Thinking Sideways BONUS: The Bumble

story is, it is internally sourced. Okay, all right. Uh And as always, little ears warning and all that stuff you're you're gonna hear graphic talk is scary things and so yeah, if you're scared of that stuff, then you know we're not going to ruin Christmas. Yeah maybe. Alright, So for this year, we're gonna talk about the mystery of the Bumble, also known as the Abominable Snowman. Yeah, you know, and you know about this guy from Rudolph

the Red Nose Reindeer. We talked about that before the special that's been on forever, I mean for like the last fifty years. I think something like that, actually more than fifty years three. Yes, yeah, yeah, I actually I've been told that was not claymation. It was some sort of cloth animation thing, stop motion animation. It just stop motion animation. But apparently it wasn't It wasn't clay. It was something other than some other medium, I don't know,

some kind of fuzzy material. Well, well, do an episode about that next year. What did they use the world's shortest episode? Yeah, exactly. And the box it was all kept in has vanished. I mean, so what are they hiding? Uh yeah, okay, but back to the bumble? Um? Okay, we each have our our own theory about about the bumble? Uh you know, was he real? Where did you come from?

That kind of thing? We're gonna talk about those, um and of course, naturally there's some disagreements here, so we're gonna have to like all present our sides and then we'll hash it all off the end of side. Who's right and who's wrong? Yeah, Joe's never wrong. Alright, here we go. So let me jump in with my ideas here, well not ideas, actually this is well documented, so my my documented history of the bubble. Uh well, Okay, leading off,

you know, big big picture. First, almost every human society on the planet has a legend about some kind of huge hair man like creature that lives way out of the sticks named Steve. Yeah. Yeah, listen, it's a beard. It doesn't make me a giant monster. Actually, if not Harry all over, but I'm not gonna ask you to take your shirt off, keep it on. But if your Hairry all over, then yeah, you're one of these guys. Uh. Well, anyway, but they are these these these things live in the sticks.

No one ever sees them because well, the people that do get killed right away. Uh. And they've had they've had their different names, like the American Indians had the Sasquatch, which you guys have heard of, and the him Aliens had the Yettie. White people had the Hookies from Star Wars. Uh and true. Yeah, and as you know, the hookies were eventually civilized and allowed to have guns, some of them. Yeah. And and of course, as you know, the Wookies had

nothing to do with the Sasquatch or the Yettie. No interbreeding there, no, no, not at all. They're not based on that. The wookie Lei legend is actually based on the Cookie Monster from Sesame Street. But where does the cookie monster legend come from? Doesn't come from the Eddie. Believe it or not, I know it doesn't. So okay, well we go back. We're gonna we're gonna take this all apart so you can all understand how it works.

But even though everybody seems to think they are the same thing, there's actually no relationship between the Abominable Snowman and the Eddie, which I know everybody thinks they're the same thing. But actually, uh, if you don't believe me, go to Nepal. Ask anyone on the street if they've heard of the Abominable Snowman, and you will not hear a single Yes, they have not heard of this guy. All right, so we'll talk about that later. Yeah, where

did the Abominable Snowman legend come from? This may be hard to accept, but somebody made it up. I know. I can hear your heads exploding. But stay with me for a minute. We're gonna unravel this. It all goes back to nine three, the year before Rudolph came out, and uh, it was a bad year. All kinds of bad things happened. Student Baker car company went out of business.

The USS Thresher nuclear submarine was lost at sea with all hands and nobody still knows why exact For sure, the Pope died, Johnny Depp was born, ZIP codes were introduced when we're still dealing with that, right, Yeah, And most famously of all, nineteen sixty three is known as the year that the lava lamp was invented. Yeah, the lava lamp. Yeah, from the northeast. I didn't need yeah, yeah,

but yeah. I was actually kind of surprised because in researching destroy I did a survey of momentius things that happened in nineteen sixty three, and yeah, that was one of them. I had no idea. I thought the lava lamp was like later. But I cannot with your pronunciation of that word, but it you know, of course, I live on the West coast, you know, so maybe it started on the East coast and sort of spread westwards some of the time. I you know, I found one

