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The Stones of Carnac--a vast arrangement of menhirs in lines thousands of meters long, the purpose of the stones is an ancient mystery: necropolis? Calendar? Astronomical guide? Another mystery is the fate of the society that built them, which vanished without a trace.

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Hey, guys, Steve here, you are listening to one of our original twenty six episodes. If you listen to any of our new episodes, you're gonna notice that we're sounding a little different in these ones. Yeah, there's a reason for that. There is they've been remastered. They have been remastered because they had a really annoying hum. Yeah, I mean a huge thanks to listener James for doing almost

all of the legwork on this thing. They'll also notice if you had listened to what we're calling the last twenty six episodes before and you're re listening now, the music and sound effects are gone. Yes, we've we've gone back to straight audio, so be warned. We sound a little different today than we do in what you're about to listen to. Yeah, and bye bye, Thinking Sideways. I don't think you never know stories of things we simply don't know the answer to. All Right, well, hello, folks, welcome.

This is Thinking Sideways. My name is Joe Steve. Hey, I'm talking all over each other here. We're really good at this cars. I don't need to explain what we do for many millions of fans, but there are maybe a few who are just tuning in. So we're going to talk about mysterious stuff tonight. We're gonna talk about rocks. Yeah, I'm gonna talking about that special, a special bunch of rocks in Brittaan in the south of France called the

Carnex Stones. The Carnex stones are just thousands of stones laid out, very large stones, I might add, laid out in mysterious rows that are like over a kilometer long in some instances and ten ten ten stones wide. These stones are called men here's they are, which are needs standing stones, and they vary between several feet high to fifteen feet high and yeah, ten stones wide, over a kilometer long, hundred meters wide, and some end change along.

So we're just saying, like, so some guy in the Brittany decided to take a crane and a bunch of stones up or that's kind of my guess, you know. And so you know, there's a there's a too fascinating things about this. Number one, nobody has any clue as

to why this these people did this. And number two, given the size of the stones and then huge vast numbers of them, and then the very careful arrangement, the obviously they a huge amount of energy to this, so there had to have been a fairly large, sophisticated society. I ask a good question. They were there estimated between BC and three thousand. I thought you were talking about like some dude like fifty years ago with a crane. I'm not gonna put these rocks up. You know, it

could possibly be. I mean, we don't really know. I mean, these guys, these guys that is this Carnack Stones are named after a town in France called Karnak, and it may very well be the little pals felt that they would like a little more tourism and maybe they just snuck these things out into the fields. On that and it says there's a many large rocks explained maybe yeah, yeah, companies without town that good rail. I'm gonna put that on the list of possible experts. I think, yeah, that's

a good one. Yeah. I I have actually, and you guys have been have been looking at some of this material, have been going out and reviewing some of the various theories that people have as to why these things were put up. And that's one of the mysteries. Of course. The other mystery is it's very large, somewhat largely sophisticated society that obviously, I don't know, wealth and spare time to do this vanished without a trace. And that's another huge mystery. Where did these guys go? So we don't

know who actually did all this work. We have no clue. So yeah, I guess can you like tell me because I always get really fuzzy only human history and all that stuff. Like three thousand BC, that's when you said these were people what already five three? Okay, So what's going on then? I mean, you know, are we like obviously we're not time of Christ. Are we like Great Pyramids? Or we like this is like before the Great Pyramids,

two thousand years before the Great Pyramids. So I mean, I mean, well, when they finished up in about three thousand d C. And I assume that they didn't really finish the project, they all probably just died or something like that. Civilization just went out of style. But but yeah, that was that was still a couple of centuries. That was still at least a couple of centuries before the first pyramids built in Egypt. All right, that's all right,

I'm getting interested now. And elsewhere in the world, I think we were just basically living in mud Hutson beating each other to death, you know, and stuff like that.

