The One With Alaska

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Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers. My name is Bob the Drag Queen. And I'm Money Exchange. And this is Sibling Rivalry. On this week's episode, we invite Alaska Thunderfuck to the podcast. We talk about some of our biggest fights. And we find out what made Alaska say this. Why did you pee yourself? It's so far beyond me. And we find out what made Bob say this. Now comes the time when I show you my penis. Yo, what a treat. I am sitting here with the legend, the icon.

the uh the pennsylvania diva the hollywood legend the drag race hall of famer um she is the alien uh one of the first aliens now everyone's an alien Hi. How does it feel with all these aliens now? Irene the alien. Miss Fame was an alien. She was an alien. Out of this world. Who else? Blue. Rose. Juno Birch? Juno Birch. Juno Birch is an alien? Uh-huh. Are you the mothership? I don't know.

You never want to be, you never, you used to be like, you're so, you're such a, like a modest queen these days. So modest. It used to be like, honey, if you're not wearing, you know when I realized you took the modest turn? One time I heard you say, if you're not wearing nails.

That's your business. That is your fingers. It's your choice. Yes. I stand by that. I don't care. Is it because you couldn't keep doing the nails thing? It's a lot to put on yourself. No, I have to still wear nails. Oh, you're still doing it. I have to, after writing that.

preposterous song i have no choice i mean your makeup is terrible you had a lot of songs that were like i am talking about what the standard of drag should be and have you glued yourself to that standard by all these years no i never did my My songs are way cuntier than I am, I believe. I think you're pretty cunty, Alaska. Oh. I mean, you are definitely one of my favorite drag queens. I actually think that Alaska is a drag queen's drag queen. Yeah.

I like drag. I love drag. I've learned a lot about being a drag race girl from you, actually. I learned that at the meet and greet, if a drag queen comes, you stand up. You always stand up for the drag queen. Yeah. I think that's such a fierce rule. And sit down the rest of the time. Yeah, are you pleased? Do you do this? Do you sit down at the meet and greet? No, sometimes at DragCon, which I've not done in years. Yeah.

um so at dragcon i sit down and i and i remember from alaska i was like but if a dragon comes you stand up for the drag queens absolutely and you also taught me that it's okay to go out of drag sometimes like when but you did the drag kind of drag that one time in that nice suit Yeah. You look so nice. Well, RuPaul does that. Imagine if you saw RuPaul in drag at DragCon.

We would never. I've never seen RuPaul in drag. Wouldn't it be terrifying if you saw RuPaul? You'd be like, ah! I wouldn't think it was her. Look at that cheap RuPaul impersonator. You will never be her. I wouldn't even know what to do. I mean, last time I saw RuPaul in drag was on Drag Race at my, no, at the season nine finale. And she's like glowing behind a desk.

Well, some of the girls do her movies and her TV shows. That's true. So they got up close and personal. Yeah, they get to see the whole thing. Did you watch AJ and the Queen? Oh my God, not an AJ and the Queen jacket. So those girls were like doing like video, like they were doing scene work with, with, with, with, with mother. Yeah. Which must've been really interesting. Yeah. Get her the teleprompter and let's go.

So me in Alaska, I feel like I don't remember when I first, I do remember when I first met you. I just lied. Oh, God. You and I have a little bit of pre-drag race history. A little bit. You may not remember me, but I remember you. Please. Please remind me. I don't remember anything. So when you were House of Haunts. You were living in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And you would come down. You would come down. Well, we can't say.

We don't talk about Bruno. Voldemort. No, everyone knows. You today share. You today share. A shiver. A bird fell from the sky. The oceans rose. Thunder struck the building. When you were dating Sharon, y'all would come down to the Ritz and do, as Rhea and Thorgy's show, Saliva Tuesdays, the Ritz.

And the first time I ever saw you, you were wearing this. You weren't wearing any padding. You were wearing this black gown. It's like black gown with like high, high hip. I know the dress. And you were wearing one of those. early alaska wigs the the ratted tattered wigs um and you you this one you were doing the really harsh harsh makeup

Long long nails and you were doing a super like RuPaul mega mix. It was like yeah grunge rock Every RuPaul song to this like hardcore rock and roll song. Yeah, and then um during supermodel you you're going you better work work it girl do your thing and then you go and now comes the time when i show you my penis and then you take the Then you take the middle part of the dress and you lift it up and you weren't wearing any underwear and you flashed us. Does that sound familiar?

It sounds familiar, but I don't remember doing, I don't remember that. I remember that mix. I did that mix. Yeah. Well. Because we were all gagged. You go, now comes the part. Wouldn't I show you my... And it was a long dress. And you grabbed... It was like a train in the front and a train in the back. And you just grabbed it. And you flipped it over your shoulder. It wasn't long.

It wasn't a long viewing. My dick wasn't long. No, the viewing wasn't long. I don't really remember what your penis looked like. It's just so shocking. It happened so fast. And everyone was going crazy. That was my act for a short period of time. But once you've done that a few times, it is no longer shocking. It's just insane. I mean, it's insane to begin with, but it was shocking for a minute. Very shocking.

And so I would do that periodically because, you know, I mean, why not? You and Sharon both had really, really like shocking. things you would do and Sharon's thing was she um I remember this she did two numbers that night you both did two numbers at night Sharon's first number was so bizarre it kind of left everyone really angry actually what was that she did paparazzi she had these like this uh dress with like feathers on the sleeves

I think it was red or it might have been black. And she does pop and she comes out, you know, boom. And then right before the first lyric, we are the crowd. The mix slowed down to about maybe. Either half or a fourth of the speed. Yeah. So a three minute song becomes a 12 minute song. And she does a 12 minute super slow rendition. We are the crowd. We're out.

And you keep waiting for the song to speed back up, but it never did. And she did. And we sat there and people cheered at first. At first of all, I was like, whoa. But then. It just became, oh, it's not going to speed up. And then we watched her do a 12-minute rendition of that. And then her second number, I remember, was that she did money. The best things in life are free.

