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Thinking Sideways: Ken McElroy

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Happy April Fools! On July 10, 1981, Ken McElroy was shot dead on the main drag in Skidmore, Missouri, by two or possibly three gunmen. Despite dozens of witnesses, the murder remains unsolved. Happy April fools.

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What you Have to Understand Hosted by Joe, Written by Joe, podcasted by Joe and missed You to by Joe. I look for Television by Joe. What you Have to Understand Brought to your ear holes by Joe. Thank Joe. Later Cube Explosions by There. Welcome to another episode of What you Have to Understand. I'm your host Joe, and today we're gonna talk about the unsolved murder of Ken McElroy. Ken Rex McElroy was a resident of Skidmore, Missouri. He died on July tenth in front of the dn G

Tavern on skid Boards Maiden Drag. The cause of death was two bullet wounds from two different rifles, and to this day his murder is unsolved. First, let me give you a little background on Ken uh and the events that led up to his death. Ken McElroy was a well liked local man who loved kids and dogs and wouldn't hurt a fly. Well, okay, not really. Ken McClay was actually a pedophile, arsonist, thief, and a whole lot

of other things. He was a town bully and he never hesitated to threaten or hurt anybody who got in his way. He'd shot at least four people, none of them fatally as far as I know, But you know, there might have been other people that he did kill, but we don't know. He was just generally a violent, ill tempered guy. Let me tell you about Skidmore, Missouri. It was a tiny town of about four fifty people back in the early nineteen eighties when Kent's murder took place.

It's about a hundred miles north of Kansas City. It's got two paved streets and no traffic lights. DNG Tavern was on Elm Street, just east of Smith Street. If you're on street, are you looking at it? I'm sure half of you are. The dn G is that low white building with metal siding and blue trim. It's no longer the DNG Tavern. So the sign has gone, but the building last night checked is still there. Besides the tavern, Skidmore has a small mom and Pops or excuse me,

had it since the stores not there anymore. It had a small moment pop store a calf day in a gas station. The gas station is also gone. I mean it's still there, but it's no longer a gas station. They've kind of fallen on hard times. Apparently they've lost some population. Anyway, let's get back to Ken. Ken McElroy was a one man crime spree, and I think he had two real jobs his entire life, and he didn't

hold onto those for very long. He mostly made his living by stealing stuff, and he always seemed to have a lot of money, and in fact, not long before he died, he bought himself a brand new Chevy Silverado pickup and paid cash for it, so apparently he was getting money from somewhere. Uh. He's His main specialty was rustling cattle and hogs, and after his death, local law enforcement noted that rustling in the county and actually in

all the northwestern Missouri dropped way down. He did have one legitimate job, which was training and selling coon hounds, and I'm told that he was actually a good dog trainer. Peabody didn't do that full time. Ken waste of fourteen children. He grew up poor. His family moved to Skidmore than nine forties, about seventy acres of farmland with a house on it, about four miles southeast as skid More So.

The houses I think three or four bedrooms, so it was probably kind of crowded in there with fourteen kids and two parents, Ken took up stealing animals before he was eighteen. He bought an old fort sedan, took the back seat out, reinforced the floor with plywood, and he hadded a switch so you could shut the brake lights off, and then started going right at night, stealing hogs all over the northwest corner of Missouri and sometimes adventure as

far as Kansas and Iowa. Later on, Ken had enough money to buy himself a horse trailer, and he started stealing cattle and sometimes horses. When Ken got caught stealing, and he occasionally did, he would use violence and threats to keep himself out of jail. There's one time a farmer caught him stealing two horses and the farmer reported it to the police and he filed charges. So Ken McElroy went to see the farmer and basically with a rifle and but stroked him in the face with it.

The farmer dropped the charges and so Ken got off again. Ken married his first wife when he was eighteen she was sixteen, but being married didn't stop him from philandering. When he was twenty years so he started dating a thirteen year old girl named Donna, who eventually got pregnant gave birth to a boy. By the time that this this kid was born, Ken was dating a fifteen year old girl named Sharon and they had a rocky relationship.