It sounds like that that sounds about this is the time in human history right where we like seem to have forgotten Stonehenge was kind of happening, right, you know, all these like big times where it seems like there's this moment in human history where everyone was like, oh, yeah, we had all these big civilization civilizations, you have really

mess with people in the future, let's just forget about them. Well, there's all these megalithic constructions around that around those those thousands of years have then all of the people that yeah, moved along, the knowledge was forgotten. I think we've talked about this in a different show before. And in the future. Yeah, we're just like what we prior to the invention of writing and all that, there's no records left and you know,

all of their little houses and everything have fallen down. Okay, so we're talking about this time period of time where it's like this big question mark and just as the side. One time, I was in Wales some some years back and I visited a sumulus, which is what they have at Karnac also, which are these big barrows or burial mounds, and that was dated at about again and author unknown.

The most ancient structure I've ever been in, but you know, and those are those mounds that are thirty plus feed high. Somebody buried underneath the bottom of the mound with all their gear. Yeah yeah, And this was this one was

not quite that impressive. It was on the Welsh coast, but it was like basically like a little flint stone's house, you know, with like slate walls and a slate roof, and that was just it was buried and eventually was excavated and then reburied, but there was they left a tunnel so you could walk inside it and see what. I don't think I've seen something on that one. Yeah, actually brings a bell. Yeah yeah. I I went to Stonehenge and the weird like stargazing huts. They can't totally

figure out what's going on there. And those are really old and they I think they kind of fit this category of like weird stonework from a prehistoric age. Well, and so you know, I mean, I obviously I've never been and seeing a chronic stone, but just like you, I've been to Stonehenge and it is amazing to see these giant, giant rocks. I mean, what is the rock of Stonehenge. You're five tons at least minimums, you know, if not ten or twenties, and you just gotta think weight.

This was before we really knew how to use a lot of complex systems and a bunch of guys figured out figured out how to howk these rocks up on time, and they didn't fall over. Yeah, they still haven't fall Yeah, and that's what's that's I mean, that's what's amazing with these carnex stones because they're also really really large, a lot of them, and yeah they are, and some of them have broken and fallen over, but most of them are still standing. That's wear and tear, it kind of expect.

It's not that they've actually like fallen because they've fallen out of their place, but they because they were poorly. Yeah, so it's impressive. Ancient man could do a lot of impressive stuff. You know, we we think of Asian man is ignorant and stupid, which I'm sure he was, but a lot of a lot of them were. But but it's just make stuff. Yeah, So anyway, let's let me I'll describe them a little bit more for our readers, who I'm sure but now I've already got out to

Google and they're looking at pictures right now. For those of you that haven't, let me describe them a little bit. There's three major alignments, um, and it appears when you look at the aerials and the maps and everything, it appears that they might most possibly were just one huge long alignment that was broken up by people stealing rocks for construction. Roads going through is another one of those that like there's no actual preservation of Yeah, it wasn't

for a long time. There is now there is because I actually went to the Karnak website that's run by the French government and it has visiting in hours and all that, but a lot of it is behind fences now and you can't actually walk into other roads through parts of this and stuff built like with the okay,

all right, yeah, I got it, Okay. You would think that that you would think that you'd be able to find some some big match in or castle nearby that's you know, obviously built from rocks stolen from and then if you go knock the castle down and take the rocks and put them back, maybe that's what it is that's my theory. I'm gonna go and say it right now. My theory is that it was a castle on that they were just like, screw the dude who lives here,

in the most obvious way possible. Yeah, and as acid the mysterious disappearance of the people that built this, What I think happened is I think that they did this and eventually time, you know, news traveled slowly and for

three thousand BC. I think eventually what happened is the Stonehengians got wind of this and tried to file a copyright infringement lawsuits that discovered discovered to their rage that lawyers didn't yet exist, and so they went over there and just slaughtered these people and burned their homes to the ground. What happened that that's what happened. Okay, Yeah, anyway, so I'll talk about the alignment. So the big things the medic alignments is eleven rows of men. Here's an men.

