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Sharri | 5 November

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It is officially election day in the US and Miranda Devine joins the show to slam the media coverage of Trump, which she says is worse than the last election. Plus, concerns already of potential voter fraud in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1

Why on Sky News Bits and Sharry Good Evening.

Speaker 2

Welcome.

Speaker 3

It's now officially November five, Election Day in the United States. It's just gone four am on the East coast, one am on the West. Voting will get underway in a couple of hours time, and when we sit here tomorrow night, this time we'll know whether Donald Trump is president or Kamala Harris or if it's too close to call, with.

Speaker 4

A final countdown.

Speaker 3

Now on, we have big coverage on the show tonight, Miranda Devine joins us from New York. She slams the media coverage of Trump. She says it's even worse than at the last election. She also accuses the Democrats of putting Trump backers in jail. Plus concerns already about voter fraud in Pennsylvania. I'll speak about this with Annalise Nilsen in Washington, and we'll get final predictions from Brnwin, Bishop

Kayla Bond and more. Also on the show tonight, James Patterson will be on live as the Albanese government admits it is canceled a Palestinian visa over security concerns.

Speaker 4

Also coming up, the ABC.

Speaker 3

Finally admits it faked gunshots as it pursued. Heston Russell, a decorated former military commander, will speak with me about this later, but first tonight to a major story that the Albanezy government has given sixteen point eight million dollars in taxpayer funds for social cohesion to many groups that have promoted racism, anti Semitism and extremism. The Alberaneze government pretends to care about these issues, but it's simply lip service.

Speaker 4

It's a lie.

Speaker 3

In fact, it's quite the opposite. They're actually financially supporting groups that are peddling racism, conspiracy theories, are promoting extremism. This finding was meant to be for combating racism, Islamophobia, misinformation and disinformation sixteen million dollars. Yet one of the groups that's received funding from the Albanese government is the Lebanese Muslim Association.

Speaker 4

Home Affairs gave this.

Speaker 3

Group one point sixty five million dollars in March this year for supposedly their work promoting social cohesion one point six million dollars.

Speaker 4

This is the group that.

Speaker 3

On October eighth last year, so that Israel did not have the right to defend itself just hours after the terror attacks, when entire families were slaughtered in their beds and hundreds were kidnapped.

Speaker 4

Not one word of sorrow for.

Speaker 3

All the innocent people killed that day or the day before. Just two days earlier, Albanezi and Tony Burke had met with the group, as you can see in this picture here, and this Muslim group also joined with his book Career to hold a rally on the one year anniversary of the October seven attacks. Well, here was James Patterson in Satured Estimates, asking why this group deserves one point six million dollars in our taxpayer funds.

Speaker 5

This is, of course a rally on the anniversary of the largest loss of Jewish life since the Holocaust, which the Prime Minister himself said shouldn't proceed. So again is the Lebanese Muslim Association who's involved in promoting events like this and appropriate recipient of a grant like that.

Speaker 3

But there was no apology for this funding, just excuses from Labor Minister Murray wat We'll take one.

Speaker 6

Notice those details, but I'd remind you that on numerous occasions the Prime Minister and Minister Burke and other member of our government have contempt condemned a range of hateful remarks made by a range of people concerning what's happening.

Speaker 3

In the Middle East, and the Albaneze government gave another group called Palestinian Christians in Australia more than half a million dollars in September this year, and here's Tony Burke meeting with the group back in December. But instead of promoting social cohesion, one official from the group has posted anti submitted conspiracies that the wall was never about her muss it was all about gas reserves.

Speaker 4

What rubbish.

Speaker 3

And a member of the group also shared a hateful offensive post claiming that Zionism is a continuation of Nazism and that the Palestinians are the final victims of a holocaust. Well, James Patterson provided further evidence about this group that's received half a million dollars in taxpayer funds in senate estimates.

Speaker 5

The treasurer of this organization posted it on Instagram. I can't prepat these words on handside because it would be unparliamentary. But she uses expletives about Israel. She said it's almost over for you roll. The whole world knows, they know your monsters, and that's putting it likely.

Speaker 4

F Israel. It's almost over for you.

Speaker 3

This doesn't sound like a group that should be receiving taxpay of funds for social cohesion.

Speaker 4

James Patterson went on.

Speaker 5

This treasurer of this association also posted the ALKACM logo targeting similar the inverted red triangle, along with the captions you poked, you pushed, you produdgt, you provoked, you played victim, you deserve to pay, You parasitic pariah, pretty clearly endorsing violence and terrorism against star of Israel. Is that an appropriate thing to post?

