Thinking Sideways: Oct282011.com

I'm Devin, I'm joined by and Steve, and I'm ready to disappoint the heck out of you, guys because this is coming out just for our Halloween. And guess what we didn't do? We kind of got lazy. Yeah, well, listen as it is this. I really don't think that we should be covering this mystery today because technically this mystery but on the day it comes out, will not quite be five years old. Your day shy with this one? All right? Canceled? Canceled podcast O alright by credits. Okay,

just kidding. Realistically, the beginning of this mystery started more than five years ago, true, started like August, right, you know what for mysteries, I like them. Sometimes I'll fudge it. You know you're fudginged by a day, I'll give it to you. Okay, thanks the mystery. If you are not familiar, we're going to talk about is um called oct two thousand eleven dot com in other words October dot com. Well, everybody assumes that the oct means October, but it could

mean Octal. Yeah. Yeah, I tried to actually translated to two oh one one into octal and I got a different number, of course, um, but it didn't have any meaning to it, so damn it. I was disappointed. Than Luckily it didn't take me more than three seconds. That's said. This is not a listeners suggestion. Actually I discovered it by my own dang self. No, it's crazy. I didn't know that we were able to do that anything, you know,

I know it's like freedom at last. Uh. And I do want to give a shout out to William of Williams Thing. I'm sorry at Williams Thing. He wanted me to say his Twitter. Um, he's a YouTuber that posted pretty much the video that you'll see about this whole mystery, and he was able to provide me with his source videos that he didn't create, but that he sampled for his video, So thanks to William and another shout out

to my cousin who's like an all around genius. And I spent a lot of time texting saying like, hey, can you explain this quantum thing to me real quick? And he would just like fire right back with an answer. So that was super helpful for me because we're going to talk about some cloth and stuff in a little bit. Really, yeah, was he doing that because he actually owes you money and this was his way to get out of the dead. Yeah,

he was trying. It's not working. Coming for the legs a lot of type and really yeah, and okay, and then as a final thing before we jump into this, it's just as a little disclaimer, we're going to be talking about a website or lots of websites, which means we're going to be sitting in our studio. Yeah, but we're gonna be looking at sites and pages and stuff, and we're going to because we have a Steve Um, we're going to provide on our website PDFs of all

of the stuff we're talking about. So if you're at home or at work in a lacks work environment and you're able to follow along, that's great. If this is one of those mysteries like the Lake City Quiet Pills where you're just like if I if I can't see it, I'm done, then maybe skip this one or put it off until later. But it's gonna be comp yeah. There. The documents are huge. Now there's lots of pages. Yeah, there's like sixty seven in one of them. Yeah, we're

just going to combine them all. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot. Sorry. As a final disclaimer, my goal for this episode is a little different than we usually do. Um. It's gonna be like a primer for this whole mystery, right, but it's really huge and there's so much content that really needs to be looked at to be discussed that I'm going to encourage people to discuss with us me um online, you know, be at Twitter, which is probably not ideal.

I think Reddit or Facebook is probably the most ideal of Yeah, um, so reach out to us on social media once you've listened to this episode if it's interesting to you, um, take a look at the PDFs. I want this to kind of be interactive by the end of it. So just also as a disclaimer, because that's kind of what this case needs. Okay, hasn't. It hasn't no, um, but I think it's really interesting. I think, you know, people on the internet just stopped caring things after five years,

so hopefully this will kind of pick things. Yeah. Well in the Lake City quiet pills thing has just kind of picked up a little bit in recent weeks, so hopefully this will help that. Okay, ready, okay, so now twenty minutes later, we're ready for a quick overview or five or whatever. According to who is, the website oct two thousand eleven, dot com was registered through one and

one dot com on August seventh, two thou eleven. According to the same who is, the site was updated as recently as September twenty eight of this year um, and the domain doesn't expire until next August August two seventeen. But the owner of this domain is utilizing what's called the domain parking service, which is UM. You know, when you go to a website and it's just like a bunch of links for ads. It's just like a white

page with links. That's what a domain parking services. So they're trying to gain revenue through like ad clicks basically, but it also is a really good way to just like keep the domain and let it expire, but also get a little money from it. So that's what the site looks like right now. But lucky for us, the way back Machine exists. Um, and you will see some places that the site doesn't unlock, doesn't allow quote unquote crawlers,

like the way Back Archive. But if that is the case, that's um, the the coding is wrong, because we've got we we saw it, we saw all of it. I had read somewhere that somebody was saying that, and then I'd also seen somebody say, well, apparently because they took the site down and they're using it as a parking that the robot t x T file that stopped the crawlers from being able to pull it was defunct. But that doesn't make sense because otherwise the way back Machine

shouldn't have been able to record anything. I would think, well, it would make sense if they like implemented it before they implement when they decided to stop maintaining the site but hadn't moved to the main parking thing yet, if at that point they put the anti crawler text in to the htmail, so that would have prevented any new things from being snapped um and then once they went to the domain parking, it went away. There are some

of the sites you may have noticed. Some of them do have that text in it because you try to view it on the way back machine and it doesn't allow you to basically, so some of them do have that. You get it's there. It's a ghost message. It says this page exists, but it doesn't allow crawlers, so we're redirecting you to something else. Um. But the majority of the pages that are connected to this website don't have that. We were able to see it, which is great. Yeah

for real. Also, the thing you will notice when you pull these up on the way back machine is there's a lot of broken image links. But as I said, lucky for us, we have a Steve, and it turns out Steve is insane actually find those images almost all. I found almost everything. Yeah. So it took me all weekend,

but I found almost everything. Yeah. So I'm gonna encourage you guys to really go look at the pdf UM and if you don't want to do that, you can look at the site, but you know you will see broken images and the images are kind of some of the most interesting stuff in this a little bit. When it was active. Dot com was pretty much a huge mystery.

Even when it was active. There's um a huge labyrinth of pages, many of which have messages hidden in the HTML code UM, which aren't even the weirdest part of some of the messages that are happening on this site, and the pages the same page would change on a regular basis, like daily completely changed, not just a little bit of text, but totally overhaul. Yeah, there's also a phone number attached to this website that was posted at one time. I haven't seen the page that it was

posted on. I've just seen the phone number, UM, and people when they call that say it you know, it rings four times and then somebody answers it doesn't it just like gets picked up and it's breathing, and then it's like a loud beep. The only place is what I got when I call it. Sorry, The only place I ever saw the phone number was actually in the HTML. That's the only place that I ever saw it listed. That's the only place I ever sawt listed too, So

I presume that's the only place it was. But yeah, also that, yeah, I should be really clear that with only one exception all any of the theories out there, UM don't suggest that this is really a malicious website. So we're not talking like a Lake City quiet pill situation. We're not talking about like killing and anything like that. It's really just yes, it is totally the opposite. It's just kind of weird. And the person who created this website is most often referred to as Open, So we're

just going to call this person open. There's no like hint at gender pronouns or anything like that, so we're literally just going to call this person open. So if I start saying open a lot and aside tense, it's because I'm trying to avoid gender pronouns. It's a name.

It's a name. It's a handle. It's a handle. If you have to handle, call open like it they Yeah, Open created this website, the one that started on Yeah, and it was active until about April UM kind of and the website is almost impossible to explain in broad strokes. I would if I were to try, I would say it's a lot of about consciousness and some poor man's quantum physics and some pretty simple cipher codes. I would say, yeah, add in their awareness and lucid dreaming, and then you

have that's that's it. There's the broad strokes and then that talks about you know, the new golden nature humanity and you know, all this stuff and for me to get an aliens okay, well actually turn in there. Although I did find a related site that has aliens. Yeah, I know you did those. Um. One of the most odd things to me is that there's a wiki attached to the page that's dedicated to like a solving community.

I'm not quite clear how this came about, if Open created this or like what, so I I have two thoughts on that. I think that either Open created it because Open put a call for questions out very early on and then each email code by giving the email at hinting at the email address, which people figured out. And either Open was building the wiki based on things that people were writing and sending in, or possibly created a user portal side because if because there's a bunch

of spam in this website. Ye, tons of spam, which makes me think that if they if they created an user poor, they didn't secure it very well. Yeah, because there's just tons of you know, regrow your hair and that kind of weird ads in all of this stuff that's in there. Well, there's a wiki and then there's all kinds of user comments stuff, and that's where I got the idea that it might have been a portal, which is how it was created with the user comment stuff.

Are you talking about Record? No? Okay, no, no, I'm not talking about Awakening or Record. I'm talking about the actual wiki. And you, I don't know if you remember, in some of the captures I sent over, there's like weird text about you know, in New York, blah blah blah. It's like, what the hell is this? I think it's a hacked user portal. Yeah. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if Open were the person who were running this wiki. I also wouldn't be surprised if it was someone else.

