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So make sure you check that out. Subscribe follow, all the things I just cannot say thank you enough to each and every one of you for listening following and She persisted, I'm so excited for this weeks episode. It hits very close to home. I have struggled with acne since literally like Middle School. Fifth, sixth grade. I remember starting to get really bad break out and we're still finding routine that really works. But I know this is such a universal challenge for so many teenagers.
And for many, it goes hand-in-hand with self-esteem and confidence and mental health because it oftentimes feels like it's the first impression that you are giving other people and interactions on social. Tia, all of these things. So to have a breakout going on to be struggling with acne can really cause your self-esteem confidence and mental health to
take a hit. So when I came into contact with Danielle and Kaylee on Instagram, I knew that I had to have them on the podcast because they are the acne experts. They are, the founders of clear. Stem skincare. Did yell, is known as the acne Guru. She studied cellular biology genetics and now Owens a acne. Skin care clinic They have a 98% success rate for getting people clear skin and keeping them cleared up. So that is Danielle. Kaylee is a holistic
nutritionist. She is the other co-founder of Claire stem as you'll hear Kaylee was actually one of Daniels patients at the San Diego acne clinic and she herself has also struggled with acne and other health issues. This is such an amazing conversation. We talk not only about Acne Clearing up your skin navigating
breakouts but we also debunk. A lot of tick-tock Trends we talk about Be Botox. We talk about slugging we talk about those Hydrochloric. Pimple patches, anything everything you've seen your for you page. That you're like I don't know if I should be using this Danielle. I'm Kaylee give their expert opinions to tell you what you
should try and stay away from. So this is just an episode that is chock full of information about how you can heal your acne, how you can find a routine that works for you and I highly recommend you guys check out, clear stem skincare.
Their website is clear. Stamps, can care.com, they have this amazing resource on their website where you can copy and paste the Gradients in your skin care, lest you Google let you copy paste and it tells you if the ingredients in your face wash moisturizer, toner sounds great. Except ra have pore clogging ingredients, which can be making your breakouts a lot worse if you are acne-prone. So I highly recommend you guys check that, at the very least.
They also have an amazing line of skincare with no pore clogging ingredients which as you guys can see on their Instagram have helped. So many people clear up their skin and really heal their acne. So I highly recommend you guys check them out. They do have a code. She persisted, I will be using my own code this week, because I'm out of face wash. And I have been using their Clarity serum and their moisturizer, it's called Hydro
glow. And both have really been helping clear up my skin and prevent breakouts. Even as I moved home and been adjusting to the warmer climate. So Game Changer, highly recommend that you check those out. So with that, let's Dive In.
And as always, make sure to leave a review on Apple podcast and Spotify, subscribe follow on Instagram and she persisted podcast and show the This out, if you enjoyed, thank you guys so much for coming on. She persisted, I'm so excited to have you here acne and mental health or something that intersects for so many teenagers and a lot of the times it's at the Forefront of their minds because it's where this the way they're showing up, it's the first thing that they think
people will notice and it is hugely related to confidence self-esteem. And again, it's like a teenage thing that everyone's I go up. You'll have bad skin. It'll suck. It'll be terrible. And so if there are two people that can really speak to that and give advice would be you two. So I'm so honored to have you on the show. Show, thank you. Where Overjoyed to be on. Truly, we love you and love everything you do for your
community. So excited to shed some light, hopefully offer a lot of value and help some people with their skin in the process. Yeah, so starting with out with your background, your story, struggling with acne, and then what motivated you to start, clear, stem and and bring so many resources to people that are struggling with acne. Because the background is we both struggled with Really bad and it got really bad for me in college.
It wasn't so much in high school but it got really bad in college just like face chest body like everywhere, right? And I was under the care of like a bunch of different doctors and dermatologists and trying to find out what was going on and like I was studying biology and genetics at the time. So I would come with questions of like, like, why does why does it get worse after I eat these Foods? Or what does it get worse after drinking?
Or why is this birth control making it better or worse? Just like, About like how it was working and like no one could really answer any of them and I just thought that was wild. So I had to go on, like, antibiotics a bunch of times. I had to do spironolactone changed birth controls a bunch of times, which is just like a nightmare.
