[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everyone to SI Media with Jimmy Trane, thank you so much for listening. [SPEAKER_01]: We have a bonus episode of the pod with the WWE's The Miz, the WWE's Gearing Up for a huge huge run here. [SPEAKER_01]: They have John Cena's last ever match on Saturday night's main event. [SPEAKER_01]: The Miz has a long history with John Cena, so we get into all that with him and much more getting to his career. [SPEAKER_01]: He's been there forever now at the WWE.
[SPEAKER_01]: So good stuff with the Miz on John Cena, who is leaving the WWE before the year is even up after one of the greatest careers in the history of pro wrestling. [SPEAKER_01]: So let's get you right now to the Miz on this bonus episode of SI Media with Jimmy Tranan. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, joining me now, huge week for the WWE of John Cena's last show on Saturday, Saturday night's main event on a peacock and you're someone who is certainly had some history with John Cena.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is the Miz, this little bit of history, little bit, I feel like I have been [SPEAKER_02]: Slighted, if you will, because I feel like I have one of the most profound histories with John Cena. [SPEAKER_02]: I've been tag team champion with him. [SPEAKER_02]: I beat him in the main event of Russell Mania. [SPEAKER_02]: I've had multiple Russell Mania's with John Cena. [SPEAKER_02]: How many people can actually say that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, literally the beginning of my entire career was kind of [SPEAKER_02]: with John Cena. [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like it's went through maybe 15, 20 years of just nonstop feuds with him. [SPEAKER_02]: And then literally two years ago, I was in the ring at, I believe it was par clays. [SPEAKER_02]: And actually, tagging with him, which kind of came full circle with everything. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think that would be my last match with John Cena, but I guess it will be.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little upsetting. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a little like it's one of those things like I remember when he first started this whole the time is now tournament tour. [SPEAKER_02]: Like where it's like, hey, I'm retiring in one year. [SPEAKER_02]: I was the first person, literally the first person, but my name and the hat and go, I wanna go up against John Cena. [SPEAKER_02]: I want to take on John Cena. [SPEAKER_02]: One last time, the Miz versus Cena, and it never came to fruition.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I could sit there and say, uh, to this, it's that the other thing, I don't know what it is. [SPEAKER_02]: Could it be the fans did not, uh, literally ask for it? [SPEAKER_02]: And because I mean, when I saw AJ styles tweet, and then seen a tweet back, and it's like, that's how this matches start, that's how this could have happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like all I had to do was tweet, and all I had to have was the fans have my back and say that [SPEAKER_02]: and be vocal about it, that's all I needed. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I guess my fans don't do that. [SPEAKER_02]: And so I blame them. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so you're talking to them. [SPEAKER_01]: Did you have a go to Triple H or whoever and say, can I get a less match with John Cena sometime in the next year? [SPEAKER_01]: I went to everyone, you know, it's.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what is that like when they all shoot you down and you don't get it? [SPEAKER_02]: It's not even like that it was shot down. [SPEAKER_02]: There was instances where it could have happened, right? [SPEAKER_02]: And things happen in this industry that nobody really knows about. [SPEAKER_02]: And you don't need to know about, right? [SPEAKER_02]: It's like there was a moment where it could have happened. [SPEAKER_02]: And then that moment went away because of certain circumstances.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it never helped us back. [SPEAKER_02]: And how scary. [SPEAKER_02]: I could be angry right I could sit there and say like I'm so mad I'm so angry or I can look at it and go okay. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: What do I I try to not [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I've been in WWE long enough that I know things happen. [SPEAKER_02]: Domino effects happen. [SPEAKER_02]: If something changes is one thing here goes this way and the other one goes that way, this thing can't happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been here long enough to know. [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't get mad. [SPEAKER_02]: I get more or less like, okay, how can I make the best of a situation? [SPEAKER_02]: And what can I do to bring out the best and do my best? [SPEAKER_02]: And that's all I can control. [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I, you know, I feel bad that you said you feel like you haven't gotten your do here when it comes to history with John Cena because I know for you to think. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, here's what I'll say. [SPEAKER_01]: This is what I wanted to say because for me personally and I, I actually, I think I discussed this with John once on this on this on this pot or or somewhat and then during another interview.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of the, if you say to me, what is like the five best things that WWE has done in the last 10 years, I am absolutely putting in the feud you and your wife had. [SPEAKER_01]: with John Cena and his then girlfriend, Nikki Bella, where you did those imitations of John on, was it total divas, a total Bella's, I forgot with it. [SPEAKER_02]: Go to like Bella, BS is what we call it, like right. [SPEAKER_02]: So we did our own spin-off of total Bella's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: that was some of the funniest shit I've ever seen in my life because you were perfect. [SPEAKER_01]: And I remember to like, I've been saying this throughout the year here with John's retirement tour. [SPEAKER_01]: He does not get enough credit. [SPEAKER_01]: The key should have won an Emmy for his work on that show.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember telling him that when the show was like maybe Stallone and I think he didn't want to like admit like, [SPEAKER_01]: might not be a quote unquote reality show but like what he did on that show and then what you and your wife did Marie Spoofing that show was brilliant you know it's funny [SPEAKER_02]: When that was first coming to, I guess I could use fruition, when it was first coming to be, you know, nobody, the fans did not want that.