Here is a large standing stone for one point one six five kilometers. That's that's one thousand, sixty five by a hundred meters um. So that's that's a lot of rocks. Uh. And apparently there is that there appeared to be the remains of stone circles at either end of this room. Next after that comes to car Mario alignment, which is further to the east. Um. This is called the Camaro

House of the Dead. I love the name House of the Dead alignment uh one thousand, twenty nine stones in ten columns, about hundred meters in length, stone circles to the east end. Uh. Last of all the curl Scan alignment, smaller group of five hundred fifty stones further to still thirteen lines with the total length of about eight hundred meters. Oh, they talked about a little bitty group also the petty min Echo alignment, which is on Pettit and French means

little uh so nine month. The much smaller group further the east of curl Scan is actually they're actually in the woods and covered with moss and ivy and stuff. And then after that, besides that, there's a bunch of other artifacts. There's timuli, which is a proto tumulus, which is amount of earth built up and which essentially is

a burial mound for barrel barrel. There are dolmans are kind kind of like they're they're basically kind of like clint Stone houses um that were tumbes basically a big big square rocks stacked up with a big flat rocks and set on the top of it. And I don't know how many guys it takes the lift up one of those things that set it on top. I mean, getting the sides up wouldn't be that hard, but getting the roof on, that's that's pretty impressively. That's always a

big question, right is that? Like Okay, I guess I can see how they like made those stones vertical, but like it's those giant horizontal pieces on top that's standing standing a stone up right, you dig a big hole on me that you just roll it in, You roll it in and then your backfill. I can see that, But yeah, it's the it's the lifting up the big flat ones and putting them on top there still boggles me. It's although actually, actually I think I just figured it out.

You put up your walls, and then you and then you and then you fill it around, bill it around with dirt till till the dirt is level with the top of the walls, and then you roll the top up on logs and then you just pull the logs out from underneath. Then you dig the dirt away again. Okay, we figured that out. Yeah, because I was gonna say, I'm glad I came up with that, because otherwise I would have had to go though somewhere I hate to go, which is aliens. I like aliens for this, and I

want to talk about aliens later. You want to talk about later, we'll talk about our theories. Yeah, always do well. So anyway I saw, like I said, I feel free to go out to Google and look at some of the pictures and stuff of this. You should, because I mean, you know, it's hard to imagine. There's some pictures where there are people standing next to the rocks and you get a good scope of how big they are. What is the one, Joe, do you remember the name of

the one that? I mean? Somebody re erected it because it had fallen down, But it's the famous picture is always some little kid sitting at the bottom of it. And this thing is I don't know, thirty feet high. It's called it's called the money a giant or something like. It's yet a big honking rock. I don't know how deep into the ground it goes, either, it's got to be a long way down. Yeah, it's got to be going Yeah, it's gotta be going down at least what

ten feet? Yeah, at least. Yeah, they have to not fall over. So somebody had to dig dig a hole. That would be approval work. Yeah, somebody had to dig a hole. And then and then while the other guys okay, man, well you dig the hole, we're gonna go get the rock. So okay, since I'm the question asker of this, yes, my question right now when we're talking about description of it is what keeps these rocks from just being like rocks? Right? Like?

Are they just normal rocks? They're just like you found them anywhere or there any kind of like stone mason remarks or anything like that. Yeah, they definitely found marks, I mean marks of stonemasonry. Um, definitely, they found like they split the granite by drilling holes, and god knows how they did that. And then imagine they took a stick and just like just sort of rubbed it around like they know, like spun it around like about five

million times. And then and then we managed to bore a hole in there and then and then get in there with wedges and split the rock. But apparently these these people didn't know how I didn't know how to work stone. They don't knew how to break it, and we didn't we didn't figure out how to make iron. We didn't know how to make iron at that time. So I think, I mean, the best tools we had besides other stones was maybe brass. Yeah, I don't know. I don't even knows brass at that time. But brass

is super soft. It's the worst tool in the world. Not it really granted, is like a really hard rock, so and like a stick isn't really gonna So, you know, I guess that's a question. Yeah, I mean, because I've seen pictures of some of these rocks, and they've they've bored holes in the rocks in a line that eight and breaking these things and certain and god knows how they did that. I don't know. I mean, it's you know, maybe these people actually succeeded in creating steel, you know,

who knows? Yeah, you know, I guess We've talked about some stories where there's some evidence that maybe man knew how to work metal before we gave him credit for entirely possible to possible. Yeah. Yeah. One of the things I'll say about these is, even though there's evidence of stonework. They left a lot of this natural part of the rocks. And they didn't totally shape these rocks into like a

perfect rectangle or anything like that. They looked like they look like long rocks basically um in mostly in most cases, some of them are pointed, some of them were flat. Well, and I think that I swear that I saw something.