Sometimes. Yeah, and then, long story short, I had to do a keychain like three separate times, and it still came back every time and the third round, I had to like, cut short because it was like damaging my vision so bad and it was like, it might have been permanent, right? So long story short, I I decided to solve it myself at the age of 28 after that last round of Accutane failed.
I went to I went up registering and beauty school to get access to skin information, just for myself, but when I was there, I saw a business model for what is now, San Diego acne clinic. So, it's an acne Clinic here in La Jolla, which is in San Diego, and all we do is treat acne. So, basically just the obsession and struggling with my skin for so long, is what started the whole, the whole thing. And then we were formulating stem cells here. To help get rid of the scars for
our ethnic patients. And at that time, I had met Kaylee and I was treating her skin and that is like, we're clear stem was sort of worn. Yes, that's actually where we where we met. I was a Clinic patient of Danielle's and so growing up for me. I didn't have really bad cystic acne, but I just had what felt like constant ongoing acne. So, I did the typical proactive
that everyone does. I also, I went to the dermatologist, I got put on different, which is like a cream that you put on that, like, just just rips apart your face. I remember being so self-conscious in high school because like one summer I was put on different and it was like just peeling all the sides of my face and I was literally about to start the ninth grade and I was like are you guys kidding me? Like you're already so self-conscious like going into high school and just having her
face from part. So I remember like going off the early just because I was like I can't go into high school like this and so I just had constant acne but never cystic and then shortly after college all of a sudden my skin broke out in bright red. Inflamed cystic acne. I was under stress from work, I wasn't eating the same. I was taking a lot of supplements.
I was trying all different types of skin care because I was in the wellness space to. So I had very successful Wellness blog and a really good platform on social media. So I was trying all these different skin cares and like, I just could not get control, my skin. I started going to every doctor dermatologist in aesthetician. In the only solutions I was given was go back on birth control. Go on antibiotics. Go on Accutane. Jane was like I don't want to do
any of those. I know how disruptive they are to your health like Accutane. Like Danielle said, it can cause like vision loss, it's so disruptive to your gut health, into your liver and like and your skin long-term and so I almost went on Accutane. I really didn't want to ride start the process because I truly felt like I had no other
option. I was packing on theater makeup like the thick clay makeup that like Miss America pageant girls wear and I was like, packing that on, I didn't want to leave the house. I didn't want to see friends. I was so embarrassed. I skin because acne like it really hits your mental health. It hits the like you look at yourself in the mirror. I was actually like texting your
girlfriend the other day. I literally just yesterday, she's 23 years old, she's a friend of the family's, and she's been dealing with a lot of acne and shoot. I was reminding her to take progress pictures as I was guiding her on what to do. And she was like, yeah, I I have been taking progress, pictures because I can't even like, look at myself in the mirror just makes me want to cry and I was like, oh my and that's it because that's how I felt too.
And I was like, I understand looking in the mirror like It's so bad but to take progress pictures and put them in an album and you can like look at him later. But they're yeah, they're hidden with the progress pictures because when you look in the mirror every single day and see your acne. It's so hard to see like the little progress because you're staring at it every day.
But when you can take those pictures like you can see, you can find more hope you can you can see that you're progressing forward. So anyways, one last Google search because I didn't want to go on any of these toxic prescription medications Accutane also you like sign a lot of waivers it saying it's linked to depression, anxiety, like all Staff here. Oh my gosh, only that. So one let's Google search a pop San Diego acne Clinic that's where I met Danielle. And I have to be her last
patient of the day. Thank goodness because we ended up talking for about an hour and a half before she even did a facial on my skin. And I had gone back to school at this time to study holistic nutrition. So I felt like, I knew so much about what you put in your body and on your body, the effects that it has. But what I didn't know is how everything pertains to acne and how there's even healthy foods and healthy supplements, that trigger acne. INXS.
And so my whole world was opened up into this. We found out that I had 12 different acne triggers going on and they're like like even simple ones I was using skincare. Pore clogging ingredients. And for clogging oils. I was taking too much vitamin D, too much vitamin D triggers testosterone, which triggers a hormonal imbalance, which struggles triggers hormonal acne. I was eating eggs, every single day, eggs, big acne trigger. So I'd like 12 of these going on. We remove them.
