follow me and it's someone who I do not know when. Oh, really, yeah, but always watches them watches every single one. You creepy? I know. It's not weird, so should walk, but he recently followed me. So you're that person I'm onto you but I see it. Yeah.
What the heck? But I don't know who they are. So this person has to go to my page all the time and watch it. I probably should just block it. That's interesting. May of that year. Many posts a photo of her and BJ or her mouth is resting on his shoulder in the caption reads. Hey, I'm wrapped now which I think is like wrapped from TV show. Oh, I feel like I should show it to you. You see? Yeah, okay, let's see. Oh yeah, he's in the picture. Mmm, this is for wrapping her show.
The Mindy Project. Oh my gosh, that's weird. This is lot of pictures. Yeah. Host with a friend, it looks really cuddly. Mmm. Like her headed her mouth. Yeah. Resting on his in his head is like her lean back against hers. Mmm. She's staying always confusing. Hmm. On a panel for something. I don't know what it was. He said important I think Facebook invented. It's complicated for us. Oh my God.
I haven't been D. September that year slate released an article ranking power couples in tweeted, that BJ & Mindy. Would make the list if their relationship was confirmed and BJ liked the tweet and December that year, okay? And this she does a lot. She post a picture of a Hanukkah and Indian Fusion meal for Hanukkah and Christmas Eve. She's not Jewish. Yeah, he's Jewish. Hmm. Oh my God, and she posts a lot of like is yes. And she and throughout the years.
From this point on, she posts a lot of like Like her celebrating Jewish holidays in this book that's looking at. Earlier she has a chapter called Jewish guys. Oh my God. That's weird. How would she know the mannerisms of Jewish guys? So well, exactly, exactly. And it's kind of interesting because it's the county of a douche because you needed because this is one that just keeps coming up, okay? 2017 Mindy Kaling shocks, shockingly unexpectedly. Gives birth to her daughter in 2017.
Yeah. But doesn't say who the father is like, nobody even knew that she was pregnant and she doesn't even list a father on the birth certificate. Wow, the fuck sources say she refused even tell her close friends who the father is and that the Monte was an unexpected surprise. Oh my God, which is interesting because I assumed that she just like had a baby with, like a sperm donor. Usually, really wanted to be a mom, but like, it sounds like, why wouldn't you just say that?
Yeah, exactly. So, I don't, I mean, we don't, she's just like does. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like tough because it's like, I don't want to speculate like, you know, like people can, you know, do a sperm donor. They can do whatever they want, like their pots of Parenthood, but in this book, I know she could have changed her mind. Maybe that was like her younger self, but she says, she never has one night stands.
Interesting. That isn't I just really like flipping through this book, 20 minutes till your dad is a good. She's like I don't care how people do it. She said she never had. Okay, I mean granted she could have is a long time but by yeah, wow, I did listen to the podcast fluently forward. Hmm. They were theorizing that there's rumors that she had that the fault and I truly do not think this is true.
Okay. So this is really don't think, yeah, that supposedly The father of the baby is, oh my God, I'm forgetting his name but he's the guy who played o.j. Simpson and that miniseries. The people versus o.j. Let me look it up. I didn't watch it. Sometimes I still hear about things like but I don't know he his name is oh, Cuba Gooding jr. Oh, really hmm, But why do they think that there's photographs of them together, mmm, like, on
a date or something? But this guy, first of all, I think you might have been married but also he was accused of, like, really bad stuff I think recently. I don't even 2017. But that could be why she doesn't want people to know, but I gotta be horrible. I know. I truly don't think it's, yeah, this guy face. So off, Mmm. But like I said, I yeah, believe it, but a lot of people think it's BJ. Novak's child.
That's true. But Mindy said in an interview my feeling is that until I speak to my daughter about her paternity. I'm not going to talk to anyone else about it. People do think that BJ is the father of the child and she said if I was on the outside looking at it, I would think the same thing. But the truth is BJ is so much more like family now than a place now than a platonic friend, we're like family. Now, then a platonic Friend. Yeah. How does that even gate? Remember.