But you can give that to the birds and bees. I want money. And then the crowd would be incentivized to give her a lot of money. And she would take everyone's money. And she had a lot, like a fistful of money. And then she goes up to the DJ booth at... at the Ritz, if you recall. And then she reaches behind the DJ booth and she pulls up a blender. And then she put all the money in the blender.

that it must have been like maybe like at least 100 bucks and then she poured in some vodka and i think maybe some bailey's i don't think she was terribly discerning with what she poured in there maybe i remember it being kind of creamy yeah and then she poured it all in then she blended up all the money And everyone was like screaming because they were like, whoa, you're blending the money we just gave you. And then she chugged it. And then she chugged the, then she drank about a hundred bucks.

Right there on stage. Yeah. Y'all were wild. Yeah. Drag was wild at one point. How much have you evolved since your House of Haunt days when y'all would come down to... This was before either of y'all was on Drag Race, by the way. Even Sharon hadn't been on yet. This must have been around season two or three-ish. She was blending money before Drag Race. We needed it. We really needed it. She's blending it in a new way now.

the money's still being wasted let's just say it's in a different way you know what i'm saying uh but it was it was really wild to see y'all come down to new york city with uh cherry bomb and veruca yeah veruca although what's her name wasn't with y'all but she kind of just had the same vibe uh shalita baby shalita okay um and the one who did the crazy like clown makeup right in the center of her face she was a new york city girl though

she was like a real uh drag terrorist i would call her okay like she would she would um interrupt people's numbers that was her thing oh she would get she'd wait till you're performing and then at the big moment she would jump up on stage and do something to ruin your performance. That was her act? That was her performance. Okay. All right. Who was this? Demanda Darling. Demanda? Demanda Darling. That was her name. And do you remember Jordan Fox?

or jordan yeah really really yeah really pretty stunning um her and i got into a big argument one day we did this cole han Activation and I was like, I think it's really annoying that the demanded darling does this and Jordan was like, I think it's fierce And I was like, it's not fierce. It's really irritating. Like, get your own act. Your act can't just be ruining everyone's act. She was like, it's fierce. And I was like, maybe we're not of the same ilk. It used to be, you know, about like...

shocking and about, you know, getting attention and getting a reaction. That's like that was the name of the game. And I feel like as we get older, it's more like I just want to.

I want to be good at drag. I want to be good at the craft of drag and care about it more. I feel like you're kind of, not kind of, I would call you, especially your early drag, is quite punk rock. Would you agree with that? yeah and that was the sort that was what attracted me to drag is was it was like anti the glossy shit you were seeing on tv which never spoke to me and never cared about me. And so I was like, this is an art form that's like for us and by us.

And it has no rules and no limits. But you were still quite stunning. You were quite statuesque. What are you, like, 6'2", 6'3"? 6'1", just like my mother. Your mom 6'1"? Mm-hmm. Gang, gang. Mm-hmm. glamazonian house. Tall ladies. Your mom and Malia Obama. Really? 6'1". I'll never let people forget that. Malia Obama, 6'1". I love tall women. But can we talk about one other crazy performance that you did back in the day? Sure, why not?

So you did Oh this one yes this one yeah I think probably your most shocking performance that you did probably post being on Drag Race was your I will always love you Sure. Can you describe it to the people and like the thought process behind the number? Well. There is no thought process behind this number. I was just like, I want to get peed on on stage because it was for Tranny Shack, which was like this was what they were about.

being right it was being shocking being gross being crazy like that was the sort of core of of that movement of drag yeah and so this was tranny shack la and so i was like i want to make a really big splash so what's the venue do you remember i think that might have been uh Dragonfly, no, Echoplex maybe, or Dragon. And so I was like, I want to get Pete on.

So I got my two friends and they were like, yeah. If your friends can't piss on you, they're not friends. Right. If your friends can't piss on you in front of about a thousand people, are they really your friends? And so I was just having them drink a lot of beer backstage. Beer!

Beer? Yeah. Why not water? Well, beer sort of activates that, like, you know, when you're drinking and you break the seal and you have to keep peeing. Like, alcohol does make you pee more. Beer is... And it dehydrates you. Okay, continue. I'm listening. So, and it just makes it taste better. No, I don't think it.

I don't think it tastes about the same. Right. It tastes about the same. And so they came, I came out and I was doing like a kind of serious rendition of I Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston. And I was in a yellow plastic dress. And then at a certain point, they come out and roll a tarp down. So you know something's going to happen. Very kind of you, by the way.

Well, I come from the theater. Clean up after yourself. Everybody everywhere. Clean up, clean up. Don't leave a mess for the next girl. I got to hear about this. Sorry, I interrupted your story. Go ahead. So then they stood on like. I don't know, apple boxes or something or crates or something. And then just at the climax of the song, it was like a fountain. So boom and. Yeah.

And are you taking it in your mouth? Is it in your wig? I love that that's the international sound of peeing, even though it doesn't really make a hissing noise. I can't do the sound. It doesn't make a noise. Not when it hits the water. Oh, okay. of it hitting the toilet or I think what we when we think of piss we're thinking of when the piss hits its landing place oh when the piss hits baby when the piss hits mmm

My piss just kicked. My piss just hit. It just hit. It just hits. Yes. And yes, it was in my hair and my mouth, but I was wearing plastic and there was a tarp. Who made that dress? Well, I did. It was just a yellow plastic tablecloth. Belted with tape. When you think Alaska, I feel like people think several things. Now tell me if you feel like this is all intentional or if any of this was accidental. Trash bags. Horse mask. Sure. Nails. Blonde hair. Yeah. Crowns.

Because you won. And podcasting. Did I miss anything in there? Okay. No, that's all good stuff. Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie. When you use Angie for your home projects, you know all your jobs will be done well. Roof repair? Done well. Kitchen sink install? Done well. Deck upgrades? Done well. Electrical upgrade?