Danielle. Did my facials? My skin was clear in two months and You want to see how bad it was. I see the I can send you a before and after picture see with your community. But also, if anyone goes to our website, clear, stem skincare.com, I'm one of the very first before and afters, and like, you can see the difference, and I got in a proper skin care, routine and remove the acne triggers.
And that's how clear some was born from from this merging of Danielle and I, and our stories and realizing that we just like skin care and what causes acne can feel, So confusing, but with the right information, you know, exactly what to do and exactly the skincare routine to do so you can have clear skin. Yeah, I love that. And it really is such a gap in the industry. Like to my knowledge.
There is not an acne based on facialist, skincare office in the Bay Area. Because whenever I've made appointments and I'm like, can you do like an acne specific ones and I'm sort of like a teen facial and it's really just like kind of a mix of. What are they whatever they have
and it's really hit or miss. There's been so many appointments where I'm like okay this Like went great like I feel like we really did Target my breakouts and other times I'm like, okay of more moisturized, but my acne is the same as it was before. And I similar to you guys did the whole thing with dermatologist, like, six months appointments, trying like seven different creams and oral medications in different birth controls and it is really
difficult to find what works. So, I'm so excited to have this conversation and dive into what you guys know. Because there's, you guys have so much knowledge about evidence-based tips and tricks causes all of that, kind of stuff. I started. In the beginning of what can cause acne, you mentioned a couple of things, whether it's like lifestyle, genetics ingredients, and products, kind of going into.
Those basic causes that people can be aware of, or listen for like, what might be adding to their breakouts. Yeah, really good. Jumping-off point that we like to start everyone on is checking their skincare makeup and hair conditioner for pore clogging ingredients. So the easiest way to do this, is we've actually created a
really great tool for everyone. On our website under education or other resources, there's pork log ingredients list, it has it all list out in alphabetical order, but it also has a search deck so you can Google your product, Google the look up the ingredient deck on the product page, copy and paste the whole
ingredient deck. Not just the key ingredients where there's like, six listed whole ingredient deck, copy and paste it in any poor clawing at your hands, will come up as red and then you can just double check them in alphabetical order below as well. But if it has Before clogging ingredient, that is pretty much telling you that's a culprit for breaking you out. So it could be one of your
products. It could be five of your products breaking you out but that way, you know, the exact culprit that is causing it and that is the number one thing that's causing acne and people is topical products that are clogging their pores and causing acne and causing them to break
out. Is there like one or two products that you see people using where they're like this is helping with my acne or it's like an over-the-counter thing or it's just something that A lot of people use in your like, actually, this is one of the biggest issues, this is so common that we see adding to pore clogging in your routine, static-filled ocean. Okay, that's so funny because my
mom was shopping for my brother. He's in fifth grade right now and he just went to the dermatologist and he's struggling with breakouts and she's like, we gotta get him this 14. I've heard good things about said, I fell like I'm going to get him the morning and night routine but I was like, yeah, that sounds fine.
It's one of the go twos that you see at says, dermatologist recommended on the Bottle and what's a great alternative that people can reach for instead, rather than set a solution, it's that easy to get. We don't generally recommend drugstore products because they generally have a lot of parabens and other toxins in them. The best moisturizer ever is the one that we spent a lot of time formulating and it's the one called Hydra glow and it's on our website.
It's got that like luxurious like consistency and it feels amazing and it helps restore the Skin Barrier, but without any pork loggers and then it has Readings and it also helps with scars. So that is like the perfect moisturizer, but if someone's listening to this and they're like, oh my god. I've been using pet Cetaphil and I need something immediately. They can just go use, like aloe vera gel generally. Okay, that's so funny.
I had a friend at boarding school and she used to get like the like clear pure aloe vera and like every morning and night put it all over her skin and she was like, I don't know what it is but I swear, this is the secret. And so that's amazing to hear that. That's a great solution, Yaks. You look at into like this. Yeah, like the set of a lotion as like, What 20 ingredients? There's a ton of pork loggers in it.