Speaker 3

Same answer as before, and as you saw their Labor Senator Murray what was on his phone messaging, playing, doing something with his phone. He was barely listening. He didn't bother to answer the question. He just said, same answer as before. Well, here's that post that James Patterson just spoke about, and you can clearly see the red inverted triangle which symbolizes from us with the words and they might be a bit small for you, but the words say you play victim, you deserve to pay. And as

you saw, and let's play that again. When Labor Minister Murray, what was asked about this? He just sat looking at his phone doesn't murray, what care that taxpayer funds are going to organizations where some senior officials promote extremism and racism when those funds are meant to be for helping social cohesion in Australia. I mean, it's utterly absurd, It makes no sense. And there are many, many more examples, like the Albaneze government giving a group called Sydney Community

Connect Ink one hundred and ten thousand dollars. That's despite the fact it had promoted a fundraising event with none other than Shaike Ibraham Dudoun, who, as you just saw.

Speaker 4

Said this.

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That's a day of courage.

Speaker 3

And another speaker that Sydney Community connect promoted was Ahmed Bassal, who has posted conspiracies about Jews on his social media. He claimed that they run the Biden administration. Jews make up less than two percent of the population of your country, but they hold every senior level cabinet position in the Biden administration except Secretary of Defense. Well again, James Patterson quite rightly interrogated the government officials about this.

Speaker 5

Has some comments alongside that about how terrible it is that Jewish Zionists have taken over the US governments. Is that an appropriate person to receiving a social cohesion grant.

Speaker 8

So, Senator, what we are, what we were looking for, was organizations with track records of supporting their community, those with whom we have worked. We will take on notice the issues that you're raising today and come back to with more detail on due diligence.

Speaker 4

And that's Stephanie Foster. By the way.

Speaker 3

The Albanezi government appointed her as Home Affairs Secretary after sacking Mike Pizzulo, and she's the same official who took down the Australian flags from the website in what amounts to a clear case of council culture. And all this money, by the way, the sixteen million dollars for social cohesion was rushed out the door, as Stephanie Foster herself admitted.

Speaker 8

And we were trying to operate pretty quickly, just money out.

Speaker 3

James Patterson spent twenty one minutes grilling the officials on this topic, and the entire time he was given bureaucratic, nonsensical non answers. None of those present could give any explanation for why sixteen point eight million dollars in taxpayer funds were given to groups that promoted extremism and anti semitism.

Speaker 5

This is a fairly important question because a part of the rationale for some of this funding was the promotion of social cohesion, and it would be deeply ironic if taxpayers money went instead to groups who are undermining social cohesion, rather than promoting social cohesions. I'd like to know what due diligence the department or the government did to make sure that that wasn't the case, that no taxpayers money

went to organizations promoting disharmony or extremism. We can take you're not able to tell me about those processes now.

Speaker 9

I think mischanting. You said you take it on notice center.

Speaker 3

So how and why these groups were given millions of dollars in funding, Well, no one can say, Labor minister Murray, what looks down at his phone? The officials can't answer, even though the Home Affairs Secretary is sitting right there. And by the way, there was no competitive tender for

these grants, no independent process. The groups were hand picked for the millions of dollars in funding they received by the Albanzi government ministers, and some of them were even approached and invited to apply by labor ministers now, either the Home Affairs Department and the Albanzi government are so incompetent that they didn't do any proper checks before handing out cash. Cash that's meant to fix social cohesion and to combat misinformation, yet it was given to groups that

promote her Mausk symbols and global conspiracies. So either they're deeply incompetent, or they know but simply don't care that they're funding groups that fuel conspiracies and extremism.

Speaker 4

It's one or the other.

Speaker 3

Incompetence or they're happy to perpetuate racism with taxpayer funds. Maybe they can take that question on Notice two and let's bring in shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson right now, James, it goes without saying that you are single handedly holding much of the Albanesi government to account. You've done a sensational job on many topics over the past two days.

On this issue, do you think this is just utter disregard for the rise in extremism in social cohesion that's eroding on our streets.

Speaker 4

Or do you think this is a case of incompetence.

Speaker 5

Sharry, the Labor Party under Anthony Alberanezi has handed nearly tens of millions of dollars to extrememists, to hate preachers, to anti Israel radicals and to anti Semites.

Speaker 1

That can't be by accident.

Speaker 5

It is either through complete ill care for the spending of taxpayer money and no concern for the implications for our country, or it is a calculated attempt. I think that what the root of this problem is that the Lay Party is far more concerned about their own political interest than the national interest, because in addition to handing out this taxpayer money for social cohesion to extremists, they also happen to hand them out to organizations.

Speaker 1

In labor seats.

Speaker 5

In fact, seventy eight percent of the grants given out so far have been to labor seats. All of those seats are either under siege by the Greens all the Muslim Votes Matter movement. So it seems like their political interest to taking precedency over the national interest, and unfortunately that's what we've come to expect from Labour under Antthon Galbanese, and particularly in this portfolio under Tony Burke.

Speaker 4

It is so deeply disappointing.

Speaker 3

James Patterson, we've also seen the admission that one Palestinian who was given a VS fast tracked visa by the Albanesi government has now been moved to unshold detention. Their visa has been revoked, we're told on character grounds, but no proper explanation about why this person was given a visa in the first place and why it's now been canceled.

Speaker 1

You're right, Charry.