They they were having an argument, he shot her in the neck with a shotgun, which didn't kill her, but it did leave her with scars um and eventually Ken divorced his first wife and married Sharon. And yes, you heard that right, the guy that shot you he married him. Sharon wound up having two kids by Ken, the boy and the girl. By the time the girl was born, Ken mc elroy was regularly beating her and he found himself a new girlfriend, a thirteen year old named Sally.

This was around so Ken would have been about twenty seven dating a thirteen year old. Eventually, Ken moves Sally into the farmhouse with him his parents is his wife Sharon, Yeah really uh and their kids. Uh. Sally had three kids and Sharon had two more and can't wind up having a lot of kids. During this period, Ken was also seeing another underage girl named Alice Wood. In n four he looked, he left the family and took up

with her. He beat or got her pregnant, et cetera on the usual stuff, and eventually she left the farm with her son moved in with her mom and stepfather in St. Joseph, which is a town not too far away. Uh. Kim McElroy called the stepfather, whose name was Oath to Embury and said he was coming to get his son and that he would kill anybody who got in his way. Embery told him to pounce, and mcarlroy shows up not long after with the rifle and he shot Embery in

the thigh through his living room window. McElroy was arrested for felonious assault, but there was no case without Embery's testimony, so he started calling Embury and threatening him to kill him, his wife, his kids. He also followed him in his car. He'd drive slowly past his house or sometimes park outside, and finally Kim mcboy found Embury in a bar in St.

Joe and threatened up with a knife. When that didn't get results, he left and went to his car and got a shotgun, came inside, shot the floor by Embery's feet, and Embery still refused to drop the charges, so Ken stormed out. He wound up getting arrested, but the charges were dropped because none of the people in the bar would testify against him, so I'm assuming he had a chat with all of them too. Oh Ambury eventually dropped

his slonious assault charge. I'm assuming that he thought that Ken would probably kill him if he didn't, so probably best to do so. And not long after this incident, Alice came back to live on the farm, but by this time Ken McIlroy had a new girlfriend, trying to McLeod. She was twelve, Kenn was in his mid thirties by this time. She got pregnant at age fourteen and moved

on to the McElroy farm. And of course Ken was abusive and violent with both Alice and trying him, and at one point they took their kids and left him and went to stay at treting his parents place. Nick Elroy went and got them and basically forced him to come back to the farm. He beat treating us so badly he broke her nose and cheap bones, and then he got himself a can of gas and a trinad

go back with him to her parents house. He went inside, splashed gasoline all around and towards the place and then they headed back home. At this point, you're probably wondering, why hasn't somebody shot Ken already? Other people wondered about that. Later after Kenn's death, the local Church of Christ minister Tim Warren said to a reporter and I quote quote my only regret about what happened to Ken Rex McElroy is that somebody didn't kill him sooner unquote. You got

that town minister is glad he's dead. Oh, back to our story. Anyway, Trina had to go to a doctor for her injuries. Um, he was so appalled he called juvenile authorities because that's right. At this point, Trina was still technically a child. She and her son were put in foster care. Mcarroy was facing charges of rape, arson

and brandishing a deadly weapon. Ken was facing a little legal trouble by this point, but then as lawyer went to work as lawyer, Gene McFadden once said that Ken mcarroy was his favorite client because he was punctual, He always paid cash, and he always came back. And you can certainly see why. Uh, he used his usual strategy of getting court delays and continuances and basically strung it out so long that by. After a while Trina came back.