in my home. That was a lot later than that. You went into the lavatory and found the lava lamp. Yeah, yeah, the lava lamp was I don't know. My parents got sooner or later somebody gave it to him. I think, Yeah, it's one of those things that nobody ever seems to buy. People always give. I mean, you have a Lava Lampton show, I have a giant one. Yeah, and didn't somebody give that to Yeah? I know exactly where it came from. Yeah, exactly, but nobody ever buys them themselves, or at least admits

to it. Yeah. Anyway, the year it was a rough year for America, and so the exact that the CBS TV News network decided the country needed a little bucking up right, and they sided the American people needed a

hero to rally around and to rally their spirits. So they tasked their writers with creating this hero, and the writers basically took a week reindeer with poor social skills and a criminal record and tried to turn them into Rambo for an animated special for the following Christmas season, you guys, And that's how that's where we all came from. We've already talked about the special and the disparity between fictional Routolf and the real Rutolf, and they took some liberties,

as we all know. They started putting this special together, and of course they totally remade route Doll's character, made him a lot better than he actually was. But they left out one important thing, which is Jeopardy, right, you got the game show exactly, I know, I know, no peril danger. Oh I thought it was. That's here every time you talk. Okay, I'll take left lame mythical creatures for a hundred um. But we're talking about there's always

gotta be a hitch. Just's gotta be some sort of thing, you know, like the melting down nuclear reactor or more likely the super villain. And so this is this is a person who always makes it looks like the entire enterprise may may just fall apart in our heroes. Who knows, might even die like the Postman from all of the other Reindeer. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Bob, I like it. Great name. That's not his name, that's what he says. I'm sorry. Okay, clearly you've never seen it. I have

not seen it. But it's a great name. But uh so they had to come up with something, and they had to create a charifying villain who looked like he was going to destroy the whole thing. But the problem is is it's set in Christmas Town, which doesn't have any real psycho criminals. I mean, and other than you know, I mean, Rudolph was actually the biggest criminal in Christmas Town history. But and sure, the other reindeer they were

kind of jerks to to Rudolph, that's absolutely true. But that's a long way from being a Bond supervillain or a dark lord or something. Right, so they could make up something like a twisted serial killer Elf, the one on the shelf, Yeah, Santa's evil twin, or maybe this is scary as hell, Santa's ex fiance showing up and murdering Mrs Claus and and then wiring all the toy factors with cbore and taking the els hostage. This is Christmas, what are you doing? Well? Yeah, And so obviously none

of these really went over well with the networks. They did treat with some a few things, like the extnance. A plot had Rudolph armed with only a service automatic and fifteen rounds of AMMO, crawling around air ducks and Elvin nick Neck complex their Team four in the Psycho exit saving Christmas, although there was a lot of eleven collateral damage and it's just not appropriate. No, that's that's

how the Network felt about that. They really hated the whole idea, you know, especially the idea of a reindeer shooting and blowing up Christmas Town. So they just said, come on to use an animal or something to how about wolves and but of course wolves won't do because wolves live down around the Arctic Circle and below right, Yeah, yeah, Well how about polar bears and so no, polar bears don't live you know, they live in the periphery of

the Arctic. True, they don't actually live at the North Pole. Ain't no polar bears up there, despite the name, which is very misleading. That's very true. Polar bears would live at the pole. But no they don't. They sure as hell don't. Why would anybody live at the pole. That's the thing. There's nothing to eat up there. Reindeers yeah, and and candy, yeah, and candy. And you know, ye elves are tasty. Elves are like behind the wall though well they have yeah, now we'll get into that some

future one style wall. Yeah thing uh. And so they decided they needed to make something up the problem of courses. Are people gonna believe that there's some huge, scary, demonic creature living on the ice at the North Pole with no visible means of support, a little bit of a stretch. Right, this is a creature that lives right here, and mother, nobody's ever seen it or heard it before. I mean,

it's it's ridiculous. Nobody's seen the cracking, at least not that I know of, but at least we've all heard of it before, right, Yeah, And and it lives in a place that credibly could support life, not which is not the North Pole. And the writers came up with a solution, which is, we'll just pretend like this badass creature has always existed, even though nobody ever actually heard of it until five minutes ago. We'll claim it's a nation legend from a tiny country like halfway around the