Speaker 5

For months now, the government has been assuring us that all the necessary checks have taken place, that there should be no concerns about any of the three thousand tourist visas handed out to Gaza residents who were seeking to come to this country, and that there was nothing to fear. But they've now been forced to admit that one person on shore has had their visa canceled on character grounds.

And what that means is that person was granted a visa, has come to our country and either they've gone on to do something horrific in our community or a new piece of information has come to light about something that they've done in their past. Now, either way, it's not good for the Albanezi government because they assured us that all the necessary checks took place, that they weren't being reckless,

that they didn't take any risks. But when you do as they did in this instance, refer two six hundred visas from Gaza to Asio on a single day and ask them to vet them, including after many of them had already been issued and many of them had already traveled to Australia, it is bound to end into years.

Speaker 1

And I fear that's what's happened to you.

Speaker 4

Now.

Speaker 3

I understand that you've also raised concerns that the Home Affairs Minister could be driving a vehicle, that it's potentially the case that it could have a listening device. Inate can you tell us what your concerns are and why you have made these comments.

Speaker 5

So? Yesterday and Senator Estimate shari I asked the Department of Home Affairs to explain the potential national and cybersecurity risks from internet connected electric vehicles made in China, and they stepped through some of the risks. They said it was possible for these evs to listen to the occupants while they're in the car. They said it was possible for these evs to track the movements of that person

as they drive through our cities and our states. They said that it was possible for the external cameras on these vehicles to be recording other people and for that to be transmitted back to the owners. And they also said that if you plugged in an external device into that car, like a mobile phone, you could be compromising that device. I then asked them whether or not that briefed the Minister for Home Affairs on this issue.

Speaker 1

They said that briefed him multiple times.

Speaker 5

And then I asked them why it was the fact that Tony Burke is driving an Internet connected smart EV vehicle and they looked at their shoes, they looked at their floor, at the floor, they looked at the roof to avoid answering the question, but eventually had to admit, yes, our Minister for Home Affairs and Cybersecurity is driving around in a car that is a potential listing device for the Chinese Communist Party.

Speaker 3

Look unbelievable admissions that you've managed to extract and multiple issues at Senate Estimates this week. James Patterson, thank you for your time and let's bringing now Sky News host Kayla Bonden from a Speaker of the House Brunwin Bishop terrific to see both of you on the well the eve or the.

Speaker 4

Start of this US election.

Speaker 3

Really, Look, we have seen criticism of Donald Trump for being off message in the final critical week of the campaign, but he's told a journalist that apparently this is a deliberate strategy, and he calls it the weave. Have a look, he is.

Speaker 10

Out there, you know, talking about putting guns in Liz Cheney's face, the Madison Square Garden rally, all that that had and I said that there are that he's not disciplined, he doesn't have a message, and he.

Speaker 1

Was upset with that.

Speaker 10

He said the weave, that's what he calls it when he bounces around. Is why he got elected president.

Speaker 3

So Romin this is interesting because you know, Trump has said some utterly, you know, indefensible things in the past few days, but he claims.

Speaker 4

It's a strategy that works. As we just heard there. What do you think.

Speaker 11

I don't really think many of them metter very much. But I do think what meted was allowing that comedian to Israelly who said that Puerto Rican's the Puerto Rico was garbage because that got a bad bunny who has forty five million followers. Tremendously popular Puerto Rican singer songwriter well regarded influencing three hundred thousand Puerto Rican voters in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 9

That matters.

Speaker 11

As for the rest of it, I think we've become used to hearing the different ways that Donald Trump speaks. We've been listening to it since twenty twenty two in this last iteration, or even before, of course, well even before he's been at it since twenty twenty two in this iteration. So I think a lot of people have factored it in. I think that people are not influenced by it particularly, but I think they are influenced by the question he asks, are you better off now than you were four years ago?

Speaker 4

That is right on message?

Speaker 11

I mean, and if I can just add immigration, right on message one percent.

Speaker 3

But I think that was you know, that journalist's point that he should have been sticking to his core messages. But we've seen this scattered approach in the Republican campaign. I mean, Caleb, we even saw Bizarly Tucker Carlson say that blame abortions for hurricanes. I mean, they should all of the key Republican figures who have a big following should be saying sensible things are on message and not these wacky things like blaming abortion for hurricanes.

Speaker 12

Well, yes, I mean that is patently bizarre, right what Trump is doing now. Look, the reality is there's no one sitting at home in America right now. I mean, I know it's the middle of the night, but there's no one sitting at home in America going, Am I going to vote for Trump or Harris? If you're voting on a policy point of view, or you're just in team Red or team Blue, you've already decided that you're going to vote and who you're going to vote for.

You've got a cohort of people who don't know whether they're going to vote or not. You're not going to win them over on policy because they've had a long time to work out what the candidate's policies are. The game that Trump is playing now is to get those who are left behind, or those who are not necessarily going to go out and vote, to go and vote. He can't appeal to them on policy. He appeals to them by being Donald Trump and saying, look, come on,

you've got to come out and vote. He's being an entertainer. That's what he's doing now, because that's the last ditch effort to get extra votes in that ballot box because talking policy now ain't going to.