Yeah. So he's more than a platonic friend. Yeah. He's like family. Like your husband? Yeah. Or like your brother? Yeah. Because your brother is still at the end of the day, a platonic friend. You sure to never say someone who slept with his? Like your brother? No you can't baby like gossip, third cousin. Yeah, Uncle Ono. No, I'm not saying that you do that. But this thing, what would be a relation like the feeling? Now it's been said, Uncle you're just like oh he's like family
but like what? He's like family like maybe they can in law. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah but also she says they're so close. He's looking brother-in-law's. Yeah. Yeah. They're not good. That's not appropriate. I know. None of this is appropriate. Yeah. So he's I think the Godfather to my daughter he comes over like once a week sometimes. We'll come over just to hang out with her once a week. Just if he was a father, that's very odd that he would be the Godfather. I agree.
I agree. That's why I hired think at the end of the day that he's not the father because I would think what a terrible person he's The Godfather or he's the biological father but he chooses to just go by God. That's really bad. Yeah there's no that's really weird. Like yeah. The father know you want to be the father. Be the father is god father doesn't really mean anything and really do anything I know. Yeah it's me. You get the extra gift. Also I think I mean technically
speaking he is Jewish, right? I mean, this isn't Godfather. Technically mean I know that it's been not enough movie cuts that, but technically means it's like the person who would like, the root of a Godfather is, like the person who like carries on the child's faith, not that it has to be a way like I know that like now it's kind of just meant to be like an adult was like a more special pigment. Yeah. But you're right. It is supposed to be someone
that helps like guide you. Yeah, spiritually I guess but there's no like technical need for a Godfather. Not that it really matters like it's just interesting, but I know it has become more secular. So 2018, he spotted holding her daughter on an outing. I think I'm self with her. No, I think it's just interesting. So then and it doesn't easy Mindy. Kaling is in the movie wrinkle and time and BJ. Novak tweets. A photograph of a poster for the
movie and rights. When I first met Mindy she lived in a small apartment on Fairfax. Ave this is what is in front of the building today. And it's like the Poster. Congrats Mindy and a future. Congrats to all those who will see it in are inspired to do great things and then me Mindy responds. Oh my God, I'm like full crying. I'll never be mad at you again. What we're getting a lot of like, references to the fact that they fight all. Yeah. Oh my gosh.
I want to know, I know. So 2019, they attend the Oscars after party together, which actually, I should say, I think even before this year they attended it like Every single year it's another tips on surprising interesting. And may they attend the premiere of her film late night together, like as dates in July of that year, at his 40th, birthday party. When everyone is singing, happy birthday to him, she has his arm, he has his arm around her really aren't happy birthday part.
What? Which I think is gonna be crazy. Like yeah, you would have your arm around someone. Yeah. And any other time, but when people are actively singing. Yeah, there's any happy birthday. Like, that's when that mean bought light is on you. Yeah. I don't understand. No, you don't have your arm around. Just anybody during how you break? Yeah, that's like significant. Okay, we're going to take a clean here so 2020 don't tell me
to look you look to the side. Yeah we're going to take a turn. So we have this lie, cute little friendship, you know, like and we're like what is going on? What confusing friendship 2020? There's a lot of blind item tips to do. Duma just like an Instagram account for those who don't know, which is like, anonymous tips or not anonymous tips about celebrities for BJ is photographed at this influencer event because you apparently is dating an influencer there.
And like the person who submits the tip is like, it was really awkward like he was really out of place and like, he's like dating some young influencer influencer, like an Instagram and you probably know this already, but on the podcast Red, Scare the house. Let's talk about how PJ is constantly sliding into the DMS of different girls in NYC who are like in their 20s for the, and that he even message one of the hosts and one of the other hosts roommate.
Yeah. Which is But what are the odds? Yeah, like you're probably messaging. A lot of several people know each other. Here's enticing. And then someone on Reddit commented, okay, I am definitely not in the know or anything, but I do have cutesy artsy friends that are in Brooke that are broken base and BJ. Novak, does this shit does this shit a lot? So the point where my friends, make fun of him because he's constantly trying to pull. I mean this could all just be like rumors but it is
interesting. When like a lot of people say that. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's even I'll get to it but there's like stuff to back it up. I think like people oh I don't actually have this specifically because I think they're really good about having this not on the internet but people have posted like his screenshots from what's that dating out that like for celebrities? Yeah, right yeah, right yeah. He's like Chinese very active on, really?
I do wonder if he's been like this, like the whole time. Exactly. That's what I think. And that's why they're not together because he can't come in. Yeah, which is pathetic. Are you serious? Yeah, that's sad. So, once again, they attend the Oscars after party together 2020 also. Then in March they quarantined together for like What? Mmm, interesting in April. They celebrate Passover together.