world that no one's ever heard of. And thus they created this foil for Rudolph, and the abominable Snowman legend was born. Yeah, or the Bumble, based of course on the humanly and yetti, but really total b Yes, it was not at all related to her, based on the yetting, but they pretended that it was. And by pretending that it was based on this ancient crypto from halfway around the world, CBS was insulated from charges of lameness. Yeah,

the worst charge anybody could ever levy against a network blameness. Yes, And the story gets bigger. The US government became aware of this project, mostly because the FBI was bugging all the major networks because they kicked out of listening in and all the sexual harassment that was going on. And never coincidentally, they only the government that is, had only recently gotten winto the fact that the human historical record had been falsified and that the twentieth century was actually

the seventeenth century. This is a thing that you guys may be aware of. You heard of the phantom time hypothesis, which is a real thing. Uh, somebody away back when like a pope, the Holy Roman Emperor some other people conspired centuries ago to basically fake three centuries of history and plug it into the record. And the U. S Government, having found this out, was wondering how to undo this fraud without totally messing with everybody's heads. Right, And you know,

like I said, this is not made up. This is for real, it's on the internet, it's real. Three centuries of human history just made up, wasn't it? Because like the emperor wanted to. He was really it was important to him that he'd be ruling over like a certain century. You wanted to be like Anno Domingo one thousand, you know, and not like like seven hundred, which is not nearly as cool as one. So he was just like, yeah, throw it on. There's why all of the best devices

are the one thousand model. Oh you've got the iPhone five hundred. I've got the iPhone one thousand. Sounds such so much better. Cannot wait. It's also why they skipped over it's you know, the iPhone XE, the iPhone X which means tenn like because nobody cares. They just always wanted to use a single character one of the two anyway, Sorry, just to uh well, as so as you know, the government found out about about the Abominable Snowman fraud, they took a lot of interest in that, and they actually

provided some funding and technical expertise to the project. And after Rudolph aired in like late nineteen sixty four, the government spent millions doing polling and research which confirmed the public had completely bought into all the entire Abominable snow nbs. They totally believed that this there was this creature based on them and getting and that everybody had always known about this, even though, like I said, nobody knew about it until five minutes ago. Hold out manly in the

university faculties. These guys were spirited away to re education camps and quietly replaced with nineteen sixties radical students. He really loves re education camps. He's only threatened them to send us to. Yes, he really is. I was just gonna say that I think that everybody bought it because it was one of those things where you know, like when you go see an art exhibit and you're like, I don't it's dumb, like, and everyone's like it's genius,

it's amazing, and you're like, oh, yeah, it's genius. It's amazing. But it turns out everybody's saying it's genius because they just don't get it and they don't want to look dumb. That's why the entire population was like, yeah, of course they bump because they were like, I must be the only person in this entire place that doesn't know what bumble is, so that, of course it is kind of human nature to do. Yeah, nobody wants to be not in with the in crowd, right, it's absolutely true. Yeah,

uh huh. And that's why, by the way, if you want to be with the in crowd, you would listen to Thinking Sideways. Yeah yeah, and tell all your friends too. It's like, hey, you don't want to be a dork. Yeah, everybody doing it? Okay, but so much for commercials. Back to this, back to Rudolph and and the Bumble the bumble. So the rest is history. Everybody believes this bs and that the few people who don't believe it, while they refraid from saying so because they don't want to be

called anti Christmas. Nobody wants to be anti Christmas. And of course, as we all know, the Abominable Snowman legend eventually would give rise to the Cookie Monster myth, and then later on to the Wookie legend, which leases the Star Wars, and of course the government operation Operate and white that was born. I think White That wasn't better about the same time. Yeah, it's about correcting and correcting

that typewritten history. I guess. So White Out makes sense, But the government has undertaken it's still going on as far as I know to this day. It's a gradual rewriting of history based about a year at a time. It has gotten a bit bogged down in memo writing and beer credit and fighting, but apparently it's still it's still going on. If you call the FBI and ask them about it, of course they'll pretend not to know anything. Be persistent, keep calling back, you know, yeah, eventually they'll