And tell me if you heard this or if I'm just making this up, Joe, But in these long swaths of all these pillars of rock, I swear I saw somewhere were not only were they in basically perfect rows, but they were they were level with each other, so that or was it level or were they stick They descend from one end to the other and in height, so especially so they decreased from end from one end and hight to the other end, and also side to side. Oh so the less side is the tallest and then

they get shorter as they go. Is that what I'm to understand? Yeah, and so, but you know, when you actually look at the pictures of them on the ground, it's kind of hard to see that pattern. But but again, part of this is because they're on rolling ground, So it's like it's so you have to like go out

and measure the rocks to really see. My own personal theory is that what happened is they started out small, and then and then and then the first rocks were the shortest ones, and those were the ones that they actually were capable of moving. And then as time went by, they figured out more effective ways to move rocks, and and so they started moving bigger rocks. And then you know, somebody else had another bright idea, and they were even

they were able to tackle even bigger rocks. And so by the time about by the time they wrapped it all up, they're putting up rocks that are high. So you know, if it was me, it would be the exact act opposite. I would I would overestimate how much work I could do, so they would start out really cool and tall, and as I started working along, I started getting lazier and lazier, and they would get shorter

and shorter because I didn't want to do so much work. Well, actually, this debunks one of the theories that I was tossing around talking about initially was that I thought maybe they were just gravestones. I think I read somewhere that they might have just been gravestones, but I think that it's suspicious that they would there would be such a solid down grade or down plane. You know that if they

were just gravestones, they would be like whatever side. They wouldn't be like while all the big ones are over here and all the ones are over here. Yeah, that's that, that makes sense. Yeah, I mean I was, I was thinking that they started at one end and then it's possible that they realized that they're running a little short

on rock. Maybe their corey was like, you know, not infinite, and they realized that that their quarry stone was not an infinite supply, and so they started putting up smaller ones. That's a possibility, yess. Yeah, but yeah, I guess if it was, if it was a graveyard and say they started at one end, then they would have been like, you know, modest sized rocks and then want some some big mucky muck dies and he would have gotten a really big rock and then and then after that they

go back to small one. But the great stones are one of the theories is and again I believe it was there was something somebody had said that because it's x number of stones, that there were x number of tribes, So every time the leader of that tribe died, they would put up a new stone. And so everybody came together as leaders died and continually put more and more up, not necessarily as a headstone, but a marker for that person.

So they would get bigger and bigger like the pyramids did, right because they were you know, well, I'm better than them, so when I die, then bill over there. The theory we're talking about this again named Manthuel Vega who wrote this theory that that was a necropolis for the leaders

of supposedly ten confederated tribes Neolithic tribes. And uh, there's no real basis for this nice theory and everything, but you know, I mean so basically he takes the fact that there are ten rows to mean while there must have been ten tribes and just goes from there. So it's it's entirely possible that I don't know, yes, since this is prehistoric, right, that you can kind of just say, well, there were this many tribes and they were totally altoge. You know, it's very easy to just you can just

kind of make it up as you go along. In my story world. This yeah, you know, an actually this, this gives me an idea. Though supposedly there were ten ten tribes and and so supposingly they all felt the need to make an offering to the gods every year, like once a growing season. So each tribe came out and came out to the spot and then put up a big gas stone. And they kept trying to outdo each other, which is why the stones kept going and

growing in size. So wait, okay, so are there ten different sites and each tribe had a site or apparently they have a common sight, but they're how many sites are there? Oh? We're talking about like if this whole thing was like one was one single thing. Yeah, oh I see, yeah, but we don't know. See that's the hard part is we don't know if they were supposed to be connected or if it was just disgroup. Did their's over here, you know, nobody knows. It's yeah, it

might have made it as you go along. It might have been that they left open spots because I knew that in the twentieth century somebody would want to put a road to there. You know, they were time travelers. Yeah, so we don't know if they spoke French. We don't anyway, so he let me let me run down at a real quick list of the theories for what they were. One is that they were pathways between temples, giant temples, which is sense disappeared. That's weird to me that well, yeah,