Interested in September, she tweeted that she gave birth to a baby boy named Spencer, which wait interesting. Okay, what's like nine months before? April. Oh no. Okay, never mind. Whatwhat is going to say, oh my God, I'm losing. What's nine months before April? Maybe it was the beginning of quarantine but oh yeah it's actually one month. Yeah. Okay. Actually, what is think about it? So bad at this kind of thing. Oh, wait, don't you just go three months ahead?
Oh yeah, true. Then I get confused. Like so the August or sighs? Well, his July is his 40th, birthday party. Oh my God, that night. Yeah, you never know. Wait, what was the day? I so great but I didn't think about, I don't know where you're going to get into this episode 1. It's like was his birthday on the same, okay. August 1st, August 1st. This is where I die. And then the date of her son's for the party. Could have been like the end of July. Yeah. Oh, wait a minute.
Do I have the date completely wrong? I'm guys I have the day. What is that? She gives birth on October 20 20 So what 6 months before, October are nine months just January? I don't know anything about January and February. I know. They attend the Oscars offer party. Yes I'm hanging out there. Hanging out. Of course once a week. The hands we. Yeah. But it could have been the first. Yeah baby Donnie. So people have no idea who the second one is to. Yeah. As usual, don't know either.
There's no dad listed on either birth certificate. Wow. She's interesting. I do think it's I'm not sure what I would do in that situation but I think I In which he's saying that like she's waiting till she tells her daughter exactly imagine feeling a little betrayed like, oh yeah and the world. Yeah be like oh my gosh. Yeah just that other people knew and you didn't. I just think it would be odd if
her father really was b.j. Novak and he's in her life and honey, it's BJ. Yeah, I mean it really could be like, maybe they did decide that like they were gonna have a baby together but like why isn't just being in that role of not bother very confusing. So yeah, she keep birth to a baby boy named Spencer in December. She posts a photo celebrating Hanukkah.
Hmm, with the kids interesting. She also gave an interview about her Christmas traditions and then says that BJ dresses up as Santa. What's the kids What the fuck is this? I know they celebrate the holidays together. I just think that she celebrated Passover. No, yeah, yeah. With the kids, the kid is this fork in her? Yes. Celebrate Jewish holidays. Yeah, as a BJ. Yeah. What How can they not be together? I know. I don't understand it 20:21.
He posted a selfie with Mindy and captioned it this in September. I don't usually ask for selfies with celebrities, but saw my favorite star last night and just had to talk to see her all the time. And on, Good Morning America. He said that he sees Mindy several times a week. Sounds like Then that your there's a dual Duma. I don't never want Doom. What? Admission titled BJ. Hose. Let's get lunch and someone says how many 20-somethings is BJ trying to get with lately?
As one of them. I think we should all get drinks without him, there's so many things I want to talk out. Talk about with my fellow. BJ hose. Wow, sporty trying to get with these girls in their 20s about PJ mountains. And then someone This is on Twitter and I saw this on Reddit and someone commented fellow New Yorker here. And I can say he deaf does, he's out all the time and Lower East Side and goes to these certain parties that are supposed to emulate.
The early 2000s, aesthetic that a bunch of people in their twenties go to it's honestly pretty cringe TV H he's cute but he would be hot if he wasn't slumming it up. Being so thirsty. This is coming from a woman in her mid-20s that hangs around, downtown and Bushwick. Oh My God. Yeah we live in Bushwick. Yeah. Oh, I don't know what is parties to try to find like what are you doing? Let me give him the benefit of the doubt.
Like, maybe because of this, like intense relationship that he has with her, he feels like he can only Only date people in their 20s who like aren't looking for something serious. How is it going to have a 40 year old girlfriend with this whole natural? Like no, because going to put up with that. Yeah. No one's going to know what doesn't make it right. No. But maybe he is so afraid to let go of Mindy. The he's purposely like you could just had purposely having really short things.
Exactly, when people who don't want something serious, although Oh I bet they do probably celebrity. Yeah so yeah smart situation but like you never know like maybe he doesn't want to be with Mindy because he wants to still hook up with these young girls and if so that's wicked icky. Like I know that makes me sad. Like she's just putting up with this for some reason. Yeah. Like girl hope not. I know. I think she's dark. Yeah. She's way too good for him. Yeah.
