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Property Pressure: Buy Now Or Wait?

May 24, 202243 min
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When considering purchasing property it is so easy to get caught up in media hype and fall into other people's ideas of what we should aspire to. In this episode we discuss the current state of the property market, check our values and how they align with external pressures in society. We'll give you some things to consider when deciding whether to purchase property. Do you do it now or wait to save a deposit? We’ll talk inflation, available grants, increased land value and so much more.


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Speaker 1

Just before we get started, we'd like to acknowledge and pay respect to Australia's Aboriginal and torrest Rate islander people's. They're the traditional custodians of the lands, the waterways and the skies all across Australia. We thank you for sharing and for caring for the land on which we are able to learn. We pay respects to elders past and present, and we share our friendship and our kindness.

Speaker 2

She's on the Money, She's on the Money.

Speaker 3

Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast for millennials who want financial freedom. My name is Georgia King, and joining me as she does each and every Wednesday, is Victoria Divine V. How are we doll?

Speaker 1

Hello? Thanks for having me today.

Speaker 3

Are talking buying property? Some cold and hard stats to kick us off, I'm ready. Did you know there were almost five hundred and ninety eight thousand house and unit sales across Australia over the year ending August twenty twenty one. What That's the highest number of annual sales since two thousand and four, and it's a forty two percent lift on the annual number of sales over the previous twelve month period.

Speaker 1

That's a feisty stat I reckon, that's fisty, big. I was trying to be cool with my language.

Speaker 3

I love it and I welcome it. But that's that's a lot of sales considering how expensive everything is at the moment.

Speaker 1

But I'm sad about it. But at the same time, it kind of makes sense. We've all heard how crazy the property market has been recently, so I think it's Yeah, I don't think it's a bad thing at the same time as being absolutely terrifying for anyone wanting to enter the market.

Speaker 3

And I guess it's supply and demand, right, Like, that's why.

Speaker 1

Exact prices exactly. Gee, all of this is exactly why I thought it was super important to talk about this today. Look, today's episode is basically another pep talk from me to you and to everybody who listens, and a little bit of a values check in. It's so easy to fall into other people's value systems and then out of our own completely. It is also way too easy to buy into what the media are saying to Please don't forget.

Do you remember it, like mid pandemic, they were like talking about our housing price is post pandemic absolutely going to go through the floor. It was plastered across the front page of literally every major publication news publication that is in the country. And then now they're like, oh, what do you mean, we didn't say that. I don't know what you're talking about. Market is wild, Millennials can't

get in and they're eating too much avo toast. Again, like it's just the media likes to hype things up, and at the end of the day, the market comes down to two things. Supply demand. That's it. You hit the nail on the head before. Supply is low, demand is high. We all want the same thing, we're all working towards similar goals, which shifts the price of those things up right, And it just makes logical sense. Things are more expensive if there's only one on offer at

the moment. Cost of can of coke going to be the same whereof you go because it's in abundance. Cost of a very expensive fancy bottle of Grange wine, well, it depends where it is and how many are out there.

Is it on a corner block like who knows? But it's one of those things where I think too often we play too much into what the media is saying, but then also take it too seriously, like the media is there for entertainment purposes, Like, obviously there's some level of truth to it, But do you really think they're reporting on housing prices because they're just so worried about your personal education? Georgia King, Well, they probably want your

eyeballs for that reason to sell advertising. Ah haha, same page. Keep listening to our podcast and listen to our ad So today we are going to talk about our values and how they align with external pressures in society and the media, and what is happening in the market. And we're going to give you some things to consider when deciding whether you're going to purchase a property or do you do it now or do you wait and save

for a bigger deposit. We're going to talk about inflation, We're going to talk about available grants, increasing land value, and so so so much more. G King, Are you ready love it?

Speaker 3

It's been a while since you and I have done a property Podvase, so I am quite excited for this to pepper my questions your way.

Speaker 1

It's almost like we stopped doing property podcasts when we got our own property podcast.

Speaker 3

On that v is the property playbook coming back anytime soon.

Speaker 1

It'll be back second half of this year. But don't tell anyone I told you fabulous.

Speaker 3

Okay, let's begin today's potty by discussing a few common catch phrases or mabercart if you like, well, yes, myth, I want you to respond to the following. Here we go.

Speaker 1

Okay, I'm ready.

Speaker 3

Rent money is dead money, No it's not.

Speaker 1

It's a lifestyle expent brilliant.

Speaker 3

The Australian dream, No.

Speaker 1

Sir, not a thing. Who's dream? Your dream? The Australian dream? What about Georgia's dreams? What about her dreams?

Speaker 3

Man?