Just the way it's written, it doesn't actually sound like it's open. It doesn't um But because of this kind of interactive component of the website, a lot of people have speculated this is just an a r G. But we will get to that in a little bit. So, guests, we'll start from the like landing homepage when you type in octyn dot com. And by the way, for everybody, I know, if you haven't figured it out, it's act as the alphabet character. It's O C T to eight

dot com. So I'm going to call that the homepage landing page, UM, and I think we'll start from there. Well, and there's two pretty distinct eras for me in this there's like the pre October two thousand and eleven actually like in in time, and then post because things get really really weird after um. And then again, just to remind everybody if you missed it in the beginning, we're about to talk about things that we're looking at in

the studios. So we'll try really hard not to just talk to that, but it will be helpful if you have visuals, so please bear with us. Okay, guys, right, okay, alright, So if you visited the site on like August eleven, for instance, you'd be greeted by a black screen with two images at the top and the text below. If you can't have patients for this, you won't be able to for that all. But who knows. Yeah, that's a

little weird. Yeah, So the image links here are broken, and when you dig into the HTML code, because again we have a Steve, you find that it was originally from a website called Project pixels dot com backslash. That that web address that's listed there, that's the source for what is being displayed on dot com on this one. On this one, it's one time that we have this screen. So okay, so then you're right, I'm sorry, that's my bad. So then the sorry totally treat me up there. I'm sorry.

So you can go to then Project pixels dot com slash and it's the same page. Yeah, and that Steve the h in the upper left hand core, there's a comment there's that was put there by the way back machine and not by you, right. Uh oh you mean the big black bold text. Yeah, yeah, that totally was No, that was I wrote all over these we did also in this page before we get too far into Project pixels. Um, there's a hidden you y ou inside of brackets. Yeah,

the and the it's usually square brackets, um that are used. Um, but it's just interesting it's there. I think it's on most of the pages, to be honest with you, I think it's hidden within most of the pages. The hidden where is New York? Am I not seeing it because it's hidden? Yeah? Yeah, Actually it wasn't on this particular page that we're looking at, Joe. And it's always a situation where it's a black screen and the text for

bracket you bracket is in black. So that's why you don't see it until you do something like this one where we have the code view loaded and you and it doesn't happen to be on this one. But the word is there, actually, Devin, if you go down, I think we can see it actually in the HTML. No, because it's this is yeah, this is the reference page. We'll look at that again because, like I said, it's in most of them. Uh okay. Hopping over for a

quick second to Project pixels dot com. You may be thinking that project pixels dot com is just a website from which you can get free images or free pixels or free pixels. Would be wrong, Actually, you would be dead wrong. On its first capture in October of two thousand five, yes, it literally was a place to buy pixels, not images, pixels. And I say that because it was literally just a gray screen that you could buy a certain number of pixels and put your ad space there

or logo or something. I should be clearer than that. Um, this is two thousand five and it's like pixel art. It's not. There's no pretty logo stuff. It's all like neon color with like a shape, like a circle. That was the graphic design pixels. By the way, pixels were a lot bigger in those days. They were actually um. Then the site. The site gets a little weird um

somewhere between January two thousand six. In January two thou six, those are like the too closest screenshots you can get in two thousand and six, and this is your siting those dates based on what is available in the main YEP. The site is replaced by a blog post called quote

million dollar Homepage colon busted unquote. I wanted to admit this, but Steve has argued his case that this is important, and I realized now it is because I missed a bit that didn't miss and then didn't call me on earlier. So cool. The owner of Project Pixels claims to have had the idea for the million dollar homepage before I should clarify. The million dollar homepage was a thing where it was just like Project pixels, where it was just

this gray screen except for the person. It was a million pixels this homepage, and they sold it a pixel or a dollar for each pixel, and they sold them in block and they sold them in blocks. I mean it was you were required to only by the one pixel, but they sold them in blocks. So I thought they sold them in blocks of one. Maybe I don't remember. It's been so long. I moved on from that bit. Yeah, they actually sell well, million dollar homepage sold all million

of them. Yeah, so this person became a millionaire. But um, the owner of Project Pixels claims to have had the idea first and been selling the pixels on eBay maybe or had a Wikipedia page that the person who had the successful project of million dollar homepage, uh, stole the idea. I guess it's all kind of yeah, it's kind of not there's not really a great coherent stream of thought in this blog post. You should go look at it.

It's really interesting anyway. I call it ranting. It is ranting, Yeah, but it's kind of a good insight. I guess you should go check out million dollar Homepage. It still exists. Yeah, it's a part of hystoric. You cannot because they sold all millions. Um, but it's really really fun for those of you younger listeners who have no idea what the internet used to look like just go used to that's literally what every flashing everywhere. Yeah, so there's our little

like jaunt over to Project pixels. Well, but Project pixels then changed. It did around the time that our website showed up eleven. It changed to this homepage called the Human Project. It's still pixel project or project pixels dot com. But then it became this little landing page that said the Human Project. And it's like a little logo kind

of thing. I guess, three people looking at an easel with an abstract painting on it, and then it just says coming soon, and below it it says, uh, Project pixels comma not owned by David Gooden, not taking your money. Dot dot try again. Just can't let it go. Can't let it go. So that's um August eleven. On October through we are we're not actually gonna through every page. But um, the next day, the homepage on dot com looks totally different. Okay, so it is now a blue background,

dark blue but still bloom. And there's four five images that are linked. The links are broken. Like I said, we have a Steve, so we actually have all those If you go out to the pdf, they're kind of posted on there. The first images of a skeleton key with like some white pixels around it, and then there's text underneath that that says it's not nine, don't be deceived, and I think that that's the key. I think it might have an equal sign. Yeah, it could be an

equal sign. I think I see pixels that go down, so it's like a rectangle. I actually swear I see text peeking above the white lines, like it's blocked out, and we're going to come across this in almost every image that we talked about kind of stuff, And for me, I guess like part of that is it's totally plausible

that there was like a watermark there. You know, it kind of looks like there was watermark their text and they just like took a on paint, I must paint, just like crossed it out with some Then the next image is of a patent image. Perhaps quality of the patent image. I mean, I don't know if it's like a successful patent or not, but it's yeah, but I've literally no idea what it's for. I swear I saw somewhere what that's supposed to be, but I cannot remember. Joe,

do you recognize that thing at all. Are you talking about the thing on his fingers or the thing that's on the table either. We don't know which is the main point here. Yeah, I I don't know either. I think the main point is, um, it's it's weird little thing that goes around your thumb and your forefinger. It's hinged to hold something and apparently I guess it's for getting a good grip on things. Maybe, um, I have no idea. Anyway, The next image is um hands drawn

hands holding flame. The next image is this woman who's going she's blacked out. It's insula and then there some weird like white stuff. It's like a sound wave kind of image. And yeah, and this is this is not the only version of that photo that's out there. That's the other weird thing. Yeah. And then what's interesting too about that photograph is that she is completely in silhouette and her hands in front of her face and actually

her thumb and three or four fingers are actually somewhat lit. Yeah, there's a lot of hand imagery in this page, there is, uh. And then the last one is this like really pixelated image of like a Renaissance painting. Steve claims to know what it is, but I don't know. I've seen it, and the problem is in the PDF. The version that I found originally didn't come through very well. But I found a much smaller version. It's actually cleaner. It's it's

a painting. There's angels on the left hand and the right hand side of this little rectangular image, and what kind of looks like a crown or maybe what do they call those hats that were kind of a steel cap with fur lined around them. Oh, hell, I don't remember. Crap, Yeah, it's something like it looks like something like that, not that the kind of crown you think of that's open on the top, the rness of dome shaped either that or it's the caxburg ufo one of the either of

those things. Yeah. And then below that there's um in black, so it's harder to see. There's that you with the priends. Do you see that, Joe? I do see it. And then underneath that it says who is c h k at symbol for greater than m Ari, which I think is an attempt at Leite speak, but it's what let speak. What is that let is like what like nerds and gamers use sometimes where you you substitute letters or numbers the shortest. No, it's not shorthand. It's like you use

a four for an A or three? Okay, yeah, that I don't get. Yeah, I don't know what the hell. Okay, there's a link on here. It leads to a four oh three page, um, which is and then it's not uncommon. It's not uncommon um at all. So there you go. And so what we're about to look at is actually their four or three page, because whoever made this sighte was skilled enough to have made a four or three

of their own. They've also have one that I saw that attempted to get redirected to for pages that were missing, that they called ghosts dot html. But I could never the ghost page. I don't it's not a page. Ghost page is the one that like that the way back machine is like, oh crap, I can't access this page.