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color, but it was like the lighter shade of brown. Why is everyone shaking my hand today? I'm really into handshakes. Oh, this bitch is kinky. She's getting off right now. Because you, I don't know. Feel free to answer this question or not. You make a lot of allusions to things you're into. You make a lot of allusions. You make a lot of allusions to fisting, a lot of allusions to piss play. Is this the real Alaska or is this a bit?

Well, I'm I have an interest in these things like I'm interested in fisting as like an art form, but I've never like done it. I can barely get a fucking finger. Could you say it's so tight taking that fist? Yes. You said that. Yes, because it rhymes. I respect people who can just like like people who are like amazing bottoms like that. I have so much respect for that because it's like because it's not a talent that I really possess. And I wish I did. I wish I could just get.

fucked all the time you gotta practice no it's genetic and internal like it's it doesn't there's gotta be a part of it that's just like gotta put in the work you know what i mean You said a dick for breakfast and a cock for lunch. This is making it sound like you are always... But not really. Piss, though, I mean, there was a time where I was like, this is fierce. Drink dick like Sierra Mist.

Exactly. Piss is a great thing that I think people should get into. It's one of the most plentiful resources on the planet. It is. All of us are... Between us all in this room right now, we got at least a gallon. Period. Of the gold. And I was really into it because I was like, this is great because it's like... It's like cum except you're like not done.

After like it's you're not like, oh, okay. I'm gonna go get a sandwich like yeah when you come you change as a person Yes, like you it's like dr. Jekyll mr. Hyde like you when you're horny and you haven't come yet. You're like And the moment you come, you're like, I think I may have overreacted. My God, I think I may have overreacted. I am so sorry. I was out of control.

And so I was really like, I had a phase where I was like, this is fierce. And that was around when I did that number. I mean, it's not really a thing anymore. I'm quite like, I'm quite standard.

when you were when you were single on the road did you disappoint a lot of people who were expecting you to be the the piss bottom queen of the universe and you were like you jerk off on the couch i'm gonna um you know watch the wiggles and jerk off too where people are like because i i will say this i on drag race i said bob's there for big old bottom and i disappointed a lot of times i know that's false advertising i said it you know you said it because it rhymed i just said

I said it was funny. I was like, oh, this is a funny thing I've said for a long time. It's not actually true, but it's really funny to say. And then when you say big old bottom, what you end up getting at the meet and greet, for those of you who are coming up on season of Drag Race, be careful what you say.

because it will become a big part of what you what you're going to get at things meet and greets so these guys with these gigantic i mean massive penises would be like that's what you want i'm like baby i really appreciate you showing me that And it's beautiful craftsmanship. I do not have a gallery for that to hang in.

I cannot accommodate and I'm not interested, but I want to thank you so much for feeling comfortable enough and be vulnerable enough to share that with me. Thank you for being woman enough to come. No, literally. I just didn't have it in me. So just be careful what you say on Drag Race. You really didn't have it in you. And I wouldn't. Under any circumstances. You've done a lot of the tours.

Yes. Like when that was a first happening. Were you there for the famous... The famous Work the World. What's the one before Work the World that PG used to do? Battle of the Seasons. The infamous video where the girls are all going in a circle. And then one of them falls. I think Jinx falls. And then a door lands. Were you there for that?

I was there for all of them. Can you bring this up? I was there for all of them. They're doing Battle of the Seasons and one girl, it's like it was a pile up. And then the girls, it's one of those videos where like when you watch it. When you watch it. I think I'm on stage. Every time there's someone different to look at. Maybe I'm not on stage that day. Wait, are you there? No, there's Katya. Oh no, it's Katya, Violet, Sharon, Adora, Jinx, Pandora. I wasn't there?

I was on every single Battle of the Seasons. But it's one of those videos, every time you watch it, there's always something new. Oh, Courtney, my God. When Courtney was living in the States, there's always something new to watch every single time because it's just a big pile-up train wreck. Sorry, but they're hitting the choreography. Do you miss these days of the drag race? There it is. So what happens is first.

who jinx obviously jinx falls rips courtly's dress off what is happening wait jacob This is why they don't do this anymore. So Jake's dressed like the little orphan Annie. She trips over her feet, grabs Courtney's skirt, rips it off. A door runs over to her. Violet Chomsky is gagging. Pandora and Sharon have no clue what's happening. Kati is barely holding it together. I feel like this is the jinx that we as touring drag queens know. Yes, we do.

and everyone else knows like the broadway diva but if you tour with the girls that's that's who jinx one jinx that's who jinx monsoon is yes I wasn't there. I'm so disappointed. You know, that's why it fell apart. Because I wasn't there. Because they didn't have you on stage. And they learned their fucking lesson. I mean, you did. You've done the Christmas tours. You've done the Christmas albums.

You've really done everything there is to do as a Drag Race girl. You've won the show. You've lost the show. You've done the tours. You've done the roast. You've done it all. Yeah. Well, I never got to do... drag you because it got cancelled right when I had a chance to do it so I didn't get to do that I don't think I've

done work the world which i would love to i haven't done the vegas show which i would love to have you done the vegas show no i've done i've done work the world but i have not done the vegas show i would love to do the vegas show oh you'd be great it looks so fun and it also looks

kind of like cozy like you get to y'all don't know we are we are used to packing our bags getting on the bus or pre-bus it was the planes like you you would take a plane everywhere yeah i went to go see a murray and peter show recently Yeah. They have two buses. There's a truck that falls behind them. I was like, do y'all know what it was like Murray and Petering back in my day?

Because we did Murray and Peter together. Which, what was that? We did several Alaska's. We did The Rose together. Okay. And I believe we did a Christmas tour together as well. No, that was a PEG ex-Brennan Voss. Okay. when we did that Christmas tour. But you and I, we did the Haters Roast again, which I think might have been one of my favorite gigs that I've actually done in drag. You peed, mama. You peed, mama.