because where the where the temples go. Well, also it seems like a lot of work, Like I know that prehistoric like the societies of the past, and I guess, you know, to be fair, modern societies to put a lot of stock in their religious whatever, but you would think they would put more work into their places of worship usually, right, and the road up to that, yeah, well you know, I actually have an idea on that, which is if you think about a culture that is

based hundred years before the birth of Christ and somehow they know how to make stone, well they may be one of those cultures that is very um connected to nature's is the way I'm trying to say it almost like something like that, yes, or you know, the same way that the American Indians viewed it, and so their place of worship may not have been a construct as much of as an open space of nature to look at the stars and all of that, or like maybe it was like a labyrinth this is a thing of

Native American cultures. How you kind of celebrate as you have this, this labyrinths that you build out of stones, and how one of the ways you find this, like inner pieces, you go out to the forest where your labyrinth is and you walk your labyrinth a couple of times, and that's how you like celebrate your spirituality. So I guess that's possible that it is more about the journey than the destination, if you won't yeah something like that. I mean again, I'm I'm spitballing here, but I could

just see that everybody else's spitball Yeah. The path just seems weird. Yeah, that's fair alright. Well, so anyway, another theory is at their giant paper weights. I just made that one up. God the God. Uh there was there's one. There was one local legend that it was a leegion of Roman soldiers who were turned to stone, alternatively by Merlin the Magician or by God. Yeah, one or the other, because they were a miss of avalon about that one

points for anyone who knows that. So yeah, I guess the really really huge soldiers were out front and the really tiny ones weren't back are in the back, I guess, yeah, so they were chasing St. Cornelius and so they got their come up. And anyway, that's not really a scientific theory, that's just that's more of a local legend, that's an

urban legend. Yeah, let's be fair here. Uh. Some people have said that possibly could be some sort of astronomical observatory, something on the lines of Stonehenge and some other There's a lot of other ancient peoples in my background this time that build all kinds of astronomical, astronomically oriented structures, and it was to predict things like slips and stuff to keep track of the seasons, you know, seasons and

all that stuff. And possibly I don't know how you would use just to predicting the eclipse, but you know, I mean I'm not an astronopt and you know what I was just going to say, well, does it align with the stars anyway? And then I realized that, like that long ago different Yeah there were, and so okay, so that okay, yeah, there really isn't all that the one week spot I find in this theory. It's it's

always possible. That seems to be one of the leading reasons people did that kind of thing back in the days. But he wouldn't think they would need so many rocks, you know, I mean, just a handful of rocks would suffice. Yeah, I mean, like like Stonehange. I mean, if you were going to do a Stonehenge type of function, you don't need to have thousands and thousands of rocks to do it,

just a couple of big ones. Alternately, there are other, you know, ancient observatories around that are just like thousands and thousands of small like a man could feasibly pick that up with his two arms, right, it could be the difference between feet and meters. Though in the way that they did their their math, you never know they had a different system. Yeah. So anyway, the astronomical observatory, it's like the juris the jury is out on that one.

And again there's like there's no there's no predominant theory in this whole thing. Another one, this is this is one I considered to be kind of kind of weak, is that it was an ancient earthquake detector because yeah, and I'm sorry that that doesn't hold water explain what this is supposed to be. Yeah, So like if you see the if these things are out in the big field. If you see the rocks starting to starting to quiver and wave around a little bit, you know, then you

like it. But you could feel it by then, yeah, exactly exactly what about it is? So you got so you got somebody hanging out there, keep an eye on the earthquake detector, and so he sees it. He sees this happening, so he heads off, or maybe he sends people off to all the different villages to warn the impending earthquake, and of course, you know, by the time

they get there, the villages have been leveled. But when I when I read this theory, my initial thought was, oh, like dominoes, Yeah, all right, like the like the little one would like knock over and be like the first and they would just like knock each other over, and then like everybody would know there was an earthquake over there, and you know, the dominoes fall faster than the earthquake ship. But that's not you know actually that but you know

what that that gives me an idea. You know, maybe that's why they started making him shorter so they wouldn't knock each other over. Yeah, yeah, it's like, hey, you know, we just had to put those things back up, either space them a little further apart or make them shorter. Yeah. Another one. This is one to create a geomagnetic field. This is This is on a website, and this is like, I think a little silly, and so this is like