Most people know who Mindy Kaling is. Yeah. Most Probably, even though that's true. The office is super popular motion. Probably do not know who the dad is like if you just ask someone on the street, yeah, I know. Because I don't know. Just even the way she said, like, oh any girl would marry anybody? Like I hope she doesn't still have a little bit of that feeling. I know something. That's I don't think that's really for. I was. Yeah, I'm not ready.
I'm 26. I do not want to get married. Just everyone has this you? Yeah, yes. So I don't know. Anyway, also, speaking of young women, there's a lot of blind items in pictures of him hanging out with Kern and shipka. No, that is. Yeah, she wasn't, she Sabrina didn't the Remake. Yep. And she's 20 years younger than him. Wow. So pictures of them like hanging out and there's even a picture of them hanging out with, like, John Mayer.
It's a people. Obviously, people hate John Mayer, oh my God, he's grooming her. And like gosh, like they're actually our tweets between curing in and BJ like all the way back. As far as I 2015, angrily tweeting at each other. It's like, okay, she actually look at that. Ines. Yeah. But I'm gonna hope that it's like not a romantic situation. Yeah. Hopefully maybe they work together or something. Yeah, kind of.
Yeah. So it seems regardless like it just even if they're fine to see your ex even if they are She doesn't really care. It would suck to see him just out and about with all these like 20 year old girls. Yeah. For some reason I get the impression that she lives in LA, but maybe if she lives in. Yeah, I I know. I'm like the elderly don't have any knowledge but it's not like little bio thing. It said she lived in Los Angeles. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, she does some but it does he live there too?
Well why is it always out doing this stuff in the lower? Yeah. Yeah we also hang out all the time. I think you're right though. I think she means she did live in New York forever. Maybe. I think a lot. So he's living like both. Yeah. It definitely does live in Los Angeles. Yeah to. Hmm. But they are hanging out several times a week, so maybe he just has been emotional. Work on the weekends. Well, speaking of parties, I got what he's in October of that
year. He's, they're spotted in Malibu together. Oh, really okay. But also, I actually skipped ahead September of that year. He doesn't know their ammo. I'm not it and he's asked his favorite person is and he says my goddaughter. Oh, just interesting. How were his responses at the years? Like, I don't know, I don't know. I don't think capital letters. I didn't want to say it's just as it is. Is my goddaughter. Okay?
So I don't know the capitalization since October that year, they take the kids trick-or-treating together. Wow. November of that year so close. He's so involved. Yeah. November they go to the premiere of her TV show the sex lives of college girls together and means December. Wow! Mindy in DJ, go to Disneyland together with her kids and a witness says that she's holy that he was holding her son and he kissed the Just which is you know, these are cute. Maybe, yeah, he's the Godparent
to both the kids. That's so interesting. Yeah. What the heck is this? It's interesting because it's like, I have two brothers, but like I wouldn't make both of them. Like one of them, The Godfather to both. Yeah. If I had more than one kid, but no, maybe that's just because I have two brothers. But she have a brother. Yeah, she does actually yeah, yeah. So that's interesting. BJ's the Godparent. For both of them. Yeah, Godfather. I feel like people don't do that. Like I hate yeah.
Especially if you have more than one kid, it's like more than one opportunity to like give other people like a shout-out. So true, most people don't have the same person. I wonder who the Godmother is. Hmm. Is the Godmother actively involved like those? I don't know. It's a good question. Yeah. And then December mini post a picture for Christmas of her fireplace and Mindy and BJ have stockings. Next to each other on the
fireplace. His name is Janna Ru says be system, but people say that she calls him the sweet pea, I know. Yeah. Oh, she does. Oh my God, this is crazy. Yeah, I don't understand. Don't worry about confusing. So it just gets more and more confusing. I feel that we're in this year now. Okay. Caught up to the almost present, January, BJ & Mindy. Go to Massachusetts at the same. Time with her kids and they go on a whole trip and there. Yep. And February bitchy. Okay, this is crazy.