So that has successful inside taller stuff on it. Okay, Okay, I just remember seeing both four or three and ghost And for those of us who may not know or those of you who may not know, um, you know, a four oh three pages just a page that no longer but just redirects to it from a dead link. Yeah, they just tell you if you've come there in error and there's nothing there anymore. Usually, usually it literally says like, oops, we can't find that link. This page does not say that. Um.

It's kind of a weird page. UM. Figure out. I understand that's a guy's head in the middle of there, but I'm trying to what's around the border there that's especially at the bottom. Yeah, I think it's abstract. Brother, I don't think it's supposed to be anything specific. So it says at the top of this page, it says protecting content, and then there's some numbers, and then there's

a link um. And then there's this thing that you'll see at the top of pages a lot that's a dot and then a square bracket and then four dots and then a close square bracket um. And then there's some like gibberish she stuff, and then and then it says time Universe but the R is red um. And then is this image that I was talking about that it looks like the silhouette of a man's head with like a black ink splash behind it. Maybe whoever made

this site loved two things in photo shop. They loved the drop shadow, and they loved the blur tool because this blur thing that's in this image that we're just looking at happens all the time and everything is drop shadow. Yeah. Well, when we get into the manuals, that's a lot of really shine in in this four oh three. There's actually some text hidden in the h gmail. There's a little message.

And I'm not going to make a habit of reading a lot of this stuff, um, but I do want to just give you if you happen to not be looking at these pages, UM, I want you to understand the crazy. So I'm hoping that one of you, two gentlemen will read or attempt to read this little bit of of joy here so that people don't have to just listen to me talk all the time. Okay, are

we ready left? Per ende? Single point uh dash greater than I'm making, meaning an arrow, no distinction, universe conditions Earth beginning that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus

that decision decision equals this moment closed, perenne. How could it ever be different comma from a single point expansion always the same outcome period. I'll take the second half of this just because that was well, good job, all right, I'm gonna start you equal period followed by about three quarters of a line of periods with one break in their left arrow dash dash dash you two blocks of periods infinite. You can choose schedule equal greater than making

an arrow. Know that you're thinking equal greater than life, open pairent inevitable clothes parent, equal greater than red open pairent create closed parent dash red one one one three, Underscore two to two six, Underscore three, three, three nine Underscore b B underscore underscore dot jpg unlocked two dot png, unlocked, mode dot jpg, unlocked left t r t y dot jpg, unlocked, forgotten dot jpg, unlocked, choice, dot PNG, unlocked, all underscore everything,

dot png, unlocked right arrow. Oh confused, anybody out there? No, not confused, man, This is just like all of my chat sessions when my cat is on the keyboard. Yeah. So, um, the are that's read universe is actually the link, and it takes you to this UM place called UM Record of Awakening dot com, which is UM some kind of blog platform sort of thing. And when you click it, there's a red header and it says the record, and then under it and a subheader it says find the

link and link is in UM square brackets. And then there's some posts here, uh that you should probably just read for yourself because it's really weird. The stream of consciousness is the only way that I can describe that. Yeah, and there are a lot of links on this website, but um most of them are broken or not archived, with the exception of one which links to website called twelve fourteen Productions dot com. Twelve fourteen Productions dot com or x I I x I V Productions dot com,

um or not dot com. Storry Productions is a website. You can still get to it today. It's like it's unchanged relatively and graphics are better, and that graphics are a little better. That's it. It is a pretty well designed website. It's got spaces. The background it says and del rivers is x I I x I V Productions, Music, Arts, Science and beyond Technology. Article summary Fellowship of talf t O t H. I say that's thought. That's what was sec Fellowship of THO. It's it's better than the Fellowship

of the Ring. Yeah, well Fellowship of Thought is is a little bit of an outlier there music all right, science Fellowship of So what's what is that? You might wonder, Well, we clicked on it. He's probably I think it's like light or something. No, actually, the Egyptian god of knowledge. Um, he's the one with the bird head, the one, one of the ones with the bird heads. Uh. And this you will notice if you look at the PDF, there's a little note from Steve that says this doesn't seem

cultish at all, because it doesn't at all. No, just kidding, yes it does. The conceptual platform is the exit strategy. The application forms were updated on this one August two thousand and sixteen, so like a month and a half ago, um, two months ago, it still exists. They're still apparently taking applications. Joe is looking at this website with a bit of like a disbelieving just just really I would look at all this stuff today and yeah, now these guys are correct,

but actually I don't think it exists. I think it's one guy and maybe maybe, but they're talking about what really scared me, what really got me going on. This is about compounds, about compounds, as in living compounds, like the Branch Davidians, you know, and all those guys in the Jonestown. Yeah. So it does seem kind of like a Prepper thing to me. Prepper with like minded people. I guess they are trying to create so called compounds,

presumably for the end of times or something such. There's one note at the bottom of that page that I will mention, and that is that It says the very bottom also please read forty two The Answer to the Ultimate Questions of Life, the Universe and Everything. And there's a link. Wait, isn't that a hitch Checker's guide thing? Well so you would think it's hitchicker guide thing, but no, Actually they've came up come up with forty two of their own tenants by which they should live and they exist.

You can follow the link. It's um interesting. One of the tenants things like don't litter, kind of don't run red lights, yeah, kind of wash behind your ears yeah, more like don't swear, don't have negative thoughts, yeah, sex or procreational only you know, stuff like that. Yeah, so that's an interesting thing that's linked to this too. I guess I don't know if it really is since it's part of the blog. Um, not the blog. Yeah, the blog. It's part of the like, yeah, the record, and you

heard us call it the record earlier. We're going to keep calling it the record, I think, I mean, the record is definitely part of And there's a couple of iterations of the record there are all right back to eleven dot com. Mmm, let's move forward a little bit to August thirtieth. This is when you get a landing page that looks completely different. It's white, it's got a red Hall esque circle up in the top left corner. Um, it's got this image that's represents the Schrodinger. I'm gonna

call it Schrodinger. I know it's Schrodinger. Um when you're injured, it's what it says on that injury. Well, you know, somebody al says an email, correct us, the Strogan is your cat paradox. This image it's directly from Wikipedia. So there's like no question in my mind that that's what that's meant to represent. The rest of the imagery is not from Wikipedia correct, like the broken broken lab it is lab glasses that this image is. This image is

on wiki. There's an updated version somebody has done, but it is essentially the same. And then there's a nicer looking cat that's really and then there's a broken image below that. Oh that one, now you forget it. And then there's some text. It says, when I'm scared and you're close, I feel blank. It's hard to feel blank nowadays. Can you find where to be blank? Question mark? Wait there and you'll be blank. And then the dot square

print dot dot dot. Can we just start referring to that as the period signature period signature because that period signature is all over the place. Yeah, And then below that it says, um, things are never initially accepted. However, there's plenty of time give up if you must. That's what history has taught you. If you're losing, track back on the trains. And then a huge number and then um,

love in parentheses behind that number. And I always trying to figure out if the love was like a tennis reference. And by the way, obviously, oh yeah, it's a good point, but the obviously that was sort of a fill in, like a villain the blanks in the sense, and I think the word you're supposed to use as drunk, well correctly, that is actually um. And so this is the first time that we kind of see the interactive quality of

the puzzle. For Yeah, so below the numbers and love um, there's an image of island with some clouds over it. I have no idea what in this guy. There's some code. Briefly before we talk about the film of blanks Um, there's this little bit of code. It's a little JavaScript guy, and it's my understanding that basically what it's saying is, hey, calculate based on the based on the epic um, which is a date that you give right, um, calculate how

many seconds from now until then, or milliseconds. Calculate how many milliseconds from now until then, And obviously the epic was October eleven. However, I've done the math based on the screen captures, and I know it doesn't work. It doesn't work. So I don't know if that's just like a because the way back machine is kind of wonky, or like what. I actually don't what I could never figure out later on in the site, it's very obvious that the numbers are changing in these white screen pages.

They seemed like they were more of a written text, because I would expect that after the epic code and its end script, then everything else is written with the word love affort. I presumed, and I could be wrong. This is a presumption on my part that that was a written number, as in they wrote it on it. I see what you're saying. Yeah, I didn't notice that before, to be honest with you, So yeah, I don't know what that number. Yeah, I have no idea. So what

what data we on right now? How many how many people are visiting this website by not by this time on that day, you know, actually there it was starting to get some decent not that though, I could just six days up. Well, no, I remember, no, this is what this came up. The site was created, like on the eleventh of August. We've been around a couple of weeks. But I seem to remember forum posts that maybe all

the foreign posts were after. I just remember that people were on this page or on this site all the time. But I might be thinking too far into the future from where we are. I think you are, So okay, let's quickly because you were thinking maybe that's a counter. Well, no, I wasn't thinking that was a counter of this, because that would be a fantastic it's not. I don't think it was that. It could be any thinking. It could be a code, that could be god knows. Yeah, but actually,

let's return a little bit to the film the blanks above. UM, and you will see that I mentioned this little like how red orb up in the corner here, and uh, this ORB turns green at some point it's replaced with a green one. Actually doesn't turn green, is replaced with a green one. It looks it looks like a light essentially. It does like a little like a little light indicator, not a light bowl. Yeah, and it seems okay. So the word that you fill into the blank there is safe.