I'm just gonna read an excerpt from this. Okay. The people who built Carnac must have been highly knowledgeable with the Earth's energy fields. According to a concept noticing world grid theory, certain places on our planet contained higher magnetic forces than others. Yeah, I know, an interesting coincidence for all the megalithic structures where we have around the Earth are place at specific points that could be harnessing an ancient world energy grid. Uh. Yeah, anyway, let me skip

a little bit here. Energy feels different there. The ancient stone monuments were built to harness that force and that potential to create a funnel like vortex. Uh. And the combination of geomagnetic properties and the unique shapes of the stones themselves have allowed ancient builders to actually manipulate gravity. Yes, so where did this knowledge come from? You know about the Oregon wartax right? Yeah? Yeah, the mystery spot that's you know, an alignment of magnet of lines. I'm sorry,

I just learned about this recently. I you know, I've been a couple of times and like the first time it was whatever. But no, I this is apparently a predominant theory in like the vortex theory community right now, that like they're just areas that are like that, and that they'll make people sick. And oh, there's all kinds of great theories. Okay, so I have a question for you.

This also kicks into one of the theories, which is you were profiting, profiting and profering at the beginning about we don't know what happened to the people who lived there, and if I understand correctly, there's no there's no evidence left behind who they are or any any remains. Is

that right? Yeah? And uh, but apparently, uh, sea levels were a lot lower in those days, about thirty feet lowers, so any villages most probably most of their most of their villages would have been on the shoreline or near near the shore line, so they probably are underwater now. But you're still there's still you would think there'd be some structures up on the hills. Well, that's I think that's something I read those that based on how long

ago this was. I mean we're talking anywhere from what four to seven thousand years ago somewhere in that ballpark more than that, right, because it was three thousand, it would have been it would have been five thousand to

seven thousand something like that. Yeah, so a long time ago. Long. Well, the problem is is that even bones don't last that long, and so they break down and there's no evidence in what the barrows is that what they're called a lot of those, Yeah, they've gone into them and there's stuff, but there's no Well, the soil and the brittany is really acidic, right, Yeah, so it'll eat away at bones. Yeah, and if I suppose if it would, it would eat away and anything else too. Yeah, you know, so I

need any tools and anything like that. But although you think that things like say, if you had like arrowheads, spearheads, things like that, you would think that those things would I guess you know, the big question here is right that like, if they're using granite to build these big stones, they're probably using granite to build other things too, And they're you know, houses and whatever, and you know, maybe they're underwater, but you know that they probably still existed

somewhere or well, there might still be you know, somewhere out in the woods. There might be some old ancient villages that are just totally covered over with moss and rocks, and so they might be buried in the sea bed because silt and everything like knocking down. I mean you and you need to remember too that, you know, the romantic attraction of ancient ruins is a fairly recent thing

in human history. Yeah, I till a few hundred years ago, we basically dismantled all those things and they built our own houses. Yeah, nobody cared, so yeah, yeah, but it is interesting that these people came and went without without

a trace, you know. Anyway, another theory besides this geo magnetic field which aliens might use with you know, people get used to manipulate gravity or a could use this guidance systems to their spacecraft because they hadn't get invented invented the sexton apparently, and so they needed to use

these rocks to get their sophisticated spacecraft. So another another one is a random geological occurrence which these things were extruded from the Earth and perfect straight lines and I don't know, yeah, I feel like we've already just proved that, right wait wait, okay, So I just want to I just want to make sure I understand this. So when I was a kid and I was playing with Plato, there was the porky pine toy where you stuck the Plato into it and you squeezed and the Plato came

out and made the little quills. And that's what this theory is saying, is that the Earth just extruded him out up like he put through a calander or something. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not buying that one. Just make sure I understood what that. Yeah. Now, and again given the fact that there's markings indicating that these things were quarry and somewhat shape. Yeah,