She got bored with being in foster care, and so she returned and Keim McElroy divorced his wife Sharon and married Trina so that she couldn't be compelled to testify against him, and she also signed a statement saying that Chim mckelroy was guilty of nothing and that she'd been lying before when she said that he had been beating her and raping her and committed arson, So that kind of got him out of that squeak. The next major incident was in nineteen seventy six when McElroy shot a

neighboring farmer named Romaine Henry. He shot him twice in the stomach and in the head with a shotgun. Likely luckily most of the shot didn't actually hit Henry, and the gun was loaded with bird shot too. He had to go to the hospital. McElroy was arrested and once again his lawyer wants to work and got the trial delayed until nineteen seventy seven. In the meantime, McElroy harassed Henry by having slowly passed his house or parking and

shining spotlight into his windows. Uh, somebody I guessing Ken McElroy put sugar into the gas tanks of Henry's tractors. At the trial, his lawyer, Jeane McFadden produced to witness says he swore in her oath that they had been with Ken McElroy at his house at the time of the shooting. So he got off again. And then time goes by. There were, all, of course, all kinds of minor incidents, but the next big one happened in April. Uh This was kind at the beginning of the end

for McElroy. Two of his daughters went into the BnB store, which was just around the corner from the DG tavern. It was owned by bow and Lowest Bowen Camp. The oldest McElroy daughter, Debbie, was a teenager. She bought cigarettes and cookies and on and on their way out the door, the younger one, Alita, who was five, grabbed a few

pieces of candy from Iraq. When the store's clerk said something about the candy, Debbie grabbed it from Alida, threw it back into the rack and stomped out of the store. A little later, McElroy and his wife Trino, who was by this pinned about twenty five. They showed up. McElroy had himself a knife. Trina did most of the talking and which basically consisted of chewing out the bowling camps and their and their clerk, and finally lowest bowling camp

had had enough. She told them to leave the store and never come back. Nobody in the McElroy clan was welcome with the store anymore. Well, that didn't set well with Kim McElroy. Another campaign of harassment and intimidation started. He once again would drive slowly past their house or park outside their house. One night, he got out and fired a shotgun into the air. Two days later he

came back and she fired the shotgun again twice. This time this kind of stuff went out for months, and then one night in July, bow bow and camp by the way that I mentioned, he was about sixty nine when this happened. He was on the loading dock at the rear of the BnB store when Kim McElroy drove up in his pickup. He got out with a double bailer shotgun and shot bow in the neck. Both survived.

McElroy was arrested again by a State Highway patrol officer and taken in He posted bail and began a campaign of harassment against the office sir in his family. Also, the local minister fell out of favor with him. Uh. The minister went and saw bo bo and Camp in the hospital and also want to see Lois Boone Camp to just you know, give her a little a little support. When mckelboy found out about this, he was upset and

so he started harassing Tim Warren. He told him at one point on the phone that he was going to castrate him and then cut his little boy to pieces in front of him. So Tim Warren and then I mentioned he was a minister. Yeah, he started carrying a gun. Um the officer's wife, remember that patrol officer I talked about, Well, started getting threatened in calls. His daughter worked at a store in Maryville, which is a town not too terribly

far away. Kim mccaroy got into the habit of showing up at the store and he lit up a shopping cart totally full of stuff, wheel it over to her checking station, and once you'd start ringing stuff up, he would walk out of the store. Meantime, his lawyer kept getting the trial delayed. So mcallaroy had lots and lots of months and threatened Bow and Tim Warren and everybody else. He would sit in the dn G tavern and talk

openly about killing Bow. He would also sit outside the BnB store in his truck and scare away customers, and the bnb's business did drop off by quite a bit. Eventually, the trial finally happened on June. McElroy was convicted of second degree assault and he was sentenced to two years in prison, but the law allowed him to remain free during the appeal process, so he was still free to

walk around. Four days after that, McIlroy was in the DNG tavern when Trina walked in with an m Won Durand rifle with the bayonet on it and handed it to Ken. That's uh. At this point, Can actually was not supposed to be in possession of a gun because of the terms of his of his bail. He was

essentially out on bail during the appeal thing. Ken McElroy chambered around and started making jabbing motions in the air with the rifle and his bayonets, saying he was going to shoot Bobo and Camp in the face with it. And a local farmer named Pete Ward left the tavern with his sons at this time, and shortly after he took up station on the road between the DNG tavern and Bobo and Camp's house, and he had a rifle.