It's safe or free depending on apparently when users gas and don't. I don't totally understand how users were guessing. I think it was on the record people were guessing saying like, hey, open is it this um? And then the light changed Apparently when somebody said hey is it free? Um, the light turned purple or the orb sorry, the orb turned purple for like a little bit, and then somebody said, no,

it's safe. And then it turned green and that led people to the safe, which is oct eleven dot com slash safe, which it turns out leads to like a bunch of stuff like the manuals all that. And then there's this little bit of text in the HTML again as a little comment, and it has it has the phone number, which I'm not going to read. It's super easy to find, come on, you guys. And then it says open at and most will miss the point entirely

have and will continue to looking for material. This is why we are so disconnected from everything connecting at record dot oct And and then there's some weird little bit of stuff here. It's um for backslashes, sorry for forward slashes, three bars and seven asterixes. We call them the coding world splats um. And then next there's a comma and then it's five bars, three forward slashes, and two splats or asterix or as we call them in the real world,

as a normal human beings called them. And it turns out this is a code. It's not very complex, but it's a code. Actually, I got to tell you that there's it kind of is complex in that the way that somebody guessed of what to do with what we're talking about, how to make it work. It's it's it's it's not highly sophisticated, it's sophomore level. Maybe, okay, I'll give it that. I would say, paint of this is a plus and this is a minus. In this multiply

it's not an orphan any like Dakota ring. But it's also not, like, you know, insanely challenging. So Steve has kind of said for you all that first one, the four forward slashes three bars and seven splats um symbolize four plus three equals seven, or it could just symbolize number four thirty seven or four thirty seven. And then the second one is five minus three equals two, which is seventy two, which yields nothing but or five thirty two.

But I think it was meant to be like a key more than anything else, because this coding cipher thing becomes way more prevalent and way more complex, and those do lead to things eventually. They eventually, Yeah, next day, we're not to the next day. We still got to talk about safe. Yeah, let's talk about the safe for a second. It's a my understanding. I don't know if this is true or not. I may have totally made this up, but from reading stuff it sounded like the safe.

If you like put in dot com slash safe, it basically gave you like a keypad. It's a red screen with a gray gray keypad in the middle, and it's that's This is one of the things that drives me crazy with it is that they did that same stuff where it's the keys go one, two, capital E, so it's supposed to be three. It does that kind of stuff through but yeah, there is. It doesn't work. But but so you could just type in numbers and it would direct you to pages if you've got a valid

if you've got a valid number. So these this is how people discovered five manuals in the safe um with a lot of other pages as well, and just some really cookie random stuff. Um. One of them is like literally just a YouTube video of the Beatles singing Hello Goodbye, which I thought was kind of weird because I saw that and I was like, oh my god, Paul is dead.

Oh no, well it it also made me think of I found another site when I was doing some other searches that was in the same vein in the same timeframe, and it it had the I am the wal wrist on there. I was like, ah, this is so related to Paul. It's debt. Okay, So we're going to skip ahead a little bit because I don't want to talk about every single and the manuals planning. You need to go look at the manuals. Yeah you do, and we'll talk about one of them, but not all of them.

And then again, I'm just gonna skip ahead a little bit because I don't want to talk about every single one of these pages. Because it changed every day, literally every day. Dangnir every day. On September three appears a simplified Chinese symbol that is den is what Google pronounced to me from this Chinese character. Um, it's simplified Chinese. It's not conjy. You'll see people say it's kolanji. It's not.

And it roughly translates to mean endure. And I see a lot of people say it's like, oh yeah, um, patience is a virtue. Endure is what this means. No, that's bull hooey. It's really like tolerate, like endure it tolerate it. Yeah, it's yeah, it's like patient that kind of thing. I think it's more of like, Okay, deal with it. Not like your patience is a virtue. It's like, is it more of a crap happens? Deal with it? Yeah, that's kind of my interpretation of it. And please somebody

email me if I'm totally wrong about that. You don't invite that um And then below that is a really good instance of the that cipher that we're talking about. Yeah, and it's way more complex, and it basically translates to one plus one, three times one, ten minus two and five plus two, which returns, of course to three eight seven. And again, I don't understand how that frig people figured out that one means minus and the other means multiply,

because there's nothing to indicate that in here. Yeah, I don't. I don't know that people actually do know that you don't. People could be making all sorts of strange assumptions. Plus is when your first value is a forward slash. Minus is when your first value is bar. Times is when your second value is a back. That absolutely does not work. You have you have two sets of numbers here that both start with a forward slash. This code is messed up. Plus is a forward slash and a bar or your

two values. Okay, minus is those swapped, so it starts with bars and with forward slashes. Okay, times is when you've got your first value is a forward slash and your second values of backslash. So they're opposing each other to make so they make those like and then there's no I've never seen divided, so okay, three by one. I don't know, it's dumb. Yeah, I don't know why. I apologize to everybody. You need to be looking at this.

This code is just like the presumptions to make it work and to actually have got it to work or just mind numbing to me. Yeah, And realistically, there's there are enough pages that link off of the safe that you could literally just type in four random numbers and people did probability of hitting up pages pretty high come out of the safe. So this one actually links to an image of a playing card. Um, that's the Illuminati.

On September six, we add music to this page um and some additional images to the whole cat image and it says deja vu at the top. There's a lot of images on this this page. This is another one of the one where they're totally going crazy with the

blur tool. Yeah, it is um and then this this day is the day where you get this added fun little comment on the h T M L that says it has absolutely no connection to a website called heart Calm dot org, which like Settle like yeah you do, you don't like, don't say you don't have a connection to a thing. If you don't have, just don't point it out. Heartcom dot org is another one of those things that totally still exists, and it's exists in its

true form to this day is today. I thought today looked better than slightly because there wasn't as many of the little dancy gift things. Yeah, so it's worth seeing in the way back machine. But the content is really just, you know, for all intense purposes the same. Heartcolm dot org is uh I guess selling touting the tell a Calm way of life. That is to say that they are defining, refining, combining, and shut minding their way to

full spectrum light on a five D consciousness. Their logo is the Illuminati I from the U S currency and love written under it. So where do I sound the check? Um? You can make it out to cash and it's part of this charity that I'm I mean, you can just use the initials. It's convicts or saving horses the organization I'm with, OK, yeah, yeah, you can abbreviate that if you need to. Yeah, because I know that there's not

enough room on your check. No, not really, but yeah, these it sounds like these guys are totally on the right track, especially with the five D consciousness. Yeah. See, yeah, that's an image. They took a dollar literally, Yeah, it's a crop dollar bill. There's a lot of texting here. If you want to read it, you totally are willing to I or welcome to do Maybe not willing, but I wasn't willing. I read some of it, but not very much. There was a couple of things I had

to stop reading. Yeah, this was one of them for me. The quickening was the other. When they got me, I couldn't read that or watch it. Yeah, I guess. Will skip ahead to September seventeen, where the page changes to a black background. There's a blinking twelve o'clock like digital clock in the corner, and there's um some numbers at the top. Now, the thing about this set of numbers

is now it starts with a negative a dash. Well, this one all I mean that number is like almost the exact same as the one that was in the in the original pages, that number never started with a dash. What date are we at now where it did? Did it? Yeah? Okay, so the number is updating? All right? Is it get okay? So let me ask you this, because I have a hard time with this. Is the number getting bigger or smaller? I had to stop tracking the stupid number. I apologized

asking this, but I couldn't take it anymore. Yeah, I understand. So that's the number on the other page, just so you know, that's okay, that's that's such a huge strange string of okay. So here let's go through here. It's getting bigger if it's a negative number? Is it increasing or decreasing? Oh god, I I barely got through. So okay. So it's got the twelve o'clock blinking in the bright left hand corner. Um, there's some numbers. The first string

starts with a dash and is getting bigger. Then there's a two point one to nine, and then a three point five one long strings numbers, and then set of four five images, five images again right after the other. Yeah, and because again we have a Steve he actually compiled this together to make it into a gift. Jeff I say, gift. Great, everyone else calmed down, it's a gift. So this is this is one photograph. This is one photograph that has been photoshop badly. Photo shop. Yeah, I would say, because