Speaker 1

You look pressed. We will take this offline later. But in the narrowest sense, the Australian dream is literally the belief that in Australia, home ownership can lead to a be life and is an expression of success and security. Owning property, at the end of the day, is not security if it messes over your finances, and rant can

often be better in some personal circumstances. I think it's quite interesting as well, because you know, we just talked about having your own values and aligning to your own things, and then we're like, but it's the Great Australian dream like, let's just stick to our own dreams, not like the

Great Australian or Great American dream like. Unfortunately, everything in the entire world has changed since that was the reality, and we can't expect the values of somebody in the literal fifties to be guiding what we want today.

Speaker 3

What is the current state of the market, Like, is it still pretty grizzly on perspective?

Speaker 1

Buy it's not that bad, look, it's pretty grizzly. In fact, I attended an auction last weekend last weekend a couple of weekends ago, and the house that was being auctioned off, which was around the corner from my parents, and obviously we were all pervy whent four hundred thousand dollars over what they said it was going to go over, Like, let's contextualize that for a moment. That's literally someone else's house,

Like somebody paid for an entire other house. They were like, it was so nice they needed to buy it twice, like insane to think obviously it was a bit more pricey, Like that's why all there, because we were all herby, but four hundred thousand dollars over what it was worth Like that to me sounds insane. So they did say that the property market would actually end up bottoming out, but it hasn't happened yet. It is actually starting to boom.

In fact, in the quarter up to December twenty twenty one, so the last three months of last year, the weighted average of the eight capital cities residential property price index rose four point seven percent that quarter and rose twenty three point seven percent in the last twelve months. That means property in general g increased by twenty three percent, which pretty good investment if you have the ability to

actually get into that investment asset class. The total value of residential dwellings in Australia rose five one hundred and twelve point six billion dollars to nine thousand, nine hundred and one point six billion dollars this quarter, and the mean price of residential dwellings actually rows forty four thousand dollars to nine hundred and twenty thousand, one hundred dollars. Like that is so far out of the scope of so many people's budgets, it's not funny. Like let's break

this down a little bit more. G you want to buy a million dollar property great, that seems like a wild number, but in most capital cities, a million dollars is the mean, right, you want a full twenty percent deposit. How long is it going to take you to save

two hundred thousand dollars the rest of my life? Yeah, But like that's just it is so far out of touch with what is actually achievable, especially when the average salary is eighty two thousand dollars a year in Melbourne, Like, eighty two thousand dollars, What can you save each and every single month. Maybe if you're lucky, you're saving like

two thousand dollars on that salary. That's assuming that you don't have any dependence, no personal debt, and the ability to save, which is a privilege that is denied to many of us. Like so many of us have financial commitments or think about the amount of people who are in our community who have to spend money on medical expenses and medications, and like it's just so crippling to me mentally to look at that and go, that's just so unachievable.

Speaker 3

It is extremely intimidating looking at that as someone who's not yet in the market fee And we've spoken about this on the podcast before, and I mean, I don't think we've spoken about this in probably six months or so, you and I, I mean on this podcast, and the fact that the numbers are still so far out of reach. It's in this house went four hundred thousand dollars over reserves.

Speaker 1

But the facts not encouraged to have that disposable capital. You just look at it and you're like, what, but that's SAE.

Speaker 3

Has that because it's obviously not first hold bias.

Speaker 1

No, absolutely not. And I'm assuming I don't know this for sure, but I'm assuming that the property that I saw go four hundred thousand dollars over was brought by a developer because it looked like, you know, was down in my parents place near the beach, and it looked like one of those properties that they'll probably stick to townhouses on and disappoint every other resident in that suburb, you know.

So it's it makes sense, but it's just really, I guess disheartening to see as somebody who you know, I run this community and I want all of you to be successful, and so many of you have the value of purchasing a home. It breaks my heart to think that, you know, you're not going to achieve your goals. But at the same time, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're

behind financially. And I'd hate for you to think that, oh my gosh, if I can't achieve this goal, i haven't been able to make it or I'm not successful, because that's not the case at all. I think we've defined success based on somebody else's history, and now owning property is more of a luxury than a necessity or a hygiene factor as it used to be. In the same way that you joke about, you know, owning a yacht, like it might become the norm to not be able

to afford it. And there are actually lots of cities around the world where owning property that's not normal. Like you look at New York, basically nobody there who is living there lives in a property that they own because they genuinely can't afford it. So it might be becoming our new norm, and that, you know, it's disappointing when accessibility was so accessible historically. But I just, yeah, breaks

my heart a little bit. But let's get into a little bit of the background of what has actually been happening up until now. And I've got a few dot points, so let me run through those for you Gking. First things first, is that housing turnover, which is the annual amount of homes that are for sale as a percentage of the total dwellings that exist, trended lower from late twenty fifteen as credit and lending conditions ended up tightening.