[SPEAKER_02]: John Cena's in a mix is gonna be in a mixed tag match at WrestleMania. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't want this. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want this. [SPEAKER_02]: Our job is to make everyone want it. [SPEAKER_02]: And by the time, WrestleMania came about, [SPEAKER_02]: We were the talk of the town, like everyone was talking about it. [SPEAKER_02]: And then when the match happened, everyone was like, oh, that's a runner for match of the night. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a mixed tag match.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is not supposed to be a runner for especially at that time in that era. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not supposed to be. [SPEAKER_02]: a runner for, you know, match the night. [SPEAKER_02]: But it was. [SPEAKER_02]: And then the next night, Marissa and I come out as Nikki and John, and literally the place blows the roof. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it blows the roof off the place.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we created something, and by the way, to the credit of Nikki and John, they let us do whatever we wanted. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's the, that's the genius. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I think a lot of baby faces don't want. [SPEAKER_02]: Baby faces don't want you to come at him. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you know, I'm a baby face. [SPEAKER_02]: I got to be the guy that everyone cheers. [SPEAKER_02]: I can't look stupid. [SPEAKER_02]: I can't, you can't make fun of me.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't get over on me. [SPEAKER_02]: That was a program that got everyone over. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the beauty of what we do. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the, that's what you need to do. [SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes baby faces don't want that. [SPEAKER_02]: because it's like, oh, you can't say that or you can't do that. [SPEAKER_02]: John has always been an open book. [SPEAKER_02]: If you're gonna come at me, I'm gonna come at you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who had the idea, though, to use total bellas as sort of a, so for you to use a writer, that was creative. [SPEAKER_02]: So creative came up to me in Marace and says, hey, we got this idea where you will imitate John and Nicky for me in Marace and I was like, I don't know, you know, I don't think that'll work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was in the car, and I remember we were driving [SPEAKER_02]: a show at and Marisa and I were talking about it and I just started talking how I would how I would do the John Cena voice what I start getting into character if you will and then she started getting into character. [SPEAKER_02]: And we just started going back and forth, and we couldn't stop laughing about it. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, maybe this is something.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when WWE came to us and it's like, yeah, we're getting the whole crew from Total Palace, like the real crew. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, Duna Murray is going to be filming all of this. [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna film it exactly how they film Total Palace. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's what we have for you and Marisa and I would look at it and we'd go, oh, we can make this better. [SPEAKER_02]: And so we would start just improving while we were doing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It came out like, I mean, if you look back on those, I still want them. [SPEAKER_02]: They're historical. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he, you know, he set the stage when he was on that show with the quote unquote house rules. [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, there was just so much fodder there for you to play off of. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's funny you mentioned the production company.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm not mistaken, that's the production company who did the real world, correct? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the real world, they didn't miss and misses. [SPEAKER_02]: Full circle moment for you there. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and honestly, like, I think, [SPEAKER_02]: I think us doing that total Bella's stuff kind of helped with us getting Ms. and Mrs. as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In terms of Sina, [SPEAKER_01]: So he's we've got Saturday peacock Saturday night's main event. [SPEAKER_01]: You'll be there Washington, D.C. Yeah, definitely will you will you try to have a private moment like can't even get to John Cena at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like yeah, they'll be around you'll be I I knowing John Cena, he'll be around all day and he'll want to talk to everyone and [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's crazy that it's his day because if you know John Cena, it's not very John Cena like to have an entire show revolve, right now, you might be like as a fan, like, oh, the show is revolver, oh, John Cena, because he deserved it and he worked for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But to literally have like a tribute show, it might be weird because he's very humble. [SPEAKER_02]: Like you don't, you might not think it, but he is very humble and so to have a show, I feel like he's doing it the right way where he's dedicating the whole show to kind of the up and coming superstars. [SPEAKER_02]: Now for me, the Miz, then now the Miz would say, I'm going to make this show all about me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to try to make this show all about me because that's exactly what the Miz will do and always wants to do. [SPEAKER_02]: So I will try. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I'll be able to do it. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see. [SPEAKER_01]: It is amazing because when we set this up, I said in my head, it feels like you've been there forever. [SPEAKER_02]: How long is it back now that you they're like, oh, he's been there forever. [SPEAKER_02]: I've been there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tough enough, right, it's 2004. [SPEAKER_02]: But if you count when I got signed, that's 2005. [SPEAKER_02]: If you count when I first came out as the host of Friday and I'd smack down, that's 2006. [SPEAKER_02]: It all matters of where you see how long I've been. [SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden, if you went from tough enough in 20 to getting signed in, what you did you say tough enough? [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what I did with that?