Paraben sulphate, like toxins. That aren't healthy for you can actually cause a lot of hormone disruption. If you look at all of are just get 100% aloe vera. Like that's the only ingredient, it's hydrating. Your skin like really simple, you can grab it at a drugstore. So if you're ever in a pinch, that's amazing. In addition to ingredients are there certain, like, Foods, I know that some time working out can add to breakouts but also
like bounds with everything. Are there other things that can lead to breakouts that are Lifestyle-related. Yeah, the first thing we tell people to do is check all their ingredients for pore clogging. Ingredients, that is number one. Again, hair conditioner is a really big one too, so if you're breaking out on your back, on your sleep side, that's a hair conditioner. We hope you'll check their supplement. So supplements like vitamin D,
zinc and B12, in all in excess. So again, doubles in the dosage here, these are all great supplements for you but in excess, they'll triggers testosterone and cause a hormone disruption, which will then cause for most Total acne. The fourth one, which is very tricky and sneaky. One is biotin because you'll see it in Hair Skin and Nails supplement and girls will want to take it to make their hair grow, to make their nails longer and stronger, but it actually
triggers acne. And so that's going to be a big one too. If you are struggling with breakouts at all, make sure you are not taking any supplements with biotin in it. Okay? Interesting. And then, when people are struggling with acne from a hormonal perspective, you kind of touched on that there. Is that something that A lot of
the times is genetic. There's not much you can do, or do you find that it's more lifestyle based based on what supplements, they're taking and, and that kind of stuff. So, that's a great question. So acne is genetic like at its core. It's a genetic predisposition and it runs in families and basically our pores make more keratin protein than some other people who just don't break out.
It also our pores get clogged really easily because we're just, like, constantly producing like extra skin cells and it they don't really like shed as As well as they could. So we get clogged more easily, right? So, anyone who gets acne, has that genetic trait to some degree, then there's environmental triggers that can
make it better, or worse, right? So, like Kaylee said, the biotin will make it way worse because it's making you produced, even more of that skin protein and clogging our pores even more. And then there's other supplements that people take that, you know, seem healthy and they could be in some dosages. But if we take too much, it can mess with our hormones, some vitamins that mess with our hormones. Is, if we take That's our B12 and then zinc.
And then too much vitamin D. Now, all three of those can kind of spike dosterone in excess and testosterone is that, you know, essentially, the male hormone if you want to call it that. But that's the one that causes the most acne breakouts. Like that's why we break out during PMS is because our testosterones a little bit higher. So, for someone who's taking a bunch of vitamins, it's a really good rule of thumb to just not take anything that's like over.
Eighty percent of your recommended daily value. Okay? Okay. And you'll find this information on the back of the bottle. So, for anyone, that doesn't know where to find it. So, if you turn over the back, where the ingredient deck is, it'll have like percentage of our DV that stands for recommended daily value. Okay, interesting. And then Kaylee, you mentioned that eggs were a big culprit for you. Are there any other foods that are really can lead to breakouts?
Obviously everything's in moderation, but if there are certain things people like, oh my gosh, that's my favorite food. I eat it 12 times a day and you're like, actually, that's Only causing all your breakouts. What are those Dairy is a huge one. That's the number one food that's going to trigger acne and dairy is not just milk. Dairy is very sneaky and a lot
of things. So people are like, oh well, I don't really drink a glass of milk, like I'm not really eating dairy, of course, dairies cheese as well.
So even a little amount sprinkled on your salad sprinkled on your rap here, and there it all builds up, so keeping in mind of that but the sneaky places where it hides whey protein is a A huge acne trigger that you'll get the really aggressive cystic acne from and that's found obviously whey protein powder and sometimes it's Sneaky in protein powders, it's like mixed with other things.
Sometimes certain smoothie shops that you go to, you have to ask for a plant-based protein because if it's not a plant-based one, its way. And so they could be sneaking. Like what you think? You know, you get a workout in your Governor smoothie at college or at your high school, it could be made with whey protein. And so it's really important to ask what type of protein that Using to avoid that, you'll also see it in different like nutrition on-the-go bars. I know all the time in college.
I was always like, grabbing bars, like in between classes or before, going out for the evening, or you name it. You'll see it as like whey protein isolate, you'll see milk protein powder, milk powder, whey powder, like, you'll see a lot of different variations of it. And so definitely, checking the ingredients of what you're eating, but it's hidden in protein powders.