So for those of you who don't know, on the haters roast, which is basically any episode you see a roast or the roast you see on Comedy Central, except instead of focusing on one person, everyone's roasting everyone. Yeah. And we were touring, this might have been 2012, 2013-ish. Okay. Maybe. Did that sound right? I don't know. I can't remember either. I don't know. 28? No, 2012. I was on Drag Race 2016.

so it might have been 2018 2018 yeah okay so I I was I used to I had the last set in the show I had the very last set in the show we were in Atlanta Georgia and I had to pee really bad Don't get excited, Alaska. I had to pee really badly. And I got on stage and I could not hold it anymore. So I just let it go. I just pissed myself during my set.

And I was thinking to myself, no one's going to know because it's in my gal, which for the most part, no one did know. And then do you even remember when I turned around and looked at you and said that? I remember vividly. Yeah. So I finished my set. By the way, I think once I relieved myself, funnest I'd ever been. Like, I mean, I was, I was like, piss is the key. I was ripping home when the piss is. I was so great. And then I turned around and I looked at Alaska and I said.

Girl, I peed. To which Alaska responded, you peed? Yes, girl, you peed. You did. I said, no, bitch. And I pointed down and you saw. The trail of piss flowing from underneath my beautiful gown. Yeah. What are you thinking of that moment? I just, I was like, why did you do that? Why did you pee yourself? It's so far beyond me. You! Beyond you!

that's rich like get like just go get out of in the middle of my set tell them to hold the fucking phone it was the end of the show i mean you know the padding and the corset and the gown they'd have to be nails they have to wait because you guys you can't when you go to pee you have to take off these two yeah you have to take off these two you cannot you can't reach into your underwear and pull your dick out

with the long claws specifically on these two fingers. And you certainly cannot push it back down. No. You will shred your dick. Yeah. So I was like, I thought it was the more professional thing to just... powered through my set while pissing myself. It was professional. And for the most part, the girls were actually quite forgiving. For the most part, a lot of girls huddled around the piss in front of it to hide it from the fans.

Ginger Minj. Didn't you say it on the mic? I did not say it. Weren't you like... No, I hid it from the audience. I told you and Latrice. I told Latrice. I told you first, and then I told Latrice.

Because y'all were sitting like right next to each other, I believe, or at least on opposite sides. You're on the front row. And I was panicking. I turned around and I tried to stay. My thought process, I'll just stay here until the curtains close. But it was in front of the curtain. So there was there was no. There was no hiding. You didn't put a tarp down. Obviously not from the theater. And I was thinking to myself, I'll just stay here.

until the show's end and then i'll run out but then ginger kept being like girl sit down girl have it come on show's over and i was kind of being like no girl i have to stay here but she could be like bob sit down have a seat girl why you standing and then i just ran off stage

pulling the piss with me a trail of piss all the way back to the bathroom and now the world will never know which is good i mean we'll ever hear about this i mean i've talked about it the the the producers posted a video of my piss trail their social media oh see that no I hated that I was livid that's not it's your story to tell

Because in their defense, it was kind of hilarious because my dress dragged through and there was a literal piss trail. I mean, all the way up to the bathroom door. And then the worst part was I had to take my dress. And travel with it for another week. So I wrapped it in a trash bag. And then I wrapped that trash bag in a trash bag.

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Hulu, and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers. Before we move on from our touring days, we have to talk about it. Bus fight. The bus fight. So have you been in a lot of fights on the road? Because I will be honest, I have. There's so many holes in my memory.

Why? What was happening? Because maybe the fun and the drinks. I drank a lot. Especially at that time. Oh yeah, I remember. And I also have drag-related amnesia. Which is probably a defense mechanism. It's your body protecting you from what you've done.

and what other people sure yeah and we're just so always in motion that it really just expunges so like i would like to think that i was kind of like a peacemaker on the road but i know that that wasn't always true in full transparency i have had fights with i've had a fight with you I had a fight with Manila, not Manila, with Latrice and Acid Betty. There was a joint fight I had with them. I had a fight with Jinx Monsoon. I had a fight with Violet Choshky.

The smallest one was probably me and Latrice and Acevedi. I just didn't like them cutting my jokes down during... Like, because, you know, during the haters roast, everyone knows the jokes. Yes. And then they would do things. And one shows to like... to undercut it before yes which i was like that's come on that's not that's not cool like don't do that like i get that i'm making fun of you that's literally why we're here

yeah for me to make fun of you like it's not like i showed up at your gig and took the mic and started roasting you out of nowhere Listen, bitch. Yeah, literally. Oh, like that one queen, Demanda. Exactly. I wasn't pulling a Demanda darling. But that was actually a pretty small beef. They probably didn't remember that. But famously, one time. You don't want me to talk about it? No, go ahead. So, if I recall correctly, what happened was, one day... I hate lateness.

Alaska doesn't like lateness. I do not like it, especially on a group tour setting like that. Because there's so many times when everyone is down. The call time is 7 a.m. Everyone is there. Everyone has gotten their ass up early, got their things loaded in the car, ready to go. And one person. inevitably this holds up the whole thing and you've got 12 people sitting there

waiting for one person who couldn't get it together. That happens all the time. And it's so unfair and it's so unprofessional. It drives me insane. Now, all of that being said, this is what actually happened. The bus call was 6 a.m. Okay. We had to be in this little shuttle bus to take us to the airport. Yeah. So, um, I got downstairs at... Well, don't give away the ending yet. Yeah, okay. This is what happened for me. Okay, let's hear it. Yeah.

Bob was this person was not there at the call time. It seemed as though everyone else was there. And so I was pissed. Oh, you were you were not having it and so finally the last you know people get in the bus and we're finally going and bob is one of the last people to get in the bus so yes so i assumed that bob was the one who was late and i was pissed and i don't remember what i said or if i said if i said something i remember exactly what you said

And then why don't you tell what really happened? So what happened was the call time was 6 a.m. I was downstairs at maybe like five. 50 but i was behind i was behind the bus so i was like just back there like talking to the people who were like loading the bus people who work on the tour just like chit chatting and like you know shooting the while waiting for people to come down so

Alaska can't see that I'm behind the bus. And Alaska walks straight onto the bus. And then at 6.04. i decided to go ahead and get on the bus it might have been a little chilly and y'all alaska was when i tell you like i don't know if you've become a morning person but alaska looks like that meme of that one like he brings it's like it's like a

A fox. It's like this grumpy looking fox sitting in a chair. Show the picture. Grumpy fox in a chair or like tired fox in a chair. No, type in fox in chair meme. This is what Alaska looks like. Alaska sitting. like sitting on the bus like this sad fox and she's just tired. I mean, she's tired. And then I get a bus at 6.04, and Alaska goes, the call time was 6, Bob. And I said, It's 6.04. And then Alaska said, well, I wish I had four extra minutes to do whatever the fuck you were doing upstairs.