Speaker 3

Change it because it cuts through the more outrageous the more his comments get played. Want to get final predictions from both of you. Bronwin, what do you think? How is this election going to go?

Speaker 2

I think Trump will win.

Speaker 11

And I think I don't think it'll take forever to find out either.

Speaker 4

What do you think, Hayla yep?

Speaker 12

I think it'll be Trump. Look as to whether we know tomorrow and night are in the next few days, who knows, But I suspect there is still a strong, silent Trump vote out there that we haven't seen much in the polling, and that he will do better than the polls have told us.

Speaker 11

Yeah, I don't know whether what factoring in.

Speaker 9

None of us know.

Speaker 11

We're told this still on a knife edge because people will repeat it at nitem, but we don't know how much those polls have actually been used as campaigning tools because many of them belong and are affiliated to political movements. So I think there are I think it's been dishonest a lot of those polls, and I think the shy voter is still a factor.

Speaker 3

I actually speak about that phenomenon, the shy voter with Miranda Devine a bit later, and she says it's now the frightened Trump voter.

Speaker 4

As opposed to the shy voter.

Speaker 3

I want to ask you both about domestic politics now. It has actually been a full week since the Prime Minister Anthony Alberezi had a press conference. Now the opposition isn't going hard in question time on the Quantus upgrades scandal because they've had a few issues of their own. But clearly he's still worried about it. Otherwise he would be fronting the media. What do you think, Brnwin, Well, he's in a dilemma, isn't he dead? He spun his

boy from Struggle Street done good. I understand what the ordinary people are going through. And then he's cozied up with Alan Joyce and we've had the upgrades, and we've had the support for the Yes case.

Speaker 11

We've bought the four point three million dollar house, which tells a lot of people you've lost touch.

Speaker 4

You may have started off.

Speaker 11

Here and this was your story, but you have now moved away from us. And I think that's going to be very difficult for him to shift, because that is something that mister Dutton can really hone in on. It's a message that will resonate with a lot of people who are working hard, not being able to pay their mortgage.

Speaker 9

And then we've got the.

Speaker 11

Snake charmer telling us it's all wonderful, really, it's all fixed, it's all going to be roses on the way ahead when they know it's not for them. So that's the biggest dilemma I think they've got with that problem, the fact Transport Minister he's seems to have perhaps been in breach of the Ministerial Code and the Qatar decision thrown in for good measure.

Speaker 3

A lot of questions still on the guitar decision and whether he spoke to anyone.

Speaker 4

In Quantus or not. Caleb.

Speaker 3

I think Albertiz is messaging that we've heard this week that the worst of the cost of living crisis is behind. Australia is incredibly dangerous. People see him the cliff Top mansion, they hear about the upgrades, they hear him saying everyone's doing fine, when the reality isn't the case, as we heard from the IRBA governor today.

Speaker 12

I mean, he can spin it any way he wants, but has anyone seen their power bill go down in the last month. Has anyone seen their grocery bill go down in the last month. Has anyone seen their petrol

bill go down in the last month? If you look at the markers, actually petrel has been a little lower recently, but still if you go and fill up today, it'll be two dollars and say since But if you look at the markers for inflation, as in, if you break it down to the products that have been going up and down, it is the essentials that have continued to increase. Other parts of the economy have subtracted, but the essentials have not. And that's what the cost of living crisis

is about. That's what people are paying for every day until there is an interest rate cut, which of course we learned today there's not going to be one any.

Speaker 4

Time, probably not going to even happen before until we're on the next right election.

Speaker 12

He can spin it however he wants, but people won't.

Speaker 11

Buch Right, We've got to go think that cut's going to help him all that much.

Speaker 3

I just don't think there will be one before the next election. Browan Bishop Kaylebond. We'll see you, of course at ten o'clock.

Speaker 4

Pleasure now, still to.

Speaker 3

Calm the ABC finally admits that a doctored video to accuse Heston Russell of war crimes. Well, a decorated military commander will be on the show. Plus, Morada Devine joins me from New York, saying the media treatment of Trump has been even harsher than at the last election when they buried the Hunter laptop story. That's after this quick break, Welcome back. Well, the the US election is mere hours away.

New York Post and Daily Telegraph columnist Miranda Devine joined me a little earlier to discuss the blatant media bias against Trump, her prediction for the outcome, and how the result will impact us here in Australia. Have a look, Miranda Devine, so great to see you again. Congratulations on your new book. And you've, of course had Steve Bannon there.

He was just released from prison. We keep hearing this line from Kamala Harris that Trump is going to put his political enemies in prison, but really we've seen the precise opposite. We've seen the jailing of key Trump figures. Isn't this subverting democracy in the same way that the Democrats accused Trump of doing?

Speaker 4

On January the sixth, one hundred percent.