Protein, drinks, protein bars, even You don't think it's a protein bar, it'll always check the ingredient deck just in case because companies are adding more and more ingredients into their foods. And so that's a big one. The third one is hydrogenated and inflammatory oil. So this is the canola oil, vegetable oil, soybean oil, corn oil, peanut oil, those ones, those are highly, highly
inflammatory. Again, those are also snuck into a lot of processed foods, process, bars, different Ranks, things like that. And so keeping an eye out for those ones. Oh, no, a lot of college students, listening to this, don't really want to hear this, but caffeine is and it's caffeine and excess. So, if you're sticking to like a cup of coffee a day, you're grabbing your Starbucks. And we're talking about like cleaner Starbucks, the Frappuccinos and battles, those
are going to trigger act. These so much sugars, so much Dairy, like so much in that. Even like the almond milk at Starbucks has like an insane amount of sugar which is going to trigger acne. But if you're grabbing your coffee with, like, You know, a splash of an almond milk, something like that or just a black coffee and iced coffee. That's fine, one a day. But when you're getting two, three cut, like I just I think back to how much coffee I drank in college. I'm like, oh my gosh.
So coffee. And Xs for all the college students listing is going to be a huge aggravator of acne as well. Okay, this week's episode is sponsored by teen counseling therapy is an amazing tool to have in your tool kit. If you are struggling with self-esteem confidence and mental health, like we talked about in this episode And teen counseling is a great way to find a therapist. It's an online Therapy Program with over 14,000 licensed therapist in their Network.
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We talked about how hormonal acne I wanted to ask you guys if your recommendations for treatment are different based on the different types of acne and if it's helpful to know, what type of acne you have to treat it or they really all in the same with your recommendations for how to care for that. Great questions. If you have cystic acne in your keratin production is like really really, really strong. That means you're more likely to get cystic acne versus just like
the smaller ones, right? So some people are just way more acne prone because of their skins keratin production process they can get cystic acne from the same thing that caused only minor acne and someone else that said cystic acne is the And that can scar you the worst and it can be linked more often to something internal that's going wrong.
Like say something with the liver or something with digestion, something that's bothering like your lymphatic detox system, is more likely to create cystic acne and you will be able to tell if it's more of an internal cystic acne versus like from a product, because it'll have really specific patterns like cystic acne that's coming from something in your diet, like, say, it's gluten It's going to look different on your. It won't be all over your face.
It'll just be really hard core in your cheeks. I have, it'll have, like, where do I put my bronzer almost, like, couldn't your bronzer, check your ingredients. I said I will do that. Like, if you're getting really bad cystic acne on just like, really distinct parts of your body and it doesn't seem to make sense. It could be tied to your lymphatic system, which is a sign. There's something else going on
internally. But if you, you're just acne-prone everywhere, it's all over your face and equal parts, and some of its cystic, some of, it's not, whatever. That's probably from a product, probably from something that's going all over. So, in that case, we do for every one, we recommend checking your ingredients first and foremost, that is key. Before you make any other changes or buy anything new, you don't want to be changing things if you don't know what the original problem was, right.
Hmm. So that's number one for everyone. And then exfoliation is really important, so using a light physical scrub, you know, at least a few times a week followed by a mandelic acid or something to dissolve the clogs and dissolve. The bacteria is going to be really important, no matter what type of acne you have. And then thus the best treatment for cystic acne is going to be ice packing.
That's something you can do immediately throughout the day and it won't harm the skin and it will help it really calm down. So I was packing is like the number one trick for cystic acne. Okay? And then you mentioned like cheek breakouts. You see those charts online on Tech talk where it's like if you're breaking out in your nose, it's like this issue. If it's your forehead, it's a gut issue. Etc. Is there truth to that or is it a lot more complicated and it's
not as direct of a correlation. I think those charts are very misleading. Some of them are. You can't just point to your nose and say that something going on in the body. That's kind of ridiculous. The stress related to a very specific test. You're having that's the only reason, right? It's just too on organic chemistry test. We solved it yet because those charts don't take into account products. Yeah. Yeah, they're right there. They're missing the boat on like 80% of it. Right?