That is her exact word. Well, I wish I had four extra minutes to do whatever the fuck you were doing upstairs Meanwhile, there are still like three people who haven't even come yet. And I remember being like, and I, so we started going back and forth. I don't remember the details, but we were going back and forth and like, yeah, we were yelling at each other in the morning. Yeah.

But then it kind of it kind of squashed out the next fucking day Yo, I wish I was exaggerating literally the next day Alaska is 15 minutes late to the bus and it was after after hours so alaska was still drunk i mean wasted like coming to the bus just like a mess and i was sitting there and i was like i was like the way i'm

to gather i remember thinking myself i was seething i was like i'm about to gather when alaska gets here i'm going to read her her last rites because i'm murdering this bitch and then i go oh miss alaska i wish i had

15 extra and before i get it out you had passed out you were asleep on the bus and i was like i couldn't even read this this is so this is so annoying i was like i get to read honey and you're like and then you had just passed out and you fall asleep on the on the ride to the airport that is such precious revenge i i never got to i mean you bested me on both on both parts

No, there was nothing good about my behavior. No, that's horrible. I have some of my favorite dressing room memories are with you. I mean, I remember you and Jinx singing every song from The Simpsons.

see my vest oh yeah see my vests uh we put the spring in springfield yeah alaska does a great rendition of see my vest you you i mean i don't know why you've never done it on stage i really should you know like every single word uh i mean it was i just remember just like just being tickled uh watching you and jinx you and jinx have a really beautiful uh friendship it's actually really really fun to watch a lot of ups and downs in you and jinx's friendship

Mostly us. Well, the one video. What? Oh, but that was it. Yes. No, that had nothing to do with our friendship. Oh, that was just the disappointment. That was just my own psychosis. But mostly, I mean, you two are being able to because I mean, you and Jinx have a relationship. completely outside of me. And I was just kind of like a bystander watching it. But it was really, really fun to watch you and Jinx have this like beautiful, blossoming, long friendship.

Yeah. In the dressing rooms. Yeah. She's the fun wacko. And tell me a little bit about before we because I want to do a little competition because you and I are both the we are the drag race historians.

Yeah. You and I. Yeah. We have both watched every season of US and including All Stars. Yes. And we also both won Drag Race the same year. Hmm. Within like two months of each other. Period. So you and I are also linked in our own special life. I feel very linked to you as a drag race queen. I feel that. right oh i feel that oh my god is there anyone that you haven't been linked to that you're like i want to hang out with this with this we can't seem to make it work um no

No, let me think. I don't know. Do you like the young girls? Yes. I'm always very impressed and very starstruck whenever I run into the girls. Yeah. Whenever I was like, I mean, I haven't really done the group tours in a long time. They kind of stopped inviting the older girls after a while. Well, yes. Yeah. Well. Except Kim. It's not. Kim will never stop working in the world.

It's not the older thing. I think it's like once you're outside the kingdom a little bit that because now the tours are part of the kingdom. Yeah. Like they're affiliated. Yeah. We don't have the keys. No, I lost my key And I think that's because of the jester There's this one video. It's my favorite video clip of your podcast. It is like, I can't remember what's being said, but they were talking about something that had nothing to do with it. It was just like.

It was just like some queen wearing like a wig. And you were like, I love this wig. This wig is so stunning. And then one of them was like, and RuPaul could never. And then Les just goes, oh my. Like, do you know this clip? No, but that happens a lot. It's just like, y'all could be like, oh my God, the sky is so blue. You know what's not blue? You know what RuPaul did once? And then Alaska was like... yes that should be the title of our podcast

A lot of times when people mention who's going to be hosting Drag Race when RuPaul retires, you and I, our names get brought up a lot. We do, yeah. I do not think they would ever let me host RuPaul's Drag Race.

You'd be so good though. I think I'd be great. I do not think I would ever get the invitation. Yeah. I mean, realistically, I think that it would probably be tricksy and it probably should be tricksy to be honest i think she has a really great appeal and she you know knows how to reach the fans and stuff i'm very opinionated but i think really but i mean i don't have to be like you know but you think

um i do have discernment but we're gonna we're gonna compete right now okay you and i are gonna do some drag race trivia And we are going to see. So you have a game for us. How's it going to work? Yes, this is divided into a couple of different sections. Each sections have different ways you can score points. OK, so our first section, this is just whoever says the answer first. OK, gets the point.

we have a studio here who will be the judge okay so um our first section is um out of drag names so i'm going to give you the name of a queen out of drag whoever says the corresponding queen first Gets that point. Real quick, how do you think you're going to do with this? So you're going to say they're out of drag name and we're going to say Christopher Caldwell. Is it just because there's a lot of Justins? Yes. And there's a lot of Bryans. Yeah, I'd say they're like 18 Kevins. Yeah.

So we're getting full names. Yes. All right. Here we go. All right. Who is Justin R. Reed? You should know this, bitch. Ain't you a Justin? I am. The realization. Oh, is it Lux Noir London? It is Lux Noir London. Okay. Wow. Okay. Okay. Damn. All right. Justin Woody. This is all justice. This is not fair. Justin Woody, that sounds like a white guy who's big and brolic. I'm going to say Justin Woody is Brooklyn Heights. That is not correct. God damn it. Do you know Justin Woody?