He said his plan was to kill McElroy if he has if he was headed over to the Bowling camp house. And luckily for Chim McElroy, he didn't head that direction when he left the DNG, so he lived for another day. Okay imagined imagined already that McElroy was out on bond and he violated the terms of the bond with the rifle. The prosecutors filed a motion to revoke that bond, and the hearing was set for July tenth. That was, of course,

the day that Ken got shot. A bunch of locals showed up in town that morning to drive over to the town of Bethany, which is where the hearing was going to take place. Their plan was to support the witnesses um who had actually seen the rifle brandishing. When they showed up, they found out that McElroy's lawyer had gotten the hearing post poems for ten days. Needless to say, that was upsetting to everybody. Everybody went over to the American Legion meeting hall nearby, and they called the county

sheriff and asked him to come by. He showed up about twenty minutes later and advised everybody to keep an eye on McElroy and keep a call list so that Ken showed up at somebody's house and then they could summon help from others quickly. And then the sheriff got in this car and left town. Around this time, McElroy and Trina arrived in town and went into the DNNG. Word got over to the guys in the meeting hall,

and somebody said, let's go have a beer. The crowd headed over to the dn G and they found Can and Trina drinking a beer. And I don't know if Ken was intimidated or not, but I hear Trina was. Mkelroy finished his beer, bought a six pack to go, and left um. At about the same time, two or three people were outside forming an action plan. Reports various to the number. These guys got rifles out of their trucks. Remember this is farm country, so people are driving around

with rifles in their pickup trucks. The crowd in the dn G followed Keim McElroy out into the street. Ken got into his truck and started it, and then a number of shots rang out, two of which hit Kim McElroy, one in the neck and one in the head. Uh. And he went off to that big trailer park in the sky. His foot stomped down on the gas pedal and stayed there. The truck basically sat there, running into a full throttle for a little while until it finally

seized up and quit a man. About forty five minutes later, somebody got around to calling an ambulance. Now here's our mystery. At least two dozen people were there on the street in Skidmore that morning. Uh, And according to some accounts that I've read, there may have been as many as sixty people, but nobody saw the shooters. So this one is a real head scratcher. How could it be that chem mc elroy was gunned down in broad daylight by two maybe three guys in front of dozens of people,

and yet nobody happened to notice who pulled the triggers? Well, there are some theories out there, But before we start discussing our series, I'd like to introduce a couple of guests. Um, I guess our Steve and Devon from another podcast. Guys, come on out. Hey, Hey, how you guys doing you know good? Yeah? Fine, okay a cool? H. So you guys are on a podcast, right, yeah, you're all right, let's talk about series. Okay. Well, the theoriesn't have been floated. Uh,

first theory UFOs. What do you guys think about that one? Al the aliens pretty much? Yeah? Yeah yeah. But as you know, and when alien abductions happened, they're always accompanied by memory loss. Um, so I'm thinking that perhaps there was a UFO nearby blasting the town with brain wiping rays at the moment that shooting was taking place. Well, I mean, here's the de leo about that. It's just that's just it's silly. I mean, it's somebody would have

remembered it. Well, one person actually did claim to remember it. Oh yeah, that was I'm sorry. I just I read the Wikipedia page on this thing. I didn't do any any research for them. That actually just skimmed that summary at the top that that's pretty much all you ever do. I'm sorry. Yeah. So the one person who saw it, who witnessed it was Trina who said she saw Dell Clement, who was co owner of the d n G tavern pulling a rifle out of his pickup truck. She was

sitting inside Ken's truck the time. So what thinking happened is maybe the medal in the cabro I was shielding here from the brain wiping rays from the UFO O that the UFOs wiped the brain waves. They didn't have anything to do with the actual murder. Yeah, now they're they're just that's our that's our mystery here is how could there have been no witnesses? That people put on the tinfoil hats but the roof of the truck doesn't work. Is a tinfoil hat because it's got windows all around?