You know how we had the whole Royal Commission and we looked into it, and therefore it was harder to get a home loan, and then housing affordability became more challenging, and transaction costs like stamp duty actually became increasingly expensive as prices rose. Then national turnover reached a record low in June twenty nineteen, when only three point seven percent of Australian homes transacted over the year. Since the credit policies have now loosened and mortgage rates have now reduced

a record lows. Thank Fully, this has encouraged Australians and you know, our community to participate in the housing market, which has been good. So it's not as though it's just like the last twelve months that have been hard. It's actually been the better part of seven or eight years.

And then to add insult to injury, a higher rate of household saving since March twenty twenty has boosted consumers deposit levels, which is really good, but it's also boosted their mortgage serviceability, which means they're over paying for property

because they just want to get in. While government incentives like the stamp duty concessions that are currently on offer and deposit guarantees have also supported demand, so it makes sense that people are trying to pay more for properties because they're like, Wow, I've got this extra casholder that I've saved over the panide and now I want to

put it towards a house. And if there are enough people doing that, that's obviously going to boost prices up and change the way you know, supply and demand works. And then by the end of August twenty twenty one, housing turnover had reason to five point six percent, which is the highest rate since December two thousand and nine. So all of these base is saying that it's not

slowing down. Unfortunately. Sorry sorry sorry, but imagine if just not eating smash Diver was actually the answer, that podcast would have been like three seconds.

Speaker 3

Imagine. So they riddled me this through the pandemic or the Panini Panini you're still trying to push that and coin that, and I love that. No respect that.

Speaker 1

You don't though, there's not a lot of respect to this table right now.

Speaker 3

The pandemic, a lot of people lost their jobs, they took pay cuts, they were greatly impacted financially. It follows as the media assumed, and we all assume, that the market would crash. I just don't understand why it's gone up. I guess as you just outline, like supply and demand and all of these different things have happened, but I'm just confused as to who is buying these homes.

Speaker 1

Look, I think that we really need to look at, you know, what happened during the pandemic in a little bit more black and white term. So I think that the media really played into what we visually saw as the pandemic, because if you look at it, yes, thousands of people lost their jobs. I am not underplaying that there was job seeker, there was job keeper. Like this was hot on either politician's minds. It was on the media like that's what we were talking about, because the

media didn't have heaps of other content to push. But also those stories are far more interesting than you know, Victoria Devine who got to work from home and now just couldn't go to the office. And I think that there are so many stories similar to mine where you know, and I feel massive guilt for that because I'm like far out, like I, you know, and I tried to

do as much as I could. But I was okay through COVID and arguably was in the incredibly privileged position of being able to save a little bit more during that period of time because it wasn't paying for parking, wasn't catching the train, you know, I wasn't having to put fuel in my car because I was working from home and the type of job I have is online in your ears, Georgia, and it meant that I got to work from home. But that privilege wasn't something everybody experienced.

And the fact that so many people were, you know, unable to work doesn't take away from the fact that there were so many people who just had corporate jobs who you know, maybe were planning on buying a house in the next five years. Their additional savings meant that they were able to buy it three years early. So I think once we weren't stuck in our homes anymore, people were like, you know what, I've got so many

different values now. I think there was a massive increase in the amount of people who were like, no, I actually do want to buy a house. I didn't think I wanted to, Now I do. I don't want to live in an apartment. I want space, I want land, And that seems to be for a lot of people buying property far more preferable people are now buying further out, pushing out regional property prices because they're like, now I can work from home. G I've learnt so much about it.

So I think that as much as we visually see so many people who had suffered through that, and like, there's no downplaying that, it's absolutely messed up when it comes to the property market. There are so many people who are first home buyers or second home buyers or even third home buyers who got to sit in that little white collar bubble where they weren't actually financially impacted

in any way, shape or form. In fact, they were benefited, you know, not in general because I think I played on everybody's mental health, but financially benefited from staying home.

Speaker 3

Yeah, right. It disproportionately impacted the lower income work.

Speaker 1

Yea disproportionately so, and it's so unkind and so unfair, and I do think we should have done so much more, But unfortunately I'm not a politician. But what I can do is look at what economists are saying and how that's working. And basically what happened is there were just a whole heap of people who were saving a whole heap of money, and even if they weren't saving money, they were just coasting along and still able to buy.

So people who were lower income earning or you know, front facing or didn't have white collar jobs ended up suffering far more than those of us who were, you know, in jobs where we weren't very lucky to be able to carry on business as usual from home.

