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Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast for millennials who want financial freedom. Investing can be confusing, especially when there is so much information out there giving you conflicting advice. Fortunately, there are a range of tools available that will help you invest more seamlessly, all of which Victoria Devine uses herself and that will be revealing live on the podcast today.
Do you want me to tell everybody that I use them?
It adds authority?
Okay, trust me.
My name is Georgia King and the aforementioned Victoria divine joins me as always V another show all about investing today, figure this time is about the tools that make it all easier. Just how excited to you for today's episode?
A medium medium? You know, I'm really excited, but you already yeeded me out and said, O V users these, So obviously I can't have any lead up to be like, oh, I'll find out at the end whether I like it. I can't be like this tool is it good?
No, they're all good. These are all good.
It's true, it's true.
And that is literally my first question of today, is you confirming that you do use all of these tools that we're.
About to dissect. I do actually use all of these tools. And when we were pulling this episode together, we really sat down and had to chat about this because I was like, I don't want to just do a Google of tools, because you can look up investing tools really easily on Google and find out, you know, what the number one is. But this is just what I use and how it works for me. So obviously take all of this with a grain of salt. Obviously, you don't
need all of these to be an investor. These are just handy things that you can have in your toolkit. The tools toolkit perfect so that you can be a more educated and you know, more confident investor. So from my perspective, yeah, I really love all of these. I don't want to be too self promotional.
Though, No, no, no, all good they Let's hop straight into it. The first tool on our list seems obvious, but it also seems like the perfect place to start, and that is to know your budget. Talk us through why this is so essential to our investing strategy.
Now, you guys are not going to be surprised that I started here, and obviously understanding your budget and cash flow is going to put you in a position where you know what you can invest. If you're able to better understand your money, you're able to better create wealth. Like it is a no brainer. I absolutely get so frustrated. G I talk to so many people. They're like, yeah, but budgeting's boring and I don't want to do it. Can you tell me more about investing? I'm like, no,
sit down. You have to do your budget, you have to do your cash flow. If you're know every single dollar that's coming in, everything that's going out, you're not only going to be far more in control. You're gonna know what's left over to invest with, but you're also going to have a handle on whether that aligns to your values and going to be able to strip back what you're spending to allocate more to investing. Like, let's
get it together. It is a very smart idea. Obviously, that is my first step when it comes to figuring out your investment strategy. This process is obviously also going to help you figure out whether you actually have anything to invest or not, or if it's just a bit of a pipe dream at this point, because you know, I don't want to be too negative too early in the podcast, but sometimes I talk to people like, yeah,
I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start, and then we really get into bud and cash flow and you're maybe in a heap of personal debt. I get it. I was so excited to invest when I was in debt too, But paying off your debt is an investment in itself when we really need to prioritize that first. And so from my perspective, like get our financial house in order first, and then we can start our investment journey starts with the budget.
Though sorry, nice, nice, It makes sense without sounding too self promotional.
Sounding self promotional before it's your turn.
We obviously have a budgeting template available on our website, and also there is your Budgeting and cash Flow Masterclass, which I'm feeling could be very helpful for anyone who is having troubles with sorting out their finances.
It is a course that is applicable internationally, and as much as it is a course you like, I don't really want to do it, to be honest. A lot of people download it to some of the videos, but the real value of that course is the tool that is included. It is the budget and cash flow spreadsheet that I have created. If you've never used a spreadsheet in your life, I promise you can use this one because I have created overlays so it actually just looks
like a very fancy notebook. You just pop all your numbers in. It makes a whole heap of sense. But that is going to enable you to take it to the next level. Show you what bank accounts you need to set up and organize and put you in the best position to be successful. You know, I don't want to go on about it and on about it. If you want to check it out, it is on this she's on the money website. There are a whole heap of like testimonials and like examples and exactly what's included.
And then, because you are a pod listener, let's be really self promotional, use the code POD five zero, so pod fifty for fifty bucks off.