give you. You know, you know you're getting through when they come to your house. That's how you know you're getting there. Totally. Yeah, Bob barred them with FOIA requests to But but the success of the the government project could be measured, at least in part by the fact that reality does seem to have become kind of an

optional idea for quite a few people. But historically speaking, the ratifications are without Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, we wouldn't have gotten this operational white out leading to the correction of human history. And we wouldn't have got all those cool university professors with cool new ideas. And we also wouldn't have gotten Star Wars. Or maybe we would

have gotten it without a Wookie, maybe a talking raccoon instead. Well, I don't know, it's it's absurd, but you know, really it actually makes a little more sense than a huge, hairy, demonic creature living at the North Pole. Yeah. I think that's what I think. So that's what it is. Is. Not only does it not, the Abominable Snowman never exists. He was never even actually a legend. Believe it or not, he was. It was a basically a legend created out

of whole cloth. Yeah. Well, I will say that you are correct in that last statement, but I think the rest of that is just total hockey horse hockey, to be specific, hockey horse hockey was horse hockey hockey like horse grenades, horse apples. I don't know, you're making stuff up. Yeah, well, I'm trying to do what Joe did. Make stuff up. Okay,

I made nothing up up. No, listen, The truth of the matter is is that the story of the Bumble, and based on the research I've done, the entire thing is actually an allegory for the Daniard for the dangers of unionization, and it was all created by Robert F. Kennedy. Okay, conveniently he plays he blames somebody who's dead whose brain went missing. Run Kennedy. Listen here, let me let me

break this down for you. Okay, So, as you know, we've talked about that cute nine Rudolf the Red Nose Reindeer movie, but it is truly about the dangers of unionization, and honestly, the Bumble, the poor Bumble, is really just a scapegoat that's creators used to spread their message. Okay, it's the truth about the Bumble is actually really simple and really sad, and like I said, he was the

target of a Kennedy And here's why. Because the story from the outside, Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, it seemed cute and it's hit about him leaving home and growing up and then returning one day to try and help everybody. But if you ever watch the characters and you really listen to some of the other characters, you'll pick up on what's going on. So let's start with one of the side characters. That's the other characters, Hermie, the Elf,

the best Elf. When we first meet Hermie, he's he's working away like all the other else, but he's dissatisfied with his job and he wants to do something different. Specifically, he wants to be a dentist. I mean, that's what he tells the elf Foreman and of course the foreman tells him that you can't do that, So to retaliate, he skips choir practice. He did, he did. He skips Elvin choir practice, which throws off the entire tune so much so that Santa walks out of the room in disgust.

And instead, what is Hermie doing. He's quote unquote practicing dentis street. He's practicing on a doll. Animal like any other serial killer. He's practicing on a doll. But his form of dentistry involves using a hammer on a poor doll's teeth, which is actually really kind of barbaric talking about he's really cheap though. He also work in a back alley. Here works in a trailer, not a back alley. Is the trailer parked in alley? Okay, um, let's see

what els okay. So then there's the first encounter between Hermie and Rudolph. Hermie of course, Deil's Rudolph that he's a dentist and that he's an independent dentist, which is not true. He's actually an employee of Santa. He works like all the other Elves, So he's there's already some fibbing going on. People that are actors that l a that are active, but they're waiting tables something like that,

you know. I mean, he's he's happily part of an unorganized workforce that is all very very happy in being so um right, yeah, exactly. At this point, you know, after this initial meeting, Hermie convinces Rudolph that they have to leave the safety of Christmas Town a k a. Leaving the safety of their secure employment, and they go

out into the wide world. And this is where the writers begin their creative slander, because this is when they first meet the Bumble, and he chases and threatens them, and they barely get away if we keep going on in the story though. They then the next day, Hermie and Rudolph meet Yukon Cornelius, and Cornelius says, hey, I'm the greatest prospector in the North, which prospector makes me think maybe that's a euphemism for a job title in the unions. Maybe I think he was a drug pusher