So I don't find them because they are so incomplete. I determine that they are inaccurate to be honest. I said it can get you. Get you thinking and so your lymphatic system runs all through your body. But in your face, it really presents on the cheeks. It starts in the temples and it goes down to the cheeks. So if that's the only area that is really breaking out and like, your foreheads totally fine. Then that is a sign that there's
something going on internally. And from there, you want to get some I worked on you don't just want to be guessing and be like oh my God, I have a bulk but gall bladder issue. Like you don't know until you run Labs, right? So that's when you get was like a functional medicine person or a like a naturopath or even an acupuncturist.
Like those people that have more of an Eastern medicine focused, they're going to look for things like liver and digestion and possibly got Health where most of these issues stem from versus a traditional dermatologist he's not going to look at any of that. Yeah, yeah. And to give an example for everyone who's listening. So the face mapping, you know, says, liver right here, right? Okay. Well, that doesn't mean that your quote, liver is out of whack and your liver is failing.
The liver is in charge of filtering out, excess hormones. And so, when you have an override of either, estrogen and progesterone, whatever that is your livers in charge of filtering, it filtering it. So if your liver is just a little sluggish and the hormones aren't getting filtered out correctly. Yes, it's a correlation to your liver Add one more thing on to that, what if you're taking too much vitamin D and it's throwing off more moans, which is then
connected to the liver. See it goes like all the way back. Like, okay, Lipper, but what's the root cause livers link to hormones excess? Supplementation of vitamin D, zinc and b12. All house hormone disruption, there's always that like, lifestyle root cause that you can fix if there were like three practices that people could Implement throughout their day, whether it's like, I don't know, drinking enough If water or washing their face a certain number of times.
We talk about ice packing that you would just like, this is a great place to start. We wish everyone was doing this to care for their skin. What would those be? Exfoliating would be definitely in that way. So I believe in is how you control your skits Behavior, whether you're talking about acne or anti-aging, definitely. Everyone needs a really good, really good. Gentle cleanser like that is something that every single human being needs and then how and when you exfoliate is really
important. So, Like to use a therapeutic blend of both physical and chemical exfoliant. So that's why our kit has both a scrub and Amanda like gases, they work beautifully together. Think of it, like, weights and cardio. They're, they're different. But they go together and they get you the result that you want and then a really good. The other things. Everyone needs is a mineral based sunscreen and an acne safe
moisturizer. Okay. Yeah those are those are all huge and very easy to build into your routine. It's like once twice a day, you're already getting up in the morning and getting ready for bed to build. Those that practice of using those products is something that's a small shift, but has huge results and to go kind of in the opposite direction and
debunk, some skincare beauty. Trends that we're seeing blowing up especially on Tick-Tock. I'd love to hear your guys thoughts the first one which we talked about on our intro call is something called Baby Botox which up until Tick Tock. I had never heard of and then I was getting all these like 19, 20 21 year olds getting botox for like prevention and the the saying really is like okay, start young, stay young it Preventative. It's preventing wrinkles from
appearing. What are your guys thoughts? Their of people getting Botox? Starting like early 20s, this makes me so sad of like the education that's being put out there because of to talk and like scaring people into aging. So just to, I always think knowledge is power so to understand what Botox is doing and then you can make the decision for yourself. So Botox is a muscle relaxer so you inject it in it, relaxes the muscles.
So it's causing you to not. Not make as many facial expressions which people will tell you, is quote leading to wrinkles now, think about it, this way. If anyone listening has ever been injured, like you had a surgery or something where you have to, or in a cast, you, let's say you have a cast on your arm, okay? When you get that cast taken off because you haven't been able to use that muscle, what is it? It's so atrophied, it's sagging.
It's like it doesn't look tight and lean and like how it would look if you were doing some way. So the same thing with your face, it's like there. If you look at you know asking muscular skeleton, you'll see there's muscles all behind your skin on your face. And if you're not activating those muscles over time, they are going to start sagging.