Because if we look after our friends, we certainly do. Next on the list is assessing and understanding our risk profile as a tool. Why is it so very important to understand our risk profile before we start the journey into investing?
Do you know what I have you a fit of a laugh about. Over this side of the table, people are going to have started to listen to this podcast being like sick. She's going to give us all these apps we can just download and become super investors. Low
joke's on you. These are actual tools that are actually going to help you, not just be an app that you use for a month and then never log back into and then the next time you look at it Apple Icloud's asking you if you really want to download it back from the cloud, Like that is what's going to happen. If I give you just recommendations for investment apps, it's not going to help your risk profile is one
of the most powerful tools. First tool we talked about, whether you use my budget and cash fload program or not, is a budget. Having that is tool number one. Having. Tool number two is your risk profile, because once your budget is sorted and you know how much money you have to invest, you need to establish how you want to invest and how that fits with your risk profile.
Your risk profiles are like a little bit of a deep dive insight into you Georgia king into you as an individual and what you're willing to put up within the investment world and what you're not and what might feel too risky and what might feel comfortable, so that we're always aligning our investment plans with our goals and with who we are. We've obviously done an entire episode on Cheese on the Money on risk profiles, so have a little bit of a scroll back to that one.
But for anyone who is new to Cheese on the Money, I feel like I've just explained some of it. But it's essentially a process you go through when you're with a financial advisor, or you can do it on your own to figure out how open or adverse you are to risk or to investing riskly and from there you're able to set up an investment strategy that fits with your goals and what you're comfortable with. You really can't start investing without understanding your risk profile because it is
a bit like analysis paralysis. You'll feel overwhelmed, you'll feel like you don't know where to go, and without a risk profile, the options for investing are endless. When you have a risk profile, it really whittles down the options that are available to you. So, for example, if you're a high growth investor, that's where you'd be looking at individual shares and mutual funds, and you'd be looking at
managed accounts. If you are a little bit more conservative, and maybe you're sitting in just like a balanced portfolio, maybe an ETF is a good option for you, and maybe some bonds are what you want to dabble in. The things you can and should invest in is going to veer greatly depending on your risk profile, so knowing it is essential.
G In terms of that as a tool, V is there like some kind of template we can download, like a little quiz we can do the.
Head on the money website?
Do you think I do?
Do you think I do? I do this for you, baby be.
The next on our list is to have an emergency fund set up so that you never have to sell your assets if your investments don't work out. Why is this a handy tool?
Obviously, I encourage absolutely everyone under the sun to have an emergency fund, even if you're not investing yet, even if you're in debt. I'm a big advocate of having an emergency fund even when you're in debt. And the reason is because then you don't have to rely on debt again if another emergency pops up. The reason it's really helpful from an investment perspective is that having a buffer on hand is going to mean that you never
need to sell any investments if something pops up. Like if it's all in investments and then you know your car brakes, what are you gonna do, sell it a bad time and cut your losses, Like, that's not what we're investing for. We're investing for the long term so that we put ourselves in a better financial position. And by not having an emergency fund, you're jeopardizing your investment journey. Bad idea. We don't do that. That is not a
smart thing to do. She's on the Money family member would not do that.
She wouldn't.
We don't do that. As we talk about on She's on the Money time and time again, I feel like I'm a broken record, which is fine because like one day, every single person in that She's on the Money community is gonna be an active investor and I cannot wait. But if you don't have a you to hold your investments for ten years, it's not worth holding them for
ten minutes. If you do have to pull from your investments, that could actually curtail everything you've been working towards and could put you further back than when you started, depending on how the market is situated at the time that you sold the shares. Not a good idea. We don't recommend it. We don't really one out of ten do not recommend. And on that V I know this.
Is probably self explanatory, but we shouldn't have our emergency fund in our investments.
No, I do not invest our emergency fund. Out of ten idea do not recommend. The reason we don't invest our emergency fund is because we need immediate access to it, and investing does have some barrier to accessing it immediately. But also give your emergency fund some slack. It is doing what it needs to do. That money is working hard for you because it's protecting you. Not every single dollar has to have a nominal return.