Speaker 3

Okay, well said there v with this increased value of property pretty much across the board, that means then that land is going to also be higher in value at the moment.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yes, in general across the board. So when you have a look at land, and I mean there is obviously always the risk of buying overvalued land, you need to look at a few things. So you need to look at one, how long you're willing to buy it, and It goes back to our friend Warren Buffett's quote that you said on another podcast very recently, if you wouldn't consider holding it for ten years, you shouldn't hold it for ten minutes. I think the same applies for

property as well. So you don't actually want to look directly at the price and be like, oh my god, like that's going to go down twenty or thirty thousand dollars in the next few years. You actually need to look at it over the long term and go, well, what's just going to be worth in ten years? What's my actual intention on purchasing it? And I have lots of conversations with my clients about this because so often they go, vi, when's the best time to buy property?

And the answer to that question is when you are personally ready. It's not when the market is ready. It's not when the market is low, it's not when the market is high. It's actually when you personally have the financial stability to service alone and actually take that on with minimal risk. So from my person perspective, I have told clients before buying the peak of the market. Are you saying you're ready right now? Yep? Great, No problems

let's go. Because even if you are paying twenty or thirty thousand dollars over what you feel like it should be worth, you're securing the asset that you wanted for the long term, and that's going to pay off over

the long term. So from my perspective, like, there is a risk of buying overvalued land, But the real question is like how long are you planning on buying this, and should you really be buying an asset that you're planning on disposing of after two or three years, Like is that actually a good idea for you in your

personal situation? And maybe it is, I don't know. But at the end of the day, land value is always going to be higher because it has far more potential and ability to grow assets essentially than an apartment.

Speaker 3

So you can add more value to a piece.

Speaker 1

Add your value to a piece of land you actually own it, and there's no like other tenants or other people to take into consideration. We're making that decision unless you're buying like subdivided land, and there might be a body corporative there's three or more properties, but let's not

get into that. So it's interesting to actually see how it's valued, but Essentially, if you're buying a block of land, it's you and only ug king who makes the decisions about that block of land, pending council approval obviously, But if you went and bought a one bedroom apartment in the Melbourne cbit, like, really, how much can you sell that for when there's such a saturation of similar offerings on the table at that point in time to your offering? Yeah,

does that make sense? So like there's volume, but then there's also the inability. You can't just put another bedroom on. What are you gonna do? Knock into somebody else's kitchen? Like, rude, don't do that. It's rude, It is illegal, but like mostly rude.

Speaker 3

Really interesting there v I feel like that's a question that I hear a lot is why because people kind of know at exotally that buying an apartment isn't as financially beneficial as buying a home, but they can't necessarily put their finger on why.

Speaker 1

It's land. Yeah, the end series always yeah, it comes back to land, And like I mean, at the end of the day, it's also not a bad thing to buy an apartment, And you know, I've done some research and there's a lot to say that buying land in a not very well developed suburb or a suburb that doesn't have access to good infrastructure or has no real capital growth potential is worse than buying an apartment in a really high yielding area if it's an investment, because

you could release it out, Like, there's obviously pros and cons to both, and like, you know, if you ask someone who grew up in the fifties, they'll be like, buy land, sun, Like that's a good idea. That's the only way you go. Well, it's not the only way. But what I want is to be educated and understand why one might be valued at more than the other, and then make an educated decision as to which is most accessible for me, in which is going to work for my situation. For a lot of us, an apartment

might be the perfect fit. It's not to say it's bad. There's just a number of things that I would take into consideration, and if that's a decision that you personally are making. There's an entire episode on the Property Playbook about land versus apartments, So go and listen to that because I've got a few tickets on myself. I think that's a pretty good podcast as well.

Speaker 3

A lovely little plug there. We are going to go to a quick break now, guys, But on the other side we will be talking about inflation, lender's mortgage insurance, and plenty more. So please don't go anywhere straight back into it, vickid.

Speaker 1

I'm ready.

Speaker 3

A lot of people at the moment are talking about lm I, lm I, LM ILMAFO.

Speaker 1

Okay, okay, moving on lm I. Let's talk what is it lender's mortgage insurance. Please do not be deceived. If you are in the position where you've been speaking to a broker, which you should have done. You should not be organizing alone on your own, because I just feel like having a professional on your team is going to put you in the best possible financial position. But if you're talking to your broker and they're like, look, you're going to consider LMI, it's not an insurance for you.

