"A Very, Very Big Deal." Countries Take On Fossil Fuels
Dec 17, 2025•14 min•Ep. 1397
Episode description
Many countries are frustrated with U.N. climate conferences. While some countries urgently want to transition away from fossil fuels — the main driver of global warming — others are blocking that language from climate agreements. Today on the show, Emily talks with Julia Simon from NPR’s climate desk. She takes us to Brazil and introduces us to a group of countries that are trying something new.
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