Brilliant b Let's have a little break there.
We love a little break on that to get a smoothie.
Yeah, go on. On the other side, we will chat through our final three handy tools for investors. It's gonna go anywhere, green smoothie. Let's go v straight back into it. The next handy tool on our list is the ASX website and it's.
Not as self promotional as me going you need my budget or a budget and a risk profile and an emergency fund. Those are three very very good tools. Now we're going to explore the world.
The world outside of SOTOM tell me all ax, it does not exist.
Look, I've written this one down one because the Huster all the time obsessed with them. Thanks guys for being the ogs. But the ASX website is a hub with so much information on it when it comes to the Australian Stock Exchange. It is extremely useful for company information like at a glance. They have like individual company pages and it has tools that enable you to learn more
about companies that you might be interested in investing in. It'll tell you immediately what the stock price is, what the historical stock price is. You can deep dive into their company, like everything that you need is going to be there. They also have really great tools which I feel like not enough people take advantage of, like webcasts that you can watch whenever you want, covering off on a range
of topics. They also have a whole section on how to start investing, and they have information on every style of investing plan and plenty more. Please take this with a grain of salt, though, yeah, because if you go there and you're like, oh, I'm so excited to, you know, get all of this information, it is definitely a little bit drier than you would get at Cheese on the Money. And I totally get that. I'm all about absorbing as much information as possible, but obviously we could have always
googled how to invest. It doesn't mean it's the most engaging content. But the thing I like about it is we know it is correct. It is the ASEX. It is not just some random product website. And that's the next point I want to make about the ASEX website is that it isn't product aligned, which is fantastic, and it means that you're going to receive non bias information
and insights on how companies perform. And while they won't tell you what the company does because they're just about performance metrics, you can for free obviously look at stock's performance on that website, and you can google what the company does. Obviously that is easy to do. Other cool features are that you can set alerts and announcements on
stocks you might want to buy. So SAG you're like, you know what, I've been looking at this stock, but right now I feel like it's a little bit overpriced. I would buy it if it goes down to this amount. Set an alert, asex will send you an email and say, hey, g that stocks at the price that you want to buy it at, and then you can go and buy it at the price you want to buy it at.
That's funny win.
And then also the other benefit here is they're not going to spam you like a lot of other platforms that talk about investing content. I mean, we don't do that. But also they're not going to spam you. Often when it comes to investing, there can be lots of emails that get around and not all of them are relevant. But the AX isn't actually going to fill your in box with dense information that you just don't need, not a sponsored mention as always just good eggs doing good things.
So you did touch on my next question V. When I was doing a little bit of reading ahead of today's episode, I did jump on the ASX website. I feel as someone who is a little intimidated by investing, I found it quite overwhelming in how the information was presented.
It was like me, I wanted to mention upfront that I was like, look, it is a little bit drier. It's probably not what you want it to be. But when it comes to good information, that's where you're going to find.
Some Do you have any tips for like navigating it or should we maybe like starf with She's on the Money and then use the A.
I mean, I would a life start with ses on the Money Because I am trying very hard to cover every single topic for you. But if you want additional information, as I've always said, please don't only rely on our podcast, not because we aren't comprehensive, but because I think there's a lot of power in having a plethora of different places and coming to your own conclusion. My opinion, George's
opinion does not mean it is your opinion. Just because we present it in a certain way or give you a certain idea of something doesn't mean that that's going to work for you. So I'm all about looking externally and finding other places to get information. So from my perspective, have a look on their website. They obviously have a search bar. I would use it mostly when I'm looking for something specific, like I want more information on ETFs or I want more information on a particular company. They
also have the share Game. So the share Game is a game that you can play with fake money that they run a few times a year, where you can basically trade in the market with fake money, and after a certain period of weeks you can see how you and I think that that's actually a really good way, do you know, do a little bit of testing around share trading with fake money. It's basically like playing Monopoly, which we love. However, yeah, it is a little bit dry.