they take, they take. So Okay, here's Joe described this photo. Yeah, it's it looks like it's set in the park. It's on a lake or perhaps a river. There's a beach off in the distance of the wiste, the water far shore,

trees in the foreground. You see a lot of a lot of grass, and on the left hand side there's a tree, and on the right hand side there's you could just barely see some trees like just coming in the left hand and the right hand side of the frame, and there's a bunch of people sitting, standing, walking and so on the tree. There's two people sitting to the left of the tree and one person standing to the right of the tree. People just start moving, Yeah, people,

people start disappearing and reappearing. Yeah. So there's like two A couple of people to the right of the tree disappeared the second in the second frame. In the third frame, they reappear but then two people to the left of the tree disappear. The trees eating them figured it out. And then in the last one, they're quite like instead of the woman that was standing next of the tree, there's like a clone of one of the women that's sitting in the chair. And then below what it says

choice as yours. And then a bunch of people also on the shoreline down there disappeared in that one. They reappear here. Yeah, so will again. I think we'll try to put this up somewhere on our website so you can just see. Um, it's kind of interesting. I'm not totally sure what the goal of it is, but hey, there you go. I don't know. This picture got used for a good length of time on the site. Did Yeah, it could be numbers could be cut again. Two people

disappeared to you know, two people disappear, disappears. And the thing is is that you know, the period signature is again present on this page. Yeah, that's true, and there's no weird wait, go back and back and back and back. Sorry, in the code here they have altered. So this is something that I noticed for certain images is there's alt text, and in this one, the alt text is patients, while others reflect. I don't know what it means, but I noticed some of the images had that same kind of

descriptive all text. Yeah. One of the things that I've noticed that's kind of a common theme throughout is that open continues to kind of you almost goad people on. There's definitely the sense of like other people are getting this, why aren't you getting this? Or like hey, hang out, other people aren't getting this, so just like chill, we're doing this all together, which is weird, but Okay, this is why I still feel like there's some ascendence toned

all of this ascension I'm looking for. Well, yeah, we'll talk about that. Yeah, I kind of like Heaven's Gate. I don't know, I don't know if that's what it is or not. But yeah, yeah, we got a candle, so you know that, which is that was actually an animated gift. Yeah, and then and the clock went to twelve o one on that one on October seven. But we're gonna skip ahead a little bit. We're gonna skip two October. When the page changes back to a white

background page. At the top, it says start in California, and then there's that number that's like a hundred and fifty trillion? Is that? I think it's trillion? Yeah? Yeah. And then below that is an image of a guy who's simultaneously asleep and awake. I guess, or maybe it's double exposure. Yeah, I mean it's a double I know it's a double exposure. I'm just saying, like it's a person laying down on a person sitting up, and the

cat very simil illustration. Yea. Below that is a picture out of like a textbook of a probability equation which my cousin explained to me which I didn't like. The probability of a over being. Yeah, it's um that. It refers to the probability of A over B being equal to the probability of a intersecting over B. The probability of UM of a over B is equal to the probability of a intersecting B over the probability of A. Sorry, I totally get it. Okay, I'm going to use that

every day from now on. I'm sorry, Can you put that into a probability of a over before before? Because otherwise we can't have this conversation, Mr Barista. I can't pay for it without a probability. I use this constantly when I'm driving. No, you're laughing, but you do. I mean this is like a probability equation that you do some unconscious yeah yeah. And I'm always like, you know, what's what's the probability that the more on in front

of me is going to slow down? And probability is high below that is um some text that says when do dreams starts to sleep in? When do dreams start to seep into reality? And then choy it is yours and then the period signature period signature, and then there's a message from Open. We're not going to read it, but it's written to those involved and those who have just started seeking, and basically Open just wants people to like calm down. Um there apparently there's some ne activity happening.

I don't know. Basically what's going on here is Open claims and a lot of those little HTML things like this isn't a game comments, Yeah, this isn't a game. We're not playing a game here. It's not a game. But then Open also posts things like this and you're like, well, obviously it's a game, Like what what, I don't know, Yeah, it's a game. It's a prank and who knows, who knows,

just deliberately wasting people's time. Yeah, and then there's another little comment under here, which I'll read because it repeats for the I think the duration of this website being up. This is a comment in the landing page. Well this, this comment is repeated man over again. So this comment says, if you're expecting explosion, fires, death and destruction, then your mind is in the wrong place and you will be disappointed. That is not what this is about. There has never

been a mention of an ending. There will always there will be a twenty nine. Those who continue to look for an event have been missing the point from the beginning. It is within and eventually you will see that maybe this was in retaliation of that crap TV show that was on for a while the event. Wasn't that what

that was called? Yeah? Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, it was on and it must have been two thousand and ten, two thousand eleven, and there was It was on for a season and it was a really crappy show. Never saw it. You know what, You're lucky. We're gonna hop to October. Getting dangerously close to here. Um, where most of the most of the pages kind of the same as the one we just described, um, except for below the choice is yours and the period sign off

the ellipses sign off. There's three images. One is like a thinking bubble from a cartoon. One is like a hand pointing out a watch on a wrist, and then the other is I think it's an optical illusion, that image illusion optical illusion. Well, I just mean that it's meant to be an optical illusion when you reverse image search this there, this exact thing minus the blue and

red is an optical illusion. I don't know what it's meant to do, but okay, I'll believe you, Okay, great perfect um, and I have it on good authority from somebody sitting in this room that these all three are links, and they all linked to the exact same thing, which is just a page with those three images on it. So you want to know what's the weird thing about that? Yeah, okay.

I really was convinced that this had to go somewhere, and I kept trying combinations it didn't work, and then I would back up to the very beginning and keep trying it again. It wasn't until I went to the archive whoever was doing this. So the thought bubble is one, the hand pointing at the watches too, and the weird circle picture is three. That's what they that's what they refer to him. As they took it far enough that

they build each answer. You could hit one like five times and it was a new page, so that if somebody was actually watching the page or the address bar, they'd be like, oh, I've got to be getting closer, because it would be uh dot com forward slash one, forward slash one, forward slash one, forward slash one, forward slash one, until eventually it's stopped. But it was cookie how far they like, I don't but it never went anywhere that I could find, So I don't know what

that heck it was about. You're talking about clicking on the images themselves, yes, because if you clicked on one the thought bubble, it would take you to a new page which was one, two, and three thought bubble hand and the dots, and you could then click on one again and that page would look like the page had just reloaded, but in fact was a new page that was identical, and then you could click on one again and it would look like it reloaded the same page

when in fact it had really had just loaded a new page again that was identical. That's what I mean. They took it layers and layers and layers deep, and that's themendous amount of work and the questions of course why, yes, exactly, like why I never saw the point? Yeah, probably my family. I think maybe in the message here is like believe that time is an illusion? Yeah, I thought it was

something like thought is what makes time an illusion? Or like your brain or consciousness is time's illusion or something like that. Yeah, I agree, something like that. Those who say that time doesn't really exist. Yeah, it's a flat circle, man. And you know, I tried to tell my boss that bathtard show up, but it's elusion. Here. There's a like a tweet that keeps getting circled around that is like one of my favorite things. And it's like, you know, boss,

like why are you late? Guy who's about to invent dilight savings times? Oh haven't you heard for me? Um? Okay, So we're going to skip ahead to the next time that there's a snap shot of this on the way back machine. And now one would assume, given that this website is called October eleven, that some enterprising, fewer forward thinking fireworks or something going on, or they would just be like, hey, you know what I'll do. Uh, We've been cataloging this on the way back machine. I've been

hitting you know, snapshot this page. This is the very day that this website was created for. I will go and snap it. No, not not a single image of what this website like on October twenty. Nobody's given it doesn't exist. That's so frustrating to me with Internet guys. Geez. So the next image we have is from October two days after the fact, two days after the fact, after the the web equivalent of the money shot, and we don't have it. Don't have it. Yeah, the cameraman was

just shy. I don't know. Top of the page, top of the pages, the Ellipses sign off. Then there's the three images, the thought time illusion, and then under it it says the record which is a link, and then website again um, and then it says when it's speeds and it's tough to make out, I'll be here to help. And then below that it says a symbol, not an event for those who have reached an understanding that date will never fade, it will remain. That is more powerful

than material to open your eyes. That's the whole lot of sense, whole whole website. There. There's a little note in the htmail here which I suspect was uploaded before October, just because it says soon October all over the world. Um. And then it says this website was and continues not to be a scam. It will remain here for when it is needed for answers. And then it has that if you're expecting explosions destruction a bit down there too.