[SPEAKER_02]: So it tough enough, after tough enough got done, I got offered to do another challenge.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, like literally right after like the next month, but WWE already said like hey, we're probably going to sign you they didn't say as a matter if we're going to sign you they said we've I think we're going to offer you a contract and I was like oh man and then I thought if I do this next challenge I'll be on TV while I'm training so I'll still be I'll be able to keep my fan base in MTV right and then I will be able to
[SPEAKER_02]: Utilize that and it'll be on TV for probably a year because it takes time to edit It takes time to you know get it on to the show on to the MTV and so I'll be on for an entire year while I'm training down in [SPEAKER_02]: mental and hopefully, by the time it's over, I'll be able to go up on TV, hopefully it'll be that year. [SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of what I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I kind of made, not WWE weight, but I was like, I'm going to do this show for one month and then I'll be there in July. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll move wherever you want me to move and they were like, we want you to move to Atlanta, Georgia, and make [SPEAKER_01]: So wait, you did that. [SPEAKER_01]: So that was before because they had Ohio Valley.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so how Valley wrestling they had when I was there, but they had a new place called Deep South Wrestling which was gonna be a coach by Bill Demont and it was in a shopping plaza.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I was in the first show that we've ever did and I remember Bill saying like, if you can sell out here, [SPEAKER_02]: And sell out for a long time, then you go to the next territory and that's the way it used to be in wrestling where you would sell out one territory, then you go to the next territory and you try to sell out there and sell out there and so at there until you get to the big the big markets right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was our goal, our goal as a team, as a unit, as a deep-south superstar, your goal is to sell out. [SPEAKER_02]: So I remember we were putting posters everywhere, everywhere all over McDonough, Georgia. [SPEAKER_02]: And our first show was sold out. [SPEAKER_02]: We had to turn people away and then the next show and the next show and the next show. [SPEAKER_02]: Until like, I remember when I left, I think for six months, I was a deep-south.
[SPEAKER_02]: It became the first ever heavyweight champion. [SPEAKER_02]: And then once I became champion, Paul Hayman kind of, uh, I guess drafted me or brought me to Ohio Valley Wrestling to see what I could do up there. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was a baby face at Deep South Wrestling and Paul brought me up to Ohio Valley Wrestling. [SPEAKER_02]: And when I got to Ohio Wrestling, I was trying to be a baby face.
[SPEAKER_02]: But [SPEAKER_02]: the crowd was kind of, it wasn't a new territory, right? [SPEAKER_02]: It was a territory that's been there for a long time. [SPEAKER_02]: They've seen it all. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was this cheesy baby face with a ton of energy and just saying all the cheesy stuff and he goes, you know why this is, and I remember Paul Heyman just sitting there in his office going, you know why this isn't working? [SPEAKER_02]: And I go, no, he goes, because you're a heel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I go, I don't know, man, down in deep south, I was selling all the shirts, all the merch. [SPEAKER_02]: I was, we were selling out, I was, yeah, he's like, you're a heel. [SPEAKER_02]: And so I remember us writing our, my first promo. [SPEAKER_02]: He actually wrote, I was to 99% of that, that promo, my first ever heel promo. [SPEAKER_02]: And when I went out there, [SPEAKER_02]: And from then on, I've been a heal my entire career, and he was correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah, he made me a heal at a Ohio Valley wrestling brought me to a Ohio very wrestling. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's been a fun ride ever since you had a couple of runs as a baby face now. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I feel like that that missed out stuff, which was great was, [SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, I mean, well, this, so with Miss Dau, Damian was the, was the baby face. [SPEAKER_02]: I was the heel. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of like a kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been a baby face a couple times with the character that I am and and as a superstar. [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to be a baby face because, you know, you always say you don't change anything, right? [SPEAKER_02]: But if you don't change anything and people will need baby faces to win, you wanna root for a winner. [SPEAKER_02]: You don't wanna root for a loser. [SPEAKER_02]: A heel can lose.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as my character, I can make you forget about that loss in a matter of seconds. [SPEAKER_02]: A baby face has a harder time making you forget. [SPEAKER_02]: Because when you're rooting for someone, you're like, ah, you know, like, [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the student always loses, like, why am I cheering this guy that loses all the time?