or something. But he's of gold. Well, that's the thing that he's obsessed with, finding gold and silver, which is really convenient for him to have met Hermie, a guy who wants to be a dentist and dentist used gold and silver when they work on teeth a lot, so that's a funny coincidence to me. But at this point again there of course chased by the Bumble and they barely escape. Again here you see see what's going on here. They're making the Bumble out to be the big, bad,

scary monster. Maybe really wasn't just misunderstood. So at this point, you know, then the story goes on. Rudolf runs away and then they come back and they go to help Cornelius and Hermie show up just in time to help Root off with a little stuff offer by the way at the right. So yeah, I'm just I'm moving this forward rather than telling the whole story of the movie

because these are the important deed als. Is that during the confrontation when Cornelius and Hermie save everybody, Hermie, after the Bumble has been knocked out, pulls all of his teeth out of his head. He's taking the teeth out of the bumble. And have you ever heard that phrase taking the teeth out of something? You're making it harmless. Okay, So here's where everything comes out and who these characters

really represent. So we've got Hermie and Rudolph, and they are just your average everyday American worker who are happily going to their job and their employers happily protecting them without anybody else's intervention. We've got yukon Cornelius. He's not actually a traditional prospector, but like I said, he's more of a union organizer. And then, well, who did who

did Cornelius work for? Well, if you watch the movie, Cornelius knows an awful lot about the Bumble, and that's because in reality they worked together, they were on the same team. So have you have you put it together yet? Do you know who these characters are all representing? Have you have you figured out who the Bumble is yet? No?

Jimmy Hoffa, here's the deal. Jimmy Hoffa in nineteen sixty four was convicted for jury tampering and four years Robert F. Kennedy had been after him to send Haffa to jail. He hated Haffa. So this whole story is Robert F. Kennedy's victory. He wanted to document this, but he obviously couldn't just do it straight. He had to, you know, put it inside of a child friendly movie. And this conviction would pull the teeth out of Haffa, who was

in control of the Teamsters union. You following so far, Yeah, now get this. You know, Kennedy went one step further and he actually inserted himself into the movie as the character Sam the Snowman, because he's telling all of everything that's going on. But here's one funny thing that Sam does is that at the you know that, just at that culmination of the big confrontation between everybody in the bumble, he says, and I sent Cornelius and Hermie over there,

something to that effect. Now, wait, why why would why would he be involved unless he was orchestrating it, much like Kennedy was trying to orchestrate politics and the court system at the time. So what I'm telling you here is this is all a Muys propaganda. Yes it is. That's the word, thank you. It's propaganda. The whole thing is propaganda on the part of Kennedy because he hated hated off of so much. And nobody has figured this out. I mean, I founded by piece and a bunch of

stuff together. Makes what actually does this sort of like I think lent a little credence to this, is that one of one of rfk's biggest regrets is that he could not play the guitar and sing. And you noticed that he created a character that could, you know, because that was his secret dream. He didn't want to actually be attorney general. Yeah, he actually wanted to be a folk singer. He wanted to be like, you know, like Django of the pan flute. So at Roger Whittaker that

that was his dream, you know. Insteady was sucked with this crappy lawyer job and washing exactly, so he had to do something. He had to take that anger out on somebody either stretching stretching, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to be the party pooper here, but are you going to be as sheeple and not see the truth? This this this frost covered truth. I'm just I just know that Bumble is real, real Bumble is real, but he's actually just a bear. Yeah yeah, So like let's

just we'll just hear this out. And I am really sorry to be the party pooper here. I came up with this theory after observing the documentary Ski Free about skiers on alpine hills competing to finish full runs of either Free Skiing slalom or tree slalom and um often after the most successful documented run what was later identified as a Yeti a k a. The Abominable Snowman, which we will talk about in a second. Was they're chasing the skiers. So that's the reason that they were skiing.

It wasn't that they were competing, it's because they were fleeing for their lives. No, they were skiing, that they were competing, but just having to pop out of the brush and go after them for a bit. Yeah. So just got me thinking, we have documents. It's not important snowy mountains all around the world. Uh. And this got me thinking that we do have documented proof of a Yeti chasing a skier. This this documentary. What else do we have that chases skiers? And we have proof of that.