This bit of grammar is the most troubling thing to me, the this website was and continues not to be a scam. Just it's more better English. But okay, wait, I want to I want to point something out because we're going to talk at least I intend to talk about this in theories. I want to point out that it says here in the text that is not what this is about. There has never been a mention of an ending. There will be a twenty nine, so those who continue to

look for an event up. So that's something that I want to point out. That's in the code which I read a little earlier but yeah, that's fine. There's been magize. No, no, it's really fine. So the link goes to the record. On the PDF, there's a nice little screen cap of a post that was made on October one, more stream of consciousness, really stream of consciousness stuff. And then the

website changes to just be some weird stuff. It basically transitions to this website that's got the ellipses thing at the top, and then it has something one like one little phrase that changes, and then under it's a link to the record, and then it says I've received emails regarding quite a few people's experienced sudden and frequent rushes through their day. Please post for the record. And that stays pretty much the same. There's just this one little

bit that changes over and over again. The first one just says determinism, question mark deep. The next one, if you had said that in my voice, you wouldn't have needed the question ark, because I always say things. The next one is tonnel dash ill dash lost dash change the picture with two, which is in brackets the change the picture part. Yeah, and then it says proof of what you're capable of reach belief one gets you there for proves no illusion you can still how can be um?

How is any of this here? Don't ask yourself the question, dwell on it. There's one where it says yeah. This one on um November says Massi Ramoto, which is like all one word, but it's actually referring to mass Moto, who you probably know who this person is. I'm going to say the thing that this person is um famous for, and that is um water quantum physics. He if you

saw what the belief do we know? He's the guy who's like really famous for like this kind of quack science of human consciousness can totally change the molecular structure of water. Man, our thoughts and emotion and emotions influence it, which is why you have to think of thoughts about yourself and the water in your body will be good. He doesn't talk like that, by the way. He's like a seventy year old Japanese man. He does not. I would love it. I do want to say that that

movie was certainly full of quack science. So yeah, this is actually this website reminds me a lot of that movie a lot. When did that movie come out again? I don't remember? Okay, Yeah, so that that's a significant amount of time before this happened. But that doesn't mean that everybody saw it when they know. But what I

meant was, you know how this happens. Somebody makes the crazy advent true stealing artifacts and fighting Nazi movie, and then suddenly there's seven knockoff versions of that movie very short succession. It's the same kind of phenomenon. I agree. UM, So let's go ahead and just skip the rest of everything, you guys, I'm sure we'll go look at the pds through them. Yeah. So we're gonna talk about just the one manual first, and then I guess we can talk

about theories kind of stuff. Sure, there are five manuals altogether. I'm kind of using air quotes here around the manuals because most of them are just like two sentences. They simple, um. But the first one is apparently key to you know everything. UM. At the top of this page it says, no, it's not an illusion. Okay, well I never said it was. UM. Number one is an image of two guys. It's like a mirror image two silhouettes. UM. Standing one's read and

one is blue. I don't know why because of the pills. Ye. And then the next image is like I keia people sitting in chairs. This is staring at each other. Yeah, eye level, and then contact there's a line drum and three is like some symbols of like how one should make eye contact, like don't look at this eye, look at this eye and look at these particular places in the eye. And then there's an image those are black

and white. And then there's two images of eyes. One that's in hazel, that's a hazel eye looking kind of off like not centered, and one that's a blue eye that's looking directly at and in between these two images it clarifies it's not about color, it's the position. So it's not only for blue eyes, not only blue white people. Anybody can do it. I feel so much better now, Yeah,

I mean too. Um. And then the fourth step is that you sit like a Kia people at eye level with a timer, a giant timer in between you, UM, with three minutes on the clock. I don't know, actually know if three minutes is like the I don't I don't think. Yeah, um, and you like look at blue eyes directly and then um. Step five, which is apparently the most important step but also the most disturbing photoshop if you look direct like you it's just like a

rectangle of a woman's face cut out. That's just her eyes and it's not the weird like blur thing on it. And then like right below it somebody like it's somebody took like a black fuzz tool to it. I think it's meant to represent like focus only on the eye. It's like you make eye contact. Joe and I are just making eye contact right now, just staring like, don't focus on anything. Let everything else fuzz out. Are you

letting it fuzz out? Are you looking at it? I know my eyes everything else start fuzzing out now, yeah, okay um. And then the sixth image is like ikea people sitting I and then it says one person over one person it says anticipate, and then over the other person that says pick a number one to ten. And then under it it says, once you get that, you'll realize more, move up in difficulty, see what others have

It is there. So I think the purpose of this manual is to get people to telepathically talk to like synchronize consciousness. Maybe yeah, I was gonna say, there there is talk that this is meant to represent an exchange of consciousness. So under that there's a broken YouTube link which actually links to because everybody tries to steal copyrated

content content and then finds your channel shutdown. Yeah, so it links to UH season two episode five of Through the worm Hole, which you guys remember Through the worm Through the Wormhole is um a TV show in which Morgan Freeman a k a. God explains the universe because he's tired of humans not understanding the awesomeness of his creation because we're dumb and you. This episode was called is There a Sixth Sense? And so it's like a little part of it, and then it says zero to

which I think means watch until like. And then under it it says it must bold be observed, not told. Observation is everything. This isn't spiritual, it's not religious or beliefs. This is only part of the coming date. Nothing escapes a black hole, not even light. And then step seven, apparently underneath there says, don't accept what blinds you? Is it an illusion? Ask yourself? What is God? The grammar so bad, I'm sorry, Ask yourself what it really is?

When you're there? If particles react to consciousness or an observation, and all the things are made of them, then so must everything be consciousness? If that holds true, what if you observe what you believe to be real? Does it become that? When did the man you will start working for you? This of all of the parts, sounds the most like what the bleep? Because basically that's what that whole movie is like. You can just think it into consciousness and then it exists. I could, yeah, me too,

be a millionaire. I wouldn't be doing as we're getting podcast. So you know. The funny thing is that I just noticed on this page that I have seen on a lot of them, but I don't think we've mentioned, is that there is some odd application of font styling in other words, I mean bold and italics. Uh. In the beginning one of the early pages, there was something about going back to the trains. The word train was in italics, but the S was in regular Like. There's a lot

of odd uses of that through this entire site. Now what that means I don't know, but I just I noticed it again and wanted to say something. Yeah, I would agree with that. Um, it's overall a weird website. UM, so I'm feeling solid in the amount of we've talked about. Do you either, you have something we want to bring up before we start talking about theories. Steve's got his black book out, so I suspect he might reference for reference. This is This is manual to the entirety of it.

Let's take a look. Let take a look at it. This is it? Yeah, okay, here's manual. To look into it until they open again. Next line. Need a helping hand. It's not a pyramid. See yourself to that point and keep going. Eventually they'll reopen. This one takes time. We should just sit while we're waiting. Christine, No, no, no, I was you two can read all the manual. It doesn't take long to read these manuals, guys. So I'm fine. Yeah, this is my kind of manual. Yeah yeah, okay, So

you do you have something? I have some things that I want to point out. These are things that I just found rooting through the internet like a crazy person, because that apparently is what this one did to me. I can't wait to have my life back. So there, when we were in the beginning, there's project project pixels or pixel projects project pixels. Is that it? Okay? Because there's also a Pixel Project dot net website out there,

which is a website. It's a weird flip of the words, and oddly, it's a website that is devoted to stopping violence against women. And there is also a The Human Project dot us because you remember that the Project pixels website said the Human Project. The Human Project dot us is a website that has a punch of stuff on it that is all about the unification and advancement of mankind or human kind, I should say, which is a

really weird set of tie ins. I really felt like the Human Project dot us is much much newer and probably has no link, but it's still a strange set of links to to have found. Um, let's see the other things that I found here. Uh, that is something to go into theories. I do want to note that this was not the only date website for the month

of October. It turns out somebody had been running October or oct one, two thousand eleven dot com and I found that through some forum posts somebody else was talking about weird date websites. Because I don't know if Devin you might remember this, there was an August eleven, two thousand eleven site that had been hot that summer. Does that sound familiar to you at all? It was weird, and when the date came, the person who was hosting the August site admitted that it was totally just a gag.