[SPEAKER_02]: But as a heal, I'm booing this guy, and I hope he loses because my guy, my, my, my guy, my favorite guy is going to beat him up, and that's what you want. [SPEAKER_02]: You want to celebrate that, right? [SPEAKER_02]: So that character works a lot more.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, I'm, I haven't actually, like, [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't say a hard time, but lately it's like I have so much equity and built so much equity in WWE and people know me from whether it's real world, misin misses, any of the shows, other shows that I have been on, you know, even now people will know me from American Gladiators as the host, which will come out in 2026, but that's in a whole another thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's now I have equity and when I walk out, even though you know, [SPEAKER_02]: the character and you know the miz and you know what he's going to do. [SPEAKER_02]: You kind of like it and you're kind of like right I respect this guy and I know this guy more than I know the guy other guy in the ring so I'm going to unless it's like a huge huge even when it is a huge huge baby face I still am like oh like lately like this I would say this is like the last.
[SPEAKER_02]: six months to a year. [SPEAKER_02]: Where I walk out and I go, I'm the bad guy, but then I'm like, oh, I'm not really the bad guy anymore. [SPEAKER_02]: You're no matter what I do. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: No matter how bad I am. [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't kind of matter anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: Because that was sort of my point and bring up how long you've been there. [SPEAKER_01]: Because I do feel like when you've been there for 20 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the fans, it's like, okay, heal, baby face. [SPEAKER_01]: He's been here for 20 years. [SPEAKER_01]: We know this guy. [SPEAKER_01]: It's more of a comfort thing than like, okay, as a healer, baby face and how do we react? [SPEAKER_01]: It's, yeah, it's a comfort when you see the men. [SPEAKER_02]: My goal now is just to get you invested in the match. [SPEAKER_01]: And out of the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what I will do in the ring, [SPEAKER_02]: I've been there for so long that like now I'll just listen to a crowd and I'll see where they're at. [SPEAKER_02]: And if I can get them to start booing me, I'll do it, but also if I'm like, ah, this crowd, it's either it's too short of a match or I need to figure things out. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll work it and I'll go, okay, I can, I can literally, I'm, it's going to sound so, you get to scope, but that's the miss.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will literally just, [SPEAKER_02]: do whatever I need to do to get to what I think this crowd needs and get them to the best possible point that I can get a map, whether it's them cheering me or them booing me. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the kind of match that now I'm going to start having. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I spend been having for the past year. [SPEAKER_01]: I look forward to seeing what you do on Saturday there.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you get to mix up with John, you know, I was gonna ask you. [SPEAKER_02]: But you don't know whatever what's gonna happen and honestly nobody really knows what's gonna happen. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the best part about WWE. [SPEAKER_02]: You really don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a live show. [SPEAKER_02]: And if they're the day of and sometimes you know, your numbers called, other times it's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I'm able to figure something out, which you better believe I'm gonna try, then we'll figure something out. [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like this is what's going to happen. [SPEAKER_02]: Like a rookie's going to come out and he's going to come out and be like, I have ruthless aggression and like smack a dude and it's like, all right, cool, I get it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that won't work. [SPEAKER_01]: You'll have to intercede on that and then, you know, fix the segment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to ask you, I wanted to ask you, what is something about John Cena? [SPEAKER_01]: We might not know. [SPEAKER_01]: And you had said, you said he's actually very humble, but is there something on the lighter side? [SPEAKER_01]: Something in the locker? [SPEAKER_01]: Is he a prankster? [SPEAKER_01]: Is he, I don't know, does he like to play video game? [SPEAKER_01]: You'd be surprised.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you've, I think that he's done so many interviews to this day like now you're like, yeah, he speaks Mandarin and it's like, yeah, he does, you know, so I mean, you know that already, you know, he is always the the first person there last one to leave. [SPEAKER_02]: You know that already is a hard worker. [SPEAKER_02]: You know that already. [SPEAKER_02]: He's very genuine and full of knowledge and wisdom.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you don't realize how smart, truly smart he is, because you look at him as maybe like a guy full of muscle, but the dude's incredible. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, no, no, I feel like you got it. [SPEAKER_02]: He's a down to earth, genuine, humble person [SPEAKER_02]: has taught me so much not only about the business but about life and I'm truly thankful that I have been able to not only be against him in the ring but learn from him and actually call him a friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think you have to be humble or arrogant to be able to pull off [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's arrogance. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's balls. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, granted, you get to see them, but I think it's a matter of going into that situation and looking at it and going, you have the top of the top.