what else? There's of course the alien angle. Uh. Somebody said pointed out that one of these, one of the layouts is in a rectangle, which is a three by four rectangle, and that's proportions three by four. I don't I don't remember what the three by four by five. Yeah, well the five is a diagonal between two corners, any two corners of it, which is that sounds like yeah,

perfect pagan triangle, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, And so that could be just an incredible coincidence, or maybe they had actually figured out some some things about geometry back in those days. And this is many years before the Pythagoras lived. It's a long time, a couple hundred years at least. Maybe you know, you never know, maybe he stole the idea from these guys. Yeah, yeah, so you know. And it's funny, is that the alien thing and the perfect triangles and

all the alignments. I did see something where somebody had said that they were basically aliens had told the ancient people how to a line at all, because that was the landing pad for their giant spaceship. Okay, okay, okay, so that's a little silly. But I do want to say that there are a lot of reports and in Okay, like you if you listen to the show, and you guys know me, and I'm generally not like an alien person, but I do think that there's a lot of historical

maybe evidence for aliens visiting Earth in ancient times. And you know, this is a thing that I think I'm just gonna do a whole show about at some point, so everybody stay tuned for that. But I think that, like I like ancient aliens a little bit for this that you know, I don't think for like a landing pad, so they could land like whatever, They could land anywhere, probably, right, But I do think that, you know, there's some miniscule like marble of a idea and the idea that you know,

aliens visited ancient civilizations. Well you should see you see the documentary Aliens Versus Predator. There's another documentary series called our Gate. Yeah, all of those. Yeah, yeah, so anyway, but anyway, so yeah, but the you know, another another variant on that is that you create a perfect sweet by four rectangle and then did the aliens tell them how to do it? And and and then they do it, and the aliens saying, well, we left our calling cards.

Sooner or later, somebody's going to figure out that, hey, don primative people couldn't have figured this out, must be aliens. But of course, at that point, really is why, you know, are they just trying to tweak us? Um? I mean? Because so what I mean, I mean you need to leave us like a walkie talkie so you can actually get on the horn with you and talk to you. Okay, Yeah, that's another little tidbit of my like whole big theories like maybe they intended to come back, yeah, and maybe

they will. Um, you never know. Is this that Jodie Foster movie Contact? Is that what we're doing here? Now? We're not doing that. The aliens done, I've done what you know what? I think we have gone over all of all of them. We're talking about the Road of the Temples and necropolis and astronomical observatory, earthquake detector, geomagnetic field to harness, magic energy and defied gravity, echine aliens

and echine aliens and random geological currencies. This, this, to the best of my knowledge, sums up all of the possible explanations. To me, the necropolis idea sounds the most compelling, although his whole theory about ten confederated Neolithic tribes that's

a little weak. So okay, wait, so can somebody explain to me they go and they descend in height, right, Is there like a center point like that's the highest and they descend outwards or is that just the corner They go from one corner down to the other corner of the opposite opposite diagonal. So okay, so imagine that. Sorry, there's directangle in front of you. Right, let's just say that we've got a we'll just do this north, south, east, and west. Just make it easy so everybody can follow along.

So the north west corner has the tallest stone, the southeast corner has the shortest stone. So from north to east they slope down, and from north to south they slope down, so they make a general gradation in that direction. What about if we're going to assume this is one big giant thing, like there's something still buried under the ground. No, no, no, I mean like if this is meant to be, like if all of the different sites interconnected all the same thing.

Does that pattern hold true throughout the whole thing? Is there like one that's in the center that's much taller? Do we know? Even I don't. I don't know. It's it's it's really hard to say it to you because quite a few of the stones have been removed at various points, and and a lot and they haven't been carefully guarded. They've been there for thousands of years, so and like I said, it's only very recently in history that we've got this idea that we should preserve stuff

like this so there's roads through them. It's notoriously to make the what is the stones that were stacked up into a grave? Would you call that again? All the men here or without the dirt on the dirt on top? That is, so the dolmans are have been used as chicken coops and places to keep your sheep when it rains. Got it? Okay, So they haven't been treated well. I was going to say, if they were like just lines

that come towards like a center meeting point. What if they were the tribes coming together and like making like small offerings and bigger and bigger and bigger every time, and they meet in the middle and they have their biggest offering of stones to each other. But that theory doesn't hold. I just felt like I needed to share it. Yeah, I would. Any of all theories are appreciated. So who the heck knows? So Joe likes the acropolis theory, Yeah,