That's fair? All right, let's talk about our next theory. All right, next theory. Squirrels. Uh, there are squirrels in Skidmore and and a lot of people did say something in the order they were looking at the squirrels and didn't notice the two guys with rifles because they're what obscenely cute, But they're are cute. I like squirrels. They're little cupe cabrash. Now they're not. Yeah, alright, so squirrels, Devin, you've got any thoughts on squirrels. Um, they're cute, They're cute. Okay,

let's move on our next theory. They got this grain mold causes hallucinations and such. I've talked about this for it's you know, it's everybody's favorite go to theory for things like the Mary celest and everything else. Here's what you have to understand. Hey, that's mine. Okay, okay, Um, So did did the town share a common bread source?

And were they all eating the same bread? Well, they were buying their bread at the BnB store, So yeah, it's it's I think very likely the supply was tainted by aircott and they were all highest kites and not really in a position to remember their own names, much less who killed who. Yeah, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Well ostensibly, I guess. I don't know. I'm gonna go squirrels. You guys have you guys have a favorite. I think that dude was just a huge and everybody

wanted him debt out there, don't you think a little bit? Yeah, I think you're reaching on that one. I'm gonna I'm sticking with squirrels. Yeah, and the aftermath, just about everybody in town was interrogated by the police, and no one saw a thing man, and they took a stab at Hey, I'm talking here. This is my show, remember, all right, let's let's get back. Oh yeah, the FBI. Yeah, the FBI, and nobody saw a thing. Once again, various grand juries

looked into it. They declined to indict anybody, despite treating his claim that Dell Clement was one of the gunmen. For his part, Dell Clement said, quote, boys, I wish I could say I had done it, because he sure had it coming. But I didn't unquote. And I'm taking his word over Trina's. I think she must have hallucinated that there was another local named David Dunbar told reporters quote to be honest with you, and my only regret about the way Ken Rex died. I said, I didn't

pull the trigger myself unquote. So so and it's the story of Ken McElroy killed by invisible gunman. All right. At this point in the show is just want to tell you where to find me. Find my email, find my Facebook and all that stuff. I'm not gonna go through all that. Just google the most awesome guy in the world. You'll find me. Now you guys, you said something you wanted to talk about your podcast a little bit. Yeah, well, since you left us, we have to do a new one.

We've been working on some materials and forgot to tell you that on my way out the door, I stole a tape that had a lot of embarrassing moments on it. Great. Yeah, your lives are over cute explosions. Oh know your buck, my little black boys, you're a little black book. Some people have little black books with you know, names and phone numbers in them. Mine are full of all these weird details. In that case, it's gonna be awesome when you die and that they're gonna be like, wow, this

dude was crazy. Yeah, what'd you get that? I need to get one of those. Yeah. No, it's got a little illustrations of shootings to try and figure out angles and stuff, and I okay, let's do the thing. Well okay, we are okay, Well all right, okay, then Stevie, whatever you say, but until okay, let's try that again, until the talk really fast. Really yeah, what I want? What I want? What I really really want? So tell me

what you want? What I really really want? I want to I want to I want to I wanna let's say, say, ah, if you want to be my lover, you can't start spice girls. Did not expect me to go with it. I'm sorry, Okay, yeah, I thought he was a Royal consort. Prince Philip is the Royal Concert Consort, Consort concert. He's a royal concert. It's the greatest show on Earth. Technical or so, that's it. It's just says I can't wait

for the thinking sideways under podcasts already hyped. Y'all gonna make me Okay, you guys ready open hire up in hire, y'all gonna make me lose my cool world family. All right, you want to start the recording? There? You are? All right? I know when I'm being hilarious, not bashful about it either, and and and humble. Okay, let's assume it wasn't accular