February, BJ follows a parenting advice Instagram by a woman named dr. Becky people. And all of the posts are about like, parenting myths and like the importance of play. And like, like, how to communicate with your child and like resolving conflict with kids parenting? Yes. Levi was so desire. Yeah. And they also just like continue to like tweet at each other and they're seeing going out to lunch together a lot in February and then Mindy post a picture of her and her daughter wearing
BJ's hat. Supposedly. Wow. Which has Max seafood Cape Cod, like she posts pictures have March they attend Beyonce's, Oscar party together and posed for pictures and p.j. Reshares Fan Art of the This is interesting. Mmm, then also in March, Mindy post a pic celebrating Passover. Mmm, again more Jewish holidays, then BJ. Okay in March, BJ post, a story of Kelly and Ryan their characters from The Office kissing, what and a clip of Ryan smirking in, like, you know, how the office they have a
interviews. Yeah. And it's Ryan smirking in the interview and saying, I don't know. No, I can't explain it. Oh my God. Like blushing about sure that Kelly and BJ wrote my favorite Kelly and Ryan moment in the office hashtag soup snakes. Are you kidding me? No, this is literally like three months ago. I'm so this is 2022. Yeah, yeah. My God April. They go dress together. As storybook characters for a fundraiser for Mindy's
daughter's school. So they go to a PTA event together to her daughter's school. Why are they? Saying they're not together, that's very involved. Hmm, so April they go. Yeah I said that. Okay, April someone tweets that BJ asking him to name his five favorite writers and he says, Terry Southern Philip Roth Sarah Mancuso William Shakespeare and Mindy Kaling may, there's a blind item that former A-list actor. Who's now a b-list was overheard saying that he's a father of two children.
With his former co-star, but the person who submitted it thinks, that he didn't really mean it. So people do this is about before, but like, maybe he was just like joking about being the father of her tested. Justing. Mmm, what do you say he was ever a list? No, that's the thing, but people get that wrong. Remember, the time we played the, yeah we played. He was feel asleep for like a four hour car ride. Um, it's fun to do. But who else could that be like
who's I know? It's so hard to think of a TV star who used to be a lesbian out there be lists. It could be like anybody but mmm, I would say he was never a list. Yeah, I would say Mindy has been a list. Hmm. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Noblest is a good place to be. Maybe this is better than, but it seems to be 0. B - hi. Yeah, I would not that. There's anything wrong with that, BJ. Okay, BJ. You know what? Because I mean this BJ will give
you the beef has. Yeah, I think Fame seems really horrible in many ways. Oh completely. It doesn't say anything about anyone's worth as a human being. I think all humans are equal, but I don't need to do this whole thing exactly. But yeah, just saying some plr. Just hire in the business. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You cannot company or something. Exactly. And it's well-known. I bet. They're, yeah, there's some gray lines. But for sure, Mindy's more famous, and BJ.
Yeah, definitely completely. Yeah. So also again, they go back to Boston together with her kids. They take the kids to the Boston Children's Museum. They spotted at the playground together in Boston. They're seeing going out to lunch and Newton. Mindy bjbj went to a Red Sox game.
In the Red Sox official Tick-Tock account posted a video that said when Scranton's biggest power couple stops by Fenway and then he suddenly wasn't their biggest partner and that's what Dwight and Angela. So then he's a premiere of the, it's a Tribeca film festival. And he says, Says this game with me, fans went crazy laughing with last week when he went to the Red Sox game with Mindy being back in Massachusetts,
what was that? Like that was also a dream come true, my family's from Boston, Mindy's families from Boston. So to get to hang out with sort of multiple generations of people, that matter to me. It was a dream Rudy for anyone at the Tonys tonight. Maybe some friends, I'm rooting for Mindy Kaling, who produced a strange Loop and and hopefully she'll get her first Tony. So yeah, man, he was nominated the same. Day of his Premier for a film, that he may be called a strange Loop.
Oh no, she's nominated for a play called The Strange. No cool. And he has a direct directorial debut with a film called benjin's at Tribeca Film Festival. Which first of all we oughta go back and say multiple generations of people who matter to me the kids, the kids and their parents. Yeah, I want to say to just being from Massachusetts. Like they are, hmm. I find it weird that he said, it was a dream come true because I'm assuming he's meant to the
lot of Red Sox game. I Nina Harvard to like it makes it seem like he doesn't want to talk about what it was really like exactly that. I can't even say, like it was a nice day. Whatever. No, he acted like, it was like a reunions. Yeah, that's like true dream. Come true, you know, Mindy and I like you see her all the time. And I get going to Red Sox. Give anybody could go to one. Yeah. But I do think they did good to go on the field and like me.