But this one, the two thousand eleven dot com site, Everything for it re routes to another website no matter what date you pull, So somebody had a reroute on it, and it's I'm gonna spell this out because I don't know how this is pronounced. It is you M M O I S M dot com And what's there? Well, it's a totally an alien website. It is totally about UFOs. Uh. There is there's a symbol for uranus or is it yes, uranus all over uranus, whichever you like to say. I

like to say uranus. But that's just because it's me. That's benefit jokes because urinus is not nearly as funny. Um. But there's but that's a it's a weird seven day

distinction that is linked to this other site. And that is something that you two and I have talked about before we started this episode, is that I was doing the math or we did the math for October somehow in all of the searching something about this you moism dot com whatever, the alien Urinus website Uranus website is there's something where somebody had done the math and got the same impression that aliens were coming to Earth and they were on the at the asteroid belt and the trip,

the journey from there to Earth would take three one days, which according to us sitting here doing the math earlier, if they started on the first of the year, would be October of that year. So it's just it's a weird thing that I don't know. Yeah, let's let's talk a little bit more about the obsession with um October when we talk about theories, and I'm holding back some stuff, so we probably just get into the theories and that's

going to come in into the last theory. I'm sorry, listeners, I know you guys hate it when we do this stuff. But it wasn't intentional story. So how long were these changes going on on the side you oh, the updates to the pages, It was sometime into two thousand and twelve that they I mean they that's when because we were looking at that page where it had it went like Mossy, what was the Jefpanese, thank you. I didn't

want to, Butcher's name already did that. There was that, there was, and then there was a version of it that had space eon or something like that. Like those changes happened periodically in but I think this the changes quit mid off the top of my head without going back through the document, So they were updating it for a decent amount of time. That's what I think too. Yeah, okay, so theories we're gonna talk about. UM. The first thing I'm gonna bring up is one that you will see

on Reddit, and there's one video. Please don't watch this YouTube video. It was really painful to watch. UM. But it claims that a Reddit user UM named like Confederate America or something like that. Of course, UM said that he aid this for a class project and would everybody please stop calling him. Yeah, I saw that. I that, Well, that was actually gonna be dumb. Actually, that was gonna be One of my theories is that this is just

some guy who was teaching himself HTML. It's possible, but it's a lot, like there's a lot of work that went into this, so there has to be something more to me than it. Just like I'm just gonna teach myself some h code like you don't you don't make a site that links new websites off of or new like new pages off of you know, twelve different clicks on the same image when you're when you're learning the code.

It actually the hands on things, the way to do it, and it's you know, it's a certain amount of work, but it's kind of fun. It could be fun. Actually, I have to agree with Joe because like the whole thing of project pixels dot Com being the source for the very first page of this is somebody who doesn't know what they're doing and figuring it out, because I've

done that with coding, and I think I agree with you. Okay, I don't think this theory is right, but I think that there is a lot of hands on learning and it is very possible that some community college kid was learning how to do this, because I mean this is when I was went to school and had a web class, people did this. They just they were like, oh, yeah, oh well, well, where's you? Oh well I I um so I stayed up till like four in the morning working on my projects and then I got this goofy

idea and so I just changed it. Well, did you save a copy of it so we can show it to the coast? Oh? No, I didn't know you could do that. Like that kind of goofy stuff happened. I don't think it was a class project though. The reason I think the reason being is it started in early August. It would have started in September if it was a class project and maybe or maybe you can yeah or maybe and maybe continued the second term after January. And I really feel like the less college I went to

I started in August. Yeah, yeah, but they don't start you on projects early August. Uh my way. I remember my web class we got thrown. The guy was like, the other way you're gonna learn is doing it. We're gonna do talk about this for twenty minutes. You're gonna go watch this tutorial and you're gonna make something and it's gonna suck. Okay. So in my in my web

programming classes, they like they gave you a domain. You didn't go out, so like that would be weird to me that they were like, yeah, go buy your own domain, call whatever you want and create an entire labyrinth of website or webs I don't think they told him to do that far. I think somebody took it that far. Okay, that's fair, but I don't think it's a class either way. Um, so I think we can debunk, especially being that ready. Oh no, I don't think this reddy user thing is right,

but I think this is somebody learning. Yeah, and you know, if if it was, if it was truly him, he would have had the number disconnected. He would have changed his number. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Well, I guess briefly just to mention that that website, that phone number, like whatever, it's not it didn't and I'm sure it didn't wrink anything. It was just a voicemail. It was just a recorded message.

So I know we'll talk about that in a little. Um. Next up is that it could be an RG, which you may remember is an augmented reality game, which alternate or augmented reality game. I guess if this is an r G. I don't understand rges to be honest, Like, okay, maybe like a puzzle solving thing maybe, but like an it's uh, that's like that's the only way that I can that that set of noises is the only way I can react to this. Yeah, this is this is one of the otters in terms of and I will interact.

I will grant that you know, the wiki and the orb change in colors does suggest an interactive quality of the game or of the site, But I don't think it's a game. I don't think that was the intention. It's a pretty slow living game. Well, you know, if it's a game, it makes me think of those Commodore sixty four games I used to remember where they were completely text based. Your character walks into the forest, what do you do? And you would type in throw rock

at bird and then it would respond. There was one of those that was for Hitchhiker's Guide and um, you had to tell you you had to say open eyes. It was like the biggest chance. I was like thirteen trying to figure out how to play with my friend and it was like it wouldn't respond to anything until you said, like, okay, open your eyes and then it was like, oh, you open your eyes in your bedroom, what do you do now? And you had to be

like sit up in bed. It was insane. But yeah, I mean I don't think that's what this is at all. I don't think that that does bring back great memories. So because there was the original text game I think was the Adventure. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure, and that was that was awesome. I really I really got a lot of fun out of playing Adventure. By the way, do you know what I just saw they brought back for kids in printed format, Choose your Own Adventure? Do you

remember those? They brought those back. I saw volume after volume of them the other day at a store, Like yes, okay. Next theory is that it's a cult of some kind. I don't. I guess I don't. I think the term cult implies something really sinister to me. Um. I also think that occult would imply that there's an attempt to like get people together into a community in real life.

And Open didn't seem interested in revealing anything about themselves or getting people to you know, come together in real life or really do anything other than like interact with people with this like weird pseudo quantum physics science. Um. Okay, I'll wait. Yeah I don't know either. I mean I didn't. I didn't even know that he wrote that stuff. A lot of that stuff. There were some pages that were went on for a while. He might have just cut

and pasted that. I feel like okay, yeah, you're at cult has a bad tone to it, But a lot of things that I've seen like this, where people they try to get everybody who thinks the same together, and then there's this insular quality because we're all talking to each other and we all think the same. And I feel like, rather than putting you know, this was the initial sales pitch, let's say this was the pamphlet. The

website was the come check us out pamphlet. And I wonder how much of the actual lobbying to join the team happened via email, because open at eleven dot com

was a valid email address. Open was responding to people, and though most of the stuff that I saw people wrote in was either I'm not no offense but lame or bogus, because I don't believe they actually said the things they said, but it seems like maybe that's the way that they felt like that was the best way to do the channel of communication, and maybe with the phone number and conjunction, it was you wrope open wrope back and said say the code word of angel key

crown or I don't know, I'm making this up, then leave your phone number. I will call you back and we will discuss. Do I think that that's what it was? I highly doubted, But that's totally within the realm of possibility. It is. The Only problem I have with that is that if you had, if you had totally recruited a bunch of people into his cult, then by now at

least a few people would have left the cults public. Yeah, but you know what, I've only seen comments or email chains from a couple of people, and they were always the first email er too. And yet open must have has some decent conversations with people based on what's in the wiki, because the the end of the wiki has a bunch of content that you can tell comes from emails.

And so I really I wonder if we don't hear from those people because they are like minded people who want who wanted to believe this kind of stuff, and therefore we're willing to fall in line. So for me, that falls under something else. I don't think that falls under cald No, I don't think it's called but right. So, and that's my next kind of fury, right, is that

there's like something else going on here. I want to take this moment to address some things that we know that we haven't talked about yet, or at least that we think we know. One is, I'm pretty sure Open is from California, and this whole thing is based out of California. You will here starting California. Yeah, that was That's part of it. There's a lot of exploration of these numbers, these like giant numbers that we've been talking

about of actually being UM geographic coordinates UM. And people have done some searches on those, and oftentimes they do end up in California. I couldn't give her. I couldn't get work. Yeah, you have to do a lot of Some people say you actually you end up in Yosemite. I heard that from William Yeah, but um. Other people say, um, and I've seen this too, you end up kind of in like the l A County area. And then there's also UM one certain little bit of text, it's a

stream of consciousness post from OPEN. I think it's on records, maybe not. I can't remember where I saw this, but um Open talks a lot about strings of numbers being really prominent in their life and one of and they say, you know, one and one four eight one eight, and then like continues on and it always stood out to me, like, why would you say one plus one four eight one eight? What's eight one eight Eight's an area code in l A right outside of l A. So that's pretty significant.