Speaker 13

And in fact, what you've heard from the Democrats, and they're very successfully cemented this narrative around the world and in half of America, is that it's actually the.

Speaker 9

Republicans and Trump who is.

Speaker 13

An authoritarian who's going to throw his political opponents in jail and use the military to try and keep power. What you're actually seeing is that there are Trump advisors who've gone to jail. Steve Batten, you just mentioned, he spent four months in jail in a federal jail, which is not a nice place to be, for defying a subpoena by Nancy Pelosi, the most vindictive and probably powerful Democrat of the last decade.

Speaker 9

She was Speaker of the House, and she set.

Speaker 13

Up this bogus January sixth committee which had, you know, the only Republicans on it were Trump deranged Republicans like Liz Cheney, the daughter of Dick Cheney, the Iraq War warmonger.

Speaker 2

So that was a real.

Speaker 13

Star chamber, and Steve Bannon got legal advice saying that he didn't have to go and give evidence to this committee because it was not properly constituted, because it didn't have the right amount of Republicans and Democrats. His legal advice, I guess didn't stand up in a court of law, because he was then charged with contempt of Congress and

sent to jail. There are other Trump staffers and Trump supporters who've been sent to jail or just as Donald Trump has been subjected to law fair from various Democrat jurisdictions around the country, including federally and in New York, his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani is also been bankrupted, sued, you know, disbarred, hauled over the coals.

Speaker 9

And this is all just seems.

Speaker 13

To be retribution against anybody who supports Donald Trump.

Speaker 4

Miranda.

Speaker 3

At the last presidential election, your Hunter Biden laptop scoop was buried by the mainstream media. This time around, do you think the media has been any fairer?

Speaker 9

Actually, it's been worse.

Speaker 13

I mean, there hasn't been as egregious and obvious an incident as the censorship of the New York Post and our Hunter Biden laptop stories. But every day you're seeing another sort of sign of injustice and partiality.

Speaker 9

From sort of big media.

Speaker 13

Just the other night we had on Saturday Night Live, you had Kamala Harris appeared very soft sort of performance, and there were all sorts of other sort of pro Democrat, pro Kamela bits and pieces in that show.

Speaker 9

It might have been just a full hour ad for her.

Speaker 13

And there was no reciprocal invitation to Donald Trump. And so the Federal Election Commission that's against.

Speaker 9

Their law, their rules.

Speaker 13

There has to be equal time this close to an election, and so they had to give Donald Trump equal time. And he chose the Sunday night football which is probably more viewed, and he got a free ad on the football.

Speaker 3

Look, we're now hours away from Americans voting. The polls are very close. The reports are that the race is deadlocked, although Trump does appear to be slightly ahead in the seven battleground states. Miranda, how are you reading this crucial contest.

Speaker 13

Look, my gut tells me that Donald Trump will win. But I've been wrong before. I was wrong in twenty twenty. Look, it's a very difficult thing to gauge. What I will say is that Pennsylvania is probably the most crucial state.

Speaker 9

It has nineteen electoral.

Speaker 13

Votes, the most of all those other battleground states. And so you know, the adage is that if Donald Trump wins Pennsylvania, he wins.

Speaker 9

And so I've been.

Speaker 13

To Pennsylvania a couple of times during the campaign and quite recently, and there really was a distinct pro Trump atmosphere in Well. For instance, I went to a penn State game and a lot of young students gen z is I guess women, young women. They were very keen to wear MAGA hats and to talk about how they were voting, and they'd registered, et.

Speaker 9

Cetera, and they're going to vote for Donald Trump.

Speaker 13

So and then you know, even in Pittsburgh, which was a sort of a more difficult, more Democrat, went went heavily for Biden. They I talked to some people there and they were quite positive. They said, people Trump supporters are more inclined to put their signs out this time than they did last time. I don't know what that means really. So Pennsylvania I think is looking quite good. It's neck and neck in the polls, but honestly, who knows.

I think Trump is in a better shape than he was in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty in terms of the national poll, which doesn't really matter, but it is an indication of how well he'll do in the battleground states.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I think that's the critical point, isn't it. People voting for Kamala it will be mostly an anti Trump vote because she hasn't actually articulated any of her policy positions in a clear way, and she's avoided so much scrutiny.

Speaker 4

But Maradija's finally.

Speaker 3

My feeling is that this is one of the most critical elections in recent American history, with so much at stake on a global level, the rise of our enemies. They're now working together. It really matters now who the leader of the free world is, doesn't it?

Speaker 9

Absolutely?

Speaker 13

And I think what we've seen in the Biden years is just foreign policy blunder after blunder.

Speaker 9

It's been a disaster.

Speaker 13

Really started early on in his administration with the Bungled withdrawal from Afghanistan, and it's continued on like that, their sort of foked tongue attitude towards Israel, the Ukraine War, which I think Trump's quite right.

Speaker 9

When he says it never would have happened under him.