Bears beats Battlestar Electica uh her speed sets collecting. This is not to be confused with a video that surfaced I think last year called snowboard or Girl Chased by Bear, where a girl filming herself with a selfie stick while snowboarding down the hill listening to Rihanna through really big headphones, which that seems like a bad idea. Being with the giant headphones. Wearing giant headphones and walking around in them is really a bad idea anywhere, even your own office,

You're likely to get clobbered by h wall. Plus it looks kind of stupid, and well, no, you look like a cyberman, so that's kind of did you wind up with the with a selfie stick like rammed down her throat? But she spilming herself with a selfie sticks snowboarding down the hill, um, and she like pans around and you can see there's a bear chasing her. This was proven to be a hoax, however, and if you need proof just google it. I do not have time to cover

it right now. This is too important. I just love the idea that if it had been real, it's like, oh, there's a bear. Screw you bear. I think you don't think, you know? With the selfie stick like oftentimes, she wasn't like looking. She was going down the hill, so she panned around and you see the bear kind of behind her,

and then it doesn't matter anyway, it's a um. What I do know is there's real, verified tales of bears chasing people who are skiing on one such cautionary tale can be found in none other than the national geographic magazine This is Real, and this particular issue it covers the story of a guy named Matt mole Star. Now, Matt is a season skier and he was skiing in Glacier National Monument when he was attacked by two giant

grizzly bears. One was an almost full sized cub and his mom was the other bear, and Matt described her as freight train sized. Actual war In that position, they probably look extra huge, and I think so, yeah, I bet they do. Anything that comes at me like that with their arms in the air is always looks giants

of a building. Ye yeah, yeah. So he and his friends seemed to have gotten away by sheer luck alone, But there are a lot of other harrowing tales of people who have been chased by bears while skiing, like that movie with Layonardo DiCaprio. Um, well he was, he was skiing, Well, he was skiing, but without the skis there really wasn't any snow on the ground at that. Yeah no, but still, yeah he got the bear treatment.

He did. He did us. So there are a lot more cases of people being chased by yettis however, but what if somebody had managed to get some hair from Yetti? Would that change anything? Do you think? Actually? That would probably advance the cause of the scientific knowledge. Would be

exciting about that? Yeah, I think it would. And lucky for us people do have hair or better, yet, other remains of these yetis from Yeti's back way back in the day, right and there They've been around for hundreds of years in some cases some of them, Yeah, but some of them have been collected more recently by teams out doing documentaries on skiers who were being attacked or other possible sightings of Yeti's not yet what Yeah, Yetti again? Um?

So these remains um. Some of them had been hidden in monasteries or held by shaman's um but finally shamans okay, yeah, um. We were able to test them. Me, I did the testing me, but an evolutionary biologist at the state uh State University of New York and Buffalo did test them. And guess what she found. She tested nine of these samples and they all were hair. Eight of them were from bears native to the area, and one was a dog.

Huh where was she based out of? She's out of Buffalo, but they were bears native to the areas where the remains were okay, buffalo and that double check. They set the samples onto the FBI haired lab and they they lost them. Now they positively correlated them to take Kazinski. Yeah, yeah, Now we think of um, I'm sorry, the bears were Himalayan brown bears. What we think of traditional bumble as

being white. Um, But apparently in the traditional Himalayan lore, which is the actual lore where bumble came from, he's covered in shaggy reddish brown or gray fur and ways about two hundred four hundred pounds, which is for you uneducated swine, and accounts make it anywhere from five to nine ft tall. Does that sound familiar the bumble train size. Yeah, that's a short bumble five foot Yeah, that's a baby bumble, Like a baby bumble is a pet. I don't think

he would. That's just big enough for me to get scared. Probably, well, I just want to five foot bud just stayed at five foot, yeah, pretty much, to be fair, especially when the five foot is actually two hundred pounds. Yeah, to be fair. There, this is a different conclusion than um. Primary researchers came to Um. The first researcher was named Charlotte Lindquest, but she was and she was the one that said that it was Emily and brown bear. And an earlier researcher, I don't know, is old an old