Okay. Maybe that monster, but it's not since I really, I know a lot of people get to do that, maybe that's what he meant. But I was just over analyzing when you're saying that. Yeah, thinking he is making it sound less casual. I agree. I agree. I almost feel like he gave an answer that was like he, this is really over and he like Dated from the actual question. Yeah. And like, give like a kind of like media trained dancer.
Yeah, I'm not really respond. So it seems like, but unless the dream come true is being able to hang out with like his parents and like they're supposed to be like really cynical here. No one would say that the dream concert she seems over the top. Yeah, it does. But also the fact that he had to say hanging out with multiple Generations, that matter to me. Yeah, and over-the-top seriously who normally says that. But okay, so that night Mindy was nominated for a Tony Award.
But instead of going to the Tonys, she went to his Film Festival. What so for the premiere of his movie, instead of going and be, they do asked why that was and he said she's committed to coming. She committed to coming as soon as she heard about it. She said this is selfishness and possessiveness. I don't want you. To become Jordan Peele and abandoned me without becoming part me, becoming part of the
ride. It was obviously a very nice compliment and in true Mindy Style, Both sincere and a joke. But when she found out that the Tonys were the same night, she did a lot of guilt tripping and grumbling. I told her to go to the Tonys but she didn't. I had this great screening and celebrated and at the after party, with my friends, I then texted her. Hey, did you win the Tony? And she wrote back? Yep, and I thought, oh my God, this woman will never stop. One-upping me, did she win? It.
Yeah she did with the traffic and she didn't go by the upsets me. I know. And then he posted like, he posted to his Instagram story, a screenshot of like the text message of her thing. She won the Tony and that kind of brings us to the present. I don't really have anything else unless there's been something this past week. I hope like, I hope that I just don't even know what the heck is going on. And I'm so wrong, but it's upsetting me because I feel Feel
like she, I don't know. I've just seen this with so many of my friends just women. I know that they just really They do anything for a guy. No I agree. You know just stick around forever and you should have gone to the tone. Yeah. That's her big night. Like that's huge. Yeah. Oh my God. And she won the award. What? Like and winning an Oscar. I wonder if roles were reversed if he would have done the same. Hmm.
You know, it's not like they, you know, if she didn't go to his Premier, would that really be like the end of their friendship or whatever? I know. Yeah, probably not. I know you like, it would be sad if she thought it was like that. Importantly, that's how she felt, but like, well her saying, like, oh, like it's out of selfishness. Like, I don't want you to like become successful without me like Mindy, you're already successful and like, you don't like, leave her behind.
Yeah, you know what what's meant for? You will never pass you by. That's what that's my Mantra lately. If BJ was meant for you, you don't need to go to his premiere for him, working out, day in your life. You know, it's meant for you would never pass you by it to me. Shows a little bit of insecurity. I don't know like maybe mnd I don't know you. So yeah but like that to think like you can't miss out on this or else like he'll be. I'm successful and like, leave you in the dust. Mindy.
We love you, we love you, but come on. Yeah, the whole thing. Like I like I would say, I want them together, but just because I think it's a total waste. If you really do have such a deep friendship, and attraction for each other and love each other. Why do just like letting that? Like, yeah, but it is like, just be together. Why making it so complicated? Because I don't think they're ever going to fully be able to
be with anybody else. If they have each other in, I mean, it seems like they are together. Yeah, exactly. Maybe they have an open relationship and I mean, they use each other for the things that you would use a couple like a partner for like going to a PTA event spending holidays together. Go ahead and visit your parents. Maybe they are just Super open there. Like we just have a partnership. Yeah. You know what I mean? But I feel like they could talk about that.
Hmm. If they could, if they had like an explanation. Yeah, because they kind of want the world to know about this like flirtation and like romantic relationship that they have. Like, they're not really hiding that true. Yeah, it would be sweet if it was like, When Harry Met Sally and They're like we're together now. Me like get married or something?
Yeah. Yeah. But right now, it's like, in the middle of when hurry, When Harry Met Sally, but hearing that silly takes place over a much shorter amount of. That's not true. Like, this is too long, 15 years now. Yeah, well doing this. You're bored. Yeah, I totally blame him 100%. Yeah, I think they would be together if it wasn't for him. Mmm, being However, it is the what he is. I mean, they said they wrote the characters in office, to be like them. Yeah, it was totally Ryan's fault.