acular accular. I've never seen an acular. I'm so worried about saying nuclear the wrong way that I'm just saying everything else the wrong I. Hi, there, welcome to another episode of Taking Sideways. I'm host, No excuse me, I'm Joe. Okay, host, I am host. I supposed to be like I am your host, host joined by Ed. Yeah and bar let's start over from the top. Okay, of this group is a man by the name of Shausen Yamashita. Is that masta? It's Yamashita? It is? I thought, remember I do, but

that's how she told me it was pronounced. Today, we'll just we'll just call it Yamashta and just call in night nine a Swedish immigrant that wasn't nine, wasn't No eight in VH one one on my Super Sweet sixteen person. Yeah, all I'm doing is tap in the cable, rattling the connections. So no touchy, touchy. If I do do it, I'll call it up. This is fun. Are you making music or destroying our equipment? Why are they mutually exclusive? Anyway, it's a very black and white world. I live in Devon,

is it. I'm sorry to hear that. Sometimes I just like to hit record as soon as the mixers plug in, just in case. So that's that's been happening. I know I have noticed this. Okay with it? I found the female officers really appreciate it when you call them sir. Usually how you end up getting beat up. We want to compliment their breasts. You want to just be like yes or no problems. Yes, it's just that this staring downwards. Oh my god, oh, oh my god, that he loved

at her. Boy, it is so big, like one of those rap guides girlfriends. But I don't know who under stands those rap is just like it's Hoddle prostitute. Okay, I mean her, but it's just so big and you live. It's just around. It's like out there, it's gross. Look so black. I like bigots that I cannot lie. I can't believe you knew that entire thing. No, no no, I know the entire song by heart. So is that you're

like your favorite karaoke song. I don't do karaoke, but I think that you should carry I do do that? So I foot tall, white woman doing it? That would be awesome. Yeah, call me and let me know so I can video. No, I do it. I genuinely, that's okay. Can we start this? Yes? And a lot of people believe that the Springfield Three's bottles are in that concrete with their bodies, that the bottle remains what did you said, bottles?

They're slowly aging. They are at this point. Yeah, like if someone's trying to make themselves her up where they're like and You're like, that's not going to help you, Like you're just making a noise. Is it gonna help you? You sound like it's ghost alight? All right? Are you ready? Okay? Yeah? Yeah, too spooky for me? Seriously, at my night law. This is a thinking sideways. If you didn't know the podcast, start over again. I just buggered that all up. What

did you was gonna say? Night light? And yeah, okay, I'll start again. I save when I paused, sir. Okay, Christie. It's actually a gall call set or something so people can hard, so people can hear. I don't do ex I know. This is why people need to hear. How hard we try. We're trying. I was able to find a pronunciation for this guy's on the interwebs. Okay, let's just let's let's start talking about this. Yeah, yeah, okay, Chris,

all right, we recording? Okay? Good. I like how sometimes Joe, it's like it's like when you take a bite of your chips in a quiet room and you go, well, you know, you get those people that sit behind in the theater and they're unwrapping a candy bar and they're trying to do it ultra quiet. I mean you don't, but I mean know, she just wanted like I just yeah, just want to grab and just be like no, yep, Okay, it's okay because this whole story is just a giant show.

It is the whole thing. That's why we're doing it. Guano Guano Festival. Do you want the map? Ready? Phones on silent testing. My phone is on do not disturb. Is Sarria going to come on again? Hey Siri? I just like that too. Of the people are beeping meet Actually it's not deep, it's I don't care, it's beeping meat. Okay, we're recording. Well, no, because I don't want to defend people and I don't want i'm the mispronouncing offender. It's okay, I know, but I'm just saying he's going to say.