I I go with the tribes. I don't think that it was necessarily X number of tribes, but I think they are grave markers. It seems to make the most sense to me. It's definitely not seismic. I mean I like Aliens definitely. No, I think you know Aliens was standing. I think that yeah, grave marker, not grave markers, but

death markers monuments. That makes sense, Yeah, I think, yeah, I think if aliens aliens, we're not involved with it, they would have like you know, brought up a cool lasery, rock cutting tools and in a beautiful, beautiful, perfect key stuff that exist in other historic Yeah. Well with those, well yeah, that's for another show. Okay. So anyway, Um, so I guess that I concludes our presentation with Unfortunately this is probably the first time we haven't solved the mystery.

Yeah we haven't. I thought we did. It was aliens. Yeah, okay, so before we go, before I started reading off all that stuff about our website and everything else, and please send us money, uh, we're gonna do. We're gonna deal with a little bit of reader mail. As you know,

we're pretty much inundated. So what we do is we just every now and again, we randomly grab a message off the top of the pile to read you guys, And that way, whoever wrote the message to us gets this thrill of knowing that his name is mentioned on our web part podcast. So, Steve, would you like to read this email? Yeah, yeah, I'll do the honors today. So we've got an email here from Andrew. Andrew said

he discovered our podcast this morning. He had listened to all of them already while he was driving to work. Really drives, that's all. That's a lot of Holy Mac. Evidently he drives for a living, is what it sounds. So he did. He did suggest a couple of topics for us, which is awesome. We we love it when people do that. One of them was the lost Colony of Roanoke, which is actually one that I've had on my list to look into, which is so funny because

I feel like it's so pointless to do. It's interesting, it's interesting. And then the other one is, uh, the diet toll of past incident. Does that? I think that's the one I'm thinking about. That's the one where some some some skiers one way up into the mountains in Russia somewhere and okay, yeah, bodies where bodies are found like wearing only underwear and yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah, alright, I've heard obviously that one's a really good probably gonna

do that. Thanks for bringing that up. Uh, and yeah, he says, you know, he knows that they're they're well known ones, but he wanted to hear our theories and opinions on them, and we'll we'll put them on the docket. So here's here's the reason that I I chose this one to say because it's it really it's it's kind of what our drive was when we that. Uh, and I'm just gonna read it read from the email, he says, again,

I thoroughly enjoyed the podcast on the website. It's refreshing to listen to three intelligent people discuss these topics in a logical, informative kind of way that steers away from the kookie theatrical, embellished way of storytelling. Unfortunately, that seems to have become the norm when discussing conspiracy theories, unsolved mysteries, whatnot. So anyways, from one sideways thinker to another, keep up the good work. That's what we've got from it. So, Hey, Andrew,

thanks a lot, thought appreciate you. Sorry, we apparently probably can't keep up with the demand that you have. We're actually we're actually looking for a couple of interns to read the mail. So if you would like to apply. Yeahs O, that was that was listener mail. So how can people get a hold of his show? How can they get a hold of this c phone email? Well, they could email us the US jump on this. They could email us at Thinking Sideways Podcast at gmail dot com.

That's one which is a great way. Um. And then we also have a website which is just Thinking Sideways podcast dot com. You can leave us a comment which somebody left as a comment earlier, which was pretty great. I got a chance to respond, which was nice and it proved me right and you guys wrong. So, but you guys are probably has then that's fine. I have not yet read that comment, so I'm not I can't comment on the comment. Yeah, I know. I usually let

the interns deal with that. No, but you know, those are two really great ways to get ahold of. Yeah, we love to hear from you folks. So if you've got if you've got thoughts, anything like that, go ahead and let us know. Yeah, if you you know, if that doesn't work right and out tied to a brick, throw out to our window if you can find our window, but you know, you any random window. Yeah, go to Brittany. Do you face one of the rocks? No? Yeah, stop

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