dog hundreds of years old. An earlier researcher named Brian Sykes came to a different conclusion, and his was based on a jawbone. I don't know where the jaw bone came from, presumably the shaman or something like, I know

where it came from, a jaw of a bumble. Yeah. Um. But he found a hundred percent match with a sample from an ancient polar bear jaw bone that was found in Norway that dates back some forty thousand to a hundred and twenty thousand years ago, a time when polar bears closely related to brown bears were interbreeding a lot. But they were kind of at that point, they were kind of separating out a bit too. They were separating out, but if they had common areas that they were territories,

they were, Yeah, they were interbreeding. Now when we think about it, Um, the name is actually the best proof in nineteen and this is my proof to cement the fact that yetti and bumble and the abominable soul man excuse me, use the technical term here, or actually the

same thing, and yetis are actually bears ready? In UH nineteen one, and Indian English language newspaper interviewed some explorers that were UM returning from UH Mount Everest expedition that was it was the British Mount Everest Reconnaissance Expedition UM and they were one of the first people to report these big footprints in the snow, and their guide, who was a native to the Himalayan area, had attributed them to the mito kang bi kang kang me excuse me,

kng me translates to snowman and mito to bear man or man bear. The writer of this piece got about half of that translation but misinterpreted uh mito which is man bear too filthy? Oh, I thought that was gonna be carrot knows no, So instead of writing filthy snowman, he was like, Oh, I'm going to write the abominable snowman, filthy snowman. What about frosty snowman and filthy and frosty sound a lot closer, Yeah, fosh frosts. So they actually

have a Frosty the snowman legend in the Himalayas. No, they have a man bear snowman legend, which is just like a white bear that's big, really really raunchy jokes. But you know, filthy is a misinterpretation. Yeah, and so so at the abominable snowman, as I said, never existed in Nepaul. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, except for it was the eddy. It was just a misinterpretation of man bear of man bear, man bey, Oh, man man bear, man bear snowman. No, man man bear. Yeah that rolls right

off the yea, sure it does. But basically the name is like, hey, it's a big bear, that's white bear. Yeah. But I still and as I said, we talked some about this in previous episodes about I had never totally totally discounted the possibilities some of these native storytellers have actually had a little fun at the white Man's expanse from time to time. You know, maybe they want out ahead of time and made some huge footprints of the snow just to mess with their heads, and then they

kept across Oh yeah, that abominable snowman dude. Except for they were actually just saying that yetti guy, and the yetti we have proven, we have solid evidence, is actually just a bear. So I'm sorry, but Bumble is just a bear. Bumble Bear, It's just a bear who tells really bad jokes. Yeah, it's filthy, you're the one. I haven't said a filthy thing yet today. If you want,

I can start right. Oh wait, no, it would be filthy. Yeah, well that doesn't quite, that doesn't totally contradict my thesis, which is that the Bumble and the Yeddie maybe excuse me who the Himallean brown bear and the Yettie may very well be the same thing. They are. Yeah, but the whole and by the way, the Himilean brown bear they're very cute. They're fuzzy, they are they're really shaggy,

Yeah they are, but the whole. The origin of the Abominable Snowman can be traced to this one as a name can be traced to this one article, from which means that it's just all. This is where you're wrong. Is that CBS and the US government we're way ahead of you there. I mean, they went back and back dated the text. This I'm telling you, this is this is all a Kennedy concoction. It's all blamed on the Kennedy. I think we're going to have to agree to disagree.

It's always the Kennedy's. Alright, well, it'd been the Christmas season at all. I can tell what this is heading. We're all going to like just basically going to become a fist fight. So we just have to agree to disagree. You mean a normal family Christmas where we get drunk

and brawl. Yeah, that's a normal Christmas for everybody's pulling out a switch blade and I'm tired of getting carved up, frankly, So we are everybody exactly cut a little bit short, and I want to lead all of our listeners with something special, which is, um, I'm gonna grab my guitar and I'm gonna sing you a song, a road live song from the Special Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeers. So you guys ready, yeah, yeah, let me let me just hit record real quick. Okay, here we go