At first, I don't want to be the one who's like beeping meep because I've gotten so much trouble about the off hand sneehaw, mispronunciation. I don't want to like, oh that was why did you have the whole brother versus her naming you? Oh yeah, yeah, microaggression that's why. Yeah, I'm I'm really just racist. Yeah pretty much. Yeah, where your wife beater? Whatever you say? Don't want to shift

around over here? Okay? You want to use a coaster and er that thing, man, because you're gonna set it down and can make a noise like that, Just like that, the son of the Poverty Island lighthouse said that he watched a salvage crew. Wouldn't be the son of the Poverty Island lighthousekeeper? No, no, okay, it's not recording when we're talking about my boyfriend's gang initiation. Good, let's go. Okay, you're right, okay, okay, yeah, okay, here we go. What first? Ah?

What are you saying? Sorry? I think with collective consciousness it should just be an hour of silence and if people can hear our thoughts then great. Yeah, I just want to collectively conscious conscious size? Is that not the word collectively conscious size? What? How do you say that? What's the like active verb of being conscious? To be conscious? That's but so that's the infinitive of it, Like, oh, it's like that's what you can hear the show? Do

you want it to your ear? It's just everybody else's thoughts. You don't know how to interpret it, you know, I am way too sober for that thought. Or you are high, Yes, you know that when somebody's high and you're like, how high are you? In their responses, Yes, that's where I need to be right now. We should just get high in recording episode and called the Christmas It's legal here stop like I haven't okay, so let's maybe come please

start posit and save it and started a game. Okay, pause, pause, Okay, here we are ready ready, God damn it. Every single time it's gonna happen. We're just not going to get before I forget. I'm sorry. This is one last thing I promised, last thing. Just you know, some of our listeners want us to release like PG thirteen Slash our version of Bloopers so they can hear how we actually speak, just so you know, just as I thought, Okay, okay, I'm going to do that. You talk like a longshoreman,

so do I not the balls? Not the balls, let's go all right. Yeah, but the JA was a huge deal back in the nineteen twenties, and of course after the after the whole concept of Bermuda Triangle was floated. Uh yeah, okay, sorry, I bumped my microphone. I'm sorry, so I'll start the whole thing. No, not the whole thing. I will just do from the beginning of that sentence where yeah, it's hurt ford Shire. I believe it's how you would say that. I'm gonna just let you guys

say it. I think it's it's just just as Britain we're talking about. It is probably her, sure, for sure, for sure it's the Thames, right, Thames, Thames? How do you whatever? How do I know that? No? Just how does how do you get that pronunciation from that? Because the Brits are stuck and they were taught by the Romans. I can't wait for that to make the cut into Okay, it's something on This doesn't matter anyway, No, it doesn't matter. It's not it's not major. No, figure out a post

podcasts star. All right, sounds good, okay, yeah, yeah, serious, there we go. Hello, Yes, this is dog m hmm. Okay, ready yes, Walter Concrete. Okay, I was just checking Twitter. I'm sorry. Okay that I get stopped. Okay, okay, stop. Let Devin get it. There's some kind of control if you're good. Okay, whoa, Oh, Devin's great as hits. No, I think that's my heart will go on. All right, let's get going here. Here you are, okay? O dogs three he's away howling because of Joe. Sorry, all right, okay,

ready you want to go. The cycle of having enough food followed short. I told you it wasn't gonna work. Okay, alright, I'll stay. I'll just do it now. That's we're good. That's probably enough, at least according to Wikipedia, which is all the fact checking I'm willing to do. And Durrose revealed that Ireland had been identified as a suspect shortly after the merget of Bridget O'Hara. I just said some mergury weird. She didn't get merged with anybody, Devin. Well,

hi there, all right, that's it. I quit. Okay, I'm gonna start my own podcast. Screw you guys with blackjack and hookers. Actually, screw the podcast. Yeah, I'm just gonna go problem. I'm gonna go professional, be a gambler. There you go. I worked out so well for Lukey

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