It doesn't protect you. Gee, You've got to pay for it because it protects the lender. Like it's lenders mortgage insurance that they're based asking you to take out because you're not paying a full deposit. And when we say full deposit, it means that you're not paying that full twenty percent that most banks ask for when it comes

to mortgages. And do you know, there are actually a fair few people who don't actually have to have a full twenty percent deposit, like dentists and doctors and accountants, like they can actually get home loans without having to pay a full twenty percent because they have like a fancy profession. So if that's you, talk to a mortgage broker sooner rather than later because they can work that out for you. So fancy right. I did not make the cut because financial advisor is not nearly as legitimate

as an accountant, just so you know. But essentially, l am I, it's the lender taking out any insurance policy against you for the risk of not recovering the full outstanding loan balance if ugking can't pay all your mortgage back, which makes a lot of sense as to why they

would want it. But let's do a little example. So, as I said before, if you're borrowing more than eighty percent of the purchase price, so you don't have it the twenty percent deposit, that's the flip side of the coin you're going to need to usually pay LMI, except if you're fancy pants to calculate an LMI premium, it's so simple, Gking, it's not. Actually, you can just google LMI calculator and then your state and it will come

up and you can just do it yourself. But to summarize it, you're going to multiply your lm I rate by your loan amount. So if you want to buy a house, G. That's worth let's say five hundred thousand dollars, the bank is typically going to make you pay that twenty percent deposit, so of five hundred thousand dollars, that would be one hundred thousand dollars. But let's say you've

only saved fifty grand. You're like, look, I have fifty grand, but I really want to get into the property market, and you've got sufficient income, so they're like, look, looking at your income, you can pay back that mortgage. You might be able to get LMI and actually take out this insurance, pay fifty grand, which is half the deposit that you would have usually required, and then they would lend you the four hundred and fifty thousand dollars that

you would need to purchase your home. So G, you've got your fifty thousand dollars deposit right, and you need to pay LMI on a five hundred thousand dollar property you're going to end up in Victoria. I have calculated the costs to be twelve thousand, one hundred and ninety two dollars. You would then need to pay thirteen hundred and seventy three dollars in government fees. There's like a few optional costs that I would recommend budgeting into that.

So I'd probably budget about one thousand dollars for a conveyancer and then maybe like four to six hundred dollars for a property inspection. You know how I always talk about building and pest inspections being really important. And then, because you are purchasing under five hundred thousand dollars, so you're taking four hundred and fifty thousand DO loan, you don't have to pay any stamp duty at this point

in time, which is very sexy. Whereas if we compare that and you're buying the million dollar property because that seems to be the average here in Melbourne and in Sydney, and you've got one hundred thousand dollars in savings, you'd actually pay fifty five thousand dollars worth of stamp duty and then forty three thousand, seven hundred and ninety eight dollars in LMI, and then you'd have twenty five hundred

dollars worth of government fees. And then from my budgeting or high level budgeting, you still have legals and conveyancing at one thousand dollars in property inspection between four hundred and six hundred. Right, So the amount is massive and elm I can obviously creep up. But the thing about el am I is so many people scoff and go, oh my god, Victoria, I'm not going to pay forty three thousand, seven hundred dollars in LMI. That's insane. You go, yes, but like, what does it mean to you to be

in the market earlier? And would you pay that amount of money to not have to spend the next you know, ten years potentially saving up another one hundred thousand dollars to have that full twenty percent? Like is this worth it for you? And at the moment if you see, you know, doing some not so complex but quite straightforward

calculations we've seen over the last twelve months. We said it earlier, twenty three percent property growth twenty three percent return on a mortgage, which on average at the moment

is two point five percent. That's pretty good numbers. So I feel like too many people look at ELMI and go, oh my gosh, I'm never going to pay that, it's a waste of money, whereas some other people look at it and go, no, that's the cost of me getting in the market today, and I can make money laiter down the track and I can make it back, and it might be okay for some people. It's just far more feasible because that l am I you don't have

to pay it upfront. It can actually be rolled into your mortgage, which means that paying it off is much easier than often saving for a lot of people, because mortgages often act as like a forced savings plan in a way. I'm not here saying that, oh my gosh, you absolutely should be paying l am I or not, because,

to be honest, it's personal preference. Like it makes me feel arguably quite uncomfortable paying for something that you know, Steve and I could save for and if it took us a little bit longer, which it did, g to save for a property, that's what we wanted to do. But as a financial advisor, if I weigh up the pros and cons, there are absolutely circumstances where for clients paying l AM I was absolutely in their best interests.

And then there are circumstances where I'm like, no, mate, your cash flow is so good, just save for a few more months and you won't have to pay it. So it's really really personal. But if I was you and I was thinking about using LMI, I would be googling an LMI calculator and how that works in my particular state. Most banks have them, so use whatever one works best for you.