No, that's a Justin that I'm not recalling. They're not invited to the Justin delegation? Who is it? Anya Nerve. Anya Nerve is Justin too? Oh my God. What a good name. I'm going to flip this table. Christopher Williams. Oh, that's Jaden Dior Fierce. And all the Chrises. I'm a Chris, and all the Chrises. Brock Edward Hayo. Brooklyn Heights. Fuck.

Taylor didn't make it. It didn't make it. My heel didn't make it. It's fine. Oh, no. It's fine. Kevin Gabriel Candelario. Gabriel. Oh, that's Delta Work. No. Gabriel Kevin. Kevin Gabriel Candelario. Kevin, I don't know. Who is that? Candy Muse. Oh, she doesn't look like a Kevin. What a beautiful name. That is a beautiful name. Andrew Vladimir Dunyayevsky. Oh, that's got to be Sasha Velour. no what it's plain jane that is correct oh russia ruski carl sanchez okay this is this this is puerto rican

Or some sort of a Latino queen. Carl Sanchez. I'm going to go. I'm going to take a wild guess here. This is Jessica Wilde. That is incorrect. Tyra Sanchez? That is incorrect. It is. That's not Puerto Rican. But her last name is Sanchez. It is Nicky Doll. Nicky Doll? Yeah. So wait, she's French lady? French Puerto Rican? That's her name, yeah. It's for now, Sanche. Baby. Yeah, points taken away from the producer.

All right. We are now moving on to numbers. So I'm going to give you a question. The answer will be a number, which you will write down on the pen and paper provided. Okay. You each can get it right and get a point. If one of you is wrong, whoever is closest will get that point. Got it. Okay. Okay. Okay. On season 11, following the diva worship challenge during week three, how many queens were forced to lip sync for their lives?

It's one of these two numbers. I think it's this one. I think it's this one, and I feel strongly about it. All right. Present your answer. I said nine. I said 12. Is it 11? It was six. Six! There's so many more queens in our mind. That was when they were all bad and they all had to lip sync. Can we have a conversation about that lip sync for a second? Justice for Honey Davenport.

But Bob, you were close, so you get that point. Oh, it's a close thing. Got it. Justice Freddie Devenport, I feel like she shouldn't have gone home that episode. That's a really unfair lip sync. She took the boldest move out of anyone on stage and she got penalized for it. What did she do? Jump off? She jumped off and she crawled across the floor. And she got sent home. She was the one. Yeah. Recount. Worst of two is not bad. Worst of six.

Bitch, I'm shooting up the building. Too far? All right, go with the next question. Ariana Grande has guest judged on Drag Race twice, most recently during All Stars 10. What season did she first guest judge on? This is when Cynthia Erivo famously did the battle cry that Ginger Min said she did and the other girl said she didn't do it. Do you know about this drama? No.

That was the most recent one. Yeah. Anyway, I got to call you and give you the drama. Please. Yeah, we got to go on more of our Runyon Hikes. Oh, yeah. We haven't done Runyon Canyon in a hot minute. Her first time was definitely on this season that I've written down. I wrote 10. I wrote seven. Alaska is correct. It was season seven. Was that a guess? Yes. Gag. I knew it was like olden times. When does old drag race end?

After 10, like 10 is included, I think, in single digit, like Old Testament. No, it's for and before. Or I would say six and before. I'm from the new era. We're on 20. I feel like I'm one of the new girls. I don't think you are. You're single digit. I am.

you're but because you're single digit you are forever and eternal this is true it's not a matter of like being new or not you are in the like mount rushmore well i would allow for actually eight to be the end of the old seasons only because it's logo you know al and bl before logo and after logo you know and i'm from bl all right go ahead on what episode of season 13 jesus christ did the first girl get eliminated 13 was okay who won 13 13 okay 11 was you already have it written down

Yeah, I mean, it's a guess, but it's a presumption. Four. I wrote three. The answer was four. Episode one was the lip sync one where they- Gathered! They made all the girls lip-sync. Like a sheen, y'all. Gathered the girl. Gathered the gal. They made all the girls lip-sync episode one, and then episode two and three were the split premieres. Get your space shuttle, mama. You're going back to Glamtron. And then episode four, they brought the girls together in the first one.

As of now, December 10th, how many Drag Race winners are there across all franchises, all stars included? Jake wait international international all franchises. That's not a fair question, but I do have an answer Wait Hold on why you think I want to talk about something I feel like I hate to be back in my day, but back in my day.

Every year when a girl would win Drag Race or All Stars, the fans would make these big fan edits of all the queens who've won. And it used to be so cunty when there were like 10 of us. And I remember being way on the right side of the screen. And now it's paparazzi slowed down. It's the periodic table. I'm up here with that gold in the top left corner. I'm up here in the fucking top left at AU. Beryllium. I wrote 68. I wrote 48. The correct answer is 80.

So Bob wins that one. That's too many winners, I'm going to say. You're so chill these days. I'm kind of obsessed with the evolution of like Earth Mother Alaska. Okay. do you remember like what was your album um your album that you did with uh this journey can i just go ahead and say real quick on a quick pause i'm gonna say right now you are the best

music girl coming out of Drag Race. I would say your music is the music I've actually listened to the most out of all the girls. You really changed the game when it comes to music. Do you give yourself that credit or are you in your modest era still? I appreciate that and I'm proud of the music that I put out.

It's so good. I want to see the I want to see the Alaska Vegas show like your Vegas residency. Can I pitch my idea to you? Yeah. I think what's happening is the entire curtain is just a big trash bag. Oh, I love that. The curtains actually made out of a trash bag. I love this. And then you poke your head through the trash bag. The whole curtain drops. It is now your dress. This big trash bag falls down and you're the dress and then you hear that And then your cymbal starts to come together

And then it's big blight flash from behind you. You are silhouetted with this giant blonde wig and you're doing this with your fingers, right? And then you stand on stage in complete silence for almost a minute. And then you go, and the crowd doesn't do anything. And you don't say anything. And then you go, and the crowd doesn't do anything. And then you go, and then the song starts. And then the song starts. That's the beginning of the show.