[SPEAKER_02]: The cream of the crop in all of Hollywood, and that's where, obviously, that's where he wants to be, because [SPEAKER_02]: he's been doing peacemaker, he's been doing all the movies, and he's been doing, he's been successful at it. [SPEAKER_02]: So this is one of those moments where you're going to go in front of your peers that you are not the John Cena of WWE. [SPEAKER_02]: You are, I mean, for a lack of a better words, he's not the, he's not top of the top.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a list. [SPEAKER_02]: He's not main event. [SPEAKER_02]: He's, he's mid to top card, I would say. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, [SPEAKER_02]: He's the guy that puts butts and seats and you're going to pay tickets to see him, but he is not clocked in a party. [SPEAKER_01]: He's not in an order to catch it. [SPEAKER_02]: Corrected as an actor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yet, I think you'll get there because I know the work ethic of John Sina, but in that moment where he was there, [SPEAKER_02]: he was not there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they present him with an idea and he has the balls to actually do it which is unbelievable in my book and when he did it I was like oh my gosh I couldn't believe it and John is the type of person that knows how to make a reaction and get a reaction and have people talking and that's exactly what he did after after the Oscars what were people talking [SPEAKER_02]: There's still a minute. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not talking who won? [SPEAKER_02]: Who won best? [SPEAKER_01]: Who won?
[SPEAKER_01]: Does the one best picture that year? [SPEAKER_01]: You don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: Does does the men's have the balls to do that if they kill you with that kidding? [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that is, that's going out there. [SPEAKER_02]: But it was a funny segment. [SPEAKER_02]: Like it worked with the segment as well, by the way. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think anyone else would have done it. [SPEAKER_02]: I really don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that is like an actor in Hollywood, especially at the level that he is at. [SPEAKER_02]: No, they wouldn't know, but John is and you have an idea. [SPEAKER_02]: You have an ability to either do one of two things. [SPEAKER_02]: Walk away or go for it. [SPEAKER_02]: And WWE always tells you go for it because you might not [SPEAKER_02]: because you're going to have the next time in the next time in the next time to try to six feet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that might have been I would assume what helped him with that was being part of the attitude era because if you're a wrestling fan who follow the attitude era, him going on stage naked isn't really all. [SPEAKER_01]: He was a part of the attitude. [SPEAKER_02]: He was after. [SPEAKER_01]: He I thought he was there for a little bit of it towards the talent.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like close and I think he [SPEAKER_02]: Right, so that the additator is 99 right 98 right, but it was before PJ before PJ correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like maybe I think it's easy to say this is it now because you don't know five years from now or ten years from now it's it what you're what you're I you don't even ask question it's done it like it is this is last match if John Cena says this is my last match this is his last match what about not a person that will huh what about last appearance in double UW no no I think he'll be around [SPEAKER_02]: I think, I think, and by the way, I have not talked to him about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know this for a fact, but in my mind, in the way I know John works, John will always be a part of WWE. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: It's in his nature.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's what brought him to where he is today, and he loves WWE, but you know, and I don't know, I don't know this for a fact, but [SPEAKER_02]: This will be, I know that in my mind and in my heart and knowing John Cena and who he is and being around him for the past 20 years, I know this is John Cena's last match. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I do know. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I can believe that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're in this last promo, his last being there on commentary or whatever, whatever, WWE may need, but match-wise? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: This is it. [SPEAKER_02]: You'll never see him in the match wrestling and doing the shoulder tackle, shoulder tackle, swing, [SPEAKER_02]: boom, you can't see me, bam, A-A-A-C-A-B-I-1-2-3. [SPEAKER_02]: You won't see that anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: I just think, I mean, I can't see that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, but when you, when you're so adamant about it, it's like, be careful. [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I think about? [SPEAKER_01]: I think about the Russell Mania two years ago, where they had that tremendous finish when Cody beat Roman, and John came out, the rock came out, Seth Rollins came out, and then the [SPEAKER_01]: You know, let's say there's something like that down the road. [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a match. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's this last match. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, got it. [SPEAKER_02]: So there's there's a difference, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: All right. [SPEAKER_01]: Before I let you go, I didn't want to know who's the miss. [SPEAKER_01]: No, she is a die hard, die hard. [SPEAKER_01]: Cleveland Brown's fan. [SPEAKER_01]: How rough was this past Sunday?