Speaker 13

You just look at Donald Trump, who is uncontrollable and therefore regarded by the Blob, which is the sort of Kabbal of the Cia, the Pentagon, the State Department, The Blob is the name that was given by the Obama people, But they have a pretty malign and opaque foreign policy agenda, which the Trump just ignored, and he just treated foreign policy like a property developer from New York and just on first principles and using common sense and logic.

Speaker 9

And so under him, Iran was on its knees. It was broke.

Speaker 13

It was unable to fund proxies to attack Israel as they did last October seven. Putin was in his box. He didn't invade any of his neighbors like he did under Biden and under Barack Obama, both of whom were puppets of the Blob, and Isis, for instance, was vanquished North Korea. Barack Obama told Donald Trump at the beginning of his administration that the biggest threat the world faced and that he would have to deal with was North Korea setting off all these nuclear tests. And Donald Trump

was mocked mercilessly for what he did. But his bromance with Kim Jong wun and calling him Little Rocketman and so on, and it was unorthodox, but it worked. He put him in his box, and we had the Abraham Accords, which gave the promise of peace in the Middle East. It was a great success Donald Trump's foreign policy as well as his domestic economic policy.

Speaker 9

And now I think it's a really clear choice.

Speaker 13

And for Australians looking at America, I think that they should view a Trump presidency as a positive for Australia and for Australia's security.

Speaker 3

Miranda Devine, terrific to see you as always, Thanks so much. All right, coming up after the break, Why the ABC has been dragged to kicking and screaming into an apology over doctoring a video in reports accusing Heston Russell of war crimes, Plus concerns Albanezi will keep rates higher for longer with his cash splash design to win the election.

Speaker 4

That's after this break. Welcome back.

Speaker 3

Well, the ABC has today been forced into a humiliating apology after finally admitting that it edited fake gunshots into video footage, and it did this in reports that wrongly accused Heston Russell.

Speaker 4

Of war crimes.

Speaker 3

We've been covering this heavily on my show and today here was the ABC's director of News, Justin Stevens insenate estimates.

Speaker 14

We sincerely regret and apologize those editing errors in the video clips, including two members of the second Commando Regiment. And that's why we removed the video when it was brought to our attension.

Speaker 3

And you'll remember that last time the ABC officials said they weren't apologizing to Heston Russell despite losing the defamation case against him.

Speaker 4

It's just so appalling.

Speaker 3

Let's bring in now Sky News contributor Gary Hargrave and former RSL New South Wales president James Brown.

Speaker 4

Welcome to you both. Gary.

Speaker 3

This is one of the most egregious cases of journalism, of doctoring a video footage in order to wrongly accuse someone of war crimes.

Speaker 4

I mean, this is the most grubby journalism.

Speaker 3

And yet the ABC have behaved appallingly throughout.

Speaker 15

Yeah, and they say there's nothing to see here. They won't name who edited the whole thing. They said it was unintentional, it was accidental. I mean, you know, the dog ate their homework. This is not good enough. They cannot, for the moment, for even a moment, pretend that they are impartial. The idea of actually throwing a bit more lard on the fire while they're cooking the sausage to make it sizzle more to sell the story is appalling stuff and it really isn't the way the ABC was.

I worked there in nineteen eighty seven, a long time ago. It was a younger bloke. My hair was very brown. But you know, let's face it, you just don't do that stuff. You've got to respect your viewers better than that. You just can't make stuff up, Shari.

Speaker 4

That's the problem, James.

Speaker 3

We know that veteran suicide has been a really sad, tragic issue.

Speaker 4

We just had the Royal Commission and.

Speaker 3

We've seen that veterans say it's this type of pursuit by the ME that has contributed to mental illness.

Speaker 16

You would think the National Broadcaster would set the bar extraordinarily high before it points at someone who's put their life on the line for the country on multiple occasions and accuses.

Speaker 1

Them of being involved in a murder.

Speaker 16

They didn't do that here, and apology has been far too long in the coming.

Speaker 1

They've dug in.

Speaker 16

They're protecting their own they're protecting a journalist who was trying to sell a book on this at the same time and had an interest in.

Speaker 1

Sexing the story up. They've done the wrong thing by Heston Russell, and they really need to apologize to them.

Speaker 3

Yeah, one hundred percent, and that apology came far too late. Now the IBA has left interest rates on holds in its cup day meeting today the cash rate remains at four point three five percent and it's going to likely stay this way until next year.

Speaker 4

Here was Governor Michelle Bullock today.

Speaker 17

Public demand is offsetting a lot of weakness in the private sectorm side. So we still, with those circumstances, have inflation coming back to target in a reasonable way. My reading when I speak privately to the Treasurer and when I hear him speak on television and radio, is that he's fully aware of the inflationary implications of his own policies.

Speaker 3

Well, he may be aware, but is the Prime Minister. Because we saw Gary that that Alban Eazy just announced on Sunday sixteen billion dollar pledge to help, you know, basically buy young votes from the Greens. So do you think the Prime Minister actually gets the message that he's got to stop spending in order to bring down inflation, in order to cut interest rates.