That's so good. Can I direct it? Yeah, please. Based on that. Yes, you can. All right. What's the next question, Jacob? Sorry. How many seasons of Drag Race aired in 2025 across all franchises, all stars included? How many what? Seasons of Drag Race aired internationally in 2025 and this past year. And then there's that one. Then that one. Of course, that one. Ten. Four. The answer is eight. So that goes to Bob. Four. Go on the internet.

Season 17, All-Stars 10, Brazil Season 2, France All-Stars 1, Salvation Royale, UK 7, Spain 5, and Canada Season 6. Are you gonna join the white power hour? When they call you, will you do the white power out? The Aryan Royale. It's your screen. Filmed in Deutschland. You know if they called me I would do it.

We're done with numbers. I'm going to ask one of you a question. You have an opportunity to get it right. If you get it wrong, it goes to the next person to steal. And then we switch back and forth. Okay, so we're going back and forth. Who's going first? um let's rock paper scissors okay you ready undo it's one two three go right okay one two three go one scissors sisters go all right you got it

Miss Thunderfuck, who did Manila Luzon play during Snatch Game on All-Stars 4? Barbara Streisand? That is correct. Do you remember when you were Alaska Thunderfuck for a little while? Well, that's still my Venmo. Thunderfun? Yes. What made you switch to Thunderfun for a hot moment? I never officially changed my name to that. I just use that sometimes as like a...

like a family friendly version of my name. It felt like when Snoop Dogg had a album, a reggae album under the name Snoop Lion. He did that? He did a reggae album under the name Snoop Lion. Honestly, it is a great album. who did valentino play during snatch game and all-stars season four during season four i want to say she played eartha kit that is correct there we go miss thunderfuck in season 17 the queens were introduced on day one

but they were split into two groups for the first challenge. What was that challenge? 17, you said? I don't know. Didn't you review it? I have no idea what. Has happened in the world. Season 17, which is the most recent season because they're on 18 now. Oh, yeah, you're right. The first challenge, and this was one by Anya Nerve, and was it a talent show? It was a talent show. That's correct.

I have a great memory. You do. I really have a really great memory. And we're still on Bob because it goes back to Bob. On season 10, who was the first queen to enter the workroom? Season 10 was Monet season. first queen to walk into the room was age o'hara I wouldn't have known that information. You better than me. And I would have knew. Give me the point. Give me the point. Miss Thunderfuck, in what river did RuPaul watch a man drown? The Hudson River? That is correct. All right.

Bob. The most I can do is send him good vibes. What song did Trinity the Tuck send Charlie Hyde home to? Trinity send Charlie Hyde home? Do something, Charlie. It was Britney Spears, and it was Work Bitch. That is incorrect. Miss Thunderfuck? It was I Wanna Go by Britney Spears. That is correct. Damn, chewed me up. Miss Thunderfuck? What song did Raja O'Hara send Scarlet Envy home to? Oh my god. Who'd she send home? Scarlet Envy.

I don't know this information at this time. I feel like it was a disco song, and I feel like it was Last Dance. That is correct. Disco Sham. I do remember the disco. I was right now. you're you're taught alaska has seven and bob has eight you're neck and neck okay here we go bob um season 15's ball celebrated drag race's 200th episode what was the theme season 15 this season was some no 15 was okay i have to go from 11 11 i can't even do that

I just remember that 11. You know why I remember that 11 was Evie? Because Nina West walks in and goes, 11jendary. So that's how I remember that. And she was on the season. So I remember that 11 was Evie. 12 was like pandemic times. So this is Jada Essence Hall. sure so now we're at 12 and then simone and then after god oh my god now i see why paul can't remember anyone's names the ball theme was

I don't even have a clue. Alaska, can you steal it? I don't know. Like glitter or gold? It was the crystal ball. Oh, my God. I feel like RuPaul when she can't remember girls' names. Seattle! RuPaul calling Jinx Seattle. Miss Thunderfuck. That's something that would happen to Jinx. Stronger by Britney Spears was an iconic lip sync between Peppermint and Trinity the Tuck during the finale of season nine. Which two queens lip synced to the song on an earlier season? Stronger than yesterday

I don't know. I have no idea. All right, who lip synced to Stronger? I remember Trinity and Pep doing it, and Pep won the lip sync when she did the skirt reveal. And before that, damn, I don't know either. Who was it? Angina and Bebe. It was! Oh, I knew it was early. Oh, I remember that now. People used to do some faux pas that would not make it in Drag Race these days. The wig removals.

All right. This next round is still. We reveal that you have a head. We're still doing steals for this next round. Steals? This is the same. Yeah. Name that drag queen. I'm going to show you a queen from Drag Race and you're going to tell me her name. like just her drag name yes okay and we're doing one at a time yes who's who's up first um we i think alaska first all right alaska here we go um i no wait Yes, I know her. Seattle. Seattle. I don't. That's that's Jack's. Connecticut.

Connecticut. Bob, who is this? That is Puerto Rico. Her name is Candy. Candy. Candy. Her name is candy candy. How candy? I'm gonna give it to Alaska She's for the steel. She said she stole it. You're right. She did stole it miss thunder fuck. Who is this woman? Oh, um She is... Can I just tell everyone at home that it's very early in the day. I have not reached peak brain... Like, I literally know who this is.

And she has a gorgeous nose. Well, this is her stealing. This is Orion's story. That's what I was going to say after my explanation. Who is this? Oh, fuck. Her name is Crystal something. Crystal. She's the one who got sent home as a caveman. The one who said, you might move my real RuPaul. Miss Thunderfuck. Crystal Envy. That is correct. Fuck! I've given you the first name of these. I gotta stop doing that. I gotta wait until my full turn. Miss Thunderfuck? Who is this? Um...