So if you're constantly injecting it with a muscle relaxer just like putting your arm in a cast, you got those muscles are going to Sag over time and then you're going to need you. No facelifts and fillers and all these additional things to reform your face because you've
lost the muscle tension. So really the best way to keep your skin like really smooth in young, is we already talked about exfoliation increasing cell turnover, getting rid of those dead skin cells, activating collagen, using products with stem cells in it. Like we have our bounce back in cell, renew serum that's going to help increase the collagen and bounce and vibrancy in your skin. But also there's different really fun, facial exercises
that you can do that. Helped us tighten tighten the face and that's going to work out those muscles the same way you would work. Out your arms, your legs to keep like a tight lean look. And that's what's going to help your skin more than Botox. Gotcha. The next thing that has been all over my floor. You page at least as slugging, and it's something that's always made me a little bit apprehensive because someone, someone that's acne-prone, whenever someone recommends like
an oil, I'm like, I don't know. Oily skin is, what got me into this. Like I'm not sure and like, Aquaphor petroleum. Jelly isn't necessarily all, but you do get that like oily, look, it's extreme amounts of product on your skin. What are your guys is? Thoughts. There is it is it good for acne? Or is it like run in the opposite direction? Do not do that. It's funny. This one's counterintuitive but Aquaphor is actually active. Okay, it's so thick that it can't go into your poor almost
think of it like that, right? So with the way you would use that as if your barrier is compromised in your really really dry, that's a problem in and of itself. So you can use Aqua for you know it's called slugging you put it on at night but only at night because if It on during the day and you sweat your Spike and get up, you're gonna call yourself.
So you would put it on at night, over your moisturizer, just to steal your moisturizer in. It's not something you put on bare skin all the time as your moisturizer because it's the wrong pH, and it won't let your skin breathe. And it's just not, it doesn't take the place of a moisturizer, it can just feel in your moisturizer.
So yeah, that it is safe to do. It's fine if you do break out especially if you're if you're breaking out and you are getting treatments and your maybe peeling a little bit, it can be really uncomfortable. So using that trick can be helpful. Sometimes when I have a break out that's like starting to scab over all, definitely do a bit of Aquaphor audit. Do you recommend doing that like the entire time? Like, if you have a breakout come up, put aquifer on it or just towards the end.
Well it's only meant to restore moisture to the skin. It doesn't help with like active acne for so for your scab, it would be fine, but for an active breakout, you're better off ice packing, it a bunch. Okay. Get to calm down. Okay, and then similarly, I feel like I either see like there's one catch Of people that's like
dry out the pimple. You have like the Mario badescu, literally like liquid alcohol, putting that on the pimple and then you have some people that I get are, like, Aquaphor. Moisturized that acne, is from a lack of moisture in the skin. What is your advice there? Do you want to dry? It dry out breakouts or you wanting to restore moisture so that they can heal you want your skin to be moisturized, but an active simple. It does generally help to dry it out. Sometimes it can backfire.
But if you have like a whitehead where there's like pasta in there, yeah, drying it out. It's going to be helpful, okay? And that's exactly why we created our clearity, serum. So that is known as the black head dissolver, but it's going to it's gonna be a little more drying because it is an exfoliant Excellence are naturally. That's not a moisturizer, right? But what that's why we've created like, that's why our clear kid exists, because you exfoliate and then you moisturize after.
So you're getting both in. So you're exfoliating your putting the clarity serum on your letting it sit for about 10 minutes so it can do its work. Eat away at what's inside your poor and No, once that's done after about 10 minutes, you still leave it on but then you apply moisturizer after that, to hydrate the area. Nourish, it fill it with calming ingredients, okay? Hydrocolloid like hydr, yeah.
Those bandages I see people smother them on their entire face, leave them on overnight and then like peel them off and there is like the oil patch is from where the acne was just that work is it just like a total bad pie have seen that? It's Very new, I haven't tried it yet. Okay, Jordan, what that would do? I mean, that's essentially like a really gnarly pore strip, just enhanced what that would do for someone. It's more fun than it is a long-term solution.
Yeah. So it would be like, just taking off all the oil, that's their, well, guess what? Your body's going to replace that oil in two days, so it's not a long-term solution is just more fun for videos. A clay mask would be a more reliable long-term solution that does something Sperry similar. Okay, we are wanting to remove oil for skin because oils are natural Skin Barrier. That's how it's protecting our skin hydrating.