I'm sorry. Sorry, if they're listening, they're not going to be very happy with me, But that's okay. I just think it's important to point it out The other thing is you can always google it. You can always type in ASX website and then what you're looking for, and Google will tell you what you're looking for on that website. I was about to segue into another website recommendation, but I'm not going to do it because I know you're about to ask perfect.
So the next tool V is, of course the surprise. It's the money Smart website and their very handy compound interest calculator.
It's not the only thing I want to recommend. The entire website is seek well.
It has been, and over the last few years doing this podcast, the money Smart website has been a really useful tool for helping me get speed with everything writing a lot.
But they're not you want to talk government, let me.
Know, so tell me more about the compound interest calculator as well as just everything good about the money smart website.
All right, So I recommended the ASEX one first. It wasn't because it came first. It was because I wanted you to like build up and be like, oh, okay, that sounds good, but what's better Money Smart's website. It is so good. Obviously different information though the asex website has a whole heap of stock information and information on companies, whereas the money Smart website is more about financial literacy.
My favorite thing on it, it's no secret I have told you about it a billion times publicly, the compound Interest Calculator. It actually helps you work out what you would make on interest from your investments based on average returns, and compare that to what you would have had if your money had just been stagnantly sitting in a low
interest bank account. All of it is customizable, so you can go in and be like, oh, what would happen if I invested five dollars a week or five dollars a month, or five dollars a year or five thousand Like, you can change all of the metrics. You can change the timeframe, you can change the interest rate, you can change all of it, and it's so friendly. But from my perspective, the best thing about the Compound Interest Calculator is the ability to work out what you're currently doing
and whether it's enough to create financial freedom. So if you're investing and you're like, yeah, I want to retire early, you need to work out what retiring early means, and I'm going to use exactly the same example as they always do, because I want to get into your heads because then it's scalable on either side. But Georgia, if you are trying to work towards a sixty thousand dollars passive income, you need a one point two million dollar portfolio.
So this compound interest calculator is going to tell you whether your current contributions are going to help you get there or maybe you need to make some more. So it's just a cool calculator, Okay, guys, super simple. You plug in all of your information and it tells you what it does. And to be honest, the beauty of this tool is that the maths is easy. You don't have to do it. It tells you, and it has a cute graph to boot free graph. Cute graph we
love above it ten out of ten. So you can see what you're working towards and you can see where your hard work is aiming and be reminded of way you're doing what you're doing. Love.
Yeah, Well it'll help you set those goals as well, won't it.
Yeah?
Exactly obvious.
Yeah, And to be honest, it enables you to really work backwards, like if you're like, oh well, oh I thought that that was a lot, and I know that it can be a little bit disenchanting sometimes when you jump on this website and you're like, oh, I've been investing like two hundred bucks a month. I'm really young. This should equal heaps, and then you're like, ah, it's not going to get me to the goal I thought
I would get to. That's okay, because during different seasons of our life, we have more or less to invest, so it might not be always that it's just this amount per month. That could be more later, or you could just be creating a plan because you don't actually have the ability to invest right now. But you're like, okay, well, I know that in five years I'll probably have the
ability to invest. Whether you're a UNI student or you just don't have free cash flow at the moment, or you're a single mom and you're like, I cannot wait until my kids get to school so I can start earning an income again, Like you can make a plan for the future so you feel more financially secure. Financial security doesn't just come from having cash in the bank. It comes from also having a plan, and to me, this calculator helps you do that too.
So nice. We love I love it too. Other great things about the Money Smart website from my experience just include how easy to understand. Their definitions are about a lot of things. I've got great things very well. Yeah, they just really simplify it all down, but it's very similar to what we try to do it She's on the Money. So love their work. Thank you the government.
Thanks the government.
This takes us to our very last tool of the day, which self indulge. It is, of course, your brand new book investing with She's on the Money. Talk us through it, my girl, tell me all about it and how it will help people start investing.