Speaker 3

What if you're someone v who only has say a five percent deposit available to them, and they're not on a cracking salary, say they're beneath the national average, would you say that lender's mortgage insurance is not a good option for them because it's just providing them with a mortgage that they can't necessarily afford, or would they not be given that anyway?

Speaker 1

No, you can absolutely do it with a five percent. It depends on what bank you're going to as well. And to be honest, this is where the best port of call is going to be a broker, not a financial advisor. So a mortgage broker is going to go, yeah, all right, gee, if you've got five percent, these are

the banks that'll lend you, these are the ones that won't. Like, mortgage broking can actually be relatively complex, especially when it comes to the semantics of one the loan, but then to the loan functionality, like do you want offset or redraw? How do you want at to work? Are you buying the property outright for yourself you're buying it in a trust?

Like what does this actually look like for you? And then to add insult to injury, it's obviously far harder for people who are self employed or have just started their own businesses to get loans, and there are far less banks that are willing to lend you in that situation as well, So it can be really frustrating. And that's why I think getting involved with a mortgage broker, even if you're not ready to buy, I think is

really smart. Because I've had a couple of clients, and I keep saying clients g because I have a mortgage broking company now and spoiler, we are having two very gorgeous women join the team as of the first of July, who I can't wait to introduce to you. So I have had clients come to me g and go, oh my god, Bee. I wish I'd spoken to a broker earlier. I have been busting my life away trying to save for another two years when I could have just paid l Ami and I worked it out. That would have

been better for my situation. So it all depends on what you know circumstances you're in. But I genuinely believe in having a chat with a broker earlier and establishing that relationship up front. Like we've spoken about it before on the podcast, but I think when was the last time we spoke about the Hour of power? George King would have been it's been a while, but that still exists. You're breaking it back. No, it's still been okay, well

when anyway, I just stopped talking about it. But the Hour of power essentially is this hour where you get a dedicated hour with a mortgage broker to sit down, do your serviceability, do a savings plan, organize your budget, organize your cash flow to make sure that you're in the best possible position to purchase a house without feeling like you're overwhelmed or just trying to get that fifteen minute free conversation with a broker that'll actually sit you

down and be like, right, this is exactly the plan you need to follow to get into your first home. This is what we can do, and this is how we can do it. But the hour of Power is basically like the spoon fed version of getting into your first property with a broker on your team. But you do pay for that session, and I think that is absolutely worth its weight in gold. Like everyone who's done it has always said like, I am shocked that this

is so good. But back to your question before, when you're saying can you get in with five percent, Yes, you'll just pay more el am I so on that five hundred thousand dollar property, instead of paying that twelve thousand dollars in l AMI, you'll now pay sixteen. That's anous So it makes sense, right, not too shabby, Not too shabby, according to g Okay.

Speaker 3

Good rundown of al Ami there V. Let's move on though, and chat about guaranteurs.

Speaker 1

The privilege is showing from the worst exactly right.

Speaker 3

It is a bit of a should not be one. What are your thoughts on guaranteurs and also can you explain them for anyone who's not across them.

Speaker 1

Okay, so first thing, first, we have an entire episode. This is just like a property playbook pitch right telling you how good the property playbook podcast is. But there's an entire episode on guarrant tour loans and how they work. But summary is guarantor loan works as a way to get you into the property market sooner, and you might need a small light and in some cases no deposit at all if you have a guaranteur that has enough equity in their property. A guaranteur usually a family member

here in Australia. It usually has to be like a mum or a dad. It can't be a sibling or an aunt or an uncle or even a friend who is really kind that can't work. It has to be a family member and they offer up the equity in their own home as additional security for your loan. So it might be you know, one hundred percent security if you know they are boomers and brought their house for the twenty two thousand dollars in nineteen sixty eight. Now

it's worth three million dollars. But a guaranteur is essentially going to guarantee that you'll pay the money back, because as much as they're offering up their equity, they're also putting on the table that if Georgia King doesn't pay off her loan, they'll take the brunt of that and take over the repayments before they have to recover it from somewhere else. So it is a lot of responsibility

and you do need to think about it. A guarante loan is a privilege that most people don't actually have, but if you're in the lucky position of having it, please don't feel guilt. Like this community is not about going, oh my gosh, I can't believe they have it's so easy, because you never know somebody's circumstances and just because they had the property thing down pat does not mean their entire life is sorted on the flip side. And this

community is all about lifting everybody up. So like, I want to celebrate if you've got a guarant tour loan, even if it's not something that's completely accessible to me. I think it's important to understand it. But I do feel like there has been some very unnecessary commentary recently about people calling other people who have guarant tour loans entitled or it was easy for them, because just because the deposit part we're skipped does not mean that paying

off a mortgage for anyone is easy. So to summarize all of that, a guaranteur can be a very good way to get into the market. Again, it means that you do have to have a parent in your life that is financially secure enough to be able to offer that up. It does mean that they can't sell that property while being a guaranteur. But the cool thing that I think a lot of people don't realize about guarant tour loan is they're not the guaranteur on that loan forever.