[SPEAKER_02]: This was probably the roughest loss in my opinion, [SPEAKER_02]: I hate to say, Tennessee sucks, right. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not good at all. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think everyone knows that and the fact that they scored 31 points on a number two defense in the entire NFL, like, what are you kidding me? [SPEAKER_02]: And then this, it's, and it wasn't like, and people can be like, [SPEAKER_02]: Shoulder had like over 300 yards, like he looked viable, like he scored 29 points.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think that was the problem this today. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was, to be honest, I think special teams has cost us three or four games this entire year. [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, I'm not a football player. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a fan. [SPEAKER_02]: I watch and I see and I look. [SPEAKER_02]: I think that I think Shador could be maybe has highlights of a fact that he could be a franchise quarterback, is he there yet?
[SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: But, and then I look at, you know, our running back amazing. [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's incredible. [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think we need wide receivers. [SPEAKER_02]: I think our defense is stout, but they just, there's something going on that they can't win. [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, like, you look at [SPEAKER_02]: And you look at them and it's a whole different team. [SPEAKER_02]: And they have a, they're winning the close game.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now granted, they didn't win yesterday. [SPEAKER_02]: But they win the, they've been winning the close games. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's when you know a team can win. [SPEAKER_02]: Look at Kansas City cheese. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not doing it anymore. [SPEAKER_02]: They used to be able to win those close games. [SPEAKER_02]: Like if there's a three point game and you got two minutes left, and you got Patrick Mahomes having the ball, it's over.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know the case he's winning. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not there anymore. [SPEAKER_02]: And the Browns haven't had that. [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know what it is. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's culture. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's building. [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's not the coach because I think Kevin Safansky is an amazing coach. [SPEAKER_02]: I truly do. [SPEAKER_02]: I really do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so people have been saying, oh, you know, the two point, you know, conversion. [SPEAKER_02]: Why didn't you have Shader in there? [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I trust and believe in our coaching staff. [SPEAKER_02]: I do believe that they're doing the best they possibly can and it's just something's off. [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know what it is and I wish I could tell you, hey, this is what it is. [SPEAKER_02]: And this is probably the reason why you know, we are stuck where we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: But guess what, we got a great draft coming next year, great draft, you know? [SPEAKER_02]: And I was mad at our draft picks this year, and then now I look at what we've gotten. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, our linebacker might be the rookie of the year, like he's that good. [SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, I was mad that we didn't get Travis Hunter. [SPEAKER_02]: He's not even playing right now. [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm, and we got a first round draft pick for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm pretty happy about that. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's a good spin, but yeah, that's a good spin, yeah, that was I was beyond shocked on Sunday because I thought the Browns were building a little more men on their defense was so good [SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, that piss-por-team. [SPEAKER_01]: What are you saying? [SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about? [SPEAKER_01]: You were watching the game. [SPEAKER_01]: I think I think teams will play down to their competition.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, play down to competition. [SPEAKER_01]: I think if they were playing the Patriots yesterday, they would have had a better performance. [SPEAKER_01]: I think they took the Tennessee Titans for granted. [SPEAKER_01]: I think the weather was a factor because what surprised me, I had money on the game. [SPEAKER_01]: What surprised me was, they threw the ball so much. [SPEAKER_01]: and have a great running back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could not believe how much they threw the ball and I think but it wasn't what they used to think the offense was the problem. [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, the defense was 100% the problem, but I didn't like the play calling at all yesterday, but the play calling. [SPEAKER_01]: But I know, but what I'm trying to say is I think what happened was, I think they weren't able to run the ball because of the weather. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's why they ended up throwing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the weather was definitely a factor in the game. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so they pivoted and I think they did a good [SPEAKER_02]: But the defense was, I don't understand it, like, how do you have a number two defense give up 31 points to the worst team in the NFL? [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm at a loss, like I don't even know what to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, watching Tony Pollard run, like, like, I don't remember what it was like 60 yards and I'm like, what is going on here? [SPEAKER_02]: This is not, this is not the defense that I thought we were asking. [SPEAKER_01]: are most of the WWE guys, I mean, we know Seth with the bears, you get the browns. [SPEAKER_01]: Are most WWE guys big football for, like his football, big topic in the locker room? [SPEAKER_01]: I was just, yeah, I mean, we look a lot fantasy, fantasy league.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is when I was, I was in it and I wanted a couple times and I was just like, I have too many leagues that I'm in that I literally am like, all right, I got to take one off. [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, we talk a lot about football in the locker rooms. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's amongst some of the things that we talk about. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: How many, how many leagues do you have? [SPEAKER_02]: Right now, I'm in four.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in a league, let's see. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in my Cleveland League, which is my friends from high school, that we've had since we were in high school. [SPEAKER_02]: I have a league that is the NFFC. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a charity league where if I win, I will donate all my charity to the Jimmy V foundation. [SPEAKER_02]: And then also I'm in Michael Fabiano's league where Allison chains.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's their Allison chains in friends league, so it's like, you know, Jerry can't travel, tough McAig and, you know, Michael Boobley is in that league. [SPEAKER_02]: I think Jerry O'Connell's in that league. [SPEAKER_02]: Like we have, but we have a lot of fun people in that league. [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm in another league in LA. [SPEAKER_02]: I actually just lost to John legend who might have just taken me out of the playoffs.
[SPEAKER_02]: which I'm really angry about, oh, and I'm in a guillotine league where you pick a team with like, it's like, [SPEAKER_02]: I think 18 teams and each, each week, a team leaves is out. [SPEAKER_02]: It's out state. [SPEAKER_02]: If you have the lowest points, you're out. [SPEAKER_02]: I was out like second, second, but last year we won. [SPEAKER_02]: So that has, like, John had a German Paul Rudd in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: How does it come about where we have the miss from the WWE and a fantasy league with like the Sue Kroner John legend? [SPEAKER_02]: That was like one of my buddies was like, [SPEAKER_02]: And I've known a couple a couple of the people in the league. [SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, yeah, I'll get in it and then, yeah, John's in it and he whoops me. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I was so mad because I had him. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I was winning and then he just came out of nowhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like his team is stout. [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's got like a really good team for a 12 team. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he might win the league and he won it last year, I think. [SPEAKER_02]: So, [SPEAKER_02]: It's not, but I might, I might make the playoffs if all the six, seven teams Luke, why still the chance? [SPEAKER_02]: I still have a chance. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_01]: All right. [SPEAKER_01]: And do you do any wagering?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll hear you on Fandoil or Draft Kings or you. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't do, I don't do any of the, uh, the game. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not okay. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really a gambler, like I wasn't lost Vegas now, and my dad was like, let's go like a casino, and I'm like, I don't know if I barely, I go to the casino to eat food. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't go to gamble. [SPEAKER_01]: So you live in Vegas now? [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Who'd the Vegas down with LA? [SPEAKER_02]: What prompted that change? [SPEAKER_02]: Many, many things. [SPEAKER_02]: LA's changed. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And then also I drive. [SPEAKER_02]: And I live in the suburbs. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like two hours to get to LAX every single, every single week.