Speaker 15

No, and he doesn't care. That's the problem.

Speaker 1

The premise has lost complete touch with the reality.

Speaker 15

Not that I think it was awfully close to the economic reality of this, that they're feeding inflation with every announcement they make. And in fact, I think the cruel trick on a lot of university students with the hexsteat is that they're actually saying to them the threshold's gone up, so you don't have to pay off your HEX debt until you hit over sixty something sixty two thousand dollars.

I mean that in itself is going to drive the problem Shari until I actually have say, an interest holiday on the debt.

Speaker 1

Young people who want.

Speaker 15

To get ahead, get the debt out of their their personal economic circumstance, maybe borrow money at a later stage for a house. They're not going to be able to do that, so they're going to have a moratorium on the interest that's being charged. But right now the government doesn't care. They just want to win the election. They don't care how they wrecked the economy in the process.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's my concern, James, that we're going to be seeing over the next few months until the federal election, the Prime Minister making a lot of spending promises, throwing a lot of cash around because you know, he just doesn't he's putting politics ahead of it over the need to bring down rates and bring down inflation.

Speaker 16

The Prime Minister's got the cash gun funded by the taxpayer, locked and loaded and ready to spray.

Speaker 1

I mean we've seen it in a lot of areas.

Speaker 16

We saw that decision on Sunday, which really just moves that sixteen billion dollar debt to other tax payer. On Monday morning, we found out that the government doesn't have seven billion dollars it needs to pay for military communications satellites. Ed Hughesick goes to lunch with a quantum computer company in the United States. The taxpayer comes away with a

billion dollar bill. The National Reconstruction Fund is pumping hundreds of millions and billions of dollars into futuristic industries like forestry. This is labor giving money to the people that keep it in power. The IMF, the World Bank have all said that inflation rates in Australia are far too high. Michelle Bullock has come as close to saying that the government is out of control on spending as she can without losing her job.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's quite extraordinary comments today. I mean she was being careful. Yeah, Gary, do you want to add something there?

Speaker 15

Just simply that the narrative from the Reserve Bank included the idea that they might not get to lower interest rates till May next year, which is when the elections due. So you know, I think they're actually saying that if you don't run the election, if you run the election early, there's no interest rate reduction. So I thought that was also an interesting little sidebar comment from Michelle. But and she has she's got as far as she can go to keep the gig.

Speaker 1

She's got to sort of pull it back a bit.

Speaker 15

But I think we got the messies Will.

Speaker 3

Yeah, she's been surprisingly strong, there's no question about that. Now, as we've been speaking about us heads to the polls in the next few hours, we're told, according to the polling.

Speaker 4

The races neck and neck.

Speaker 3

Now we've seen the former Prime Minister Tony Abbott come out and say that there's no need for Australia to worry about a Trump presidency. Abbott says he was a good president for Australia last time and there's no reason to think he wouldn't be again.

Speaker 4

James.

Speaker 3

We are seeing the Albanezy government trying to make in roads. We've seen Penny Wong meeting with Mike Pompeo. But it would definitely be easier for them if it's a Kamala Harris presidency.

Speaker 1

No question, no question.

Speaker 16

They would have been to the same camps and the same conferences with many of the people that would end up.

Speaker 1

In a Harris administration.

Speaker 16

I mean President Trump, some of the people who's likely to appoint to senior roles in the Pentagon and the State Department, people that I know personally, who I think would have the best interest of Australia at heart after they do their duty to America, and who understand the relationship.

Speaker 4

Well, you've worked closely in US politics.

Speaker 1

I have.

Speaker 16

Look, I've met President Trump. I've met a number of the people around him. I know how they think. We don't have to be terrified about the kind of administration that they would run.

Speaker 1

It would be attuned to Australia's interests.

Speaker 16

The President understands the importance of Australia internationally. I think there's only really one area where we would see some potential friction, and that's on Ukraine and Russia.

Speaker 1

But largely the President would be supportive of what we're trying to do in our part of the world.

Speaker 3

Yeah, all right, Gary Hargrave James Brown. Great to see you both tonight, Thank you very much for your insights, and then still to come on the show. As I said, just hours away from the polls, there are already fraud claims in a critical battleground state. Plus Nancy Pelosi hits out at Trump's mental acuity after ignoring Biden's problems for years. I'm going to get the latest from Washington with Annalise

Nielsen after the break. All right, well, before we wrap up the show tonight, let's get a final check in on the ground in the US with our Washington correspondent Annalise Nilsen. I spoke to her a little earlier about Nancy Pelosi's final insult, fraudulent voter registrations, and Kamala Harris's star studded lineup here she is Analie Nielsen.

Speaker 4

Thank you so much for your time.

Speaker 3

Nancy Pelosi has had a final jab at Donald Trump, saying that his brain is deteriorating. Do these kind of insults work in the final days of the campaign.