That the guaranteur on that loan until you pay enough off to meet the deposit, and then they can be released as a guaranteur. So I've seen a lot of people, especially my clients who get guaranteur loans, create like a little contract with their parents to say, all right, in two years, once I have paid down X amount, you can be released as a guaranteur. Because the parents are like, look, I just don't want this going on forever because I might need to retire, or I might want to access

the equity for my own wealth creation. So I think that that's pretty cool. But then the other important thing to note is that the guaranteur has absolutely no requirement to make any repayments on that loan on your behalf.

But if you're not able to make repayments and the bank's been chasing you, Lalenda will then turn to the guaranteur to make repayments, which kind of makes sense because they said Gking was good for it, and then maybe Gking was being a bit naughty, so they're going to go to the person who said she was good for it. But in this way, it is completely possible to get a home loan even when you have a small or maybe even no deposit.

Speaker 3

There are also lots of first home bias schemes floating around at the moment, aren't there.

Speaker 1

Be, oh my gosh, so many? And if you are a first home buyer and you have not been looking at these schemes, please do. I know a lot of people don't realize that they might be eligible, but you totally are. But essentially four major national government schemes and at the beginning of the financial year of twenty twenty two slash twenty twenty three, the government is planning on providing a total of fifty thousand places each year under

the various schemes. The first one is the First Home Guarantee, which used to be called the First Home Loan Deposit Scheme, and right now they have thirty five thousand places each in every single year available, and it allows first home buyers with deposits as low as five percent to qualify for a home loan without having to pay that pesky LMI.

So if you have five percent deposit, you won't have to pay that what was it, sixteen thousand dollars in LMI if you're paying for a five hundred thousand dollar property. So essentially the government will act as the mortgage insurer. For example, if a borrower provides a deposit worth five percent of the property value, the government's actually guaranteeing fifteen percent of that property value, making the risk to the lender exactly the same as if the borrower provided a

twenty percent deposit. It's kind of good, very neat. The next is the Family Home Guarantee, which is a little bit more niche. There are only five thousand additional places a year under the Family Home Guarantee from the first of July twenty twenty two to the thirtieth of June twenty twenty five, so it hasn't even started yet. It's coming up in July. This is an initiative that exists to help eligible single parents with dependents purchase a family

home sooner, which we love. And under this scheme, single parents can buy home with only two percent deposit without having to pay elamite. How good's that?

Speaker 3

That's pretty good.

Speaker 1

There's obviously so many more semantics to these that you need to consider and obviously can't purchase over a certain amount and rah rah. But like, if you're a single parent, saving up twenty percent is a ridiculous thing to think you could do in your own lifetime. Whereas you might actually have the cash flow to afford a mortgage, you actually just don't have heaps of free cash flow to save up enough for a deposit, and that could be usually the big hurdle that you're looking So I don't know,

I really like that one. The next one is the

Regional Home Guarantee. Double the places, so ten thousand places under the new Regional Home Guarantee from the first of October this year to the thirtieth of June twenty twenty three, So this scheme is going to be open to first home buyers and anyone who has not owned property within the last five years, which is an interesting I guess addition to that guarantee, and the legislation for that is currently still pending, so we're not sure if we'll get that one, but we will know very soon and is

very likely to pass, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to mention it. Gking on the pod brilliant. And then the next is the first Home super Saviors scheme, which, as you guys know, I think is a pretty good money win. The first time Super Savior scheme, if you haven't heard about it before, allows first home buyers to save their home deposit for their first home inside their super account, which means that you get to take advantage of concessional

tax rates. Right, So, as we know, tax rates inside superannuation of fifteen percent, but most of us will probably be paying thirty two and a half cents on the dollar for tax, and that means that you get a pretty good rebate. So under this scheme, the government has increased the total amount of savings borrowers can release from Super from thirty thousand dollars which was over two years, to fifty thousand dollars over three years, which I think

is far more. I don't know. That just makes a lot more sense to me, G. Because who in their right mind in Melbourne or Sydney only has thirty thousand dollars for a home deposit.

Speaker 3

You'd be buying a tent in the woods.