I'm not sure. That's the current season. She's a hip-hop dancer, and her name... That's not Nene Coco. Fuck, what is her name? This is Mia Star. Mia Star, and I love her fucking drag name. Yeah. Do you have a favorite drag name you've heard of all time? Mimi I'm First is really good. Mimi I'm First is a brilliant name. It's such a good drag name. My two favorite drag names are Mimi I'm First.

uh betty betty nice and um karen from finance so funny great name betty betty nice is great cuban queen betty betty nice all right who's who's it on It's on Alaska. Alaska. Who is this queen? Oh. She is Dion. That's Athena Dion. I don't know. What is that? What is our studio audience like? Wake it up, studio. Wake it up.

I was getting there. And I honestly was. I honestly was. We said it at the same time. We can roll the tape back. And it was her turn. All right. Miss the drag queen? Who is this? Her name is, let me get all the way through this. No stealing until I say my thought. Darlene Mitchell. Oh, that's correct. Which is my other favorite drag name. Bring back just a human being's name. Amanda Brown. Bring that back. Darlene Mitchell is your drag. You can choose any fantasy name in the world.

I love it. Miss Thunderfuck. Who is this? That, of course, is Discord Adams. There it is. Who punched RuPaul in the throat and got sent home on episode one. And miss the drag queen. This is not the rumor. Apparently. First of all, I want to say that she looks like Megan Thee Stallion in this photo, but that is Juicy Love Dion.

that is correct better work i think that's it for oh no miss miss thunder who is this um yeah i don't know well give me a second give me a second give me a second i don't know Mandy Mango. That is correct. Cooked! Gathered! I was gonna say that. It was my turn, so... So right now we have Alaska at 11 and Bob at 13.

this is the final round oh there's one more round oh god oh god this is where you can really seize ahead in the competition i'm going to give you a season of drag race and you're going to tell me the elimination order from first to winner

um you get a point for everyone you get but if you if you get one wrong that's the end of the line and you you're done so you get a point for everyone you get right and then once you get one wrong the the those are the points you can get yes oh my god can i get season eight Miss Thunderfuck, can you start? And can you tell me the Elimination Order for Season 8? Oh, no I can't.

Hold on. There's no ceiling in this one. I had to get my own season. I'm going to guess that you were on season eight. Yes, I was. Based on you saying you wanted season eight. That's the only thing I'm going off of. so the first it was a short season drag us um and i have to choose the first person who went home or else i get no point yeah Well, it wasn't. Who are you on your season with? I'm trying to like populate the room.

A lot of New Yorkers, I'll give you that. Four of us, actually. Four New Yorkers! Three New Yorkers, I mean. I just, I do not know anything. I don't know. I don't know. Can I say one of my favorite things is when Alaska is disappointed in herself. We were one time filming our great video, Yet Another Dig, and we were in the desert in a Range Rover. doing our makeup which is hard because there's no flat surfaces in a car and everything is sloped and so you're just trying to set your

And there's nothing to set anything on. So Alaska is doing her makeup in the desert. And then she, she's just having a hard time. She's struggling. And she goes, she goes, she's like I can see it building up she's sitting right I'm in the driver's seat she's in the passenger seat I can see it like building up and I'm like oh god it's gonna be one of those one of those things and then laughs at some point goes am I even a fucking drag queen do I even know how to

fucking do drag i've got a burst in my song where i'm throwing some shade at the fucking queens who didn't win who won and i can't even fucking do my fucking makeup I'm a fucking failure and everyone's outside the car like sounds like me and I was locked in the car with Alaska going full alien mode alright Do you want to try for anything or you want to pass to Bob? You can get one point. I do not know any of the human beings who are on your season with you. We offered you coffee.

And I didn't take it. And that was my fatal mistake. Miss the drag queen. Can you give me the elimination order for season five? Season five is. Your season. Yes. Okay. First girl going. Oh my God. It is hard. It's hard. It's hard. First girl going home on season five. This was the season with you and Jinx and detox. And I'm trying to.

figure out was i'm trying to find out was penetration on six or was penetration on five because this answer is going to determine whether or not i get any points do you know who went home first in your season you have it locked and loaded maybe okay uh the first girl to go home no yes penetration that is correct and then

After penetration went home, I want to say it is Serena Cha-Cha. That's also correct. And then after Serena Cha-Cha goes home, I want to say the next person is Vivian Panay. Wow. And then after Vivian Panay goes home, I want to say the next person, I feel like it was an upset. Like, after Vivian Panay, it was like, what the fuck? Uh, after Vivian Panay, Vivian Panay goes home, um, I want to say it was... I tap out. I'm going to make a guess so I can stay in the game. I know it wasn't.

you or jinx or detox obviously and it wasn't um so it wasn't roll ask a toxin it wasn't um jinx because y'all were the top four was it monica well don't give me the was it jade Okay, I'm going to go with... Was Monica on your season? Monica Beverly Hills. After, wait. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's correct. And then, then Jane? No. Okay, who's next? Then Vivian Panay. Wait, I already said Vivian Panay. Oh, oh, so then you, sorry, it was Penny, Serena, Monica. Oh, so I got two.

okay i got two points now see if you would have given me season one oh one i could do pork chop tammy akasha jade on china chanel rebecca nina bb Shangela, Nicole Paige Brooks, Mystique Sonique, Morgan and Sahara. This is like the drag version of Yakko's World. United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, the Vancouver Road, BBC of Harvard. All right. So based on this, what are our final scores? Bob, you have 15 to Alaska's 11. Before the final round, you were neck and neck with...

12 to 11. Alaska, I'm going to be hosting RuPaul's Drag Race. Oh, this was the entrance exam. Farron is in the next room. Who's got the chops? Who can do the job? But I would love to have you on as a guest judge. I would love that. Thank you. You'll be a recurring guest judge. Oh, recurring? Like T.S. Madison? Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. So my cabinet does have positions. Okay, good, okay, good. Honestly, that's a better job to have. You can be the Secretary of Defense. Okay, great.

Exactly. Y'all can find Alaska over on one of the head honchos over at Moguls of Media. She is one of the co-hosts and creators of Race Chaser. She does shows, some really, really fucking great shows all around L.A. More and more these days, which I'm obsessed with. Yeah. Where can they find you? Where can they find you? Just go to alaskathunderfuck.com and you can find out where I'm going to be.

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