I like that the note you've put under this question literally just says VD go on rant like thank you, Georgia King in a good way. Obviously, I've written this book because you guys asked for it, and I am eternally grateful that after my first book you actually wanted more content, because I was terrified that it would be a complete plunk. So it's very cool to know that you guys are interested in learning more about investing. I think it was very necessary as well, because obviously it's
not the first investment book on the market. It's not even the first investment book written by woman on the market, but it is the first one that I think genuinely takes into consideration you as an individual and your thoughts and feelings and values and beliefs and behaviors in addition to actually what you need to do to get there, because I think too many times it's you know, stereotypical white male written books, or they feel like white male written books, even if it was written by a woman,
that just doesn't have that level of empathy. So as much as you know, you guys might be going, I don't need empathy, Victoria, just need the information. It's so important that you also have buy in and you understand why you're doing what you're doing, and that's why I do what I do. So the Investing book is really
taking it to the next level. If you read the first book, you know that there is a chapter in there about investing, but that really just scratches the surface of why it's important and gives you some basics, whereas this really deep dives and I've tried to structure it and I don't say this in the book because you know, it's just how I've tried to write it. But I really tried to structure it in the same way I would have created a statement of advice for a client.
So I go through the same process with you in each chapter, so we do the same tick points. So obviously it's going to start with a fact finder and understanding where you're at. Then we'll talk about risk, then we'll talk about all of the things that come after that. And I think that by taking you down that guard and path in a way, you're going to create your
own investment plan. You're going to work out not only what your goals, your values, what you can contribute are, but you're also going to take it to that next level and pick and then implement. And I have spent so long, Georgia, I know you have the book. I don't know if you've gotten to page I think it's one hundred and fifty six. One hundred and fifty six or one hundred and fifty nine, I cannot remember. But at that point in the book, there is actually this
really fancy table that I've made. It's basically comparing all of the popular investment platforms that she's on the Morning community usually has access to in a really simple way. It's a table it has their names down the side, It has ticks to say it invests here, it doesn't invest here. It has the fees, It has the additional information you need so that you can basically go to that chart after you've read the rest of the book, like don't just skip. I mean, I shouldn't be telling
you this, but don't just skip to the end. But it basically will enable you to go, all right, well, this is the platform that makes the most sense to me because I wanted ABC and D and here it is on a platter so that I can make the right decision, because working in Australia means that I can't just spoon feed you the information and say this is the best platform. There's no such thing in reality, because
different things work for different people. But I've taken you down the garden path so that you can work out what works for you, and I think that it's something I'm really proud of. To be honest, it took a long time to get to that, but genuinely, hopefully by the end of it you have your investment plan.
And you should be very proud of it. My girl can confirm it's bloody brilliant. Would you recommend it for new investors or people that like know a little bit or like how far along the journey should people be who are turning to this book.
It is definitely for beginners and intermediate investors. I mean, if you're a really accomplished investor, you're probably going to go v I know. But if you are a beginner or you're an intermediate investor, it doesn't matter if you've never invested before, or you've been investing for a few years and you're just like, all right, well, I've been doing this, you know, this rodeo all by myself, and I just want a better plan. I think that's where
it would come in handy. But to be honest, I've tried to make it everything to everybody in a way, but in the investment space.
Yeah, yeah, brilliant. And would you say you need to read the first book first and then progress to investing this year's on the line.
Good questions, Yes and no, yes, because obviously I am a staunch advocate of doing your budget, your cash flow, and getting your financial house in order before you in there, Like I want you to have those financial fundamentals, and that's what She's on the Money is about. Investing with She's on the Money, though, can be read in isolation. I have read it so that you don't feel like you're coming into part two of a story you didn't understand.
But it definitely is more investment focused, and I definitely recommend reading the first and then the second. But if you don't want that, then don't do it. That's cool, It'll still serve the purpose.
Yes, bloody brilliant. All right, But was there anything you wanted to add.
To today's I think it is time to wrap the boring but important stuff, George King? Can you read it out?
Of course?
I can.
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