Speaker 1

But my calculations are that if you're in the situation where you're making use of the thirty thousand dollars, not the fifty thousand dollars only because I have the thirty

thousand dollar example in my head. If g you were on a seventy thousand dollar income and you were planning on saving you know, over three years for a home deposit and wanted to get to about you know, thirty thousand dollars, if you did that inside superannuation on a total of like thirty thousand dollars, by contributing fifteen thousand dollars each financial year after three years, you would have saved six two hundred and ten dollars more a standard

saving account. If it was in your suit it was in your superhot instead of if it was in your savings account. So to me, that makes a lot of financial sense to consider it. If you're planning on buying your first home. There are obviously a few caveats, like you can't pull it out without proof that you are purchasing a property, and there's a higher marginal tax rate if you do pull it out, so you can't just like whip it back out without you know, giving them

some money. But if you're planning on purchasing a property, and hypothetically, if it was coming up to the end of a financial year, you could dump money into superannuation if it was aligned to your values in the middle of June, and then the same in the middle of July and make both financial years and then buy a

house within a few months. So technically, if it's pre June right now and you're listening to this podcast, you can actually make use of both of those fifteen thousand dollars amounts before the end of this actual calendar the year. Little hack, well hack, if you wanted to do it only from experience, my love.

Speaker 3

Very good. That's second last question for the day.

Speaker 1

All right, I'll allow it.

Speaker 3

Let's talk about the word on everyone's lips inflation.

Speaker 1

Oh that is not what I thought you were going to say, but yeah, let's talk inflation, my love.

Speaker 3

At the time of recording, inflation sits at three point five percent and the RBA doesn't expect it to fall back with it it's two to three percent range until the middle of next year. We've talked inflation of the show many times before. But for anyone who's new to the show or wasn't listening, can you please give us.

Speaker 1

A little recap who wasn't listening, You've nailed in Yeah, exactly, it's been literally three years. Gee, in literally three years. I'll get there one day. But inflation is essentially how much things increase in price, So the cost of the goods and services that you purchase on a daily basis g and how much they increase over time. And obviously the best example of this is the McDonald's twenty cent cone or George, you're younger than me, so you reckon

it's the McDonald's fifty cent cone. But what are they now? Like a dollar something else? I remember when they were were they two dollars for a little while there?

Speaker 3

Hooracity don't like it.

Speaker 1

But essentially, it's how much goods and services increase over time, and you would have heard this like the amount of people saying, oh my gosh, well, in my day, I bought my first house for fourteen thousand dollars. Yeah, okay, Paul,

sit down, it's now worth two million dollars. And I am not getting into the semantics of this argument just because you could afford it, but it's important to understand because the most well known measure of inflation that is not a McDonald's twenty cent cone is the consumer Price index, weighted average of the price of thousands of different goods and services that are commonly purchased by households, which are then grouped into literally eighty seven different categories like meals

out and takeaway food, and women's clothes and domestic travel. And that's how we get to CPI. So I've probably said that in passing before, but essentially CPI is consumer price index, and then the two largest items in CPI are the cost of purchasing newly built dwelling and rent go figure, which collectively make up about fifteen percent of

the index. So essentially that is what inflation is and how it is calculated and why it is calculated, and TLDR it is how much things increase each year in price.

Speaker 3

And how does that impact the home buyer's market.

Speaker 1

It means houses are going to increase each year in line with how much things are increasing in price. In general, things are more expensive. Things just get more expensive, and we should have seen this coming because inflation has been happening right under our noses for our entire lifetimes.

Speaker 3

Can you give us just a quick little like inspo for anyone that's not in the home market yet but wants to be one day, but is still just feeling hopeless.

Speaker 1

Honestly, I think it's one of those things that is still being worked out. I completely understand how disheartening it is when we talk about property and it feels entirely inaccessible, But I think it's also about embracing how much positivity and how much good is coming out of twenty twenty

two as well. Right, so, you might not be able to afford a home, but we now have the ability to travel the entire world, while my grandmother she never got that opportunity, you know, Like, I feel like we are so connected and technology has advanced, and there are so many different things in this world that are gorgeous

and lovely, and we should be embracing. I think that too many times we weigh our self worth on whether we can afford a property or not, and that's a really ridiculous measure of how good we are in this world. So from my perspective, property means absolutely nothing. It's actually about your wealth creation journey and what you're doing to save and invest and create a life for future you. And if that involves property, fantastic. If it doesn't, whatever,

But it also can feel really terrible. G If you just can't get into the market, EG me all right, but talk to a good broker. I think that's it. Okay, go to our website, introduce the self to Kate or Nicky. Both of them are absolutely brilliant, and we'll put you in the best possible position perfection.

Speaker 3

All right, let's go through the disclaimer.

Speaker 1

Who am I, What do I do?

Speaker 3

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We will see you on Friday, friends,

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