[SPEAKER_02]: I changed from being on a Monday night Raw where I drive on a Sunday where there wasn't much traffic to Friday night SmackDown where Thursdays at the time that I'm traveling, which is usually around five o'clock is rush hour. [SPEAKER_02]: So that was a two to two and a half hours to get to the airport every single week. [SPEAKER_02]: And then at half a half back, I was like that. [SPEAKER_02]: And then, [SPEAKER_02]: insurance skyrocketed man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm telling you when when you hear these stories about the fires and all that stuff, you don't realize it because I'm from Cleveland. [SPEAKER_02]: I was like fires, what are you talking about? [SPEAKER_02]: And then you see what's going on and you see and you're like, oh, and your eyes open wide open, you're like, oh, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: And so that kind of, that kind of it. [SPEAKER_02]: And so there was a bunch of stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if they I would assume you take McLaren did did do you get recognized there often? [SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah, I mean of course. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I wear a hat so it's not like I'm out there being like Hey, everyone the miss is here. [SPEAKER_02]: So but I do get recognized every day, but it does it doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of nice actually I'm not one of those people that like are like oh [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, dare you ask me for an autograph for a picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now sometimes, at 430 in the morning at an airport, I'm not really in the mood to do an autograph signing for 100 people, or if a one person has a hundred autographs for me to sign, I'm not there to do that. [SPEAKER_02]: But if a kid comes up, I try to make sure that I make an experience out of it for them. [SPEAKER_02]: That's great. [SPEAKER_01]: All right. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't understand the whole concept of the autograph. [SPEAKER_01]: But that's just me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: So like, you know, you sign your piece of paper. [SPEAKER_02]: You go home with it and what so as a kid, I get it because when I was, yeah, yeah, I remember I remember standing in line for Michael Dean Perry at the local hardware store and he was late by like like two hours late and I was the first in line with my buddies. [SPEAKER_02]: We brought a football. [SPEAKER_02]: And we got an autograph, and I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: I stood in line for Pantera when I was 18 years old. [SPEAKER_02]: And it was the coolest autograph signing to this day. [SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen an autograph signing better than this autograph signing because they were like drinking like crown royal and having fans, drink crown royal, fill made out of my friend's girlfriend while in line.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we were all just like, [SPEAKER_02]: It was a cool, I mean, I'll never forget that autograph signing, like it was the only time I've ever stood in line for an autograph and well, I get the whole of the graph and yeah, pre iPhone, I get the autograph thing, but yeah, you know, so yeah, there was no iPhone back then. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: All right. [SPEAKER_01]: We got Saturday night's main event on Peacock.
[SPEAKER_02]: The list of the WrestleMania man. [SPEAKER_02]: get your tickets on ticket master for WrestleMania both nights, you know, and in Las Vegas in my backyard and honestly like there's no matches scheduled but you know what you're getting when you go to a WrestleMania especially the entire week the entire week is the most fun especially last year in Las Vegas it was
[SPEAKER_02]: unbelievable the amount of events in the amount of fun that is here in Las Vegas and the amount of things to do that are that are wrestling related is unbelievable. [SPEAKER_02]: So I'd definitely go to take a master, get your tickets April and you're not going to want to miss it two nights. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody there's got to be nobody who's who loves Russell, many more than you if it's in Vegas, and you let go of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's you get any I see my back yard is literally the allegiance stadium like I can literally see it. [SPEAKER_02]: I can like that's where we'll be playing in a couple months. [SPEAKER_01]: Did the Browns played the Raiders this year, right? [SPEAKER_01]: And it was that late. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was there. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you were there. [SPEAKER_01]: That was the first game should are played. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, and you will be, that's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was recent. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, and you'll be in Washington on Saturday for Saturday, it's made of NOMP. [SPEAKER_02]: I will definitely, I think everyone will be there. [SPEAKER_02]: I think, I think it would be a really special show. [SPEAKER_02]: I think everyone's gonna want to see it. [SPEAKER_02]: And don't forget, SmackDown is on USA this week. [SPEAKER_02]: You're not gonna wanna miss it.
[SPEAKER_01]: SmackDown Friday, Saturday, it's made of NOMP Saturday, Monday and I were on Monday. [SPEAKER_01]: We say goodbye to John Cena and we'll see how this is how the milk. [SPEAKER_02]: I at least I outlasted John Cena. [SPEAKER_02]: How about that? [SPEAKER_02]: How about that for a headline? [SPEAKER_01]: And if you've never watched the spoof of total balance, get on YouTube and do that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, WWE's got it all up there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also, if you want to watch Miss and Mrs, you can see it on peacock all three seasons, all 50 episodes. [SPEAKER_02]: something to watch. [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen them all. [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen them all. [SPEAKER_02]: And in coming in 2026, American gladiators, your host right here. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, do you understand how excited I am for people to see this like we filmed it in the summer and then nostalgia of.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it holds it in the nostalgia of what American gladiators was and brings it to what it is today and it's it's different, but it's still the same, but there's there's there's the same events, but the gladiators are new the contenders have amazing stories myself and Roxie Diaz and Chris rose really bring it [SPEAKER_02]: And the energy's high, it's a lot of fun and you're not going to want to miss it. [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be on prime and it's coming in 2020, section.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, I'm telling you if this show is special, it's so special. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, I can't wait to check that.
[SPEAKER_02]: more to check out from the miss thanks man appreciate all oh and miss golf on youtube check it out i got it my own youtube channel i'm doing everything bro i'm gonna say who uh uh and you have kids how do you do all this i'm believing i i bring them with me on the golf like i i i let them play with me and they actually like golf which i'm like this is awesome yeah all right man appreciate it be well thanks a lot all right you let me see i got some
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