Speaker 7

Well, look, it works for the Democrat base. But this isn't just Nancy Pelosi. This has been a lot of Democrats using this attack line, And the reason I think it's so significant is they've never acknowledged there's any issue with Joe Biden. Even when he stepped side, it was for the good of the party, it was that he was polling better. They've never acknowledged that there's an issue there,

and they still haven't. He's still the president of the United States, and so I think it's a misfire in that Americans have really lost trust and how that issue has been covered, That the media didn't cover that he was having issues as he sought to run again, and the fact Kamala Harris has only been in this race for a few months.

Speaker 2

Because of that.

Speaker 7

So I think it is an alarming thing that they're focusing on, and I think it's worth calling out as we come into these final days of the election that they have been using this attack line to say that they think Donald Trump's in cognitive decline. Whatever you think of the guy, if you think he's nuts when you look at him.

Speaker 2

He can get up there for hours.

Speaker 7

He does weave, as he calls it, he goes off on tangents, But it is not the same kind of thing that we're seeing with Joe Biden, where he's looking like he's confused, he has.

Speaker 2

Issues walking and freezes.

Speaker 7

It is a completely different thing, and Somocrats to now be pulling this out, I think is worth paying attention to.

Speaker 3

Look, there's an issue in Pennsylvania where there are concerns about fraudulent voter registrations and ballot applications. How concerning is this and how will it be dealt with?

Speaker 7

So, look, this is one of the really interesting challenges of this election as they've been putting more effort into getting people to cast.

Speaker 2

Ballots early and by mail.

Speaker 7

One of the things that they do in some states, and remember in the US, election rules are set in each state differently. They're administered by the state, the Secretary of States and the local counties. And so what they do is they hand out these forms for voter registration. Anyone can fill them out and put them in.

Speaker 2

It doesn't necessarily mean you have a balance.

Speaker 7

So what they found in Lancaster County was twenty five hundred were flagged for potential fraudulent applications to get a ballot. So that doesn't mean that there's a ballot that's been put in the box, that there's an issue, but it does mean that someone was trying to get their hands on fake ones. So they found that a certain percentage of these have been found to be fraudulent. They do have to go through them. Sometimes people just.

Speaker 2

Don't fill them out correctly.

Speaker 7

But this is the concern that this could be happening at county levels, and when we're talking about these election results being as tight as we anticipate them to with the polling as it is now, we could be talking about a state being decided by just a few thousand votes. It happened last election that key battleground states were decided by ten thousand votes, and so these issues can be consequential.

What we're seeing different this time is that the Republican Party especially has been very on the front foot about this. Laura Trump today has said that there are two hundred and thirty thousand poll watchers and poll workers on behalf of the Republican Party keeping an eye on how these ballots are cast, and that's just as important in America as who you're casting the ballot for.

Speaker 3

Annalise, We've seen a lot of celebrities come out for Kamala Harris, particularly in recent days.

Speaker 4

Does this resonate with American voters.

Speaker 7

Well, look, it does work with younger voters in particular.

Speaker 2

We know that they can be quite fickle.

Speaker 7

They can have a strong opinion but perhaps not end up casting a ballot at the end of the day in a country with votings not compulsory. But the key thing it does is get them unearned media. And so this is the concept where they get a celebrity out there and they get Good Morning America covering it the next morning is their lead instead of a policy announcement,

and that's still good for the campaign. They get social media traction, they get TikTok videos, and younger people especially become more engaged with it.

Speaker 2

And then the other thing it does is just kind of normalize it.

Speaker 7

If you're someone who's sitting on the fence and your favorite celebrities are all hanging out with Kamala Harris, you start to just become normalized to her presence. And especially important for someone who hasn't been on the campaign trail that long. A few months ago, she was still running to BVP, So I think it all helps her on that front in saying that not many people will ever say to you, oh, I wasn't going to vote for Kamala Harris, but then Taylor Swift told me too, so I did.

Speaker 2

But you never know.

Speaker 7

Some of those younger voters. She does have a pretty devoted following.

Speaker 4

And Alie, thank you so much for your time.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 3

You have to worry if there are voters who are taking voting advice from celebrities. But I suppose if there are sound young voters and they don't know which way they're going, then they might just follow Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4

On the other hand, you've got.

Speaker 3

Big figures like Elon Musk and Joe Rogan just today as well came out to.

Speaker 4

Endorse Donald Trump.

Speaker 3

Now, just before I go in around, you may have seen this news that a courageous female student has been detained after walking in the street in her underwear. Now, she was initially disciplined by the Morality police for not wearing a head covering and so in protest at around strict Islamic dress code, she's stripped down to her underwear. She was arrested and she's now reported to be in

a psychiatric ward. Now we see this constant obsession with ISA in the media and at university students, but you have to ask why they aren't protesting this shocking treatment of women in nations like Iran and likewise. You probably haven't heard that Benjamin Ettna who has offered millions of dollars to those who can safely release the hostages. And it's Amus who is killing off yet another ceasefire hostage deal. All right, make sure you tune in tomorrow night at

eight o'clock. We'll have the full details on the US election. Right now, here's Paul Murray.

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