Okay, do you think that he's the father of her kids? Oh my gosh, I hope not. I think that'd be so odd, but maybe I'm gonna give figure it out. Yeah. Who mean? Yeah, maybe it was a sperm donor. I don't know why that feels like more infringing on someone's privacy than like, if it's just a good night. Yeah, I think it's I don't know. Gun to my head, I don't know. Oh yeah, I actually gone to my head. I think like I might die takes on like a father role. He's obviously. Yeah doing that.
And so maybe that's why he followed that Instagram because he is like trying to be that for the kids like why? Yeah, it reads at the end of the day, they are exes. Yeah. Like at the end of the day, they actually did legitimately date. Yeah. So all of that with that context, like you're taking on a father role for for an X, you know. Yeah. Did she just pull that thing? Like will you just raise kids with me? Like What you're talking about with a gay man.
Oh yeah. Yeah guys, if I don't ever find someone I'm gonna find a gay man who also wants to have kids. Yeah. And we'll have kids together but it won't be a family but not together. Maybe that's their situation. I'm trying to put myself in his shoes and imagine I don't know, obviously not a gay man if he's
going after. No, no, I don't mean here's a gay, man, but maybe they just agreed to platonically raise kids together, but obviously attracted to each other, like I don't think that the five they have is legitimately platonic And I've been seeing like it, that's just a mess. They do post pictures with each other all the time to like BJ has a picture because birthday or something where he's like gazing at her or her birthday. She's a cake.
Really, just like looking at her, like, kind of lovingly. I guess what? I want to know. They know if anybody's listening and you have information. Yeah, you personally know them. We can keep it a secret. Do you think people that we cover whatever like search their own means and bingo Spotify or something? And look for a podcast episode about you and BJ for listening. BJ. Want to hear your side of the story. Yep. We live in New York. Yeah. What if he's out there right now?
Slogging around the ardian? Yeah. So I think one thing I want to do with this podcast is at the end of each episode, if it's a couple who are currently not together for us to give a probability rating of How likely we think they are to either end up together or get back together. Okay, cool. So for b.j. and Mindy, I mean, it's confusing. It's like are they together Night Out in a way? I can open my or something, but I would say miss a fifty percent
fifty. Okay, I'm actually gonna say 70% chance. We'll get back together. Cool. Okay. And then okay, custody battle, would you pack and boys on the gets the kids? No. No it's her kids. Who gets you? Like I'm not the one that you could only. Oh, whose side are you on? Mindy's me to wonder if we'll ever disagree. I Maybe he kind of fun. Someone might not really have a strong opinion but if anyone was doing like loves b.j. and we're so wrong about him. Let us know. Yeah, I don't hate us.
Yeah, I do. Here is, I mean, I don't have anything against BJ. I just don't know why you guys aren't together and I get the sense that it's because of him. Yeah. Unless you are together. Mmm. And in which case, why aren't you opening, right? Yeah. Why are you hanging your curtain? Should go stop it. Stop it. You die. I think that they might be together but like an open thing. Okay. Yeah, probably. But that just that would make me
sad because I don't know. She's not going out meeting all these are no we don't see why not I mean yeah maybe yeah maybe she's dating someone and we have no idea. But how would that work? Yeah. Posting pictures of her ex mmm. No no. I just keep going in a circle. I don't they have it in their mindset. Like, they will end up together though. Like, they have that kind of dynamic that it's like, oh like, you know, we're just friends
right now. But like, like the way he wasn't invited, I know, but I know it is future. That's the thing. I feel like this is like a relationship that people have in their 20 and using, it's not something you have when you're 40 kids. Like the way he was crying about. But the thing is, it was Mindy like it, you know how dark undertone but it was Mindy. Why are you crying? Yeah. Just call her and yeah chica Gallery. Exactly. I really don't get what? All this like red tape is on its
red tape. Wow, that's really interesting. Oh my God. So that's our first episode. Wow it's just a Shannon was doubtful that they ever dated Shanna. Hope you are still listening. Yeah, like you listen to me you have to admit that this People counts, right? So definitely are like rats. I mean they both said they were together. Yeah and there's something going on but yeah thanks everybody for listening. Yeah this is the end. Yeah this is it that's that's sad.
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