It we need that. And so when you're doing too many things to cut oil, you're starting to disrupt the natural state of your skin. And a lot of times people are oily because actually their skin is dry and it's over producing oil, that's not always the case but a majority of the time it is Euler's over producing oil because they're not moisturizing correctly, not you, that's going to hide.
I'd rate it, so it's not able to balance same way like a hormone imbalance occurs like an oil about oil imbalance occurs, okay. And then the last one I've seen on Tech, talk is at home like high-frequency the little zapping machines. What are your thoughts? There is it a solution. Should we all be buying this on Amazon or you guys like, no, no. Go to your facialist actually be really useful. You were just doing it like a spot treatment and we do a couple times a day.
If you overdo it, you can burn your skin, okay? It's all about following directions with that one, but they are useful. Yeah. My cart, make sure you using one of those like soft bandage Nets in between it like, put it over so it's not directly on your skin. That's really good. Then you can avoid the burning like Danielle saying. Okay. Awesome.
So advice for teenagers, if you could give a couple of tricks for people who are really like in the heat of it right now, they're like this has been going on for months years, etcetera. It feels like I've tried everything. What are what is your advice? Is it just stick with it? Stick to a routine. Try a different things, talk to a facialist or homeopathic doctor. What is Your what is your advice to just run this out? I would suggest that they find that.
So, there are some acne, especially Pappy facialists that specialize in this and that are pretty darn good. Everyone's very different, but like, they'll know more than the average, facial person, but they're called, it's called face reality. And you can find an esthetician ask in person who actually is certified in that. That's, that was my original certification back in the day. So it it is very useful and you can learn a lot and they have
really good treatment. Calls for acne prone skin. So it's a start there that person is going to be able to guide you on your diet your vitamins and a really good way. But also just reading all the information on our website is going to be very helpful and very intense that you can immediately Implement. Okay, awesome. That will all be linked in the show notes so people can
reference that. And then the last thing that I wanted to ask, we talked a lot about targeting acne causes routines Etc when people want to conceal and they're like, have an event or they feel more comfortable if they're concealing before they go to school or to an event. What is your guys's favorite products that you guys use when you have a breakout when you're struggling and you don't want to add to the pore clogging. But you also want to be able to
cover up in the short term. So the first thing like Danielle mentioned before is ice packing hundred percent. If you're getting ready to go out for the night, going to event go on a date. Whatever it is ice pack, it that'll help down the bring down the inflammation.
The redness if you purchase any of our products, this cell renewal Serum is really good for cause of effort calming down inflammation and redness as Well, any pigmentation left over and then as far as concealer we absolutely love the brand. Priya it smelled PRI Ila. And their concealer is actually so good for your skin. You can wear it to bed and so yeah it's filled with combing. Call me ingredients like zinc and green tea and its actually like nourishing that breakout.
So not only are you concealing it, but you're putting a nice little coating over top of really nourishing ingredients. So Priya is going to be Your best friend and concealer for for those summer. Break outs. Okay, awesome. Well if people want to buy the clear stamp products, if they want to continue to keep up with your guys's content, where can they find you? You can find us at Clear, stem skin, care.com and then on Instagram and Tick-Tock it's clear.
Stem skin care. If we're point you in any direction, if you're currently brachii, currently breaking out, we recommend starting with the clear kit, it's only for products. It's a really simple but insanely effective routine for During acne, but also giving you really bright glowy fresh skin. So you're not working on your acne and feeling like you're ripping apart your face.
It's truly feeling your acne while nourishing your skin and minimizing wrinkles because when it keep you off the baby Botox, but yeah, your skin looking good. So that's like the perfect mix is our entire line is anti-aging and anti acne and non-toxic all the same time. I love it. And you guys have a code for this. You persisted audience if they want to get the clear kit and start, Art, improving the routine while avoiding pore clogging ingredients, if you
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So you guys can see what the trend is. And then Kaylee and Daniel slots. Awesome. Well, thank you guys so much for doing this. I know it's going to help so many people and having struggled with acne for such a long time. I'm so glad we got to do this, and I have my to do is going to do more exfoliating going to buy a little zapper but not burn myself. So I'm really excited to implement all the stuff myself as well. Amazing. Thanks for having us.
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