And then also you sent me somebody didn't I pear search and it returned at the time today can do it? Yeah, and it returned. And you know area of kind of um Brea in California, which is like right next to wear the cut off for eight one eight area code

is in Orange County. It's right now, It's like this is this, there's like this intersection of where like Orange County, eight one eight and Brea all kind of come together, not like exact, Yeah, but you could I mean, you know, with the march of error, you could be Well, it's interesting because the phone number, the area for the phone number Orange Texas, Orange County, Texas. Yeah, yeah, if you if you did a swap of area codes and called

that number, I wonder what that would wonder? What would result? Have you tried it yet? No? I haven't, because yeah, so I mean it's interesting to me that bit um regarding the phone number as well. You will see this on almost every ride up that you see of this case.

You will see people say people call the number a couple of times in a row, and the first two times people here, Um, it just picks up and you hear breathing and then a lot of beat, and sometimes you hear like like there's one where the guy heard something scraping, like something to be drug across the floor, which is actually just breathing. I've heard the recordings. Yeah,

I could make that into that. But you will also see that at least one caller quote unquote called and heard something too horrible to report that was just screaming. On the third call, well, it was more than screaming. It was like the first part of it was screaming and then it was just horrible. You will see that

repeated again and again and again. Well, I'm here to tell you that in talking to William who created this video that is often referred to with this case, that he has told us that he added that bit in as an a arg that was going on on his YouTube channel. That is an invalid piece of evidence for this case. He inserted it for fun, which and to his credit, I don't think that he realized when he made that video that that would be parrotive. So frequently that that would be used at it is. It really

is so. And I don't think when he was making the video he was like, I know, I'll add this to the case. You know. I think he just right. I mean, I think he just thought to himself, like, this is a great place for my a arg thing to like fit into this case. And so there's no oh no, there's no instance in which somebody has called the phone number and gotten anything other than the exact same message, which makes everybody think it's just an outgoing voicemail.

So what is the way? So I have actually before his video, I've seen some stuff about that that phone number and what happened. So what is it that you are saying happens when? And it rings for a couple of times and then it picks up and then it's just like silence or like faint noises. It kind of sounds like it's like in someone's pocket for like a couple of seconds, and then there's beep. Okay, Because that I had I had read from people. Now again we are at the mercy of the people who are posting

this stuff for the truthfulness of it. But I have heard that it was a series of beeps. I've heard that it was numbers, and I've also heard that people who left a message got a reply. Okay, I can't discount the people who got left a message got to reply, but I can say that, like without fail, when you see somebody post on a forum, like I just called it and I heard this, somebody will post right after that day, you are a liar. I just called it

and got the same thing. And see, that's where it's coming from, is that I had the somebody said I got this weird. I was gonna say a different word, crap, and the person said, you're a liar. It was a series of beeps. And That's where I'm getting interesting. No, I mean it's possible. I mean it could have changed. I don't know. I don't have a stake in that, but I don't think anything weird is happening with that opening. But definitely that whole like screaming to disturbing things, that's

not real, you know. I actually think that there should be a little project here and that lots of us need to call this number and that when it beabs, leave a message, leave a nice long message, and then if we all call, we all call and and fill up their mailbox, the voicemail box. Then the whole thing stops working. They got to answer you delete voicemails or

something like that. So we can start that when you guys start contacting us, Let's like, let's arrange a time where we all start calling, because I'm just curious to see if if if it's probably just somebody's cell phone, then we can if we can fuilt their voicemail box, we should try it. Yeah, so I guess you know, for me, when it all comes down to it, I think that October eleven is really just based on I

think it's just one person who's running it. When you when you google October eleven, you find out that apparently, and this is like a well documented thing, it is the um end of an era and the dawn of the ninth Unity Wave of consciousness UM, which is some like new age spiritually like again that pseudo quantum physics sort of situation where apparently like the the end of one era and we're going we're taking the step up on the pyramid to the highest consciousness. Is this from

the Quickening video? Do you remember? Did you? Guys? Yeah, it's not though, Yeah, no, no, it's I mean so, and this is like a thing that's a lot of

people believe in, whether it's true or not. It's based in the mind calendar, it's based in a lot of like this weird you know, consciousness is reality science, um, but I think, you know, for me, based on like a lot of the spelling and grammar and deep I'm like doing jazz fingers over here, like deep quality of a lot of these posts, I really think, yeah, well, I mean there are the attempts at being like really deep and profound, Like I recognize this a lot as

like something that I would have as a teenager or like or early twenties person been like this is so deep, Oh my god, nobody's that were discovered Like if you just look in the eyes you will know. I mean, you know, that's the sort of thing that it reads to me. And I definitely went through that phase. I think a lot of us go thro those phases. And I think, to me, it's just like some kid who like just saw what the bleep and like just discovered

this whole like consciousness quantum thing and like googled. Yeah, or it could have been it could have been somebody who was kind of a cynic and I just decided to put up a bunch of new age crap and see how many you know, how many people, how many people contacted and just have a little fun with them, and could have been that too. Yeah. So I guess

for me, that's like where I land. And I don't know if you guys have anything else to add to that, not really, I just I just think it was somebody who was just, you know, just kind of punking everybody. I'll say that you had mentioned just recently, you're just less minute or two the whole Mayan calendar thing, which was the year that the calendar was ending, and we were all going to go splat in the cosmos because we were gonna get wiped out for from something. It

was actually December. We're in there. But and by the way, Mayan big fail. Yeah, but there was there's there was a whole bunch of stuff on the internet about how, well, while this is going to happen according to Mayan Calendar, it could be that that is actually not right and it's a year ahead of time. In October of two thousand eleven is referenced in a boatload of places as being the actual date of something happening. That's the same

thing that I'm talking about. It's the end of one era at the beginning of this new and it's the the Awakening is what they call it. There was there's a video it's the it's titled The Quickening or the Awakening. It's a video video and it's like an hour and fifteen minutes and I watched about four minutes and then I couldn't take it anymore. And I read the description and then I couldn't take that, and I moved away. But there's all this like I'm not I'm in I'm

in agreement with you. If there's this, And I don't know that it's necessarily a kid, but somebody who's like suddenly come to this. There's this higher consciousness, the spiritualism. Um I'm trying to think of. There was a set of books that came out in this I want to say, in the late sixties early seventies, and they had these weird psychedelic who did the melting clock and had the

giant mustache. They had these weird Dolly esque covers that had moss on them and it's and I tried to read something it's the same like New age spiritual stuff. So I really I that's that's the only thing that I can describe from it. The only other thing that I came across once in the text is that I think that Open actually the name of the person who

is open is Red. Yeah. I mentioned that to me. Yeah, And that is because one time in the early pages there is text written on a page and carriage return after carriage return, and then it is dash read as in signed this sentence from Red. Well, and you can see that as well in that one little bit of hidden text that we saw in the code where it's like consciousness is Red, um, which is I mean interesting and Red would be more of a nickname but for sure,

but more than Open. Yeah yeah um yeah, I mean I guess this isn't to say, like, I think collective consciousness is like a really interesting idea overall, um, and I do hope to sometime tackle it. I've been talking about this like literally since we started the show. It's a really big topic. But I don't think that this is like you don't you don't just like sit and stare at somebody's eyes and like suddenly you can understand. There was a poll. This was an interesting one right.

There was a poll on oh that's right, one through ten, one through ten, and it was like pick your number, and it was like n of the people said seven, which the guest doesn't surprise me a whole lot, because when somebody says, like pick a number between one and ten, like pretty often, I'm like, yeah, seven, you're gonna know what you're gonna do is you're gonna go to the center and then you're gonna adjust and then you're gonna adjust one together, right, And that's a that's a known

thing for in the medical practice because they always say name your pain on a scale of one through ten, and always I always have nothing's wrong, you know, you do a low number and if it's high, but you don't want to sound like you're you're you know, you're seeking pain meds are it's the seven. It was a pretty high seven and the yeah, so I guess, you know, I don't I guess I don't know where I stand

on this. I think I'll be really interested to see, like, hopefully people will engage with us on this and like really go out and look at the stuff, and it might it might also be the creator of the website will contact us in any great story. If you would say, hey, take down this stuff, you totally come on. Guys. And by the way, speaking to myan calendar in twelve, don't see the movie. Don't do it. Don't see the John Cusack movie. That's what I was talking that we've we

jumped a limo over a cap in years. Yeah. Well, I like they had this underwater fight, you know, in in the bowels of one of these great arcs that they built, you know, and he is literally like underwater fighting and struggling and getting swept back and forth for like five minutes and doesn't drown. He's coming, he practiced, he swims along. Yeah. Anyway, it's a stupid movie. That's not up said about that. But so um, like I said, UM, the PDF that we created as well. Some of our

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